Um, I'm Not Sure If This Should Be Taken For Serious

[Jared Kaufman]

According to Friends Or Enemies (http://www.friendsorenemies.com/talkin/viewtalk.php), Lifetime (http://www.absolutepunk.net/lifetime) not only reunited for those few shows, but have apparently inked a deal with Fueled By Ramen (http://www.fueledbyramen.com) / Decaydance (http://www.decaydancerecords.com) Records.

[fromwithin]

shit, the pete wentz goldmine has struck a new source.

[splitsecond]

ill believe it when i see an album.

[Jason Tate]

Panic! at the Disco, FOB, Academy Is, and Lifetime tour would make elitists heads EXPLODE.

[RockVocalPower]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[YellowNovember]

damn that would be awesome

[crit]

whoa. um. whoa. i too will believe this when i see an album.

[quitmyscene]

whoa.

[Jim Morgan]

whoaaaaaaa

new lifetime record????



yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhh

[LMB]

Uh-buh? Hilarious.

[KarmaWorks]

no way in hell would a credible band like that even think about a deal like that... stupid fucking kids.

[KarolaBloch]

i heard they were getting back together for more than just reuinion shows... but that is one shitty ass label for them to sign too

[Jared Kaufman]

no way in hell would a credible band like that even think about a deal like that... stupid fucking kids.
This was posted by FOE on March 5th:

March 05 2006 | 9:35 pm | sucka free sunday
an amazing east coast band that many of you have come to love is about to announce some big news that will excite you... can we be anymore vague? we love this band too much to spoil it.

And not everyone has as much "intergrity" as you. ;)

[DroppedUrPocket]

wow

[topsecret]

i love lifetime. not so keen on this decision if it's true. i know the label isn't really that important, but still. i would love to see them tour more. the reunion show i went to was incredible. everyone singing along to all the songs. wouldn't mind doing it again.

[Jason Tate]

no way in hell would a credible band like that even think about a deal like that... stupid fucking kids.
It's not "kids" making this declaration .. just FYI.

[jkretz]

there's no fucking way they are on fueled by ramen. take this with a grain of salt. yes lifetime is writing new material (dan said so in a punknews.org interview), but fueled by ramen? i hope i don't have to eat my words on this.

[Jared Kaufman]

i heard they were getting back together for more than just reuinion shows... but that is one shitty ass label for them to sign too
Really? I think with how huge this label is now, Lifetime, who pioneered this sound and if it wasn't for them there wouldn't be any TBS, BN, STD, FOB, etc., would probably garner the attention they've deserved since the beginning.

[KarolaBloch]

Really? I think with how huge this label is now, Lifetime, who pioneered this sound and if it wasn't for them there wouldn't be any TBS, BN, STD, FOB, etc., would probably garner the attention they've deserved since the beginning.
i'll agree with that. but i just really don't like that label.
i think lifetime would have to change their sound a little to be more marketable on the likes of radio and mtv though. idk

[IAPAI]

cashews!

[Jason Tate]

i'll agree with that. but i just really don't like that label.
i think lifetime would have to change their sound a little to be more marketable on the likes of radio and mtv though. idk
I don't - if Avenged Sevenfold can be on TRL, Lifetime can be on TRL.

[chokeychicken]

i honestly just cannot see this happening. lifetime is a respectful band. they don't seem to get caught up in the glamour that seems to come along with being in this scene. plus, they couldn't thank jade tree enough at the east coast reunion shows. why wouldn't they re-sign to jade tree, release a new record, and do a few incredible tours to satisfy us?

and for the record, is any type of fall out boy/academy is/panic!/lifetime tour ever took place, i will stop listening to music. not because i'm an elitist, but because it will mean that this scene is doomed, and every last ounce of hope is lost.

[KarolaBloch]

I don't - if Avenged Sevenfold can be on TRL, Lifetime can be on TRL.
haha true.

[Jared Kaufman]

i honestly just cannot see this happening. lifetime is a respectful band. they don't seem to get caught up in the glamour that seems to come along with being in this scene. plus, they couldn't thank jade tree enough at the east coast reunion shows. why wouldn't they re-sign to jade tree, release a new record, and do a few incredible tours to satisfy us?

and for the record, is any type of fall out boy/academy is/panic!/lifetime tour ever took place, i will stop listening to music. not because i'm an elitist, but because it will mean that this scene is doomed, and every last ounce of hope is lost.
That's a very sad, cynical outlook on things.

[KarolaBloch]

i honestly just cannot see this happening. lifetime is a respectful band. they don't seem to get caught up in the glamour that seems to come along with being in this scene. plus, they couldn't thank jade tree enough at the east coast reunion shows. why wouldn't they re-sign to jade tree, release a new record, and do a few incredible tours to satisfy us?

and for the record, is any type of fall out boy/academy is/panic!/lifetime tour ever took place, i will stop listening to music. not because i'm an elitist, but because it will mean that this scene is doomed, and every last ounce of hope is lost.
you have some good points. especially the last one

[chokeychicken]

speaking of marketable, when is vin diesel going to come out and admit that he's the lead singer of lifetime?

[quitmyscene]

i honestly just cannot see this happening. lifetime is a respectful band. they don't seem to get caught up in the glamour that seems to come along with being in this scene. plus, they couldn't thank jade tree enough at the east coast reunion shows. why wouldn't they re-sign to jade tree, release a new record, and do a few incredible tours to satisfy us?

and for the record, is any type of fall out boy/academy is/panic!/lifetime tour ever took place, i will stop listening to music. not because i'm an elitist, but because it will mean that this scene is doomed, and every last ounce of hope is lost.
i don't know.. people getting into lifetime seems more like gained hope rather than lost hope.

[KarolaBloch]

That's a very sad, cynical outlook on things.
while it is cynical and sad. he has some points. some may be a little far fetched

[cora_ann]

i honestly just cannot see this happening. lifetime is a respectful band. they don't seem to get caught up in the glamour that seems to come along with being in this scene. plus, they couldn't thank jade tree enough at the east coast reunion shows. why wouldn't they re-sign to jade tree, release a new record, and do a few incredible tours to satisfy us?

and for the record, is any type of fall out boy/academy is/panic!/lifetime tour ever took place, i will stop listening to music. not because i'm an elitist, but because it will mean that this scene is doomed, and every last ounce of hope is lost.

Wow, you're a negative Nancy. I think if the music industry could survive the backstreet boys, the "scene" will be fine.

[Tenn]

that's what I heard too, pretty awesome. i would LOVE to go see them.

[Speyside]

Panic! at the Disco, FOB, Academy Is, and Lifetime tour would make elitists heads EXPLODE.
Be still my heart

[chokeychicken]

That's a very sad, cynical outlook on things.

why, mr. kaufman? why is that a cynical outlook on a scene that i and many others on this website have watched decay before our very eyes in the last 5 years? a scene that was once everything that we are and want to be in life has been mocked and marketed to the masses for spoon feeding.

if lifetime does sign to FBR, and a fall out boy/panic!/lifetime tour happened in the fall...that would mean that lifetime is only in this reunion for the money. that's something that every member of that band claimed they never did it for. but we'd obviously see that as a lie if you sign to one of the hottest indie labels in the country and tour with bands that you have no business touring with, simply because they can't play a show that doesn't sell out, even if they tried.

if this is the lifetime return that's been talked about for the past 12 months, i don't want any part of it. i'll keep the memories i have of one of the best weekends of my life in philly last august, seeing a show the way shows were meant to be.

[Jared Kaufman]

i don't know.. people getting into lifetime seems more like gained hope rather than lost hope.
My sentiments exactly.

[chokeychicken]

i don't know.. people getting into lifetime seems more like gained hope rather than lost hope.

how? kids would be listening to lifetime for the same reason they listen to any other band fall out boy takes on tour - because its trendy, and because pete wentz says so. how is that gaining any sort of hope about what this scene has become?

[DroppedUrPocket]

I don't - if Avenged Sevenfold can be on TRL, Lifetime can be on TRL.
I disagree. I'm pretty sure A7X's image is why they are popular, to be honest.

I mean, I like their music, but I don't think it's very appealing to other people. But hey, them being number one, they must be doing something right.

[Jared Kaufman]

why, mr. kaufman? why is that a cynical outlook on a scene that i and many others on this website have watched decay before our very eyes in the last 5 years? a scene that was once everything that we are and want to be in life has been mocked and marketed to the masses for spoon feeding.

if lifetime does sign to FBR, and a fall out boy/panic!/lifetime tour happened in the fall...that would mean that lifetime is only in this reunion for the money. that's something that every member of that band claimed they never did it for. but we'd obviously see that as a lie if you sign to one of the hottest indie labels in the country and tour with bands that you have no business touring with, simply because they can't play a show that doesn't sell out, even if they tried.

if this is the lifetime return that's been talked about for the past 12 months, i don't want any part of it. i'll keep the memories i have of one of the best weekends of my life in philly last august, seeing a show the way shows were meant to be.
I don't know -- there's just a part of me that wants every Fall Out Boy fan to know who Saves The Day and Lifetime are. There's a part of me that wants every My Chemical Romance fan to know who Alkaline Trio is. With things such as this, I see it as more of an oppurtunity for kids to appreciate the roots of the bands they love now. To me that doesn't seem like such a negative thing, let alone the end of the world (or "scene").

[chokeychicken]

I don't know -- there's just a part of me that wants every Fall Out Boy fan to know who Saves The Day and Lifetime are. There's a part of me that wants every My Chemical Romance fan to know who Alkaline Trio is. With things such as this, I see it as more of an oppurtunity for kids to appreciate the roots of the bands they love now. To me that doesn't seem like such a negative thing, let alone the end of the world (or "scene").

but there's a line between "i listen to morrisey because jesse lacey told me to!" and "i listen to fugazi be because I want to appreciate where the bands I love came from." if you listen to a band that has broken up and has influenced bands that exist today simply because you think it's the cool thing to do or because you want to fit in on a punknews.org message board, I'd rather you not like them at all. jared, you can say that you want all these kids who like fall out boy to listen to and appreciate saves the day and lifetime, but it's just not realistic. a lot of these kids who go to fall out boy shows don't appreciate bands like fall out enough to even dig into their catelog and listen to the older material. why? because it's not on TRL, of course.

i'm all for showing respect to your elders, but showing respect and trying to be trendy are two very different things.

[Jonathan London]

uh... holy fucking shit? holy fucking shit... HOLY FUCKING SHIT!?! Those're the stages of my possible excitement.

[underthetalking]

No fucking way.

[DSCN1854]

but there's a line between "i listen to morrisey because jesse lacey told me to!" and "i listen to fugazi be because I want to appreciate where the bands I love came from." if you listen to a band that has broken up and has influenced bands that exist today simply because you think it's the cool thing to do or because you want to fit in on a punknews.org message board, I'd rather you not like them at all. jared, you can say that you want all these kids who like fall out boy to listen to and appreciate saves the day and lifetime, but it's just not realistic. a lot of these kids who go to fall out boy shows don't appreciate bands like fall out enough to even dig into their catelog and listen to the older material. why? because it's not on TRL, of course.

i'm all for showing respect to your elders, but showing respect and trying to be trendy are two very different things.

And the winner is...... chokeychicken.

Sorry Jared. Getting defeated must be hard huh?

[Darren McLeod]

I'll believe it when its official. After watching the Kid Dynamite DVD and seeing how close Dan is to Deep Elm, plus he's on their label for Paint It Black, I'd just find it hard to believe.

[quitmyscene]

how? kids would be listening to lifetime for the same reason they listen to any other band fall out boy takes on tour - because its trendy, and because pete wentz says so. how is that gaining any sort of hope about what this scene has become?
i'm not saying it's more or less hope for the scene, but i know if i were in the car listening to the radio, i'd rather hear lifetime than say, the pussycat dolls or black eyed peas.
and there's always at least a few kids who get into something because it's trendy and popular but they can end up loving it and really appreciating it. maybe they've never been introduced to it before, and if it takes fall out boy to get them into it, and they end up really liking them, good for them. if that happens, i don't think it matters how they got into it.

[Jason Tate]

how? kids would be listening to lifetime for the same reason they listen to any other band fall out boy takes on tour - because its trendy, and because pete wentz says so. how is that gaining any sort of hope about what this scene has become?
Music's meant to be heard, yes? If you continue to complain about how it's heard - you really have no business talking about music at all. Get over yourself ...

I don't even know if this news is true, and my tour post was a joke (ironic that it actually did make you explode).

[Melie]

pete also said on his journal that some "very exciting news about decaydance is coming up." so... we'll see.

[vegasbabyvegas]

and for the record, is any type of fall out boy/academy is/panic!/lifetime tour ever took place, i will stop listening to music. not because i'm an elitist, but because it will mean that this scene is doomed, and every last ounce of hope is lost.
The "scene" has been doomed from people like you for awhile now...

[AFSjulian]

I think that in this day and age, the only way kids can be exposed to anything is via the internet, television, or word of mouth. So what if it's Pete Wentz doing the talking? They're still listening to good music... music that deserves to be listened to... and that's what's important.

I myself started listening to Sunny Day Real Estate and Jawbreaker and Lifetime because of that Andy Greenwald book, which I picked up because of bands like Dashboard Confessional, Taking Back Sunday, and Brand New. Fuck you if you say that makes me any less of a fan or that I don't relate to the music or that I'm just following a trend.

I hope this happens. That means we'll see a lot more Lifetime and that can't be a bad thing.

[Jared Kaufman]

And the winner is...... chokeychicken.

Sorry Jared. Getting defeated must be hard huh?
Yeah, having an intelligent, calm discussion with someone over opinion is getting PWNED! Boy, is my face red!

[Manervous]

i'll agree with that. but i just really don't like that label.
i think lifetime would have to change their sound a little to be more marketable on the likes of radio and mtv though. idk

I don't think anyone who'd sign Lifetime would be dumb enough to try to make them more marketable. They're a bonefide punk band...my guess is they'll probably record another Lifetime record for like two weeks all first takes and just two guitars, drums, bass, and Ari. No pre-production, no bullshit. Just awesome. And there's NO WAY they're gonna work this to MTV or radio. I'd bet money on that.

[vegasbabyvegas]

Really? I think with how huge this label is now, Lifetime, who pioneered this sound and if it wasn't for them there wouldn't be any TBS, BN, STD, FOB, etc., would probably garner the attention they've deserved since the beginning.
Exactly my thoughts.

[Jared Kaufman]

but there's a line between "i listen to morrisey because jesse lacey told me to!" and "i listen to fugazi be because I want to appreciate where the bands I love came from." if you listen to a band that has broken up and has influenced bands that exist today simply because you think it's the cool thing to do or because you want to fit in on a punknews.org message board, I'd rather you not like them at all. jared, you can say that you want all these kids who like fall out boy to listen to and appreciate saves the day and lifetime, but it's just not realistic. a lot of these kids who go to fall out boy shows don't appreciate bands like fall out enough to even dig into their catelog and listen to the older material. why? because it's not on TRL, of course.

i'm all for showing respect to your elders, but showing respect and trying to be trendy are two very different things.
Interesting point -- I can see what you're saying and where you're coming from.

[Jason Tate]

but there's a line between "i listen to morrisey because jesse lacey told me to!" and "i listen to fugazi be because I want to appreciate where the bands I love came from." if you listen to a band that has broken up and has influenced bands that exist today simply because you think it's the cool thing to do or because you want to fit in on a punknews.org message board, I'd rather you not like them at all. jared, you can say that you want all these kids who like fall out boy to listen to and appreciate saves the day and lifetime, but it's just not realistic. a lot of these kids who go to fall out boy shows don't appreciate bands like fall out enough to even dig into their catelog and listen to the older material. why? because it's not on TRL, of course.

i'm all for showing respect to your elders, but showing respect and trying to be trendy are two very different things.

Who are you to say why people should or shouldn't listen to music? Seriously though, why are you the one that gets to decide if people listen to Morrissey because of Jesse Lacey or because they saw a tshirt somewhere, or they heard he was an influential artist? Music gets heard for a variety of reasons - in my opinon, why and the motives behind why, are miniscule in comparison to the fact that the music itself WAS heard. If someone listens to a band because you tell them, because I tell them, or because Pete Wentz tells them means relatively the same. The only difference is the scope and amount of people we can each reach.

This music is trendy, it is .. fuck, I am trying to make a living off this trend. But if only ONE person who trys to be trendy has their life changed by what they find - WHO THE FUCK CARES! That's my whole deal. Not everyone finds music the same way you did. Hell, I fell into this "scene" because a friend left his CD booklet over at my house. How people find music doesn't matter all that much to me (and it shouldn't to you) - what should matter is that people DO find it. Regardless of their motives (trendy or pure), the music still means something and can still find a way to change even the trendiest of hearts.

This "it's my music and you can't listen unless I deem you worthy" attitude has got to stop. It reminds me of the South Park with George Lucas running around going, "but they're my movies.." and it's absolutely absurd.

[Pat Marquez]

Lifetime is an incredible band. I hope this is true.

[worldsattack]

how? kids would be listening to lifetime for the same reason they listen to any other band fall out boy takes on tour - because its trendy, and because pete wentz says so. how is that gaining any sort of hope about what this scene has become?

exactly.

i'm all about kids recognizing the roots from which their music originated from, but lifetime signing to fueled by ramen is absolutely not the way to do it. kids that really are interested will look into it themselves rather than waiting for pete wentz to endorse it. it shouldn't be that easy.

maybe i have a different outlook, because that's the way i was when i started listening to the music i listen to now. when i first heard that "can't slow down" was a lifetime rip-off record in 1999, i immediately purchased "jersey's best dancers" because i was legitimately curious and passionate to know who inspired my favorite band so heavily. now that i'm older, i realize that most kids that are new to this music don't take that route. as much as i'd love to believe that they do - it just doesn't happen that way. people don't appreciate music the way that they used to.

98% of typical fall out boy fans surely don't recognize how similar pete wentz's writing style is to that of wes eisold of american nightmare/give up the ghost. some of his lyrics are exactly the same, and their styles are sometimes scarily similar. i'm sure that when fall out boy played under "saved latin," no one knew or cared that there's an american nightmare song under the name "i saved latin" - but they all knew it was from "rushmore," because i read about it all of the time online. kids are too willing to swallow what they're fed instead of trying to find something that they can make their own.

similarly, when i saw the fire theft open for saves the day, i was completely in awe to just be in the presence of jeremy enigk. i watched in amazement while kids made fun of them and threw stuff during their set. i just wanted to scream, "if you knew the impact this man had on the music you listen to, you wouldn't be saying that." the fact is - they wouldn't care, and it breaks my heart.

don't get me wrong...i love fall out boy, and i like a lot of bands associated with them. i have a lot of respect for pete as a musician and as a person, and i think it's awesome that someone who is as true as he seems to be is doing so well. i don't know him, but i can tell in interviews that he actually knows and cares about music and people. i just don't appreciate the people that worship him simply because he's him, and will believe and do anything so long as it comes from his lips (or fingertips).

and after all of that mumbo jumbo...i really think lifetime has more integrity than to make a deal like this. seeing them was definitely one of the most amazing experiences of my life, and i know that they are genuine people that probably wouldn't sacrifice anything for material gain. at least i hope so.

(sorry that was ridiculously long, but it's something i feel very passionately about)

[xearlynovemberx]

oh please be true

[zizou1790]

i dont believe this at all.

[Pat Marquez]

why, mr. kaufman? why is that a cynical outlook on a scene that i and many others on this website have watched decay before our very eyes in the last 5 years? a scene that was once everything that we are and want to be in life has been mocked and marketed to the masses for spoon feeding.

if lifetime does sign to FBR, and a fall out boy/panic!/lifetime tour happened in the fall...that would mean that lifetime is only in this reunion for the money. that's something that every member of that band claimed they never did it for. but we'd obviously see that as a lie if you sign to one of the hottest indie labels in the country and tour with bands that you have no business touring with, simply because they can't play a show that doesn't sell out, even if they tried.

if this is the lifetime return that's been talked about for the past 12 months, i don't want any part of it. i'll keep the memories i have of one of the best weekends of my life in philly last august, seeing a show the way shows were meant to be.
I can't stand people that knock bands for trying to make money. You can have a nice pay check and not sacrifice integrity. Lifetime have been through it all and this is the respect that they finally deserve. EVERYONE needs to make money, come on, that is a given.

[zizou1790]

fbr will definatly cash in on this though big time congrats

[Brandn3w]

this is really awesome that they inked a deal... but why FBR? little girls are going to ruin lifetime. Im just about 17 and i was one of the youngest kids at their reunion shows and it was awesome because it was all older kids, but if theyre on FBR its going to be all like 12 year old girls from now on.

[Pat Marquez]

how? kids would be listening to lifetime for the same reason they listen to any other band fall out boy takes on tour - because its trendy, and because pete wentz says so. how is that gaining any sort of hope about what this scene has become?
Haha dude way to assume things. Chill out. Christ, you listen to The Get Up Kids and Saves The Day, they are pretty popular, I guess you should stop listening to them now.

[Pat Marquez]

I want to know where ChokeYourChicken finds music, because he aint listening to no one sucka!!! He must just have bands pop into his head.

[duffe]

Wow.

[Pat Marquez]

this is really awesome that they inked a deal... but why FBR? little girls are going to ruin lifetime. Im just about 17 and i was one of the youngest kids at their reunion shows and it was awesome because it was all older kids, but if theyre on FBR its going to be all like 12 year old girls from now on.
I have a very hard time seeing 12 year old girls ruining Lifetime shows. And lets be honest, stop being sexist, there are plenty of guys that are annoying at shows as well. Don't make such rash generalizations. I don't know if you were forgetting but you were probably a little kid once that pissed people off at shows.

Just learn to ignore people, it's not that hard.

[patrickhowell]

Pete Wentz is one of the biggest Lifetime fans out there. If he signed them to his label, he is not going to try to change them; he is probably hooking them up with an amazing deal. I doubt that anyone would try to help Lifetime more than Pete will.

[xearlynovemberx]

Haha dude way to assume things. Chill out. Christ, you listen to The Get Up Kids and Saves The Day, they are pretty popular, I guess you should stop listening to them now.

pat owning someone part 1

[xearlynovemberx]

I have a very hard time seeing 12 year old girls ruining Lifetime shows. And lets be honest, stop being sexist, there are plenty of guys that are annoying at shows as well. Don't make such rash generalizations. I don't know if you were forgetting but you were probably a little kid once that pissed people off at shows.

Just learn to ignore people, it's not that hard.

pat owning someone part 2

[worldsattack]

Pete Wentz is one of the biggest Lifetime fans out there. If he signed them to his label, he is not going to try to change them; he is probably hooking them up with an amazing deal. I doubt that anyone would try to help Lifetime more than Pete will.

i definitely have to agree with this if this whole shenanigan is true.

[worldsattack]

I can't stand people that knock bands for trying to make money. You can have a nice pay check and not sacrifice integrity. Lifetime have been through it all and this is the respect that they finally deserve. EVERYONE needs to make money, come on, that is a given.

i definitely agree, and lifetime has certainly paid their dues. i just think that it hits differently because they are noted for their charity and liberalism. if they were trying to cash in, it might seem hypocritical. now everyone can have the "selling out" debate circa '99-'00.

[dukeboy1986]

There is no scene but then again I'm a fan of nihilism today. ;)

[Becca]

the only absolutely amazing thing I see coming out of this, call it selfish, is that maybe this means I'll finally get to see them live since I can't drive 5+ hours and pay 30+ dollars to see a lot of bands I don't care about and Lifetime. I'm going to have to agree with the people that say that Pete is (hopefully) smart enough not to mess with what they are, and they're a smart enough band to just stick to what they do best, which is making balls out punk rock. Lifetime will always be a much more influential and (in my opinion) better band than the FOBs and MCRs of today.


and even if the new stuff is absolutely terrible, we'll at least have background, jersey's best dancers and hello bastards.

part of me still wishes they went back to Jade Tree, though.

[chokeychicken]

Music's meant to be heard, yes? If you continue to complain about how it's heard - you really have no business talking about music at all. Get over yourself ...

I don't even know if this news is true, and my tour post was a joke (ironic that it actually did make you explode).

jason, nothing in this thread has made my head explode except the comments you've made. jared and i were having an intelligent conversation. nobody was getting pwned, nobody was being an asshole or immature. we were simply having a conversation about music and our opinions. isn't that why you made this message board? or am i missing the entire point of these forums?

don't try to call me an elitist under your breath because i had an opinion that happened to be negative about a band like lifetime possibly becoming just another band in this scene. it's not an easy thing to watch.

Yeah, having an intelligent, calm discussion with someone over opinion is getting PWNED! Boy, is my face red!

Thanks, Jared.

The "scene" has been doomed from people like you for awhile now...

Oh man, that was clever. Way to use puns and creative arguments to support yourself. However, I am caught red-handed. Once again, by being upset at the thought of lifetime becoming just another band that doesn't stand for anything within the music industry and going against things they have stated time and time again they would never do, I have single handedly destroyed the entire scene of underground music. Will you accept my apology?

I think that in this day and age, the only way kids can be exposed to anything is via the internet, television, or word of mouth. So what if it's Pete Wentz doing the talking? They're still listening to good music... music that deserves to be listened to... and that's what's important.

I myself started listening to Sunny Day Real Estate and Jawbreaker and Lifetime because of that Andy Greenwald book, which I picked up because of bands like Dashboard Confessional, Taking Back Sunday, and Brand New. Fuck you if you say that makes me any less of a fan or that I don't relate to the music or that I'm just following a trend.

I hope this happens. That means we'll see a lot more Lifetime and that can't be a bad thing.

I read that book in 15 hours. It was one of the best books I've read in a long time, and I've been meaning to go back and read it again. Ironically, I read it on my way to Kansas City to see...yep. the last get up kids show ever. However, that doesn't make you any less of a fan that anybody else. You're missing my point. My point is that when i go to a fall out boy show, and they played "honorable mention," 3 kids are up front who know the words. When I go see Jimmy Eat World, and they play "lucky denver mints," everybody stands around with their finger up their butt. If these kids really love these bands, why can't they show enough respect to listen to more than just the album that they heard on the radio? When I love a band, I want every single piece of music that band has ever made. B-sides, rareities, live sets, old records, out of print demos, anything. And it really bothers me when people "are obsessed with a band," because they know "The Middle" and "Sweetness." My point is that yes, music was made to be heard. But listening to only "From Under the Cork Tree" and being ignorant and refusing to listen to or explore any other fall out boy CD because its not on the radio is retarded. And yet, at the same time, its completely realistic and fans like that make up a lot of FOB's fanbase these days. If that makes me an elitist, let me know where to sign.

exactly.

i'm all about kids recognizing the roots from which their music originated from, but lifetime signing to fueled by ramen is absolutely not the way to do it. kids that really are interested will look into it themselves rather than waiting for pete wentz to endorse it. it shouldn't be that easy.

maybe i have a different outlook, because that's the way i was when i started listening to the music i listen to now. when i first heard that "can't slow down" was a lifetime rip-off record in 1999, i immediately purchased "jersey's best dancers" because i was legitimately curious and passionate to know who inspired my favorite band so heavily. now that i'm older, i realize that most kids that are new to this music don't take that route. as much as i'd love to believe that they do - it just doesn't happen that way. people don't appreciate music the way that they used to.

98% of typical fall out boy fans surely don't recognize how similar pete wentz's writing style is to that of wes eisold of american nightmare/give up the ghost. some of his lyrics are exactly the same, and their styles are sometimes scarily similar. i'm sure that when fall out boy played under "saved latin," no one knew or cared that there's an american nightmare song under the name "i saved latin" - but they all knew it was from "rushmore," because i read about it all of the time online. kids are too willing to swallow what they're fed instead of trying to find something that they can make their own.

similarly, when i saw the fire theft open for saves the day, i was completely in awe to just be in the presence of jeremy enigk. i watched in amazement while kids made fun of them and threw stuff during their set. i just wanted to scream, "if you knew the impact this man had on the music you listen to, you wouldn't be saying that." the fact is - they wouldn't care, and it breaks my heart.

don't get me wrong...i love fall out boy, and i like a lot of bands associated with them. i have a lot of respect for pete as a musician and as a person, and i think it's awesome that someone who is as true as he seems to be is doing so well. i don't know him, but i can tell in interviews that he actually knows and cares about music and people. i just don't appreciate the people that worship him simply because he's him, and will believe and do anything so long as it comes from his lips (or fingertips).

and after all of that mumbo jumbo...i really think lifetime has more integrity than to make a deal like this. seeing them was definitely one of the most amazing experiences of my life, and i know that they are genuine people that probably wouldn't sacrifice anything for material gain. at least i hope so.

(sorry that was ridiculously long, but it's something i feel very passionately about)

that's pretty much everything i wanted to say on this topic. thank you. we have the same mind.

I can't stand people that knock bands for trying to make money. You can have a nice pay check and not sacrifice integrity. Lifetime have been through it all and this is the respect that they finally deserve. EVERYONE needs to make money, come on, that is a given.

But see Pat, that's the point. Ever since they broke up, Yemin has said they're not in it for the money, they're not in it for the money, they will never get back together, they will never play another show with the scene the way it is, they're not it for the hipster bullshit...and then they played Hellfest, because it was for a great cause. And then they played the west coast, because they had a great time playing Hellfest. But now you're telling me that they're going to sign to FBR and probably tour with bands like Academy Is and get paid millions and be the next trendy thing in underground music...and that's not getting a paycheck AND compromising your own morals that you set for yourself? Get real.

Haha dude way to assume things. Chill out. Christ, you listen to The Get Up Kids and Saves The Day, they are pretty popular, I guess you should stop listening to them now.

Not once in this entire thread did I say there is anything wrong with listening to a band because they are popular.

I want to know where ChokeYourChicken finds music, because he aint listening to no one sucka!!! He must just have bands pop into his head.

i swear to god, you are the only staff member that cannot contribute something intelligent to a forum dicussion thread.

[unwritten]

I don't care what record label they are on, I want a new album! Fuck all the music elitists that visit this site.

[exthuse]

What. The. Fuck.

[LouderThanBombs]

why, mr. kaufman? why is that a cynical outlook on a scene that i and many others on this website have watched decay before our very eyes in the last 5 years? a scene that was once everything that we are and want to be in life has been mocked and marketed to the masses for spoon feeding.

if lifetime does sign to FBR, and a fall out boy/panic!/lifetime tour happened in the fall...that would mean that lifetime is only in this reunion for the money. that's something that every member of that band claimed they never did it for. but we'd obviously see that as a lie if you sign to one of the hottest indie labels in the country and tour with bands that you have no business touring with, simply because they can't play a show that doesn't sell out, even if they tried.

if this is the lifetime return that's been talked about for the past 12 months, i don't want any part of it. i'll keep the memories i have of one of the best weekends of my life in philly last august, seeing a show the way shows were meant to be.

this is the second time i've said this to someone on here today...

you're an idiot.

this doesn't mean lifetime is doing it for money, and only money.
news flash, mister...all bands WANT TO MAKE MONEY. they all have lives, wives, kids, and families to feed and take care of.
that's reality.
i'm in a band.
i wouldn't think twice if asked to tour with FOB, or any of those bands.
pete writes great lyrics.
fob is a great band.
this "scene" isn't dead, it's more alive than it's been in years, sir.

you're one of those elitists who like to keep every little band "your little secret".
well that's just selfish.
if you love lifetime
and what they stand for
wouldn't you want to share that feeling and meaning with other people?

[Jason Tate]

jason, nothing in this thread has made my head explode except the comments you've made. jared and i were having an intelligent conversation. nobody was getting pwned, nobody was being an asshole or immature. we were simply having a conversation about music and our opinions. isn't that why you made this message board? or am i missing the entire point of these forums?

don't try to call me an elitist under your breath because i had an opinion that happened to be negative about a band like lifetime possibly becoming just another band in this scene. it's not an easy thing to watch.

I'm only responding to the post made to me, I figure everyone else can respond to the parts to them if they feel the need.

If my comments make your "head explode" - I feel sorry for you, I really do. It means you'll never truly understand what being a music fan is all about. You'll continue to worry about petty little things and waste away your time afraid of becoming the very thing you have always hated. That's no way to experience music. That's no way to live life. I used to be like that until I woke up and hated myself for it, so stop now - while there's still time.

I also have a hard time considering your conversation of opinions "intelligent" because it sure seemed like a lot of superfluous bullshit caked in a guise of being an actual opinion. This message board was in fact made for having conversations about music, why do you think I responded to you? Geez. Kind of a lame thing to say when we're sitting here posting back and forth don't you think? I think I know what the message board I made is used for ...

I'm not calling you anything under my breath, I flat out said it to your face dude. I think you're a selfish individual who can't accept that not only is Lifetime already "just another band in this scene" - but that it doesn't even fucking matter. Seriously, it doesn't matter at all. Get over yourself and stop pretending that because a band doesn't do what you want them to - they're wrong, or their music is tainted. Stop pretending that if someone discovers a band via the "wrong route" that they're not as good of a fan as someone who had the band's name spontaneously appear in their head.

You're being selfish about something that you have no right being selfish over .. music is meant to be heard. People everywhere should be exposed to it - and I don't think it's your right to tell anyone they can't (or shouldn't, or whatever) listen to a band because of their label, or what band member is promoting them. That's just stupid. That's the bottom line, I think you're an elitist and stupid. Nothing's hidden here, I'm being honest. If your precious little band becomes the next big trendy thing, I'm sorry that you can't listen to them anymore (I really am). Regardless, I couldn't care less who listens to the same music as me as long as I get the benifit of hearing it ... I'll listen to the music because I love it. If you ask me, ditching a band for the reasons you've named in this thread - is the only trendy (sellout) attitude.

[topsecret]

Pat Marquez's posts are useless. Sick of seeing weak shit here & jocking all the bands on myspace "let me know if you need anything".

I think a Lifetime show would be ruined by 12 year old girls. You wouldn't know though because you've probably never seen Lifetime. I attended 2 of the reunion shows & was very pleased to see an older crowd. None of this stupid "scene" shit.

[Drew Beringer]

First off, fuck the scene. I never want to be a part of that bullshit, so I don't care what label Lifetime signs to. Let's think of the big picture here people. LIFETIME is going to put out ANOTHER FUCKIN ALBUM! Just get excited about that. Fuck the extra bullshit.

[unwritten]

First off, fuck the scene. I never want to be a part of that bullshit, so I don't care what label Lifetime signs to. Let's think of the big picture here people. LIFETIME is going to put out ANOTHER FUCKIN ALBUM! Just get excited about that. Fuck the extra bullshit.

Exactly.

[worldsattack]

You're being selfish about something that you have no right being selfish over .. music is meant to be heard. People everywhere should be exposed to it - and I don't think it's your right to tell anyone they can't (or shouldn't, or whatever) listen to a band because of their label, or what band member is promoting them. That's just stupid. That's the bottom line, I think you're an elitist and stupid. Nothing's hidden here, I'm being honest. If your precious little band becomes the next big trendy thing, I'm sorry that you can't listen to them anymore (I really am). Regardless, I couldn't care less who listens to the same music as me as long as I get the benifit of hearing it ... I'll listen to the music because I love it. If you ask me, ditching a band for the reasons you've named in this thread - is the only trendy (sellout) attitude.

jason, i honestly have a lot of respect for you simply because if you didn't love music, you wouldn't run this website. plain and simple. however, do you honestly feel that music is simply meant to only be heard and not appreciated? with all of the bands that put so much work into their passion, that they don't deserve a loyal fanbase who truly appreciates them? you never blatantly said that, but that seems to be your implication.

if there are some people who heard about lifetime (or any other band) from pete wentz that actually ended up finding a band they loved, that's great. but i think, if someone puts "lifetime" in their myspace music simply because that's what's cool these days, that the band deserves much more than to be overlooked by people. granted, there are thousands of dedicated fans that overshadow the people that don't really "get it," but i have found that the people that "get it" are much sparser than those who do it to look cool.

and in relation to your last sentence...what do you find to be a legitimate reason to ditch a band? i personally don't think there are any. people that love a band and then deny that they ever did are ridiculous. but i'm pretty sure that you mentioned giving up on saves the day in your review for "sound the alarm," so i was just wondering if you felt there are reasons to do that.

and for the record, i never said that i would stop supporting lifetime if this was true.

[SummerxStars]

did anyone else go "what the fuck???!" after reading this?

[Nate_RAWKS]

stunned....

[Nate_RAWKS]

First off, fuck the scene. I never want to be a part of that bullshit, so I don't care what label Lifetime signs to. Let's think of the big picture here people. LIFETIME is going to put out ANOTHER FUCKIN ALBUM! Just get excited about that. Fuck the extra bullshit.


exactly.

[worldsattack]

First off, fuck the scene. I never want to be a part of that bullshit, so I don't care what label Lifetime signs to. Let's think of the big picture here people. LIFETIME is going to put out ANOTHER FUCKIN ALBUM! Just get excited about that. Fuck the extra bullshit.

the best part is that i am virtually positive that they'll still be able to pull it off well. the members have actively been in other (amazing) projects, so they'll be on top of their game. they still have the heart for it, and i definitely am looking forward to the future. it won't be like that guns 'n' roses "reunion" or whatever that was on mtv awhile back...

[BtoTheRad]

I don't - if Avenged Sevenfold can be on TRL, Lifetime can be on TRL.

If Scene Points were still in tact I'd Remove the fuck out of yours for that statement Tate.

You can't Compare Avenged Sevenfold to Lifetime, That is more than a slight discredit to a band that pioneered the sound that most of the bands on this site everybody jacks off over

[SummerxStars]

i never saw this posted on here, but apparently lifetime was supposed to play a show with my chemical romance.

[Becca]

I think they did. it was the Shirts For A cure show at South By Southwest. TREOS, Head Automatica and a few other bands played, too.

[From: Skulls]

punknews.org just shit itself

[resUrectMe617]

one question: why? lifetime is lifetime...what would possess them to sign to FBR/decaydence? would no better label have taken them if they were available on the market? pete must have offered one hell of a big check to these guys.

[pretty_in_punk3]

...speechless...

[patrickhowell]

one question: why? lifetime is lifetime...what would possess them to sign to FBR/decaydence? would no better label have taken them if they were available on the market? pete must have offered one hell of a big check to these guys.


He's probably giving them a lot of creative freedom plus whatever else they want.

[00spool]

what do you find to be a legitimate reason to ditch a band?

They put out an album that you don't like. (a reason to ditch the music)

or

they do something that contradicts your values. (a reason to ditch a "band")

[BE A MAN]

i might murder lifetime then kill myself if this is true. fuck that.

[fuller]

you all forget where pete grew up in. he grew up on lifetime just like all of you. he grew up on the hardcore scene just like all of you. he's giving lifetime a chance to do something that they deserve and that is to finally go big. not TRL big, but big enough to show people what this "scene" used to be. i have never seen lifetime in my Tower Records that's for sure and it makes me sick. With FBR exploding who says that they'll even have to be paired up with P!TAD and all that noise. it's lifetime for fucks sake. let them open these kid's ears like they did for you years ago. the majority of you whine about how mainstream music is shit and how we'll never have music like it was in the 60s and 70s like grunge in the 90s, well here's a band who can shake things up and you're denying them that.

you're the reason why the scene gets made fun of.

open up.

[NerdXCorE]

I don't see lifetime releasing a record anywhere other than Jade Tree, it's where lifetime and kid dynamite both called home

[The Revisionist]

Another glaring example of why spreading gossip is a bad idea. I'm sure I come off as somewhat cynical of this website and some of its staff, but the spreading of information that has yet to be officially verified will just continue to get people's pants pissy when they potentionally have no reason to be, and it's the one true problem I have with AP. That is another debate, though.

THAT BEING SAID...
- I would love to hear another Lifetime album.
- FBR is actually quite the appropriate label for it to be released on... as it's been stated, so many bands associated with FBR have been influenced by Lifetime, it would make complete sense to bring that flagship band around to show everybody what the real deal is. I am not the biggest Pete Wentz fan at all, but with all of the love he has spoken for Lifetime as well as all of the love that he knows so many others have for the band, he would have to be the stupidest motherfucker in the world to try to get a hand into their writing/music at all. I trust he is smart enough to realize this.
- If you are assuming that somebody is not going to genuinely enjoy a band and their music/message solely because of who they are associated with, then you're a tool. Of course plenty of people are going to listen to it because of the label or who is promoting them or whatever, and after three months they won't give a fuck anymore. However, there will be plenty of people who buy the album and will love it so much that they'll want to explore the back catalog and basically become obsessed with the band. I can't tell you HOW many times that has happened to me ever since Erick Lewis lent me an album in 1998 by some band called Pennywise, and I'm sure that there are plenty of more stories similar to that from so many people on this board. If you truly love a band as much as you do, you stick with them through the "rough times", and in a couple months the buzz will die down, the fairweather friends will have vanished, and you'll have "your" band back.

And for the love of Satan, "scenes" contain some of the most closed-minded horrible people in the universe, and people need to stop referring to them as though they actually mean something.

[Jason Tate]

i might murder lifetime then kill myself if this is true. fuck that.
I'll hand you the razor.

[Jason Tate]

Another glaring example of why spreading gossip is a bad idea. I'm sure I come off as somewhat cynical of this website and some of its staff, but the spreading of information that has yet to be officially verified will just continue to get people's pants pissy when they potentionally have no reason to be, and it's the one true problem I have with AP. That is another debate, though.

THAT BEING SAID...
- I would love to hear another Lifetime album.
- FBR is actually quite the appropriate label for it to be released on... as it's been stated, so many bands associated with FBR have been influenced by Lifetime, it would make complete sense to bring that flagship band around to show everybody what the real deal is. I am not the biggest Pete Wentz fan at all, but with all of the love he has spoken for Lifetime as well as all of the love that he knows so many others have for the band, he would have to be the stupidest motherfucker in the world to try to get a hand into their writing/music at all. I trust he is smart enough to realize this.
- If you are assuming that somebody is not going to genuinely enjoy a band and their music/message solely because of who they are associated with, then you're a tool. Of course plenty of people are going to listen to it because of the label or who is promoting them or whatever, and after three months they won't give a fuck anymore. However, there will be plenty of people who buy the album and will love it so much that they'll want to explore the back catalog and basically become obsessed with the band. I can't tell you HOW many times that has happened to me ever since Erick Lewis lent me an album in 1998 by some band called Pennywise, and I'm sure that there are plenty of more stories similar to that from so many people on this board. If you truly love a band as much as you do, you stick with them through the "rough times", and in a couple months the buzz will die down, the fairweather friends will have vanished, and you'll have "your" band back.
And if people continue to get their pants in a wad over something labeled, "gossip" - they can go sit on a garden hoe for call I care. Their own fault ...

[Big_Guy]

Panic! at the Disco, FOB, Academy Is, and Lifetime tour would make elitists heads EXPLODE.
why?

I don't get it.......................because Lifetime shits all over those other bands?

[uglystar03]

there will always be kids listening to music for all the wrong reasons. its something you can't really control. I hate to see all these "scene kids" that go to shows just to show off their fashion and to be seen. I hate it when people name drop to seem cool when in fact they aren't in the least bit even knowledgeable, and are reading the names of bands from a list and know nothing about the band.

but on the other hand, there will always be kinds that are very sincere and honestly curious. If this was true, I am sure it would help some kid out there discover the roots of the music he/she loves. and that is what needs to be focused on. In a few years, hopefully all the trendy kids will either become sincere or grow up and move on to a new trend. What is important is is passionate kids that have their lives changed by this music.

[Riki]

A half unrelated question... The lifetime reuinion shows, were they releasted on a mastered form, or just boot legs?

Also I may be wrong but did Kid Dynamite Reform for a similar reunion stint, if so is that released on CD or boot leg only?

I know i could amazon these bad boys and find the answer that way, but its so much for fun to talk among you working class mofos...

[born to expire]

you all forget where pete grew up in. he grew up on lifetime just like all of you. he grew up on the hardcore scene just like all of you. he's giving lifetime a chance to do something that they deserve and that is to finally go big. not TRL big, but big enough to show people what this "scene" used to be. i have never seen lifetime in my Tower Records that's for sure and it makes me sick. With FBR exploding who says that they'll even have to be paired up with P!TAD and all that noise. it's lifetime for fucks sake. let them open these kid's ears like they did for you years ago. the majority of you whine about how mainstream music is shit and how we'll never have music like it was in the 60s and 70s like grunge in the 90s, well here's a band who can shake things up and you're denying them that.

you're the reason why the scene gets made fun of.

open up.

The fact of the matter is that no one wants Lifetime to get big. Don't you get it?

I wish they just stuck to the reunion shows.

[Ruggiero2oo8]

whoa.

[born to expire]

There's a part of me that wants every My Chemical Romance fan to know who Alkaline Trio is. With things such as this, I see it as more of an oppurtunity for kids to appreciate the roots of the bands they love now. To me that doesn't seem like such a negative thing, let alone the end of the world (or "scene").

Interesting.

There's a part of me that wants every My Chemical Romance fan to know who The Misfits are.

It's a negative thing, because bands like Lifetime are meant to be discovered and then loved, not spoon fed to the masses. One of the most enjoyable parts about music in general is finding out about bands on your own or having your friends tell you about them and then being able to realize how amazing they are.

[cjprocknroll]

If you are excited about this piece of gossip, then you were probably not around when Lifetime was still playing shows. I think this is a terrible idea and will potentially ruin the bands cult following.

[The Revisionist]

^ and if everybody genuinely enjoys the new Lifetime music, why is their cult destruction a bad thing?

[topsecret]

And if people continue to get their pants in a wad over something labeled, "gossip" - they can go sit on a garden hoe for call I care. Their own fault ...

Yeah, but that makes your web site look like a joke. Why even post something labeled "gossip"? It's obviously to create hype/tension/hits/etc.

[cjprocknroll]

^ and if everybody genuinely enjoys the new Lifetime music, why is their cult destruction a bad thing?

"everybody" won't enjoy it. More often than not, bands go down hill when they have a reunion after a long hiatus.

[Manervous]

The fact of the matter is that no one wants Lifetime to get big. Don't you get it?

I wish they just stuck to the reunion shows.

The fact of the matter is, Lifetime won't get big. Stop being naive. They're hardcore vets with doctorates and children and they're in their thrities. Lifetime won't be sweeping TRL by strom or top requested on Radio Disney. Pete probably offered them total artistic freedom for the most money and rightfully so. He's a huge fan. Furthermore, everyone's acting like they're this poor little child being tossed between selfish parents, but they're not. They're Lifetime: Smart, confident, awesome Lifetime. They're going to do exactly what they want and you'll have to deal with it. Stop being an asshole. They'll still be the same band they always were.

[ebullientsoul]

Please, dear lord, let this be a silly internet rumor with no truth at all to it.

[fuller]

The fact of the matter is that no one wants Lifetime to get big. Don't you get it?

I wish they just stuck to the reunion shows.

to try to hold back a band who has done so much for this genre because you don't want them to bridge gaps is ridiculous.

[abusedcat]

exactly.

i'm all about kids recognizing the roots from which their music originated from, but lifetime signing to fueled by ramen is absolutely not the way to do it. kids that really are interested will look into it themselves rather than waiting for pete wentz to endorse it. it shouldn't be that easy.

maybe i have a different outlook, because that's the way i was when i started listening to the music i listen to now. when i first heard that "can't slow down" was a lifetime rip-off record in 1999, i immediately purchased "jersey's best dancers" because i was legitimately curious and passionate to know who inspired my favorite band so heavily. now that i'm older, i realize that most kids that are new to this music don't take that route. as much as i'd love to believe that they do - it just doesn't happen that way. people don't appreciate music the way that they used to.

98% of typical fall out boy fans surely don't recognize how similar pete wentz's writing style is to that of wes eisold of american nightmare/give up the ghost. some of his lyrics are exactly the same, and their styles are sometimes scarily similar. i'm sure that when fall out boy played under "saved latin," no one knew or cared that there's an american nightmare song under the name "i saved latin" - but they all knew it was from "rushmore," because i read about it all of the time online. kids are too willing to swallow what they're fed instead of trying to find something that they can make their own.

similarly, when i saw the fire theft open for saves the day, i was completely in awe to just be in the presence of jeremy enigk. i watched in amazement while kids made fun of them and threw stuff during their set. i just wanted to scream, "if you knew the impact this man had on the music you listen to, you wouldn't be saying that." the fact is - they wouldn't care, and it breaks my heart.

don't get me wrong...i love fall out boy, and i like a lot of bands associated with them. i have a lot of respect for pete as a musician and as a person, and i think it's awesome that someone who is as true as he seems to be is doing so well. i don't know him, but i can tell in interviews that he actually knows and cares about music and people. i just don't appreciate the people that worship him simply because he's him, and will believe and do anything so long as it comes from his lips (or fingertips).

and after all of that mumbo jumbo...i really think lifetime has more integrity than to make a deal like this. seeing them was definitely one of the most amazing experiences of my life, and i know that they are genuine people that probably wouldn't sacrifice anything for material gain. at least i hope so.

(sorry that was ridiculously long, but it's something i feel very passionately about)EXACTLY!!! i knew about AN/GUTG before I'd heard Fall Out Boy b/c my friends old band (the Nerve Agents) had played w/ them a few times. I posted on the falloutboylove livejournal community that pete got it from AN/GUTG, and they were like "NO!". w/e. People also think Pete was the first person to have written insanely long titles. But, I am a huge FOB fan still, and, to comment on Lifetime, I also found them though Saves The Day, and, personally, I don't think that Lifetime could be marketable to most mainstream society. When the mainstream moves somewhere, the punk hardcore culture moves away. That's what I've noticed, at least.

[The Revisionist]

"everybody" won't enjoy it. More often than not, bands go down hill when they have a reunion after a long hiatus.Speculation.

[cjprocknroll]

Speculation.

name one band who made a successful (don't say Weezer or The Cure because those were hardly successful) comeback. You can say it is speculation, but it is a truth in music that this happens often. Lifetime may gain some new fans, but the old ones will be turned off. The loss will be larger than the gain in the long run.

[space unicorn]

dear worldsattack and chokeychicken, join the purevolume forums where this bullshit doesn't exist.

[space unicorn]

also, lifetime just put out a whole collection of songs and b-sides through jade tree...i don't think they'll be hanging with pete weenz.

[Jim Morgan]

and for the record, is any type of fall out boy/academy is/panic!/lifetime tour ever took place, i will stop listening to music. not because i'm an elitist, but because it will mean that this scene is doomed, and every last ounce of hope is lost.

no way, kids can actually listen to a credible band that paved way for the likes of those bands.

think of it as an education

[yourbodylaycold]

it is mandatory that all dan yemin bands put out records on jade tree only

[space unicorn]

seriously, jade tree is a great label, i don't think lifetime would go and piss on their shoes.

[InaGreendase]

I'll believe it when its official. After watching the Kid Dynamite DVD and seeing how close Dan is to Deep Elm, plus he's on their label for Paint It Black, I'd just find it hard to believe.

Jade Tree* :)

This music is trendy, it is .. fuck, I am trying to make a living off this trend. But if only ONE person who trys to be trendy has their life changed by what they find - WHO THE FUCK CARES! That's my whole deal. Not everyone finds music the same way you did. Hell, I fell into this "scene" because a friend left his CD booklet over at my house. How people find music doesn't matter all that much to me (and it shouldn't to you) - what should matter is that people DO find it. Regardless of their motives (trendy or pure), the music still means something and can still find a way to change even the trendiest of hearts.

This "it's my music and you can't listen unless I deem you worthy" attitude has got to stop. It reminds me of the South Park with George Lucas running around going, "but they're my movies.." and it's absolutely absurd.

Jason, I think you missed the point. Chokey is trying to convey the notion that people will claim to listen to a band they don't actually listen to and/or enjoy.

he grew up on the hardcore scene just like all of you.

I really don't think many of absolutepunk.net's forum users grew up in the hardcore scene. I know I didn't get into any form of it until I was 17 and in college.

punknews.org just shit itself

Yes, yes we did.

[Spiffysthebest]

whoa that's...the weirdest news I've heard all day. We'll see if it's true though...

[Schmitty]

I am just siked about getting to listen to another album and see how the bad has progressed. These are smart talented guys that understand music and business. They still play in bands, run record labels, etc along with maintaining independent careers and families.
I would think that they have looked very closely at who would be the best candidate to put out a new record.

they are not 25 years old living in new brunswick. We should be excited to hear how the band has grown and expect and want slightly different sound. If you want to listen to JBD again. Press repeat on you ipod. This is is welcoming news

As for Pete W. Any lifetime fan is ok with me

[Schmitty]

BTW
you know this album is going to kill all the shit thats out there anyway what ever label they sign to

[we are cured]

good god im glad i was late on this. but your scene was dead the moment it hit TV, and did any of you even consider that lifetime (the band not the side projects) has ZERO association with the scene other than the fact that some kids who were 10 when hello bastards was released now worship the ground it was mixed upon?

for those of you that actually like this band for reasons other than it looks cool in your recently played list, be happy that an album MIGHT be made on a label (i.e. funded in a studio) as opposed to somebody's basement.

[UsedSocks]

Panic! at the Disco, FOB, Academy Is, and Lifetime tour would make elitists heads EXPLODE.

im sorry, but a band as incredible as lifetime would not be stupid enough to tour with shitty bands like those listed.