View Full Version : The Morrissey Icon Is Never Used Without Drama, It Seems
Paul Tao
03/27/06, 09:15 AM
Morrissey (http://www.morrisseymusic.com/) is boycotting Canada (http://www.nme.com/news/morrissey/22617) over its annual seal hunt.
Meat is murder. Killing animals for no reason is fucked.
I'm with you on this on Morrissey.
People make there livings off that annual seal hunt. Yes I hate it but it goes way culturely deeper then Morrisey could ever understand. Typical artist sticking his oh so important nose where it does not belong.The Natives have been doing this hunt for thousands of years. It has more history then the oldest vegan restuaraunt in all of Berkly.
cavein86
03/27/06, 09:29 AM
I'm eating a nice juicy seal burger...yum!
IwishIwasCool
03/27/06, 09:31 AM
cute
tommyhaych
03/27/06, 09:35 AM
how do you boycott a country anyway? does that mean he just doesn't buy exported products from there?
I kinda agree with him on the seal thing, but why people support the whole meat is murder thing bestows me. It's just nature, animal eats animal.
What would a lion do to a deer? Lull it into depression so it kills itself? Nah, it murders it.
I'm not a murdering kinda guy, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over how many cows I ate this week.
GoWaitInTheCar
03/27/06, 09:37 AM
Morrissey is hard.
Fcuk Canada.
myjokesmakeucry
03/27/06, 09:37 AM
i am kind of sick of morrisey
GoWaitInTheCar
03/27/06, 09:38 AM
how do you boycott a country anyway? does that mean he just doesn't buy exported products from there?
I kinda agree with him on the seal thing, but why people support the whole meat is murder thing bestows me. It's just nature, animal eats animal.
What would a lion do to a deer? Lull it into depression so it kills itself? Nah, it murders it.
I'm not a murdering kinda guy, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over how many cows I ate this week.
I agree with your statement. But you gotta realize, it doesn't matter. Morrissey can do whatever he wants.
knowsovertale
03/27/06, 09:39 AM
so standing up for what you believe in is now considered drama?
cahrishurr
03/27/06, 09:41 AM
good, great, grand for fucking morrissey
hope he has fun "boycotting" canada...i mean i guess this means he will have nothing to do with the country until they stop the seal hunt
but i mean...its just morrissey..im sure not much of the population will care if morrissey boycotts them
Paul Tao
03/27/06, 09:41 AM
so standing up for what you believe in is now considered drama?
I was anticipating drama, because I had a feeling that there'd be people in this thread that will say some of the following...
"Who the hell does Morrissey think he is?"
"Morrissey is retarded"
"What does he think he'll accomplish? Christ!"
among others
Manbotisdead
03/27/06, 10:03 AM
For every show morrissey should have played in Canada i'm going to slaughter 4 seals.
josiahh
03/27/06, 10:10 AM
if a baby seal had the chance to club you and your whole family, it would.
so standing up for what you believe in is now considered drama?
Most of the time
josiahh
03/27/06, 10:12 AM
in all honesty if they weren't so cute and cudley looking most of these celebrities would not be on the boycott bandwagon...sure that's a blanket statement with no factual evidence supporting it, other than the cute and cudley part, i dare anyone to say they aren't...but i digress
"and what are you?"
"i'm a seal"
"and what do you do"
"i lie and my back and do cute human tricks with my paws"
"you're free to go. and what are you?"
"i'm a cow"
"get in the fucking truck"
"but..."
"you're mother was a baseball glove now get in the fucking truck"
...although leary might have used otters not seals, i can't remember.
"Construction of German gas chambers also provided work for someone - this is not a moral or sound reason for allowing suffering."
Morrissey compared jews to animals. Uncool Morrissey. He showed his true colors
thehighwaysend
03/27/06, 10:21 AM
blame canadaaaa
blame canadaaaa
....but seriously, i get what he's saying. it's the same problem i have with veal. baby cows don't get to live their life before they're killed for hungry italians. adult cows however have lived a while before they are killed, plus theyre not babies chained down so they can't walk, so there's nothing inhumane about it. (p.s. vegetarians don't bother lashing back at me for that, you won't recruit me.)
but back to the point, if it were adult seals it would be understandable for that same reason. if they're allowed to at least grow into adults and procreate so their species survives, then at least it won't kill off the seals
maledixtion
03/27/06, 10:21 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/chemicalbirds/Random%20shit/1142813139061.png
Paul Tao
03/27/06, 10:22 AM
"Construction of German gas chambers also provided work for someone - this is not a moral or sound reason for allowing suffering."
Morrissey compared jews to animals. Uncool Morrissey. He showed his true colors
Oh, come off it now. You know he didn't mean it like that. He was just trying to find a horrific, traumatic event that most people reading the press releases would most likely be able to have at least some kind of knowledge about, and it just so happens that the Holocaust was what he came up with. Not the most politically correct, no, but stripped down to its roots, the comparison has merit.
golfchick
03/27/06, 10:24 AM
I know seal hunt sounds (and looks) really disgusting, but we have to understand that some people don't have the luxury to stop doing it, its not for pleasure, for communities located in Newfoundland, Labrador, and parts of Quebec, seal hunting is the ONLY part of their revenue.
I guess I'm just annoyed that its the new trend for celebrities (McCartney, Brigitte Bardot, Pamela Anderson, ect.) to join the fight against seal hunting and all that boycotting bullshit. Its been around for centuries, the First Nations have been doing it has part of their traditions, its doesn't make up for it being a crual affair but that's just the way it goes.
MrBaileySays
03/27/06, 10:26 AM
Meat is murder. Killing animals for no reason is fucked.
I'm with you on this on Morrissey.
People kill animals for food.
Morrisey is a sissy sissy girl girl.
FASSWcore
03/27/06, 10:38 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/chemicalbirds/Random%20shit/1142813139061.png
how horrible, is that seal's mouth agape in fear??
tommyhaych
03/27/06, 10:39 AM
GolfChick, I agree with you there because the same kind of ethic was applied around here (britain) for a while.
People were saying fox-hunting was wrong, which it can be, but thanks to that ban, a good few thousand people have lost their livelyhood.
eversochili
03/27/06, 10:43 AM
i dont know much about this band but i'm guessing theyre not vegetarians and that they wear leather. in which case they shouldnt waste their time boycotting canada over a seal hunt because the meat and leather industries are just as bad.
cal1082
03/27/06, 10:45 AM
Morrissey (http://www.morrisseymusic.com/) is boycotting Canada (http://www.nme.com/news/morrissey/22617) over its annual seal hunt.
What a crushing blow for Canada. God only knows where they will go from here?
cavein86
03/27/06, 10:47 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/chemicalbirds/Random%20shit/1142813139061.png
lol
I really do HATE this seal hunt as much as the next guy. That picture really bothers me bad BUT unlike 98% of rock stars I live in the real world. That picture is the real world. Humans are on the top of the food chain and that seal would be just as scared if it was a Killer whale attacking him. It's all nature. The Seals are used for there meat as well as there skins.
cavein86
03/27/06, 10:48 AM
that picture is pretty horrible though
cal1082
03/27/06, 10:53 AM
Maybe Morrissey will boycott driving as well
http://www.meredithware.com/web5/images/3118_windshield_bug.jpg
Paul Tao
03/27/06, 10:55 AM
i dont know much about this band but i'm guessing theyre not vegetarians and that they wear leather. in which case they shouldnt waste their time boycotting canada over a seal hunt because the meat and leather industries are just as bad.
morrissey is only one man and, actually, he IS a vegetarian. i can almost guarantee you he doesn't wear leather either. he is a hardcore peta/animal rights/etc. kind of guy
josiahh
03/27/06, 10:55 AM
What a crushing blow for Canada. God only knows where they will go from here?
quite frankly i don't think we'll recover. it may be time to finally admit that we aren't a real country anyway and join iceland....because apparently they are pretty good at hockey, at least that's what i gather from watching D2...
i dont know much about this band but i'm guessing theyre not vegetarians and that they wear leather. in which case they shouldnt waste their time boycotting canada over a seal hunt because the meat and leather industries are just as bad.
I like your point but are you 9 years old.
goddamngourd
03/27/06, 11:02 AM
but back to the point, if it were adult seals it would be understandable for that same reason. if they're allowed to at least grow into adults and procreate so their species survives, then at least it won't kill off the seals
it is adult seals... also they don't club them anymore - those pictures are old. cheaper/less bad publicity to shoot them. not like the species is endangered, plus canadian fishermen get to keep their jobs.
/'it is adult seals'? hm.
Jason Tate
03/27/06, 11:32 AM
i dont know much about this band but i'm guessing theyre not vegetarians and that they wear leather. in which case they shouldnt waste their time boycotting canada over a seal hunt because the meat and leather industries are just as bad.
Yah, you really do no nothing about this "band" .. hahahahahahaha..
lewisonfire
03/27/06, 11:32 AM
Seal hunting is terribly bad...and canadians have been fighting over this for more than 40 years.
Now, I think that is a bit lousy from Morrissey, because there would be tons of reasons to boycott every country.
Jason Tate
03/27/06, 11:33 AM
it is adult seals... also they don't club them anymore - those pictures are old. cheaper/less bad publicity to shoot them. not like the species is endangered, plus canadian fishermen get to keep their jobs.
/'it is adult seals'? hm.
If your livelihood really revolves around killing seals, maybe there's some other calling in life that you'd be better suited to go try out. Seriously.
Jason Tate
03/27/06, 11:35 AM
Seal hunting is terribly bad...and canadians have been fighting over this for more than 40 years.
Now, I think that is a bit lousy from Morrissey, because there would be tons of reasons to boycott every country.
Probably true, yet I think it's the point of the matter ... more so then anything else. Plus, it's a good excuse not to have to go to Canada :)
lewisonfire
03/27/06, 11:39 AM
Probably true, yet I think it's the point of the matter ... more so then anything else. Plus, it's a good excuse not to have to go to Canada :)
Yeah, well I got your point...
But I doubt he'll really ever make a difference in the conflict. The Bono intervention with Paul Martin did sh*t, unfortunetaly....oh and don't forget we now have a conservative governement (i.e: republicans).
Jason Tate
03/27/06, 11:45 AM
Yeah, well I got your point...
But I doubt he'll really ever make a difference in the conflict. The Bono intervention with Paul Martin did sh*t, unfortunetaly....oh and don't forget we now have a conservative governement (i.e: republicans).
In all likely hood it won't do anything, that's usually not the point to change something immediatly though, the point is to bring awareness to the cause so that hopefully sometime in the future people do change what's taking place.
lewisonfire
03/27/06, 11:49 AM
Seal hunting is terribly bad...and canadians have been fighting over this for more than 40 years.
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lewisonfire
03/27/06, 11:56 AM
In all likely hood it won't do anything, that's usually not the point to change something immediatly though, the point is to bring awareness to the cause so that hopefully sometime in the future people do change what's taking place.
I'm no fan or repression.
Instead of boycotting, which:
1- Makes Morrissey fans sad
2- Brings over-generalization and a negative perspective of Canada
3- Might aware people of the situation, but concentrate the point on the boycotting
He could have booked the concerts and give a part of the profits, or heck, name the tour in the cause of seal hunting, which:
1- Would stil make people aware of the situation
2- Would make Morrissey fans more than happy
3- Wouldnt push "outside" people to generalization
4- Give the opportunity to Morrrisey to visit the direct communities affected by the conflict
Jason Tate
03/27/06, 12:03 PM
I'm no fan or repression.
Instead of boycotting, which:
1- Makes Morrissey fans sad
2- Brings over-generalization and a negative perspective of Canada
3- Might aware people of the situation, but concentrate the point on the boycotting
He could have booked the concerts and give a part of the profits, or heck, name the tour in the cause of seal hunting, which:
1- Would stil make people aware of the situation
2- Would make Morrissey fans more than happy
3- Wouldnt push "outside" people to generalization
4- Give the opportunity to Morrrisey to visit the direct communities affected by the conflict
Probably true .. but hey, Boycotting things is so much more fun. Hahaha..
number2alien
03/27/06, 12:05 PM
As great as it is to stand up for your beliefs, a country boycott is such a hypocritical move. Guaranteed, Morrissey will eventually play Canada again. Massive Attack boycotted the United States since well before the release of 100th Window, but now they're playing Coachella next month, because they realise that boycotting a country isn't exactly productive. Now, I'm not saying a Morrissey tour skipping Canada is going to make the man declare bankruptcy, but he's going to lose a fair chunk of fans for a bold statement like that. And, finally, it's fucking hypocritical. He's from a country that frequently deports innocent asylum-seekers from Iraq and Algeria, and is also planning on visiting the States, a country that frequently enters armed conflict to support puppet regimes and murderous totalitarian states in Colombia, Turkey, and, of course, Iraq.
Oh well. I don't even really like Morrissey anyway.
number2alien
03/27/06, 12:08 PM
Probably true .. but hey, Boycotting things is so much more fun. Hahaha..
Way to dismiss an intelligent argument by sheer ignorance and racism!
GoWaitInTheCar
03/27/06, 12:17 PM
If your livelihood really revolves around killing seals, maybe there's some other calling in life that you'd be better suited to go try out. Seriously.
You are the most witty, smartest guy in this forum.
Seriously.
12:46AM
03/27/06, 12:49 PM
For every show morrissey should have played in Canada i'm going to slaughter 4 seals. hahahaha
JunkBondTrader
03/27/06, 12:57 PM
......i could give a shit what morrissey says. i will eat meat all i want. fuck you emo vegans. seriously, its a part of life. death is a part of life, as im sure you are all well aware hahahahahahaha. fucking christ, get over it. you come on this board, bitch about this seal shit, and you wont think about it again. dont bullshit me. some guy killing seal doesnt really piss you off. get your ass off the bandwagon and eat some fucking meat.
12:46AM
03/27/06, 01:01 PM
Probably true, yet I think it's the point of the matter ... more so then anything else. Plus, it's a good excuse not to have to go to Canada :) it's official:
jason tate hates canada.
painisaillusion
03/27/06, 01:06 PM
......i could give a shit what morrissey says. i will eat meat all i want. fuck you emo vegans. seriously, its a part of life. death is a part of life, as im sure you are all well aware hahahahahahaha. fucking christ, get over it. you come on this board, bitch about this seal shit, and you wont think about it again. dont bullshit me. some guy killing seal doesnt really piss you off. get your ass off the bandwagon and eat some fucking meat.
Some reason I'm not shocked you live by me. Same attitude everyone in this region has all close minded fucks that won't question anything they do just line up in lines and do what everyone else does. I think its good hes standing up for what he beleves in every once in awhile people do that and it usally starts a change. Hell if noone stood up to germany we would still have nazi's having control of half the planet. The seal hunt has been getting boycotted for like the past 5-10 years AT LEAST. Its not the cool new thing to jump on it every year you hear about famous people boycotting it. Now they are actually doing something about it IE going up there and talking to the goverment or just boycotting canadian goods.
goddamngourd
03/27/06, 01:15 PM
If your livelihood really revolves around killing seals, maybe there's some other calling in life that you'd be better suited to go try out. Seriously.
so letting the seals' population grow uncontrolled so that they humanely starve to death for lack of a food supply would be better? not saying it's pretty, but unless their natural predators can get back to where they function as population control, i don't see an alternative...
12:46AM
03/27/06, 01:32 PM
so letting the seals' population grow uncontrolled so that they humanely starve to death for lack of a food supply would be better? not saying it's pretty, but unless their natural predators can get back to where they function as population control, i don't see an alternative... yeah, it's not like they're killing seals for fun. there is a reason behind it.
guthriePC
03/27/06, 02:39 PM
God, I hate Morrissey.
i hate pussy celebrities. no one would give a damn about your hippie far left liberal protests, but since you're famous it gets plastered all over the news.
too bad morrisey. you make good music though.
"steven morrissey doesn't care about canadian people"
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