Someday ...If TBS ever gets into the Fall of Fame...

[mattplayscheap]

If Taking Back Sunday ever gets into the Rock & Roll Hall Fame... It will super fun to see what goes down... with the past member changes and possible future member changes... How crazy could it get? What if they reunited w/ John and Fred?

[Rodeo]

:chainsaw:

[PenThrive]

ZERO chance of TBS making it to the R&R hall of fame.:tumbleweed:

[Jake Denning]

Noah Fawkes would skeet skeet skeet like a water hose if that happened.

[mattplayscheap]

ZERO chance of TBS making it to the R&R hall of fame.:tumbleweed:

haha nah ..i think they have a good chance.. Actually so does Paramore as long as they can stay together.

[PenThrive]

haha nah ..i think they have a good chance.. Actually so does Paramore as long as they can stay together.


What would TBS's induction be based upon?

[Full Effect Ed]

What the hell is suddenly up with all the weird threads in the last 24 hours?

[SSLYBY]

OFFICIAL THREAD, These little discussion threads are getting annoying already.

[Loch_Doun]

Jimmy Eat World... Green Day... Blink 182... Weezer...
Those bands are all getting in at some point.
Not TBS.

[Griff]

lol

[SSLYBY]

Jimmy Eat World... Green Day... Blink 182... Weezer...
Those bands are all getting in at some point.
Not TBS.

I would say Taking Back Sunday have more of a chance to get into the hall of fame than Jimmy Eat World and Weezer.

[narcoleptic953]

I would say Taking Back Sunday have more of a chance to get into the hall of fame than Jimmy Eat World and Weezer.

No. I doubt Jimmy Eat World will get in (though they've at least had some commercial success). Weezer on the other is pretty much guaranteed. Taking Back Sunday doesn't have a chance in hell, I'm sorry.

[aoftbsten]

I would say Taking Back Sunday have more of a chance to get into the hall of fame than Jimmy Eat World and Weezer.

Definitely not.

[SSLYBY]

No. I doubt Jimmy Eat World will get in (though they've at least had some commercial success). Weezer on the other is pretty much guaranteed. Taking Back Sunday doesn't have a chance in hell, I'm sorry.

Definitely not.

Jimmy Eat World is known as the band with that one song "The Middle"; Louder Now at least had commercial success and New Again is getting ate up by the public.

[Twikki]

I would say Taking Back Sunday have more of a chance to get into the hall of fame than Jimmy Eat World and Weezer.

weezer continue to produce hit songs for the radio, they have two brilliant albums wiht critical acclaim (blue album + pinkerton)

jimmy eat world have more of a cult following but even still, they get radio play and still sell out venues (clarity tour sold out in less than a day if i recall)

[SSLYBY]

weezer continue to produce hit songs for the radio, they have two brilliant albums wiht critical acclaim (blue album + pinkerton)

jimmy eat world have more of a cult following but even still, they get radio play and still sell out venues (clarity tour sold out in less than a day if i recall)

I retract what I say about Weezer, I think they have a better shot than TBS. But still not a very good one. Jimmy Eat World's Clarity Tour was all small venues where their "cult" could buy out in two days.

[narcoleptic953]

Jimmy Eat World is known as the band with that one song "The Middle"; Louder Now at least had commercial success and New Again is getting ate up by the public.

Your point? I pretty much guarantee I could find more people who have heard Jimmy Eat World (and can tell me a song of theirs) than I could find people who could do the same thing for Taking Back Sunday. As for Weezer, find me one person who hasn't at least heard of them. Better yet, find me one person who has never heard of Weezer or JEW and HAS heard of TBS. Not going to happen much.

[SSLYBY]

Your point? I pretty much guarantee I could find more people who have heard Jimmy Eat World (and can tell me a song of theirs) than I could find people who could do the same thing for Taking Back Sunday. As for Weezer, find me one person who hasn't at least heard of them. Better yet, find me one person who has never heard of Weezer or JEW and HAS heard of TBS. Not going to happen much.

That's honestly a Joke. MakeDamnSure? I can't even answer that question. And yeah I'm sure a lot of people can name a Jimmy Eat World song; The Middle/Hear you Me

[aoftbsten]

Jimmy Eat World is known as the band with that one song "The Middle"; Louder Now at least had commercial success and New Again is getting ate up by the public.

Jimmy Eat World and Weezer have had far more commercial success than TBS, without a doubt. Are are household names, when I talk about them to people outside the whole "scene" people know who they are. TBS have had one single make it on the Billboard 100, that was makedamnsure and it was number 48. When you talk about TBS outside the "scene" people just ask who? They've enjoyed moderate success but compared to JEW and Weezer there's no question that they would be considered for the hall of fame before TBS.

[narcoleptic953]

That's honestly a Joke. MakeDamnSure? I can't even answer that question. And yeah I'm sure a lot of people can name a Jimmy Eat World song; The Middle/Hear you Me

Hell, I'm a user of this site and I can't name a Taking Back Sunday song (because I think they're completely terrible, but that's beside the point). I've never met a TBS fan outside of this site.

On what merit would they even get into the hall of fame? I'm not claiming JEW will. I can just guarantee TBS won't.

[PopPunkKid]

I would say Taking Back Sunday have more of a chance to get into the hall of fame than Jimmy Eat World and Weezer.


No way dude. Weezer have sold over 8 million records worldwide and they've influenced so many bands. TBS I don't even think have sold 3 million.

[SSLYBY]

Hell, I'm a user of this site and I can't name a Taking Back Sunday song (because I think they're completely terrible, but that's beside the point). I've never met a TBS fan outside of this site.

On what merit would they even get into the hall of fame? I'm not claiming JEW will. I can just guarantee TBS won't.

Not once did I say taking back sunday would get into the hall. They're mainstream success is going up while JEW is stagnant atm.

[SSLYBY]

No way dude. Weezer have sold over 8 million records worldwide and they've influenced so many bands. TBS I don't even think have sold 3 million.

I've already retracted that statement. I definitely see Weezer having a better shot now that I've thought about it.

[xJesusFreakx]

Avril Lavigne will be inducted into the Hall of Fame before Taking Back Sunday.

[PopPunkKid]

Avril Lavigne will be inducted into the Hall of Fame before Taking Back Sunday.


Troof.

[xJesusFreakx]

I mean, unless there is a category in the Hall of Fame for swinging mics. I suppose Taking Back Sunday could do well like that.

[Twikki]

I retract what I say about Weezer, I think they have a better shot than TBS. But still not a very good one. Jimmy Eat World's Clarity Tour was all small venues where their "cult" could buy out in two days.

with almost every album they've produced a hit

Clarity - Lucky Denver Mint
Jimmy Eat World - The Middle, Hear you Me (and arguably Get it Faster and Bleed American)
Futures - Pain
Chase This Light - Always Be and Big Casino (and the title track charted despite the fact it wasn't a single)

[SSLYBY]

with almost every album they've produced a hit

Clarity - Lucky Denver Mint
Jimmy Eat World - The Middle, Hear you Me (and arguably Get it Faster and Bleed American)
Futures - Pain
Chase This Light - Always Be and Big Casino (and the title track charted despite the fact it wasn't a single)

The only big hits where The Middle/Hear You Me. I doubt very many people even know Pain, or atleast know that JEW sang it.

[Troggy]

Some people in here need to take a small step outside the AP.net scene bubble before talking about things like the Rock and Roll hall of fame. The degree to which some of you are over or under-estimating the importance of some of these bands is atrocious.

[Twikki]

The only big hits where The Middle/Hear You Me. I doubt very many people even know Pain, or atleast know that JEW sang it.

from wikipedia:

"Pain" is a song by the American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) band Jimmy Eat World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Eat_World). It was released as the first single from their 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004) album Futures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futures_%28album%29) and became their second #1 hit on the Billboard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_%28magazine%29) Modern Rock Tracks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Rock_Tracks) chart. The song was featured on video games Tony Hawk's Underground 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hawk%27s_Underground_2), Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Club_3:_DUB_Edition) and Karaoke Revolution Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaoke_Revolution_Party). It was also featured on the Smallville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville_%28TV_series%29) episode "Transference." The 7" was pressed on clear vinyl. The Single has received Gold status by the RIAA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA).

[Regards]

Jimmy Eat World is known as the band with that one song "The Middle"; Louder Now at least had commercial success and New Again is getting ate up by the public.
Commercial success =/= being played on fuse every hour

[SSLYBY]

Some people in here need to take a small step outside the AP.net scene bubble before talking about things like the Rock and Roll hall of fame. The degree to which some of you are over or under-estimating the importance of some of these bands is atrocious.

That's exactly what I'm trying to say. People don't get it.

[SSLYBY]

Commercial success =/= being played on fuse every hour

I've never watched Fuse in my life. :shrug:

[mattplayscheap]

ok this is why I said 'if'... Youve all missed the point of what I was trying to say. Of course TBS wont ever make it in.. But I was hypathetically(spell check?!) speaking... I had a question pointed towards this thread...

[Troggy]

That's exactly what I'm trying to say. People don't get it.

Convincing people that logical things are true is an uphill battle in this arena. The only band mentioned so far in this thread that has a pretty good shot is Green Day.

[Keagan Ilvonen]

The only big hits where The Middle/Hear You Me. I doubt very many people even know Pain, or atleast know that JEW sang it.

lol Pain was a big hit back in the day.

[SSLYBY]

lol Pain was a big hit back in the day.

I'm just saying no one remembers it, not to the extent of Hear you me/The middle.

[Keagan Ilvonen]

I'm just saying no one remembers it, not to the extent of Hear you me/The middle.

It may just be me but I remember it just as well. It was played non stop on the radio/MTV/and every where else. I could have a warped memory seeing how I'm biased toward JEW but who knows.

[SSLYBY]

It may just be me but I remember it just as well. It was played non stop on the radio/MTV/and every where else. I could have a warped memory seeing how I'm biased toward JEW but who knows.

I agree it's hard to be unbiased about this kind of stuff. These threads are so stupid to fight about. Like Troggy said; Green Day is about the only band that has a chance.

[Keagan Ilvonen]

I agree it's hard to be unbiased about this kind of stuff. These threads are so stupid to fight about. Like Troggy said; Green Day is about the only band that has a chance.

Eh, I see Weezer getting in as well.

[atticus18244fss]

Lol I think some of you are thinking way to far ahead. Obviously Blink, Green Day and Weezer are all going to get in. TBS just isn't big enough yet.

[narcoleptic953]

Not once did I say taking back sunday would get into the hall. They're mainstream success is going up while JEW is stagnant atm.

Well that would make sense, since Jimmy Eat World hasn't released an album in two years.

[Twikki]

I'm just saying no one remembers it, not to the extent of Hear you me/The middle.

ahh but the middle was recently revived onto some form of guitar hero game and hear you me has been on a couple of soundtracks

always be was quite a big song though, alot of my friends who are only interested in chart songs were singing it

[narcoleptic953]

with almost every album they've produced a hit

Clarity - Lucky Denver Mint
Jimmy Eat World - The Middle, Hear you Me (and arguably Get it Faster and Bleed American)
Futures - Pain
Chase This Light - Always Be and Big Casino (and the title track charted despite the fact it wasn't a single)

Futures had a minor hit with Work as well, if I recall correctly.

Lol I think some of you are thinking way to far ahead. Obviously Blink, Green Day and Weezer are all going to get in. TBS just isn't big enough yet.

Blink ain't gettin' in either.

[SSLYBY]

Eh, I see Weezer getting in as well.


I could see Weezer, but their new stuff sucks so much ass. Lol

[Broclee]

I don't think Jimmy Eat World or Taking Back Sunday will ever see it. Green Day and Weezer, I would say definitely, at some point. blink-182, maybe at some point, especially with this reunion and such.

[RyanSadis]

Brand New!

[narcoleptic953]

Brand New!

No.

[narcoleptic953]

I could see Weezer, but their new stuff sucks so much ass. Lol

This hardly matters. They have two excellent and highly acclaimed albums. Going way downhill hasn't hurt other acts who have gotten in (*cough* U2 *cough*)

[Yellowcard2006]

This is a pretty funny thread. I'm a huge TBS fan but I don't think they are that highly regarded elsewhere. I think JEW deserves it though. And in the majority of people's eyes blink is just another annoying pop-punk band.

[Charles777]

Oh man, don't get this site started

[Kid B]

:chainsaw:
Haha

[boysandbulletsx]

What would TBS's induction be based upon?
How great "TAYF" was and how epic of a flop their subsequent albums were by comparison...actually, this would probably make for a better "Behind the Music" special. I'mjussayin'.

[Broclee]

This is a pretty funny thread. I'm a huge TBS fan but I don't think they are that highly regarded elsewhere. I think JEW deserves it though. And in the majority of people's eyes blink is just another annoying pop-punk band.

While this is true, they've also had massive massive massive success, and the reunion tour, and whatever may come subsequently, will also do well, I'm sure. Whether or not people like them, they're a name that people now. Do I think they'll ever seriously get inducted into the R&R HOF? I don't know. I'd say maybe, leaning closer to no, but I don't think they should be completely ruled out just yet.

[PenThrive]

How great "TAYF" was and how epic of a flop their subsequent albums were by comparison...actually, this would probably make for a better "Behind the Music" special. I'mjussayin'.

bands with cult followings rarely get inducted. Like many before have said, I have never met a TBS fan outside of this site.

[fadedmemories]

Jimmy Eat World... Green Day... Blink 182... Weezer...
Those bands are all getting in at some point.
Not TBS.
One great album doesn't get you in the hall of hame. Sorry TBS.

I know that I'll get plenty of shit for saying this, but cult followings doesn't land you in the hall as well. Sorry JEW.

[fadedmemories]

bands with cult followings rarely get inducted. Like many before have said, I have never met a TBS fan outside of this site.
LOLWUT?! TBS fans are abundant outside of the site. You must've meant TAYF fanboys.

[Yellowcard2006]

How about Linkin Park? I know there is a lot of hate for the band. But you can't deny their success and influence.


EDIT: It kinda sucks to not see post count in news comments, or when a user joined.

[Loch_Doun]

Jimmy Eat World are just as influential as Third Eye Blind (an obvious hall of fame band, though that might even be debatable)
and they have been at it for a long time and show no signs of going away soon.
I wouldn't rule them out.

Green Day is the only sure-thing at this point because of the Grammy success.

[whataclush]

taking back sunday? oh boy...

[MyWorldEntire]

Some people in here need to take a small step outside the AP.net scene bubble before talking about things like the Rock and Roll hall of fame. The degree to which some of you are over or under-estimating the importance of some of these bands is atrocious.

This.

[deFobbed14yrs]

Noah Fawkes would skeet skeet skeet like a water hose if that happened.


:rotfl:

[Charles777]

Some people in here need to take a small step outside the AP.net scene bubble before talking about things like the Rock and Roll hall of fame. The degree to which some of you are over or under-estimating the importance of some of these bands is atrocious.
QFT

[Broclee]

How about Linkin Park? I know there is a lot of hate for the band. But you can't deny their success and influence.


EDIT: It kinda sucks to not see post count in news comments, or when a user joined.


Honestly, I could see Linkin Park getting in before most of the bands being talked about in this thread.

[MSIndulgence]

Jimmy Eat World > Taking Back Sunday.

/thread

[narcoleptic953]

Jimmy Eat World > Taking Back Sunday.

/thread

This is pretty much fact.

[Raiden]

Just got the chance to see them at a radio station concert in KC, and when Adam starting climbing up the stage to the lights. I found myself secretly wishing he would fall from the rafters.

[MyWorldEntire]

Lol I think some of you are thinking way to far ahead. Obviously Blink, Green Day and Weezer are all going to get in. TBS just isn't big enough yet.

Blink 182 is far from a lock for getting in.

[PenThrive]

LOLWUT?! TBS fans are abundant outside of the site. You must've meant TAYF fanboys.


Seriously. I have not. Maybe there many among kids your age.

[wookiex]

Green Day will absolutely get in. Linkin Park sadly has a good shot.
It's sad commercial success means that you go into the Hall of Fame, although there are others.

[atticus18244fss]

Blink 182 is far from a lock for getting in.
I guess I can dream. They really deserve it though...

[MyWorldEntire]

Green Day will absolutely get in. Linkin Park sadly has a good shot.
It's sad commercial success means that you go into the Hall of Fame, although there are others.

Green Day deserve it way more than Blink does.

[aoftbsten]

I could see Green Day for sure, Linkin Park is a possiblity. Blink, perhaps. The only cult following type band I can ever see making it in is Radiohead.

[Regards]

I've never watched Fuse in my life. :shrug:
Fair enough, but as someone who's worked in a top 40's radio station, I can assure you that's I've heard more JEW songs than I have TBS songs.

[MyWorldEntire]

I could see Green Day for sure, Linkin Park is a possiblity. Blink, perhaps. The only cult following type band I can ever see making it in is Radiohead.

If any band is a lock, it's Radiohead at this point.

[Raiden]

It'd be a great day to see Jimmy Eat World get in. Bunch of amazing musicians. Polaris is definitely up there for favorite songs.

[SLoT]

Jimmy Eat World are just as influential as Third Eye Blind (an obvious hall of fame band, though that might even be debatable)
and they have been at it for a long time and show no signs of going away soon.
I wouldn't rule them out.

Green Day is the only sure-thing at this point because of the Grammy success.
Agreed.

JEW/TEB/TBS = all not getting in. Be realistic.

Weezer has a good shot as well as Linkin Park (Weezer more so than LP for that matter)

[Dubui_209]

Agreed.

JEW/TEB/TBS = all not getting in. Be realistic.

Weezer has a good shot as well as Linkin Park (Weezer more so than LP for that matter)
Linkin Park needs more albums in my opinion, at least before they're guranteed a spot.

[Charles777]

Lots of JEW hype in this here thread.

[SLoT]

Linkin Park needs more albums in my opinion, at least before they're guranteed a spot.
Definitely agreed, but they've been extremely successful and influential thus far. If they can last another 5-10 years they've got a good shot. I mean we're talking about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame which is meant to represent the best bands in the world, and we have kids talking about Jimmy Eat World in here.

[simensays]

haha nah ..i think they have a good chance.. Actually so does Paramore as long as they can stay together.

Taking Back Sunday is a Gold selling band. So they have a very little chance. Paramore has just as much of a chance as Flyleaf, both went Platinum. However I doubt they'll make it. Linkin Park is another story.

[Regards]

Some people in here need to take a small step outside the AP.net scene bubble before talking about things like the Rock and Roll hall of fame. The degree to which some of you are over or under-estimating the importance of some of these bands is atrocious.
This is why I love the llama

[Yellowcard2006]

Hybrid Theory went Diamond. That's pretty impressive.

[Charles777]

Hybrid Theory went Diamond. That's pretty impressive.
I used to love this album. Now I just kind of think it's meh.

And I don't know if anybody else has posted it, but here's a complete list of the inductees.
http://www.rockhall.com/inductees/inductee-list

[Losing Streak]

The title of this thread makes me laugh (not because it's misspelled).

[AsItFallsApart]

Foo Fighters and Green Day will happen far before any other band mentioned in here

sadly Nickleback probably has a better chance than JEW and by far over TBS

[anthonydarko]

Will never happen.

[SLoT]

Foo Fighters and Green Day will happen far before any other band mentioned in here

sadly Nickleback probably has a better chance than JEW and by far over TBS
True. As much as most people don't want to admit that, you're correct.

[Charles777]

You look so much cuter, with somethin in yo mouthhhhhhhh

[AnchorBraille]

How about Linkin Park? I know there is a lot of hate for the band. But you can't deny their success and influence.


EDIT: It kinda sucks to not see post count in news comments, or when a user joined.
i would kill myself if Linkin Park would get in.

[AnchorBraille]

Foo Fighters and Green Day will happen far before any other band mentioned in here

sadly Nickleback probably has a better chance than JEW and by far over TBS
I would also kill myself if Nickleback got in.

[CollectiveConfusion]

if taking back sunday gets in and jimmy eat world doesn't, i'm burning the place down

EDIT: i doubt either will, though

[Broclee]

Foo Fighters and Green Day will happen far before any other band mentioned in here

sadly Nickleback probably has a better chance than JEW and by far over TBS

True. As much as most people don't want to admit that, you're correct.

Me and little brother actually discussed this over lunch, and reached these same conclusions. I had to convince him that blink-182 were not a "locked in" band, though.

[Broclee]

i would kill myself if Linkin Park would get in.

I would also kill myself if Nickleback got in.

They're both probably going to get in at some point.

[boysandbulletsx]

bands with cult followings rarely get inducted. Like many before have said, I have never met a TBS fan outside of this site.
I was being facetious. How you missed that is beyond me :-d
Also, Taking Back Sunday have a very large fan base. It's TAYF that has the cult following.

[Until The Bombs]

Fortunately, TBS will never get into the hall of fame.

[jordalsh]

No, no, that will just not happen. I do like them, but that just... no

[wookiex]

Foo Fighters and Green Day will happen far before any other band mentioned in here

sadly Nickleback probably has a better chance than JEW and by far over TBS

sadly, agreed.

[SLoT]

Me and little brother actually discussed this over lunch, and reached these same conclusions. I had to convince him that blink-182 were not a "locked in" band, though.

Nah you're right. Blink's not locked in. I doubt they'll be around still even when they become eligible which is 25 years after your debut cd comes out. With this in mind, as well as the fact that they pretty much just owned a couple years on the music time line, you'll be hard pressed for them to actually even get nominated, let alone get in. Unless by the time they're eligible we've got a bunch of kids running the voting and decision making for the HoF. This is all just being realistic, though they've inspired a lot of bands, those bands who they've inspired have done nothing much for music themselves you know?

[narcoleptic953]

I'm not sure why this dissolved into a conversation of what bands from now have a shot at the hall of fame (since there was a thread on this very subject like a week or so ago), but come on, Blink doesn't have a chance in hell. Nor does TBS, JEW, or Nickelback (come on, sales aren't the only thing that matters. I'm pretty sure everyone in the hall of fame would be trying to get out if this happened). Seriously though, if you want to discuss this, search the other thread out. Same arguments going on in here I think.

[CollectiveConfusion]

i'm pretty sure blink will get in, they had HUGE commercial success, and every band today puts them down as one of their influences... the people voting when they are eligible will be people (around) my age.. and i think they will get blink in there

[seraph1214]

I like TBS, but they've done nothing Hall of Fame worthy.

[jeremyc]

this thread is titsauce

[Twikki]

This hardly matters. They have two excellent and highly acclaimed albums. Going way downhill hasn't hurt other acts who have gotten in (*cough* U2 *cough*)

pork and beans was a huge sucess

[Dubui_209]

i'm pretty sure blink will get in, they had HUGE commercial success, and every band today puts them down as one of their influences... the people voting when they are eligible will be people (around) my age.. and i think they will get blink in there

You have to realize, as big as blink is, they weren't that big until coming back from Hiatus.

[hmmmmmm]

fall of fame.

[fly_guy]

Title mistake aside, I dont see them ever getting into it because they have had 2 really disappointing albums, 1 iffy one, and one great one. Not enough.

[micahistheballs]

This whole thread is absurd.

[more heart]

Never gonna happen.

[BenPunknews]

Something we'll never have to worry about.

[kazuma_ootaro28]

A protest would occur, in which John, Shaun, and Michelle would join.

[CS Lewis]

I would say Taking Back Sunday have more of a chance to get into the hall of fame than Jimmy Eat World and Weezer.

By far the most stupid post I've ever seen on this website.

Jimmy Eat World will probably not get inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of fame. Just my guess.

Weezer is pretty much so a given.

Taking Back Sunday = not a chance in hell.

[Ari Christos]

I was expecting to open this and see some sort of joke. Taking Back Sunday have about a good a chance of getting into the HOF as they do of making another good record. Those odds aren't in their favor.

[narcoleptic953]

pork and beans was a huge sucess

Doesn't make it a good song or album. But that's beside the point. My argument was that Weezer will get in regardless of the fact that The Red Album was one of the shittiest albums of the decade.

[wewascontenders]

hmmm lol.

[Twikki]

Doesn't make it a good song or album. But that's beside the point. My argument was that Weezer will get in regardless of the fact that The Red Album was one of the shittiest albums of the decade.

someone forgot about the atrocity that was make believe

i'm just saying, as an opinion, i think pork and beans is a good song, it's very tongue in cheek and ironic

as for the album, it's ok in places but most of it is crap

[CollectiveConfusion]

You have to realize, as big as blink is, they weren't that big until coming back from Hiatus.

i disagree, they were the biggest thing around from 1999 until around 2003/04... enema of the state sold 15 million copies, take off your pants and jacket sold around 4-5 million. granted, the self titled didn't do so well, but "feeling this" was a hit and "i miss you" was a HUGE hit. they were on top of the world for about 5 years

[PenThrive]

I was being facetious. How you missed that is beyond me :-d
Also, Taking Back Sunday have a very large fan base. It's TAYF that has the cult following.

Never said TBS was without a large fan base, and to be honest, you need more than a "cult following" behind one album and a current fan base to be inducted.

Fortunately, TBS will never get into the hall of fame.


Exactly +1

[Dubui_209]

i disagree, they were the biggest thing around from 1999 until around 2003/04... enema of the state sold 15 million copies, take off your pants and jacket sold around 4-5 million. granted, the self titled didn't do so well, but "feeling this" was a hit and "i miss you" was a HUGE hit. they were on top of the world for about 5 years
That's true...
Btw is Guns N' Roses in the Rock & Roll hall Of Fame?

[CollectiveConfusion]

That's true...
Btw is Guns N' Roses in the Rock & Roll hall Of Fame?

not yet, their first album came out in 87.. hasn't been 25 years.

[AnchorBraille]

Does anyone think Arcade Fire has a chance to get in?

[briewer]

I would say Taking Back Sunday have more of a chance to get into the hall of fame than Jimmy Eat World and Weezer.
:lol: I see you've gotten a new account, Noah.

[CollectiveConfusion]

Does anyone think Arcade Fire has a chance to get in?

i would love to see them get in, but i doubt it will happen, unless they drastically change the criteria for inducting bands

[SLoT]

i'm pretty sure blink will get in, they had HUGE commercial success, and every band today puts them down as one of their influences... the people voting when they are eligible will be people (around) my age.. and i think they will get blink in there

Wrong. The criteria for bands to get into the HoF is a lot more than commercial success, and blink honestly was really popular for about 3-4 years. They'll probably break up before they're eligible to get in anyway. I wish they would, but they will not. If I'm wrong I will fight you, and let you win... in time.

[CollectiveConfusion]

Wrong. The criteria for bands to get into the HoF is a lot more than commercial success, and blink honestly was really popular for about 3-4 years. They'll probably break up before they're eligible to get in anyway. I wish they would, but they will not. If I'm wrong I will fight you, and let you win... in time.

the criteria they go for is "influence and significance of the artists’ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll." if you don't think blink had influence in the development of rock and roll...

[briewer]

if you don't think blink had influence in the development of rock and roll...
...then you totally have the right opinion! Blink is blown WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY out of proportion on this site. And if were talking about influence as criteria for the Hall, let's get Iggy Pop in before we worry about these shitty pop-punk acts.

[Gaugzilla]

...then you totally have the right opinion! Blink is blown WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY out of proportion on this site. And if were talking about influence as criteria for the Hall, let's get Iggy Pop in before we worry about these shitty pop-punk acts.
Haha. For Blink to even be considered, it will still be another 10 years. By then, I think they'll just be getting around to inducting the major influences of the 80s and 90s. Iggy Pop will most likely get in there at that time.

We will all most likely have gone through our first divorce and custody battle by then...

[briewer]

Haha. For Blink to even be considered, it will still be another 10 years. By then, I think they'll just be getting around to inducting the major influences of the 80s and 90s. Iggy Pop will most likely get in there at that time.

We will all most likely have gone through our first divorce and custody battle by then...
Well qualification is 25 years after your debut, and The Stooges came out 40 years ago in August, so they've been given ample time to get his ass in.

And if you respond to this, happy 1000th post.

[SSLYBY]

:lol: I see you've gotten a new account, Noah.

OMG Good one. Idiot. I don't even like Taking Back Sunday, but the thought of Jimmy Eat World in the Rock N Roll hall of fame is even more of a joke than TBS.

[briewer]

OMG Good one. Idiot. I don't even like Taking Back Sunday, but the thought of Jimmy Eat World in the Rock N Roll hall of fame is even more of a joke than TBS.
That was more directed at the TBS > Weezer comment. So, still: :lol:

[lonelysuperstar]

...then you totally have the right opinion! Blink is blown WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY out of proportion on this site. And if were talking about influence as criteria for the Hall, let's get Iggy Pop in before we worry about these shitty pop-punk acts.
this.

this whole thread makes me take off in my roflcopter.

[SSLYBY]

That was more directed at the TBS > Weezer comment. So, still: :lol:

And clearly right after that I corrected my mistake and said Weezer has a chance to make it. So once again, Idiot.

[briewer]

And clearly right after that I corrected my mistake and said Weezer has a chance to make it. So once again, Idiot.
The fact that you made a mistake like that at all still makes me-> :lol:

[SSLYBY]

The fact that you made a mistake like that at all still makes me-> :lol:

They both have about the same chance of getting in, which is very little. So I don't see how it was that funny. :shrug:

[CollectiveConfusion]

...then you totally have the right opinion! Blink is blown WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY out of proportion on this site. And if were talking about influence as criteria for the Hall, let's get Iggy Pop in before we worry about these shitty pop-punk acts.

hey, all i'm saying is if you poll all of the bands out there right now, at least 70% will say that blink was one of their biggest influences. whether you want to admit it or not, they were one of the two or three bands that built the groundwork for what's going on in music today. that, added to their commercial success, should get them in the hall of fame.

no bash on iggy pop coming from here, haven't heard enough of him to make a judgement

[briewer]

They both have about the same chance of getting in, which is very little. So I don't see how it was that funny. :shrug:
Do you remember albums by the names of Weezer (The Blue Album) and Pinkerton? Regardless of the shitshow they've been putting on since then, those are two of the best albums of the 90's, and certainly much better than anything TBS has or will put out. If Nirvana is going to get in on the strength of two good albums, as I think they will, Weezer certainly deserves the same respect.

But hey, what do I know, I'm an idiot.

[briewer]

hey, all i'm saying is if you poll all of the bands out there right now, at least 70% will say that blink was one of their biggest influences.
No.

whether you want to admit it or not, they were one of the two or three bands that built the groundwork for what's going on in music today.
No.

that, added to their commercial success, should get them in the hall of fame.
No.

no bash on iggy pop coming from here, haven't heard enough of him to make a judgement
The man single-handedly created punk and made pop-punk and other spin-off genres possible. Respect your elders and download Raw Power.

[CollectiveConfusion]

No.


No.


No.


The man single-handedly created punk and made pop-punk and other spin-off genres possible. Respect your elders and download Raw Power.

well i guess there's no convincing you :shrug: we'll see in time

[SSLYBY]

Do you remember albums by the names of Weezer (The Blue Album) and Pinkerton? Regardless of the shitshow they've been putting on since then, those are two of the best albums of the 90's, and certainly much better than anything TBS has or will put out. If Nirvana is going to get in on the strength of two good albums, as I think they will, Weezer certainly deserves the same respect.

But hey, what do I know, I'm an idiot.

Nirvana was the biggest name of a whole genre. Not to mention the death of Kurt Cobain didn't hurt them any. I actually love Weezer, but I still don't think they will be in the Hall Of Fame.

[CollectiveConfusion]

Do you remember albums by the names of Weezer (The Blue Album) and Pinkerton? Regardless of the shitshow they've been putting on since then, those are two of the best albums of the 90's, and certainly much better than anything TBS has or will put out. If Nirvana is going to get in on the strength of two good albums, as I think they will, Weezer certainly deserves the same respect.

But hey, what do I know, I'm an idiot.

sorry to continue this dumb argument, but i don't see nirvana as any more groundbreaking than blink 182. nirvana brought grunge to the masses, blink brought pop punk, both by way of powerchords. while cobain wrote better lyrics than anything blink came up with, it's his death that makes them so revered.

[briewer]

well i guess there's no convincing you :shrug: we'll see in time
Your "convincing" was making up a completely ridiculous untrue statistic about how many bands cite Blink as an influence and narrowing down "what's going on in music today" to "bands featured on this site." I'm not made of stone; I can be convinced to change my mind. You just need to get your mind out of the pop-punk gutter and expand your horizons a bit.

[briewer]

sorry to continue this dumb argument, but i don't see nirvana as any more groundbreaking than blink 182. nirvana brought grunge to the masses, blink brought pop punk, both by way of powerchords. while cobain wrote better lyrics than anything blink came up with, it's his death that makes them so revered.
I hate Nirvana, I'm just saying if they make it in, as they probably will, so should Weezer. They sound like a really boring, possibly codeine'd Pixies.

[DejaNew]

LOL at people thinking TBS and Paramore will get into the R&R HOF.

[briewer]

LOL at people thinking TBS and Paramore will get into the R&R HOF.
Have you been reading this shit ^? LOLs aplenty.

[DejaNew]

Have you been reading this shit ^? LOLs aplenty.
No, its tl;dr, but I can imagine.

[thespearkid]

what the fuck is with all these threads about the rock and roll hall of fame lately? the hall is garbage.

[briewer]

No, its tl;dr, but I can imagine.
Just read this and you'll know how much Uggh I've been going through:

hey, all i'm saying is if you poll all of the bands out there right now, at least 70% will say that blink was one of their biggest influences. whether you want to admit it or not, they were one of the two or three bands that built the groundwork for what's going on in music today. that, added to their commercial success, should get them in the hall of fame.

[CollectiveConfusion]

Your "convincing" was making up a completely ridiculous untrue statistic about how many bands cite Blink as an influence and narrowing down "what's going on in music today" to "bands featured on this site." I'm not made of stone; I can be convinced to change my mind. You just need to get your mind out of the pop-punk gutter and expand your horizons a bit.

that's true, i made up a statistic. definitely not a good way to make a point.

I hate Nirvana, I'm just saying if they make it in, as they probably will, so should Weezer. The only 'influence' Nirvana has had is this nu-metal shit that is "all the rage" amongst assholes.

i hate them as well, but if you're gonna induct nirvana for two solid albums (and spawning nu-metal), the same logic should apply to blink (enema of the state and take off your pants and jacket) two solid albums that also spawned thousands of copycats.

[DejaNew]

Just read this and you'll know how much Uggh I've been going through:
LOL. That's ridiculous. What kind of music does that idiot listen to? I like blink and all, but come on, no band, not even The Beatles have influenced over 1 percent of the music out there today.

[CollectiveConfusion]

LOL. That's ridiculous. What kind of music does that idiot listen to? I like blink and all, but come on, no band, not even The Beatles have influenced over 1 percent of the music out there today.

i know i know that was a bad quote... i was speaking only for the bands found on this site.

[PopPunkKid]

sorry to continue this dumb argument, but i don't see nirvana as any more groundbreaking than blink 182. nirvana brought grunge to the masses, blink brought pop punk, both by way of powerchords. while cobain wrote better lyrics than anything blink came up with, it's his death that makes them so revered.


I believe you meant to say Green Day.

[DejaNew]

i know i know that was a bad quote... i was speaking only for the bands found on this site.
Still, not even close. Please, just stop.

[briewer]

LOL. That's ridiculous. What kind of music does that idiot listen to? I like blink and all, but come on, no band, not even The Beatles have influenced over 1 percent of the music out there today.
Yeah, and some other guy was trying to convince me TBS is more fit for the HOF than Weezer, and would end every post with "idiot", which was directed at me. And I was like all three of these at the same time: :hitself: :shudder: :jawdrop:

[DejaNew]

Yeah, and some other guy was trying to convince me TBS is more fit for the HOF than Weezer, and would end every post with "idiot", which was directed at me. And I was like all three of these at the same time: :hitself: :shudder: :jawdrop:
Haha, I'm not one to bash, but you actually have to in these situations.

[Broclee]

Can we all just agree that Green Day has a good chance of getting in?

[briewer]

Haha, I'm not one to bash, but you actually have to in these situations.
Especially when the other guy is treating you like you're the one with the awful opinion.

[CollectiveConfusion]

Can we all just agree that Green Day has a good chance of getting in?

yes.

[Broclee]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaay.

[CollectiveConfusion]

Still, not even close. Please, just stop.

look at your favorite bands, and count the ones that were directly influenced by blink.

[holyballs]

this thread makes my brain hurt.

[DejaNew]

look at your favorite bands, and count the ones that were directly influenced by blink.
What does that have to do with anything? I like pop-punk, so it's natural that a few of the bands I listen to will have blink influences(ps, the only ones that might are Motion City Soundtrack, Valencia, The Dangerous Summer, the rest were started around the time blink did, or before). Just because I enjoy pop-punk music with some blink influence doesn't mean the entire site does. There are countless bands on this site that have zero influence from blink-182. MUCH less that 70 percent of them.

[SSLYBY]

Yeah, and some other guy was trying to convince me TBS is more fit for the HOF than Weezer, and would end every post with "idiot", which was directed at me. And I was like all three of these at the same time: :hitself: :shudder: :jawdrop:

There you go again. I never ever said that towards you. I said it in one of the first posts, and then retracted my statement almost immediately, I meant both have about the same chance of getting in, which isn't good.

[DejaNew]

My head hurts.

[SSLYBY]

Yeah, and some other guy was trying to convince me TBS is more fit for the HOF than Weezer, and would end every post with "idiot", which was directed at me. And I was like all three of these at the same time: :hitself: :shudder: :jawdrop:

My head hurts.

All I'm saying is Taking Back Sunday is making music that is getting more popular with the Mainstream crowd, while weezer are tarnishing their chances by putting out terrible music.

[CollectiveConfusion]

What does that have to do with anything? I like pop-punk, so it's natural that a few of the bands I listen to will have blink influences(ps, the only ones that might are Motion City Soundtrack, Valencia, The Dangerous Summer, the rest were started around the time blink did, or before). Just because I enjoy pop-punk music with some blink influence doesn't mean the entire site does. There are countless bands on this site that have zero influence from blink-182. MUCH less that 70 percent of them.

i already said 70 was wayyy too high of a number, but to say blink wasn't an influence in rock and roll (which was the beginning of this argument), is just wrong. i'm not saying blink is a lock for the hall of fame, i'm just saying that had they never existed, tons of kids never would have picked up guitars.

[Until The Bombs]

All I'm saying is Taking Back Sunday is making music that is getting more popular with the Mainstream crowd, while weezer are tarnishing their chances by putting out terrible music.

Commercially, TBS peaked with WYWTB as of this point.

[Gaugzilla]

The thing is - and I'm originally from Ohio - No one really gives a shit who's in the Rock Hall.

Metallica getting inducted in there doesn't make me hate them less. I still don't listen to the Rolling Stones. I'm glad The Police are in, but their induction really didn't affect my love of them.

Taking Back Sunday getting inducted, which will never happen, won't make me think they're any better than what I think of them now. It shouldn't affect you either.

[Broclee]

Being from Ohio means never having to give a shit about who's in the Rock Hall.

[narcoleptic953]

someone forgot about the atrocity that was make believe

i'm just saying, as an opinion, i think pork and beans is a good song, it's very tongue in cheek and ironic

as for the album, it's ok in places but most of it is crap

No, I didn't forget about it, I just think Red is as a whole, shittier (yes. I said it). Make Believe was pretty much mediocre from start to finish, but I did get a few plays out of it before I realized just how shitty it was. Red has MAYBE 4 decent songs (and yes, Pork & Beans is one of them), and Heart Songs alone is shittier than the entirety of Make Believe. Heart Songs is one of the most idiotically horrible songs I've ever heard in my life.

But yeah, I included Make Believe in the shitty music Weezer has been making.

All I'm saying is Taking Back Sunday is making music that is getting more popular with the Mainstream crowd, while weezer are tarnishing their chances by putting out terrible music.

Taking Back Sunday's most recent record is far far shittier than any Weezer record. It makes Red and Make Believe sound like Sgt. Peppers and Highway 61. At least Weezer has chances to tarnish, as opposed to TBS, who don't have chances.

[SSLYBY]

Taking Back Sunday's most recent record is far far shittier than any Weezer record. It makes Red and Make Believe sound like Sgt. Peppers and Highway 61. At least Weezer has chances to tarnish, as opposed to TBS, who don't have chances.

Stop living in this little community. New Again is getting great reviews almost everywhere and the mainstream is eating it up. Half the people who bash it on this site haven't even given it a good listen. That saying, I'm not that big of a fan of the album, but it is far from being horrible.

[Broclee]

Taking Back Sunday's most recent record is far far shittier than any Weezer record. It makes Red and Make Believe sound like Sgt. Peppers and Highway 61. At least Weezer has chances to tarnish, as opposed to TBS, who don't have chances.

Holy lol'd, totally sig'd.

[narcoleptic953]

Stop living in this little community. New Again is getting great reviews almost everywhere and the mainstream is eating it up. Half the people who bash it on this site haven't even given it a good listen. That saying, I'm not that big of a fan of the album, but it is far from being horrible.

It's the musical equivalent of bashing my head into a trash bin. And the only way it's far from being terrible is because it's gone so far past that classification that the word is no longer even applicable. I haven't heard a more unlistenable album all year.

[SSLYBY]

It's the musical equivalent of bashing my head into a trash bin. And the only way it's far from being terrible is because it's gone so far past that classification so that the word is no longer even applicable. I haven't heard a more unlistenable album all year.

That's a bit of an overstatement. Give me some reasons why you feel this way? What songs made it cringe so bad and what was so terrible about them. I'm really interested in what you have to say since you have such a precise view on the album.

[narcoleptic953]

That's a bit of an overstatement.

It has no redeeming qualities!

[SSLYBY]

It has no redeeming qualities!

Read my edit to this post.

[Dubui_209]

Of all the band out there, Green Day and Linkin Park have a better chance than anyone. Period.

Green Day was before Blink so how influential is Blink really?

[briewer]

Of all the band out there, Green Day and Linkin Park have a better chance than anyone. Period.
Sonic Youth? Radiohead? Pixies? The Smiths? Tom Waits? The Flaming Lips? Fugazi? Iggy Pop? Pavement? I could go on all day with bands that are more deserving and have a better shot than those two.

[SSLYBY]

Sonic Youth? Radiohead? Pixies? The Smiths? Tom Waits? The Flaming Lips? Fugazi? Iggy Pop? Pavement? I could go on all day with bands that are more deserving and have a better shot than those two.

Fugazi and Pavement have no chance. The Smiths.. not in the U.S. at least.

More deserving doesn't mean they're going to get in. You have to understand the Rock N' Roll hall of fame sucks.

[AP_Punk]

hahaha the fall of fame

[Dubui_209]

Sonic Youth? Radiohead? Pixies? The Smiths? Tom Waits? The Flaming Lips? Fugazi? Iggy Pop? Pavement? I could go on all day with bands that are more deserving and have a better shot than those two.
I have NEVER met ANYONE in person that listens to Radiohead. Maybe on the Pixies. No to the rest

[SSLYBY]

I have NEVER met ANYONE in person that listens to Radiohead. Maybe on the Pixies. No to the rest

Oh god, you just lost all credibility.

[Broclee]

I have NEVER met ANYONE in person that listens to Radiohead. Maybe on the Pixies. No to the rest
I...You...There's no way that's serious.

[tommy's ghost]

It's hilarious how people are stating that Blink-182 are going to get into The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with complete and utter certainty.

[Dubui_209]

It's hilarious how people are stating that Blink-182 are going to get into The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with complete and utter certainty.
There's a lot of bands people think will get in, but it's all about mainstream. The truth is Linkin Park, Green Day, and Nickelback, are most likely to get in. If Blink writes a couple more solid cd's with mainstream success then they'll get in. TBS, JEW, and Weezer, stand no chance imo.

[briewer]

I have NEVER met ANYONE in person that listens to Radiohead. Maybe on the Pixies. No to the rest
The first five weren't suggestions; if the HOF wants to hold the tiniest shred of credibility, all five are in. The Flaming Lips is a bit unknown considering their most famous works have been released relatively recently, and they are still active in releasing albums, but I think that they will make it if fucking Linkin Park does. Fugazi is unknown, just threw them out there. They certainly deserve it. Iggy Pop should be in. It's not a question. The man fucking invented punk music. And I put Pavement because two of their albums ranked fairly high on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time list. Not saying this as certification of my opinion, but because if a stupid, equally-as-big-of-a-joke publication like Rolling Stone thinks of Pavement that highly, it's fairly possible the HOF will too.

Btw, none of this was really directed at you, seeing as you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I don't know, do some research or something, maybe you'll realize just how ridiculous a statement "No to the rest" is.

[briewer]

The truth is Linkin Park, Green Day, and Nickelback, are most likely to get in. If Blink writes a couple more solid cd's with mainstream success then they'll get in.
It's not all a popularity contest. Linkin Park and Nickelback probably won't get in because they just suck that hard.

[Dubui_209]

The first five weren't suggestions; if the HOF wants to hold the tiniest shred of credibility, all five are in. The Flaming Lips is a bit unknown considering their most famous works have been released relatively recently, and they are still active in releasing albums, but I think that they will make it if fucking Linkin Park does. Fugazi is unknown, just threw them out there. They certainly deserve it. Iggy Pop should be in. It's not a question. The man fucking invented punk music. And I put Pavement because two of their albums ranked fairly high on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time list. Not saying this as certification of my opinion, but because if a stupid, equally-as-big-of-a-joke publication like Rolling Stone thinks of Pavement that highly, it's fairly possible the HOF will too.

Btw, none of this was really directed at you, seeing as you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I don't know, do some research or something, maybe you'll realize just how ridiculous a statement "No to the rest" is.
Why would I "research" a topic when we won't have the solutiion for at least 10 years? We obviously have different opinions, but the fact is, is that a this is a popularity contest. I'll do "something," and just block you. Have a nice life while you pursue and embrace chaos among a community you will never confront in reality.

[fadedmemories]

Hybrid Theory went Diamond. That's pretty impressive.
Commercial success does not equal musical credibility.

[SLoT]

the criteria they go for is "influence and significance of the artists’ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll." if you don't think blink had influence in the development of rock and roll...
Blink influenced a wave of pop punkers who have done nothing for rock themselves for the most part. They were really popular for about 3 or 4 years man. They may get in, but it won't be for a very long time.

[loveisdead]

Barely skimmed this thread, but Linkin Park and Blink are getting into the hall of fame. I dunno how anyone could think otherwise.

[SSLYBY]

Commercial success does not equal musical credibility.

It does when you talk about the Hall of fame.

[Broclee]

Barely skimmed this thread, but Linkin Park and Blink are getting into the hall of fame. I dunno how anyone could think otherwise.
Common sense?

[amplifire]

I doubt they would, but that would be awesome. I love TBS, don't care what anyone says.

[loveisdead]

Common sense?
Common sense would dictate that between the amount of records they sold plus their influence on both music and fashion styles that they would get in. You're talking about two of the biggest rock bands of the last 10 years.

[Broclee]

Common sense would dictate that between the amount of records they sold plus their influence on both music and fashion styles that they would get in. You're talking about two of the biggest rock bands of the last 10 years.
I don't know numbers, but I would imagine that Coldplay, Nickelback, and Linkin Park have sold more than blink.

(Just for the record, I Think Linkin Park is getting in, but I just don't think blink will be, at least not for a loooooong time.)

[SSLYBY]

I don't know numbers, but I would imagine that Coldplay, Nickelback, and Linkin Park have sold more than blink.

(Just for the record, I Think Linkin Park is getting in, but I just don't think blink will be, at least not for a loooooong time.)

I would say Coldplay is a shoe in.

[loveisdead]

I don't know numbers, but I would imagine that Coldplay, Nickelback, and Linkin Park have sold more than blink.

(Just for the record, I Think Linkin Park is getting in, but I just don't think blink will be, at least not for a loooooong time.)
I dunno the numbers but I tend to agree with that. I don't see why that would stop Blink from getting in though. You're also forgetting about RHCP. They've probably sold a shitload more. Same with Greenday.

[Broclee]

I would say Coldplay is a shoe in.

Yeah, probably.

I dunno the numbers but I tend to agree with that. I don't see why that would stop Blink from getting in though. You're also forgetting about RHCP. They've probably sold a shitload more. Same with Greenday.

The thing with blink is, that as much as I'd like to see them get in, I have a feeling they'll have huge detractors once they're finally eligible, as just in here people have given pretty good arguments against blink getting in. I'd love to see it happen, but I don't think it will.

As for RHCP, I just assume that they'll get in almost as soon as their eligible, and I have no doubt that Green Day will get in.

[Yellowcard2006]

Commercial success does not equal musical credibility.

Linkin Park is not that bad.

[KingJohn_654]

Linkin Park is not that bad.

this. there are lots of bands that have made it big that are much worse than linkin park.

[briewer]

Why would I "research" a topic when we won't have the solutiion for at least 10 years?
What does that even mean? The artists I listed were some of the most influential and critically acclaimed from their era. That's what I meant when I said 'research', because you clearly had no idea that that was the case. I don't know what 'solution' we're going to have in 10 years, or really, how anything you've written even makes sense.

We obviously have different opinions,
No we don't, you don't have a grasp of the reality of the situation. Those artists influenced a lot of other artists and created some of the most dynamic and creative music of their time. That's a fact, not an opinion.

but the fact is, is that a this is a popularity contest.
It used to be that the best selling artists would get in without a fuss, but I think that's liable to change. The best selling artists in the past--your Beatles, your Pink Floyds, your Led Zeppelins, etc.--were also some of the most talented and well received of their time. Bands like the Beatles should have gotten in had they sold a thousand records or a billion. The talented artists happened to also be the most widely bought by the general population. At some point, though, talent and positive critical reception became divorced with mainstream success. All of Linkin Park's and Nickelback's albums have, of course, sucked, and have been widely panned by critics, yet they've sold ungodly amounts of that tripe to the general population. I'm not saying that because they suck they won't get in, but I am saying that because they suck they shouldn't get in, and that the past precedence for the "popularity contest" was under different circumstances.

I'll do "something," and just block you.
http://www.nqcc.org/nqccweb/htdocs/Training%20pg%20crying.jpg

Have a nice life while you pursue and embrace chaos
Discussion=Chaos. Got it.

among a community you will never confront in reality.
What does that even mean? I've had discussions like this amongst my friends. Are they not real? After we do talk about music in a civilized and polite manner, though, we tend to go all Joker Batman villain on the town, you know, with all kinds of chaos pursuing and embracing.

Kind of hope you didn't block me so you can witness me making you look like a bitch.

[Ari Christos]

So from this thread I've learned that Blink-182 is "absolutely" getting into the R&R HOF. Because...well shit, their AP.Net's favorite band, right? Got it.

Blink-182 are not that influential. They just aren't.

[Broclee]

So from this thread I've learned that Blink-182 is "absolutely" getting into the R&R HOF. Because...well shit, their AP.Net's favorite band, right? Got it.

Blink-182 are not that influential. They just aren't.
Most of this thread has been people arguing against blink being a lock-in band, haha.

[Ari Christos]

Most of this thread has been people arguing against blink being a lock-in band, haha.

My bad haha I admittedly didn't go through all the posts. Dig the avatar, by the way. I've seen that movie more times than any human should. And, it introduced me to Zagnut bars!

[Broclee]

My bad haha I admittedly didn't go through all the posts. Dig the avatar, by the way. I've seen that movie more times than any human should. And, it introduced me to Zagnut bars!
You, sir, are a winner!

[boysandbulletsx]

Never said TBS was without a large fan base, and to be honest, you need more than a "cult following" behind one album and a current fan base to be inducted.




Exactly +1

No fucking shit. I never said TBS would make it into the hall of fame. My post was riddled with sarcasm. Do you understand?

[CollectiveConfusion]

What does that even mean? I've had discussions like this amongst my friends. Are they not real? After we do talk about music in a civilized and polite manner, though, we tend to go all Joker Batman villain on the town, you know, with all kinds of chaos pursuing and embracing.



while we had our disagreement, i still have to say

:appl:

i hate how people always make it seem like discussion never actually happens in the real world

[Ari Christos]

You, sir, are a winner!

No my friend, you're the winner...

...but do I win a Zagnut?!

[PenThrive]

No fucking shit. I never said TBS would make it into the hall of fame. My post was riddled with sarcasm. Do you understand?


And you're getting defensive because? Relax your little nerves.

THE END:wave:

[mattplayscheap]

just listened to some live tracks of tbs from when fred was in the band.. fred was a very entertaining dude

[fadedmemories]

It does when you talk about the Hall of fame.
After browsing through the Hall of fame roster, I can see where you're coming from.
Linkin Park is not that bad.

this. there are lots of bands that have made it big that are much worse than linkin park.
Comparing them to the worse only makes them relatively good.

[Broclee]

No my friend, you're the winner...

...but do I win a Zagnut?!

http://advantageserviceltd.com/images/ZAGNUT.jpg

[PopPunkKid]

Green Day, Coldplay, Foo Fighters, and Linkin Park are shoe-ins.

I'd say blink, Weezer, No Doubt, and Sublime are very likely candidates as well.

I could possibly see FOB making it in too, if they somehow manage to make a big comeback after this hiatus they're taking.

[xJesusFreakx]

This thread is still going?

(Read as: :postcount: )

[nikaidoh]

Green Day, Coldplay, Foo Fighters, and Linkin Park are shoe-ins.

I'd say blink, Weezer, No Doubt, and Sublime are very likely candidates as well.

I could possibly see FOB making it in too, if they somehow manage to make a big comeback after this hiatus they're taking.



All of the bands you have just named suck. Hard. Like, they're terrible. There's no way in hell any of them are getting into the rock and roll hall of fame. The fact that you think any of those bands are any good, and that you seriously suggested that they were, is an insult to any/every genre of music that has ever existed, and to musical criticism itself.


Green Day has one decent album (Dookie), two overrated albums (American Idiot/21st Century Breakdown), and the rest is shit. Sublime? Are you fucking kidding me? They were both a shitty ska-revival band, a shitty rap-crossover band, and most of them had no musical talents whatsoever. Plus, their songs are just lame. Foo Fighters is just Dave Grohl taking Kurt Cobain's songwriting formula and making it more radio-friendly, and not only did he bastardize/enable the bastardization of Nirvana's music, but he also did it very poorly. Coldplay is just a shitty pop version of Radiohead, only a lot more pretentious and with a lot less talent. Linkin Park was a shitty fad. Nu-metal is never good. They had no good songs. No Doubt was a shitty pop group that had maybe a few hits but no material worth mentioning. Blink 182 is/was melodramatic, poorly performed, obnoxious pop-punk and was a make-money scheme for the record industry from the get-go. Weezer is the same story with blink 182, except they actually did have a good, yet overrated. album in "The Blue Album" and a completely underrated and even better album with "Pinkerton", but the rest is shit. Fall Out Boy were pathetic song-writers, unexciting performers, and another fad group, just like Linkin Park and blink 182.

I'm done.

[PopPunkKid]

All of the bands you have just named suck. Hard. Like, they're terrible. There's no way in hell any of them are getting into the rock and roll hall of fame. The fact that you think any of those bands are any good, and that you seriously suggested that they were, is an insult to any/every genre of music that has ever existed, and to musical criticism itself.


Green Day has one decent album (Dookie), two overrated albums (American Idiot/21st Century Breakdown), and the rest is shit. Sublime? Are you fucking kidding me? They were both a shitty ska-revival band, a shitty rap-crossover band, and most of them had no musical talents whatsoever. Plus, their songs are just lame. Foo Fighters is just Dave Grohl taking Kurt Cobain's songwriting formula and making it more radio-friendly, and not only did he bastardize/enable the bastardization of Nirvana's music, but he also did it very poorly. Coldplay is just a shitty pop version of Radiohead, only a lot more pretentious and with a lot less talent. Linkin Park was a shitty fad. Nu-metal is never good. They had no good songs. No Doubt was a shitty pop group that had maybe a few hits but no material worth mentioning. Blink 182 is/was melodramatic, poorly performed, obnoxious pop-punk and was a make-money scheme for the record industry from the get-go. Weezer is the same story with blink 182, except they actually did have a good, yet overrated. album in "The Blue Album" and a completely underrated and even better album with "Pinkerton", but the rest is shit. Fall Out Boy were pathetic song-writers, unexciting performers, and another fad group, just like Linkin Park and blink 182.

I'm done.



Oh, I'm so sorry for offending you, oh holy musical god. Can you ever forgive me?

I guess the millions of people who love these bands, relate to their lyrics, go to their shows, and sing their hearts out along to the songs are just completely wrong, then.

[nikaidoh]

Oh, I'm so sorry for questioning you, oh holy musical god. Can you ever forgive me?

I guess the millions of people who love these bands, relate to their lyrics, go to their shows, and sing their hearts out along to the songs are just completely wrong, then.

Yeah, they kind of are. Considering there are people who feel the same way about a lot of bands that are actually better than the bands you have named. It has nothing to do with a fan base. Plenty of people love Celine Dion, is she getting into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Didn't think so. There are also plenty of people who casually listen to the bands you have named and kind of like them that may sing along to the songs and go see them play live and can relate to their lyrics. I'm sure you have strong bonds with these bands, and it's your opinion as to whether or not they are any good, but I'm obligated to share my opinion as well, and I think you are wrong, completely, utterly, entirely, etc. etc.

[fadedmemories]

Green Day, Coldplay, Foo Fighters, and Linkin Park are shoe-ins.

I'd say blink, Weezer, No Doubt, and Sublime are very likely candidates as well.

I could possibly see FOB making it in too, if they somehow manage to make a big comeback after this hiatus they're taking.
It's not an hiatus (if for example, we define hiatus as something similar to Blink's) they're merely taking a well deserved break from touring and recording.

[Broclee]

What the fuck just happened?

[xJesusFreakx]

All of the bands you have just named suck. Hard. Like, they're terrible. There's no way in hell any of them are getting into the rock and roll hall of fame. The fact that you think any of those bands are any good, and that you seriously suggested that they were, is an insult to any/every genre of music that has ever existed, and to musical criticism itself.


Green Day has one decent album (Dookie), two overrated albums (American Idiot/21st Century Breakdown), and the rest is shit. Sublime? Are you fucking kidding me? They were both a shitty ska-revival band, a shitty rap-crossover band, and most of them had no musical talents whatsoever. Plus, their songs are just lame. Foo Fighters is just Dave Grohl taking Kurt Cobain's songwriting formula and making it more radio-friendly, and not only did he bastardize/enable the bastardization of Nirvana's music, but he also did it very poorly. Coldplay is just a shitty pop version of Radiohead, only a lot more pretentious and with a lot less talent. Linkin Park was a shitty fad. Nu-metal is never good. They had no good songs. No Doubt was a shitty pop group that had maybe a few hits but no material worth mentioning. Blink 182 is/was melodramatic, poorly performed, obnoxious pop-punk and was a make-money scheme for the record industry from the get-go. Weezer is the same story with blink 182, except they actually did have a good, yet overrated. album in "The Blue Album" and a completely underrated and even better album with "Pinkerton", but the rest is shit. Fall Out Boy were pathetic song-writers, unexciting performers, and another fad group, just like Linkin Park and blink 182.

I'm done.

:soapbox:

[JohnnyEques]

Here's a video link to Taking Back Sunday acoustic performance and interview: http://tr.im/u2aU

[nikaidoh]

:soapbox:


Thanks for, uh, that...

[xJesusFreakx]

Thanks for, uh, that...

Why are you thanking me? It was your hard work, blood, sweat, and tears, not mine.

[nikaidoh]

Why are you thanking me? It was your hard work, blood, sweat, and tears, not mine.


I don't really know what that smiley was supposed to mean, so I decided I wasn't really going to try and devote too much effort into responding to that.

[xJesusFreakx]

I don't really know what that smiley was supposed to mean, so I decided I wasn't really going to try and devote too much effort into responding to that.

If you aren't going to put effort into a response, making it the best possible, why waste your time on it? All or nothing.

[nikaidoh]

If you aren't going to put effort into a response, making it the best possible, why waste your time on it? All or nothing.

Are you really a Jesus freak?

[xJesusFreakx]

Are you really a Jesus freak?

I love Jesus and live my life for Him. Is that how you define it? If so, yeah. It's also an album, and a song from that album.

[Ari Christos]

What the hell has this thread turned into?

[nikaidoh]

What the hell has this thread turned into?

Don't worry about it...

[nikaidoh]

I love Jesus and live my life for Him. Is that how you define it? If so, yeah. It's also an album, and a song from that album.

Hm, okay.

[xJesusFreakx]

What the hell has this thread turned into?

I have no idea. It should probably just die. I like my :postcount: posts, though.

[Ari Christos]

Don't worry about it...

I'm way too concerned to not worry about, dude.

[xJesusFreakx]

Hm, okay.

Did that question actually have anything to do with anything?

Probably about as much as this thread.

[Ari Christos]

I have no idea. It should probably just die. I like my :postcount: posts, though.


Haha me too. Why are that smiley's eyelids so low? Lookin' kinda suspicious.

[nikaidoh]

Did that question actually have anything to do with anything?

Probably about as much as this thread.



No, but I wanted to add to my postcount.