Official NFL Free Agency Discussion

[still_life]

A lot of deals going through, so no need to clutter the forum with so many threads. Plus I could use this to update my Madden roster.

I'll just add anything I see, even if it's not officially 100% done

Arizona:
Edgerrin James, RB
Kendrick Clancy, DT
Milford Brown, OG

Atlanta:
John Abraham, DE
Lawyer Milloy, S
Chris Crocker, S
John Leake, LB

Baltimore:
Trevor Pryce, DE
Mike Anderson, RB
Justin Bannan, DT
Gary Stills, LB
Corey Ivy, CB

Buffalo:
Robert Royal, TE
Larry Tripplet, DT
Andre' Davis, WR
Matt Bowen, S
Craig Nall, QB
Melvin Fowler, OL

Carolina:
Maake Kemoeatu, DT
Justin Hartwig, C
Damione Lewis, DT
Shaun Williams, S
Kevin McCadam, S
Keyshawn Johnson, WR

Chicago:
Dante Wesley, CB
Brian Griese, QB

Cincinnati:
Dexter Jackson, S
Antonio Chatman, WR

Cleveland:
LeCharles Bentley, C/G
Joe Jurevicius, WR
Kevin Shaffer, OT
Ted Washington, NT
Dave Zastidul, P
Willie McGinest, LB/DE
Bob Hallen, OL
Darnell Dinkins, TE

Dallas:
Terrell Owens, WR
Mike Vanderjagt, PK
Kyle Kosier, G/T
Aki Ayodele, LB
Jason Fabini, RT
Ryan Hannam, TE
Rocky Boiman, LB

Denver:
Nate Webster, LB
Kenard Lang, DE
Amon Gordon, DL

Detroit:
Jon Kitna, QB
Josh McCown, QB
Corey Bradford, WR
Dan Campbell, TE
Arlen Harris, RB
Paris Lenon, LB
Rex Tucker, G
Barry Stokes, OL

Green Bay:
Marquand Manuel, S
Ryan Pickett, DT
Tracy White, LB
Tom Arth, QB
Ben Taylor, LB
Billy Cundiff, PK

Houston:
Anthony Weaver, DE
Jameel Cook, FB
Sage Rosenfels, QB
Kevin Walter, WR
Jeb Putzier, TE
Sam Cowart, LB
Mike Flanagan, C

Indianapolis:
Adam Vinatieri, PK

Jacksonville:
Brian Williams, CB
Mike Williams, T
Stockar McDougle, T
Brian Jones, TE

Kansas City:
Quentin Griffin, RB

Miami:
Daunte Culpepper, QB
Andre' Goodman, CB
Sedrick Hodge, LB
L.J. Shelton, T
Renaldo Hill, DB
Kelly Campbell, WR
Will Allen, CB
Justin Peelle, TE
Fred Beasley, FB

Minnesota:
Ryan Longwell, PK
Ben Leber, LB
Chester Taylor, RB
Steve Hutchinson, LG
Tony Richardson, FB
Mike McMahon, QB
Tank Williams, S
DeQuincy Scott, DL

New England:
Reche Caldwell, WR
Jeff Roehl, OL

New Orleans:
Drew Brees, QB
Scott Fujita, LB
Michael Bennett, RB
Anthony Simmons, LB
Omar Stoutmire, S
Dwayne Ledford, OL

NY Giants:
Sam Madison, CB
R.W. McQuarters, CB
Jason Bell, CB
Quentin Harris, S
Brandon Williams, CB
Will Demps, S

NY Jets:
Matt Chatham, LB
Kimo Von Oelhoffen, DE
Patrick Ramsey, QB
Tim Dwight, WR
Michael Warren, FB

Oakland:
Aaron Brooks, QB
Henri Crockett, LB
Tyrone Poole, CB
Duane Starks, CB

Philadelphia:
Matt Schobel, TE
Shawn Barber, LB
Darren Howard, DE
Jeff Garcia, QB
Jabar Gaffney, WR

Pittsburgh:
Ryan Clark, S
Brandon Joe, FB
Rodney Bailey, DE

San Diego:
Marlon McCree, S
Aaron Shea, TE

San Francisco:
Antonio Bryant, WR
Bryan Gilmore, WR
Walt Harris, CB
Larry Allen, LG

Seattle:
Julian Peterson, LB
Ran Carthon, RB
Tom Ashworth, OT
Russell Davis, DT
Will Heller, TE

St. Louis:
La'Roi Glover, DT
Corey Chavous, S
Will Witherspoon, LB
Fakhir Brown, CB
Gus Frerotte, QB
Tony Fisher, RB
Matt Turk, P

Tampa Bay:
Toniu Fonoti, G

Tennessee:
David Thorton, LB
David Givens, WR
Kevin Mawae, C
Chris Hope, S

Washington:
Brandon Lloyd, WR
Antwaan Randle El, WR
Christian Fauria, TE
Adam Archuleta, S
Andre Carter, LB
Todd Collins, QB
Tyson Walter, C

[mat1419]

philly got barber too if you want to count that

[still_life]

philly got barber too if you want to count that

I was going to, then I thought about the signings like La'Roi Glover to St. Louis, and didn't feel like looking back for last weeks news. Maybe I will still do that though.

[mat1419]

I was going to, then I thought about the signings like La'Roi Glover to St. Louis, and didn't feel like looking back for last weeks news. Maybe I will still do that though.
there weren't that many, and none of them were really groundbreaking...no need to stress

[sundaysetsashes]

what are your sources? im not doubting you at all. but i have ESPNinsider and i was wondering if thats where your getting this from

[mat1419]

what are your sources? im not doubting you at all. but i have ESPNinsider and i was wondering if thats where your getting this from
espn is actually pretty far behind. i'm assuming he uses nfl.com since they've been good at updating, and one or two of the rumor sites (profootballtalk, etc)

[itsjdiggity]

i didn't know the Titans were in the running for Culpepper

[still_life]

Adam Schefter has a good update page on nfl.com
espn
PFT
kffl.com

[justinevans]

That was bullshit with fucking Bentley. Supposedly the Eagles are pretty irate.

[justinevans]

and they got jurevicious too. what the fuck. eagles are acting like a fucking joke this year. no visitors? are you kidding me.

[justinevans]

minnesota just re-signed koren robinson

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Buffalo signed Larry Tripplett (DT, Colts).

[FondestMemory]

minnesota signed chester taylor to four year deal.

[itsjdiggity]

apparently on ESPN insider, Raiders and Titans are out of the Culpepper chase

[Dirty Ernie]

and they got jurevicious too. what the fuck. eagles are acting like a fucking joke this year. no visitors? are you kidding me.

all i've been reading in the philly papers the past couple days is that bentley was as good as signed the minute free agency started........

[still_life]

Updated

The Triplett and Taylor signings are very good moves, but Robert Royal for 5 years/$10 million is a joke for Buffalo at TE. The guy's pretty much a scrub. Not sure what they're thinking with that one.

[Drew Beringer]

Good for the Packers, signing Manuel. Decent pickup. They also resigned Kampman which is great. And Longwell is gone, sweeet!

[LeftWideOpen]

Good for the Packers, signing Manuel. Decent pickup. They also resigned Kampman which is great. And Longwell is gone, sweeet!

green bay is putting together a good offseason so far. they need to upgrade the OL and WR if Walker leaves, but they could come back and compete in the NFC North if Favre comes back and has some help. Re-signing Ahman Green was a smart move I think.

[Drew Beringer]

green bay is putting together a good offseason so far. they need to upgrade the OL and WR if Walker leaves, but they could come back and compete in the NFC North if Favre comes back and has some help. Re-signing Ahman Green was a smart move I think.

Definitely, one year deal is the way to go with him. Last year he didn't do so well, but we have seen what he has done in the past, so he gets one year to prove himself again.

[LeftWideOpen]

Definitely, one year deal is the way to go with him. Last year he didn't do so well, but we have seen what he has done in the past, so he gets one year to prove himself again.

davenport is gone, right?

[Drew Beringer]

davenport is gone, right?

Not gone yet, he's a FA.

[LeftWideOpen]

Not gone yet, he's a FA.

I'd hold on to him too ..he could be effective if healthy. If they dont bring him back though and I'm a team like Arizona, San Fransisco, Baltimore or even New England ...I bring him in as a backup w/ a legit chance to win the starting job. He's got that kind of talent if he's healthy.

[Drew Beringer]

I'd hold on to him too ..he could be effective if healthy. If they dont bring him back though and I'm a team like Arizona, San Fransisco, Baltimore or even New England ...I bring him in as a backup w/ a legit chance to win the starting job. He's got that kind of talent if he's healthy.

Yeah, he's a really good runner. I hope the Packers can resign him, but I think he wants to be a starter so I doubt he will back in GB.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I declare the Browns the early winners.

I really like the young talent on that team's offense - Suggs, Winslow, Braylon Edwards - and I think Charlie Frye has what it takes to win games in the NFL....if there's talent around him.

Frye's more of a game managing QB, but shit, adding a Pro Bowl center to protect him can't hurt the kid's confidence.

[LeftWideOpen]

I declare the Browns the early winners.

I really like the young talent on that team's offense - Suggs, Winslow, Braylon Edwards - and I think Charlie Frye has what it takes to win games in the NFL....if there's talent around him.

Frye's more of a game managing QB, but shit, adding a Pro Bowl center to protect him can't hurt the kid's confidence.

crennel is a hell of a coach ..but they still need to upgrade on D before they can realistically compete for a playoff spot. I think they are a year away, but they are building a great foundation.

[mat1419]

It was being reported a few days ago that Drew Brees was a lock to be a Saint. Before he signed, he wanted to check in with the Dolphins, and their last gasp effort has impressed him enough to think about it. My question to Drew is, with similar money offers from both teams, why the fuck would you ever think about going to New Orleans.

A solid, but banged up running back and a moron/incosistant wide receiver are the two best parts of the team. They aren't sure where they're going to play after next hurricane season, the city is in shambles. It's sad, but realistically, there's nothing remotely appealing about that place.

The you have Miami who reeled off the best second half of last season behind a bonehead QB. They have a stud running back, stud tight end, stud wide out, and a great defense all waiting for you. And you're in Miami for Christ's sake. Please Drew...this really shouldn't be that hard man.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

It was being reported a few days ago that Drew Brees was a lock to be a Saint. Before he signed, he wanted to check in with the Dolphins, and their last gasp effort has impressed him enough to think about it. My question to Drew is, with similar money offers from both teams, why the fuck would you ever think about going to New Orleans.

A solid, but banged up running back and a moron/incosistant wide receiver are the two best parts of the team. They aren't sure where they're going to play after next hurricane season, the city is in shambles. It's sad, but realistically, there's nothing remotely appealing about that place.

The you have Miami who reeled off the best second half of last season behind a bonehead QB. They have a stud running back, stud tight end, stud wide out, and a great defense all waiting for you. And you're in Miami for Christ's sake. Please Drew...this really shouldn't be that hard man.
Yeah. Please go to New Orleans. I don't need to face Brees, Pennington/Ramsey/possible drafted QB here and Brady 6 times a year.

[LeftWideOpen]

Yeah. Please go to New Orleans. I don't need to face Brees, Pennington/Ramsey/possible drafted QB here and Brady 6 times a year.

yes, please go to NO. I like the Pats having a strangle-hold and I don't need Miami fucking that up. I'm not a big fan of Brees but hes obviously an upgrade from Gussy Boy.

[wakeupgomer]

apparently on ESPN insider, Raiders and Titans are out of the Culpepper chase

And Miami, also, I hear. I'd like to see Randy and Dante reunited. And maybe Mike Tice can even show up for the party.

Few other things I want opinions on:

-Joe Jurevicius FINALLY gets a long term contract (albeit in Cleveland)

-Denver released Mike Anderson and are interested in another RB? Wow.

-The Vikes signed Chester Taylor; what about the other three members of the RB by committee (Mewelde Moore, Moe Williams, Michael Bennett, etc.?)

- Last, Edge in Arizona...J.J. Arrington that big of a bust?

[LeftWideOpen]

And Miami, also, I hear. I'd like to see Randy and Dante reunited. And maybe Mike Tice can even show up for the party.

Few other things I want opinions on:

-Joe Jurevicius FINALLY gets a long term contract (albeit in Cleveland)

-Denver released Mike Anderson and are interested in another RB? Wow.

-The Vikes signed Chester Taylor; what about the other three members of the RB by committee (Mewelde Moore, Moe Williams, Michael Bennett, etc.?)

- Last, Edge in Arizona...J.J. Arrington that big of a bust?

Joe deserved that deal. He's been productive and he's had a lot go on off the field. I'm happy for him.

Denver always looks like they don't know what they're doing, but then they always come out and play well. I wouldn't doubt Shanahan given his track record.

As for Arizona, signing James would obviously be a good move. If you put him around Warner w/ Boldin and Fitzgerald already there ...you got yourself a playoff contender. Not even Kurt could fuck that up. As for J.J, I think Denny Green reached bigtime when he chose him and he knows that. At least he isn't stubborn.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

- Last, Edge in Arizona...J.J. Arrington that big of a bust?

Arrington said he "Didn't like to get hit"

You can't have an RB in the NFL that shies away from contact and that team might be a good RB away from pushing for a playoff spot -

The defense is decent. The WR's are amazing. All Warner needs to do is have a decent season by getting those guys the ball and Arizona's D needs to overachieve again and they might have a team with an over .500 record.

[mat1419]

it's being said now Brees only expressed so much interest in NO to drive up his market value...which makes me very happy to know he really wasn't set on going there.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Justin Hartwig (C, Titans) signed with the Panthers. fuck. I wanted him to be a Bill.

[justinevans]

Arizona still doesn't have an O-line.

[mat1419]

Arizona still doesn't have an O-line.
true...but it looks like they just wrapped you Edge

Browns keep throwing money around and got all 400 years and pounds of Ted Washington

[justinevans]

yup edge is a cardinal.

[FondestMemory]

i'm excited about the cardinals now.

with those two wideouts and the edge. hopefully warner can be warner of old. they'll be fun to watch at the very least.

it'd still be cool to see them make a run at culpepper though. he'd be perfect there. even if he needs more time for his knee, ya still have warner. and warner isn't the long term solution. daunte, edge, boldin and fitzgerald could be tough for years to come if that happens.

[Drew Beringer]

It'll be fun reading the Indianapolis papers tomorrow.

[justinevans]

i'm excited about the cardinals now.

with those two wideouts and the edge. hopefully warner can be warner of old. they'll be fun to watch at the very least.

it'd still be cool to see them make a run at culpepper though. he'd be perfect there. even if he needs more time for his knee, ya still have warner. and warner isn't the long term solution. daunte, edge, boldin and fitzgerald could be tough for years to come if that happens.

and still no o-line.

[still_life]

Wow, no more triplets in Indy. I'm glad actually, because I'd like to see Edge even try and come close to 1500 yards in an offense without Manning, Harrison, Wayne, and others. Then again, teams will want to stop the pass a lot with Fitz and Boldin (and if they were to get Randle El like rumored). Tough call, but I'd expect a drop in Edge's numbers.

Colts need to draft Maroney now.

[mat1419]

vikings just signed Steve Hutchinson to an offer sheet...I think the hawks get a chance to match, but if it's not in their price range, that great left side is losing it's guard

[mat1419]

Wow, no more triplets in Indy. I'm glad actually, because I'd like to see Edge even try and come close to 1500 yards in an offense without Manning, Harrison, Wayne, and others. Then again, teams will want to stop the pass a lot with Fitz and Boldin (and if they were to get Randle El like rumored). Tough call, but I'd expect a drop in Edge's numbers.

Colts need to draft Maroney now.
i think he'll be fine if they upgrade the line a little. boldin and fitzgerald can stretch the field just as much if not more than the colts receivers. if dennis green sets it up right, edge can get 1500 just as easy and a boatload more TD's.

[LeftWideOpen]

i think he'll be fine if they upgrade the line a little. boldin and fitzgerald can stretch the field just as much if not more than the colts receivers. if dennis green sets it up right, edge can get 1500 just as easy and a boatload more TD's.

yep. execution will be key, but the WR's are going to get just as much attention as Harrison and Wayne did.

[ThriftWhore]

Browns are easily the most improved team. Their offense is looking pretty damn good now, Droughns at running back and Bryant, Edwards, Jurevicious at WR. Gonna be tough covering those three guys, if they keep Bryant.

[ThriftWhore]

if dennis green sets it up right, edge can get 1500 just as easy and a boatload more TD's.
even if he doesn't upgrade the line, edge will still get over 1000 yards, he's a great back regardless. now if he gets a line in front of him, who knows what he could be capable of.

but dennis green isn't an idiot, i'm sure he'll use edge to his full potential.

[Colin Farrell]

why would edge goto the cardinals?? they are horrible, its sad that he would take an extra mil and have no shot at a championship whereas if he staayed in indy for less money they very wewll could win it all next year.

[Colin Farrell]

skins got brandon lloyd, thats pretty good too

[FondestMemory]

Browns are easily the most improved team. Their offense is looking pretty damn good now, Droughns at running back and Bryant, Edwards, Jurevicious at WR. Gonna be tough covering those three guys, if they keep Bryant.

they're not gonna keep bryant. and even if they did, their passing game isn't gonna strike fear into many cause you're still gonna have frye or dilfer (probably frye) throwing the ball to them.

they've made the most additions, but they have a ton of holes. i wouldn't call them most improved yet. most active, yes. but they still have a long long way to go.

[FondestMemory]

why would edge goto the cardinals?? they are horrible, its sad that he would take an extra mil and have no shot at a championship whereas if he staayed in indy for less money they very wewll could win it all next year.

they could have very well won it all every year for the past five. i think going to arizona's a good move for him.

[still_life]

I'll be really surprised if Edge has 1300 yards rushing next year. For one, Denny Green is a dumb coach that gets very pass happy in games, and his teams have only finished in the top 10 in rushing 3 times in 12 seasons (6 1000 yard rushers in 12 seasons). Kurt Warner isn't a great audible QB, and the reason Edge could pick up so many 5-10 yard gains with little contact is because of Manning changing the play to get them in a better play. For where they are in the draft, I'm surprised they wouldn't have gone with DeAngelo or Lendale instead of 4 years/$30 million to a RB that's getting up there in age.

[still_life]

they could have very well won it all every year for the past five. i think going to arizona's a good move for him.

Yeah and Edge's pathetic rushing efforts usually killed that dream.

[FondestMemory]

For where they are in the draft, I'm surprised they wouldn't have gone with DeAngelo or Lendale instead of 4 years/$30 million to a RB that's getting up there in age.

they just took a young rb last year. even though he turned out to be worthless, using another high draft pick on the same position gets you nowhere. then you have two young running backs instead of a nice talent at another position. that's the smart thing to do, unless of course millen is in charge of things. edge is a good fit for this team.

[still_life]

Randle El to Washington

Wow, now they have Moss, ARE, and Lloyd.

[still_life]

they just took a young rb last year. even though he turned out to be worthless, using another high draft pick on the same position gets you nowhere. then you have two young running backs instead of a nice talent at another position. that's the smart thing to do, unless of course millen is in charge of things. edge is a good fit for this team.

DeAngelo Williams won't bust, that should have been their pick. Who else would they get? I heard Vince Young falling to them, and that would be a disaster.

[FondestMemory]

Randle El to Washington

Wow, now they have Moss, ARE, and Lloyd.

fuck. i'm one of the few that wanted him to stay in pittsburgh. i'm surprised he didn't go to chicago. i was under the impression that was his top choice.

good for washington though. i hope having a #1 and two #3's works out for them.

[LeftWideOpen]

Randle El to Washington

Wow, now they have Moss, ARE, and Lloyd.

they are going to need them all because Brunell is a hack. He's going to breakdown sooner or later.

[ThriftWhore]

Going to be awfully tough to cover those muh' fuckas.

[still_life]

He turned down 6 years/$18 million and $8 million to sign from Chicago.

Brunell's a solid veteran, who had a Pro Bowl year last year (Vick should have never made it). Al Saunders will make this thing work with all the weapons they have. And you know the defense will be good.

[ThriftWhore]

fuck. i'm one of the few that wanted him to stay in pittsburgh. i'm surprised he didn't go to chicago. i was under the impression that was his top choice.

good for washington though. i hope having a #1 and two #3's works out for them.
he turned down an offer from the bears last i had heard. good for washington, as long as brunell can throw the ball 50 yards down the field.

[still_life]

You put Moss, Randle El, Lloyd, and Patten at receiver, Portis in the backfield, that's one of the most dangerous offenses now. I don't know if Saunders is into trick plays, but this just screams hand-off to Randle El to the right, throw smoke screen back to Santana, automatic TD.

[Colin Farrell]

Randle El to Washington

Wow, now they have Moss, ARE, and Lloyd.
really?!?! we did get him? i called htis in another thread and someone said there was no way it was going to happen......looks like my predictions are already started to come true

[ThriftWhore]

You put Moss, Randle El, Lloyd, and Patten at receiver, Portis in the backfield, that's one of the most dangerous offenses now. I don't know if Saunders is into trick plays, but this just screams hand-off to Randle El to the right, throw smoke screen back to Santana, automatic TD.
easily one of the most dangerous, but you forgot chris cooley at TE. that guy is gonna explode next year.

is jason campbell the qb of the future of this team once brunell falls apart?

[still_life]

He has to be the QB of the future since they used up basically 2 1st round picks to get him, but he's not ready yet, and might not even make a start in 06.

[Colin Farrell]

dude our offense is potent as shit now, there is no reason we will not make it all the way except for brunells punkass. cooley shouldve been a probowler, moss was, randle el was i think, lloyd is young and up and coming, and portis is awesome. good o line too

[Colin Farrell]

and yes campbell is set to start maybet later his year. definitely next year

[Vincewithouthee]

You put Moss, Randle El, Lloyd, and Patten at receiver, Portis in the backfield, that's one of the most dangerous offenses now. I don't know if Saunders is into trick plays, but this just screams hand-off to Randle El to the right, throw smoke screen back to Santana, automatic TD.

Wow. Oh well. The Steelers now need to draft a WR or sign one.

I still say we draft a player like Michael Robinson in the draft. He's a Randle El type player.

[Vincewithouthee]

Edge to the Cards now? Wow. I'm kinda suprised. I don't see how he's going to do that well though. They're a pass heavy offense. But the Cards now have a shitload of potential to breakout next season. (IMO) They have the best WR set in the league, and they're not even in their primes yet. They just need a better offensive line and their set pretty well. Warner just needs to stay healthy and not fuck up.

[ThriftWhore]

dude our offense is potent as shit now, there is no reason we will not make it all the way except for brunells punkass. cooley shouldve been a probowler, moss was, randle el was i think, lloyd is young and up and coming, and portis is awesome. good o line too
randle el wasn't. no room for #2 receivers on the AFC pro bowl team with names like Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson and Chris Chambers(Rod Smith was there also, but I don't really consider him upper tier of talent)

[ThriftWhore]

Edge to the Cards now? Wow. I'm kinda suprised. I don't see how he's going to do that well though. They're a pass heavy offense. But the Cards now have a shitload of potential to breakout next season. (IMO) They have the best WR set in the league, and they're not even in their primes yet. They just need a better offensive line and their set pretty well. Warner just needs to stay healthy and not fuck up.
I see the Cardinals next year being like the Cheifs, Colts and Rams of few years ago where they have to score 42 just to be in the game to make up for their defense.

[still_life]

dude our offense is potent as shit now, there is no reason we will not make it all the way except for brunells punkass.

Well I think the QB is pretty important, don't you? If Brunell goes into that dead deer mode like he did in the playoffs, and the season before that, this thing could be a bust.

[still_life]

I see the Cardinals next year being like the Cheifs, Colts and Rams of few years ago where they have to score 42 just to be in the game to make up for their defense.

Yeah, though this is the first season I'll ever go into saying "it's going to be fun watching Arizona games".

[still_life]

Man SF might have to draft Vernon Davis, Chad Jackson, or some WR with that high pick (or just trade down), because they are fucking worthless at wideout now.

Arnaz Battle
Otis Amey
Jason McAddley
Rasheed Marshall

And I don't even know what ultra scrubs are behind those sorry sacks of shit.

[still_life]

And it should be noted Buffalo signed away Andre' Davis from the Patriots. Givens should be gone soon, and so might be Dwight and Bethel Johnson, so there's another team really strapped at WR.

[Colin Farrell]

Well I think the QB is pretty important, don't you? If Brunell goes into that dead deer mode like he did in the playoffs, and the season before that, this thing could be a bust.
this is very true....but hey, we can always put randle el at qb now, right?

[ThriftWhore]

this is very true....but hey, we can always put randle el at qb now, right?
hahaha. i would if i were the skins.

I don't know, but this year has all the makings of Brunell getting hurt with Ramsey going to the Jets, Campbell gets thrown in and all hell breaks loose.

[Trainsaw]

James is an idiot to sign w/ the Cardinals, guess he doesn't want a ring, ever.

[ThriftWhore]

James is an idiot to sign w/ the Cardinals, guess he doesn't want a ring, ever.
May have been one of the only teams willing to pay him what he wanted.

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports Arizona Cardinals RB Edgerrin James' four-year contract worth $30 million has the following breakdown:

James receives an immediate signing bonus of $7 million and an additional roster bonus of $4.5 million later this week. James' base salaries are $3.25 million for 2006, $5.25 million (2007), $5 million (2008) and $5 million (2009), according to sources. The deal will pay James $20 million over the first two years. By comparison, the $62 million contract signed last week by RB Shaun Alexander with the Seattle Seahawks pays $18.5 million in the first two years.

[Colin Farrell]

hahaha. i would if i were the skins.

I don't know, but this year has all the makings of Brunell getting hurt with Ramsey going to the Jets, Campbell gets thrown in and all hell breaks loose.
yeah i could see that OR maybe a season reminiscent of when bledsoe went down and brady came in and marched them through the postseason.....dont think brandon trainer would agree wiht me on that one though

[still_life]

Rams add Witherspoon from Carolina (6 years/$33 million). Rams defense should be good for a change. Haslett makes a better DC than HC

[Trainsaw]

Oh well he can sit w/ a mountain of money, when he's not remembered 10 years from now.

[Trainsaw]

yeah i could see that OR maybe a season reminiscent of when bledsoe went down and brady came in and marched them through the postseason.....dont think brandon trainer would agree wiht me on that one though
Its not, your team has about as much depth at QB as a kiddie pool. Face it, your QB is going to blow your season.

[Colin Farrell]

Its not, your team has about as much depth at QB as a kiddie pool. Face it, your QB is going to blow your season.
i agree that brunell is some shit....i hated him the first year he replaced ramsey but then last year he showed flashes of the old probowl brunell, then towards the end he totally sputtered out. my only qualm wiht gibbs is his unflinching devotion to brunell, i just think that either brunell will return to form for thsi season or gibbs will figure out another route to go. one that will work

[fiddypercent]

steve hutchinson is going to the vikings

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2365600

but the hawks get 7 days to match the offer.

[fromwithin]

wow i can't believe that he went to arizona. theyre going to finally make the playoffs provided he doesnt get hurt. i think they can make some real rumblings and now be top 5 in offense. theyve probably got the best receiving duo in the nfl combined with kurt warner and now edge. their defense might be a little shaky but with all those offensive weapons if they just allow less points then the offense is capable of scoring they could be a legitimate contender.

[ThriftWhore]

wow i can't believe that he went to arizona. theyre going to finally make the playoffs provided he doesnt get hurt. i think they can make some real rumblings and now be top 5 in offense. theyve probably got the best receiving duo in the nfl combined with kurt warner and now edge. their defense might be a little shaky but with all those offensive weapons if they just allow less points then the offense is capable of scoring they could be a legitimate contender.
they won't make the playoffs with edge. they'd have to win the division to get in, and they won't beat out the seahawks. their defense is more than "a little shaky" as well.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Peace out Randle El.

You were an exciting player to watch over the past years, you've helped us out greatly.

Have a good time with The Skins.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

they won't make the playoffs with edge. they'd have to win the division to get in, and they won't beat out the seahawks. their defense is more than "a little shaky" as well.

Provided Edge doesn't get hurt? Hah. Providing Warner and whoever other back up quarterback doesn't get hurt.

I've always been a fan of this team, and they've made some great moves the past couple years. But Warner is old and he's turned into a flop. They can't go anywhere with him.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Pittsburgh failed to picked up Givens and Jurevicius. Both I believe ended up in Cleveland which makes me angry.

Then they let Randle El slip by..

Both moves were stupid, but if only one of them happened then we would have been fine. But now, we gotta get off our asses and do something.

Let's hope I am correct when I stated Quincy Morgan and Cedrick Wilson pick up the slack. That is...if we resign Quincy Morgan.

[ThriftWhore]

Provided Edge doesn't get hurt? Hah. Providing Warner and whoever other back up quarterback doesn't get hurt.

I've always been a fan of this team, and they've made some great moves the past couple years. But Warner is old and he's turned into a flop. They can't go anywhere with him.
Don't tell me, tell the whack-o who said he thinks they'll make the playoffs this year.

[Dirty Ernie]

eagles are close with howard from new orleans, he should take pressure of the freak and the secondary

and what the hell are the niners doing for alex smith?

[fromwithin]

Don't tell me, tell the whack-o who said he thinks they'll make the playoffs this year.
indy and the chiefs both had shitty defenses and they were over .500 and one made the playoffs. if you have an explosive offense it can compensate for a bad defense sometimes.

on the opposite end of the spectrum the bears last year had a horrible offense but a great defense and somehow they managed to win a bunch of games and get in the playoffs.

[bjam12]

someone show me a link to the Randle El signing, I don't think it's official yet.

[Dirty Ernie]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2365504

espn.com headline

[bjam12]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2365504

espn.com headline

thanks.

[still_life]

Wow, $31 million and $11.5 in bonuses for Randle El. That's ridiculous for a WR that's a very good #3, shaky #2.

[Colin Farrell]

what do you expect from daniel snyder?

[ThriftWhore]

and what the hell are the niners doing for alex smith?
From KFFL:
Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports free agent WR Antonio Bryant (Browns) is in San Francisco visiting with the San Francisco 49ers. ESPN.com's John Clayton adds the two sides are trying to reach a contract agreement.

Antonio Bryant is a great receiver in my opinion, now its up to Smith to get the ball to him.

[ThriftWhore]

Mike Anderson signed a four-year, $8 million dollar deal(with a $2million signing bonus) with the Ravens. So Jamal Lewis is obviously on his way out.

[FondestMemory]

Mike Anderson signed a four-year, $8 million dollar deal(with a $2million signing bonus) with the Ravens. So Jamal Lewis is obviously on his way out.

he was on his way out anyways. he's meeting with denver on monday.

[ThriftWhore]

he was on his way out anyways. he's meeting with denver on monday.
Jamal Lewis in the Denver run scheme is scary, as long as he's paid well.

[still_life]

Mike Anderson joins the Baltimore criminals. A pretty good pick up for them.

[still_life]

Adam Schefter - LaVar Arrington is a Giant now.

[ThriftWhore]

Adam Schefter - LaVar Arrington is a Giant now.
seriously? where'd you see this?

[ThriftWhore]

Jets are meeting with Jon Kitna, along with Kimo von Oelhoffen on Monday. While the Redskins met with John Abraham of the Jets on Sunday Night. Not sure if the draft picks the Redskins have will be enough for the Jets to trade Abraham.

Gotta love what the 'Skins are tryin to do.

[still_life]

seriously? where'd you see this?

NFL Network

[ThriftWhore]

NFL Network
oh man, I hope so. I hope so.

With all these moves, and all the rumored moves by Dallas, the NFC East is gonna be ultra-competitive. As long as the old guys at QB in Dallas and Washington don't fall apart, and Eli grows up a bit more.

[Doug]

Mike Anderson joins the Baltimore criminals. A pretty good pick up for them.

except mike anderson is a product of the denver system and he'll probably suck in baltimore as much as jamal lewis did last year since he's a shittier version of the same type of back.

[itsjdiggity]

Jim Wyatt, of the Tennessean, reports the Tennessee Titans will visit with free agent LB David Thornton (Colts). He is expected to arrive in Nashville either Saturday evening, March 11 or Sunday, March 12.

[itsjdiggity]

Titans | Team will meet with Givens
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:42:03 -0800

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the Tennessee Titans will meet with free agent WR David Givens (Patriots) Monday, March 13. Agent Brad Blank confirmed the visit.

[ThriftWhore]

Titans | Team will meet with Givens
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:42:03 -0800

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the Tennessee Titans will meet with free agent WR David Givens (Patriots) Monday, March 13. Agent Brad Blank confirmed the visit.
Good move for them if they do it. Give someone for McNair/Vince Young to throw the ball downfield to besides Drew Bennett. They have Erron Kinney at TE also, plus Ben Troupe. They need a reliable 1200yd+ season running back and then they could compete offensively with anybody. Just in a tough division with Indy and Jacksonville on top of the Titans.

[bigmike]

indy and the chiefs both had shitty defenses and they were over .500 and one made the playoffs. if you have an explosive offense it can compensate for a bad defense sometimes.

on the opposite end of the spectrum the bears last year had a horrible offense but a great defense and somehow they managed to win a bunch of games and get in the playoffs.
oh really? indy had a shitty defense? I was unaware that 11th in the league in total defense, 2nd to only the bears in scoring defense, and a +12 in turnover differential, good for about 4th best in the league, was shitty.

also, i don't believe the cardinals line is anywhere near as good as indy's thus this "explosive" offense won't be near the colts or chiefs or the rams from a few years ago.

[Trainsaw]

I don't see how the cowboys aren't going to sign T.O. now, w/ Arrington in NY, and Randel El in Washington.

[mat1419]

except mike anderson is a product of the denver system and he'll probably suck in baltimore as much as jamal lewis did last year since he's a shittier version of the same type of back.
that's what i was saying when the Eagles were talking about him...he's never proven he can run behind a different line and that Baltimore line couldn't even block for Lewis

[mat1419]

what really is baffling me, is a week ago, teams were forced into a sudden reality that they'd mismanaged their money, and with the salary cap, we're faced with massive cuts that would have decimated a lot of them. things work out and the salary cap is adjusted a bit. and teams start throwing out some of the most ridiculous contracts i've ever seen. for a team that was the worst of the bunch, the redskins threw randel el about twice what he's worth, proving that bad management never learns.

[mat1419]

what really is baffling me, is a week ago, teams were forced into a sudden reality that they'd mismanaged their money, and with the salary cap, we're faced with massive cuts that would have decimated a lot of them. things work out and the salary cap is adjusted a bit. and teams start throwing out some of the most ridiculous contracts i've ever seen. for a team that was the worst of the bunch, the redskins threw randel el about twice what he's worth, proving that bad management never learns.
case in point. Adam Archuletta, 5 million a year plus 10 million guaranteed.

[histrionics22]

case in point. Adam Archuletta, 5 million a year plus 10 million guaranteed.

They were 7 mil over the cap before this signing.

[Dirty Ernie]

jamal lewis and mike anderson in baltimore?

[itsjdiggity]

fuck yeah, now we got Bulluck and Thornton patrolling the middle

[justinevans]

Eagles signed Howard and Schobel

[ThriftWhore]

jamal lewis and mike anderson in baltimore?
i don't really understand that move. but hey, two more than capable running backs in their backfield.

[Doug]

i don't really understand that move. but hey, two more than capable running backs in their backfield.

uh, did you watch jamal lewis last year?

[mat1419]

uh, did you watch jamal lewis last year?
he wasn't great...but i'd say half of that blame goes to the line/lack of passing

[LeftWideOpen]

he wasn't great...but i'd say half of that blame goes to the line/lack of passing

yea, it's pretty hard to run the ball when teams put 9 men in the box. Defenses don't even need to cover the WRs because even if they are open, Boller isnt going to hit them.

[ThriftWhore]

uh, did you watch jamal lewis last year?
Yeah, did you? He totalled 906 yards, by his standards not a great year, but for a running back thats capable, considering he split time with Chester Taylor. Kinda hard to run when you don't have a passing game, AT ALL.

[Doug]

so now they have mike anderson and jamal lewis, and they still don't have a passing game.

yeah, and jamal lewis also averaged 3.4 yards per carry and only had 4 touchdowns. great season.

[mat1419]

so now they have mike anderson and jamal lewis, and they still don't have a passing game.

yeah, and jamal lewis also averaged 3.4 yards per carry and only had 4 touchdowns. great season.
i know...it's great isn't it? i hate baltimore.

once they're pretty much out of the playoffs i start cheering like mad for boller in hopes that he strings together enough good games that baltimore says, "i think he's coming around". it's been like 3 years in a row and it always works.

[histrionics22]

so now they have mike anderson and jamal lewis, and they still don't have a passing game.

yeah, and jamal lewis also averaged 3.4 yards per carry and only had 4 touchdowns. great season.

It was bad. But considering he spent all summer in prison and almost broke the single season yards record a few years ago, I'd say give him a chance.

[You Vandal]

Yeah, you need to give Jamal a chance...but it still doesn't make much sense to resign him after just picking up Mikey.

[Colin Farrell]

skins not only got archuleta but also just signed andre carter

[Colin Farrell]

how can i find out what draft choices my team has?

[Trainsaw]

how can i find out what draft choices my team has?
www.espn.com/nfl/draftorder/ (www.lemonparty.org)

[mat1419]

how can i find out what draft choices my team has?
ask the teams they traded them to

[emoishardcore]

he wasn't great...but i'd say half of that blame goes to the line/lack of passing

i think jamal lewis is an amazing runner. but i think a small portion of his performance had to deal with motivational issues. it's hard to drive yourself to be great when your teams going nowhere and also when your opposing team knows you have no pass options...not because you have none but because your quarterback is inept.

jamal lewis needs a big contract and huge incentives to reach them. and someteam with a half decent pass threat.

[emoishardcore]

skins not only got archuleta but also just signed andre carter

now i should first say i dont agree that buying yur way into a champinship will work because it doesent create chemistry or stability down the road but i am excited tos ee how tis all fits together in the upcomming year. i named four things the skins needed improving in...that ws their front four defensive line, a key 2nd reciever, a solid TE, and some help in the secondary. now i will not discuss to the extent to which they have satisfied thhese needs, but they did address each and every one of them within two days of me posting this, which means someone in the skins organization reads this forum......the redksins need more cheerleaders with giant breats.......but anyways i feel i should defend the skins pick for brandon lloyd. while i thinkt he 49ers made out better with antonio bryant, lloyd is a good role player for the skins and wont need a 100 catch season. he didnt fit in with the 49ers organization and with their system. i hope gibbs will put him into place and alot of pro sport analysts are calling the signing of lloyd and randel el as a great package.

[emoishardcore]

......and redkskin cheerleaders need get some badonkadonk...more of that incase someone is reading this that can change it....

[still_life]

Gotta love Detroit. They sign a WR to kick off free agency.

[itsjdiggity]

if Drew Brees goes to New Orleans, i'll be the happiest man alive

[still_life]

if Drew Brees goes to New Orleans, i'll be the happiest man alive

I hope he goes to Miami and makes them a division winner. He's played pretty well against NE in his career too, though of course LT in the backfield was huge in those games.

[bigmike]

Gotta love Detroit. They sign a WR to kick off free agency.
Wow. Please, can the NFL strip this team of all management/ownership. This is fucking ridiculous.

[mat1419]

if Drew Brees goes to New Orleans, i'll be the happiest man alive
he was reportedly only using NO to drive his market value up for Miami. I refuse to believe a potential franchise QB would pick NO over Miami.

[Jesse2]

he was reportedly only using NO to drive his market value up for Miami. I refuse to believe a potential franchise QB would pick NO over Miami.

especially when miami is only a couple moves away from being a serious contender.

[Doug]

especially when miami is only a couple moves away from being a serious contender.

basically, getting a quarterback.

[itsjdiggity]

fuck yeah, we got Givens to be our No. 1

all we need is Brees to go to NO so we can pick up Leinart

[Doug]

fuck yeah, we got Givens to be our No. 1

all we need is Brees to go to NO so we can pick up Leinart

i hope you realize that givens isn't even a true no. 2.

[mat1419]

i hope you realize that givens isn't even a true no. 2.
i think he's a legit #2...i agree he's not a great #1 though. A decent step, but the Titans are still miles off the pace.

[itsjdiggity]

holy crap! Culpepper traded to Miami!

one step closer to Leinart

[itsjdiggity]

sweet...we also got Mawae to replace Hartwig

[Dirty Ernie]

damn drew brees goes to new orleans for 6 years

[itsjdiggity]

if Tennessee still drafts Vince Young, im gonna kill somebody

[mat1419]

damn drew brees goes to new orleans for 6 years
i guess miami shot down his money demands, took culpepper, and brees had to go to plan B.

winds change quick nowadays.

[mat1419]

Lions got Kitna...not a bad move actually, he can gun it and they have roughly 90 receivers to gun it to

[Dirty Ernie]

i guess miami shot down his money demands, took culpepper, and brees had to go to plan B.

winds change quick nowadays.

i like the direction miami is going, and they kept their first round pick

but does this mean brad johnson for the vikings? it would be interesting to see if they package their new 2nd round pick and move up to new orleans spot to take a QB

[Jesse2]

Lions got Kitna...not a bad move actually, he can gun it and they have roughly 90 receivers to gun it to

haha yeah, kitna will fit right in with their new 9-receiver-set

[mat1419]

i like the direction miami is going, and they kept their first round pick

but does this mean brad johnson for the vikings? it would be interesting to see if they package their new 2nd round pick and move up to new orleans spot to take a QB
i actually liked brees better as a dolphin, but maybe dante has more character than i give him credit and he can pull all the talent on this team together. it definately makes the dolphins one of the most interesting teams next year.

and NO is shopping that #2 pick around...I wouldn't be surprised to see the Vikes trade up to get it if they can.

[itsjdiggity]

haha yeah, kitna will fit right in with their new 9-receiver-set

that's gonna be confusing as fuck in Madden

[ThriftWhore]

The Saints getting Brees throws the whole draft off. Saints are looking to trade the second pick now.

[Trainsaw]

The Saints getting Brees throws the whole draft off. Saints are looking to trade the second pick now.
that should be interesting

[Drew Beringer]

My buddy told me that the Packers are interested in Vanderjagt? Any truth?

[mat1419]

My buddy told me that the Packers are interested in Vanderjagt? Any truth?
they are interested...i don't know how far talks have gone but its definately a rumor with steam

[still_life]

Nice career suicide by Brees, great move for Culpepper.

Matt Leinart, welcome to Tennessee.

[Drew Beringer]

they are interested...i don't know how far talks have gone but its definately a rumor with steam

I hope they sign him. Even I don't think he is a good cold weather kicker.

[still_life]

So is San Diego not a playoff team now?

[Drew Beringer]

So is San Diego not a playoff team now?

I don't think so, to me Rivers is still a rookie quarterback. He will struggle and tehy will miss the playoffs.

[FondestMemory]

keyshawn released by the cowboys.

who saw that coming? that mean to's a cowboy by week's end?

[still_life]

I think SD goes 9-7 at best. Rivers will most likely struggle.

[still_life]

keyshawn released by the cowboys.

who saw that coming? that mean to's a cowboy by week's end?

They don't want to pay him a bonus, and yes, keep TO in the NFC East. That'd be great

[still_life]

Could Oakland look to trade up for the #2 pick to take Leinart? Though you have to question his arm strength, and Oakland's offense demands the deep ball.

[Drew Beringer]

Could Oakland look to trade up for the #2 pick to take Leinart? Though you have to question his arm strength, and Oakland's offense demands the deep ball.

It's going to be very interesting to see what happens now. I'm just happy the Packers are making some progress this offseason.

[still_life]

This really changes the draft. I could even see Aaron Brooks going to Oakland for a year or two. And what does Minnesota do, is Brad Johnson actually the choice for opening day QB?

[Drew Beringer]

This really changes the draft. I could even see Aaron Brooks going to Oakland for a year or two. And what does Minnesota do, is Brad Johnson actually the choice for opening day QB?

Yeah, Clayton or Mort on ESPN were talking about how the Vikings are most likely giving the starting job to Johnson. Sure he did decent filling in for Culpepper last year, but I think it'll hurt them more than it'll help them, which is fine by me, I hate the Vikings.

[Drew Beringer]

I think SD goes 9-7 at best. Rivers will most likely struggle.

Yeah, I even think 9-7 is generous.

[still_life]

I don't like the Vikings either, though at least there games were fun to watch when they had Culpepper and Moss. GB vs. MIN were always some of the games I was looking forward to most each year. Now they'll just be lame.

[itsjdiggity]

I hope NO keeps their pick and takes D'Brick.

I could see Vince Young as a Raider.

[still_life]

Oakland fans insist Al Davis would never want a QB like Young, and they've had maybe 2 QB's similar to him in franchise history.

NO should trade with a team that wants Leinart (maybe Jets at #4) and take D'Brick then.

[Drew Beringer]

I don't like the Vikings either, though at least there games were fun to watch when they had Culpepper and Moss. GB vs. MIN were always some of the games I was looking forward to most each year. Now they'll just be lame.

Packers are going to be a lot better this year though :)

[still_life]

Packers are going to be a lot better this year though :)

I hope they don't get a lot of primetime games this year, because I'm just not interested anymore. I don't think the rest of the fans will be either if Favre retires and Walker leaves. Then you have a pretty young team with a questionable QB and Ahman Green on the decline.

[Trainsaw]

keyshawn released by the cowboys.

who saw that coming? that mean to's a cowboy by week's end?
that's gotta be a clear sign the cowboys are getting TO

[mat1419]

that's gotta be a clear sign the cowboys are getting TO
they had planned on it anyway because of how Keyshawn's contract was structured.

Honestly though, lately I've been focusing my hate for the Cowboys on the Redskins. I would LOVE to see TO go to Dallas and watch the Philly hate for Dallas resurface. The first game he comes to Philly...things will burn.

[Trainsaw]

they had planned on it anyway because of how Keyshawn's contract was structured.

Honestly though, lately I've been focusing my hate for the Cowboys on the Redskins. I would LOVE to see TO go to Dallas and watch the Philly hate for Dallas resurface. The first game he comes to Philly...things will burn.

Most noticebly the Eagles record.

[mat1419]

Most noticebly the Eagles record.
they lost two to Dallas last year...and TO didn't play half the year. I don't see how this puts them in any worse situation. the team's morale can only get better. nobody in Philly is shaking one bit.

[Trainsaw]

they lost two to Dallas last year...and TO didn't play half the year. I don't see how this puts them in any worse situation. the team's morale can only get better. nobody in Philly is shaking one bit.
I don't think anyone can argue the fact that he can make a team a whole lot better.

[wessa]

Oakland fans insist Al Davis would never want a QB like Young, and they've had maybe 2 QB's similar to him in franchise history.

NO should trade with a team that wants Leinart (maybe Jets at #4) and take D'Brick then.

i can definately see this happening if the jets are serious about taking leinert, now that NO definately does not need a quarterback, titans have their choice, originally everyone said young because leinert was going #2, but now people are saying they might take leinert because of norm chow, i think the jets will trade up and will swap picks with the saints, the saints will still get anyone they want because the titans are definately taking a quarterback, a good trade for both teams.

My favorite thing about these signing is that it possibly drops young down the draft board, if trades do not happen and the titans take leinert, young may drop because i do not think the jets will take him (at least i hope not), and green bay has no need for a qb

[FondestMemory]

i think the jets will make a strong move for no. 2. tennessee will take leinart at 3, so anybody who wants him needs to grab that 2 spot. puts new orleans in a fantastic position. they'll probably get a few extra picks from the jets, leinart will end up in new york and mario williams will go to new orleans at 4.

[Colin Farrell]

I don't think anyone can argue the fact that he can make a team a whole lot better.
that is true, see 2004 eagles. its also true he can make a team a whole lot worse see 2005 eagles.

[mat1419]

I don't think anyone can argue the fact that he can make a team a whole lot better.
i agree...he has the potential to make a team much better...but his departure won't burn the Eagles record as you said before.

[radiofriendly]

i agree...he has the potential to make a team much better...but his departure won't burn the Eagles record as you said before.

yeah, i think philly will be okay.

[bigmike]

haha yeah, kitna will fit right in with their new 9-receiver-set
let's get it straight please, we only run 8-reciever-sets. then we'll throw the check down screen pass to shawn bryson while kevin jones is on the sideline.

[Chriz2z]

Ugh, I've loved Drew Brees since he was a Chap at Westlake High School, I think this move may kill his career. I thought it was awesome how he and LT were at San Diego together, and since the Lions aren't doing jack, they were my team to root for. Plus, this screws up the whole first round. Have fun NFL GMs.

[still_life]

24/32 teams have made at least one signing of a new player so far

First major Steelers activity: Kimo to the Jets, re-signed Brett Kiesel, and signed Ryan Clark from Washington. Looks like Ryan Clark will be the new starter with Polamalu, as Hope will be gone.

And what's a ***** have to do to get this pinned?

[Colin Farrell]

24/32 teams have made at least one signing of a new player so far

First major Steelers activity: Kimo to the Jets, re-signed Brett Kiesel, and signed Ryan Clark from Washington. Looks like Ryan Clark will be the new starter with Polamalu, as Hope will be gone.

And what's a ***** have to do to get this pinned?
clarks a good guy, hes a solid player, not too above average though

[mikeford]

patriots still havent done a goddamn thing.

[SoundTheAlarm]

Being from tennesse and being a titans fan i think the best situation for our team would be Matt coming to play quarter back for us but it looks like a trade up could prevent that.

[itsjdiggity]

Being from tennesse and being a titans fan i think the best situation for our team would be Matt coming to play quarter back for us but it looks like a trade up could prevent that.

i sure hope not

[histrionics22]

clarks a good guy, hes a solid player, not too above average though

Ehh neither was Hope.

[SoundTheAlarm]

Got some more signings for us TN fans. Not bad at all...

Tennesse Titans:
LB David Thorton (colts)
WR David Givens (pats)
C Kevin Mawae (jets)

[itsjdiggity]

Continuing their offseason emphasis on adding both quality and quantity to the secondary, the New York Giants (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyg) have reached contract agreement with unrestricted free agent safety Will Demps (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6159), a four-year veteran who had played his entire career with the Baltimore Ravens (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=bal).

Demps will sign a five-year contract believed to be worth $10 million-$12 million.

[justinevans]

yay re-sign mccants andy.....he's a great replacement for owens.

[joshluke2003]

I'm pissed that my team traded Culpepper....I'm pissed!

[itsjdiggity]

In perhaps the most competitive negotiation Wednesday, the Green Bay Packers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=gnb) beat out the Bills and the Rams for Rams defensive tackle Ryan Pickett (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5476).

[char]

ESPN.com reports that Willie McGinest (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2743) will sign a three-year, $12 million contract that includes $6 million in bonuses and guarantees with the Cleveland Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle).

Crennel is quietly building the makings of a contender in Cleveland. Their schedule is a monster this year, but I could see them having a great year in 2007.


It's also rumored that the Eagles and Jeff Garcia (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4924) have agreed in principle to a deal. No details are available yet.

[FondestMemory]

chris hope as a titan is pretty much a done deal.

[piebaldkid42]

i want arrington as a giant now!

[piebaldkid42]

patriots still havent done a goddamn thing.
theyre just giving players away

[Colin Farrell]

brandon lloyd is a star

[mat1419]

brandon lloyd is a star
hahaha...he is a joke. he can't run routes, can't take hits, has a shitty attitude. he makes one circus catch for every 5 he drops. i'm so excited he's a redskin.

[FondestMemory]

hey patriots fans,

how's keyshawn sound?

i think it'd be a good fit. he's big and physical. he enjoys blocking in the running game. he's been well behaved under parcells, no reason he couldn't do the same for belichek. and he's a receiver.

think there's any chance of that?

[still_life]

Aaron Brooks released

I think he'd do well in Oakland with Moss on the field.

[Drew Beringer]

In perhaps the most competitive negotiation Wednesday, the Green Bay Packers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=gnb) beat out the Bills and the Rams for Rams defensive tackle Ryan Pickett (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5476).

Swwweeet.

[Drew Beringer]

Packers D is started to look better. Line includes Kabeer, Kampman, and now Pickett, also include Manuel back there with Harris in the secondary. Linebacker Nick Barnett is a great player too. Don't forget they'll either add AJ Hawk or Mario Williams from the draft to the D also. I'm getting somewhat excited.

[FondestMemory]

Packers D is started to look better. Line includes Kabeer, Kampman, and now Pickett, also include Manuel back there with Harris in the secondary. Linebacker Nick Barnett is a great player too. Don't forget they'll either add AJ Hawk or Mario Williams from the draft to the D also. I'm getting somewhat excited.

the brees signing may lead to you getting your wish of having hawk as a packer next year.

everything i'd heard so far was that they were gonna use the pick on mario williams, but i don't think he'll make it past new orleans if they still end up picking in front of the pack. i think they'll both end up being beasts in the pros, but i think hawk would be a better fit for the packers by far.

and wasn't vinatieri visiting green bay today? i still think he ends up a cowboy, but he's proven what he can do in shitty cold weather.

[xearlynovemberx]

i want arrington as a giant now!

i dont think its happening..altho i would like it too

[still_life]

I think GB needs Mario more than Hawk, but will most likely have Hawk available and Mario gone.

[itsjdiggity]

hey still_life or Vincewithouthee, school me on Chris Hope

[mat1419]

hey still_life or Vincewithouthee, school me on Chris Hope
bad news for your team

[still_life]

hey still_life or Vincewithouthee, school me on Chris Hope

Hard hitter that can play run and pass, but he'll sometimes struggle with bigger RB's. Mostly dropped deep while Polamalu did his thing all over the field.

[itsjdiggity]

bad news for your team

really? ESPN has him listed as the 19th best FA

[mat1419]

really? ESPN has him listed as the 19th best FA
i dunno a ton about him, my roommate's a Steelers fan and he complained a lot about him. We have the season ticket and every Sunday he'd have something new. Hope it goes well for you though. Oh puns are great...

[itsjdiggity]

Thanks

[xearlynovemberx]

i dunno a ton about him, my roommate's a Steelers fan and he complained a lot about him. We have the season ticket and every Sunday he'd have something new. Hope it goes well for you though. Oh puns are great...


hahah clever i like it

[FondestMemory]

hey still_life or Vincewithouthee, school me on Chris Hope

his play last year was leaps and bounds better than previous years. if that keeps up, you'll be fine. it'll be interesting to see what he does without polamalu. he's a good sign though. not a great one, but a solid player.

[mat1419]

Resigned McCants, Signed Jeff Garcia, Signed Jabar Gaffney. They are making moves...but unfortunately nothing that will help the team.

[Dirty Ernie]

i like the gaffney signing, didn't see it coming, i think they can survive with this group of receivers and now they can focus on other positions

[itsjdiggity]

In a move that likely augurs the imminent departure of starting quarterback Joey Harrington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5889) after four disappointing seasons, ESPN.com has learned that the Detroit Lions (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=det) on Thursday signed unrestricted free agent Josh McCown (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5967), who had played his entire career with the Arizona Cardinals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ari).
McCown

McCown, 26, signed a two-year contract worth $6 million, a deal that will pay him $4 million in 2006 between his signing bonus and base salary. The addition of McCown comes just two days after Detroit signed former Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cin) quarterback Jon Kitna (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4157) to a four-year, $11.5 million contract that has a signing bonus of $3.5 million.

[FondestMemory]

In a move that likely augurs the imminent departure of starting quarterback Joey Harrington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5889) after four disappointing seasons, ESPN.com has learned that the Detroit Lions (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=det) on Thursday signed unrestricted free agent Josh McCown (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5967), who had played his entire career with the Arizona Cardinals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ari).
McCown

McCown, 26, signed a two-year contract worth $6 million, a deal that will pay him $4 million in 2006 between his signing bonus and base salary. The addition of McCown comes just two days after Detroit signed former Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cin) quarterback Jon Kitna (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4157) to a four-year, $11.5 million contract that has a signing bonus of $3.5 million.

i've thought since the end of last year that mccown is gonna be the steal of this free agent pool. in a couple of years i think he can be a very solid starter.

that's just weird for detroit to do though. cause didn't they also pick up shaun king?

[SoundTheAlarm]

Kitna should be starting in the NFL im glad he has got another chance. Billy volek could also be starting.

[mat1419]

Resigned McCants, Signed Jeff Garcia, Signed Jabar Gaffney. They are making moves...but unfortunately nothing that will help the team.
i want moulds

[justinevans]

i want moulds
Bad knock on Moulds, he is old and never played in a West Coast Style Offense.

[bigmike]

Joey's on his way out in Detroit. it's sad, he doesn't deserve all the blame. alot of it, but not all of it.

[still_life]

Steelers end up with Bailey again, a guy they drafted. Not a bad depth player

I'm not sure what Detroit is up to (nothing new there). Yeah they lost Garcia and Harrington wants out, but they bring in Kitna, King, and McCown?

[still_life]

And Adam Archuleta being the richest safety in NFL history is a fucking joke.

[xearlynovemberx]

And Adam Archuleta being the richest safety in NFL history is a fucking joke.

word

[FreshyFresh23]

alright, whats everyone's take on Seattle's free agency so far..

Lost: Bailey to Pittsburgh

Re-signed: alexander, warrick and bernard..

Hutchinson is in limbo at the moment...

Nate Burleson(sp), Abraham and Julian Peterson all visited Seattle this week...

How do you guys see this playing out? If we keep Hutch would other contracts need to be reworked to sign other players or what?

I hope that Seattle can match, work a trade for Abraham , sign Peterson and address WR and depth at guard through the draft with Sinorcie moss/chad jackson and tuitui. wishful thinking

[bigmike]

Steelers end up with Bailey again, a guy they drafted. Not a bad depth player

I'm not sure what Detroit is up to (nothing new there). Yeah they lost Garcia and Harrington wants out, but they bring in Kitna, King, and McCown?
Isn't it obvious? waste 4 straight draft picks and a three headed QB monster with kitna/king/mccown. those three with our 8 wide-reciever-sets, vernon davis turned wideout, we'll be a monster.

they're saving money by basically giving up harrington for mccown. no sense in paying harrington an extra 4 mil to have him backup while management tries their best to avoid giving him a shot. but really, we're a shitty team.

[FreshyFresh23]

Isn't it obvious? waste 4 straight draft picks and a three headed QB monster with kitna/king/mccown. those three with our 8 wide-reciever-sets, vernon davis turned wideout, we'll be a monster.

they're saving money by basically giving up harrington for mccown. no sense in paying harrington an extra 4 mil to have him backup while management tries their best to avoid giving him a shot. but really, we're a shitty team.

i feel bad for you that situation is such a mess. the management seems like they flat out dont know what theyre doing. like it's their first time playing franchise mode in madden

[still_life]

alright, whats everyone's take on Seattle's free agency so far..

Lost: Bailey to Pittsburgh

Re-signed: alexander, warrick and bernard..

Hutchinson is in limbo at the moment...

Nate Burleson(sp), Abraham and Julian Peterson all visited Seattle this week...

How do you guys see this playing out? If we keep Hutch would other contracts need to be reworked to sign other players or what?

I hope that Seattle can match, work a trade for Abraham , sign Peterson and address WR and depth at guard through the draft with Sinorcie moss/chad jackson and tuitui. wishful thinking

If they lose Hutchinson and don't add a player like Burleson or Peterson, then it's a piss poor FA for them.

They also lost Manuel, Jamie Sharper, and Andre Dyson.

[FreshyFresh23]

If they lose Hutchinson and don't add a player like Burleson or Peterson, then it's a piss poor FA for them.

They also lost Manuel, Jamie Sharper, and Andre Dyson.

Manuel wasnt worth what he wanted.. pretty good against run but cannot make plays and terrible pass coverage. Hopefully Hamlin is back otherwise this will be a position addressed through draft

i dont count players they cut willingly (sharper, dyson) , despite being 15 mil under the cap before, losses..

They are 23-24 million under the cap according to the seattle pi/seattle times..

more than enough to snag hutch and another player i think. Hutch would probably cost 13 mil against the cap.. leaving with 11 million to work with.. peterson or burleson can fit there.

[bigmike]

i feel bad for you that situation is such a mess. the management seems like they flat out dont know what theyre doing. like it's their first time playing franchise mode in madden
it's the management and the ownership. william clay ford doesn't give a shit if he fields a winning team because it's nothing but sellouts each sunday. and as long as people keep putting money in his pocket from ticket sales, concession sales, merch. sales, etc.. he'll continue to be a terrible owner who doesn't get the concept of "winning".

And how matt millen survived calling johnny morten a ***got after a game in kansas city when morten came up to him to talk to him after morten and the chiefs beat him is beyond me. Not to mention saying that joey harrington has no balls on the radio. he should be fired for his retarded mouth off the field, let alone the terrible personnel moves he's made.

[itsjdiggity]

ATLANTA -- In a move that addresses the Atlanta Falcons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=atl)' most glaring defensive shortcoming, the team on Friday reached an agreement with unrestricted free-agent safety Lawyer Milloy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3572), who was released by the Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) two weeks ago for salary cap reasons.

Milloy, 32, will sign a three-year contract, worth $6.01 million, with a signing bonus of $2.5 million and salaries of $810,000, $1 million, and $1.7 million, according to agent Kevin Poston, ESPN.com's Michael Smith reports.

[FreshyFresh23]

ATLANTA -- In a move that addresses the Atlanta Falcons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=atl)' most glaring defensive shortcoming, the team on Friday reached an agreement with unrestricted free-agent safety Lawyer Milloy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3572), who was released by the Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) two weeks ago for salary cap reasons.

Milloy, 32, will sign a three-year contract, worth $6.01 million, with a signing bonus of $2.5 million and salaries of $810,000, $1 million, and $1.7 million, according to agent Kevin Poston, ESPN.com's Michael Smith reports.

Good move for them just for his defensive leadership. Still solid against the run, i think he has lost a step in pass protection but he will be good there, as long as his body holds up

[itsjdiggity]

Finally completing a trade that had been rumored for weeks, the New York Jets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj) on Friday afternoon acquired quarterback Patrick Ramsey (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5918) from the Washington Redskins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was) for a sixth-round choice in the 2006 draft, ESPN.com has learned.

[FondestMemory]

Finally completing a trade that had been rumored for weeks, the New York Jets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj) on Friday afternoon acquired quarterback Patrick Ramsey (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5918) from the Washington Redskins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was) for a sixth-round choice in the 2006 draft, ESPN.com has learned.

wow. sixth round pick. that's gotta do wonders for the self esteem.

[itsjdiggity]

Former first-round tailback and unrestricted free agent Michael Bennett (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5474), whose promising career has been derailed by a series of injuries, has reached a contract agreement with the New Orleans Saints (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nor), where he will serve as the primary backup to Deuce McAllister (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5470).

Bennett played all five previous seasons with the Minnesota Vikings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=min), who chose him in the first round of the 2001 draft. He will sign a two-year contract worth $3 million, and the deal includes a signing bonus of $1 million. Bennett can earn an additional $1 million in incentives in each year of the contract.

[histrionics22]

Steelers resigned Townshend. 4 years nearly 8 million.

[itsjdiggity]

The Patriots made their first move in free agency by reaching a two-year agreement with Chargers wide receiver Reche Caldwell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5934).

[still_life]

Dallas News has TO to the Cowboys

[char]

Hahahahaha. Awesome.

So what should the over/under be for how long it will take T.O. to tear apart Dallas?

[bigmike]

Hahahahaha. Awesome.

So what should the over/under be for how long it will take T.O. to tear apart Dallas?
he'll be fine for at least a whole season. maybe longer. he was fine for a full season in philly, and now he knows that if he fucks up another team he'll be out of the nfl.

[wecanbeheros]

Hahahahaha. Awesome.

So what should the over/under be for how long it will take T.O. to tear apart Dallas?

If they're doing good? almost 2 seasons.

If they're doing bad? 9 games.

[still_life]

I can't wait to see his chemistry with Bledsoe.

[itsjdiggity]

The Seattle Seahawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sea), who already have one of the best defensive tackle rotations in the league, have further added to the depth at the position, by reaching a contract agreement with unrestricted free agent Russell Davis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4698).