View Full Version : Adam Vinatieri: Hall of Famer?
Should Adam Vinatieri go to the Hall of Fame when his career is done? There is only one placekicker in the hall. I think Vinatieri should go. He is the greatest clutch kicker of all time. He is basically the reason for the pats first super bowl (the game winner in the snow versus the raiders, and the game winner in the super bowl). He started the pats dynasty. Are his skills and ability in the clutch able to get him into the HOF?
histrionics22
03/23/06, 06:17 PM
What is this like the 5th vinatieri thread?
Vincewithouthee
03/23/06, 06:17 PM
I think he should. Points and stats are irrelevant when it comes to kicking, unless it's accuracy. Which Vinateri is great at and his clutch kicks of course. He gets the job done all the time.
He'll probably get a lot of kicks and points while playing for the Colts and being indoors half the year anyway.
Drew Beringer
03/23/06, 06:18 PM
If he wins a Super Bowl for the Colts the way he did for the Pats, then yes.
What is this like the 5th vinatieri thread?
he's the topic of the week, last week it was bonds, now it's him
mikeford
03/23/06, 06:21 PM
If he wins a Super Bowl for the Colts the way he did for the Pats, then yes.
why does he have to win a superbowl with the colts? he's already won 2 via his leg.
histrionics22
03/23/06, 06:21 PM
he's the topic of the week, last week it was bonds, now it's him
Oh well. I think he will be. How many kickers are in the Hall? He might not have the stats but hes made some legendary kicks.
Drew Beringer
03/23/06, 06:24 PM
why does he have to win a superbowl with the colts? he's already won 2 via his leg.
Cause he'll be a shoe-in then.
Oh well. I think he will be. How many kickers are in the Hall? He might not have the stats but hes made some legendary kicks.
one
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=203
some of the old guys were part time kickers, but that doesn't really count. This is the only full-time kicker in the hall.
histrionics22
03/23/06, 06:27 PM
one
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=203
some of the old guys were part time kickers, but that doesn't really count. This is the only full-time kicker in the hall.
Gary Anderson isnt in? Isn't he the all-time leader in points?
mikeford
03/23/06, 06:27 PM
Gary Anderson isnt in? Isn't he the all-time leader in points?
i dont think hes been retired for long enough yet.
histrionics22
03/23/06, 06:28 PM
i dont think hes been retired for long enough yet.
Oh yea you're probably right. I forgot he only recently retired.
Trainsaw
03/23/06, 06:30 PM
He was the best player on the Pats team for their dynasty, i'd say so.
FondestMemory
03/23/06, 07:01 PM
He was the best player on the Pats team for their dynasty, i'd say so.
a kicker never ever will be the best player on any team.
i understand vinatieri was a big part of the super bowl wins, but he's a kicker.
also, tom brady?
a kicker never ever will be the best player on any team.
i understand vinatieri was a big part of the super bowl wins, but he's a kicker.
also, tom brady?
now, but he was the best during their first superbowl. he is the reason they won it.
FondestMemory
03/23/06, 07:12 PM
now, but he was the best during their first superbowl. he is the reason they won it.
he's a kicker. i'll say it again, a kicker will never ever be the best player on a team.
unless he can consistently make 85 yard field goals, then maybe. making a kick at the end after offense and defense has battled the entire game does not make you the best player.
histrionics22
03/23/06, 07:55 PM
he's a kicker. i'll say it again, a kicker will never ever be the best player on a team.
unless he can consistently make 85 yard field goals, then maybe. making a kick at the end after offense and defense has battled the entire game does not make you the best player.
Jay Feely said he's going to kick your ass.
FondestMemory
03/23/06, 07:57 PM
Jay Feely said he's going to kick your ass.
he better hit it on one of the first three tries, cause that's all he gets.
i'm feeling pretty safe.
still_life
03/23/06, 08:07 PM
Jan Stenerud is in the HOF, so Vinatieri, Gary, and Morten should also get in.
Jan Stenerud is in the HOF, so Vinatieri, Gary, and Morten should also get in.
now hold on, you can't just start throwing in every famous kicker. They need to stand out. I just think both of these guys fizzled out as they got older. I think anderson is the career points leader (not sure) but by the end of his career, he could barely hit anything over 40. I just think that if you can take any of these guys in their prime, it would be vinatieri.
histrionics22
03/23/06, 09:04 PM
now hold on, you can't just start throwing in every famous kicker. They need to stand out. I just think both of these guys fizzled out as they got older. I think anderson is the career points leader (not sure) but by the end of his career, he could barely hit anything over 40. I just think that if you can take any of these guys in their prime, it would be vinatieri.
Theres no one else today or in the last 20 years who compares to these three. They will all make it.
still_life
03/23/06, 09:10 PM
now hold on, you can't just start throwing in every famous kicker. They need to stand out. I just think both of these guys fizzled out as they got older. I think anderson is the career points leader (not sure) but by the end of his career, he could barely hit anything over 40. I just think that if you can take any of these guys in their prime, it would be vinatieri.
They all stand out.
Morten Andersen converted over 80% of his kicks in each of his last 5 seasons in the NFL. That's pretty damn good for an old guy. 2358 career points, two seasons with 31 FGs made,
Gary Anderson is the all time points leader with 2431, and really only had one bad season from 96-04.
They were both also apart of the 1980s and 1990s All-Decade team, which is selected by HOF committee, so they have a very good shot at getting in.
ThriftWhore
03/23/06, 09:39 PM
yes, he gets in. he won two super bowls for his team with his leg. definetely SHOULD get in.
yeat182
03/23/06, 10:30 PM
he's made the 3 of the biggest kicks of all time, he deserves to be in.
plus, he ran down herschel walker on a kick off return as a rookie, that alone is HOF worthy.
Scott Weber
03/24/06, 12:25 PM
haha, still life got pwned.
Scott Weber
03/24/06, 12:25 PM
Haha, Still_Life got pwned.
btbam > you
03/24/06, 12:26 PM
yes.
yeat182
03/24/06, 01:10 PM
Jan Stenerud is the only kicker in the HOF, so it would take something special to get it. I think Vinatieri qualifies, but i'm not sure Morten, or Gary are stand much of a chance.
histrionics22
03/24/06, 01:31 PM
Jan Stenerud is the only kicker in the HOF, so it would take something special to get it. I think Vinatieri qualifies, but i'm not sure Morten, or Gary are stand much of a chance.
Gary has been around forever and is the all-time leader in points. Theres no way he wont get in.
yeat182
03/24/06, 02:00 PM
Gary has been around forever and is the all-time leader in points. Theres no way he wont get in.
some kicker was the all time leader in points before him, and that guy isn't in.
i'm not saying he shouldn't be in, i'm just saying that the HOF voters don't vote for kickers, so their odds of getting in are slim.
edit: George Blanda was the previous leading scorer, now behind morten and gary, and he is in the hall of fame, however, he isn't a pure place kicker, as Stenerud is.
histrionics22
03/24/06, 02:10 PM
some kicker was the all time leader in points before him, and that guy isn't in.
i'm not saying he shouldn't be in, i'm just saying that the HOF voters don't vote for kickers, so their odds of getting in are slim.
edit: George Blanda was the previous leading scorer, now behind morten and gary, and he is in the hall of fame, however, he isn't a pure place kicker, as Stenerud is.
Gary played longer, has more points, and a better field goal percentage over his career. He will be in.
still_life
03/24/06, 02:29 PM
Haha, Still_Life got pwned.
What are you talking about?
yeat182
03/24/06, 08:29 PM
Gary played longer, has more points, and a better field goal percentage over his career. He will be in.
it's a pretty exclusive club.
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