Town Halls Become Locales for Inane Venting and Protests

[saysmydoctor]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/06/tampa-town-hall-on-health_n_253478.html

I'm waiting for an apology from the GOP establishment to Madame Secretary Napolitano, thanks.

[TheFaceOfZach]

And you assume that everyone who opposes Health Care reform are all Republicans?

It's been proven that some of those people who have been caught on video lashing out on Democratic Senators and Representatives are actually registered democrats.

Also the Huffington Post is more bias than Fox News/MSNBC/CNN/ABC/CBS combined in terms of bias.

[Machu505]

I sure hope Rep. Capito has a town hall meeting sometime soon so I can go there and get rowdy.

[saysmydoctor]

And you assume that everyone who opposes Health Care reform are all Republicans?

It's been proven that some of those people who have been caught on video lashing out on Democratic Senators and Representatives are actually registered democrats.

Also the Huffington Post is more bias than Fox News/MSNBC/CNN/ABC/CBS combined in terms of bias.
1. That's not what I was assuming. I am actually talking more about the Homeland Security report that the GOP demanded to be squelched because it implied that right wing anger would become a problem in the future.

2. I don't care.

3. Question the information, not the source.

[Machu505]

And you assume that everyone who opposes Health Care reform are all Republicans?

It's been proven that some of those people who have been caught on video lashing out on Democratic Senators and Representatives are actually registered democrats.

Also the Huffington Post is more bias than Fox News/MSNBC/CNN/ABC/CBS combined in terms of bias.
What are you even trying to say? In no way is Sean saying that everyone who is opposed to the health care bill is a Republican. He's making reference to the criticism Sec. Napolitano received from Republicans for issuing a report saying right-wing terrorism is on the rise. This, plus the Dr. Tiller's murder, are evidence of the aforementioned report's validity.

[saysmydoctor]

You wanna know what makes this video ironic?

Numerous of these rowdy protesters came prepared with cameras, meaning the hocus pocus was all coordinated. SO PREDICTABLE.

[peder458]

You wanna know what makes this video ironic?

Numerous of these rowdy protesters came prepared with cameras, meaning the hocus pocus was all coordinated. SO PREDICTABLE.

strange how the opposition manifests as interrupting the spread of information and quieting any debate that might have actually happened at these meetings. just stunning how this is seriously a strategy...

[Praetor]

I actually saw one protester grill Rep. Maffei for not supporting a single-payer system, haha. Still, this is craziness.

[Justin_stacy]

I'm going to Dennis Moore (D-R3 Kan) community meeting when its announced here, alot of these democrats in moderate/conservative area's have alot of explaining to do. Moore's a good man, but he's lost sight of his district. But I want to hear him out even if he's probably lost my vote forever due to his support of the Energy Tax Bill.

But I can't imagine it getting as out of control as those recent youtube videos or the idiot liberal protests of the bush years. I just don't see that happening here.

[Animalhill]

I'm going to Dennis Moore (D-R3 Kan) community meeting when its announced here, alot of these democrats in moderate/conservative area's have alot of explaining to do. Moore's a good man, but he's lost sight of his district.

But I can't imagine it getting as out of control as those recent youtube videos or the idiot liberal protests of the bush years. I just don't see that happening here.
Given the hole that Mr Bush placed us in, would you not now agree that such protests were justified?

[wesgemm08]

I'm going to Dennis Moore (D-R3 Kan) community meeting when its announced here, alot of these democrats in moderate/conservative area's have alot of explaining to do. Moore's a good man, but he's lost sight of his district. But I want to hear him out even if he's probably lost my vote forever due to his support of the Energy Tax Bill.

But I can't imagine it getting as out of control as those recent youtube videos or the idiot liberal protests of the bush years. I just don't see that happening here.

Yea, all those idiots protesting an unjust war...

[Justin_stacy]

Given the hole that Mr Bush placed us in, would you not now agree that such protests were justified?
But on that same token these people are merely 'protesting' trying to stop Mr Obama from digging us into a deep hole. Its all circular.

My issue isn't with protesting per se, but the antics of those protesting. I've never lost more respect for a particular group than I did after seeing the so-called 'anti-war' protesters 'protesting' in downtown KC. It was pretty sad seeing them turn a valid political argument into a circus act.

[Animalhill]

But on that same token these people are merely 'protesting' trying to stop Mr Obama from digging us into a deep hole. Its all circular.

My issue isn't with protesting per se, but the antics of those protesting. I've never lost more respect for a particular group than I did after seeing the so-called 'anti-war' protesters 'protesting' in downtown KC. It was pretty sad seeing them turn a valid political argument into a circus act.
I'm pretty sure that's just what happens when a large amount of humans congregate for a similar reason/grievance.
EDIT: Regardless of their party affiliation.

[macabre]

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[wrppdarndyrfngr]

let's see who is funding these astroturf groups:


Oil and Gas Industries Fuel Unruly Townhall Meetings (http://mediamattersaction.org/factcheck/200908060005)


August 06, 2009 2:00 pm ET During the congressional recess, Democratic lawmakers have been facing unruly mobs at town hall meetings in their districts. However, the protestors' outrage has been largely manufactured by front groups tied to the oil and energy industries.


FreedomWorks

FreedomWorks Released An August Recess Action Kit. On August 5, 2009, FreedomWorks released its August Recess Action Kit and encouraged people to "find a town hall meeting near you." Chairman Dick Armey wrote: "We've provided an August Recess Action Kit for you packed with good talking points, important questions, handouts to invite friends to attend events with you, and other helpful resources. Thank you in advance for doing your part. Congresswoman Pelosi will know soon enough that August isn't like any other month, August is when the grassroots took a stand once and for all." [FreedomWorks.org, 8/5/09 (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomworks .org%2Ffiles%2Faug%2520action%2520k it.pdf)]
As Media Matters Action Network noted, FreedomWorks' Action Kit is full of false talking points about cap-and-trade (http://mediamattersaction.org/factcheck/200908060004) and health insurance reform (http://mediamattersaction.org/factcheck/200908060003).
FreedomWorks Has A List Of Town Hall Meetings Over The Recess. FreedomWorks published a list of town halls, stating, Here is your chance to attend a town hall meeting in your area and tell your elected officials: NO CAP AND TAX -- NO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!" [Google Maps, accessed 8/6/09 (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fmaps.google.com% 2Fmaps%2Fms%3Fie%3DUTF8%26hl%3Den%2 6vps%3D1%26jsv%3D169c%26oe%3DUTF8%2 6msa%3D0%26msid%3D10830299376151802 9882.00046fc5540de79b68126)]

FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey Has Strong Ties To The Energy Industry

FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey Serves As A Lobbyist With DLA Piper. Former Congressman Dick Armey is currently employed by DLA Piper, a Washington lobbying firm. [DLA Piper, accessed 4/16/09 (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dlapiper.com %2Fdick_armey%2F)]
DLA Piper Clients Include Several Energy Corporations. According to the federal lobbying disclosure database, past and current DLA Piper clients include:

Alliant Energy Corporation
American Council of Life Insurers
American Financial Group
American Insurance Association
AIG
BP America
Bristol-Myers Squibb
China Chamber of Commerce
Clarendon Insurance Group
Constellation Energy Group
Dubai Group
DuPont Corporation
Edison Electric
Emirates Investment and Development
First Kuwaiti General Trading & Contracting Company
General Motors
Goldman Sachs & Co.
Irving Oil
Lehman Bros. Inc.
Merrill Lynch
Residential Loan Centers of America
TransGas Energy
Vitas Healthcare Corporation
Washington Group International
World Fuel Services Corporation[Senate Lobbying Disclosure Act Database, accessed 4/16/09]

While In Congress, Armey Received Over $245,000 From The Oil & Gas Industry. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the oil and gas industry contributed $246,900 to Dick Armey while he was in Congress, more than any other industry. [OpenSecrets.org, accessed 8/6/09 (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opensecrets. org%2Fpoliticians%2Findustries.php% 3Fcycle%3DCareer%26cid%3DN00005638% 26type%3DI)]

Americans For Prosperity

Americans For Prosperity Is "Deeply Involved" In Protests. As reported by the Boston Globe, "Conservative activist groups are deeply involved. A leading example is Americans for Prosperity, whose sister foundation is chaired by David H. Koch - a billionaire whose family made a fortune in oil production and whom Forbes magazine in March ranked as the world's 19th richest person - and which also coordinated the 'tea parties' in April protesting Obama's 'irresponsible' economic policies. The groups are running millions of dollars of television ads and have sent a bus across America to stir up sentiment against revamping healthcare. Its website lists town hall meetings planned by Democratic lawmakers to help activists find a venue for protest."

Americans For Prosperity President Tim Phillips Is Encouraging Members To Attend Town halls. Tim Phillips, president of Americans for Prosperity, wrote on the group's website: "Americans for Prosperity has always encouraged members to visit the district offices and attend town hall meetings of their senators and representatives, especially during this August break when issues like health care and cap-and-trade are at the peak of debate. Our 500,000+ members are concerned about the impact of the cap-and-trade energy tax and a government takeover of health care, and we have a variety of grassroots events going on around the country." [AmericansForProsperity.org, 8/3/09 (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americansfor prosperity.org%2F080309-visit-your-representatives-and-senators); emphasis added]
"Americans For Prosperity Of Koch Industries"

Americans For Prosperity Has Strong Connections To Koch Industries. In a post titled "Americans For Prosperity Of Koch Industries," The Wonk Room wrote: "The group isn't just funded by an industry CEO, it was planted by one. David Koch, Executive Vice-President of family-founded multi-national conglomerate Koch Industries, is a founder of AFP and a financial supporter through the family-controlled and company-financed Claude R. Lambe Foundation. Koch Industries, Inc. and its sister company, Koch Holdings, LLC, own a group of companies invested in refineries, chemicals, minerals and so on." [The Wonk Room, 7/27/08 (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwonkroom.thinkpr ogress.org%2F2008%2F07%2F27%2Fkoch-hot-air%2F)]

[B]Koch Industry Is "An Estimated $90 Billion Conglomerate With Oil And Gas Holdings." In 2007, the Boston Herald described Koch Industries as "an estimated $90 billion conglomerate with oil and gas holdings." [Boston Herald, 10/10/07]
Koch Industries Is One Of The Largest Private Companies In America. According to its website, "Koch Industries is one of the largest private companies in America, according to Forbes magazine [It was ranked #1 in 2006]. Based in Wichita, Kan., Koch Industries owns companies involved in refining and chemicals; process and pollution control equipment and technologies; minerals and fertilizers; polymers and fibers; commodity and financial trading and services; and forest and consumer products. With approximately $100 billion in revenue, Koch companies have a presence in nearly 60 countries and employ about 70,000 people." [KochInd.com, accessed 8/6/09 (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kochind.com% 2F); Forbes.com, 11/8/07 (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2 Flists%2F2007%2F21%2Fbiz_privates07 _Koch-Industries_VMZQ.html)]
American Solutions For Winning The Future

Newt Gingrich's American Solutions For Winning The Future has been one of the biggest players in the fight against cap-and-trade. The organization has run ads (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.abcnews.co m%2Fthenote%2F2009%2F06%2Fgingrichs -group-takes-on-capandtrade-in-tv-ad.html) against the bill and provided talking points for conservatives to call members of Congress (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americansolu tions.com%2Ftake-action%2F2009%2F06%2Fcall-your-member-of-congress-tell-them-to-stop-the-energy-tax.php), while Gingrich has been a constant public face of opposition.
American Solutions For Winning The Future Is Funded By The Largest Coal Company In The World. According to the Center for Public Integrity, "The world's largest coal company and one of the nation's top fossil-fueled power companies are among the leading donors so far this year to Newt Gingrich's political advocacy group, which has been fighting climate legislation on Capitol Hill with a 'Stop the Energy Tax' phone-in campaign to Senate offices. Peabody Energy, the St. Louis-based coal giant, gave $250,000 to American Solutions for Winning the Future in February, putting it atop the Gingrich-led group's big contributors for the first half of 2009, according to the nonprofit's newly filed report at the Internal Revenue Service. Peabody also gave American Solutions the same amount in 2008. The firm's chief executive, Greg Boyce, has publicly expressed doubts about global warming, so it is not entirely surprising that Peabody would support an issues advocacy group that is going all-out against the climate bill." [Center for Public Integrity, 8/5/09 (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.publicintegr ity.org%2Fblog%2Fentry%2F1599%2F); emphasis added]
American Solutions For Winning The Future Received Nearly $500,000 From Oil Interests In The First Half Of 2009. As reported by Politico, "Newt Gingrich's political group quietly pulled in an impressive $8.1 million in the first half of the year, a cash haul that enabled the former Speaker of the House to finance a robust political operation that includes at least 17 employees. A report filed Friday with the Internal Revenue Service shows that American Solutions for Winning the Future accepted at least $460,000 from oil interests in the first half of the year, after advancing offshore oil drilling as an issue during the 2008 campaign cycle." [Politico, 8/1/09 (http://mediamattersaction.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politico.com %2Fnews%2Fstories%2F0709%2F25666.ht ml); emphasis added]

[saysmydoctor]

Newt Gingrich's American Solutions is the biggest fucking mindfuck political organization in the country. The epitome of "drill baby drill" politics. Fuck him. The world would be better off if that man choked on one of the twinkies he has clearly consumed over time. And I rarely wish death upon another person, but jesus christ. Biggest hypocrite in the Republican establishment. Fuck you. Go have sex with one of your interns at your piece of shit neocon thinktank.

/ragerant

[GeeBee]

Newt Gingrich's American Solutions is the biggest fucking mindfuck political organization in the country. The epitome of "drill baby drill" politics. Fuck him. The world would be better off if that man choked on one of the twinkies he has clearly consumed over time. And I rarely wish death upon another person, but jesus christ. Biggest hypocrite in the Republican establishment. Fuck you. Go have sex with one of your interns at your piece of shit neocon thinktank.

/ragerant

:-d Love these rants.

[Justin_stacy]

Newt Gingrich's American Solutions is the biggest fucking mindfuck political organization in the country. The epitome of "drill baby drill" politics. Fuck him. The world would be better off if that man choked on one of the twinkies he has clearly consumed over time. And I rarely wish death upon another person, but jesus christ. Biggest hypocrite in the Republican establishment. Fuck you. Go have sex with one of your interns at your piece of shit neocon thinktank.

/ragerant

:-d

He does write some good alterntive history novels, though.

[SpacePunk]

let's see who is funding these astroturf groups: "As Media Matters Action Network noted..."

Media Matters???

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/1984_themovie.PNG

[open mind]

the established power structure is doing it's best to spread misinformation, and lower the level of public debate in the hopes of defeating (or just neutering) reform?

as for the protesters....i'll never fully understand those who rage for the machine.

[saysmydoctor]

Media Matters???

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/1984_themovie.PNG
You are fucking stupid. Really, look at what you posted, and think about it. Go to your room, sit on your bed and contemplate the lack of intellect behind this stupid reference that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. We'll wait here for you to apologize for having posted something stupid.

[saysmydoctor]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/gabrielle-giffords-town-h_n_255656.html
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/printDS/304149

I'm seriously waiting for a GOP apology to Secretary Napolitano. Nothing in that report was wrong. Nothing.

[SpacePunk]

You are fucking stupid. Really, look at what you posted, and think about it. Go to your room, sit on your bed and contemplate the lack of intellect behind this stupid reference that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. We'll wait here for you to apologize for having posted something stupid.


In May 2004, the New York Times reported that Media Matters has received "more than $2 million in donations from wealthy liberals" and "was developed with help from the newly formed Center For American Progress.

Its President and Chief Executive Officer is former lobbyist John Podesta, who served as Chief of Staff to then US President Bill Clinton.

Citing the significant number of its current staff and former staff that have been appointed to positions in the Obama Administration, Time Magazine recently declared that there is "no group in Washington with more influence at this moment in history."



For lots of reasons, Media Matters - and several other media outlets - could be considered part of the current administration's "Ministry of Truth".. even if that would be hard for a smug, far-left loony like you to swallow.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

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[My Broken Fever]

In May 2004, the New York Times reported that Media Matters has received "more than $2 million in donations from wealthy liberals" and "was developed with help from the newly formed Center For American Progress.

Its President and Chief Executive Officer is former lobbyist John Podesta, who served as Chief of Staff to then US President Bill Clinton.

Citing the significant number of its current staff and former staff that have been appointed to positions in the Obama Administration, Time Magazine recently declared that there is "no group in Washington with more influence at this moment in history."



For lots of reasons, Media Matters - and several other media outlets - could be considered part of the current administration's "Ministry of Truth".. even if that would be hard for a smug, far-left loony like you to swallow. I don't see how that is different form the Conservative multi-billionaires funding the anti-healthcare campaign. For instance FOX is far, far, far worse than any liberal tv-station in the US will ever be. And to draw a parallel between the Ministry of Truth and Media Matters you have to be faaaar gone.

[SpacePunk]

I don't see how that is different form the Conservative multi-billionaires funding the anti-healthcare campaign.


I agree.

[My Broken Fever]

I agree. So what is your point exactly? Almost all media outlets are biased one way or the other, some more severe than others. But none of them even midly compare to something like a ministery of truth, try a North-Korean news-show then you know what a Ministery of Truth is.

[Praetor]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/gabrielle-giffords-town-h_n_255656.html
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/printDS/304149

I'm seriously waiting for a GOP apology to Secretary Napolitano. Nothing in that report was wrong. Nothing.
People claiming that that report was offensive are wrong for so many reasons.

1) No claims of ideological bias can be made, since there was a report about left-wing terrorism as well.
2) It came true.
3) People don't understand that the 'right wing' extends far beyond Republicans. People need to stop thinking of the American political spectrum as the be-all-end-all of world politics.
Stewart makes me mad whenever he has conservatives on there. He almost always softballs them and I always expect a beatdown.
Yep.
But yet in the same motion, through the debate, Jon Stewart made Kristol and Bolton look like idiots.
Kristol, yeah. Bolton, no.

[saysmydoctor]

In May 2004, the New York Times reported that Media Matters has received "more than $2 million in donations from wealthy liberals" and "was developed with help from the newly formed Center For American Progress.

Its President and Chief Executive Officer is former lobbyist John Podesta, who served as Chief of Staff to then US President Bill Clinton.

Citing the significant number of its current staff and former staff that have been appointed to positions in the Obama Administration, Time Magazine recently declared that there is "no group in Washington with more influence at this moment in history."



For lots of reasons, Media Matters - and several other media outlets - could be considered part of the current administration's "Ministry of Truth".. even if that would be hard for a smug, far-left loony like you to swallow.
You haven't made a point.

And, ad hominem.

[Machu505]

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/97874/thumbs/s-TOWN-HALLS-large.jpg

[Praetor]

Anus? What is he, four years old?

[saysmydoctor]

lol anus funny word

[Praetor]

Quick, put up a counter-sign. Call him a doodyface times infinity. No tagbacks.

[Josh Weinstein]

The Onion posted this 2 year old article (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/town_hall_meeting_gives) on its front page in the wake of all of these health reform protests. As a former newspaper reporter, I can attest that townsfolk get really passionate when speaking to local government / national representatives. I just get a kick out of some of the ignorant things they say.

[boysandbulletsx]

Yea, all those idiots protesting an unjust war...
If you're going to look at it that way, then I don't see how people protesting the health care plan is any different. We have to admit that a lot of war protesters engaged in unruly behavior in the same way these health care protesters are doing. Protesting in an idiotic manner is idiotic.

[Machu505]

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/2396/slide_2396_31511_large.jpg

Oh look, someone advertising a shitty band using racist imagery.

[paper halo]

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/98562/thumbs/s-NH-large.jpg

Oh look, someone advertising a shitty band using racist imagery.

I like how he had to edit his sign (presumably after someone told him what he was there to protest against).

[Machu505]

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/2396/slide_2396_31504_large.jpg

Beck/Coulter 2012.

[paper halo]

Beck/Coulter 2012.

Oh hai, apocalypse.

[paper halo]

Did you just type 'moron' into google image search?

[Machu505]

lol. They're from the Huffington Post.

[GeeBee]

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/2396/slide_2396_31504_large.jpg

Beck/Coulter 2012.

Chick stuffed Beck and Coulter into her bra.

[Justin_stacy]

god I love these....

http://www.breitbart.tv/06-flashback-pelosi-tells-anti-war-protesters-im-a-fan-of-disruptors/

how unamerican of her.

[GeeBee]

Pelosi is a politician first, a democrat second.

[saysmydoctor]

I'm not seeing the similarity, but then again I rarely grasp at straws.

[Justin_stacy]

color me shocked.

[GeeBee]

color me shocked.

Andrew Breitbart was on Bill Maher awhile back. A bigger bumbling fool I've never seen. And I've seen Ron Paul interviewed, so that's saying alot.

I'm no fan of Nancy Pelosi...but you're doing nothing to further the conversation by making potshots at her. I'm a liberal, and even I agree she's an easy target.

[GeeBee]

Also, protests on Bush's war which was BASED ON LIES, and protests BASED ON LIES against healthcare are two different things.

[saysmydoctor]

Also, protests on Bush's war which was BASED ON LIES, and protests BASED ON LIES against healthcare are two different things.
Thank you, I would have thought this was so blatantly obvious, we wouldn't have to address. Color me stupid for thinking otherwise, I forgot we're talking about the neocons.

[J.C.]

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/2396/slide_2396_31504_large.jpg

Beck/Coulter 2012.

I support the invasion of Thatraq.

[GeeBee]

I support the invasion of Thatraq.

:-d
Looks like you'll be greeted as a liberator!

[Codi23]

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/2396/slide_2396_31504_large.jpg

Beck/Coulter 2012.

Not a good protest sign when you have to squint to read it...

I support the invasion of Thatraq.

:clap: yay!

[Midget Pirates]

Yea, all those idiots protesting an unjust war...

yeah idiots.

http://www.zombietime.com/us_out_of_iraq_now_sf_3-18-2007/IMG_2416.JPG

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/wp-content/images2009/saveearthkillbush.jpg

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/wp-content/images2009/Bush_is_the_disease.jpg

UP THA PUNX

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/wp-content/images2009/imheretokillbush.jpg

peaceful protester

[Midget Pirates]

Obamas White House is the biggest fucking mindfuck political organization in the country. The epitome of "Chicago" politics. Fuck him. The world would be better off if that man choked on one of the twinkies he has clearly consumed over time. And I rarely wish death upon another person, but jesus christ. Biggest hypocrite in the Democratic establishment. Fuck you. Go have sex with one of your interns at your piece of shit liberal thinktanks.

end rant

[paper halo]

Obamas White House is the biggest fucking mindfuck political organization in the country. The epitome of "Chicago" politics. Fuck him. The world would be better off if that man choked on one of the twinkies he has clearly consumed over time. And I rarely wish death upon another person, but jesus christ. Biggest hypocrite in the Democratic establishment. Fuck you. Go have sex with one of your interns at your piece of shit liberal thinktanks.

end rant

I know the thread is about inane ranting, but it's not a requirement of posting.

Also, isn't your desire for Obama to die massively hypocritical given the post preceeding this one? You know, the one where you called protesters, who wished death upon Bush, idiots.

[Midget Pirates]

I know the thread is about inane ranting, but it's not a requirement of posting.

you didn't call it inane on the first page of this thread now did you? I wonder why.

[Midget Pirates]

Also, isn't your desire for Obama to die massively hypocritical given the post preceeding this one?

might want to reread thread from beginning.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

lol what the hell are you talking sbout?

[paper halo]

you didn't call it inane on the first page of this thread now did you? I wonder why.

Didin't call what inane? What exactly are you talking about?

might want to reread thread from beginning.

You might want to re-read your own posts.

[Midget Pirates]

Newt Gingrich's American Solutions is the biggest fucking mindfuck political organization in the country. The epitome of "drill baby drill" politics. Fuck him. The world would be better off if that man choked on one of the twinkies he has clearly consumed over time. And I rarely wish death upon another person, but jesus christ. Biggest hypocrite in the Republican establishment. Fuck you. Go have sex with one of your interns at your piece of shit neocon thinktank.

/ragerant

^^^^^

funny you didn't have a problem with this.

[Gardenhead]

I fully support the angry protesting. Maybe it will make Obama realize that change isn't something everyone is going to be ready for and, as our leader, he needs to drag us with him, whether we're all ready or not.

[paper halo]

^^^^^

funny you didn't have a problem with this.

That actually made sense in the context it was posted. And contains actual truth.

[Machu505]

Newt Gingrich is an incredibly evil man.

[Midget Pirates]

That actually made sense in the context it was posted. And contains actual truth.

Newt Gingrich is an incredibly evil man.

oh I see the context. I must have missed that context where it's ok to wish death upon a prominent republican figure. It's ok because he's EVIL. right?

how tolerant of you.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

Newt Gingrich's American Solutions is the biggest fucking mindfuck political organization in the country. The epitome of "drill baby drill" politics. Fuck him. The world would be better off if that man choked on one of the twinkies he has clearly consumed over time. And I rarely wish death upon another person, but jesus christ. Biggest hypocrite in the Republican establishment. Fuck you. Go have sex with one of your interns at your piece of shit neocon thinktank.

/ragerant

Obamas White House is the biggest fucking mindfuck political organization in the country. The epitome of "Chicago" politics. Fuck him. The world would be better off if that man choked on one of the twinkies he has clearly consumed over time. And I rarely wish death upon another person, but jesus christ. Biggest hypocrite in the Democratic establishment. Fuck you. Go have sex with one of your interns at your piece of shit liberal thinktanks.

end rant



^^^^^

funny you didn't have a problem with this.

funny that you alomst copied his rant word for word except for doing a "find and replace " inserting Obama for Newt.

rants are funny if they are original. stop trolling and ripping people off.

[Midget Pirates]

funny that you alomst copied his rant word for word except for doing a "find and replace " inserting Obama for Newt.

rants are funny if they are original. stop trolling and ripping people off.

how dense are you? there is a reason I copied the rant almost word for word. let's see if you can figure it out. hint: double standard.

[Machu505]

I'm not wishing death on Newt Gingrich. I'm merely commenting on his stupidity and obvious lack of a soul.

[paper halo]

oh I see the context. I must have missed that context where it's ok to wish death upon a prominent republican figure. It's ok because he's EVIL. right?

how tolerant of you.

Where did I say it was ok, you utter moron? I only mentioned it in reference to your earlier post, in order to call you a hypocrite. In the original post, that you cleverly quoted and edited, it was clearly a rant, not to be taken entirely seriously. I would have thought the same of your copy, were it not for the preceeding post.

Jebus.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

how dense are you? there is a reason I copied the rant almost word for word. let's see if you can figure it out. hint: double standard.

how is plagerizing someone a double standard?

hint: you are an idiot.

[Midget Pirates]

how is plagerizing someone a double standard?

hint: you are an idiot.

the "plagerizing" was done for a reason. still scratching your head? keep thinking.

[paper halo]

how dense are you? there is a reason I copied the rant almost word for word. let's see if you can figure it out. hint: double standard.

The original rant made sense. Yours did not. The original rant was not preceeded by a claim, by the same poster, that wishing death on a political figure was idiotic. NO ONE SERIOUSLY WISHES DEATH ON NEWT GINGRICH. Therefore, there is no double standard.

Is it really that difficult?

[Midget Pirates]

Where did I say it was ok, you utter moron? I only mentioned it in reference to your earlier post, in order to call you a hypocrite. In the original post, that you cleverly quoted and edited, it was clearly a rant, not to be taken entirely seriously. I would have thought the same of your copy, were it not for the preceeding post.

Jebus.

really you woul'dve thought the same of my copy?

I know the thread is about inane ranting, but it's not a requirement of posting.

Also, isn't your desire for Obama to die massivelyhypocritical given the post preceeding this one? You know, the one where you called protesters, who wished death upon Bush, idiots.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

the "plagerizing" was done for a reason. still scratching your head? keep thinking.

Please explain to me how you posting a "rant" copied form someone else's words is a double standard?

[Midget Pirates]

The original rant made sense. Yours did not. The original rant was not preceeded by a claim, by the same poster, that wishing death on a political figure was idiotic. NO ONE SERIOUSLY WISHES DEATH ON NEWT GINGRICH. Therefore, there is no double standard.

Is it really that difficult?

your going to have to tell me the context. He said he wanted him to choke on his twinkie and die. how is that ok? to me that isn't ok in any context. nor is it funny in any context either.

[Midget Pirates]

Please explain to me how you posting a "rant" copied form someone else's words is a double standard?

you're focusing on the wrong thing. start thinking about why I copied it word for word. when you figure that out, start focusing on the double standard again.

[paper halo]

really you woul'dve thought the same of my copy?

Yes. You just quoted and highlighted the end of my sentence and then ignored it, you fucking idiot. I would have assumed it was not serious, were it not for your preceeding post. The original post did not display blatant hypocrisy, and so I said nothing about it.

Are we there yet?

[Midget Pirates]

neither of you seem to be grasping it. can someone else explain it to them?

[paper halo]

your going to have to tell me the context. He said he wanted him to choke on his twinkie and die. how is that ok? to me that isn't ok in any context. nor is it funny in any context either.

Unless you're using it to point out the liberal double-standard right?

Okay, are you watching? IT WAS CLEARLY NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. Even if it was, that is irrelevant because I drew attention to your post for it's hypocrisy, not for saying you wanted someone to choke.

[paper halo]

neither of you seem to be grasping it. can someone else explain it to them?

We get your point, but it fails because it's based on a rant that was intended to appear excessively aggressive and amusingly irate.

That you keep failing to get this simple point is pretty astounding.

[Midget Pirates]

Unless you're using it to point out the liberal double-standard right?

Okay, are you watching? IT WAS CLEARLY NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. Even if it was, that is irrelevant because I drew attantion to your post for it's hypocrisy, not for saying you wanted someone to choke.

what hypocrisy? I don't want anyone to choke.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

you're focusing on the wrong thing. start thinking about why I copied it word for word. when you figure that out, start focusing on the double standard again.

a double standard :"any code or set of principles containing different provisions for one group of people than for another"


congrats! you proved that you can post an opposing view point to a single post .

noone stopped or discouraged you from doing so .

therefore you just undermined your own point.

there are no codes here saying you cant post opposing views. you are free to post whatever you want. you are also open to critism and debate.

if you point was to prove that this forum is overwhelemingly liberal then horray captian obvious ! this a politcs forum on a "punk" website. what were you expecting neocons?

If you did not like what he said about Newt than quote him and tell him.

[Midget Pirates]

We get your point, but it fails because it's based on a rant that was intended to appear excessively aggressive and amusingly irate.

That you keep failing to get this simple point is pretty astounding.

my point is that is that it is NOT ok to rant like that. It is not funny nor tolerant. and to be honest with you, I actually believe there was some truth in his rant.

and this goes for both sides. People have every right to complain if someone rants like that against Obama. They should. However, we should hold the same standard when people rant like that against republicans too. too many times, it is funny when it is done against republicans, but if someone did that against a democrat it is likely coined as hateful or racist.

[paper halo]

what hypocrisy? I don't want anyone to choke.

:wallbash:

YOU COPIED A RANT AND CHANGED IT TO SAY THAT YOU WANT OBAMA TO CHOKE. I had not read through the thread recently enough to know it was copied, so I called you out.

I'm done arguing with you. You're either a troll or a massive moron.

For the last time, it would only be a double standard if the original post were meant to be taken seriously and it's poster were to attack your post on the same grounds. Otherwise, this double standard you are desperately clinging to, does not exist.

[Midget Pirates]

a double standard :"any code or set of principles containing different provisions for one group of people than for another"


congrats! you proved that you can post an opposing view point to a single post .

noone stopped or discouraged you from doing so .

therefore you just undermined your own point.

there are no codes here saying you cant post opposing views. you are free to post whatever you want. you are also open to critism and debate.

if you point was to prove that this forum is overwhelemingly liberal then horray captian obvious ! this a politcs forum on a "punk" website. what were you expecting neocons?

If you did not like what he said about Newt than quote him and tell him.

at least Paper Halo got what I was trying to do. although we may disagree, I think he gets it.

[Midget Pirates]

:wallbash:

YOU COPIED A RANT AND CHANGED IT TO SAY THAT YOU WANT OBAMA TO CHOKE. I had not read through the thread recently enough to know it was copied, so I called you out.

I'm done arguing with you. You're either a troll or a massive moron.

For the last time, it would only be a double standard if the original post were meant to be taken seriously and it's poster were to attack your post on the same grounds. Otherwise, this double standard you are desperately claiming does not exist.

wow, I thought you were on the right track. It's not hypocrisy because I DO NOT ACTUALLY want Obama to choke. That's not how I feel. I used saysmydoctors words to prove a point that it is ok to make hateful remarks like that against republicans, but not against democrats. there is no hypocrisy because those weren't my WORDS. I couldn't live with myself if I made such hateful comments about any politician.

[paper halo]

my point is that is that it is NOT ok to rant like that. It is not funny nor tolerant. and to be honest with you, I actually believe there was some truth in his rant.

and this goes for both sides. People have every right to complain if someone rants like that against Obama. They should. However, we should hold the same standard when people rant like that against republicans too. too many times, it is funny when it is done against republicans, but if someone did that against a democrat it is likely coined as hateful or racist.

I see your point. But you are trying to apply your perception of a double standard to the whole board. You're going to see partisan ranting on this site, same with anywhere. I suggest you make peace with it. If you really want to talk about that post, take it up with it's original poster, not with the rest of us.

[paper halo]

wow, I thought you were on the right track. It's not hypocrisy because I DO NOT ACTUALLY want Obama to choke. That's not how I feel. I used saysmydoctors words to prove a point that it is ok to make hateful remarks like that against republicans, but not against democrats. there is no hypocrisy because those weren't my WORDS. I couldn't live with myself if I made such hateful comments about any politician.

Yes, I know. But I did not know you were parodying someone else's post at that time and so saw it as hypocrisy. There is a left slant to the posters on this site, it is to be expected that most will dissagree with Republicans on the majority of issues.

[saysmydoctor]

I'm soooooo controversial.

I also standby what I said. Newt Gingrich's ideology is an impediment for equality in this nation and the world and people in general would be far better off without him.

Also, he had a legitimate sex scandal and no such thing has ever even be mentioned concerning Obama.

[Midget Pirates]

I'm soooooo controversial.

I also standby what I said. Newt Gingrich's ideology is an impediment for equality in this nation and the world and people in general would be far better off without him.

Also, he had a legitimate sex scandal and no such thing has ever even be mentioned concerning Obama.

so concerning people with similar conservative ideologies, do you wish the same to them that you do to Newt?

[saysmydoctor]

so concerning people with similar conservative ideologies, do you wish the same to them that you do to Newt?
It was clearly a figure of speech that you were stupid enough to take seriously. Problematic thing of just jumping into conversations here is a lot of us post quite regularly (I'd say about 1/3 my posts stem from participation in this forum) so we all know each other's temperaments. I don't truly wish death upon Newt Gingrich or George Bush or etc. I'm just not going to be distraught with sadness, I won't care, I won't shed a tear, and I probably would rejoice because such mouthpieces of such a wicked ideology, that is far more Orwellian or fascist than Obama (the conservatives are working directly for the health insurance companies--they are supporting the corporatist agenda--you can't get much more fascist than that when in the same breath you are working to suppress the the proletariat), are gone.

So, if you are looking for an apology, I'm sorry for implying I want Gingrich to die. I don't want him to die nor do I wish it upon him. But when he does, I'd like part of his ideology to die with him and I want his relevance to evaporate.

[GeeBee]

neither of you seem to be grasping it. can someone else explain it to them?
No. You're the only one who apparently "gets" your idiocy.
at least Paper Halo got what I was trying to do. although we may disagree, I think he gets it.
No. No he didn't. No one does. It's moronic trolling.
so concerning people with similar conservative ideologies, do you wish the same to them that you do to Newt?
Hypocrites are hypocrites are hypocrites. We'd be better without them. End story.

[GeeBee]

It was clearly a figure of speech that you were stupid enough to take seriously. Problematic thing of just jumping into conversations here is a lot of us post quite regularly (I'd say about 1/3 my posts stem from participation in this forum) so we all know each other's temperaments. I don't truly wish death upon Newt Gingrich or George Bush or etc. I'm just not going to be distraught with sadness, I won't care, I won't shed a tear, and I probably would rejoice because such mouthpieces of such a wicked ideology, that is far more Orwellian or fascist than Obama (the conservatives are working directly for the health insurance companies--they are supporting the corporatist agenda--you can't get much more fascist than that when in the same breath you are working to suppress the the proletariat), are gone.

So, if you are looking for an apology, I'm sorry for implying I want Gingrich to die. I don't want him to die nor do I wish it upon him. But when he does, I'd like part of his ideology to die with him and I want his relevance to evaporate.

Now make sure you KEEP using this tone for EVERY post from now on so idiot newcomers don't accidentally take your tongue out of your cheek and perceive you as making death threats!
:-d

[Midget Pirates]

yeah it sucks being the "idiot" newcomer.

[GeeBee]

yeah it sucks being the "idiot" newcomer.

Hence the importance of knowing what you're getting into before diving headlong into a thread, guns a'blazin'. But that IS the conservative modus operandi in most cases...come in shouting and shooting...even if they don't know what the fuck they're even talking about.

[Animalhill]

your going to have to tell me the context. He said he wanted him to choke on his twinkie and die. how is that ok? to me that isn't ok in any context. nor is it funny in any context either.
On the contrary, that would be fucking hilarious. I would pay money to watch it happen in person.

[Midget Pirates]

No. You're the only one who apparently "gets" your idiocy.

No. No he didn't. No one does. It's moronic trolling.

Hypocrites are hypocrites are hypocrites. We'd be better without them. End story.

Hence the importance of knowing what you're getting into before diving headlong into a thread, guns a'blazin'. But that IS the conservative modus operandi in most cases...come in shouting and shooting...even if they don't know what the fuck they're even talking about.

wow I'm clearly in over my head. I had no idea what I was getting into

On the contrary, that would be fucking hilarious. I would pay money to watch it happen in person.

how tolerant of you.

[GeeBee]

wow I'm clearly in over my head. I had no idea what I was getting into



how tolerant of you.

Don't take it all so seriously in here, man. We're all friends, and a good chunk of what's posted is tongue in cheek. You'll get the hang of it.

[Animalhill]

wow I'm clearly in over my head. I had no idea what I was getting into



how tolerant of you.
My racial backround gives me free reign to be as intolerent as possible.
Don't take it all so seriously in here, man. We're all friends, and a good chunk of what's posted is tongue in cheek. You'll get the hang of it.
This

[saysmydoctor]

yeah it sucks being the "idiot" newcomer.
Yup, it does.