The Big Ten is the best.

[asianxcore]

Through games of Saturday, March 4
Average Avg Non-Conf Average Rankings of Members
Rnk Conference W-L Pct Overall RPI SOS (Rank) Non-Conf RPI Hi Lo Avg Median
1 Big Ten Conference 105-26 .802 .5843 .5177 ( 7) .5805 ( 1) 4 178 53 34
2 Big East Conference 148-43 .775 .5781 .5216 ( 5) .5735 ( 2) 2 229 63 44
3 Atlantic Coast Conference 118-30 .797 .5748 .4986 (19) .5647 ( 4) 1 148 66 63
4 Southeastern Conference 113-36 .758 .5730 .5237 ( 3) .5697 ( 3) 6 147 64 56
5 Big XII Conference 102-32 .761 .5595 .5081 (12) .5591 ( 5) 11 153 80 88
6 Missouri Valley Conference 66-27 .710 .5517 .5133 ( 9) .5587 ( 6) 21 228 93 39


Big Ten is the mutha fuckin best.

[sweethypocrisy]

i cant even read that, but i agree.

[Caleb Cattivera]

I-l-l-i-n-i

[sweethypocrisy]

I-l-l-i-n-i
o-h, i-o.

[hockey0001]

haha nope. Big East>Big Ten

[LeftWideOpen]

you should learn to cite your sources ...but anyway ..

Those numbers don't mean anything. The Big East has SIXTEEN teams ..sixteen. The worst teams in that league (South Florida, Providence, Depaul) skew those numbers. If the Big East could drop it's bottom 5 teams and only have 11, like the Big Ten, this would be no contest. You would finally shut your mouth, admit your ignorance, and go away. But honestly, to realize the Big East is better than the Big Ten is as simple as this ..

1) Big East: 5 ranked teams in the AP poll. #2 UConn, #4 Nova, #8 Pittsburgh, #16 WVU, #20 Georgetown
Big Ten: 4 ranked teams. #9 Ohio State, #10 Illinois, #23 Iowa, #25 Mich. State

Important thing about these rankings: UConn will be the #1 team as of tomorrow, and Nova will be #2. THE BIG EAST WILL HAVE THE TOP 2 TEAMS IN THE NATION. The other 3 are all likely to drop, but remain in the Top 25. Michigan State will be sent packing, leaving the Big Ten w/ only 3 teams ..and guess who's next in line to take it's spot? Marquette. The Big East will have 6, at minimum 5 if Georgetown is knocked out, while the Big Ten will only have 3.

2) Non-conference wins. Big East teams have beat the likes of Duke, Gonzaga, big ten's very own Indiana, Oklahoma, Bucknell, UCLA, NC State, LSU, big ten's Wisconsin. That's 9 W's against Top 25 or Big Ten contender teams.

The Big Ten? uhh ...LSU, UNC, Georgetown, NC State, Marquette, BC. That's only 6, w/ the best being a 4 point W by Illinois over a young UNC team in it's 4th game of the year. They weren't even ranked at the time.

3) NCAA Bids. The Big East is going to break the all-time record for bids by a conference. 8 teams. Even 9, maybe, if Syracuse manages to upset Villanova today. But you are right, a better RPI where teams benefit from beating up one another in conference games, depending who is playing at home at the time, is really what matters. You are sooo convincing.

[BlackSheepWall]

Big Ten = Best Conf. in the nation

I*O*W*A

[justinevans]

you should learn to cite your sources ...but anyway ..

Those numbers don't mean anything. The Big East has SIXTEEN teams ..sixteen. The worst teams in that league (South Florida, Providence, Depaul) skew those numbers. If the Big East could drop it's bottom 5 teams and only have 11, like the Big Ten, this would be no contest. You would finally shut your mouth, admit your ignorance, and go away. But honestly, to realize the Big East is better than the Big Ten is as simple as this ..

1) Big East: 5 ranked teams in the AP poll. #2 UConn, #4 Nova, #8 Pittsburgh, #16 WVU, #20 Georgetown
Big Ten: 4 ranked teams. #9 Ohio State, #10 Illinois, #23 Iowa, #25 Mich. State

Important thing about these rankings: UConn will be the #1 team as of tomorrow, and Nova will be #2. THE BIG EAST WILL HAVE THE TOP 2 TEAMS IN THE NATION. The other 3 are all likely to drop, but remain in the Top 25. Michigan State will be sent packing, leaving the Big Ten w/ only 3 teams ..and guess who's next in line to take it's spot? Marquette. The Big East will have 6, at minimum 5 if Georgetown is knocked out, while the Big Ten will only have 3.

2) Non-conference wins. Big East teams have beat the likes of Duke, Gonzaga, big ten's very own Indiana, Oklahoma, Bucknell, UCLA, NC State, LSU, big ten's Wisconsin. That's 9 W's against Top 25 or Big Ten contender teams.

The Big Ten? uhh ...LSU, UNC, Georgetown, NC State, Marquette, BC. That's only 6, w/ the best being a 4 point W by Illinois over a young UNC team in it's 4th game of the year. They weren't even ranked at the time.

3) NCAA Bids. The Big East is going to break the all-time record for bids by a conference. 8 teams. Even 9, maybe, if Syracuse manages to upset Villanova today. But you are right, a better RPI where teams benefit from beating up one another in conference games, depending who is playing at home at the time, is really what matters. You are sooo convincing.

thank you.

[justinevans]

Big Ten = Best Conf. in the nation

I*O*W*A

how?

[FondestMemory]

i've been an ohio state fan my whole life. and i grew up directly between iu and purdue. so i've always followed and cheered for the big ten.

but there's no argument you're gonna be able to make to me this year that's gonna convince me it's a stronger conference than the big east right now.

[Caleb Cattivera]

you should learn to cite your sources ...but anyway ..

Those numbers don't mean anything. The Big East has SIXTEEN teams ..sixteen. The worst teams in that league (South Florida, Providence, Depaul) skew those numbers. If the Big East could drop it's bottom 5 teams and only have 11, like the Big Ten, this would be no contest. You would finally shut your mouth, admit your ignorance, and go away. But honestly, to realize the Big East is better than the Big Ten is as simple as this ..

1) Big East: 5 ranked teams in the AP poll. #2 UConn, #4 Nova, #8 Pittsburgh, #16 WVU, #20 Georgetown
Big Ten: 4 ranked teams. #9 Ohio State, #10 Illinois, #23 Iowa, #25 Mich. State

Important thing about these rankings: UConn will be the #1 team as of tomorrow, and Nova will be #2. THE BIG EAST WILL HAVE THE TOP 2 TEAMS IN THE NATION. The other 3 are all likely to drop, but remain in the Top 25. Michigan State will be sent packing, leaving the Big Ten w/ only 3 teams ..and guess who's next in line to take it's spot? Marquette. The Big East will have 6, at minimum 5 if Georgetown is knocked out, while the Big Ten will only have 3.

2) Non-conference wins. Big East teams have beat the likes of Duke, Gonzaga, big ten's very own Indiana, Oklahoma, Bucknell, UCLA, NC State, LSU, big ten's Wisconsin. That's 9 W's against Top 25 or Big Ten contender teams.

The Big Ten? uhh ...LSU, UNC, Georgetown, NC State, Marquette, BC. That's only 6, w/ the best being a 4 point W by Illinois over a young UNC team in it's 4th game of the year. They weren't even ranked at the time.

3) NCAA Bids. The Big East is going to break the all-time record for bids by a conference. 8 teams. Even 9, maybe, if Syracuse manages to upset Villanova today. But you are right, a better RPI where teams benefit from beating up one another in conference games, depending who is playing at home at the time, is really what matters. You are sooo convincing.

cant argue with that.

[justinevans]

also in the big east, you only play 3 teams twice.

[sweethypocrisy]

you should learn to cite your sources ...but anyway ..

Those numbers don't mean anything. The Big East has SIXTEEN teams ..sixteen. The worst teams in that league (South Florida, Providence, Depaul) skew those numbers. If the Big East could drop it's bottom 5 teams and only have 11, like the Big Ten, this would be no contest. You would finally shut your mouth, admit your ignorance, and go away. But honestly, to realize the Big East is better than the Big Ten is as simple as this ..

1) Big East: 5 ranked teams in the AP poll. #2 UConn, #4 Nova, #8 Pittsburgh, #16 WVU, #20 Georgetown
Big Ten: 4 ranked teams. #9 Ohio State, #10 Illinois, #23 Iowa, #25 Mich. State

Important thing about these rankings: UConn will be the #1 team as of tomorrow, and Nova will be #2. THE BIG EAST WILL HAVE THE TOP 2 TEAMS IN THE NATION. The other 3 are all likely to drop, but remain in the Top 25. Michigan State will be sent packing, leaving the Big Ten w/ only 3 teams ..and guess who's next in line to take it's spot? Marquette. The Big East will have 6, at minimum 5 if Georgetown is knocked out, while the Big Ten will only have 3.

2) Non-conference wins. Big East teams have beat the likes of Duke, Gonzaga, big ten's very own Indiana, Oklahoma, Bucknell, UCLA, NC State, LSU, big ten's Wisconsin. That's 9 W's against Top 25 or Big Ten contender teams.

The Big Ten? uhh ...LSU, UNC, Georgetown, NC State, Marquette, BC. That's only 6, w/ the best being a 4 point W by Illinois over a young UNC team in it's 4th game of the year. They weren't even ranked at the time.

3) NCAA Bids. The Big East is going to break the all-time record for bids by a conference. 8 teams. Even 9, maybe, if Syracuse manages to upset Villanova today. But you are right, a better RPI where teams benefit from beating up one another in conference games, depending who is playing at home at the time, is really what matters. You are sooo convincing.
another poll
1. Duke (27) 27-1 771
2. Connecticut (1) 25-2 732
3. Memphis (3) 26-2 716
4. Villanova 22-3 677
5. Gonzaga 24-3 647
6. George Washington 24-1 598
7. Texas 24-4 595
8. Ohio State 21-4 535
9. Pittsburgh 21-4 527
10. Illinois 23-5 493
11. Tennessee 20-5 440
12. Boston College 22-6 399
13. UCLA 22-6 390
14. Florida 22-6 311
15. North Carolina 19-6 294
16. Washington 22-5 291
17. Oklahoma 19-6 289
18. West Virginia 19-8 215
19. N.C. State 21-7 206
20. Georgetown 19-7 192
21. LSU 20-7 189
22. Kansas 20-7 174
23. Michigan State 19-9 88
24. Iowa 20-8 87
25. Wisconsin 19-8 42

[justinevans]

another poll
1. Duke (27) 27-1 771
2. Connecticut (1) 25-2 732
3. Memphis (3) 26-2 716
4. Villanova 22-3 677
5. Gonzaga 24-3 647
6. George Washington 24-1 598
7. Texas 24-4 595
8. Ohio State 21-4 535
9. Pittsburgh 21-4 527
10. Illinois 23-5 493
11. Tennessee 20-5 440
12. Boston College 22-6 399
13. UCLA 22-6 390
14. Florida 22-6 311
15. North Carolina 19-6 294
16. Washington 22-5 291
17. Oklahoma 19-6 289
18. West Virginia 19-8 215
19. N.C. State 21-7 206
20. Georgetown 19-7 192
21. LSU 20-7 189
22. Kansas 20-7 174
23. Michigan State 19-9 88
24. Iowa 20-8 87
25. Wisconsin 19-8 42


what are you trying to say?

[fire on my lips]

another poll
1. Duke (27) 27-1 771
2. Connecticut (1) 25-2 732
3. Memphis (3) 26-2 716
4. Villanova 22-3 677
5. Gonzaga 24-3 647
6. George Washington 24-1 598
7. Texas 24-4 595
8. Ohio State 21-4 535
9. Pittsburgh 21-4 527
10. Illinois 23-5 493
11. Tennessee 20-5 440
12. Boston College 22-6 399
13. UCLA 22-6 390
14. Florida 22-6 311
15. North Carolina 19-6 294
16. Washington 22-5 291
17. Oklahoma 19-6 289
18. West Virginia 19-8 215
19. N.C. State 21-7 206
20. Georgetown 19-7 192
21. LSU 20-7 189
22. Kansas 20-7 174
23. Michigan State 19-9 88
24. Iowa 20-8 87
25. Wisconsin 19-8 42

i'm pretty confused by this. This is last week's ESPN poll.

[sweethypocrisy]

what are you trying to say?
nothing. i was just posting it.

[sweethypocrisy]

i'm pretty confused by this. This is last week's ESPN poll.
oh, well i got it from espn.com. today. sorry.

[Criesofthepast7]

i am a Ohio State and Tar Heels fan.

so i agree with the big ten being the best.

[fire on my lips]

oh, well i got it from espn.com. today. sorry.
no problem, imo the big east is the best conference. It does have too many teams, which skews their records because they don't play too many teams twice.

[LeftWideOpen]

nothing. i was just posting it.

yeah, thats the coaches poll. i didnt post it because it's a joke ...but even so, it changes tomorrow and Wisconsin and Michigan State will be out of that too. The Big Ten will still wind up w/ only 3 teams ..no difference.

[bigmike]

big east is the better conference. but the big ten is 2nd or 3, at worst. besides, the "better conference" matters why, again?

[NameTaken69]

the big east is the best, no contest, LeftWideOpen said it all

[asianxcore]

you should learn to cite your sources ...but anyway ..

Those numbers don't mean anything. The Big East has SIXTEEN teams ..sixteen. The worst teams in that league (South Florida, Providence, Depaul) skew those numbers. If the Big East could drop it's bottom 5 teams and only have 11, like the Big Ten, this would be no contest. You would finally shut your mouth, admit your ignorance, and go away. But honestly, to realize the Big East is better than the Big Ten is as simple as this ..

1) Big East: 5 ranked teams in the AP poll. #2 UConn, #4 Nova, #8 Pittsburgh, #16 WVU, #20 Georgetown
Big Ten: 4 ranked teams. #9 Ohio State, #10 Illinois, #23 Iowa, #25 Mich. State

Important thing about these rankings: UConn will be the #1 team as of tomorrow, and Nova will be #2. THE BIG EAST WILL HAVE THE TOP 2 TEAMS IN THE NATION. The other 3 are all likely to drop, but remain in the Top 25. Michigan State will be sent packing, leaving the Big Ten w/ only 3 teams ..and guess who's next in line to take it's spot? Marquette. The Big East will have 6, at minimum 5 if Georgetown is knocked out, while the Big Ten will only have 3.

2) Non-conference wins. Big East teams have beat the likes of Duke, Gonzaga, big ten's very own Indiana, Oklahoma, Bucknell, UCLA, NC State, LSU, big ten's Wisconsin. That's 9 W's against Top 25 or Big Ten contender teams.

The Big Ten? uhh ...LSU, UNC, Georgetown, NC State, Marquette, BC. That's only 6, w/ the best being a 4 point W by Illinois over a young UNC team in it's 4th game of the year. They weren't even ranked at the time.

3) NCAA Bids. The Big East is going to break the all-time record for bids by a conference. 8 teams. Even 9, maybe, if Syracuse manages to upset Villanova today. But you are right, a better RPI where teams benefit from beating up one another in conference games, depending who is playing at home at the time, is really what matters. You are sooo convincing.

Big east has 8 of their 16 teams making it 50% ratio, Big Ten has 11 teams 7 are making it thats over 65%.

[fire on my lips]

Big east has 8 of their 16 teams making it 50% ratio, Big Ten has 11 teams 7 are making it thats over 65%.
all that means is that the Big Ten didnt have many teams that had a down year. The Big East still has two automatic number ones

[LeftWideOpen]

Big east has 8 of their 16 teams making it 50% ratio, Big Ten has 11 teams 7 are making it thats over 65%.

lol ..thats one hell of a defense man. the big ten is better because they dont have as many teams ..interesting. i guess that makes the SEC just as good as the Big East then, since they will get 6, or 50%. Good logic.

[NameTaken69]

lol ..thats one hell of a defense man. the big ten is better because they dont have as many teams ..interesting. i guess that makes the SEC just as good as the Big East then, since they will get 6, or 50%. Good logic.
haha i love you

[asianxcore]

lol ..thats one hell of a defense man. the big ten is better because they dont have as many teams ..interesting. i guess that makes the SEC just as good as the Big East then, since they will get 6, or 50%. Good logic.
haha, it shows there is more competiton among teams, making it the better conference.

[somethingyellow]

hows wisconsin doing?

[LeftWideOpen]

haha, it shows there is more competiton among teams, making it the better conference.

..no it doesnt. It shows that nobody stands out. It shows mediocrity. The Big East has the #1 and #2 teams in the nation.Naturally, a lot of other Big East teams are going to have 2-4 losses right there. In my mind, that makes it even more impressive that theres 6 other teams who will make the tournament despite having to deal w/ Nova and UConn.

When it comes down to it, they'll have much higher rankings than any other league ...more teams than any other league.. I don't know what else you can ask of a league. The Big Ten has made a strong case for 2nd w/ the re-emergence of Indiana ...but thats really what this debate should be about. Which conference is 2nd best, because the Big East has separated itself from the field.

[asianxcore]

..no it doesnt. It shows that nobody stands out. It shows mediocrity. The Big East has the #1 and #2 teams in the nation.Naturally, a lot of other Big East teams are going to have 2-4 losses right there. In my mind, that makes it even more impressive that theres 6 other teams who will make the tournament despite having to deal w/ Nova and UConn.

When it comes down to it, they'll have much higher rankings than any other league ...more teams than any other league.. I don't know what else you can ask of a league. The Big Ten has made a strong case for 2nd w/ the re-emergence of Indiana ...but thats really what this debate should be about. Which conference is 2nd best, because the Big East has separated itself from the field.
mediocrity doesnt get you 7 teams in the big dance. teams that have to deal with nova uconn have to do it a total of 2 to 4 times, four loses doesnt kill your bid hopes, let alone two. also the fact that they added a shit load of teams, and have 16 mother fucking teams in the big east, meaningh any respectable conference should have 8 teams in. A more "mediocore" conference has 7 teams in with FIVE fewer teams overall. Not to mention when you look at the RPI's there are 6 teams in the top 26, and 5 big east teams in the top 25 (http://kenpom.com/rpi.php).

[Vincewithouthee]

you should learn to cite your sources ...but anyway ..

Those numbers don't mean anything. The Big East has SIXTEEN teams ..sixteen. The worst teams in that league (South Florida, Providence, Depaul) skew those numbers. If the Big East could drop it's bottom 5 teams and only have 11, like the Big Ten, this would be no contest. You would finally shut your mouth, admit your ignorance, and go away. But honestly, to realize the Big East is better than the Big Ten is as simple as this ..

1) Big East: 5 ranked teams in the AP poll. #2 UConn, #4 Nova, #8 Pittsburgh, #16 WVU, #20 Georgetown
Big Ten: 4 ranked teams. #9 Ohio State, #10 Illinois, #23 Iowa, #25 Mich. State

Important thing about these rankings: UConn will be the #1 team as of tomorrow, and Nova will be #2. THE BIG EAST WILL HAVE THE TOP 2 TEAMS IN THE NATION. The other 3 are all likely to drop, but remain in the Top 25. Michigan State will be sent packing, leaving the Big Ten w/ only 3 teams ..and guess who's next in line to take it's spot? Marquette. The Big East will have 6, at minimum 5 if Georgetown is knocked out, while the Big Ten will only have 3.

2) Non-conference wins. Big East teams have beat the likes of Duke, Gonzaga, big ten's very own Indiana, Oklahoma, Bucknell, UCLA, NC State, LSU, big ten's Wisconsin. That's 9 W's against Top 25 or Big Ten contender teams.

The Big Ten? uhh ...LSU, UNC, Georgetown, NC State, Marquette, BC. That's only 6, w/ the best being a 4 point W by Illinois over a young UNC team in it's 4th game of the year. They weren't even ranked at the time.

3) NCAA Bids. The Big East is going to break the all-time record for bids by a conference. 8 teams. Even 9, maybe, if Syracuse manages to upset Villanova today. But you are right, a better RPI where teams benefit from beating up one another in conference games, depending who is playing at home at the time, is really what matters. You are sooo convincing.
I don't see how anyone can argue with that. It's so true. Whoever thinks the Big Ten is better is always a Big Ten biased fan. Everyone that's a fan outside the Big Ten would agree that the Big East is the best.

[LeftWideOpen]

I don't see how anyone can argue with that. It's so true. Whoever thinks the Big Ten is better is always a Big Ten biased fan. Everyone that's a fan outside the Big Ten would agree that the Big East is the best.

thank you. i am by no means a supporter of the Big East ...I love BC and the ACC. But, it's obvious the Big East is far and away the best conference this year. I guess I can't tolerate anyone thinking otherwise because it's so clear what the truth really is. I usually dont get this worked up over someone else's opinion lol.

[justinevans]

Is this guy still defending the big 10?

[preppyak]

big east is the better conference. but the big ten is 2nd or 3, at worst. besides, the "better conference" matters why, again?
I'd put it 2nd, but only the tourney will really reveal that.

The MVC may be the 3rd best conference, at least bid wise come next Sunday, they are looking at a possible 6 if teams like Cuse and FSU lose in the first round of their tourneys

[preppyak]

thank you. i am by no means a supporter of the Big East ...I love BC and the ACC. But, it's obvious the Big East is far and away the best conference this year. I guess I can't tolerate anyone thinking otherwise because it's so clear what the truth really is. I usually dont get this worked up over someone else's opinion lol.
How many times is this now that he has made this argument and been shot down. Since mid-January this has been a beat argument, I don't even know why there is this thread. Good points in your first post though.

[asianxcore]

thank you. i am by no means a supporter of the Big East ...I love BC and the ACC. But, it's obvious the Big East is far and away the best conference this year. I guess I can't tolerate anyone thinking otherwise because it's so clear what the truth really is. I usually dont get this worked up over someone else's opinion lol.
reply to my comment, do you watch sportscenter? all of the anyalists say the big ten is the best.

[LeftWideOpen]

reply to my comment, do you watch sportscenter? all of the anyalists say the big ten is the best.

no they don't. you just made that up. stop already because im sick of talking about this.

[asianxcore]

no they don't. you just made that up. stop already because im sick of talking about this.
watch sportscenter today. joe lundari said it, you fucking suck, your points suck, and you repeat the same fucking things.

[asianxcore]

no they don't. you just made that up. stop already because im sick of talking about this.
oh, you're sick of talking about because im right. thank you.

[asianxcore]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2356157

All Big East Team announced:
Randy Foye, Allan Ray, Rudy Gay and Steve Novak all unanimous choices
Mike Gansey, Kevin Pittsnogle, Eric Hicks, Chris Quinn, Aaron Gray, Quincy Douby and Gerry McNamara also named.
I care why? I'm waiting for the best conference to announce their team.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

reply to my comment, do you watch sportscenter? all of the anyalists say the big ten is the best.
Do you also think everything said on Around the Horn or PTI is credible? Those anyalists argue with each other all the time. And I have never heard anyone say the Big Ten is the best.

[preppyak]

watch sportscenter today. joe lundari said it, you fucking suck, your points suck, and you repeat the same fucking things.
Joe Lunardi, aside from being one of the worst Bracket person's I know, said they were #1 in the RPI, not that they were the best. But feel free to skew his words all you want.

[mcfly21]

as much as i love the big 10 they're not as good as the big east


even though, imo nova is overrated

[LeftWideOpen]

Joe Lunardi, aside from being one of the worst Bracket person's I know, said they were #1 in the RPI, not that they were the best. But feel free to skew his words all you want.

the rpi is the only argument he's made and when i countered it, he had no rebuttle. actually, he didnt respond to any of my arguments, he just said they were "stupid". needless to say, i wasnt convinced.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

What goes into RPI? I would imagine the massive big east hurts the top big east team's RPI at least a little bit. Before we throw around stats, lets clarify it.

[LeftWideOpen]

What goes into RPI? I would imagine the massive big east hurts the top big east team's RPI at least a little bit. Before we throw around stats, lets clarify it.

you are right. here's the breakdown ..too long to post here.

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/rpi_help/

[preppyak]

you are right. here's the breakdown ..too long to post here.

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/rpi_help/
awesome thanks...it relies to heavily on win percentage, not so much on score. Arizona, for example, has a lot of decent win percentages on their schedule, but the scores of those games are hit or miss.

The Big East is hurt a lot by teams that are 2-14 or 1-15 in the conference under taht same win percentage part, but that is the league not the RPI's fault.

And I think Gonzaga would be lower RPI wise and it would show if score was factored in more.

I know the RPI is a good measure of a team's season, but the process has it's flaws (Arizona) that can only be corrected by having watched the teams play thoughout the season.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Thanks. It seems like the score of a game should be included into this formula. Gonzaga beating a weak LMU team by 1 point tonight should have some impact on RPI.

[PunkVideoGuys]

can I post yet?