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thejetstolehome
03/21/06, 08:43 PM
any thoughts on this? i find it understandalbe because switching positions is hard. however, refusing to play is simply inexcusable. and, in recent years, we've seen some great players switch positions--ripken, rodriguez. granted those were switches within the infield but i still don't think a switch from 2B to LF is impossible to make--i made that switch. also, soriano played outfield in some spring training games in '01 and did pretty well. just my two cents. what's everyone else think?

wessa
03/21/06, 08:48 PM
any thoughts on this? i find it understandalbe because switching positions is hard. however, refusing to play is simply inexcusable. and, in recent years, we've seen some great players switch positions--ripken, rodriguez. granted those were switches within the infield but i still don't think a switch from 2B to LF is impossible to make--i made that switch. also, soriano played outfield in some spring training games in '01 and did pretty well. just my two cents. what's everyone else think?

he is a little bitch. My friend heard that his reason was all about money and that although he is paid highest for second baseman, he is not as high when compared with the top outfielders. I think that sports are starting to suck because players have too much power. If a player refuses to play, their salary should be taken away. If you think about it, soriano probably made a couple of thousand dollars today for sitting on a bench.
And let me remind everyone of craig biggio. He was originally a catcher. They asked him to move to the field. Moving from catcher to the field is MUCH harder than infield to outfield. Biggio became a fantastic second baseman. Then they asked him to move to the outfield when he was old and had been playing second for years. He did it for the team. Soriano shouldn't even be allowed to play in the same league as biggio.

bigmike
03/21/06, 08:52 PM
they shouldn't have traded for him to begin with. he's not going to hit 36 homers with 104 rbi's in RFK stadium. he'll be lucky to crack 20, i think. he's a little punk. they should trade him now before he has a shitty season (compared to his prior seasons).

thejetstolehome
03/21/06, 08:55 PM
he is a little bitch. My friend heard that his reason was all about money and that although he is paid highest for second baseman, he is not as high when compared with the top outfielders. I think that sports are starting to suck because players have too much power. If a player refuses to play, their salary should be taken away. If you think about it, soriano probably made a couple of thousand dollars today for sitting on a bench.
And let me remind everyone of craig biggio. He was originally a catcher. They asked him to move to the field. Moving from catcher to the field is MUCH harder than infield to outfield. Biggio became a fantastic second baseman. Then they asked him to move to the outfield when he was old and had been playing second for years. He did it for the team. Soriano shouldn't even be allowed to play in the same league as biggio.

well, frank robinson (badass), might put him on the DQ list so he'd be done for the year--i think that means his salary as well. he should just swallow his pride and move to left field. it's not that hard.

Drew Beringer
03/21/06, 08:55 PM
I think I read that the Nationals might put him on the disqualified list or some shit if he doesn't play. That will he won't be paid. I say fuck this dude, at least you've been blessed to play a fuckin sport and make millions off of it. 100% of America would love to trade spots with you.

thejetstolehome
03/21/06, 08:58 PM
I think I read that the Nationals might put him on the disqualified list or some shit if he doesn't play. That will he won't be paid. I say fuck this dude, at least you've been blessed to play a fuckin sport and make millions off of it. 100% of America would love to trade spots with you.

i would give my left testicle to be a major league baseball player with his level of talent.

bigmike
03/21/06, 08:59 PM
I think I read that the Nationals might put him on the disqualified list or some shit if he doesn't play. That will he won't be paid. I say fuck this dude, at least you've been blessed to play a fuckin sport and make millions off of it. 100% of America would love to trade spots with you.
not to mention 100% of the country he's from.

mikeford
03/21/06, 10:22 PM
he wasnt consulted about switching positions when he was traded, so this is the nationals fault... not his.

Drew Beringer
03/21/06, 10:26 PM
he wasnt consulted about switching positions when he was traded, so this is the nationals fault... not his.

He still shouldn't be a pussy about it. he is getting played millions to play fuckin baseball. suck it up and play the damn position. People like him are ruining the game.

radiofriendly
03/21/06, 10:28 PM
he wouldn't play any other position for the rangers or the Yankees. that was public information. i don't know why Robinson would think that HE was the godsend that was going to get through to Soriano. he deserves some of the blame.

but Soriano is a little bitch. heaven forbid he do anything to help the team. even ARod was willing to go where he would benefit the team the most. not to mention Soriano has this best friend of his called the error. he should at least play, and if he sucks then i doubt they keep him there. they make it work, and if he's good, all the better. don't even take the blame off of Soriano on this one.

weezer182
03/21/06, 10:45 PM
I think its completely stupid. You do what your manager tells you to do. Other athletes have pulled stunts similar to this such as Manny Ramirez and Steve Francis. It's unacceptable.

Spicoli hey bud
03/21/06, 10:56 PM
he'll suck it up and play

Drew Beringer
03/21/06, 11:01 PM
he'll suck it up and play

Especially if Robinson follows through with the DQ.

xearlynovemberx
03/21/06, 11:18 PM
and the mets should trade for him

lanolynn
03/21/06, 11:20 PM
he's shit at second base and he would probably be shit in the outfiled, he needs to be in the al where he could dh.

Doug
03/21/06, 11:44 PM
I think its completely stupid. You do what your manager tells you to do. Other athletes have pulled stunts similar to this such as Manny Ramirez and Steve Francis. It's unacceptable.

what did manny do similar to this?

weezer182
03/22/06, 12:25 AM
what did manny do similar to this?he refused to play because he thought he had the day off

mikeford
03/22/06, 12:36 AM
he was given the day off

weezer182
03/22/06, 12:40 AM
he was given the day offIt doesn't matter if a coach tells you to play you play. It's not like he was hurt or anything. As far as Soriano, he was asked to play left field and thats what he should have done.

mikeford
03/22/06, 12:54 AM
no, he was TOLD to play left field and was not consulted about playing left field when the nationals acquired him. they just assumed he'd play left field.

they are called managers in baseball, by the way.

weezer182
03/22/06, 01:05 AM
no, he was TOLD to play left field and was not consulted about playing left field when the nationals acquired him. they just assumed he'd play left field.

they are called managers in baseball, by the way.It doesn't matter if he wasn't consulted about playing left field. If he is told to play a position he should play it. If not he shouldn't get paid. It is that simple.

I know they are called managers in baseball. I used coaches because I was also talking about players outside of baseball as well, for example Steve Francis.

Doug
03/22/06, 01:08 AM
players shouldn't blindly follow their managers and coaches. alfonso soriano is a 2nd baseman and obviously isn't comfortable playing the outfield. he should have been consulted before being signed as a left fielder. manny having a scheduled day off is also a lot different than refusing to play a position.

weezer182
03/22/06, 01:14 AM
players shouldn't blindly follow their managers and coaches. alfonso soriano is a 2nd baseman and obviously isn't comfortable playing the outfield. he should have been consulted before being signed as a left fielder. manny having a scheduled day off is also a lot different than refusing to play a position. With the amount of money they make the should do anything the manager or coaches tell them to do, even if they arent told about it ahead of time. They are athletes their job is to listen to their coaches. What is the point of having coaches or managers out there if the players won't even listen to them? The Manny situation is similar. They both refused to play. Thats how they are similar. The same thing can be said about Steve Francis

Doug
03/22/06, 01:17 AM
With the amount of money they make the should do anything the manager or coaches tell them to do, even if they arent told about it ahead of time. They are athletes their job is to listen to their coaches. What is the point of having coaches or managers out there if the players won't even listen to them? The Manny situation is similar. They both refused to play. Thats how they are similar.

so if you're working at mcdonalds, and you run the cashier, and all of a sudden your manager tells you to work at the grill, even though you've only ever tried that once and you got burned doing it. you are going to willingly go along with it because you're making money for it?

weezer182
03/22/06, 01:22 AM
so if you're working at mcdonalds, and you run the cashier, and all of a sudden your manager tells you to work at the grill, even though you've only ever tried that once and you got burned doing it. you are going to willingly go along with it because you're making money for it?what does being injuried while working at mcdonalds have anything to do this argument?

BlackSheepBoy
03/22/06, 01:33 AM
He's a pussy. Professional baseball players should just play where they're needed. He's always been an awkward fit for second base. He swings a good bat and he should be thankful that he could find a position where he is going to hurt his team less defensively while still helping them offensively.

NetNerdsRevenge
03/22/06, 01:33 AM
They are athletes their job is to listen to their coaches.
no, their job is to entertain in competition.

weezer182
03/22/06, 01:35 AM
no, their job is to entertain in competition.Then what do the coaches/ managers get paid for?

djUbilla
03/22/06, 01:36 AM
so if you're working at mcdonalds, and you run the cashier, and all of a sudden your manager tells you to work at the grill, even though you've only ever tried that once and you got burned doing it. you are going to willingly go along with it because you're making money for it?Please come up with a better analogy.

Alfonso Soriano should move to left field and suck it up. He should understand that the move would help his team, and that is all he should care about.

mikeford
03/22/06, 01:42 AM
unless he had a no trade clause and agreed to go to the nationals, i feel like he doesnt have to feel like he needs to help his team.

Doug
03/22/06, 01:57 AM
Please come up with a better analogy.

Alfonso Soriano should move to left field and suck it up. He should understand that the move would help his team, and that is all he should care about.

i'm sorry, there is no better analogy

radiofriendly
03/22/06, 06:24 AM
he's not a good enough 2nd baseman or a good enough all around ballplayer, too be an arrogant prick. they pay you money to play ball. you don't run the team, your manager does. he tells you where to play, when to bat, where to pitch.

histrionics22
03/22/06, 07:53 AM
so if you're working at mcdonalds, and you run the cashier, and all of a sudden your manager tells you to work at the grill, even though you've only ever tried that once and you got burned doing it. you are going to willingly go along with it because you're making money for it?

I'd do whatever the fuck the manager wants for $15 million.

mikeford
03/22/06, 09:51 AM
soriano has made it pretty clear in his tenure with the yankees and rangers that hes not playing outfield ever... what the hell made Bowden think he'd up and change his mind for the Nationals?

their fault.

fromwithin
03/22/06, 10:11 AM
soriano has made it pretty clear in his tenure with the yankees and rangers that hes not playing outfield ever... what the hell made Bowden think he'd up and change his mind for the Nationals?

their fault.

thank you. what the hell is wrong with most of you saying he should be forced to move there. He politely said before he was traded that he wouldnt move to left field and now he's physically proving his point. he's stated this many times and now the time has come where he's been forced to stand up for himself. move fucking vidro to left field, and let soriano play where he wants. its not like he's asking for 100 million dollars in a contract. you dont want lose a guy like that with his stats.

weezer182
03/22/06, 11:19 AM
thank you. what the hell is wrong with most of you saying he should be forced to move there. If he is getting paid to play for the National's team, he should do what the manager tells him to do. It is that simple.

histrionics22
03/22/06, 12:24 PM
thank you. what the hell is wrong with most of you saying he should be forced to move there. He politely said before he was traded that he wouldnt move to left field and now he's physically proving his point. he's stated this many times and now the time has come where he's been forced to stand up for himself. move fucking vidro to left field, and let soriano play where he wants. its not like he's asking for 100 million dollars in a contract. you dont want lose a guy like that with his stats.

Yeah those errors at 2nd really help the team.

Scott Weber
03/22/06, 12:27 PM
sorianio really just needs to shut the fuck up and play baseball.

NetNerdsRevenge
03/22/06, 12:42 PM
If he is getting paid to play for the National's team, he should do what the manager tells him to do. It is that simple.
he was getting paid to play for the yankees....he was traded to texas and then traded again to washington.

besides, bowden is an idiot. soriano will not hit like he did in texas or even ny. should of used his resources to find a better fit.

NetNerdsRevenge
03/22/06, 12:42 PM
sorianio really just needs to shut the fuck up and play baseball.
I dont agree. I want to see how far this will go. Its kinda interesting.

Scott Weber
03/22/06, 12:45 PM
I dont agree. I want to see how far this will go. Its kinda interesting.
He's on my fantasy team, so I do agree. haha

NetNerdsRevenge
03/22/06, 12:55 PM
He's on my fantasy team, so I do agree. haha
ha, that could be a problem

although, you should just wish they trade him. he will suck in RFK

mikeford
03/22/06, 05:23 PM
well arguments moot now cuz he pussed out and agreed to play LF

NetNerdsRevenge
03/22/06, 07:43 PM
money talks, nationals are still going to suck.