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TheFaceOfZach
08/06/09, 10:04 PM
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Now, I'm a centrist, I try and as hard as I might to not be bias. I am admittedly a bit more to the left. I don't like the healthcare reform bill, because it will increase our debt, and the spending to me seems slightly out of control. So I wonder where this bitch (Pelosi) comes off calling the majority of Americans (like me) a Nazi. Now this is where I go into how this is a personal matter to me and maybe others who oppose this bill. I was raised in a JEWISH FAMILY.

Now, people here are fairly left usually. But I please ask that you think about this. I don't carry Swastikas. I'm a kid who no longer practices Judaism (admitted an atheist, though in technicality, being Jewish is a heritage so I do consider myself a Jew). It's hard for me to see how this total SELF-ABSORBED BITCH comes across saying THESE THINGS!!!!


Any opinions on this? Are you offended? Do you support the healthcare reform and are you offended by this statement (which really doesn't matter to me if support it). But if someone legitimately believes in something, they have to be considered less? Is this ELITISM that we were told was coming from the Right? And the fact is there is ELITISM on BOTH. So please, discuss this.

Machu505
08/06/09, 10:08 PM
Hahahaha. She was referring to the actual protesters at the town hall meetings that are actually displaying signs with swastikas.

saysmydoctor
08/06/09, 10:11 PM
I stopped reading when you stated the falsehood that the healthcare reform bill will increase our debt. The bill is budget neutral over 10 years and has a surplus after it. What you said is false.

saysmydoctor
08/06/09, 10:12 PM
She didn't even use the term nazi. You are a fucking idiot, sir.

TheFaceOfZach
08/06/09, 10:15 PM
She was asked if there is any legitimate uprising against it, she said that they are fake. And the picture with a swastika WAS FOR IRONY purposes. The woman who had it was calling Barack a Nazi. She's calling them nazis.

saysmydoctor
08/06/09, 10:17 PM
She didn't say they were fake, she rendered them illegitimate and irrelevant due to their irrationality.

Machu505
08/06/09, 10:18 PM
"They're carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on health care."

1. She isn't calling you or anyone else a Nazi. She is making reference to the astroturf protesters at town hall meetings.

2. Do you even know what irony is?

saysmydoctor
08/06/09, 10:22 PM
I just read a few comments on that video. I know Down's Syndrome is something you're born with, but I think it may have become viral.

TheFaceOfZach
08/06/09, 10:25 PM
She didn't even use the term nazi. You are a fucking idiot, sir.

Okay, but is she implying that they are Nazis. She's being tact. And I'm not an idiot. And fuck you too.


The swastika image was calling Obama a Nazi. Not a bunch of people CARRYING or WEARING swastikas. If she worded it wrong, that's understandable, but I'm offended

saysmydoctor
08/06/09, 10:27 PM
She is not implying they are nazis. I'll restate what I said before:

She didn't say they were [nazis], she rendered them illegitimate and irrelevant due to their irrationality.

xshady121
08/06/09, 10:28 PM
Okay, but is she implying that they are Nazis. She's being tact. And I'm not an idiot. And fuck you too.


The swastika image was calling Obama a Nazi. Not a bunch of people CARRYING or WEARING swastikas. If she worded it wrong, that's understandable, but I'm offended

She didn't say WEARING. She said "carrying".

TheFaceOfZach
08/06/09, 10:29 PM
I just read a few comments on that video. I know Down's Syndrome is something you're born with, but I think it may have become viral.


Ooh, flame game, alright I'm down.

Maybe you need to get yourself off your radical left pedestal, and try being a man who doesn't hide behind a computer with magical internet balls to go out and insult people. I was asking for opinions you stupid piece of shit.

TheFaceOfZach
08/06/09, 10:30 PM
She didn't say WEARING. She said "carrying".

And you quoted me saying carrying...:-|

saysmydoctor
08/06/09, 10:33 PM
There are no opinions in this matter of what Pelosi said and did not say. The facts are clear:

She did not use the word nazi.
Therefore, there was no possible way she was calling anyone a nazi.
She mentioned swastikas, because those are the symbols they are utilizing to describe Obama.
Your outrage is more biased and one sided than mine because you are only offended by being characterized a nazi yourself and are defending the people who utilizing the symbolism.
Your anger is unwarranted because she isn't characterizing them as nazis, she characterizing them as being idiots.

Now whether that is offensive or understandable (calling/characterizing citizens' opinions as idiotic), that's debatable.

xshady121
08/06/09, 10:33 PM
And you quoted me saying carrying...:-|

You threw the word "WEARING" in there, as if it was something she said. She didn't. She didn't come close to it. That's you trying to make her out to be evil.

I'm all for exposing the (many) faults of Nancy Pelosi, but come on. This is ridiculous.

saysmydoctor
08/06/09, 10:36 PM
You threw the word "WEARING" in there, as if it was something she said. She didn't. She didn't come close to it. That's you trying to make her out to be evil.

I'm all for exposing the (many) faults of Nancy Pelosi, but come on. This is ridiculous.
Bingo. My radical left wing pedestal doesn't mesh well with Nancy Pelosi, so it's not like I'm interested in defending her.

TheFaceOfZach
08/06/09, 10:40 PM
I'm saying it sounds like she's implying so chill guys, I'm just looking for opinions and how you interpret it. And are you possibly even offended by it. That is all.

saysmydoctor
08/06/09, 10:44 PM
She's not implying it. That's how it is, any other interpretations are ridiculous. No, I'm not offended because what she said isn't offensive.

/all

Machu505
08/06/09, 10:49 PM
I have no reason to be offended by it because A) I support a single-payer health care system and B) what she said was not offensive; it was a fact.

To you Mr. TheFaceOfZach, does this offend you?:

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/97283/thumbs/s-FTCOLLINS-large.jpg

xshady121
08/06/09, 11:03 PM
While I do not support single payer health care, it's almost impossible for me to even fathom how someone can be offended by that. If anything, I'm offended by the person holding the crossed out swastika sign; it's misinformed people like those pictured above that tend to give the conservative movement a bad name.

caveBEAR
08/06/09, 11:08 PM
I have no reason to be offended by it because A) I support a single-payer health care system and B) what she said was not offensive; it was a fact.

To you Mr. TheFaceOfZach, does this offend you?:

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/97283/thumbs/s-FTCOLLINS-large.jpg

Ha ha ha ha ha ha, the '? OBAMA' at the bottom is what really makes the sign for me.

ihaveblink
08/06/09, 11:25 PM
Wait....where did she call anybody a nazi. She was describing what they were doing. Unless she saw magical swasticas flying around.

blink182gether
08/06/09, 11:26 PM
She didn't even use the term nazi. You are a fucking idiot, sir.


this.

/thread.

God damner
08/07/09, 12:31 AM
yeah dude, your exaggerating what she said.

x togepi x
08/07/09, 12:34 AM
if you're a centrist, you're not trying too hard to not be biased.

Codi23
08/07/09, 12:35 AM
This thread is a total waste of space.

Don't spread false information, it makes you look like an idiot.

saysmydoctor
08/07/09, 01:39 AM
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Are you offended by this?

J.C.
08/07/09, 02:13 AM
I wish she had called you a nazi, just so this thread wouldn't have been such a waste of everyone's time.

Neo Cassady
08/07/09, 02:34 AM
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Are you offended by this?

Is this really how Fox News spends its time? Jesus Christ.

saysmydoctor
08/07/09, 02:56 AM
Is this really how Fox News spends its time? Jesus Christ.
They abandoned journalism a while ago.

My Broken Fever
08/07/09, 02:57 AM
They abandoned journalism a while ago. They never had it to begin with. :-d

perceptrons
08/07/09, 07:41 AM
I think it's funny that of all people, they compare Obama to a nazi. Is his real name Clayton Bigsby or something?

Animalhill
08/07/09, 08:01 AM
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Now, I'm a centrist, I try and as hard as I might to not be bias. I am admittedly a bit more to the left. I don't like the healthcare reform bill, because it will increase our debt, and the spending to me seems slightly out of control. So I wonder where this bitch (Pelosi) comes off calling the majority of Americans (like me) a Nazi. Now this is where I go into how this is a personal matter to me and maybe others who oppose this bill. I was raised in a JEWISH FAMILY.

Now, people here are fairly left usually. But I please ask that you think about this. I don't carry Swastikas. I'm a kid who no longer practices Judaism (admitted an atheist, though in technicality, being Jewish is a heritage so I do consider myself a Jew). It's hard for me to see how this total SELF-ABSORBED BITCH comes across saying THESE THINGS!!!!


Any opinions on this? Are you offended? Do you support the healthcare reform and are you offended by this statement (which really doesn't matter to me if support it). But if someone legitimately believes in something, they have to be considered less? Is this ELITISM that we were told was coming from the Right? And the fact is there is ELITISM on BOTH. So please, discuss this.
ארוך חי את ישראל!

My Broken Fever
08/07/09, 08:06 AM
ארוך חי את ישראל! That's what she said!

Yeah, ok. I have no idea what that means.

Animalhill
08/07/09, 08:07 AM
That's what she said!

Yeah, ok. I have no idea what that means.
Long Live Israel ;-)

Justin_stacy
08/07/09, 08:12 AM
I saw this earlier this week, what a dumb bitch. But our rich ruling class is so out of touch I don't really expect anything less from slim like her.

wrppdarndyrfngr
08/07/09, 09:34 AM
yay she is so dumb for telling the truth

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wrppdarndyrfngr
08/07/09, 09:58 AM
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Pelosi Is Not ‘Deranged’ — Swastikas And Comparisons To Hitler Are On Display At Town Hall Protests (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/07/pelosi-swastikas/)


Earlier this week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) came under heavy criticism from the right wing for her dismissal of the town hall tea parties as nothing but “Astroturf (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=44917&tsp=1).” She also noted the disturbing fact that participants have been “carrying swastikas (http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/pelosi_swastikas_protest/2009/08/06/244772.html) and symbols like that.”
The conservative site Wizbang called her claim a “crock (http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/08/06/pelosis-swastika-claim-is-a-crock.php).” Rush Limbaugh said that Pelosi was “deranged (http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908060017)” and accused her of calling conservatives “Nazis.” He then, however, went on to note the similarities between Democrats and Nazis:
The Speaker of the House accusing people showing up at these town hall meetings of wearing Swastikas — that is not insignificant folks. This woman is deranged. They are unraveling. But that is not insignificant. You have the Democrat Speaker of the House saying that people — citizens — who are concerned about health care are now wearing Swastikas. She’s basically saying that we are Nazis. She is saying that the people who oppose this are Nazis. [...]
This party, the Democrat Party, and where it’s taken this country — the radical left leadership of this party — bears much more resemblance to Nazi policies than anything we on the right believe in at all.
Unfortunately, Pelosi’s observation is true: there has been a disturbing (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/6/762891/-Insanity-at-Rep.-John-Din) number (http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/9101/cornyn-sessions-republicans-stoke-fear-anger-on-health-care) of Nazi (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/06/anti-obama-protester-comp_n_252815.html) references (http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/08/ss-nazi-sign/) at these tea party protests. A few examples:

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/swastikas.jpg
The intent of these displays is to portray Obama as Hitler and his proposals as fascist, and they seem to be following the lead of many right-wing pundits. Just yesterday, Limbaugh said, “Adolf Hitler, like Barack Obama (http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908060021), also ruled by dictate.” Fox News host Glenn Beck — an inspiration (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/06/tampa-town-hall/) for many of these town hall attendees — has said “fascism is on the rise (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/01/beck-march-to-fascism/).” Even Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) has talked about the increasing danger in America of “true fascism (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/25/cantor-fascism/).”
This August recess isn’t the first time we’ve seen these displays at tea parties either. Signs comparing Obama to Hitler (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/06/teaparty-obama-hitler/) or other global dictators (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/15/tea-party-dc/) were prominent at the tea parties a few months ago as well.

Nevuk
08/07/09, 10:05 AM
This is incredibly ironic, considering that Bush and his far right cronies were responsible for the rise of the resurgence of facism in america.

jawstheme
08/07/09, 10:14 AM
Either people are getting dumber, or dumber people are coming out with their idiotic opinions and theories more often.

punk89
08/07/09, 10:42 AM
Hahaha the OP got owned.

saysmydoctor
08/07/09, 10:45 AM
How'd I know Togepi would jump on the 'centrist' remark? Hahahaha

J.C.
08/07/09, 11:33 AM
I saw this earlier this week, what a dumb bitch. But our rich ruling class is so out of touch I don't really expect anything less from slim like her.

You know who's responsible for astroturfing these protests? THE RICH RULING CLASS.

It's almost as if you inhabit a separate reality from the rest of us.

Codi23
08/07/09, 11:54 AM
I saw this earlier this week, what a dumb bitch. But our rich ruling class is so out of touch I don't really expect anything less from slim like her.

What is a "slim"?

Anyway, you do realize that Bush gave tax cuts for the RICH ruling class, right? And that's part of the reason our economy is in such a disarray now, right?

You're probably one of those "astroturf" protesters, though, so that stuff goes right over your head... just keep brandishing swastikas and screaming, I'm sure that will change something ;-) .

paper halo
08/07/09, 01:37 PM
So is Obama a Socialist, or a Nazi? I lose track of these derranged rantings.

Machu505
08/07/09, 01:48 PM
Barack Obama is a communist Nazi Muslim atheist who is in a gay relationship with Jeremiah Wright.

paper halo
08/07/09, 01:51 PM
Oh, well that's ok, I'm a Marxist atheist baby-killing liberal myself.

Mercy Medical
08/07/09, 02:27 PM
Barack Obama is a communist Nazi Muslim atheist who is in a gay relationship with Jeremiah Wright.
Hahahahahaha

Justin_stacy
08/07/09, 02:52 PM
You know who's responsible for astroturfing these protests? THE RICH RULING CLASS.

It's almost as if you inhabit a separate reality from the rest of us.

:yawn:

J.C.
08/07/09, 03:01 PM
:yawn:

Quality rebuttal.

Justin_stacy
08/07/09, 03:06 PM
Quality rebuttal.

If you prefer i can type out 'yawn' for you. Either way works for me.

J.C.
08/07/09, 03:07 PM
If you prefer i can type out 'yawn' for you. Either way works for me.

Quality rebuttal.

Justin_stacy
08/07/09, 03:11 PM
Quality rebuttal.

:bow: ?

Codi23
08/07/09, 04:13 PM
Barack Obama is a communist Nazi Muslim atheist who is in a gay relationship with Jeremiah Wright.

Don't forget; he was born in Kenya!

His Hawaiian birth certificate is a fake ;-) .

Manicapathy
08/07/09, 04:31 PM
http://christopherfountain.files.wordpress .com/2009/06/bush_nazi_hitler.jpghttp://blogs.citypages.com/gop/Obama%20nazi-thumb.bmp (http://christopherfountain.files.wordpress .com/2009/06/bush_nazi_hitler.jpg)


To quote OK GO "Here it goes again!"