sick of screamo?

[richter915]

Hey. Recently I've noticed this sudden surge of screamo around here, and surely anywhere else across the nation. Even though scream has only gotten big in the past 6 months or so, it's really sickening me. I wanted to know if anyone else but me felt the same way. I wanted to know why people gave up streaking for cutting themselves. Why did all the lively, vibrant colors of pop-punk died down to the black, grey, and blood-red of screamo? Before you answer though, consider some things i'll post.

First off, is the preps. Ya it's real stereotypical, but I quite frankly don't care. People say that screamo is a more aggressive genre for people to listen to and help solve their problems. It's kind of like shock therapy. but, since when do preps have problems? There's like 1 in a thousand who has like a drunken father or something. Even still, I don't see how preps can turn to rock for their problems. It just really pisses me off seeing these preppy girls with like a finch shirt with their 200 dollar ensembles.

Another point. How is it that people can relate more to screamo then regular annoying emo? The lyrics between the two are not really that different. Screamo just conveys it in a violent sort of manner where as emo cries about it. Why suddenly though do people feel the need to get mad and cut themselves about losing their girlfriends where as before it was just crying? are people thinking they're too big and tough for that these days?

Also, screamo is almost trying to kill pop-punk. Pop-punk, in my opinion, was music about trying to get girlfriends and telling the girl to leave the dumb preppy jock for you. Now we have screamo which is all, again in my opinion, "I'm gonna go yell scream and bitch that my girlfriend left and go into this super depression thing and chop myself up".

Bands like taking back sunday are all, getting into a relationship is like biting the bullet cause you're bound to die in the end. Why is that? Since when is being loved and getting the attention from someone you can't get away from like suicide? And girls don't just break hearts, guys can easily write about how they cheat on their girlfriends, but no one ever does, why?

It is true that there are pop-punk bands that write about losing girlfriends and being broken hearted, but why must there be this aggressive spin to it that's seemingly suicidal in screamo? I'll compare two songs, one screamo, one pop-punk, that has the same general topic but provides contrasting conclusions. Perfect example is the song "I Feel Fine" by Riddlin Kids, a pop-punk band. The song is literally feeling fine that you're girlfriend dumped you, because she was a bitch. On the other hand, take the screamo band Taking Back Sunday and observe their lyrics in "Cute without the 'E' (Cut from the Team)". It more or less describes someone going to suicide after finding the person's girlfriend with another. Both songs have similar situations, why does TBS have to give such a negative message to kids though while RK doesn't? I know all pop-punk is not like Riddlin Kids and all screamo is not like TBS and these two examples are just rash generalizations, but the point gets across. My question again is that, why would anyone choose such a negative path to something that's not worth it. If she's cheating on you, why hurt yourself when it's not your fault? Boggles the mind.

Personally, I have a friend who I'd give anything for, and she listens to tons of screamo. But I learned that she was also into the whole self-mutilation thing. I mean, it's hard to say that music did not influence what she did, but there is more and making the conclusion i did was very brash and irrational, but I don't know what else to blame.

I dunno, I'm just expressing my stand on screamo. I don't like it much, though I can tolerate it more then other types of music, but I hate the type of message it gives to some people and why people would support such a negative message. Thanks to anyone who read all of this and please post your opinions.

[Allisun]

First, not all screamo is negative. But by you saying that screamo is trying to kill pop-punk is erroneous. Screamo is in no way taking the place of the "my girlfriend dumped me" pop-punk that you speak of. screamo is just a new genre, not a replacement.

[Greg]

i didn't read your whole post cause well frankly i'm too dumb to read that long of a thing without not paying attention. anyway i'm not tired of screamo. at least not yet.

[Stompemplay]

cry about it.

I read the first two sentences, got lazy, but im just assuming that is what i would say.

[steve-0]

Originally posted by richter915
It's kind of like shock therapy. but, since when do preps have problems? There's like 1 in a thousand who has like a drunken father or something. Even still, I don't see how preps can turn to rock for their problems. It just really pisses me off seeing these preppy girls with like a finch shirt with their 200 dollar ensembles.

This sentence alone makes me believe that youre an idiot. 'Preps' are just the same as anyone else and have problems, just like everyone else.
although i do agree that most of these bands (I wouldnt classify them as screamo) suck a fat one.

[kidinthecorner]

Maybe I'm just a retard, but I don't get suicidal urges listening to any of my screamo. I didn't even think most of the songs had suicidal messages.

[SocoBabe]

Uh.... ok?

[Greg]

Originally posted by kidinthecorner
Maybe I'm just a retard, but I don't get suicidal urges listening to any of my screamo. I didn't even think most of the songs had suicidal messages.

if anything it's about killing OTHER people....

[theused_FSF]

i love screamo and am no where near tired of it

[richter915]

Originally posted by Greg
if anything it's about killing OTHER people....

But I don't get it, why have to kill anyone, yourself or others? I mean ya it's fun seeing preps get tortured but still, why the sudden shift from pop-punk to scream

[ryan]

hey thanks for wasting my time

[ntb60]

I'm not ashamed to say it but I like screamo too. It takes talent and the music is a lot more complicated than most punk. Not trashing most punk because I love itall. My tastes just range from Static Lullaby to Unsung Zeros. And generalizing all people who like it as preps? Bad call.

[richter915]

Originally posted by ntb60
I'm not ashamed to say it but I like screamo too. It takes talent and the music is a lot more complicated than most punk. Not trashing most punk because I love itall. My tastes just range from Static Lullaby to Unsung Zeros. And generalizing all people who like it as preps? Bad call.

I know screamo takes talent, and there's no reason to be ashamed to like it, if anything good for you. I'm not saying all screamo fans are preps. I'm saying those preps who like screamo are just, annoying. But i know they're a small minority in the screamo fanbase.

[richter915]

Originally posted by ntb60
I'm not ashamed to say it but I like screamo too. It takes talent and the music is a lot more complicated than most punk. Not trashing most punk because I love itall. My tastes just range from Static Lullaby to Unsung Zeros. And generalizing all people who like it as preps? Bad call.

I know screamo takes talent, and there's no reason to be ashamed to like it, if anything good for you. I'm not saying all screamo fans are preps. I'm saying those preps who like screamo are just, annoying. But i know they're a small minority in the screamo fanbase.

[ant!flagpunk579]

Originally posted by richter915
Hey. Recently I've noticed this sudden surge of screamo around here, and surely anywhere else across the nation. Even though scream has only gotten big in the past 6 months or so, it's really sickening me. I wanted to know if anyone else but me felt the same way. I wanted to know why people gave up streaking for cutting themselves. Why did all the lively, vibrant colors of pop-punk died down to the black, grey, and blood-red of screamo? Before you answer though, consider some things i'll post.

First off, is the preps. Ya it's real stereotypical, but I quite frankly don't care. People say that screamo is a more aggressive genre for people to listen to and help solve their problems. It's kind of like shock therapy. but, since when do preps have problems? There's like 1 in a thousand who has like a drunken father or something. Even still, I don't see how preps can turn to rock for their problems. It just really pisses me off seeing these preppy girls with like a finch shirt with their 200 dollar ensembles.

Another point. How is it that people can relate more to screamo then regular annoying emo? The lyrics between the two are not really that different. Screamo just conveys it in a violent sort of manner where as emo cries about it. Why suddenly though do people feel the need to get mad and cut themselves about losing their girlfriends where as before it was just crying? are people thinking they're too big and tough for that these days?

Also, screamo is almost trying to kill pop-punk. Pop-punk, in my opinion, was music about trying to get girlfriends and telling the girl to leave the dumb preppy jock for you. Now we have screamo which is all, again in my opinion, "I'm gonna go yell scream and bitch that my girlfriend left and go into this super depression thing and chop myself up".

Bands like taking back sunday are all, getting into a relationship is like biting the bullet cause you're bound to die in the end. Why is that? Since when is being loved and getting the attention from someone you can't get away from like suicide? And girls don't just break hearts, guys can easily write about how they cheat on their girlfriends, but no one ever does, why?

It is true that there are pop-punk bands that write about losing girlfriends and being broken hearted, but why must there be this aggressive spin to it that's seemingly suicidal in screamo? I'll compare two songs, one screamo, one pop-punk, that has the same general topic but provides contrasting conclusions. Perfect example is the song "I Feel Fine" by Riddlin Kids, a pop-punk band. The song is literally feeling fine that you're girlfriend dumped you, because she was a bitch. On the other hand, take the screamo band Taking Back Sunday and observe their lyrics in "Cute without the 'E' (Cut from the Team)". It more or less describes someone going to suicide after finding the person's girlfriend with another. Both songs have similar situations, why does TBS have to give such a negative message to kids though while RK doesn't? I know all pop-punk is not like Riddlin Kids and all screamo is not like TBS and these two examples are just rash generalizations, but the point gets across. My question again is that, why would anyone choose such a negative path to something that's not worth it. If she's cheating on you, why hurt yourself when it's not your fault? Boggles the mind.

Personally, I have a friend who I'd give anything for, and she listens to tons of screamo. But I learned that she was also into the whole self-mutilation thing. I mean, it's hard to say that music did not influence what she did, but there is more and making the conclusion i did was very brash and irrational, but I don't know what else to blame.

I dunno, I'm just expressing my stand on screamo. I don't like it much, though I can tolerate it more then other types of music, but I hate the type of message it gives to some people and why people would support such a negative message. Thanks to anyone who read all of this and please post your opinions.
you coulda just said screamo sucks and saved everyone alot of time

[richter915]

first off i spent alot of time writing it myself so that's why i hope some people who have nothing better to do might read it. anyway, saying screamo sucks is just stupid cause it's vague and has no facts to back it up where as my post does. ya in general i have no life.

[bluetunehead]

Originally posted by richter915
Hey. Recently I've noticed this sudden surge of screamo around here, and surely anywhere else across the nation. Even though scream has only gotten big in the past 6 months or so, it's really sickening me. I wanted to know if anyone else but me felt the same way. I wanted to know why people gave up streaking for cutting themselves. Why did all the lively, vibrant colors of pop-punk died down to the black, grey, and blood-red of screamo? Before you answer though, consider some things i'll post.

we can't always act like we're 12, but ya, the new hardcore shit goes too far in the other direction, anyway....

First off, is the preps. Ya it's real stereotypical, but I quite frankly don't care. People say that screamo is a more aggressive genre for people to listen to and help solve their problems. It's kind of like shock therapy. but, since when do preps have problems? There's like 1 in a thousand who has like a drunken father or something. Even still, I don't see how preps can turn to rock for their problems. It just really pisses me off seeing these preppy girls with like a finch shirt with their 200 dollar ensembles.

ok, that was a horrible statement to make. it doesn't matter what type of clothes you wear, life is fucking difficult regardless. and i guarantee that more than 1 in a 1000 preps have problems in their families. every family has problems. every person has difficulty growing up, i dont care if you're the star quarterback or the drop-out working at 7-Eleven. its not easy for anyone. sure, it may be more difficult for some, but the fact that somebody can buy a 200 dollar ensemble doesn't mean they have a good life. it may mean that their parents shower them with gifts to make up for the fact that they don't pay attention to them otherwise. to make a sweeping generalization like 'preps dont have problems' is wrong. i challenge you to find one person who can say in complete honesty that their life has been a breeze.

Another point. How is it that people can relate more to screamo then regular annoying emo? The lyrics between the two are not really that different. Screamo just conveys it in a violent sort of manner where as emo cries about it. Why suddenly though do people feel the need to get mad and cut themselves about losing their girlfriends where as before it was just crying? are people thinking they're too big and tough for that these days?

it can be extremely helpful to vent your frustrations in ways other than crying. they both go hand in hand but come on, dont you ever get pissed off?

Also, screamo is almost trying to kill pop-punk. Pop-punk, in my opinion, was music about trying to get girlfriends and telling the girl to leave the dumb preppy jock for you. Now we have screamo which is all, again in my opinion, "I'm gonna go yell scream and bitch that my girlfriend left and go into this super depression thing and chop myself up".

ya and a lot of people think thats the problem with pop-punk.

Bands like taking back sunday are all, getting into a relationship is like biting the bullet cause you're bound to die in the end. Why is that? Since when is being loved and getting the attention from someone you can't get away from like suicide? And girls don't just break hearts, guys can easily write about how they cheat on their girlfriends, but no one ever does, why?

people do write songs about asshole guys, you probably just haven't heard them. there are plenty out there.

It is true that there are pop-punk bands that write about losing girlfriends and being broken hearted, but why must there be this aggressive spin to it that's seemingly suicidal in screamo? I'll compare two songs, one screamo, one pop-punk, that has the same general topic but provides contrasting conclusions. Perfect example is the song "I Feel Fine" by Riddlin Kids, a pop-punk band. The song is literally feeling fine that you're girlfriend dumped you, because she was a bitch. On the other hand, take the screamo band Taking Back Sunday and observe their lyrics in "Cute without the 'E' (Cut from the Team)". It more or less describes someone going to suicide after finding the person's girlfriend with another. Both songs have similar situations, why does TBS have to give such a negative message to kids though while RK doesn't? I know all pop-punk is not like Riddlin Kids and all screamo is not like TBS and these two examples are just rash generalizations, but the point gets across. My question again is that, why would anyone choose such a negative path to something that's not worth it. If she's cheating on you, why hurt yourself when it's not your fault? Boggles the mind.

ok, if listening to songs leads you to hurt yourself or to kill yourself, then there are other problems at hand (ive dealt with a close friend like this). next, people write songs like this because in many cases its more realistic than pop-punk. you can't sit there and put on a happy face all the time. you have to let your feelings out or else you will go insane. when people listen to bands like this, its a release for them. yes, many of these bands take it overboard, often bordering on mysoginistic lyrics. but also, when a band like TBS writes these songs, chances are they are writing them so that they won't carry it out in life. writing can be very soothing. saying that 'i'm going to slit my throat' is a way of expressing the fact that its how they feel, its not the same as doing it. when you get metaphorically shit on by someone at the end of a relationship, you feel anger, resentment, bitterness. these songs are expressing these feelings.

Personally, I have a friend who I'd give anything for, and she listens to tons of screamo. But I learned that she was also into the whole self-mutilation thing. I mean, it's hard to say that music did not influence what she did, but there is more and making the conclusion i did was very brash and irrational, but I don't know what else to blame.

i've gone through that one with a close friend and its a shitty deal. sorry. yes, if they let themselves get swallowed up in the music, it can push them in that way. but the point is, if they aren't strong enough to note the difference, then they need help regardless. if you listen to a song and you decide to hurt yourself, it is very tragic, but the emotional problem and your difficulty dealing with it through non-damaging ways was present before you ever listened to the song.

I dunno, I'm just expressing my stand on screamo. I don't like it much, though I can tolerate it more then other types of music, but I hate the type of message it gives to some people and why people would support such a negative message. Thanks to anyone who read all of this and please post your opinions.

that really sucks about your friend because i've been there. its tragic. listening to so much negative music may not be the best thing to do in that situation, and thats perfectly understandable, but for many people it is helpful. i know listening to any music with honest and powerful lyrics is helpful for me. but getting lost in them to the point where you start living the lyrics is a problem. in those cases, hell ya, throw on pop-punk. good luck with your friend.

[theused7888]

yeah.. that post was entirely too long... no more giant posts for you.. stop.. no more.. no.. don't even think about it.. BAD.. no more giant posts!

[mOvielife99]

Originally posted by richter915
Hey. Recently I've noticed this sudden surge of screamo around here, and surely anywhere else across the nation. Even though scream has only gotten big in the past 6 months or so, it's really sickening me. I wanted to know if anyone else but me felt the same way. I wanted to know why people gave up streaking for cutting themselves. Why did all the lively, vibrant colors of pop-punk died down to the black, grey, and blood-red of screamo? Before you answer though, consider some things i'll post.

First off, is the preps. Ya it's real stereotypical, but I quite frankly don't care. People say that screamo is a more aggressive genre for people to listen to and help solve their problems. It's kind of like shock therapy. but, since when do preps have problems? There's like 1 in a thousand who has like a drunken father or something. Even still, I don't see how preps can turn to rock for their problems. It just really pisses me off seeing these preppy girls with like a finch shirt with their 200 dollar ensembles.

Another point. How is it that people can relate more to screamo then regular annoying emo? The lyrics between the two are not really that different. Screamo just conveys it in a violent sort of manner where as emo cries about it. Why suddenly though do people feel the need to get mad and cut themselves about losing their girlfriends where as before it was just crying? are people thinking they're too big and tough for that these days?

Also, screamo is almost trying to kill pop-punk. Pop-punk, in my opinion, was music about trying to get girlfriends and telling the girl to leave the dumb preppy jock for you. Now we have screamo which is all, again in my opinion, "I'm gonna go yell scream and bitch that my girlfriend left and go into this super depression thing and chop myself up".

Bands like taking back sunday are all, getting into a relationship is like biting the bullet cause you're bound to die in the end. Why is that? Since when is being loved and getting the attention from someone you can't get away from like suicide? And girls don't just break hearts, guys can easily write about how they cheat on their girlfriends, but no one ever does, why?

It is true that there are pop-punk bands that write about losing girlfriends and being broken hearted, but why must there be this aggressive spin to it that's seemingly suicidal in screamo? I'll compare two songs, one screamo, one pop-punk, that has the same general topic but provides contrasting conclusions. Perfect example is the song "I Feel Fine" by Riddlin Kids, a pop-punk band. The song is literally feeling fine that you're girlfriend dumped you, because she was a bitch. On the other hand, take the screamo band Taking Back Sunday and observe their lyrics in "Cute without the 'E' (Cut from the Team)". It more or less describes someone going to suicide after finding the person's girlfriend with another. Both songs have similar situations, why does TBS have to give such a negative message to kids though while RK doesn't? I know all pop-punk is not like Riddlin Kids and all screamo is not like TBS and these two examples are just rash generalizations, but the point gets across. My question again is that, why would anyone choose such a negative path to something that's not worth it. If she's cheating on you, why hurt yourself when it's not your fault? Boggles the mind.

Personally, I have a friend who I'd give anything for, and she listens to tons of screamo. But I learned that she was also into the whole self-mutilation thing. I mean, it's hard to say that music did not influence what she did, but there is more and making the conclusion i did was very brash and irrational, but I don't know what else to blame.

I dunno, I'm just expressing my stand on screamo. I don't like it much, though I can tolerate it more then other types of music, but I hate the type of message it gives to some people and why people would support such a negative message. Thanks to anyone who read all of this and please post your opinions. lets kill him

[Greg]

Originally posted by mOvielife99
lets kill him

agreed....

[bluetunehead]

you guys are fucking assholes.

[Greg]

Originally posted by bluetunehead
you guys are fucking assholes.

i know. and what's worse is that "assholes" are the kind of people i can't stand the most.

[like a bad star]

here i am voicing my opinion, you are an idiot.

[richter915]

hey, thanks a shit load for reading the entire thing bluetunehead, i really appreciate it.

Originally posted by bluetunehead
we can't always act like we're 12, but ya, the new hardcore shit goes too far in the other direction, anyway....



I know it's impossible to live in the naive world of kids, but that mindset can help you sometimes. but it can really hurt you, i can't argue that.

ok, that was a horrible statement to make. it doesn't matter what type of clothes you wear, life is fucking difficult regardless. and i guarantee that more than 1 in a 1000 preps have problems in their families. every family has problems. every person has difficulty growing up, i dont care if you're the star quarterback or the drop-out working at 7-Eleven. its not easy for anyone. sure, it may be more difficult for some, but the fact that somebody can buy a 200 dollar ensemble doesn't mean they have a good life. it may mean that their parents shower them with gifts to make up for the fact that they don't pay attention to them otherwise. to make a sweeping generalization like 'preps dont have problems' is wrong. i challenge you to find one person who can say in complete honesty that their life has been a breeze.

[/B]
I know the statement i made on preps was wrong and stereotypical, I even admitted that it was. I don't have much friends (as you can probably tell) and i'm not the most popular guy at school so preps steer clear of me so i don't know what problems they have. But I guess it's the intensity of the problem for people. I overheard some preppy guy once saying to his friends "I couldn't get my car shipped from Europe to America so I just bought another one". Ya those aren't your average preps but that's still considered a problem, at least to him. Now if he goes and turns on some Finch and goes into depression cause of that, it's just dumb. Preps do have problems, i made a mistake saying they don't. but their problems are not as bad as some peoples.


it can be extremely helpful to vent your frustrations in ways other than crying. they both go hand in hand but come on, dont you ever get pissed off?

[/B]
I do get pissed off, but why do people have to take such a violent course of action to vent their frustrations whereas before, they didn't.


ya and a lot of people think thats the problem with pop-punk.

[/B]
How come people have a problem with pop-punk when you might not feel so bad about things after listening to it but you might after listening to screamo?

people do write songs about asshole guys, you probably just haven't heard them. there are plenty out there.

[/B]
Ya chances are there are songs about shithead guys.

ok, if listening to songs leads you to hurt yourself or to kill yourself, then there are other problems at hand (ive dealt with a close friend like this). next, people write songs like this because in many cases its more realistic than pop-punk. you can't sit there and put on a happy face all the time. you have to let your feelings out or else you will go insane. when people listen to bands like this, its a release for them. yes, many of these bands take it overboard, often bordering on mysoginistic lyrics. but also, when a band like TBS writes these songs, chances are they are writing them so that they won't carry it out in life. writing can be very soothing. saying that 'i'm going to slit my throat' is a way of expressing the fact that its how they feel, its not the same as doing it. when you get metaphorically shit on by someone at the end of a relationship, you feel anger, resentment, bitterness. these songs are expressing these feelings.

[/B]
I understand that there's music about venting emotion, but how come people are supporting such a negative form of ventilation. As weird as that sounds, people would rather listen to going insane over a relationship then trying to get over it and move on? I dunno

i've gone through that one with a close friend and its a shitty deal. sorry. yes, if they let themselves get swallowed up in the music, it can push them in that way. but the point is, if they aren't strong enough to note the difference, then they need help regardless. if you listen to a song and you decide to hurt yourself, it is very tragic, but the emotional problem and your difficulty dealing with it through non-damaging ways was present before you ever listened to the song.

that really sucks about your friend because i've been there. its tragic. listening to so much negative music may not be the best thing to do in that situation, and thats perfectly understandable, but for many people it is helpful. i know listening to any music with honest and powerful lyrics is helpful for me. but getting lost in them to the point where you start living the lyrics is a problem. in those cases, hell ya, throw on pop-punk. good luck with your friend. [/B]

Sorry to hear about your friend. But when people are down and feeling like you know, this is it I can't take it anymore, why would they choose screamo when it's likely to push them over the edge. Sometimes I wish i could've done something for my friend, and I'm sure you feel the same, and this is something I really think might have helped her not have endless nights of tears and agony.

[richter915]

Originally posted by like a bad star
here i am voicing my opinion, you are an idiot.

Why am I an idiot?

[richter915]

Originally posted by mOvielife99
lets kill him

Why exactly do you guys want me dead?

[mOvielife99]

you type too much

[day in paradise]

Screamo Sucks.

[suckerpunch_]

i cant believe that dude wasted so much time writing

did anyone read past the first sentence

[richter915]

ya well when you're a loser with no life like i am, you spend alot of time on seemingly pointless stuff.

[Screamo]

yea i kind of take this thread personally...

your not sick of me are you?

[richter915]

no, i don't even know who you are

[day in paradise]

Originally posted by Screamo
yea i kind of take this thread personally...

your not sick of me are you?

i want to disembowel you with a wooden cooking spoon.

[SomePerson22]

This is sort of off topic but not. Just about TBS. I don't remember what you said about them actually. But they're songs aren't all about boy-girl relationships. They've said before that many of the songs are about friendships, and they talk about how important friendships are a lot. "There's No 'I' In Team" for example...

I just wanted to say something. :rolleyes:

[day in paradise]

Originally posted by SomePerson22
This is sort of off topic but not. Just about TBS. I don't remember what you said about them actually. But they're songs aren't all about boy-girl relationships. They've said before that many of the songs are about friendships, and they talk about how important friendships are a lot. "There's No 'I' In Team" for example...

I just wanted to say something. :rolleyes:

TBS is horrible.

[SomePerson22]

No they're not.

[TheUsedNoBodie]

Originally posted by richter915
Hey. Recently I've noticed this sudden surge of screamo around here, and surely anywhere else across the nation. Even though scream has only gotten big in the past 6 months or so, it's really sickening me. I wanted to know if anyone else but me felt the same way. I wanted to know why people gave up streaking for cutting themselves. Why did all the lively, vibrant colors of pop-punk died down to the black, grey, and blood-red of screamo? Before you answer though, consider some things i'll post.

First off, is the preps. Ya it's real stereotypical, but I quite frankly don't care. People say that screamo is a more aggressive genre for people to listen to and help solve their problems. It's kind of like shock therapy. but, since when do preps have problems? There's like 1 in a thousand who has like a drunken father or something. Even still, I don't see how preps can turn to rock for their problems. It just really pisses me off seeing these preppy girls with like a finch shirt with their 200 dollar ensembles.

Another point. How is it that people can relate more to screamo then regular annoying emo? The lyrics between the two are not really that different. Screamo just conveys it in a violent sort of manner where as emo cries about it. Why suddenly though do people feel the need to get mad and cut themselves about losing their girlfriends where as before it was just crying? are people thinking they're too big and tough for that these days?

Also, screamo is almost trying to kill pop-punk. Pop-punk, in my opinion, was music about trying to get girlfriends and telling the girl to leave the dumb preppy jock for you. Now we have screamo which is all, again in my opinion, "I'm gonna go yell scream and bitch that my girlfriend left and go into this super depression thing and chop myself up".

Bands like taking back sunday are all, getting into a relationship is like biting the bullet cause you're bound to die in the end. Why is that? Since when is being loved and getting the attention from someone you can't get away from like suicide? And girls don't just break hearts, guys can easily write about how they cheat on their girlfriends, but no one ever does, why?

It is true that there are pop-punk bands that write about losing girlfriends and being broken hearted, but why must there be this aggressive spin to it that's seemingly suicidal in screamo? I'll compare two songs, one screamo, one pop-punk, that has the same general topic but provides contrasting conclusions. Perfect example is the song "I Feel Fine" by Riddlin Kids, a pop-punk band. The song is literally feeling fine that you're girlfriend dumped you, because she was a bitch. On the other hand, take the screamo band Taking Back Sunday and observe their lyrics in "Cute without the 'E' (Cut from the Team)". It more or less describes someone going to suicide after finding the person's girlfriend with another. Both songs have similar situations, why does TBS have to give such a negative message to kids though while RK doesn't? I know all pop-punk is not like Riddlin Kids and all screamo is not like TBS and these two examples are just rash generalizations, but the point gets across. My question again is that, why would anyone choose such a negative path to something that's not worth it. If she's cheating on you, why hurt yourself when it's not your fault? Boggles the mind.

Personally, I have a friend who I'd give anything for, and she listens to tons of screamo. But I learned that she was also into the whole self-mutilation thing. I mean, it's hard to say that music did not influence what she did, but there is more and making the conclusion i did was very brash and irrational, but I don't know what else to blame.

I dunno, I'm just expressing my stand on screamo. I don't like it much, though I can tolerate it more then other types of music, but I hate the type of message it gives to some people and why people would support such a negative message. Thanks to anyone who read all of this and please post your opinions.

wow. I didn't read it all, how long did that take?

[bluetunehead]

in all seriousness, you guys are fucking dicks. this post obviously is a very real issue for this kid and you lazy pricks make fun of him for writing anything longer than a paragraph. its one thing not to read it, but if you don't, quit the damn comments. he has legit points and the base issue behind it is very serious.

so in conclusion, grow up or just fuck off. preferably the latter.

[richter915]

hey. Thanks again bluetunehead. Ya, i dunno people either don't understand or don't care. There's no reason to criticize without a basis though.

I just wanted to clear some stuff up with my friend. She used to be into screamo and stuff but like she says she's not now and she isn't but ya i dunno. but thing's have changed and she doesn't do it anymore so i'm real happy and stuff. But the fact that there was this time where things weren't good and her advocacy of screamo didn't help, and i don't understand how it can help others.

[SomePerson22]

i don't know if what i said came across as me being an asshole. sorry if it did, that wasn't my intention.

[richter915]

nah not you dude. it's other people who are all "this shit is stupid i didn't read more then one sentence". Ignorance is just annoying.

[Matthew]

Where to begin on your rampant display of idiocy....

The first paragraph is ok. That's just your opinion. I can't debate that. The rest of it though, is complete bullshit.

First of all, I don't see many preps listening to Finch and TBS anyway, its mostly "punk" kids. Second, saying that someone is a "prep" and therefore has no problems is horribly immature. I know a guy who is a "prep" and I always stereotyped him as shallow and well-provided for. I've gotten to know him a lot better and it turns out his parents haven't lived together for over a year and are getting a divorce. His dad is always working and his mom is to busy looking out for herself to notice him much.
Another girl that I know, again, a "prep", is always trying to live up to the pressure her aprents put on her to be good at everything. She stresses out over every point on every math grade, and never really looks happy.
Prep, jock, geek, nerd, punk, or kicker, EVREYBODY has problems, and the fact that you can't see that is really sad.

And just as everybody has problems, everybody solves them differently, and evryone can "vent" in their own way. When I'm angry or sad or anything else, screaming along with my CD's is a graet way to pick myself up. I like Screamo becasue it ha a melody, which is soothing, but the rough-around-the-edges screams and yells accents the anger and unpredictabiity of human emotion. Wrapping up every problem in a pop-punk ditty seems fake to me. Screamo is just more real.
To me, emo isn't real enough. Its too pefect, too melodic. There's no edges and no flaws. A spontaneous scream amidst a song captures how pain feels in real life - not perfect or pretty, but complex and confusing.

Also, "cute w/o the e" does not denote sucide or glorify it. To me the lyric "and will you tell all your friends you've got our gun to my head?" expresses a feeling of helplessness, that this one person has become your whole world and they seem not to care that they've just brought it crashing down. Its not promoting a violent solution, its just trying to capture the inner turmoil of a broken heart.
And not all screamo is negative. Maybe I'm just wierd but "A Box Full of Sharp Objects" by the Used, "Cute W/o The E" by TBS, and "A Song for the Optomists" by Atreyu are all songs that pick me up.

And your friend who cut herself (sorry to hear that, I have a friend who used to, and its scary) was probably facing a variety of issues at the time. Blaming her choice of music for her actions is not right.I've met a girl who was into boy bands and britney and she cut herslef. I listen to screamo and so does one of my friends, and we both think suicide is selfish and stupid. We are both happy, upbeat people who just like to scream.

[everytimeidie]

Originally posted by richter915
Hey. Recently I've noticed this sudden surge of screamo around here, and surely anywhere else across the nation. Even though scream has only gotten big in the past 6 months or so, it's really sickening me. I wanted to know if anyone else but me felt the same way. I wanted to know why people gave up streaking for cutting themselves. Why did all the lively, vibrant colors of pop-punk died down to the black, grey, and blood-red of screamo? Before you answer though, consider some things i'll post.

First off, is the preps. Ya it's real stereotypical, but I quite frankly don't care. People say that screamo is a more aggressive genre for people to listen to and help solve their problems. It's kind of like shock therapy. but, since when do preps have problems? There's like 1 in a thousand who has like a drunken father or something. Even still, I don't see how preps can turn to rock for their problems. It just really pisses me off seeing these preppy girls with like a finch shirt with their 200 dollar ensembles.

Another point. How is it that people can relate more to screamo then regular annoying emo? The lyrics between the two are not really that different. Screamo just conveys it in a violent sort of manner where as emo cries about it. Why suddenly though do people feel the need to get mad and cut themselves about losing their girlfriends where as before it was just crying? are people thinking they're too big and tough for that these days?

Also, screamo is almost trying to kill pop-punk. Pop-punk, in my opinion, was music about trying to get girlfriends and telling the girl to leave the dumb preppy jock for you. Now we have screamo which is all, again in my opinion, "I'm gonna go yell scream and bitch that my girlfriend left and go into this super depression thing and chop myself up".

Bands like taking back sunday are all, getting into a relationship is like biting the bullet cause you're bound to die in the end. Why is that? Since when is being loved and getting the attention from someone you can't get away from like suicide? And girls don't just break hearts, guys can easily write about how they cheat on their girlfriends, but no one ever does, why?

It is true that there are pop-punk bands that write about losing girlfriends and being broken hearted, but why must there be this aggressive spin to it that's seemingly suicidal in screamo? I'll compare two songs, one screamo, one pop-punk, that has the same general topic but provides contrasting conclusions. Perfect example is the song "I Feel Fine" by Riddlin Kids, a pop-punk band. The song is literally feeling fine that you're girlfriend dumped you, because she was a bitch. On the other hand, take the screamo band Taking Back Sunday and observe their lyrics in "Cute without the 'E' (Cut from the Team)". It more or less describes someone going to suicide after finding the person's girlfriend with another. Both songs have similar situations, why does TBS have to give such a negative message to kids though while RK doesn't? I know all pop-punk is not like Riddlin Kids and all screamo is not like TBS and these two examples are just rash generalizations, but the point gets across. My question again is that, why would anyone choose such a negative path to something that's not worth it. If she's cheating on you, why hurt yourself when it's not your fault? Boggles the mind.

Personally, I have a friend who I'd give anything for, and she listens to tons of screamo. But I learned that she was also into the whole self-mutilation thing. I mean, it's hard to say that music did not influence what she did, but there is more and making the conclusion i did was very brash and irrational, but I don't know what else to blame.

I dunno, I'm just expressing my stand on screamo. I don't like it much, though I can tolerate it more then other types of music, but I hate the type of message it gives to some people and why people would support such a negative message. Thanks to anyone who read all of this and please post your opinions.
That is not fucking screamo dude. That is just emo and pop-punk. Screamo is something TOTALLY different that you have NEVER heard. Fuck.

[Greg]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy


Prep, jock, geek, nerd, punk, or kicker, EVREYBODY has problems, and the fact that you can't see that is really sad.

To me, emo isn't real enough. Its too pefect, too melodic. There's no edges and no flaws. A spontaneous scream amidst a song captures how pain feels in real life - not perfect or pretty, but complex and confusing.

Also, "cute w/o the e" does not denote sucide or glorify it. To me the lyric "and will you tell all your friends you've got our gun to my head?" expresses a feeling of helplessness, that this one person has become your whole world and they seem not to care that they've just brought it crashing down. Its not promoting a violent solution, its just trying to capture the inner turmoil of a broken heart.
And not all screamo is negative. Maybe I'm just wierd but "A Box Full of Sharp Objects" by the Used, "Cute W/o The E" by TBS, and "A Song for the Optomists" by Atreyu are all songs that pick me up.

We are both happy, upbeat people who just like to scream.

holy shit somebody said something inteligent. THANK YOU ScreamoEMOBoy. i agree with you 100%

[richter915]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
Where to begin on your rampant display of idiocy....

Prep, jock, geek, nerd, punk, or kicker, EVREYBODY has problems, and the fact that you can't see that is really sad.


screamoemoboy, thanks for actually reading the post.

I know people have problems, if you read some of my other posts, i said that all people do have problems. It's the intensity of the problem though. Some people piss and moan about the most pointless shit, those people happen to be these preps. If you read the first or second sentence on that paragraph about preps, i said my comments would be stereotypical so i'm not denying that what i said was a brash, simple-minded consensus about preps. I'm just saying you don't have to call me an idiot when I already said I am one, now shouldn't i just call you an illiterate fool for doing that? i could but i won't.

With your analysis on "cute w/o the "e"", i think it comes down to a person's perception. You hear that line and think what you want, I hear that line and think what I want. What i felt was unfair was how you blatantly called me an idiot for voicing my view on that song. Now, i'm not going to go and call you an idiot for thinking how you do, but why do you have to call me one for thinking how i do? Since when was there a law against free thought and free opinion?

Your post is probably the best one up cause it answered my question on what makes screamo so appealing. I never understood the authenticity and uniqueness in screamo, but it's felt alot by you and alot of others i bet, so now i know. thanks.

With my friend (sorry to hear about yours btw), i know she had tons of other shit and i bet her music was the very very last thing to make her do it, if it did at all. But I don't think hearing it made her want to stop. But I'm not saying all people who hurt themselves listen to screamo which you assumed.

I didn't think you, or anyone else, needed to criticize me on my opinion of screamo, preps, and whatever the fuck people hate me about. My view of preps is different from yours, probably due to contrasting experiences with them. You said one of your friends was a prep and you found out more about him that way, I don't know a single prep that would want to befriend me, so I can't know what you do. That's why i said my commentson preps would be stereotypical and condescending.

Now, if i wanted i could say all you people who berated me were dumbasses because you missed the main point of my original post. All I wanted was to know your opinions on screamo, not your opinions on my opinions.

[richter915]

Originally posted by everytimeidie
That is not fucking screamo dude. That is just emo and pop-punk. Screamo is something TOTALLY different that you have NEVER heard. Fuck.

then tell me what screamo is.