Protesters

[BrandNewRock05]

Good or bad?

[bossydacow]

protesters are good, but there is a limit. Blocking roads and lying down in streets so emergency vehicles cant pass is bad.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by bossydacow
protesters are good, but there is a limit. Blocking roads and lying down in streets so emergency vehicles cant pass is bad.
thank you

[therealhebm]

dude, dont write your polls like that. i happen to agree with you but you really turn people off when you put your personal opinion in like that.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by therealhebm
dude, dont write your polls like that. i happen to agree with you but you really turn people off when you put your personal opinion in like that.
Is it not the truth?

[yeat182]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82395,00.html

[bossydacow]

I think some people are so moved by the cause they believe in that it drives them to act like assholes. It's out of line, but at the same time, I sort of admire their passion.

[yeat182]

i don't admire anyone who attacks a soldier who is sworn to protect them and has done nothing to deserve it.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by yeat182
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82395,00.html
lynch those dumbass liberal fucks for throwing rocks at a servant of our country, what did she do to get stoned? I say those fuckers get atleast 15 in the pen. Damn that pisses me off. You see why protest isnt a good idea zach, fuckers like this ruin it for you.

[evil zach]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
lynch those dumbass liberal fucks for throwing rocks at a servant of our country, what did she do to get stoned? I say those fuckers get atleast 15 in the pen. Damn that pisses me off. You see why protest isnt a good idea zach, fuckers like this ruin it for you.
Protesting in its self isn't worng. Infact protesting things which one feels are un-just is one of the most important things anybody can do. Violent protest however, is wrong, but I'm not gonna let a few fuckers stop me from exersing my rights.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
Protesting in its self isn't worng. Infact protesting things which one feels are un-just is one of the most important things anybody can do. Violent protest however, is wrong, but I'm not gonna let a few fuckers stop me from exersing my rights.
As long as you have a permit and dont impede my life and the life of others, especially emergency vehicles, fine by me. If you want to wave a sign on a street corner and not be violent...more power to you, but you are a diamond in the rough zach. i dont agree with you on your political views, but i respect them because you arent a dickhead like neph, so ill agree with you on the fact that protest is all right, but you have to follow the law

[your moms hot]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
As long as you have a permit and dont impede my life and the life of others, especially emergency vehicles, fine by me. If you want to wave a sign on a street corner and not be violent...more power to you, but you are a diamond in the rough zach. i dont agree with you on your political views, but i respect them because you arent a dickhead like neph, so ill agree with you on the fact that protest is all right, but you have to follow the law
translation - if you dont challenge his way of life, if you keep to yourself and dont cause him any sort of problems...as long as he can keep on going doing whatever it is that he does without any sort of inconvience, he agrees with you. but block the roads so people actually notice?? shit..its over then. how many times has anyone actually listened to someone standing on a street corner waving a cardboard sign?? its called passive resistance for a reason...because you resist

course...violent resistance (ie throwing shit at people, riots, looting etc) just plain sucks

[Alex Djaferis]

wow, wasnt that a totally fair poll. Protesting is Fine with me as long as its peaceful. And as long as theyndo not hinder emergency vehicles to get to their locations

[yeat182]

Originally posted by your moms hot
translation - if you dont challenge his way of life, if you keep to yourself and dont cause him any sort of problems...as long as he can keep on going doing whatever it is that he does without any sort of inconvience


but isnt' this the same strategy you suggest for dealing with saddam?

[WithStamin]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
As long as you have a permit and dont impede my life and the life of others, especially emergency vehicles, fine by me. If you want to wave a sign on a street corner and not be violent...more power to you, but you are a diamond in the rough zach. i dont agree with you on your political views, but i respect them because you arent a dickhead like neph, so ill agree with you on the fact that protest is all right, but you have to follow the law Right. The right to assemble does not give you the right to break the law. You can assemble all you want, but once you start breaking the laws, you should be just as responsible for you actions as anyone else.

[evil zach]

thats the point of civil disobedince. To break the law, get caught, take responciblity, and draw attention to your cause.

[WithStamin]

Originally posted by evil zach
thats the point of civil disobedince. To break the law, get caught, take responciblity, and draw attention to your cause. But that's not what these people are doing. They're destroying public and private property and not taking responsibility, then saying they're doing it for peace. Then they say that they have the right to do it because of the first amendment. Am I the only one missing something here?

[evil zach]

No. It dosn't make sence atall.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
thats the point of civil disobedince. To break the law, get caught, take responciblity, and draw attention to your cause.
Fine if that guy who threw acid in some cops face wants to spend 10 years in jail to support his cause, good for him. But the problem is we get these liberal lawyers who can manage to find a loophole in about everything and get this fucker off the hook. Thats not fair. This guy should spend the whole ten years in jail, just because he claims hes a peace fighter doesnt make him any less of a criminal

[yeat182]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Fine if that guy who threw acid in some cops face wants to spend 10 years in jail to support his cause, good for him. But the problem is we get these liberal lawyers who can manage to find a loophole in about everything and get this fucker off the hook. Thats not fair. This guy should spend the whole ten years in jail, just because he claims hes a peace fighter doesnt make him any less of a criminal

it isn't good for the poor cop who got his face burned off by the acid...

[LeftCoastEnvius]

Protesters suck. I think we should take all the people who protest and send them over to fight. I'm not prowar, but people who protest piss me off.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by LeftCoastEnvius
Protesters suck. I think we should take all the people who protest and send them over to fight. I'm not prowar, but people who protest piss me off.

Thats great give more people who side with saddum more guns.

[evil zach]

How many more times do I need to say that we don't support saddam? Quite frankly I find it offensive that you would even imply that i do, or any body else who is opposed to the war for that matter. We simply don't agree with the methods being used to get rid of him, or belive that this war is for the soul purpose of removing him. Now would you please be so kind as to tell me how many more times I need to say this so that you will stop calling us saddam supporters?

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Thats great give more people who side with saddum more guns.


It was a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! got it.

[evil zach]

I hate the internet. One can never tell if one is joking or not.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by evil zach
How many more times do I need to say that we don't support saddam? Quite frankly I find it offensive that you would even imply that i do, or any body else who is opposed to the war for that matter. We simply don't agree with the methods being used to get rid of him, or belive that this war is for the soul purpose of removing him. Now would you please be so kind as to tell me how many more times I need to say this so that you will stop calling us saddam supporters?

I will agree that most protesters dont support saddum, but most have no better way for getting rid of him.

But i do think that the terrorist type protesters in SF and NY (ect.) do support him, they chose to beleive him over bush, they ignore the last 12 yrs, they ignore his evils.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
I hate the internet. One can never tell if one is joking or not.
Actually its inadvertant supporting. By appeasing him you actually help him complete his task of killing every one he hates

[Matthew]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Is it not the truth?

No, it is not. It is your opinion you concieted fuck. And you quoted the wrong post you ugly bastard.

[Safetyin#]

Well there at it again!
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030416/wl_nm/europe_summit_protests_dc_1

Greek police said they arrested 106 anti-Iraq (news - web sites) war demonstrators after two hours of violence close to the scene of an EU summit in Athens on Wednesday.

Protesters threw Molotov cocktails, stones, bricks and paint at police and the Italian, French, British and U.S. embassies.

"This is a very large number of arrests. We have very rarely detained so many people, not even at soccer matches," a police official told Reuters.

At least five people were injured, including a police officer and a cameraman who was attacked by demonstrators.

Smoke from flaming Molotov cocktails and teargas billowed in the air as police helicopters hovered above the demonstration.

Dozens of shop fronts, bus stops and garbage bins were smashed and set on fire.

[evil zach]

This is my favorite part
"This is a very large number of arrests. We have very rarely detained so many people, not even at soccer matches,"
thats awesome.
any how "they ignore peaceful protest. they can't ignore a city on fire." I don't support violent protest, but I can see how some would find it nessesary. I just don;t want anything to do with it.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
I can see how some would find it nessesary.
9/11 was a violent protest

[evil zach]

so was the revolutionary war

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
so was the revolutionary war
except the revolutionary war was a war, a declared war that did not kill thousands of civilians, and yes i am aware that we fought with a militia, but that is still considered military personel

[evil zach]

It was still a violent protest against the british government. Also, The boston tea party could be concidered vandalism.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
It was still a violent protest against the british government. Also, The boston tea party could be concidered vandalism.
Yes it was a violent protest. Yet we declared war. There is the key. All is fair in love and war. Since it was a war, completely separate category. And I dont support the Boston Tea Party, really dumb idea.

[evil zach]

One could argue that the 9/11 attacks were part of a jihad.

[yeat182]

Originally posted by evil zach
It was still a violent protest against the british government. Also, The boston tea party could be concidered vandalism.


and the Boston Massacre could be considered a massacre...

[evil zach]

I didn't say it couldn't

[yeat182]

Originally posted by evil zach
I didn't say it couldn't

i know, i was just joking...

[The Nephilm]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
except the revolutionary war was a war, a declared war that did not kill thousands of civilians, and yes i am aware that we fought with a militia, but that is still considered military personel

um... actually quite a few thousand civilians died to win our independence.

the war was fought on american soil, in and around homes. I don't have the numbers, but I assure you it wasn't a civilian casualties clear war.

[Safetyin#]

Originally posted by evil zach
so was the revolutionary war

The steps leading up to the war could be seen as a "violent protest," but the war its self wasn't.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
um... actually quite a few thousand civilians died to win our independence.

the war was fought on american soil, in and around homes. I don't have the numbers, but I assure you it wasn't a civilian casualties clear war.
oh i realize that, but like every war there will be civilian casualties, and this was a war. so therefore it is not a violent protest

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
One could argue that the 9/11 attacks were part of a jihad.
want to fill me in on that?

[evil zach]

I rember a few years ago, befor 9/11, osama declared a jihad against the US and called all mulisms to arms. Therefor the 9/11 attacks could be considered an act of war in relation to the jihad.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
I rember a few years ago, befor 9/11, osama declared a jihad against the US and called all mulisms to arms. Therefor the 9/11 attacks could be considered an act of war in relation to the jihad.
um...no. yes he called a jihad, but someone also organized those protests as well. it legally wasnt a war, therfore a violent protest. and i dont know for sure, and i doubt you do, but is there a for sure on the connection between 9/11 and the orginal jihad? i dont really know, but still it isnt a declared war.