die-ins?

[Justin_stacy]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=1512&e=15&u=/afp/20030327/wl_afp/iraq_war_us_demos_ny_1

Look more stupidity in the streets.

[yeat182]

i heard yesterday that in San Fransisco a bunch of anti-war protesters were arrested for carrying molotov cocktails, knives and other weapons....what the fuck?

[billcom6]

A die-in is basically like an idiot convention held in the middle of a street.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by yeat182
i heard yesterday that in San Fransisco a bunch of anti-war protesters were arrested for carrying molotov cocktails, knives and other weapons....what the fuck?

I think thats there idea of peaceful protest.

[evil zach]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=1512&e=15&u=/afp/20030327/wl_afp/iraq_war_us_demos_ny_1

Look more stupidity in the streets.
Civil disobediance is a very efecive form of protest.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by evil zach
Civil disobediance is a very efecive form of protest.

Very effective in turning people against you. Or totally ignoring your comments or opinions.

[Justin_stacy]

I personally think these people are really helping Bush and war gain support. Because people look at these folks and think that all anti-war protesters are this stupid and dont want to be apart of that.

[evil zach]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Very effective in turning people against you. Or totally ignoring your comments or opinions.
What about Gandhi? Or Rosa Parks? The signers od the declaration of indipendance?

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by evil zach
What about Gandhi? Or Rosa Parks? The signers od the declaration of indipendance?

Gandhi didn't promote violent protests it was just the opposite. Rosa Parks disrupted a bus/a few people and the public agreed with her, the idiot protesters dispute hole citys and the public doesn't agree with them, thinks in part to there own actiosn.

[evil zach]

I've said befor the civil disobedeinas is effective untill it becomes an exuse to be violent
Despite the arrests, the demonstration passed peacefully, unlike an anti-war march last weekend in which activists clashed with police, leading to around 70 arrests
This obviously wasn't violent.
So why is this so bad. I don't understand

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
I've said befor the civil disobedeinas is effective untill it becomes an exuse to be violent

This obviously wasn't violent.
So why is this so bad. I don't understand
Is speeding down a highway violent? Then why is it illegal?

[therealhebm]

yay!!! were lying down in the middle of the street blocking traffic. getting in the way of ambulences and firetrucks who need to get to people who need help because we think can change the Presidents mind by putting our asses on blacktop for a few minutes.

if youre going to protest, do it right. get your permits. stay on the sidewalk. and most importantly RESPECT THOSE AROUND YOU WHO DONT AGREE WITH YOUR VIEWS AND JUST WANT TO GO ABOUT THEIR LIVES!!!

[evil zach]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Is speeding down a highway violent? Then why is it illegal?
Because it is quite dangorus and can lead to a very blooy violent death.
Lying in the road when there is no possible way for a car to hit you is neither dangorus or violent.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
Because it is quite dangorus and can lead to a very blooy violent death.
Lying in the road when there is no possible way for a car to hit you is neither dangorus or violent.
Speeding leads to car wrecks. Peace rallies have lead to violent riots. The people arrested were not just sitting on their ass, I guarentee you that, they were obviosly doing something to get arrested. Like this one guy from Portland was wining after getting arrested because he only threw acid in a police officers face. To me thats violent. Not everyone at those rallies were arrested, just those who could have turned violent. Just like cars are ticketed before they crash, these rioters were arrested before they hurt someone

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by evil zach
I've said befor the civil disobedeinas is effective untill it becomes an exuse to be violent

This obviously wasn't violent.
So why is this so bad. I don't understand

Just because they weren't violent doesn't make it ok, they were disrupting the lives of others and the is something they don't have the right to do.

My question to you is, Would and intelligent person ly down in the middle of the street in NY city?

[evil zach]

On an average day no. Of cource not. But they were at a protest, and they felt this was a good way to get there point across.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
On an average day no. Of cource not. But they were at a protest, and they felt this was a good way to get there point across.
I could kill every democrat in the world to try and make a point, would that make it correct?

[evil zach]

I'm sory, but theres a bit of diference between mass murders and lieing down on a city street.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
I'm sory, but theres a bit of diference between mass murders and lieing down on a city street.
but its making a point. you seem to say that all is fair in making a point, as long as thats your goal.

[evil zach]

you seem tof orget that on countless ocasions I have said that civil disobedience is ok untill it becomes an excuse to be violent.

[evil zach]

Originally posted by cal1082
that is a very bad analogy.

A better analogy would be: If someone was against the war and decided to wear a chicken suit every day to protest the war. Even though the chicken suit (laying in the road) has no connection to the war they think it is a good way to draw attention to themselves.

I would hope a majority of the people would realize how stupid both of these protests would be and are.
The lieing on the street is conected to the war. It is symbolic of all the people who have and will die as a result of it.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
you seem tof orget that on countless ocasions I have said that civil disobedience is ok untill it becomes an excuse to be violent.
blocking the way for emergency vehicles will only accomplish trouble

[therealhebm]

Originally posted by evil zach
The lieing on the street is conected to the war. It is symbolic of all the people who have and will die as a result of it.

i have no problem with anti-war protests. but the NY protest was illegal, they did not have a permit to be there (unlike the massive rallys held here last week) and they certinly dont have the right to interfere with people who just want to go about there lives. Lying in a public street is a hazard, a danger to all, and should not be condoned.

[evil zach]

Bush has made it very clear that he wont listen to leagal protest, so now we are forced to protest illeagly.

[BrandNewRock05]

Supposedly these protests are peaceful, but how many cases of we heard of brawls with each other, bystanders and policemen? Tons. Some guy even threw acid in a cops face. That deserves 10 years in the pen, not peaceful. Even those standing ILLEGALY in the streets should be cited for tresspassing

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
Bush has made it very clear that he wont listen to leagal protest, so now we are forced to protest illeagly.
So if you cant afford a car, you steal it?

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by cal1082
If he won't listen to legal protest it is probably because he doesnt agree with them. Doesnt mean you result to breaking the law.

Maybe i really want the government to cut taxes, but they won't. Do i just stop paying them all together?
GOOD ONE!

[yeat182]

the problem i have is that the guy who organized this said he wanted to protest in new york to remind the american citizens what 100 dead bodies look like. It's New York City, they don't need a reminder, they lost 3000+ people in one sitting, they know dead bodies.

[yeat182]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82395,00.html

[billcom6]

These die ins remind me of a little kid throwing a hissy fit till he gets what he wants.

[evil zach]

Bush reminds me of a school yard bully.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
Bush reminds me of a school yard bully.
Really original. Bush is more like an older kid on a playground who comes and breaks up another kid picking on an even smaller kid

[bossydacow]

No, Bush is the rich kid with the sweater draped around his shoulders, who only gets breaks up fights if it is affecting him, bribes teachers, and pays people to do his homework for him. In reality, he was probably also the kid that goes ,"I'll tell my daddy about this!" whenever something doesn't go his way.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by bossydacow
No, Bush is the rich kid with the sweater draped around his shoulders, who only gets breaks up fights if it is affecting him, bribes teachers, and pays people to do his homework for him. In reality, he was probably also the kid that goes ,"I'll tell my daddy about this!" whenever something doesn't go his way.
Where the hell do you get this?

[evil zach]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Really original. Bush is more like an older kid on a playground who comes and breaks up another kid picking on an even smaller kid
If I was going for orgonality I would have said "bush reminds me of a peguin with purple and plad feathers." But I was,'t so I just said what was on my mind at the time and has been for quite a while.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
If I was going for orgonality I would have said "bush reminds me of a peguin with purple and plad feathers." But I was,'t so I just said what was on my mind at the time and has been for quite a while.
the point of my thread wasnt to say you were unoriginal, just to say that example is full of shit

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by cal1082
Bush reminds me of the President of the United States who got tired of slapping Saddam on the wrist with a ruler and is finally doing something about it that should have been done years ago. thank god the analogies are done

[yeat182]

Originally posted by evil zach
Bush reminds me of a school yard bully.


the same can be said for saddam

[evil zach]

Originally posted by yeat182
the same can be said for saddam
I'm not going to argue with that. I can't, but 2 wrongs don't make a right.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
I'm not going to argue with that. I can't, but 2 wrongs don't make a right.
if you arent disciplined, what will stop you from doing it again. if a dog pees on your carpet, you hit it on the nose with a newspaper, if he pees on the carpet again, you hit him again, eventually the dog will get the message and stop urinating on the carpet