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selftitled85
03/12/06, 04:41 PM
how the 6th ranked team in the country is a number 8 seed and if it goes onto the second round must play number one duke?

ncaa did a terrible job again...

ActorInThisPlay
03/12/06, 04:43 PM
wow that is shitty...this is why I can't stand college sports to a point. they always fuck something up in the rankings

FondestMemory
03/12/06, 04:43 PM
who did they play that makes you think they should be much higher?

they're a 6 seed at best.

if they'd have breezed through their conference tourney, they'd have been a seed or two higher. they didn't, so therefore, 8th seed.

selftitled85
03/12/06, 04:44 PM
who did they play that makes you think they should be much higher?

they're a 6 seed at best.

if they'd have breezed through their conference tourney, they'd have been a seed or two higher. they didn't, so therefore, 8th seed.


so? look at gonzaga...a third seed and time and time again escaped with last second victories over teams that are supposedly much worse than them.

ActorInThisPlay
03/12/06, 04:44 PM
who did they play that makes you think they should be much higher?

they're a 6 seed at best.

if they'd have breezed through their conference tourney, they'd have been a seed or two higher. they didn't, so therefore, 8th seed.
yeah but if they are 6th in the country how are they at least not the 6th seed in their own bracket?

hockey0001
03/12/06, 04:47 PM
so? look at gonzaga...a third seed and time and time again escaped with last second victories over teams that are supposedly much worse than them.

and they won their conference tourney and played a tougher ooc schedule. Gonzaga got screwed also, they should have been a 2 seed

FondestMemory
03/12/06, 04:47 PM
yeah but if they are 6th in the country how are they at least not the 6th seed in their own bracket?

well, first off, the top 25 has absolutely nothing to do with the seeding, or even the selection process for that matter.

also, they just lost this week, so in a new poll they wouldn't be sixth.

selftitled85
03/12/06, 04:49 PM
and they won their conference tourney and played a tougher ooc schedule


so? last time i checked uconn and nova both got knocked out in their tourney...

FondestMemory
03/12/06, 04:49 PM
so? look at gonzaga...a third seed and time and time again escaped with last second victories over teams that are supposedly much worse than them.

last second wins are still wins. and that's all that matters.

plus, they did breeze through their conference and played a tougher overall schedule. a three seed fits them perfect. some people could probably even argue they deserve a two seed.

hockey0001
03/12/06, 04:50 PM
so? last time i checked uconn and nova both got knocked out in their tourney...


haha wow. So now youre comparing what Uconn and Nova did during the season to what GW did?

FondestMemory
03/12/06, 04:50 PM
so? last time i checked uconn and nova both got knocked out in their tourney...

haha. ok. nice argument. know what'll be fun? let's try to make comparisons between the big east and gw's conference.

selftitled85
03/12/06, 04:54 PM
haha wow. So now youre comparing what Uconn and Nova did during the season to what GW did?

no im not. im comparing the fact the uconn and nova did not win their tournament yet are still number one seeds. gw went undefeated in their div and lost the champ game. there are much worse teams higher than them.

hockey0001
03/12/06, 04:58 PM
no im not. im comparing the fact the uconn and nova did not win their tournament yet are still number one seeds. gw went undefeated in their div and lost the champ game. there are much worse teams higher than them.

UConn had the most wins against the rpi top 25, and the rpi top 50. They had a #1 before the BE tourney started. So did Nova. GW plays in a weak conference and had a weak ooc schedule. Didnt their top player also just get injured? That probably had an effect on it.

FondestMemory
03/12/06, 04:59 PM
no im not. im comparing the fact the uconn and nova did not win their tournament yet are still number one seeds. gw went undefeated in their div and lost the champ game. there are much worse teams higher than them.

gw didn't lose the championship game. they lost their first game of the tourney in the quarterfinals.

also, before this week, uconn would have more than likely been the overall number one seed. now they're not. nova lost a game where their best player went down. both of those teams still deserve number one seeds, despite losing in their tourney.

selftitled85
03/12/06, 05:02 PM
UConn had the most wins against the rpi top 25, and the rpi top 50. They had a #1 before the BE tourney started. So did Nova. GW plays in a weak conference and had a weak ooc schedule. Didnt their top player also just get injured? That probably had an effect on it.


ok fine. an example of a higher seeded team that is not proven to be better is lsu. lsu played 5 top 25 teams and only beat one, though a good one, west virginia. they lost to ohio state, uconn, and florida twice. they also lost to northern iowa who is in a much weaker conference.

selftitled85
03/12/06, 05:04 PM
gw didn't lose the championship game. they lost their first game of the tourney in the quarterfinals.

also, before this week, uconn would have more than likely been the overall number one seed. now they're not. nova lost a game where their best player went down. both of those teams still deserve number one seeds, despite losing in their tourney.

so if you're saying it goes by everything that went on during the season and not just the final game i think a team that lost two games all year before the tournament and was in the top 10 for a while deserves to be a higher seed than 8

FondestMemory
03/12/06, 05:10 PM
so if you're saying it goes by everything that went on during the season and not just the final game i think a team that lost two games all year before the tournament and was in the top 10 for a while deserves to be a higher seed than 8

but who did they play during the season? their schedule isn't overly difficult. they're a good team, but they haven't proven they're a great team.

and sadly, injuries sometimes come into play with the selection committee. if it were guarenteed popps would play, maybe that'd make a difference. but it still wouldn't have them higher than a six or seven.

eight sounds about right for them. they were a twelve last year, so that's a hell of an improvement.

emoishardcore
03/12/06, 05:48 PM
to me its just like the nba playoff system. they dont really set up good 2nd round or later games...it'd be too difficult to put teams in the place you would like them to be to hope for a good 3rd round game. the problem with this is that if theres a upset then the winning team will ahve another touhg game ahead.

the end result is that regardless of when you play a team, if your the ebst, youll be in the championship game. no ones playing for 4th place, so in my opinion, youll end up playing the best team anyways so it shouldnt matter when you lose. if you lose, you lose

preppyak
03/12/06, 06:55 PM
ok fine. an example of a higher seeded team that is not proven to be better is lsu. lsu played 5 top 25 teams and only beat one, though a good one, west virginia. they lost to ohio state, uconn, and florida twice. they also lost to northern iowa who is in a much weaker conference.
LSU should ahve been a 5 seed, MVC should have gotten 5 bids, and Arkansas/Albama, one of the two, should be sitting at home. Tennesse should be a 3 seed. Basically the SEC got a huge boost, and by bids, is a better conference than the ACC?

I don't even think the SEC is better than the Big 12

Clarett'sGreyGoose
03/12/06, 06:59 PM
LSU should ahve been a 5 seed, MVC should have gotten 5 bids, and Arkansas/Albama, one of the two, should be sitting at home. Tennesse should be a 3 seed. Basically the SEC got a huge boost, and by bids, is a better conference than the ACC?

I don't even think the SEC is better than the Big 12
Air Force should be at home right now.

preppyak
03/12/06, 07:00 PM
Air Force should be at home right now.
yep, agreed, as should Seton Hall and George Mason...in their place Hofstra and Cincy should be in

Clarett'sGreyGoose
03/12/06, 07:01 PM
yep, agreed, as should Seton Hall and George Mason...in their place Hofstra and Cincy should be in
Hofstra should definitely be in. I don't care what conference they played in, they were 24-6 and if I remember what I have heard correctly, they BEAT George Mason.

Drew Beringer
03/12/06, 07:03 PM
Gonzaga should so have a 2 seed, not Tennessee.