Gallows + Brokencyde

[goldy]

In a recent interview with Gallows, their hate for bands like Brokencyde and Millionaires was revealed. We all know everybody hates them, but they pretty much poked at those bands throughout their whole set at Warped Tour in Toronto.

Are bands like Brokencyde that bad or are people not giving them a chance?

Check out interview HERE (http://blaremagazine.com/2009/07/15/interview-gallows).

[zonto]

Post the text? (Blocked at work)

[Klatzke]

In a recent interview with Gallows, their hate for bands like Brokencyde and Millionaires was revealed. We all know everybody hates them, but they pretty much poked at those bands throughout their whole set at Warped Tour in Toronto.

Are bands like Brokencyde that bad or are people not giving them a chance?

Check out interview HERE (http://blaremagazine.com/2009/07/15/interview-gallows).
Because they deserve it? Because they're terrible? Because they're a scourge on their "scene?" They're sexist, crude and pretty much talentless.

[weaz45]

How does it feel to be the British piece of the Vans Warped Tour flag?
It feels really good actually cause’ there’s like a few British bands doing the tour this year. But, I think we’re the stand out band because we’ve done the tour before. When we done it the first the time we made quite a big impact. We toured America a few times after and coming back this time, we’ve been billed one of the bigger bands on the tour. Its awesome you know, it’s an incredible thing for us and hopefully, we’re gonna capitalize off this Warped Tour to make a jump to doing bigger headliner shows in the future in the States and in Canada.


Did you guys ever see yourself playing the tour when you first started?
To be honest, when we started the band, I didn’t even ever see us releasing an album, you know. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine that I’d be doing Warped Tour even for the second time and being billed really high as one of the main bands. It’s an incredible thing. I’m stoked to be here, it’s awesome.

How have you coped with the non-stop touring?
It’s really, really f*cking difficult to be honest! The last time we’ve done it was really different to this time. The last time we’ve done the whole tour, we went through Phoenix and all that and the hot states it was difficult. This time, we played two shows in California and then we went straight into Phoenix and Texas. Our lead singer (Frank Carter) got heat stroke three days into the tour, and then like, I got really bad heat problems and we’ve all been really struggling with the heat. But now that we’re moving up our way up the east coast and into Canada, the temperature has dropped and its more like it is at home and we can play all day, everyday now. We’re in a good place right now, I just don’t want to go to Florida!


How have the crowds reacted to the new stuff so far?
It’s been really, really good actually. Like the first time we’ve done Warped Tour, we weren’t well know and we’d play to like 10-15 kids waiting at the stage who came to see the spectacle of the band. While this time, we got the new album and toured America a few times before and now we got a good following behind us. Like there’s now 200 or some kids that come to see us play and know the words to every song before we even play and at the end of the set, there could be anything up to 2,000 kids there. It’s been amazing from our perspective, like coming in from the last one into this one, we didn’t know how it was gonna’ be. But we’ve just been made to feel more like home which is incredible.

How did you guys come up with so much anger to make Grey Britain seem like the terrifying monster that it is?
We just went in the studio and that’s what happened. Like we’d been off the tour for quite a while, hadn’t done anything and then we went into the studio, started writing and then a few months later we nailed what we wanted to do and we went in to record. Garth Richardson (producer) helped us bring out the aggression into play and helped us bring out the tones we needed to make the record what it is. Like we traveled the world a lot and we’ve seen good places, we’ve seen bad places, we’ve seen good music and we’ve seen f*cking shit music. Going into the studio with this record, we wanted to write the best thing we could offer. That’s what happened, Grey Britain just came straight out.


What did you listen to while writing the record?
I listened to loads of Sigur Ros and Mogwai. To be honest I don’t really listen to a lot of heavy music. I don’t like heavy music anymore because I play it everyday and when we tour, we tour with really heavy bands and it just gives me a headache now. Like the last few albums I’ve bought are Beethoven and Johan Sebastian Bach. My music perspective has totally flipped on me. But I was also just given the new Vultures United album and the new Poison The Well album and those two albums are f*cking incredible.


Do you think Grey Britain is sort of the same person as Orchestra Of Wolves?
No it’s different because for the first album Frank wrote most of the lyrics, while on this one all of us came together. Like the second album I guess is the next step we could have made musically. This is the whole band coming together as one. You can tell there’s a whole progression through the music, structure-wise and songwriting-wise and then God knows what we’re going to do for the next one.

Why did you guys feel the need to explain what’s happening in the UK through music?
There’s a lot of music out nowadays and bands are put on a pedestal where if they got something to say, people will listen. The easiest way to get a message across is to be in a band; kids listen, adults listen, everyone listens. The reason we tried so hard with this is because there were no bands around from where we’re from that had anything important to say. Like look at the music industry now, 3OH!3 are #1 in the U.S. charts. Brokencyde, Millionaires….they’re not bands. That’s not music if you ask me. Look at Anti-Flag, they got a message, they’re trying to say something and they’re doing it really well. We’ve come out, we got a message and we’re saying how shit our country is and if we don’t do something soon, it’s just gonna get worse. We’re not trying to say to anyone “here’s a problem, try and fix it”. We’re saying “here’s a problem, figure the rest out on your own”. Being in a band, you should be trying to provoke a good message. People listen to what you got to say, why would you wanna’ f*ck it up? Like these bands are writing songs about…what are the lyrics? “Just got paid, lets get laid” and Brokencyde saying something about “making my pee pee go hard”. Jesus Christ dude, what the f*ck.


Have you guys started brewing up any ideas for the next record?
I’ve been writing loads myself but it won’t make it onto a Gallows record because it kind of sounds like Bright Eyes. My girlfriend and I are writing stuff at home, so me and her are gonna’ try and see what we can come up with. I don’t know what’s going to happen with the next Gallows record, like this one just came out two months ago. I’m hoping we can start writing on the road so once we’ve finished touring, we can go in, get it recorded and go straight back onto the road. Taking 14 months to record an album is way too long.


Now its been said you guys have two more albums left in you. Is this true?
I don’t know. We’ll keep putting music out as long as people want to hear it. We could put our next record out and no one will buy it and we could be like f*ck it, lets not do this anymore. But then it could go platinum and we could be doing it for the next 20 years. Gallows will keep playing as long as our bodies can survive the live show. Could be a week, could be ten years, it all depends. But for the time being, we’re not going anywhere.


What do you hope to say to the world before Gallows fades away?
We showed people that British punk rock is not just three chords like the Sex Pistols! Yeah, we just want to show people that there is good music coming out from around the world, you just gotta’ look real f*cking hard to find it

[TheFallOfMike]

I gave them a chance. Until I realised just how talentless and terrible their music was. They're widely hated for good reason.

[zonto]

haha nice! Thanks for pasting that!

[SickOfStars]

Just because he/they are in a band doesn't mean they can't express an opinion, and even though there's pretty clearly some contempt in there, it's from an issue-based stance and he's just saying that he'd rather have a message in his music than otherwise.

[tfar06]

hes completely right. i thought the same thing when millionaires played that "lets get laid just got paid" garbage.

[aoftbsten]

Because they deserve it? Because they're terrible? Because they're a scourge on their "scene?" They're sexist, crude and talentless.

fixed

[kevinjordan]

They're blowing up off of negative hype!

[goldy]

They're blowing up off of negative hype!

so how do we stop them!?

[kevinjordan]

so how do we stop them!?

It's already been said, but stop talking about them at all... even talking trash! I didn't know who they were until Geoff Rickley talked crap about them in an interview. If he wouldn't have said anything, I wouldn't have even given them that one play on their Myspace player!

[SSLYBY]

I love gallows. And this is a great interview.

[AndrewIcex]

Another thing about these bands.. I am beyond over it.

[SSLYBY]

These Crunk-core bands are no longer living off negative hype. Warped tour is a huge deal now. For some odd reason people love this crunk shit and don't expect it to fade.

[SSLYBY]

Another thing about these bands.. I am beyond over it.

Not everyone reads forums everyday, so of course you're going to hear it over and over again. The music is terrible.

[mht]

says the band who gets up on stage and says fuck mtv fuck popular bands fuck yeah DIY and then signs a six figure major label deal and a contract to put their songs on guitar hero commercially, that makes tons of sense...not.

[AndrewIcex]

Not everyone reads forums everyday, so of course you're going to hear it over and over again. The music is terrible.
I guess that is true, I still am sick of it.

[SSLYBY]

I guess that is true, I still am sick of it.

I mean people don't have to post everything, but since it's different bands that different people like, of course it's going to get posted.

[alert=danger]

haha now that Gallows are after them Brokencyde don't stand a chance.
Frank is fucking mental.
Glad bands like Gallows can make it today though.

[goldy]

It's already been said, but stop talking about them at all... even talking trash! I didn't know who they were until Geoff Rickley talked crap about them in an interview. If he wouldn't have said anything, I wouldn't have even given them that one play on their Myspace player!

what other musicians along with Geoff Rickley have shown hate for them? aside from the average hater lol

[UnderMyDreams]

They are the worst bands ever.

[IWasHerHorse]

what other musicians along with Geoff Rickley have shown hate for them? aside from the average hater lol

Dude from Bayside showed support on his blog for the guy from Senses Fail when he denounced Brokencyde; some other girl in a band recently wrote a blog about millionaires lip-syncing on Warped Tour. I'm sure there are many more I don't know about.

I've never listened to Gallows before, but this interview has swayed me to give them a listen.

[whataclush]

In a recent interview with Gallows, their hate for bands like Brokencyde and Millionaires was revealed. We all know everybody hates them, but they pretty much poked at those bands throughout their whole set at Warped Tour in Toronto.

Are bands like Brokencyde that bad or are people not giving them a chance?

Check out interview HERE (http://blaremagazine.com/2009/07/15/interview-gallows).

overused crunk beats + shit screaming + shitshitshit lyrics + AUTOTUNE = brokencyde. need i say more?

[AndrewIcex]

I mean people don't have to post everything, but since it's different bands that different people like, of course it's going to get posted.
Yeah, I know.. but we need to eventually put it to rest.

[Raarzipan]

Gallows are so good, at first I didn't care for them, now I just can't listen to them enough they are real music, raw and intense.

[The Raine]

what other musicians along with Geoff Rickley have shown hate for them? aside from the average hater lol

Senses Fail, Bayside, Silverstein, and a few others I'm probably forgetting.

[thesafeword]

Chugga chugga vs. date rape here, nobody wins.

[goldy]

Dude from Bayside showed support on his blog for the guy from Senses Fail when he denounced Brokencyde; some other girl in a band recently wrote a blog about millionaires lip-syncing on Warped Tour. I'm sure there are many more I don't know about.

I've never listened to Gallows before, but this interview has swayed me to give them a listen.

yeah i saw a video of Millionaires and it definitely looked like they were lip-synching. like why would you do that on Warped Tour??

[Raarzipan]

Ironically, the fattest of the 3 millionaires follows the gallows on twitter.

[caveBEAR]

N8F5YSA1Oz0

There you go. This is what is so bad about BrokeNCYDE. Just watch, listen, be repulsed.

Of course, if you watch this video and think 'Well, hey, those guys are really onto something, I like how they take two shitty genres of music and mash them together just like I imagine taking rotten apples and cat shit and mixing them would make a great desert', then there isn't much help for you.

I like how the still for the video has that tool choking some girl. It kinda sums up what BrokeNCYDE is about.

EDIT: Skip ahead to 1:50 for the 'lulz'. Seriously, what's up with the loser in the off-blue shirt and shorts?

[caveBEAR]

I think I'll take everyone on a journey through the lyrics of BrokeNCYDE's latest CD. The lyrics are in bold, my thoughts aren't.

I walk into the club looking kind of sexy now.
I see these shorties in the corner, they started making out.
They pull their panties down, they take their pants off.
Then they started getting freaky on the dance floor.
(This story about two girls getting naked in a club reminds me of that guy everyone knows. You know that guy. He's ugly, doesn't have many friends, but every day he's got a new story about how he hooked up with triplets or something. You nod, and say things like 'That's awesome, man', but in your head you know it never happened, and you just feel bad for him.)
Shake it mommy give it to me like you need some love.
I got some bottles in the caddy that we can open up.
Let's get drunk tonight, baby we don't have to fuck.
(Seems like he's trying to make himself feel better. Let the girl know you aren't just looking for sex before she can tell you you're not getting any.)
And bring your friend along, maybe we can have some fun.

Let's get freaky now, let's get fucking freaky now. [x4]
I got these bitches all tipsy trying to sex me.
(Did you watch the previous video? Who is trying to 'sex' these tools?)
I know they want it, alcoholics are some sex freaks.
This ex and chronic gots me wanting to get messy.
(Oh! There's our first drug reference. We have some weed and some ecstasy. Add that onto our alcohol and we have quite the party for BrokeNCYDE's target audience of 13 year olds.)
So let's get messy girls, come on let's go get messy girls.
Come on bitch, you know you want this.
(Come on bitch, you know you want this? Wow. Just wow.)
That hardcore shit will make you feel the toxic.
Fursachi, Rolex watches.
(I copy and pasted these lyrics. I think someone doesn't know what Versace is.)
Bently coups with the 20's droppin.
Convertible top, and the wheels spin.
I can taste that ice when my grill is in.
If you want me baby feel me in.
'cause I don't waste my time with lesbians.
(Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Wow.)

Let's get freaky now, let's get fucking freaky now. [x4]
(Yeah...that's x4. As in four times.)
Liar! [x8]
(Yeah...that's x8. As in eight times.)
Oh baby why did you have to lie to me.
I can't play no more games.
These thoughts are slowly controlling me.
You're turning off the flame.
(This is my favorite part of any BC-13 {did I not mention that? BC-13 is the abbreviation for BrokeNCYDE. Wonder where the 13 came from? So do I} song. I think the singer actually thinks he crafted some deep lyrics.)
So go baby go baby.
You don't want me.
So go baby go baby.
Come and get me.
So go baby go baby.
You don't want me.
So go baby go!
Come and get me.
Let's get freaky now, let's get fucking freaky now. [x4]
(And there you have it. Your soul is already dead, and we only have about 15 more songs to go.)

[caveBEAR]

Here's part 2. Keep in mind, I am copying and pasting these lyrics verbatim, so all the typos are direct from BC-13 fans. Enjoy.

Get crunk, skeet skeet
get crunk, skeet skeet,
(It's funny. Didn't awkward white suburban 'gangstas' kill both the terms 'get crunk' and 'skeet skeet' like 4 years ago?)
get crunk in the streets,
back it up like beep (x2)
(I think 'back it up like beep' is supposed to mean that beeping noise cars make when they back up, but I'm not sure.)

Oh yeah i got my hurrr did nicely
high top nike's
always in my white tee
(It's like white trash meets SUPERSTAR!)
oh god you know your girlfriend likes me
i'll wax that ass real fast like lightninggggg
(I think he's trying to confess he's a minuteman. One pump chump.)
yeahhhhhh, baby i'ma break your backbone
and after we have sex
you'll probably get a attached
girl pay me, i dont fuck for free
you know all of these scene bitches
wanna fuck with me
(The worst part...that entire verse is probably relatively true. Scene bitches probably do want to fuck these losers.)

lets get crunk baby girl go shake that thing (x3)
put your booty in the air like it ain't nothing

lets get crunk baby girl go shake that thing (x3)
put your booty in the air like it ain't nothing

Get crunk, skeet skeet
get crunk, skeet skeet,
get crunk in the streets,
back it up like beep (x2)

beats to make ya skeet
makin the ladies leak
and legs be wobblin weak
cause phatjs the freaka the week
orgasm spasm
(Who the fuck uses the word 'orgasm' in a rap song? Are you a gangsta or a gynecologist?)
makin her peak makin
her cream leavin the scene
addicted to what the dick did
sick kid
and it was fucking wicked
take a smoke break to get lifted
damn right i hit it
shortys been gifted by a
veterab crunk kid
(IQ...lowering...must...stop...read ing...)
lets get crunk baby girl go shake that thing (x3)
put your booty in the air like it ain't nothing

lets get crunk baby girl go shake that thing (x3)
put your booty in the air like it ain't nothing

Get crunk, skeet skeet
get crunk, skeet skeet,
get crunk in the streets,
back it up like beep (x2)
(Now that's a hell of a chorus!)

skeet skeet all up your in your face girl
(Wait? What's the average age of a BrokeNCYDE listener?)
now open your mouth and tell me how i taste girl
(Like 17?)
peaches and cream drippin down our waste (Ha ha ha ha! Waist?) girl
(16?)
now give it to me
i don't like fake girls
she'll be my fuck affairrrrr
(15?)
skeet skeet up in her hairrrrrr
(Excuse me, Mr. Se7en? Why don't you have a seat over there?)
babyyyy don't be so scaredddd
i got a 12 incherrrrr
(Ha ha ha ha ha...yeeeeeaah, so do I. :-|)

lets get crunk baby girl
go shake that thing
lets get crunk baby girl
go shake that thing

Instant classic!

[caveBEAR]

Fuck...the next song contains the lyrics;

'Shake it like chocolate milk'

I honestly can't do it anymore. I haven't got the brain cells to spare. I need a break.

[TheFallOfMike]

Fuck...the next song contains the lyrics;

'Shake it like chocolate milk'

I honestly can't do it anymore. I haven't got the brain cells to spare. I need a break.

I know how you feel. Not only are their lyrics juvenile and borderline retarded (putting it nicely), but their screams also sound like babies being fed through a malfunctioning waste disposal. I seriously don't know how their fans, or the record labels can tolerate this crap. Even amidst all of the terrible reviews, outrage from people who like real music and real bands speaking out against them, their response is "they're probably just jealous, let's keep doing this!". They need to see a shrink.

[goldy]

I know how you feel. Not only are their lyrics juvenile and borderline retarded (putting it nicely), but their screams also sound like babies being fed through a malfunctioning waste disposal. I seriously don't know how their fans, or the record labels can tolerate this crap. Even amidst all of the terrible reviews, outrage from people who like real music and real bands speaking out against them, their response is "they're probably just jealous, let's keep doing this!". They need to see a shrink.

im hoping its a fad that just goes away come Christmas

[fl3shcano3]

Ahaha. Just one more thing to add to the list of reasons why I adore Gallows. And I'm honestly surprised that their crowds are that big, but I'm really happy for them because they deserve it. I caught them on their last run on Warped, having just heard them for the first time about a week prior, and the reaction from the crowd was amazing (year before last?, they all run together), can't wait to see them this year.

But, uh, on topic-
He makes such a good point, when people idolize bands like 3Oh!3 and brokencyde, they're really ignoring the message that music should have but is getting overly hard to find these days.

[ThemChains]

Gallows has literally zero space to open their mouth on the subject of making meaningful music with meaningful lyrics.


My name is casanova
I'm basically a man
I have the head of a wolf
The appetite of an entire land
This song is going out to the girls
You're all looking fucking fine
Baby spread those shaking legs
Because I'm feeling fucking hungry tonight
I like to feed on broken hearts
There ain't no taste like lovers falling apart

If i offer to buy you a drink
Trust me when i say it's non-alcoholic
You're no good to me if you can't even speak
I don't want you passing out i want you sucking my dick
If i offer to buy you a drink
Trust me when i say it's non-alcoholic
I want you to wake up and remember my name
When you're washing my cum off your fucking face

My name is casanova
I'm basically a man
I have the head of a wolf
The appetite of an entire land
This song is going out to the girls
You're all looking well buff
I'm sick of all this long term shit
I just wanna fuck

My name is casanova
I'm nothing but a beast
Baby the way you're shaking those hips
Has got me ready for a fucking feast
This song is going out to the girls
I want to feel your body close against mine
Why waste time with conversation
When we can fuck for the rest of our lives

The hardest thing you'll ever learn
Is just to love and be loved in return

[caveBEAR]

Not saying the Gallows lyrics should win an award or anything...but they at least sound sexual. I mean, the lyrics are about sex. The BrokeNCYDE lyrics sound more like an 8th grader who just learned some naughty terms and is trying to use them to brag, but really hasn't had any experience with said terms.

[goldy]

Gallows has literally zero space to open their mouth on the subject of making meaningful music with meaningful lyrics.

that's old Gallows though. he was referring to the stuff they wrote for Grey Britain

[ThemChains]

that's old Gallows though. he was referring to the stuff they wrote for Grey Britain

So because it's old Gallows, that means it doesn't count? Wrong.

[fl3shcano3]

What do you expect? So many bands write about sex.
And it's not like Gallows does it in a tasteless manner, so who gives a fuck. D:

[element4433]

Oh man. One horrible band talking about a much worse band.

[goldy]

So because it's old Gallows, that means it doesn't count? Wrong.

i never said that. "Orchestra of Wolves" was obviously written from a creative stand point as the singer himself has said that a few times. a lot of musicians write about sex, just most of them don't do it in a distasteful way like Brokencyde.

[ThemChains]

i never said that. "Orchestra of Wolves" was obviously written from a creative stand point as the singer himself has said that a few times. a lot of musicians write about sex, just most of them don't do it in a distasteful way like Brokencyde.

Some of the lines in that song are really tasteless. How fucking desensitized are you? That song oozes the same cheap sex rhetoric that the very same bands he's talking about do.

[goldy]

Some of the lines in that song are really tasteless. How fucking desensitized are you? That song oozes the same cheap sex rhetoric that the very same bands he's talking about do.

yea but the song's not about him, its about other people that do that. in Brokencyde's case it is about them. that's the difference. plus, that's all Brokencyde "sings" about so there is no real reason to argue for them.

[aerofan11]

N8F5YSA1Oz0
EDIT: Skip ahead to 1:50 for the 'lulz'. Seriously, what's up with the loser in the off-blue shirt and shorts?
Jesus Christ, what the hell? "Let get fucking freaky now (retarded scream)". People like this? I feel sorry for that girl who was getting screamed at by those two losers.

[nlo13]

Jesus Christ, what the hell? "Let get fucking freaky now (retarded scream)". People like this? I feel sorry for that girl who was getting screamed at by those two losers.

Welcome to Brokencyde. They suck. Not even the worst though. Personally, I would take brokencyde over Millionaires any day.

[aerofan11]

Welcome to Brokencyde. They suck. Not even the worst though. Personally, I would take brokencyde over Millionaires any day.
I don't know. The Millionaires suck, but at least they don't scream, well at least from the song I've listened to they haven't (Just got paid, let's get laid). But if Brokenclyde took out all the screams, there music would be a little more tolerable (not by much though).
If that isn't the worse, what is?

[zonto]

I agree with you on that point. Both are base and disgusting. At least the lyrics from the Gallows song posted compared to BrokenCYDE's crap.

[ThemChains]

yea but the song's not about him, its about other people that do that. in Brokencyde's case it is about them. that's the difference. plus, that's all Brokencyde "sings" about so there is no real reason to argue for them.

There is nothing in the song that qualifies it as being about someone else, therefore it's still the same thing.

[shit stroll]

Gallows has literally zero space to open their mouth on the subject of making meaningful music with meaningful lyrics.


My name is casanova
I'm basically a man
I have the head of a wolf
The appetite of an entire land
This song is going out to the girls
You're all looking fucking fine
Baby spread those shaking legs
Because I'm feeling fucking hungry tonight
I like to feed on broken hearts
There ain't no taste like lovers falling apart

If i offer to buy you a drink
Trust me when i say it's non-alcoholic
You're no good to me if you can't even speak
I don't want you passing out i want you sucking my dick
If i offer to buy you a drink
Trust me when i say it's non-alcoholic
I want you to wake up and remember my name
When you're washing my cum off your fucking face

My name is casanova
I'm basically a man
I have the head of a wolf
The appetite of an entire land
This song is going out to the girls
You're all looking well buff
I'm sick of all this long term shit
I just wanna fuck

My name is casanova
I'm nothing but a beast
Baby the way you're shaking those hips
Has got me ready for a fucking feast
This song is going out to the girls
I want to feel your body close against mine
Why waste time with conversation
When we can fuck for the rest of our lives

The hardest thing you'll ever learn
Is just to love and be loved in return


haha.

[MrOctober430]

i like brokencyde i bump that shit all day in my car with the bass high and proud

jk

[jennaksquared]

There is nothing in the song that qualifies it as being about someone else, therefore it's still the same thing.
How the hell do you get off on even comparing a band like Gallows and Brokencyde? Gallows is a legitimate band that has released two albums of substance, and we've all seen what kind of "band" Brokencyde is. Don't discount Gallows because of one song, which you're misinterpreting the meaning of.

[ThemChains]

How the hell do you get off on even comparing a band like Gallows and Brokencyde? Gallows is a legitimate band that has released two albums of substance, and we've all seen what kind of "band" Brokencyde is. Don't discount Gallows because of one song, which you're misinterpreting the meaning of.

I'm going to go ahead and say you are hardly an authority to determine the validity of my interpretation of that song. I'm merely displaying the similarities between lyrics. It's one song? So what, they still wrote that song, played that song for the purpose of recording, and play that song live at shows. And calling Gallows a band of legitimacy and substance is just as subjective as my own interpretation of the lyrics to their song. So you're not making a statement that is anymore credible or factual than mine. I said what I think, I meant it. Gallows isn't even a good band. They don't have any good songs. They haven't released any good albums. They're also obvious hypocrites as Mike so kindly pointed out to us. They don't even deserve to be discounted.

[thesafeword]

Users/Bands who constantly make fun of brokencyde are worse than brokencyde.

[zonto]

Users/Bands who constantly make fun of brokencyde are worse than brokencyde.

Take it back.

[thesafeword]

Take it back.
Never, I'd rather listen to brokencyde than listen to this site and the bands it dry humps make fun of brokencyde.

[jennaksquared]

I'm going to go ahead and say you are hardly an authority to determine the validity of my interpretation of that song. I'm merely displaying the similarities between lyrics. It's one song? So what, they still wrote that song, played that song for the purpose of recording, and play that song live at shows. And calling Gallows a band of legitimacy and substance is just as subjective as my own interpretation of the lyrics to their song. So you're not making a statement that is anymore credible or factual than mine. I said what I think, I meant it. Gallows isn't even a good band. They don't have any good songs. They haven't released any good albums. They're also obvious hypocrites as Mike so kindly pointed out to us. They don't even deserve to be discounted.
Alright, fair enough. I can't know for sure what their intent was in writing that song, although I have seen interviews in which their lyricist talks about it. But even if they do have the occasional distasteful song, if you listen to anything on Grey Britain you can't rightly say that there's no meaning to their music, regardless as to whether you like them or not.

[ThemChains]

Alright, fair enough. I can't know for sure what their intent was in writing that song, although I have seen interviews in which their lyricist talks about it. But even if they do have the occasional distasteful song, if you listen to anything on Grey Britain you can't rightly say that there's no meaning to their music, regardless as to whether you like them or not.

Judging from their previous talk about DIY ethics and all, and then major label signing, I won't be taking anything they say on their album seriously.

[HITOF]

not wanting to bump a thread too much but ThemChains, the Gallows lyrics posted are sarcastic/derogatory towards certain people, i believe, although sung in the first person.

[Jumpoff]

not wanting to bump a thread too much but ThemChains, the Gallows lyrics posted are sarcastic/derogatory towards certain people, i believe, although sung in the first person.

Last I heard, Frank said it was about having fun while being straight edge. Or at least I'm pretty sure I read that.. not like I made it up myself... and I do like that song :whistle:

[HITOF]

I've seen an interview that i can't find now that asked him whether those lyrics are about himself or whatever, and he said something like they were partially about some aspects of himself , partially about people he's sees in clubs/etc. I'll keep trying to find the interview.

See, we now have at least two posts of discussion on some lyrics as they have some depth. Don't get that with Brokencyde.

[Jumpoff]

I wouldn't say those lyrics have "depth".... it's not like he's really trying to get any message across, he's just talking in the most vulgar possible way about sex. It's just fun to scream along to.

[HITOF]

I'd say there is a point he's trying to put across. He's deliberately showing himself/others who behave in such a way in a negative light, is he not?


wow, actual debate on a forum. All the other forums i've been on i'd've got "lol yh" or "lol dat is wrong *** ***"

[x togepi x]

they probably said this so dumb people will be like YEAH GALLOWS PUNK ROCK THEY'RE STANDING UP FOR WHAT'S RIGHT.

which is ironic because this band already said they were going to break up so one of them can be a famous tattoo artist.

you guys need to stop mindlessly buying what you get sold.

[HITOF]

and you need to listen/read more closely. They weren't going to break up so one of them can "become a famous tattoo artist". What was said was that Frank Carter considered his day job is being a tattoo artist and the band was merely a hobby.

[x togepi x]

and you need to listen/read more closely. They weren't going to break up so one of them can "become a famous tattoo artist". What was said was that Frank Carter considered his day job is being a tattoo artist and the band was merely a hobby.

I like that you think this makes them a real respectable band. it's great that you're jocking a band that considers their work the equivalent to building a model train set.

i can't wait until they break up. fuck this band so hard.

[HITOF]

did i say that i think it makes them a real respectable band?


please show me where i said that.


What do you consider being in a band equivalent to?

[x togepi x]

i consider my band my calling, and the reason i'm going to school is to get a job to fund it. it's definitely not a hobby.

[HITOF]

hahahahaha.

Right, so you go to school during the day. Just like most band's go to work during the day to fund their band's tours/recording etc. I go to work to fund getting drunk. That's a hobby. Where's the difference?

Your band is not your 'calling'. No one's put on this earth with a set purpose or something they 'should' be doing. It's something you like doing so you fund it, like a hobby. Some people are lucky enough to turn that hobby into an occupation.

[x togepi x]

hahahahaha.

Right, so you go to school during the day. Just like most band's go to work during the day to fund their band's tours/recording etc. I go to work to fund getting drunk. That's a hobby. Where's the difference?

Because i would drop out of school in a heart beat to go on a tour if it was required. You don't do that with hobbies. They are of secondary importance.

Your band is not your 'calling'. No one's put on this earth with a set purpose or something they 'should' be doing. It's something you like doing so you fund it, like a hobby. Some people are lucky enough to turn that hobby into an occupation.

Yes, because clearly people can't generate their own purposes and things they feel like they should be doing...

There's a huge difference between turning a hobby into an occupation (something that doesn't even apply to my band because it's irrelevant) and doing it because you feel like it's what you should be doing. While it's awesome that the guys in Gallows can occasionally get off their giant major label backed package deals and play DIY for a couple days a tour, I do it because that's what feels right to me.

[HITOF]

Have you ever been on tour?

You may well have generated your own purpose for yourself in playing music. Are you not then guilty of "mindlessly buying what you get sold" as you put it earlier? We have all been lead to believe by the mainstream media in recent times that we'll all be rockstars and actors and everything will be just swell. To be honest, if you intend not to take your band further, and just stay playing shows next to no one, as long as you're enjoying it, that's a hobby.

[turncoat93]

Gallows has literally zero space to open their mouth on the subject of making meaningful music with meaningful lyrics.


My name is casanova
I'm basically a man
I have the head of a wolf
The appetite of an entire land
This song is going out to the girls
You're all looking fucking fine
Baby spread those shaking legs
Because I'm feeling fucking hungry tonight
I like to feed on broken hearts
There ain't no taste like lovers falling apart

If i offer to buy you a drink
Trust me when i say it's non-alcoholic
You're no good to me if you can't even speak
I don't want you passing out i want you sucking my dick
If i offer to buy you a drink
Trust me when i say it's non-alcoholic
I want you to wake up and remember my name
When you're washing my cum off your fucking face

My name is casanova
I'm basically a man
I have the head of a wolf
The appetite of an entire land
This song is going out to the girls
You're all looking well buff
I'm sick of all this long term shit
I just wanna fuck

My name is casanova
I'm nothing but a beast
Baby the way you're shaking those hips
Has got me ready for a fucking feast
This song is going out to the girls
I want to feel your body close against mine
Why waste time with conversation
When we can fuck for the rest of our lives

The hardest thing you'll ever learn
Is just to love and be loved in return



this song is fucking sarcastic.
if youve ever heard them talk about the lyrics, they are about the animal instinct in man and combating it.
if you think its literal your a idiot.

[ThemChains]

Have you ever been on tour?

You may well have generated your own purpose for yourself in playing music. Are you not then guilty of "mindlessly buying what you get sold" as you put it earlier? We have all been lead to believe by the mainstream media in recent times that we'll all be rockstars and actors and everything will be just swell. To be honest, if you intend not to take your band further, and just stay playing shows next to no one, as long as you're enjoying it, that's a hobby.

You appear to live a sad existence devoid of passion.


Also, as far as the lyrics to that song are concerned. No fucking care what it actually means, or what they claim it means. It's an awful song, and when it comes down to it, they're an awful band. Every Time I Die already did this shit years ago, and I don't even like that band. Being DIY on a major label is a fucking joke and these assholes have you all fooled.

[x togepi x]

Have you ever been on tour?

i leave for tour in roughly two weeks. i've done it a bit before. what exactly does this prove?

You may well have generated your own purpose for yourself in playing music. Are you not then guilty of "mindlessly buying what you get sold" as you put it earlier? We have all been lead to believe by the mainstream media in recent times that we'll all be rockstars and actors and everything will be just swell.

Since I would rather be an Ian Mackaye or Ian Svenious than a rock star, no. Rock and roll is a bloated zombie parody of itself; co-opted as an alternative marketplace long before even our parents were born. fuck that.

compare this to you hyping a band that is 1) claiming to be DIY while on a major label and doing major label corporate tours like warped tour 2) making fun of brokencyde in 2009 when that band's been a joke for two years now 3)says their band is a mere hobby and will probably break up so the dude can focus on tattooing.

To be honest, if you intend not to take your band further, and just stay playing shows next to no one, as long as you're enjoying it, that's a hobby.

I don't play to "next to nobody", dumb ass. Hobbies are things people do to generate interest in their lives as a sort of escape from other things like job/family life etc. I'm not doing that. I'm not escaping anything. Your conception of living is boring and depressing.

[Stormtrooper]

Gallows > Brokencyde. And to the idiot that said that Gallows exists so Frank can become a famous tattoo artist is just dead wrong. Frank himself said that the band was made as a side project and they didn't plan to last past 2010 because tattooing is his real passion.

Also, regardless how you view Gallows' music, they put on one hell of a show at Warped(Biggest circle pit of the day). And Brokencyde as well as the Millionaires were getting bottles thrown at them.

[HITOF]

You appear to live a sad existence devoid of passion.


Also, as far as the lyrics to that song are concerned. No fucking care what it actually means, or what they claim it means. It's an awful song, and when it comes down to it, they're an awful band. Every Time I Die already did this shit years ago, and I don't even like that band. Being DIY on a major label is a fucking joke and these assholes have you all fooled.

I'm a realist. The modern world is fucking shit.

i leave for tour in roughly two weeks. i've done it a bit before. what exactly does this prove?



Since I would rather be an Ian Mackaye or Ian Svenious than a rock star, no. Rock and roll is a bloated zombie parody of itself; co-opted as an alternative marketplace long before even our parents were born. fuck that.

compare this to you hyping a band that is 1) claiming to be DIY while on a major label and doing major label corporate tours like warped tour 2) making fun of brokencyde in 2009 when that band's been a joke for two years now 3)says their band is a mere hobby and will probably break up so the dude can focus on tattooing.



I don't play to "next to nobody", dumb ass. Hobbies are things people do to generate interest in their lives as a sort of escape from other things like job/family life etc. I'm not doing that. I'm not escaping anything. Your conception of living is boring and depressing.

I asked if you'd been on tour to check you knew what you are talking about, having been on tour myself.

I'll agree with your second paragraph.

Thirdly i'm not hyping Gallows. Have i even said i am a fan? I bet some band you like has done Warped. Don't act like you knew about Brokencyde before anyone else. It's quite amusing also that you feel the need to call me a "dumb ass" and criticise my conception of living. You're obviously frustrated.


Finally, prove it. What are you doing?

[x togepi x]

I'm a realist. The modern world is fucking shit.

the modern world is what it is. if you are going to write it off as "fucking shit", then you have the most depressing outlook possible and that's hardly realism.

but fuck realism anyway.

I asked if you'd been on tour to check you knew what you are talking about, having been on tour myself.

how is this relevant to the discussion?

Thirdly i'm not hyping Gallows. Have i even said i am a fan?

You are defending them. That's all that matters.

I bet some band you like has done Warped.

Actually, lots of bands I like have been on Warped. The difference being that, they didn't brag about being DIY or act like they were something that they weren't. (well except lawrence arms but they got kicked off for what they did on warped).

Don't act like you knew about Brokencyde before anyone else.

I didn't do this. I just said people have been bashing this band for a very long time. Gallows coming out and doing it is nothing special. In fact, it's actually quite trendy. It's an attempt to gain some sincerity to a lifeless discography from this band.

It's quite amusing also that you feel the need to call me a "dumb ass" and criticise my conception of living. You're obviously frustrated.

I'm frustrated with your lame arguments here. You've already said you were a "realist", i think that's fucking dumb. cool.

Finally, prove it. What are you doing?

going on tour, recording, putting out a 7inch, booking shows. why does this matter? music isn't a pissing contest. i don't feel the need to verify these things with you.

[HITOF]

the modern world is what it is. if you are going to write it off as "fucking shit", then you have the most depressing outlook possible and that's hardly realism.

but fuck realism anyway.



how is this relevant to the discussion?



You are defending them. That's all that matters.



Actually, lots of bands I like have been on Warped. The difference being that, they didn't brag about being DIY or act like they were something that they weren't. (well except lawrence arms but they got kicked off for what they did on warped).



I didn't do this. I just said people have been bashing this band for a very long time. Gallows coming out and doing it is nothing special. In fact, it's actually quite trendy. It's an attempt to gain some sincerity to a lifeless discography from this band.



I'm frustrated with your lame arguments here. You've already said you were a "realist", i think that's fucking dumb. cool.



going on tour, recording, putting out a 7inch, booking shows. why does this matter? music isn't a pissing contest. i don't feel the need to verify these things with you.

Yeah sure, "fuck" a realistic outlook on what you see happening day to day. I'm obviously from a very different place to you.

It's relevant because you would drop school for going on tour, Touring is a fucking pain in the ass. It has it's joys, it has it's losses. You're gonna need an education. Sounds like you already do actually.

I'm not defending them, i just hate the misinformed and ignorant.

A very long time? How long.

You don't feel the need to verify these things with me, but you just did anyway. And going on tour, recording etc doesn't mean what you're doing isn't a hobby.

[x togepi x]

Yeah sure, "fuck" a realistic outlook on what you see happening day to day. I'm obviously from a very different place to you.

if you're only willing to look at the fucked up things that are happening and ignore the beautiful ones, then there's a problem. hence my contention: the world is what it is.

t's relevant because you would drop school for going on tour, Touring is a fucking pain in the ass. It has his joys, it has it's losses. You're gonna need an education. Sounds like you already do actually.

and this is why I am saying: it isn't a hobby. i've been stranded on the side of the road hundreds of miles from home late at night in 30 degree weather because our van broke down. that fucking sucked, but the fact that i'm more than willing to do that again just to tour shows it's not a hobby.

i know this because i can compare this to my real hobby: my bike. riding my bike rules. it's fun, but i'm not willing to make any super sacrifices for it. like, a few months back, someone tried jacking the tires since i have quick release ones. they ended up fucking up the gears, break pads because i locked them up. while i don't normally mind doing some routine maintence on the bike, like fixing a flat, i learned all the shit i'd have to do to fix my bike and decided it was a "fucking pain in the ass". Instead of doing it myself, i took it to the bike shop and had someone else doing it.

therein lies the difference between a mere hobby and what i'm referring to as a calling.

I'm not defending them, i just hate the misinformed and ignorant.

Do you hate yourself? We're arguing from the perspective that this band is a sham (something you've never proved), and all you've merely done is correct some facts. Yeah, i was wrong about a minor detail, but that doesn't change the reality that he considers his band secondary to his tattoo career.

it still doesn't change the fact that theyr'e fakes and bragging about DIY and criticizing the state of the industry while reaping the benefits of the fucked up industry they damn.

A very long time? How long.

Ever since they started to gain any sort of prominence, like one, maybe two years. That's a very long time in context.

You don't feel the need to verify these things with me, but you just did anyway. And going on tour, recording etc doesn't mean what you're doing isn't a hobby.

I didn't verify anything, i just merely stated some things i'm doing. You could easily say "show me your myspace, give me the password so i can see that you're actually in the band and are doing things. show me the demos to your 7inch blah blah blah". I didn't prove shit there.

of course that doesn't mean it's not a hobby, the fact that i still live in springfield missouri is what proves that it isn't.

[tommy's ghost]

your a idiot.

I think I should start sig'ing these to make a collection of ironic insults.

[HITOF]

if you're only willing to look at the fucked up things that are happening and ignore the beautiful ones, then there's a problem. hence my contention: the world is what it is.



and this is why I am saying: it isn't a hobby. i've been stranded on the side of the road hundreds of miles from home late at night in 30 degree weather because our van broke down. that fucking sucked, but the fact that i'm more than willing to do that again just to tour shows it's not a hobby.

i know this because i can compare this to my real hobby: my bike. riding my bike rules. it's fun, but i'm not willing to make any super sacrifices for it. like, a few months back, someone tried jacking the tires since i have quick release ones. they ended up fucking up the gears, break pads because i locked them up. while i don't normally mind doing some routine maintence on the bike, like fixing a flat, i learned all the shit i'd have to do to fix my bike and decided it was a "fucking pain in the ass". Instead of doing it myself, i took it to the bike shop and had someone else doing it.

therein lies the difference between a mere hobby and what i'm referring to as a calling.



Do you hate yourself? We're arguing from the perspective that this band is a sham (something you've never proved), and all you've merely done is correct some facts. Yeah, i was wrong about a minor detail, but that doesn't change the reality that he considers his band secondary to his tattoo career.

it still doesn't change the fact that theyr'e fakes and bragging about DIY and criticizing the state of the industry while reaping the benefits of the fucked up industry they damn.



Ever since they started to gain any sort of prominence, like one, maybe two years. That's a very long time in context.



I didn't verify anything, i just merely stated some things i'm doing. You could easily say "show me your myspace, give me the password so i can see that you're actually in the band and are doing things. show me the demos to your 7inch blah blah blah". I didn't prove shit there.

of course that doesn't mean it's not a hobby, the fact that i still live in springfield missouri is what proves that it isn't.

At the end of the day, this all stems from the age old complaint "They aren't DIY they're on a major :O". Which is so fucking boring it's unreal. I moved in the same UK hardcore scene as Gallows and i never saw anything that proved them to be a sham. Nothing. When have they bragged abotu DIY? You've just got a bee in your bonnet because all the bands you like have either broken up or no one knows or cares about, which makes you nothing new at all. I've met so many like you and i'll meet many more.


Also, still a hobby, your band will never 'get anywhere' (you won't be held in regard like Ian Mckaye). I hope that spurs you on when when your cliche'd van breaking down story supposedly happens again. Yawn.

[weezy mac]

lol fall of troy fans hating on brokencyde.

[ThemChains]

At the end of the day, this all stems from the age old complaint "They aren't DIY they're on a major :O". Which is so fucking boring it's unreal. I moved in the same UK hardcore scene as Gallows and i never saw anything that proved them to be a sham. Nothing. When have they bragged abotu DIY? You've just got a bee in your bonnet because all the bands you like have either broken up or no one knows or cares about, which makes you nothing new at all. I've met so many like you and i'll meet many more.


Also, still a hobby, your band will never 'get anywhere' (you won't be held in regard like Ian Mckaye). I hope that spurs you on when when your cliche'd van breaking down story supposedly happens again. Yawn.

You're too cool for the room. And not in any way that is entertaining. He doesn't WANT to be Ian Mackaye, he's saying he's more partial to that brand of success than mainstream success. Get bent, you fucking dingle.

[HITOF]

Nah mate.

[x togepi x]

At the end of the day, this all stems from the age old complaint "They aren't DIY they're on a major :O". Which is so fucking boring it's unreal.

what amazingly articulate points are you bringing to this discussion again? You're just whining about my band, whom you've never heard, and half-ass defending an absolutely terrible fake punk band. Awesome.

I moved in the same UK hardcore scene as Gallows and i never saw anything that proved them to be a sham. Nothing. When have they bragged abotu DIY?

The press release I read from them claimed they were DIY.

You've just got a bee in your bonnet because all the bands you like have either broken up or no one knows or cares about, which makes you nothing new at all. I've met so many like you and i'll meet many more.

i like crust punk and fall out boy so yeah this totally doesn't apply. i just like bands who are what they say they are.

Also, still a hobby, your band will never 'get anywhere' (you won't be held in regard like Ian Mckaye).

While I'm sure the band you toured with totally didn't suck, the fact that you think i care whether we "go anywhere" or not is hilarious. I like doing it. I would give up things to do it, and that's that. It rules that people from out of town like it. It rules that people in my town like it.

are you sure you're not universalizing your own insecurities?

I hope that spurs you on when when your cliche'd van breaking down story supposedly happens again. Yawn.

It is a cliche, but it's funny that you're pointing this out while repeating the same angsty "the world is fucked" bullshit that every 15 year old boy who tried reading Nietzsche and kind of understood it because theyr'e smarter than all the other dumb ass teenagers talking points.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

By all means, don't stop.

[ThemChains]

I love Chris.

[goldy]

Gallows > Brokencyde. And to the idiot that said that Gallows exists so Frank can become a famous tattoo artist is just dead wrong. Frank himself said that the band was made as a side project and they didn't plan to last past 2010 because tattooing is his real passion.


if you check the interview that started this thread, Stephen talks about how long the band will last saying they could most definitely put out more albums, it just all depends on how they feel on a day-to-day basis.

[Losing Streak]

This (http://thrashmag.com/reviews/content.aspx?id=5144) Brokencyde review is one of the best things I've ever read