Manute Bol Is The Only Honest Man I Know

[Jared Kaufman]

After a conversation Buddy (Senses Fail (http://www.sensesfail.com)) and I had the other day, he was inspired to write the following.
I want to take this chance to be honest, and not think before I speak. I just feel as though so many people and so many bands are holding back. They are afraid to say what they really feel. They guard their image like filthy politicians not wanting the public to know that they are a backstabbing, blood sucking, perverted closet-monster.

I just hate the way this music scene has changed, especially this whole idea that black eyeliner "really gets the kids going." This is suppose to be about music, not making the style section of Teen People. That is the very sad part; it is no longer about the music for most of these bands. It is a competition to see who can jump onto the coat tails of a dying trend and sell the most records before they are stung by the mascara that is dripping into their eyes.

I just don't understand what people out there see in these bands. Is it the fact that they are just so fucking adorable that they get all the girls' panties tied into knots? It can't be. Can it? I thought they were supposed to be so dark and satanic with their all black outfits as they grace the glossy pages of magazines. I can just see them all now, crowded in front of a mirror backstage, fighting for the right angle to apply their make-up. They are so daring, aren't they? ...Trying to push an envelope that's already been licked, stamped and sent away years ago...

This is just a terrible regurgitation of glam / hair metal. It makes me actually want to throw up in my own hnds. The music, the scene, the lifestyle that I grew up in and want to protect as something sacred, is just a big fucking joke to everybody in it and for everybody that is looking in. It has become a race for each label to find the the most unoriginal band, get them in the studio, make sure they have the right clothes, haircut, "the look" and then stuff them down everybody's throat.

As with everything else, music moves in waves and circles. I just can't wait for the day that it all comes crashing down.

P.S. This is a battle cry for rock 'n roll.

[Paul Tao]

I'm pretty sure I still hold a grudge against Buddy ever since he flipped me off for no apparent reason two years ago.

[Rufio21]

Dude, you are one of those people. haha

[marchfaster]

my respect level just went up a bit for this band.

i like that 'battle cry for rock n' roll' shot at hawthorne heights.

[Everiggs]

Senses Fail does not embody "Rock'N'Roll". Not even close.

[TJ Wells]

I enjoy Senses Fail.

[fromwithin]

they wear eyeliner, do illegal drugs, and have enormous amounts of sex with groupies and he's calling out OTHER people!?

[superplaid]

rock on

[number2alien]

Definitely just gained a lot of respect for this band.

[Mitch]

They alright.

[Jared Kaufman]

they wear eyeliner, do illegal drugs, and have enormous amounts of sex with groupies and he's calling out OTHER people!?
I can't say anything about what they do behind-the-scenes, but I have definitely never seen them in eyeliner.

[writethewrxng]

i have a feeling their new songs are gonna be alot better

[Flags of Dawn]

yep, still a douche.

[fromwithin]

I can't say anything about what they do behind-the-scenes, but I have definitely never seen them in eyeliner.

check pics from bamboozle, they dont cake it on but you can tell they do.

[live4music]

i cant believe this came from BUDDY as if he or senses fail are something special. gimme an f'ing break

[nfggc10]

Whatever you feel about this band, you can't argue that he isn't right here. This scene is getting worse and worse and I personally can't wait for it to fade out of the spotlight and go back to how it was about 4 years ago when it was thriving and the talent pool wasn't so diluted.

[James to Feel]

Nice! It's about time someone that people will at least hear says a word or two regarding how flacid the "scene" is becoming. Trying anything remotely divergent from the norm can hurt artists in this group. It's sad.

[tymsnurmn04]

oh. like those vampire clowns in Aiden

[yutsmcgee]

i can have respect for what he said, and it wasn't like he was calling bands out by name. however, he needs to learn how to fucking sing live, instead of sounding like a dying cat with syphilus. i like senses fail, but their live show is atrocious.

[we are cured]

i dont really see buddy as an eyeliner wearing type, but he should definitely not be talking about unoriginal bands.

[fromwithin]

Whatever you feel about this band, you can't argue that he isn't right here. This scene is getting worse and worse and I personally can't wait for it to fade out of the spotlight and go back to how it was about 4 years ago when it was thriving and the talent pool wasn't so diluted.

They are one of the bands responsible for this downhill trend.

[DroppedUrPocket]

lol

[el_flasho]

he's just as conscious of his image as any of these other bands.

[Jared Kaufman]

They are one of the bands responsible for this downhill trend.
Like the band or not, they've been together basically five years now. It's not like they emerged summer of 2005, caked on make-up, threw some screams into their music with a hint of pop-punk and was shoved down your throat.

[nfggc10]

They are one of the bands responsible for this downhill trend.
wasn't saying they weren't a cause of it. honestly, overall this whole scene has been taken over by negativity and people that have no clue what it's really about which is the music. I mean a person can't talk about how much they love a certain band or cd without people coming in and bashing it. It's just ridiculous.

[a speedo model]

yep, still a douche.

hahahaha

[thehighwaysend]

sorry buddy, but i'm afraid you are exactly the type of unoriginal band you claim to hate. finch came around a good few years before you. nice try.

[JIMMYateEARTH]

This is funny, and I agree with him completely.
I went to one of thier shows, mostly to see saves the day and the early november, and some kid was wearing eyeliner, and I don't mean alittle bit he had it on like he was a super model. I laughed at him and called him out for it. I think I upset the kid, I felt bad casue it made his make up run.

[stay out late]

he barely even mentions the actual music except to say that so many bands out there are unoriginal, but i wouldn't exactly call senses fail original either. it seems like he's only concerned about the image that bands are putting out, but correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the music supposedthe important part here? i dont care if they're some "scene" underground band no one in the mainstream's ever heard of or ridiculously famous and all decked out in eyeliner and emo shields, as long as their music is fun to listen to. i honestly could not care less whether a band was a bunch of douchebags...if i like their music, i'll listen to them

[Flags of Dawn]

this is why everyone should just worry about doing their own thing and not be so goddamn caught up in what everyone else is doing, including buddy, who has more than enough to keep himself busy. the "scene" has become so self concious it's ridiculous.

[TBSowns524]

"P.S. This is a battle cry for Rock N' Roll"


hilarious

[Burnout2888]

lol
You may have the greatest avatar ever.

[TheWordsmith]

they wear eyeliner, do illegal drugs, and have enormous amounts of sex with groupies and he's calling out OTHER people!?

if that's true, he loses all credibility he had gained

[fedhed7]

This band isn't terrible. I don't understand a lot of the hate.

[fedhed7]

You may have the greatest avatar ever.
It's good, but I can name a better one.

[Salomonbz90]

fuck that

[CHRISRIPPEDOUT]

and his shitty screamo band was so original when they came out? All about the music my ass.

[Johnnydcp]

I love the music. I hate the scene.

[whose10743]

senses fail might be the worst, most overrated band ever. i'm so confused as to why they are famous or sell records. who buys this crap?

[Zanarky]

Senses Fail...great band...

but I'd rather see Eyeliner than hear Buddy live. The guy is just terrible.

[JIMMYateEARTH]

It's good, but I can name a better one.

I think yours is WAY better, I have contemplated stealing it and using it as my own.

[nfggc10]

fuck originality disputes.....every band is inspired by other bands at some point, geeeez

[travisev]

i think when this scene goes down, senses fail is going right down along with it.

it is an interesting topic tho...much like when raprock/numetal/whatever went down limp bizkit was the band at the forefront and took all the heat for the whole scene even tho there were 800 equally bad bands...who do you think will ultimately be the limp bizkit of this scene?

team naked pics?

[nfggc10]

senses fail might be the worst, most overrated band ever. i'm so confused as to why they are famous or sell records. who buys this crap?
I'm not a fan of theirs either but it doesn't mean the music is crap. Let others who like them do it for their own reasons. It's people like you who are ruining this music....

[nivek87]

It has become a race for each label to find the the most unoriginal band, get them in the studio, make sure they have the right clothes, haircut, "the look" and then stuff them down everybody's throat.


obviously not for dtr, well getting them into the studio and putting them out there part.

but i agree with buddy, through begin to end

[marchfaster]

Like the band or not, they've been together basically five years now. It's not like they emerged summer of 2005, caked on make-up, threw some screams into their music with a hint of pop-punk and was shoved down your throat.
but while the new bands that do that suck worse....its older bands like this one that started it and still are responsible for the downhill scene

[[Mike]]

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

[Crimson_Curse]

"I thought they were supposed to be so dark and satanic with their all black outfits as they grace the glossy pages of magazines. I can just see them all now, crowded in front of a mirror backstage, fighting for the right angle to apply their make-up. They are so daring, aren't they? ...Trying to push an envelope that's already been licked, stamped and sent away years ago..."

avenged sevenfold what?

[DroppedUrPocket]

You may have the greatest avatar ever.
Thank you. I had a very good one yesterday but everyone was like OMG YR GON GIT BANT!!!

My last one was pretty good, as well, I think. (attached)

[Scuba Chris]

Punk and Rock were always a way of rebelling, a way of getting away from the rigors of normal life. Music was the canvas that people used to express their emotions in an honest and brutal way.... Today the "scene" is where kids can join the group of "rebels" and feel different while being exactly the same.

point being, I understand Buddy's digust. And unlike most other people I never had a bad experience with the guys from SF, they were always cool to me.

[PaintTheTarget]

well, at least he took a shot at HH....more of a battlecry than beating out Ne-Yo

[get high]

rock and roll has been dead since 1979. this guy's band blows but he's right, punk rock really is seeming like hair metal part deux. punk rock today is what the boy band was 5 years ago. theres such little quality in this genre and i havent heard a really good album come out of it in three years with deja. it's a fucking fad. this "scene" that you people have is so lame it makes me sick. make up and girls pants. its so laughable to anyone who is not "punk rock." im so tired of the vast majority of music that comes from your genre because it all sounds exactly the same. all of it.

[TheLifeMelodic]

It's easy to ignore the scene.
If a band plays what I think to be a good song I could careless who's at the show or what the band's wearing. What's the point in bitching? Is being in a band as a career not enough for Buddy?

[marchfaster]

it seems like this generic poppunk/screamo whatever thing will never end....its disheartening.

[Flags of Dawn]

rock and roll has been dead since 1979.

says the hippie.

[RememberFminus]

cry me a fucking river. everyone here pretty much already knows this. this bring nothing new to the table.


and for the record. there is nothing wrong withe eyeliner. AFI wears eyeliner and they pretty much have owned everyone for the last 10 years. stop talking so much about fashion when they look like every other tight jean wearing douches

[rorytws]

crikey reading some of the posts in this thread makes me wonder why some people visit this site at all.xxx

[JeffyB]

wow...you tell it like it is buddy

[Jared Kaufman]

cry me a fucking river. everyone here pretty much already knows this. this bring nothing new to the table.


and for the record. there is nothing wrong withe eyeliner. AFI wears eyeliner and they pretty much have owned everyone for the last 10 years
Just curious: Where in VA do you reside?

[marchfaster]

It's easy to ignore the scene.
If a band plays what I think to be a good song I could careless who's at the show or what the band's wearing. What's the point in bitching? Is being in a band as a career not enough for Buddy?
i would rather have a band that cared about the music, and not had to get together a little gimmicky look.
like...green day for thier new album? suits and ties, anti-flag? same thing...

when my chemical romance got big they stopped just wearing the black and eye liner, and started getting thier little outfits (bullet proof vests etc) i saw gerard with his vest on and had flashbacks to those kickass body armor suits the backstreet boys wore in '95.

[dan.is.empire]

senses fail kind of embodies this style...

i think they're gonna change a lot with this new cd though. so this does kinda make sense. i like what he's saying though.

[mikearduini9]

fuck that

no, fuck you... im gonna beat your ass :D

tomorrow

[marchfaster]

check it, cause buddy doesn't look like these kids:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2866182783213645581&q=emo+hair

[shagelific]

that would have been very cool coming from a musician i respected even a little bit.

[mrzippo3]

they wear eyeliner, do illegal drugs, and have enormous amounts of sex with groupies and he's calling out OTHER people!?

drugs and sex have always been a big part of rock n' roll, c'mon.... but the make up needs to stop

[shes.a.ghost]

I agree with what Buddy is saying for the most part, but it just looks pretty rediculous coming from him. He should have kept it to himself, or away from the fans... To me he just looks jealous. He his mad because bands that wear all black, tight clothes with make-up on are more successful than his band.

[CHRISRIPPEDOUT]

I would just like to state that no one in underoath wears makeup

[RememberFminus]

Just curious: Where in VA do you reside?

someone wants to fight me.

Fairfax, but college at va tech

[Jared Kaufman]

I agree with what Buddy is saying for the most part, but it just looks pretty rediculous coming from him. He should have kept it to himself, or away from the fans... To me he just looks jealous. He his mad because bands that wear all black, tight clothes with make-up on are more successful than his band.
Even though Senses Fail aren't all over MTV / radio, I think it's safe to say they're pretty popular.

Oh yeah, (cue the grammar nazi -- dun do dun do dun) R.I.D.I.C.U.L.O.U.S.!

[dekdog11]

lmao i love the title of this post

[Jared Kaufman]

someone wants to fight me.

Fairfax, but college at va tech
Haha. Not at all. Just curious. I'm like 20 minutes or so from FFX; so, I was just wondering.

[marchfaster]

I would just like to state that no one in underoath wears makeup
whats the best album of the year?

[ohsweetirony]

i can't wait for the wave of ska punk to come back.

[Downtown37]

I don't think Buddy "submitted" this as news. He is allowed to have is own opinion. Quoting somebody from a conversation as a "news" post and someone "releasing a statement" are two different things.

So much drama. Who cares what bands think of other bands? Everyone is so quick to give their own opinion these days-- what makes these band members any different?

Angry words = publicity for a few days.

[fromwithin]

Like the band or not, they've been together basically five years now. It's not like they emerged summer of 2005, caked on make-up, threw some screams into their music with a hint of pop-punk and was shoved down your throat.
so just because theyve been together for five years that makes them credible. I dont give a shit theyre just as bad as the new garbage that comes out now and theyve been responsible for bands like aiden and other crap getting signed just as much as hawthorne heights and mcr. he's got a fucking image himself now that I think about it, the last time I saw them, with saves the day, he came out in a bane hoodie with his head shaved and tattooed arms trying to be some kind of hardass. so he's a hypocrite I dont care what he defends as "rock n roll" cause he's the opposite of whatever it is.

[Jared Kaufman]

I don't think Buddy "submitted" this as news. He is allowed to have is own opinion. Quoting somebody from a conversation as a "news" post and someone "releasing a statement" are two different things.

So much drama. Who cares what bands think of other bands? Everyone is so quick to give their own opinion these days-- what makes these band members any different?

Angry words = publicity for a few days.
Um, we had the conversation, then he went a made a journal entry about it -- that's what this is (he IMed me, linked me to their site, showed me his journal, etc.). So, I think this is more of a "statement" (btw, I never used that word) and it certainly is not me just posting our conversation. Have you ever read a conversation in any form resembling that?

[CHRISRIPPEDOUT]

whats the best album of the year?
june 20th - underoath

[thegamethelight]

Senses Fail does not embody "Rock'N'Roll". Not even close.

i agree with what he is saying. if senses fail releases another record, i'm expecting rock and roll, or else this statement came right out of his ass.

[iLIKENOISE]

lol. agreed.
i cant believe this came from BUDDY as if he or senses fail are something special. gimme an f'ing break

[CHRISRIPPEDOUT]

whats the best album of the year?
unless hit the lights is as amazing as I expect

[Jared Kaufman]

so just because theyve been together for five years that makes them credible. I dont give a shit theyre just as bad as the new shit that comes out now and theyve been responsible for bands like aiden and other crap getting signed. he's got a fucking image himself now that I think about it, the last time I saw them, with saves the day, he came out in a bane hoodie with his head shaved and tattooed arms trying to be some kind of hardass. so he's a hypocrite I dont care what he defends as "rock n roll" cause he's the opposite of whatever it is.
Haha. What do you suggest he wears? If he had the "emo haircut," then he's to blame; now he's getting crap for a SHAVED head and wearing a hoodie of a pretty damn good hardcore band. There's no winning.

[DroppedUrPocket]

I don't think Buddy "submitted" this as news. He is allowed to have is own opinion. Quoting somebody from a conversation as a "news" post and someone "releasing a statement" are two different things.

Dude, shut up. Do you really think Jared, or any staff member for that matter, would just post that on here without checking if it was okay with the person who said it first? Use your brain.

[Velfare4]

Stop bitching about the scene already. Yes, it will die out, and yes it will come back in around 15 years or so. It's a neverending cycle. Don't worry about it and enjoy the music. There will always be good bands that put music before their image.

[ohsweetirony]

i can't wait for the punk ska wave to come back

[Jared Kaufman]

i agree with what he is saying. if senses fail releases another record, i'm expecting rock and roll, or else this statement came right out of his ass.
I bet their new record will somewhat sound similar to Far and Hum ...

[underthetalking]

I hope the next album is more like From The Depths of Dreams and as far away from Let It Enfold You as it possibly can.

I was a fan of Senses Fail, then I kind of grew out of it after seeing them live. Buddy just can't sing for shit.

[YellowNovember]

Haha. Not at all. Just curious. I'm like 20 minutes or so from FFX; so, I was just wondering.

Virginia Beach is where its at, though

[RememberFminus]

there is no point to this argument, everyone knows hes right. just because he comes from a shitty band doesnt make him any less right.

[HiddenInNJ]

alright now i have lost faith in senses fail over the years as I thought they were becoming one of these bands... but i guess it is Buddy being the bigger man admitting things are going wrong(even though most of us saw that already)... respect has gone up for him a bit hope the new cd is good... love the rock n roll shot at HH

[Jared Kaufman]

Dude, shut up. Do you really think Jared, or any staff member for that matter, would just post that on here without checking if it was okay with the person who said it first? Use your brain.
There was always a reason I loved you.

[fromwithin]

Haha. What do you suggest he wears? If he had the "emo haircut," then he's to blame; now he's getting crap for a SHAVED head and wearing a hoodie of a pretty damn good hardcore band. There's no winning.

he shouldnt be displaying an image he should be himself. he was pacing back and forth on the stage like he was some kind of hardass like he was actually in bane. I'm not taking anything away from bane I know theyre amazing, but the fact the real tragedy is the fact that senses fail headlined over saves the day on some dates of that tour and they dont deserve that shit one bit.

[redeyes]

they wear eyeliner, do illegal drugs, and have enormous amounts of sex with groupies and he's calling out OTHER people!?
-i don't remember him saying anything about drugs or sex, ease up straight edger.

But let's not forget that "It is a competition to see who can jump onto the coat tails of a dying trend and sell the most records before they are stung by the mascara that is dripping into their eyes." describes senses fail pretty well. screamo isn't exactly a justifiable genre. shitty guitar parts that aren't tech enough to be heavy, and aren't good enough to be catchy. So they cover them under singing/screaming cause thats the thign to do from 2001-2004. and make some pointlessly violent lyrics.

EX: "I had a dream last night and in my dream I robbed a country club.
A 5 year old tried to stop me, but I shot him through the head, and now he's dead."

why hasn't he saved this scene singlehandledly yet with genius lines like that?

[fromwithin]

I bet their new record will somewhat sound similar to Far and Hum ...


hahhaahahhaha thats a good one. not a chance of that happening.

[DroppedUrPocket]

There was always a reason I loved you.
Haha. SoaP is the #1 reason, I think.

[Mitch]

Sadly, I don't even know what the "scene" was like before I joined here in October of 2004.

[underthetalking]

unless hit the lights is as amazing as I expect

I don't really see the big deal with Hit the Lights. Yeah, they're good but they're not amazing. Just another pop punk band. Nothing special.



At least they're good live.

[AniteToRemember]

I think it was good he stepped up and said something. I really do enjoy this band and what they've done. Ever since I saw them on the first Drive Thru DVD i have been a fan. I can't wait to hear thier new stuff.

[CrucifiedHeart]

I'm pretty sure I still hold a grudge against Buddy ever since he flipped me off for no apparent reason two years ago.

for real? do you two like know each other at all?


*************************
i agree with buddy, even though im not really a senses fail fan. but i can look past that and just agree objectively.

on the other hand, id def rather listen to the mall punk /emo bands than the chugga chugga nu-metal bands....which just died out pretty much and got replaced by the mall punk/emo bands.

i guess what im saying is, what does he mean exactly by a battle cry for rock n roll?
Like, get better music on the radio?
Stop their scene from parodying itself?

[fromwithin]

-i don't remember him saying anything about drugs or sex, ease up straight edger.

But let's not forget that "It is a competition to see who can jump onto the coat tails of a dying trend and sell the most records before they are stung by the mascara that is dripping into their eyes." describes senses fail pretty well. screamo isn't exactly a justifiable genre. shitty guitar parts that aren't tech enough to be heavy, and aren't good enough to be catchy. So they cover them under singing/screaming cause thats the thign to do from 2001-2004. and make some pointlessly violent lyrics.

EX: "I had a dream last night and in my dream I robbed a country club.
A 5 year old tried to stop me, but I shot him through the head, and now he's dead."

why hasn't he saved this scene singlehandledly yet with genius lines like that?

i'm not calling him out for not being edge, i could care less. he's an asshole as a person that was my point.

[Jared Kaufman]

hahhaahahhaha thats a good one. not a chance of that happening.
I didn't say "as good as" or "exactly like"; I think the influence will be there (is what I meant).

[Jared Kaufman]

Haha. SoaP is the #1 reason, I think.
Indeed.

[fromwithin]

I didn't say "as good as" or "exactly like"; I think the influence will be there (is what I meant).

then he has to get voice lessons first.

[Jared Kaufman]

then he has to get voice lessons first.
...and I was refering to musically. Haha.

[dukeboy1986]

Yeah, this is hilarious, he needs to go listen to Say Anything and then look at his own band. Huge gatherings of the Hot Topic crowd for this band like all the time.

[fromwithin]

...and I was refering to musically. Haha.

yeah i forgot to mention that as well. last time i saw them they were leaning towards an attempt at metal, with the solos they pulled. i dont see them being anywhere near influenced by far or hum. I see a horrible attempt at trying to sound like everytime i die.

[nateisawesome]

still probably the worst band out there right now

[thegamethelight]

so just because theyve been together for five years that makes them credible. I dont give a shit theyre just as bad as the new garbage that comes out now and theyve been responsible for bands like aiden and other crap getting signed just as much as hawthorne heights and mcr. he's got a fucking image himself now that I think about it, the last time I saw them, with saves the day, he came out in a bane hoodie with his head shaved and tattooed arms trying to be some kind of hardass. so he's a hypocrite I dont care what he defends as "rock n roll" cause he's the opposite of whatever it is.

you actually went to see a senses fail concert?

[fromwithin]

you actually went to see a senses fail concert?

no dumbass, i had to sit through them for saves the day.

[AmandaLynn]

heh.

[AnotherTale...]

After a conversation Buddy (Senses Fail (http://www.sensesfail.com)) and I had the other day, he was inspired to write the following.

P.S. This is a battle cry for rock 'n roll.

hahahaha that's a great line.

[Pass The Flask]

worst live band ever.

[underthetalking]

worst live band ever.

Have you seen Fall Out Boy?

[imthenewcancer]

so...would bands like from first to last and fall out boy be hated just the same if they didnt have the 'style' they have?

[eversochili]

ok buddy so be about the music and don't wear eyeliner. associate yourself with bands that see things the same way you do. those other bands are doing their own thing and some people dig it, some people don't. bottom line, you don't have to worry about it and if you find yourself associated with it, that's your fault.

[Downtown37]

Jared--

I misread the original newspost. Either way, I am not knocking you or Buddy. I am actually defending Buddy, saying that he can say whatever he wants, he is allowed an opinion just like everyone else.

It just seems to me to be for publicity and to get a rise out of people. This thread is 8 pages long already-- people love this kind of stuff.

It's not like he said anything people hadn't thought about before.

Now it just turns into "Did you hear what Buddy from Senses Fail said?"

Whatever--either way I am reading the thread myself. So I guess I eat it up, too.

[mattINAMORATA]

This guy is such a bitch, he's just crying because Senses Fail is dying harder then bruce willis.


like go hit another line of coke and shut the fuck up

[shtjames]

hey kettle!
you're black!

[thegamethelight]

so...would bands like from first to last and fall out boy be hated just the same if they didnt have the 'style' they have?


probobly not

[fedhed7]

This is the reason I never come into the News forum.

[Jared Kaufman]

This guy is such a bitch, he's just crying because Senses Fail is dying harder then bruce willis.


like go hit another line of coke and shut the fuck up
Hey! Don't talk smack about Bruce Willis; he rules.

[Pass The Flask]

Have you seen Fall Out Boy?

touche.

[underthetalking]

he's just crying because Senses Fail is dying harder then bruce willis.


This = greatest quote ever




People need to stop flipping shit over Senses Fail and Morrissey and the Artic Monkeys.

[woobo]

stop whining and lead by example. obviously this isn't going to happen in the case of senes fail since they are terrible. a lot of kids are listening to emo/punk rock now, some people are calling it a trend and saying its just like boy bands a few years ago. i say look at the brightside, there are some good bands in the genre hopefully they will float to the top and get more listeners, then when the other fade the quality ones are left standing. complaining about how people dress is a waste of time, if a band isn't really about music eventually they should fade out and if they don't they're gonna have a horrible fan base(much like senses fails)

[underthetalking]

Hey! Don't talk smack about Bruce Willis; he rules.

It was a reference to Die Hard, the greatest movie of all time.

[DroppedUrPocket]

This guy is such a bitch, he's just crying because Senses Fail is dying harder then bruce willis.


like go hit another line of coke and shut the fuck up
Hahahahaha

[underthetalking]

None of this shit would happen if Northstar was still around.

[underthetalking]

touche.

Thank you.

[DroppedUrPocket]

None of this shit would happen if Northstar was still around.
The quote in your signature confuses the shit out of me.

[eversochili]

stop whining and lead by example. obviously this isn't going to happen in the case of senes fail since they are terrible. a lot of kids are listening to emo/punk rock now, some people are calling it a trend and saying its just like boy bands a few years ago. i say look at the brightside, there are some good bands in the genre hopefully they will float to the top and get more listeners, then when the other fade the quality ones are left standing. complaining about how people dress is a waste of time, if a band isn't really about music eventually they should fade out and if they don't they're gonna have a horrible fan base(much like senses fails)


amen. i think his rant was completely unnecessary.

[underthetalking]

The quote in your signature confuses the shit out of me.

Me too...

but it perfectly sums up all the shit that spewed out of that kids mouth that day.

[PunkDrums182]

I can't say anything about what they do behind-the-scenes, but I have definitely never seen them in eyeliner.
I second that. They were cool guys when i met them, I'm hoping their new stuff will get me back into them.

[DroppedUrPocket]

Me too...

but it perfectly sums up all the shit that spewed out of that kids mouth that day.
Hahaha. I can only imagine.

[ohsweetirony]

punk ska wave please come back

[abbreviation]

i can't wait for the wave of ska punk to come back.
hahahhahaha

[ArmaniMassacre]

i think the best part about this is that when something really substantial happens or some really good bands go on tour together and it's announced on here, you'll have two kids that are appreciative, one or two that throw in their ignorant rant about how the band sucks.

then you have stupid views of band members who are ranting about everyone that they've toured with, are friends with, and are doing better than them, just to better themselves. fuck senses fail right in there stupid asses, these guys have never put out a piece of music that wasn't a direct rip off of someone else...music comes around full circle and you're the biggest example of it there, bud.

get off your high horse, you're just pissed cuz you haven't been on the cover of AP in a couple months..

[elvis]

i totally agree with him.......unfortunately for him, Senses Fail is one of those shitty bands minus the mascara

[xTJx]

Good band...Haha I remember when buddy forgot the lyrics on national tv..

[zizou1790]

i love this band buddy is such a cool dude to ROCKKK ONN BROTHERRR

[enj0i29]

punk ska wave please come back

punk ska wave please DON'T come back. EVER.

[Buried A Lie]

senses fail might be the worst, most overrated band ever. i'm so confused as to why they are famous or sell records. who buys this crap?


I'm not a fan of theirs either but it doesn't mean the music is crap. Let others who like them do it for their own reasons. It's people like you who are ruining this music....

that's very true. you cant go to a music site like this and have a conversation with people who share similiar music tastes as yourself, because they are flooded with people who think they are elitists about music. they think that they are the only ones out there who matter and that EVERYBODY should listen to the same music as they do. c'mon guys, do you really want everybody to like the same bands as you??? you are the ones who bitch about it when everyone does start to like your music. so all you stupid bitches should just go support the bands you like instead of ripping on the ones you hate.

[eversochili]

punk ska wave please come back


mmmmmmmmmmmmm punk ska wave

[fluke182]

Buddy kicks ass, always really nice to me when I talked to him, and he's hilarious. Even though I didn't particularly like Let it Enfold You, I respect them for what they try to do and what they have to say. This scene has grown increasingly generic and "boy band"ified. They're the next generation of Backstreet Boys really, not Senses Fail, just certain bands.

[fluke182]

[B]



that's very true. you cant go to a music site like this and have a conversation with people who share similiar music tastes as yourself, because they are flooded with people who think they are elitists about music. they think that they are the only ones out there who matter and that EVERYBODY should listen to the same music as they do. c'mon guys, do you really want everybody to like the same bands as you??? you are the ones who bitch about it when everyone does start to like your music. so all you stupid bitches should just go support the bands you like instead of ripping on the ones you hate.
Hurrah for you!
Also, how the hell do some of you listen to so much music? I'm pretty much perpetually listening to music and my Last.fm numbers are no where near yours, you guys are crazy!

[AShannon04]

blah blah blah blah

[radxbandit]

sorry buddy, but i'm afraid you are exactly the type of unoriginal band you claim to hate. finch came around a good few years before you. nice try.
whether or not your comment is true, what buddy said is right.

[PomonaForEmpusa]

i didnt like their last album... but SF gets tons of props for covering Institutionalized on the THAW soundtrack..

plus the new stuff i've heard by them is getting better.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I've been a long time fan of these guys.

Their lyrics AREN'T special. They DO look the same as every other band.

But you know what? I don't care. Whether or not he is a hypocrite or whethere he isn't, I will not discuss.

But god damn, Senses Fail puts on a great live show and I will be first in line to purchase their new record.

[savestheday129]

The first word that I thought of when I read this was "hypocrite". I was pretty much laughing the whole time I was reading this. And no offense (which I'm sure this will turn out offensive) but I find it funny that, I'm gonna say 80% of the people on here, say that they are tired of the "scene" too... yet they are pretty much contributiing to it.

Sorry if I'm the only one who doesn't get it at all.

Anyway, I'm tired of hating this "scene". Listen to music for what it is. Music. Not a style or way of life.

Okay feel free to hit me....

[GoWaitInTheCar]

In regards to my last comment about their new release, I hope they lean more to the harder side. Hopefully a bit more punk. Institutionalized, proved to be they can pull it off..

[GoWaitInTheCar]

The first word that I thought of when I read this was "hypocrite". I was pretty much laughing the whole time I was reading this. And no offense (which I'm sure this will turn out offensive) but I find it funny that, I'm gonna say 80% of the people on here, say that they are tired of the "scene" too... yet they are pretty much contributiing to it.

I know. All the people who "hate" the scene or whatever it is, support the damn thing, and look the same and dress the same.

I never make complaints about how people look, because I probably look the same way in a sense. I have shaggier style hair and wear band hoodies and jeans. So I can't rip on them. They do it for the same reasons I do it. So most of the haters only hate, so they don't rip on themselves.

The only complaints about the "scene" you'll hear from me is, everything sounds the same. I am not an offender of this. Most bands today, don't even get the time of day from me, so a lot of people like to bash my opinions. And for people to realize it's all the same, they gotta get technical and say this screamer sounds different or this band has one more guitar player. It's all the same. Take it or leave it. Most of the time, I leave it.

If anyone wants to be totally original and totally different "emo" isn't your "scene."

[johnarc]

I hate senses fail, but he just said what I've been saying for the past year. bravo.

[domesticyeti]

whether or not you like senses fail or buddy neilsen, this statement is totally accurate.
everyone seems to be going for the same image to get all the hot topic girls to sweat them and all the scene guys to worship them. its annoying as fuck because everyband looks the same.

personally, i enjoy senses fail. i know they're not really all that original, but for some reason i really enjoy their music. and the two times i saw them live, they were really cool. Maybe i just caught them on a good night though.

and the newer stuff does sound like a big departure from Let It Enfold You. And buddy was quoted as saying "the lyrics will be much more mature". so thats good.

[xXHeyLushXx]

Hey wait i thought Buddy was like that too
W/E
even if it is hypocritical he still is right

WELL SAID!!!

[domesticyeti]

and the shot at HH wasa classic.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Hey wait i thought Buddy was like that too
W/E
even if it is hypocritical he still is right

WELL SAID!!!

So basically you are saying, though he's what people complain about, he's right?

Haha. Stick around in this thread, and I'm sure so many people will bash you.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I hate senses fail, but he just said what I've been saying for the past year. bravo.

I am at the opposite side of you.

I like Senses Fail but I don't applaud him because he's a huge hypocrite.

[TomAce]

first of all, all of your maturity is shining, cuz if you were the least part mature, youd all get out of the mindset of stupid bullshit "cliques" cuz thats what this "scene" you speak of is, and realize, at the end of the day, its music. Is it possible to sound like you dress? Didnt think so. So why do any of you give a fuck? Im pretty sure Green Day turned on the makeup and went on to make the best cd of their career, and if you disagree than ill sit back and wait for you to write something better. In life their will be kids that just want to be cool. Not everyone can be as strong and credible as you, but god dammit, sometimes you just gotta suck it up and get over it, and stop basing your life off of what other people are doing. If you spend your time worrying about those bands with makeup or whatever, than your just as bad as the other people trying to fit into that mold. Honestly, I can care less if this "scene" dies out or not, im not here for the scene, fuck the scene, this scene can eat my entire ass, the reason im here is because the person i am, made me most succeptable to punk rock, (real) emo, and hardcore. I read a post from a kid saying "listen to say anything", and i agree for a differant reason, listen to the last song on the full length, theyres a line explaining how this scene has turned from the cool kids that once looked down on kids from the underground, and now the kids from the underground look down on the "jocks" that picked on them with no reguard for the golden rule. The only way we can bring the community...not "scene"...community...back to the good days, is if everyone just shuts it off. But it wont happen for the same reason that capitolism wouldnt work as a government, people are just flawed. Hence, my quitting on trying to do anything about it, and me ending my recidulously long rant.

[avis5340]

Wow buddy is good at describing himself

[The Revisionist]

Manute Bol could write a better album than Senses Fail.

[DroppedUrPocket]

Manute Bol could write a better album than Senses Fail.
Hahaha.

[CheChe1455]

HAHA
his band is the reason the jersey scene went to shit.
what a fuckin hypocrite

[jdawg09]

Good job buddy

[mattman00007]

ahhh buddy is so fresh...

[LulaDivinia]

I pretty sure he doesn't realize he is in fucking SENSES FAIL, and is in no place to call anybody out.

[X__inhope]

This dude needs to shut up and worry about his own band. Why is everyone so concearned about what other people are doing?

[bubonic311]

Step off Buddy's dick, or else he'll kill you in beer pong and write a new "Stephen" just for you.

[Throwback]

Senses Fail >>>>>>>> Hawthorne Heights.

That's all I'll say.

[xearlynovemberx]

i like senses fail they were cool guys when i met them a few years back

[Chemical Love]

I like Senses Fail and continue to support them.

[00spool]

interesting. if he wants to talk shit, why doesn't he name names?

[Seans9]

Hahahahahahahahahaha

[tallehoohoo02]

I just want to know why everyone is bitching about Senses Fail. personally I think they are a good band. But if all you people don't like them, stop bitching about them. just don't listen to them and don't talk about them. because if you don't like them what does it matter what they do.

also even if what Buddy says doesn't apply to him, he still brings up a good point. So even if he isn't what he said it still good that someone said it, cause its true no matter who says it.

[DroppedUrPocket]

I just want to know why everyone is bitching about Senses Fail. personally I think they are a good band. But if all you people don't like them, stop bitching about them. just don't listen to them and don't talk about them. because if you don't like them what does it matter what they do.

also even if what Buddy says doesn't apply to him, he still brings up a good point. So even if he isn't what he said it still good that someone said it, cause its true no matter who says it.
Shut up. If he's gonna suck ass and be a hypocrite about everything, people are going to call him out and talk about it. We were ignoring him until he made himself look like a jackass.

[Midnight Aria]

good lord. . .I can't believe he treid to pull this shit. Senses fail cleared the way for hawthorne heights by convincing people that dry heaving into a microphone can suffice as "screaming." The first time I heard their bassist trying to scream I had to laugh. . .I thought it was a joke. about 2 months later I was giving the same laugh to HH.

just let me add to the multitudes by saying. . .YOUR A FUCKING HYPOCRITE.

[lifeis30seconds]

hahahahahahahaha



baaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

oohahhahahahahahahahaha




wow folks
hahaha senses faaaaaaaaaail!!!!! yeaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!! rockNroll FOOOOREEVVVVVVERRRRR!!!




rawr

[AHMYBRAIN]

And this, ladies and gentlmen, is being totally out of touch with your audience.

I hate this guy and I hate this band.

[we are cured]

i'll just say this- i saw them with std in brooklyn and 10 minutes through their set, buddy could not hit a single fucking note. it was appalling that i had to sit through that. being the weakest link in his own band, he should stop speaking about originality, because he's the least bit of it out of any those guys.

[Total Silence]

I'm pretty sure I still hold a grudge against Buddy ever since he flipped me off for no apparent reason two years ago.

You must have done something to stupid to merit such an action.

"O man he flipped me off" dude grow a set of balls will you.

[wakeupgomer]

They are so daring...like that lip ring that appeared before the latest album, Buddy? Talk about contrived rebellion or trying to be something...

I actually can stand Senses Fail's music, but this sort of thing just rubs me the wrong way. Who is he to criticize ANYBODY?

[wakeupgomer]

good lord. . .I can't believe he treid to pull this shit. Senses fail cleared the way for hawthorne heights by convincing people that dry heaving into a microphone can suffice as "screaming." The first time I heard their bassist trying to scream I had to laugh. . .I thought it was a joke. about 2 months later I was giving the same laugh to HH.

just let me add to the multitudes by saying. . .YOUR A FUCKING HYPOCRITE.

You just said exactly what I was feeling.

[quickandsilver]

Whatever you feel about this band, you can't argue that he isn't right here. This scene is getting worse and worse and I personally can't wait for it to fade out of the spotlight and go back to how it was about 4 years ago when it was thriving and the talent pool wasn't so diluted.

AMEN!!!

[GoWaitInTheCar]

One thing everyone failed to mention and it makes me laugh.

It was truely all about the music, then the makeup all the other bands wear wouldn't even be the subject of comment.

[TopgunSJB]

"This is suppose to be about music...



anyone else find this ironic? haha Senses fail talking about music


make some

[Shatter_Glass]

"OMG like I've gained this whole new respect for SF!" - Gag. Oh and "Buddy", if that is your real name, have fun on tour when no other bands talk to you. Just because you toured with (an?) STD does not make your band better musically, or in the "scene" that is "a crashing wave". But you don't care about that "scene" right? Of course not, because you would'nt have written the piece above.

[pillpillow]

is he pretending senses fail isn't unorginal and in a bunch of magazines all the time?

[Rockybehri]

yea, buddy doesn't wear girl pants.


c'mon, he is everything he hates, just because he doesnt wear eyeliner, doesnt denounce the fact that he represents the same things a band like say, fall out boy stands for.

maybe he should take less time, ranting about stupid crap and write some decent lyrics.

[jawkneephighv]

wtf so i thought he was gonna start calling out bands since he said he's tired of people holding back, but once again, he like others just hid behind the sidelines. you wanna impres me? call out the bands. like avenged. god damn fruits.

[broken_loser]

hypocrite.

[tiredofwaiting]

alright, i know this is an old post, and old news, but here's something to think about...

i don't expect you to care about what i have to say...because i don't care what you have to say either.

a guy in a band said something about music. if that doesn't get him even a little credibility, than what does? at least he didn't try to talk about politics or anything.

speaking of which, i don't judge my music based on the bands thoughts and opinions of anything. for the same reason that pete rose should be in baseball's hall of fame, you should listen to the music you like regardless of what the band member's think. now i know it gets personal at times, like when the lead singer said hit to you at a concert or gave you the finger...but for the most part judge it for what it is...music.

this 'scene' that you speak of is bullshit when you think about. it's not a place, or thing, or anyone...it's a f'ing idea. and everyone thinks they have a better idea than the next person.

this entire website just reminds me of immature children...'my dad can beat up your dad'...instead of having that argument everyday, why not go home and tell your dad how much you appreciate him.

basically, support and enjoy your own musical tastes...and enjoy this site for the news it provides...don't bring it down by bashing bands that you don't like...because i don't care

[Buried A Lie]

alright, i know this is an old post, and old news, but here's something to think about...

i don't expect you to care about what i have to say...because i don't care what you have to say either.

a guy in a band said something about music. if that doesn't get him even a little credibility, than what does? at least he didn't try to talk about politics or anything.

speaking of which, i don't judge my music based on the bands thoughts and opinions of anything. for the same reason that pete rose should be in baseball's hall of fame, you should listen to the music you like regardless of what the band member's think. now i know it gets personal at times, like when the lead singer said hit to you at a concert or gave you the finger...but for the most part judge it for what it is...music.

this 'scene' that you speak of is bullshit when you think about. it's not a place, or thing, or anyone...it's a f'ing idea. and everyone thinks they have a better idea than the next person.

this entire website just reminds me of immature children...'my dad can beat up your dad'...instead of having that argument everyday, why not go home and tell your dad how much you appreciate him.

basically, support and enjoy your own musical tastes...and enjoy this site for the news it provides...don't bring it down by bashing bands that you don't like...because i don't care

nicely said, and i like the comparison to pete rose. and the idea of using your time to support a band instead of ripping on ones you hate, ive said this before a few times on this site, but there are kids on here who will just shoot it down because they will insist that your taste sucks and theirs is better. o well, i know its not gunna change, its a nice thought though