the OFFICIAL reasons why the redskins don't have a shot this year thread...

[mat1419]

begin

[Trainsaw]

ahahahhaha.

Where to start.

[mat1419]

one of their two best defensive players just left

the other will be in jail

[mat1419]

their quarterback is a 52 year old who can barely get out of bed in the morning

[FondestMemory]

i don't know man. they can carry over the momentum their high powered offense showed in the playoffs.

and not a chance in hell they get randle el.

[mat1419]

chris cooley does not count as a legitimate #2 receiver

[btbam > you]

no offense

[mat1419]

joe gibbs thinks its 1992

[mat1419]

genius dan snyder is so smart that even after the new CBA bailed them out, they have just about enough to draft the players to fill the holes from the ones they had to cut

[Trainsaw]

I hope they finish dead last.

[FondestMemory]

I hope they finish dead last.

won't be hard to do in that division.

[SePaMc]

offense? it needs to exist to win. not dominate...but exist.

[djUbilla]

There are no official reasons to say we don't have a shot this year.

Although this does a good job of calling out Mr. Farrell.

[mat1419]

There are no official reasons to say we don't have a shot this year.

Although this does a good job of calling out Mr. Farrell.
honestly, i think people who talk about how great their team's chances are when the free agents haven't been sign and the draft hasn't happened are just dumb. so much can happen in 5 month's it's crazy.

[kshtoinks12]

they're not the jets...


if only i could say that

[djUbilla]

honestly, i think people who talk about how great their team's chances are when the free agents haven't been sign and the draft hasn't happened are just dumb. so much can happen in 5 month's it's crazy.No, I agree. It's damned ridiculous. I hate the "guarentee"s and the "we will win" shit. It just makes fans look dumb.

[Trainsaw]

honestly, i think people who talk about how great their team's chances are when the free agents haven't been sign and the draft hasn't happened are just dumb. so much can happen in 5 month's it's crazy.
He's just an asshat who knows nothing about football other than "Oh we got a coach!". He can't really back up his claims with anything other than "We're going to win"

[mat1419]

He's just an asshat who knows nothing about football other than "Oh we got a coach!". He can't really back up his claims with anything other than "We're going to win"
i will admit...more than most, i think the guy is funny, i hope he keeps at it up to the season.

[Broken Parachute]

Reasons why the Redskins won't win the SuperBowl:

1) AFC --> Since when is the AFC not dominant?
2) NFC East --> Giants and Cowboys will probably be better than the Redskins.
3) Lavar Arrington --> Gone.
4) Mark Brunell --> Isn't he like 60?

[mat1419]

2) NFC East --> Giants and Cowboys will probably be better than the Redskins.

exactly. and of course the Eagles definately will be better than all 3.

[Broken Parachute]

exactly. and of course the Eagles definately will be better than all 3.

If the Giants can sign Sam Madison or Lavar Arrington, their defense takes a couple of steps up. That would be a huge kick in the ass to Washington.

[xearlynovemberx]

Reasons why the Redskins won't win the SuperBowl:

1) AFC --> Since when is the AFC not dominant?
2) NFC East --> Giants and Cowboys will probably be better than the Redskins.
3) Lavar Arrington --> Gone.
4) Mark Brunell --> Isn't he like 60?

giants sched is gunna be tough so i dont know if they will be better

[xearlynovemberx]

If the Giants can sign Sam Madison or Lavar Arrington, their defense takes a couple of steps up. That would be a huge kick in the ass to Washington.

they already signed madison

[mat1419]

they already signed madison
yeah, they already got Madison. I personally don't see Arrington happening, but Madison alone helps.

[xearlynovemberx]

yeah, they already got Madison. I personally don't see Arrington happening, but Madison alone helps.

hes much better then will i cant catch a fuckin ball if it fell right into my hands allen

[mat1419]

to the skins credit...they did sign the todd pinkston of the west, brandon lloyd. the kids good for a few circus catches, but if the 49ers don't even want you...

[Broken Parachute]

I didn't know they signed Madison. That's a big help. Their corners are horrible. They had no big game Corners. They had Curtis Deloatch covering Randy Moss when they played in Oakland.

One thing they could really use is another Offensive Lineman.

[Colin Farrell]

keep talking, and "calling me out", but the skins will be calling all of you out come september

[FondestMemory]

keep talking, and "calling me out", but the skins will be calling all of you out come september

that's fine, but you know the superbowl is in february, right?

[Colin Farrell]

that's fine, but you know the superbowl is in february, right?
no, no i didnt. i thought it was in mid august.


the quest begins in september.

[Trainsaw]

no, no i didnt. i thought it was in mid august.


the quest begins in september.
no you just got called out on your ignorant remark.

[Colin Farrell]

no you just got called out on your ignorant remark.
ok dude

[emoishardcore]

honestly, i think people who talk about how great their team's chances are when the free agents haven't been sign and the draft hasn't happened are just dumb. so much can happen in 5 month's it's crazy.

for one lavar arrington was not even an defensive option this year to begin with so i dont see him leaving being a huge deal.. i see it like getting rid of TO, it was good cause he was becomming a child. and yeah the whole jail thing will hurt but then again we went a majority of the season without carlos rogers so im calling it even.

the problem with the skins is the ownership and draft manipulation. we didnt need cambell when we couldve used a second good wideout...like maybe matt jones.....but to say the redskins ahve no hope is stupid..specially when you look at their division and how anything can happen. now if they were the texans and 49ers id change my story but the redskins will never be in a rebuilding process which always puts them in contention....while also scewing them in the future

[emoishardcore]

Reasons why the Redskins won't win the SuperBowl:

1) AFC --> Since when is the AFC not dominant?
2) NFC East --> Giants and Cowboys will probably be better than the Redskins.
3) Lavar Arrington --> Gone.
4) Mark Brunell --> Isn't he like 60?

ok we need to drop the lavar arrington thing even being an issue. we did fine without him....as a matter of fact i loved seeing the other lbs like marcus washington (who argueably could of made the pro bowl) and lamar marshall step up andplay harder then ive seen arrington play in a while.

and who cares about brunell's age...look at other greats. (jim kelly, steve young, joe montana, dan marino, john elway) and how they finished their careers. brunell is no where as good as any of them but he finished his last season better then any other hes had. until he gets injured or has to leave a game from "old man pains" this is just a mute arguement.

if you want brunell's age to be a problem then i guess you have no problem telling Bledsoe, Collins, Farve, Green, Kitna, McCnair, and Warner that their too old.

you could disect everyone one of those qbs and their careers and make an excsuse but plenty of teams would take most of those qbs.

[mat1419]

if you want brunell's age to be a problem then i guess you have no problem telling Bledsoe, Collins, Farve, Green, Kitna, McCnair, and Warner that their too old.


i would have very little problem telling them that

[Colin Farrell]

i would have very little problem telling them that
ahem....kitna is on the bench and other then him, did any of those qbs make the playoffs last year? did brunell?
i rest my case

[SoundTheAlarm]

2010 superbowl champs?


CARDNALS. Let them continute building.

[Colin Farrell]

2010 superbowl champs?


CARDNALS. Let them continute building.
im not trying to be a jackass, buts its more like building, did they ever have anythingf rom which after they lost it they would have to rebuild

[Freud]

bucs>skins

[Colin Farrell]

bucs>skins
20-10. that was the score wasnt it? we put up i think 80 yards of offense to beat you guys.

[Freud]

20-10. that was the score wasnt it? we put up i think 80 yards of offense to beat you guys.
yeah that was a horrible game. but still.

[mat1419]

ahem....kitna is on the bench and other then him, did any of those qbs make the playoffs last year? did brunell?
i rest my case
my reply was that i wouldn't have any problem telling any of them they're too old. it was your fellow skins fan that was comparing them to brunell.

[splitsecond]

Here is a reason: Because they are the Redskins.

[emoishardcore]

skins just aquired TE christian feuria and safety adam archuilta...so as i said earlier that takes care of a little of their secondary problems as well as their TE hole, but theys till have cooley as hb......now they just need another solid pass rush on theDefensive front line......dan snyders cap is infinite!!!!

[histrionics22]

The Cardinals will win more games this year than the Redskins.

[mat1419]

dan snyders cap is infinite!!!!
the redskins are being called the anti-model of how to run an nfl franchise

[Colin Farrell]

skins just aquired TE christian feuria and safety adam archuilta...so as i said earlier that takes care of a little of their secondary problems as well as their TE hole, but theys till have cooley as hb......now they just need another solid pass rush on theDefensive front line......dan snyders cap is infinite!!!!
they got andre carter

[Colin Farrell]

the redskins are being called the anti-model of how to run an nfl franchise
cause everyone knows matt 1419 is the authority when it comes to pro football.

[histrionics22]

by who? you?!

They were 7 million over the cap before Archuleta, yet they keep spending.

*edit This is still before they submit their restructured deals, but still.

[Colin Farrell]

They were 7 million over the cap before Archuleta, yet they keep spending.
obviously they know what they are doing

[Colin Farrell]

im done with this thread, im only posting int eh superbowl one from now on

[mat1419]

cause everyone knows matt 1419 is the authority when it comes to pro football.
indeed he is.

and their spending is the equivelant playing on a ledge, almost falling, getting saved, and going to right back to the ledge doing cartwheels. i can't wait to watch them fall.

[emoishardcore]

indeed he is.

and their spending is the equivelant playing on a ledge, almost falling, getting saved, and going to right back to the ledge doing cartwheels. i can't wait to watch them fall.

i dont see how overspending is hurting them YET. our country does deficit spending each year. i have yet to see how the cap has hurt the sins. as long as their fanbase is there and they keep sellig tickets, i dont see your point besides complaining like a slut.

[histrionics22]

i dont see how overspending is hurting them YET. our country does deficit spending each year. i have yet to see how the cap has hurt the sins. as long as their fanbase is there and they keep sellig tickets, i dont see your point besides complaining like a slut.

You overspend on mid-level talent for so many years only to be let down again and again, and even loyal fans like you and Ferrel will lose interest.

[mat1419]

i dont see how overspending is hurting them YET. our country does deficit spending each year. i have yet to see how the cap has hurt the sins. as long as their fanbase is there and they keep sellig tickets, i dont see your point besides complaining like a slut.
first off...wonderful counter argument with a personal attack.

second, the overspending hurts them because by overpaying for midlevel talent, rather than drafting, developing talent, and saving money like a well run team, they are destroying any chance they have at long term success. remember the 1997 florida marlins? well this is like that except less talent.

they were bailed out with the CBA got signed. they were amazingly close to a disaster, and got lucky. then, rather than learn from their previous mistake, they decide to blow more money and faster on anything that they can get.

there are a lot of teams running model organizations, capping value, drafting well, signing with their surplus of cap space when the time is right.

then there's the redskins who try to keep buying in the short term to try and fill spots, regardless or chemistry or character, and are going to suffer in the long term. see new york knicks.

[Colin Farrell]

first off...wonderful counter argument with a personal attack.

second, the overspending hurts them because by overpaying for midlevel talent, rather than drafting, developing talent, and saving money like a well run team, they are destroying any chance they have at long term success. remember the 1997 florida marlins? well this is like that except less talent.

they were bailed out with the CBA got signed. they were amazingly close to a disaster, and got lucky. then, rather than learn from their previous mistake, they decide to blow more money and faster on anything that they can get.

there are a lot of teams running model organizations, capping value, drafting well, signing with their surplus of cap space when the time is right.

then there's the redskins who try to keep buying in the short term to try and fill spots, regardless or chemistry or character, and are going to suffer in the long term. see new york knicks.
we are very close to being where we need to be, snyder is a very aggressive business man. to be honest he has personally screwed my father over in a business deal before, but i still dont hate him because the man will do whatever it takes to win, he is a cutthroat business man and a cutthroat owner.

and there was no personal attack earlier so relax.

[histrionics22]

the man will do whatever it takes to win

If by win you mean overpay mediocre talent for a mediocre team, then yes I agree he will do whatever it takes to win.

[Colin Farrell]

If by win you mean overpay mediocre talent for a mediocre team, then yes I agree he will do whatever it takes to win.
thats not what i mean

[Colin Farrell]

i don't know man. they can carry over the momentum their high powered offense showed in the playoffs.

and not a chance in hell they get randle el.
good call bro

[histrionics22]

good call bro

He didn't think Snyder was dumb enough to giveh im that much money. I mean Randle El turned down a 6 year 18 mil offer from Chicago. 6 Years at 18 mil with an 8 million signing bonus. What did the Redskins give him? 7 years at $31 with 11.5 guaranteed. Give me a break. They probably could have gotten him for 2 million cheaper.

[Colin Farrell]

He didn't think Snyder was dumb enough to giveh im that much money. I mean Randle El turned down a 6 year 18 mil offer from Chicago. 6 Years at 18 mil with an 8 million signing bonus. What did the Redskins give him? 7 years at $31 with 11.5 guaranteed. Give me a break. They probably could have gotten him for 2 million cheaper.
why are you so bitter?

[histrionics22]

why are you so bitter?

Not bitter. Just think its funny that people think these signings make them an automatic contender.