Bitter Much?

[TJ Wells]

Wow, apparently some people just can't get over the fact (http://articles.news.aol.com/special3/article.adp?id=20060314180209990003 &ncid=AOLMOV00150000000007) that Crash won best picture. What a bitch.

[Signals Corrupted]

thats pretty gay. (lol)

[primate1]

1) Fuck the Oscars.

2) Contrary to popular belief, the Oscars are not the best of the best. The true best films are often competely overlooked by the Oscars. The winner for best picture is never the ACTUAL best picture of the year. (The real best picture isn't even nominated most years.)

3) Crash IS a really good film. It's really rare that I actually like a Best Picture winner.

4) I don't think the person who wrote the story on which the film is based is the most reliable judge as to whether the film deserves the Oscar. Might be a slight bias, there, I'm not sure.

I haven't seen Brokeback, but all the whining about it not winning Best picture has turned me off from actually wanting to see it. From the get go it seemed like it was a prestige flick made solely to win Oscars. Fuck that shit. Ang Lee is a good director, (worth noting that he was the first non-white man to win Best Director, but you don't see Proulx commenting on anything like that,) but any interest I had in seeing that film is continually diminishing the more I hear people whine about it being "robbed".

So yeah, fuck her and her short story. She needs to grow the fuck up and learn that not winning isn't the end of the world.

[TJ Wells]

1) Fuck the Oscars.

2) Contrary to popular belief, the Oscars are not the best of the best. The true best films are often competely overlooked by the Oscars. The winner for best picture is never the ACTUAL best picture of the year. (The real best picture isn't even nominated most years.)

3) Crash IS a really good film. It's really rare that I actually like a Best Picture winner.

4) I don't think the person who wrote the story on which the film is based is the most reliable judge as to whether the film deserves the Oscar. Might be a slight bias, there, I'm not sure.

I haven't seen Brokeback, but all the whining about it not winning Best picture has turned me off from actually wanting to see it. From the get go it seemed like it was a prestige flick made solely to win Oscars. Fuck that shit. Ang Lee is a good director, (worth noting that he was the first non-white man to win Best Director, but you don't see Proulx commenting on anything like that,) but any interest I had in seeing that film is continually diminishing the more I hear people whine about it being "robbed".

So yeah, fuck her and her short story. She needs to grow the fuck up and learn that not winning isn't the end of the world.
couldn't of said it much better.

[radiofriendly]

what a joke. what i hate the most is that it got to the point where if Brokeback didn't when something, everybody cried homophobe. this is just hysteria. i was one of many people who found Crash to be the better picture and most deserving. the only reason it was an upset is because of the media hype that Brokeback gained. it's silly.

[morte]

In my opinion it really deserved the Best Film award. It was an incredible film, however Brokeback Montain was a bit boring and slow for me.

[morte]

what a joke. what i hate the most is that it got to the point where if Brokeback didn't when something, everybody cried homophobe. this is just hysteria. i was one of many people who found Crash to be the better picture and most deserving. the only reason it was an upset is because of the media hype that Brokeback gained. it's silly.Very true.

[TJ Wells]

the part that pissed me off was when she goes "trash - excuse me - i mean crash"

[radiofriendly]

the part that pissed me off was when she goes "trash - excuse me - i mean crash"

i know. this woman has won the pulitzer. she should be ashamed. i think this dissertation was longer than the actual short story itself.

btw** has anybody ever read brokeback mountain? if you get the chance you should. not that its good or bad. just interested in seeing what everybody thought about it. i personally couldn't get into it. and it was over as soon as it started. i dunno...

[Timberwolf]

the part that pissed me off was when she goes "trash - excuse me - i mean crash"
Yeah that comment pretty much shot any integrity she otherwise had. Of course not everyones gonna be happy with what wins but someone in her position compaining in such a manner is pathetic.

[kirbs84]

oh cry me a fucking river

[Pat Brown]

Waiting should've won best picture.

[brandnizzle32]

Waiting should've won best picture.


i agree and Dane Cook for best supporting actor..... damn we should be on the panel

[JunkBondTrader]

wow that was childish, but Brokeback Mountain was still alot better than Crash. Crash doesnt touch it at all but eh its ok. I enjoyed Crash. I bought it. Ill buy Brokeback Mountain as well. But there is no denying that Brokeback Mountain is the better film. King Kong and Walk The Line were also better than Crash.

[thejetstolehome]

bitter bitch babbling because brokeback finshed behind crash

aliteration aside, i think this woman is being ridunkulously immature; especially by calling it 'trash.' honestly, are we in fourth grade?

[DroppedUrPocket]

Ridiculous.

[marbury1414]

Brokeback should have won, but this is uncalled for. Calling it "Trash"? Good, mature comeback. miss 70 year old Pulitzer prize winner.

[Spooky]

if brokeback had won, i'm sure she'd be saying how great crash was

[primate1]

I want to know exactly what makes Brokeback so worthy of Best Picture. I haven't seen it. Someone sell it to me. From what I can gather right now, it's basically a love story with two dudes instead of a male and a female. What's so special about it?

what i hate the most is that it got to the point where if Brokeback didn't when something, everybody cried homophobe.

Yeah, no kidding. Nevermind the fact that Philip Seymour Hoffman won Best Actor for playing TRUMAN FUCKING CAPOTE! Idiots.

[TJ Wells]

I want to know exactly what makes Brokeback so worthy of Best Picture. I haven't seen it. Someone sell it to me. From what I can gather right now, it's basically a love story with two dudes instead of a male and a female. What's so special about it?



Yeah, no kidding. Nevermind the fact that Philip Seymour Hoffman won Best Actor for playing TRUMAN FUCKING CAPOTE! Idiots.
ha thats a great point

[A picasso blue]

isnt this guy supposed to be congratulating them for doing a good job? way to ruin his image

[radiofriendly]

Yeah, no kidding. Nevermind the fact that Philip Seymour Hoffman won Best Actor for playing TRUMAN FUCKING CAPOTE! Idiots.

PRECISELY! and then all the sudden the academy "wasn't courageous for nominating the film" in the first place. give me a break.

[DeathCabForCoon]

Talk about class. Thats something a high school football captain would write about an opposing team after they lost in the state championship. She is a child.

[A picasso blue]

I want to know exactly what makes Brokeback so worthy of Best Picture. I haven't seen it. Someone sell it to me. From what I can gather right now, it's basically a love story with two dudes instead of a male and a female. What's so special about it?
.

I have not seen it either, but my personal opinion is that everyone feels obligated to say how great is it because its about gay men ---> as in, to be "polticially correct and promote diversity".

[marbury1414]

I want to know exactly what makes Brokeback so worthy of Best Picture. I haven't seen it. Someone sell it to me. From what I can gather right now, it's basically a love story with two dudes instead of a male and a female. What's so special about it?



Yeah, no kidding. Nevermind the fact that Philip Seymour Hoffman won Best Actor for playing TRUMAN FUCKING CAPOTE! Idiots.

Go into my profile, click on my threads and read my review of it. Please.

[marbury1414]

I have not seen it either, but my personal opinion is that everyone feels obligated to say how great is it because its about gay men ---> as in, to be "polticially correct and promote diversity".

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Don't assume anything until you see it for yourself. Then you can be free to give your opinion.

[lostntheseethru]

i havent seen brokeback mountain yet, but i didnt like crash. i cant really judge as to whether brokeback should have won, but i dont know why crash did. the only other movie nominated that i have seen was walk the line and i dont think it deserved it either...either way, being immature like this woman is doesnt make anything any better.

[primate1]

Go into my profile, click on my threads and read my review of it. Please.Alright, cool, thanks.

[marbury1414]

Alright, cool, thanks.

No prob.

[cantnokdahustle]

And the Oscar goes to..... Titanic:rotfl: :rotfl:

yeah... it's kinda like that....

[primate1]

Go into my profile, click on my threads and read my review of it. Please.Done and odone. Sounds good. As tainted as it is for me, I definitely have to check it out.

[dashboard1190]

I haven't seen Brokeback Mountain, but I want to eventually. I really enjoyed Crash and thought it was a great film on many levels. But I personally am happy that Brokeback Mountain didn't win, because everyone was saying that it will, and all of the media hype blew it way out of proportion.

[radiofriendly]

And the Oscar goes to..... Titanic:rotfl: :rotfl:

yeah... it's kinda like that....

Titanic was a stunning directing achievment. a masterpiece in filmmaking. as banal as the dialogue was, the film was brought to life with great perfromances and some pretty vivid recreation. better than L.A. Confidential? depends on who you ask. i personally would've given the edge to LA Confidential that year.

[DroppedUrPocket]

i personally would've given the edge to LA Confidential that year.
Agreed. What a great film.

[primate1]

Titanic was a stunning directing achievment. a masterpiece in filmmaking. as banal as the dialogue was, the film was brought to life with great perfromances and some pretty vivid recreation. better than L.A. Confidential? depends on who you ask. i personally would've given the edge to LA Confidential that year.Technically speaking, yeah, Titanic is a pretty impressive achievement. But no way, artistically speaking, is it anywhere close to being a masterpiece. It was too long, and far too dull.

[Kif]

Haha, that was fucking hilarious. Not only does she bitch about Brokeback not winning because the Academy are out of touch with America, but she rants about the awards themselves, Crash and the film's studio! This only makes me want to see Brokeback less.

[niveK]

Brokeback was good. I though it deserved the Oscars it won. However I didn't think it was the best film released last year. Was Crash? It was great, but a watered down and defrogged version of Magnolia. AS was stated before the Oscar doesn't usually go to the best movie released, if it did Forrest Gump wouldnt have beat Shawshank Redemption

[primate1]

Was Crash? It was great, but a watered down and defrogged version of Magnolia.Haha, so true. Magnolia > Crash

[lanolynn]

this was just a year where no one movie stood out but a massive media train pushed brokeback down everyone's throats, which backfired on it.

[niveK]

pushed brokeback down everyone's throats

HAHAHHAHA

reminds me of Bill Maher's comment "If Brokeback Mountian taught us anything, it's that it is okay to come in No. 2"

[marbury1414]

Done and odone. Sounds good. As tainted as it is for me, I definitely have to check it out.

I'm glad it persuaded you a little.

[marbury1414]

Brokeback was good. I though it deserved the Oscars it won. However I didn't think it was the best film released last year. Was Crash? It was great, but a watered down and defrogged version of Magnolia. AS was stated before the Oscar doesn't usually go to the best movie released, if it did Forrest Gump wouldnt have beat Shawshank Redemption

That's not really a good example. That year was a total toss up because Forrest Gump was an amazing movie as well as Shawshank.

[radiofriendly]

AS was stated before the Oscar doesn't usually go to the best movie released, if it did Forrest Gump wouldnt have beat Shawshank Redemption

neither would have beaten Quiz Show
...or Pulp Fiction
...or Four Weddings And A Funeral

Shawshank Redemption was over-8-ted

Forrest Gump was good(scatterbrained, surfaced, but good), and it had the Blockbuster tag. plus Tom Hanks gave the best performance that year. i guess it kind of deserved to win.

what did you think was the best picture last year?

[JunkBondTrader]

im sorry but it still makes me sick that kids on this forum think that Brokeback Mountain is getting hype and buzz because its about 2 men.. you are just as immature as the author. you fucking kids. grow up. First, see the movie. You will see that it is a FUCKING INSTANT CLASSIC. its moving, its beautiful. its an amazing movie. its better than crash.

and no radiofriendly no one yelled homophobe if Brokeback didnt win, you sound like a reverse of the author. fucking pathetic. Heath ledger was the 2nd best performance of the year.

1. Hoffman
2. Ledger
3. Pheonix

thats how it goes, everyone knows that.

[gilatron5000]

im sorry but it still makes me sick that kids on this forum think that Brokeback Mountain is getting hype and buzz because its about 2 men.. you are just as immature as the author. you fucking kids. grow up. First, see the movie. You will see that it is a FUCKING INSTANT CLASSIC. its moving, its beautiful. its an amazing movie. its better than crash.

and no radiofriendly no one yelled homophobe if Brokeback didnt win, you sound like a reverse of the author. fucking pathetic. Heath ledger was the 2nd best performance of the year.

1. Hoffman
2. Ledger
3. Pheonix

thats how it goes, everyone knows that.C'mon man. I mean, I agree that this whole controversy is immature and stupid, but even before the movie was released, the media was hyping and buzzing Brokeback Mountain as "the gay cowboy movie." Brokeback has even entered pop culture slang as something that comes off as "gay".

[radiofriendly]

im sorry but it still makes me sick that kids on this forum think that Brokeback Mountain is getting hype and buzz because its about 2 men.. you are just as immature as the author. you fucking kids. grow up. First, see the movie. You will see that it is a FUCKING INSTANT CLASSIC. its moving, its beautiful. its an amazing movie. its better than crash.

and no radiofriendly no one yelled homophobe if Brokeback didnt win, you sound like a reverse of the author. fucking pathetic. Heath ledger was the 2nd best performance of the year.

1. Hoffman
2. Ledger
3. Pheonix

thats how it goes, everyone knows that.

sorry man, you've said a lot of dumbass things, but you can't back any of this up. i took it straight from the horses mouth. you've got Larry McMurtry, Ang Lee(FYI, that's the director and the screenwriter), even his wife griping about how Hollywood simply won't recognize this film as the best picture because of the homosexual content. oh yeah and about every other critic who didn't pick Crash to win it to begin with. here's a source (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060306/OSCARS/603070301). the only thing your proving with your rant is sour grapes.

yes this movie was beautiful...to the few people that saw it. this movie was nothing but surfaced hype about gay cowboys. you're an idiot to think otherwise. All the critical reviews in the world couldn't have reversed the homosexual powertrain this movie was packing. just look at the box office tally. just shy of $83 million domestic and more then 20% of it in the last two weeks. nobody saw the damn movie until it was decried as the biggest upset in Oscar history. hell it wasn't even wide release until late january. everybody knew it didn't matter though, except for you i guess. this movie was boiling in the media long before anybody was even thinking limited release. this film is getting the biggest oscar backlash ever. Saving Private Ryan supporters weren't close to have this rage. and it certainly wasn't because it was THAT much better than crash. i need an aspirin...

[yutsmcgee]

that stupid she***. jk

[JunkBondTrader]

sorry man, you've said a lot of dumbass things, but you can't back any of this up. i took it straight from the horses mouth. you've got Larry McMurtry, Ang Lee(FYI, that's the director and the screenwriter), even his wife griping about how Hollywood simply won't recognize this film as the best picture because of the homosexual content. oh yeah and about every other critic who didn't pick Crash to win it to begin with. here's a source (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060306/OSCARS/603070301). the only thing your proving with your rant is sour grapes.

yes this movie was beautiful...to the few people that saw it. this movie was nothing but surfaced hype about gay cowboys. you're an idiot to think otherwise. All the critical reviews in the world couldn't have reversed the homosexual powertrain this movie was packing. just look at the box office tally. just shy of $83 million domestic and more then 20% of it in the last two weeks. nobody saw the damn movie until it was decried as the biggest upset in Oscar history. hell it wasn't even wide release until late january. everybody knew it didn't matter though, except for you i guess. this movie was boiling in the media long before anybody was even thinking limited release. this film is getting the biggest oscar backlash ever. Saving Private Ryan supporters weren't close to have this rage. and it certainly wasn't because it was THAT much better than crash. i need an aspirin...
maybe I was a little hostile, and I apologize for that. but I do not think GAY COWBOYS when I think Brokeback Mountain, and honestly, I dont agree with you that you think that thats what its about. Its about forbidden love, not gay cowboys. I think when people say "oooo its just a move about gay cowboys.." i personally think thats extremely shallow. Theres much more than that.

[IAPAI]

crash won because of scientology!

[radiofriendly]

maybe I was a little hostile, and I apologize for that. but I do not think GAY COWBOYS when I think Brokeback Mountain, and honestly, I dont agree with you that you think that thats what its about. Its about forbidden love, not gay cowboys. I think when people say "oooo its just a move about gay cowboys.." i personally think thats extremely shallow. Theres much more than that.

alright, so i was hostile too. i certainly don't think that Brokeback Mountain is about gay cowboys either. it was a sincerely beautiful movie. my only argument is that the buzz started too early and not enough people saw it to garner any other kind of buzz, than the gay cowboy buzz. i guess im saying nobody gave this movie a chance initially, so it couldn't have possibly been gaining any hype based on it's critical merit, and this knee jerk reaction from the media is ridiculous.

[primate1]

and no radiofriendly no one yelled homophobe if Brokeback didnt winYou and I clearly frequent different message boards. I saw CONSTANT accusations of homphobia and conservatism directed at the academy because Brokeback didn't win.

[YellowNovember]

HAHAHHAHA

reminds me of Bill Maher's comment "If Brokeback Mountian taught us anything, it's that it is okay to come in No. 2"


HAHAHA :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Kif]

maybe I was a little hostile, and I apologize for that. but I do not think GAY COWBOYS when I think Brokeback Mountain, and honestly, I dont agree with you that you think that thats what its about. Its about forbidden love, not gay cowboys. I think when people say "oooo its just a move about gay cowboys.." i personally think thats extremely shallow. Theres much more than that.
It is extremely shallow. Deal with it.

Seriously. Even if it is a moving love story about forbidden love, why would that be appealing to most the market of America anyway? Answer: It wouldn't. No man would want to see that unless he was bent, and they would instantly write it off as a chick flick.

The fact that this was about two gay men obviously hyped the film a lot. Too much if you ask me, since I don't care if they are gay, but whatever. I know several men who watched this film out of curiousity, and I can bet most of them will say it's because of the gay relationship.

[lanolynn]

when this movie was making the rounds at the film festivals and starting to genrate buzz, everyone was saying, "heath ledger and jake gyllenall are playing gay cowboys in this new movie called brokeback mountain" not "this brokeback mountain movie is a love story" so to say this movie wasn't hyped as a gay cowboy movie is insane