Craig Owens - "With Love"

[inuewiwedem]

I realize there is a thread on this EP but it was filled with hate and hadn't been posted in in over a month so here we go...

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/94/l_97152acf6a1d4938b007e7f49c97eb5a. jpg

September 15th.

[danielineffigy]

Someone up the album art somewhere where I can see it haha. I assume its from Myspace but work blocks it.

[inuewiwedem]

Someone up the album art somewhere where I can see it haha. I assume its from Myspace but work blocks it.

I can't find it anywhere else so I'll just screenshot it and put up that.

edit:

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo61/wtfikillyou/Picture25.png

[danielineffigy]

Not bad haha. I kind of like it. I think I'll really dig this EP as long has he doesn't make that creaky "eeuuhh" noise at the end of every line like he did in Cinematic Sunrise's EP.

[MrOctober430]

emo

cant wait tho

[SophGod]

i had no idea about this.

should be awesome.

[inuewiwedem]

emo

cant wait tho
what

[Lemmi!]

i wonder what style the songs are gonna be, like all acoustic or like jonny craig

[inuewiwedem]

i wonder what style the songs are gonna be, like all acoustic or like jonny craig
He was supposed to post a new song yesterday but never did because he was sick. I guess we'll find out soon.

[Lemmi!]

He was supposed to post a new song yesterday but never did because he was sick. I guess we'll find out soon.

oh, hopefully he puts it up today

[Thomas Nassiff]

Another September Release, What Is This?!

EDIT: I HATE WHEN MY ALL CAPS DO THAT

[fly_guy]

I like the artwork. I dont think this guys a god, but he has a good voice. Im excited. :shrug:

[inuewiwedem]

Another September Release, What Is This?!

EDIT: I HATE WHEN MY ALL CAPS DO THAT
hahaha, you have to have at least one lowercase letter in the post. that's why people do the 'x' thing

[inuewiwedem]

I like the artwork. I dont think this guys a god, but he has a good voice. Im excited. :shrug:
Pretty much exactly how I feel.

[fly_guy]

Pretty much exactly how I feel.

I hate how people think he has a stellar voice and is a god to the scene. At the time when Chiodos was coming out, there were a ton of bands doing the same exact thing they were doing. It was just that Chiodos stuck around. He does have a good voice, but he does have an ego too.

[Thomas Nassiff]

hahaha, you have to have at least one lowercase letter in the post. that's why people do the 'x' thing

OH I SEE x

[inuewiwedem]

I hate how people think he has a stellar voice and is a god to the scene. At the time when Chiodos was coming out, there were a ton of bands doing the same exact thing they were doing. It was just that Chiodos stuck around. He does have a good voice, but he does have an ego too.
Yeah, there a much better singers. He's just involved in a lot of shit.

[fly_guy]

OH I SEE x

IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO TWO LINES DOWN

x

[inuewiwedem]

fucking stoked. Is that song Joanna Begins ow whatever supposed o be on this?
It's "Anna Begins". I'm not sure, I don't think he's said.

[Thomas Nassiff]

IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO TWO LINES DOWN

x

I KNOW BUT IM STARTING A NEW TREND x

[fly_guy]

I KNOW BUT IM STARTING A NEW TREND x

IT WONT WORK

x

[weaz45]

fucking stoked. Is that song Joanna Begins ow whatever supposed o be on this?
I think it's just "Joanna". I hope it's on it. It was so simple and catchy.

[inuewiwedem]

New song is up featuring Stephen Christian.

[inuewiwedem]

Shit, this song is really good. Craig and Stephen both sound awesome.

[PenThrive]

I'm interested in this. I can't listen to it until I get home.

[Lemmi!]

song is pretty good

[Thomas Nassiff]

IT WONT WORK

x

YOU NEVER KNOW x

[Thomas Nassiff]

Cool. The version I have is untitled. I'm hoping this EP is on the long side.

I think it's just "Joanna". I hope it's on it. It was so simple and catchy.

its not called Joanna Begins or Joanna. its called Anna Begins and it was written by Counting Crows on their album August and Everything After, which owens cites as an influence. i cant believe people dont know this, i guess Counting Crows isnt as popular as i thought they were. i think theyre great.

anyways, i dont think itll be on the EP, i havent heard any news about it or anything, its just my gut feeling. i wouldnt really be that surprised if it was though.

im definitely picking this up when it drops

[Thomas Nassiff]

anybody know a place other than myspace to hear this? the work proxy blocks it.....whats it called?

[weaz45]

its not called Joanna Begins or Joanna. its called Anna Begins and it was written by Counting Crows on their album August and Everything After, which owens cites as an influence. i cant believe people dont know this, i guess Counting Crows isnt as popular as i thought they were. i think theyre great.

anyways, i dont think itll be on the EP, i havent heard any news about it or anything, its just my gut feeling. i wouldnt really be that surprised if it was though.

im definitely picking this up when it drops
I know Anna Begins is a Counting Crows cover. He has another song that he wrote for his gf called "Joanna".

[Thomas Nassiff]

I know Anna Begins is a Counting Crows cover. He has another song that he wrote for his gf called "Joanna".

oh okay, my fault, i misunderstood. sorry if i offended anyone. anyways, have you heard that song? where's it streaming?

[Thomas Nassiff]

the song I was talking about is called Joannna but mine's untitled

I'm not sure if you've heard it but it's not on his myspace. Here it is
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?muxtgiyv3jz

oh sweet. thanks man.

[Thomas Nassiff]

the song I was talking about is called Joannna but mine's untitled

I'm not sure if you've heard it but it's not on his myspace. Here it is
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?muxtgiyv3jz

holy mushy love lyrics, batman. the music is good, but man, are those mushy. good for him. he's in love.

like, really really in love.

[Stage Blood]

I met this dude the other day.

[HangsLikeHeaven]

This the dude from Chiodos? Oh boy...

[Thomas Nassiff]

I really like it. It sound cute and sincere. It makes me wonder ho wthe lyrics will be on the next Chidos album

yeah, it sounds extremely sincere. im hoping though, that chiodos sticks to their own recipe and he used this EP as an outlet for anything else he was feeling.

[Thomas Nassiff]

I'm guessing he was a rude and pretentious asshole

sarcasm

lmao

[Charles777]

I like the song. MUCH better than the "Anna Begins" cover. El Dorado was a good one too.

[Stage Blood]

I'm guessing he was a rude and pretentious asshole

sarcasm

No he was a great guy, he did plug this album, though, haha.

[weaz45]

I really like it. It sound cute and sincere. It makes me wonder ho wthe lyrics will be on the next Chidos album
I don't think any lyrics like that will be on the new Chiodos. It was just a song he wrote for fun.

[Drown_The_City]

The new song is not that bad. I hope he changes his views on AP.net

It sucks he would generalize the entire user base into a bunch of ignorant haters...

[Genuma]

It's "Anna Begins". I'm not sure, I don't think he's said.

fucking stoked. Is that song Joanna Begins ow whatever supposed o be on this?
what the fuck. it's a counting crows song you stupid fucks.

[Genuma]

Is it really also called Anna Begins? I can't see that being a very popular song title.

[irockyournipple]

what the fuck. it's a counting crows song you stupid fucks.
lol i never said it wasn't...

[weaz45]

It's called Joanna

[dancelukedance]

New song is nice.


Looking so forward to this, Jonny Craig's and Isles and Glaciers

[Genuma]

how did anyone get anna begins form joanna?

[murrich]

how did anyone get anna begins form joanna?

Because they like Chiodos, I thought that was obvious.

[Genuma]

but if they didn't know it was a CC song how did they... fuck trying to understand these people.

[Yellowcard2006]

Anyone else think the singer from Envy On The Coast sounds like Craig Owens?

[irockyournipple]

Anyone else think the singer from Envy On The Coast sounds like Craig Owens?
I don't. the dude from EOTC sounds like Matt Geise from Lower Definition and Daryl from Glassjaw. a lot. haha

[Lemmi!]

Anyone else think the singer from Envy On The Coast sounds like Craig Owens?

no.. they both have two entirely different voices

[Yellowcard2006]

no.. they both have two entirely different voices
What about on Sugar Skulls? Whatever, I hear it.

[Lemmi!]

What about on Sugar Skulls? Whatever, I hear it.

no not really, craig's voice is way more whiny than that other dude.

[Yellowcard2006]

no not really, craig's voice is way more whiny than that other dude.
That I agree with, I just hear some similarities when he goes into the higher notes. Chiodos is much harder to listen to.

[AndrewIcex]

I am looking forward to this.

[Klatzke]

I'm actually looking forward to this...

[xJesusFreakx]

I really like "Products of Poverty," though probably just because it has Stephen Christian's voice.

[irockyournipple]

Craig definitely has talent, and I'm beginning to think he's wasting it in Chiodos.

[ChelseaRiane]

Products of Poverty is really good. He played this when he came here on his solo tour and I liked it then too. He played a lot of new stuff then and it sounds like Products of Poverty so the EP should be good

[ChelseaRiane]

Craig definitely has talent, and I'm beginning to think he's wasting it in Chiodos.

Chiodos is amazing. Craig isnt the only person making them amazing, its the band as a whole

[KBell]

i love craig owens, im going to see him at 299 in bris in a few weeks... it will be the highlight of my year :)

[dancelukedance]

i love craig owens, im going to see him at 299 in bris in a few weeks... it will be the highlight of my year :)

Im hitting the sydney show

[ChelseaRiane]

Of course hes not coming here on his US leg of the tour.

[ThemChains]

Craig definitely has talent, and I'm beginning to think he's wasting it in Chiodos.

They don't even write their own songs.

[ChelseaRiane]

They don't even write their own songs.

Was this a serious post?

[ThemChains]

Was this a serious post?

Um, yes it is a serious post. If you knew anything about anything you would know that Chiodos has their albums ghostwritten. Meaning someone else has written the songs, taught them to the band, and taken none of the credit.

[ChelseaRiane]

Um, yes it is a serious post. If you knew anything about anything you would know that Chiodos has their albums ghostwritten. Meaning someone else has written the songs, taught them to the band, and taken none of the credit.

Whos your source

[ThemChains]

Whos your source

There is one interview in particular with one individual ghostwriting the songs, in which he says this:

Is there any truth to the rumors of you and David ghost-writing Chiodos albums?
Well, I don't want to breach any contracts, but let's just say we've been busy for the last 3 years. I don't know if you've heard of Rise Records yet...

Also, in other interviews that I'll eventually dig up he says it a lot more clearly. If you think I'm lying or making this up to discredit Chiodos, you're a joke. So many bands have their albums written for them and this is nothing new....it''s just funny that people sweat this band, and there is actually no talent in them.

[ChelseaRiane]

There is one interview in particular with one individual ghostwriting the songs, in which he says this:

Is there any truth to the rumors of you and David ghost-writing Chiodos albums?
Well, I don't want to breach any contracts, but let's just say we've been busy for the last 3 years. I don't know if you've heard of Rise Records yet...

Also, in other interviews that I'll eventually dig up he says it a lot more clearly. If you think I'm lying or making this up to discredit Chiodos, you're a joke. So many bands have their albums written for them and this is nothing new....it''s just funny that people sweat this band, and there is actually no talent in them.

I'm not saying I dont believe you, its just as a huge fan of this band, its hard to accept. As pathetic as it sounds, I've revolved my life around this band, I've put them on such an high pedestal to the point where they can do no wrong in my eyes. Yes I know thats ridiculous but it's the truth. And for some strange reason, I'm gonna thank you for telling me this. For years now I've listend to Craig go on and on about how hard he was working on these songs for Chiodos and how much the lyrics meant to him but just to find out he didnt write them is upsetting. I wanna say I lost respect for them because Craig continously sits in front of hundreds of fans every night and explains to them how he was feeling when he wrote those songs and how much they mean to them but he wasnt the one writing them at all, but its hard to just give up on them so easily. I guess I'm in shock

[ThemChains]

I'm not saying I dont believe you, its just as a huge fan of this band, its hard to accept. As pathetic as it sounds, I've revolved my life around this band, I've put them on such an high pedestal to the point where they can do no wrong in my eyes. Yes I know thats ridiculous but it's the truth. And for some strange reason, I'm gonna thank you for telling me this. For years now I've listend to Craig go on and on about how hard he was working on these songs for Chiodos and how much the lyrics meant to him but just to find out he didnt write them is upsetting. I wanna say I lost respect for them because Craig continously sits in front of hundreds of fans every night and explains to them how he was feeling when he wrote those songs and how much they mean to them but he wasnt the one writing them at all, but its hard to just give up on them so easily. I guess I'm in shock

On the contrary, he probably wrote the lyrics to the songs. All of the music was written by two other people who are not in the band at all. Not that writing the lyrics should give him any credit, they aren't very good. When it comes to very obviously manufactured music like this, which is just playing off a huge trend popularized at any high mall punk store, chances are the band has nothing to do with it.

[Klatzke]

I'm not saying I dont believe you, its just as a huge fan of this band, its hard to accept. As pathetic as it sounds, I've revolved my life around this band, I've put them on such an high pedestal to the point where they can do no wrong in my eyes. Yes I know thats ridiculous but it's the truth. And for some strange reason, I'm gonna thank you for telling me this. For years now I've listend to Craig go on and on about how hard he was working on these songs for Chiodos and how much the lyrics meant to him but just to find out he didnt write them is upsetting. I wanna say I lost respect for them because Craig continously sits in front of hundreds of fans every night and explains to them how he was feeling when he wrote those songs and how much they mean to them but he wasnt the one writing them at all, but its hard to just give up on them so easily. I guess I'm in shock
Yeah. HORSE the Band had a big fiasco with them because Chiodos never acknowledged that HORSE wrote half their shit in their CD credits.

[ChelseaRiane]

On the contrary, he probably wrote the lyrics to the songs. All of the music was written by two other people who are not in the band at all. Not that writing the lyrics should give him any credit, they aren't very good. When it comes to very obviously manufactured music like this, which is just playing off a huge trend popularized at any high mall punk store, chances are the band has nothing to do with it.

But both the music and lyrics are good. I really dont care if the intrumental part is written for them. As long as the lyrics are I'm okay with that.

Yeah. HORSE the Band had a big fiasco with them because Chiodos never acknowledged that HORSE wrote half their shit in their CD credits.

That is pretty rude

[dancelukedance]

Who has acquired the ep?

I think its quite good upon first listen

[xjulianx89]

Just started listening to it. My order was delayed, so they sent me a download link.

[Somefriday]

going to see him sunday
im guessing he'll play some stuff off it

[ChelseaRiane]

going to see him sunday
im guessing he'll play some stuff off it

He did even before it came out

[ChelseaRiane]

haev yet to recieve this in the mail. I'm kinda pissed

[tyramail]

haev yet to recieve this in the mail. I'm kinda pissed
the manufacturing was delayed, i got an email today that it won't be shipped until the 21st.

[tyramail]

Who has acquired the ep?

I think its quite good upon first listen
i agree. although i must admit i thought it would be better, but that may just be because i had such high expectations.

[tyramail]

It's called Joanna
on the ep it is called "first one, i love you so much more"

how did anyone get anna begins form joanna?
he did a cover of anna begins, then wrote a song about his girlfriend joanna, which is not actually called joanna.

[ChelseaRiane]

the manufacturing was delayed, i got an email today that it won't be shipped until the 21st.

that sucks. Mat Musto's CD was held back too

[wendjiqn]

this EP is soooo good

[ChelseaRiane]

The stuff he played when he came here was soo much better. Two best songs are Products and First Love

[Spire]

I love Jonny Craig but I'm not a huge fan of his solo album...sadly. I love Craigs though

[MILFCORE]

Yo Craig, I'm really happy for you, and imma let you finish, but Anthony Green had the best solo album of all time! OF ALL TIME!

[xjulianx89]

I just love 'First one, I love you so much more'.

[quicksilv001]

What i don't like about this guy is that he has so many side projects(Cinematic Sunrise, Isles & Glaciers, Solo) and I never hear anything about Chiodos anymore.

[Mibabalou]

Yo Craig, I'm really happy for you, and imma let you finish, but Anthony Green had the best solo album of all time! OF ALL TIME!

ughhh

[ChelseaRiane]

Yo Craig, I'm really happy for you, and imma let you finish, but Anthony Green had the best solo album of all time! OF ALL TIME!

Agreed