New Taking Back Sunday Video

[Jared Kaufman]

Taking Back Sunday (http://www.takingbacksunday.com) has made their best video since "Cute Without The E (Cut From The Team)." Watch the clip for the band's new single, "MakeDamnSure," right here (http://www.mtv2.com/#videoPremiere/1527669). Don't forget the track is taken from their new album, Louder Now, which hits shelves on April 25th; it comes highly recommended by yours truly.

[CheChe1455]

i just want this band to break up badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IN THE WORST WAY!

[a speedo model]

i can't wait for this CD.

[Jared Kaufman]

i just want this band to break up badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IN THE WORST WAY!
HAHAHAHAHA (cannot.stop.slapping.my.knee). Dude, what are you doing on a computer / our website? Seriously, get up out of your chair and head to your local comedy club .. QUICK! Open Mic Night might not be that extravagent, but all legends have to start somewhere; you have a future in comedy and I'm very distraught knowing the talent you possess is being wasted in our forum.

[Boring Pop Song]

i just want this band to break up badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IN THE WORST WAY!


why don't you just ignore them if you don't like them?

[TBSowns524]

HAHAHAHAHA (cannot.stop.slapping.my.knee). Dude, what are you doing on a computer / our website? Seriously, get up out of your chair and head to your local comedy club .. QUICK! Open Mic Night might not be that extravagent, but all legends have to start somewhere; you have a future in comedy and I'm very distraught knowing the talent you possess is being wasted in our forum.

pwned.

[IAPAI]

MTVs website fucking sucks. I wish bands would stop debuting videos there. They should release them on their own websites in multiple formats for EVERYONE to enjoy.

[CheChe1455]

HAHAHAHAHA (cannot.stop.slapping.my.knee). Dude, what are you doing on a computer / our website? Seriously, get up out of your chair and head to your local comedy club .. QUICK! Open Mic Night might not be that extravagent, but all legends have to start somewhere; you have a future in comedy and I'm very distraught knowing the talent you possess is being wasted in our forum.

if sarcasm was sexy you'd have mad bitches!

[Independant27]

That was pretty amazing. At first I was like "What are these random scenes?", then later on they transformed, pretty cooool.

[SwedishHeat]

That's quite the set of dance moves that Adam's got.

I like that little stutter thing.

[kirbs84]

How is the rest of the album compared to this song? It's not a bad song, but to me, it just sounds like everything else they've already done.

[Jared Kaufman]

MTVs website fucking sucks. I wish bands would stop debuting videos there. They should release them on their own websites in multiple formats for EVERYONE to enjoy.
I know, I'm not that fond of their streaming; however, MTV2 (the channel itself) is airing it every hour on the hour.

[Shatter_Glass]

kinky.

[fedhed7]

I don't care what anyone says, I love Taking Back Sunday, and Louder Now is going to be one of my favorite albums of the year.

[CheChe1455]

maybe i came off harsh..
but how can many times can write the same song?!

call & answer.
bad lyrics

this band needs to grow...

brand new did it!

[boekebong]

Oh my God. This video is going to make them unbelievably rich and famous. TRL? Yep.

Let's face it, I'd go gay for Adam after watching that.

[zach26]

that was a clip? it was the whole fucking thing. sweet.

i liked the transforming thingy stuff. yeah.

[Jared Kaufman]

How is the rest of the album compared to this song? It's not a bad song, but to me, it just sounds like everything else they've already done.
Read my review (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=123285).

[BIGDeVriendt]

i thought they said they were never going to do another video............

[Brandon Herbel]

MTVs website fucking sucks. I wish bands would stop debuting videos there. They should release them on their own websites in multiple formats for EVERYONE to enjoy.

You would think with all the money they make and as big as MTV is they could afford to pay the webmaster to make the videos in Quicktime format..

Jesus

[TBSowns524]

Does the album have any screaming?

[IAPAI]

I know, I'm not that fond of their streaming; however, MTV2 (the channel itself) is airing it every hour on the hour.

I'm Canadian and don't get MTV2.
I have a Mac and can't get Windows Media Player 9.

Why must bands insist on using such a shitty method of getting their art, that they payed a lot of money to have made, out in a decent way? Can't they start releasing Video Singles on iTunes yet?

[iknewyouwhen]

at first i thought the video was just really random, but the ending pulled it all together nicely, especially the last shot of adam/the kid blowing the dandelion or whatever. The song doesn't thrill me, but neither did the first song i heard off of "Where You Want To Be," and i LOVE that album.

[fedhed7]

Awwwww... That was a cute video.

[fedhed7]

at first i thought the video was just really random, but the ending pulled it all together nicely, especially the last shot of adam/the kid blowing the dandelion or whatever. The song doesn't thrill me, but neither did the first song i heard off of "Where You Want To Be," and i LOVE that album.
You're a minority here.

[boldt_action]

Yeah, MTV sucks.

[Nate_RAWKS]

That was a really really good video and i think i like the song just as much or even more.

[shane hennessey]

fuck MTV and their anti-mac ways

[Nate_RAWKS]

Let's face it, I'd go gay for Adam after watching that.


haha me too... :dance:

[Jared Kaufman]

Oh my God. This video is going to make them unbelievably rich and famous. TRL? Yep.

Let's face it, I'd go gay for Adam after watching that.
Haha. When I first got into TBS and saw them live for the first time, I was seriously obsessed with Adam. I talked about the band, his stage presence/style, etc. ALL the time. It probably began to creep out of my girlfriend at the time and the family for obvious reasons. I had so much Taking Back Sunday paraphonelia it's not even funny. It died down a bit as I grew up .. a little, but after that video it might start picking up again. I hope he doesn't read this... (creepy -- looks around)

[ThatGirl]

undecided. will have to give more thought.

eh. its ok.

[leafsacc]

that was an awesome video, I can't wait to hear this album, was that cinergy field in Cincinnati getting blown up? that was the coolest part when it became a wave.

[Nate_RAWKS]

Haha. When I first got into TBS and saw them live for the first time, I was seriously obsessed with Adam. I talked about the band, his stage presence/style, etc. ALL the time. It probably began to creep out of my girlfriend at the time and the family for obvious reasons. I had so much Taking Back Sunday paraphonelia it's not even funny. It died down a bit as I grew up .. a little, but after that video it might start picking up again. I hope he doesn't read this... (creepy -- looks around) :juggle:

haha

I was obsessed too haha.....everytime i saw them live i felt like a little school girl he has incredible stage presence....

but i didn't buy that much stuff just a couple t-shirts and a swacket and their cds of course.

[boldt_action]

Pretty cool video.

I know i'm not one to judge, but what is he doing with that mike...so odd.

[Elijscott]

I like it. And the song, even though it does sound a lot like the last CD. Good stuff, I'm looking forward to the CD.

[leafsacc]

haha

I was obsessed too haha.....everytime i saw them live i felt like a little school girl he has incredible stage presence....

but i didn't buy that much stuff just a couple t-shirts and a swacket and their cds of course.

I can't wait to see them in May, I've only seen them in large venues, and he can even work that type of crowd so well, a small place is going to be awesome.

[Blake Solomon]

I have a mac and cant view it. Darn.

[Jared Kaufman]

haha

I was obsessed too haha.....everytime i saw them live i felt like a little school girl he has incredible stage presence....

but i didn't buy that much stuff just a couple t-shirts and a swacket and their cds of course.
Man, I've probably had like 10 Taking Back Sunday shirts, my desktops/wallpapers were always Taking Back Sunday, I use to listen to Tell All Your Friends EVERYDAY, always saw them if they were in town, made sure to mention them to anyone I ever met or talked to about music, etc.

[Troy will Fall]

I love this video, i am surprised how good it is.

[imthenewcancer]

at first i thought the video was just really random, but the ending pulled it all together nicely, especially the last shot of adam/the kid blowing the dandelion or whatever. The song doesn't thrill me, but neither did the first song i heard off of "Where You Want To Be," and i LOVE that album.

ill join you in the minority...i was at wall mart at midnight to get where you want to be the day it came out and i love that album...i dont think it was as good as TAYF, but come on...what is?

ps- the video was great

[Suprhatch614]

about fucking time...I don't know why most bands haven't taken advantage of this rule of human nature "People love watching animals kill and eat other animals all discovery channel on the sahara style"...thank you sir may I have another

[sweetforever]

I liked the video, and I love the song. Can't wait for Louder Now

[JunkBondTrader]

Does the album have any screaming?
its posts like this that make me want to leave absolutepunk.net and never come back again...

....if its a thursday or tbs thread...everyone is liek "Omgzorz is there screaming..PLLLLZZZZ I LOVE SCREAMZORZ!!!" my christ. I hate it. I would be so happy if all these bands dropped the fucking screaming, its so annyoing and its fucking stupid as hell, i am embarasses to listen to a band that has the screaming back up vocals. Unless you do it right like the blood brothers, who have just flat out style.

[xtbs7645x]

rad video, just kind of confused on the plot i guess.

[Timberwolf]

can anyone rip this for us poor mac people? :(

[Nate_RAWKS]

Man, I've probably had like 10 Taking Back Sunday shirts, my desktops/wallpapers were always Taking Back Sunday, I use to listen to Tell All Your Friends EVERYDAY, always saw them if they were in town, made sure to mention them to anyone I ever met or talked to about music, etc.


haha yeah you were more obsessed than me.

My girlfriend would have left me if i did all that....

but i did listen to the cd atleast once every day.... for a long time.

[buysoap]

i like the interpretive dance video better

[muddysocks7]

that made me smile... i really liked it!

[boekebong]

haha me too... :dance:

Threesome?

Haha. When I first got into TBS and saw them live for the first time, I was seriously obsessed with Adam. I talked about the band, his stage presence/style, etc. ALL the time. It probably began to creep out of my girlfriend at the time and the family for obvious reasons. I had so much Taking Back Sunday paraphonelia it's not even funny. It died down a bit as I grew up .. a little, but after that video it might start picking up again. I hope he doesn't read this... (creepy -- looks around)

Haha, I hope he does. Seriously though, you just can't take your eyes of him. Teen Beat magazine, start your printers.

[Nate_RAWKS]

Threesome?



of course, you didn't even need to ask ..... knock knock

that's me at your door.

[TBSowns524]

its posts like this that make me want to leave absolutepunk.net and never come back again...

....if its a thursday or tbs thread...everyone is liek "Omgzorz is there screaming..PLLLLZZZZ I LOVE SCREAMZORZ!!!" my christ. I hate it. I would be so happy if all these bands dropped the fucking screaming, its so annyoing and its fucking stupid as hell, i am embarasses to listen to a band that has the screaming back up vocals. Unless you do it right like the blood brothers, who have just flat out style.


It's responses like this that make me want to leave absolutepunk.net... you attacked my post, so I'm going to explain myself. I'm not someone who is like OmGz I luv SCrEamINg. I myself am not a big fan of screaming in general. Only a few bands that I listen to heavily scream a decent amount (Thrice, Thursday). TAYF is my favorite album. The screams on that album I just feel give it more emotion. That is by no means why I like the album. As for my question, Tate made some comment like "its a good album to rock out to if you don't want any screaming." With Tate's usual pejorative feelings towards the band, I did not know whether he was just being a douche or not. So when I asked this question, I was just hoping Jared would clear things up for me. I was not hoping to get ripped apart by someone with a hair across his ass.

[Rxbandit22]

HAHAHAHAHA (cannot.stop.slapping.my.knee). Dude, what are you doing on a computer / our website? Seriously, get up out of your chair and head to your local comedy club .. QUICK! Open Mic Night might not be that extravagent, but all legends have to start somewhere; you have a future in comedy and I'm very distraught knowing the talent you possess is being wasted in our forum.

Eh? Ignore him Kaufman.
Cuz that wasn't funny either or being pwned.

[jusscali]

i thought the video was rather gay...but thats just me

still like the band, but not a huge fan of this song in particular

[jawkneephighv]

Very nice! :)

[Jared Kaufman]

It's responses like this that make me want to leave absolutepunk.net... you attacked my post, so I'm going to explain myself. I'm not someone who is like OmGz I luv SCrEamINg. I myself am not a big fan of screaming in general. Only a few bands that I listen to heavily scream a decent amount (Thrice, Thursday). TAYF is my favorite album. The screams on that album I just feel give it more emotion. That is by no means why I like the album. As for my question, Tate made some comment like "its a good album to rock out to if you don't want any screaming." With Tate's usual pejorative feelings towards the band, I did not know whether he was just being a douche or not. So when I asked this question, I was just hoping Jared would clear things up for me. I was not hoping to get ripped apart by someone with a hair across his ass.
Um, I wouldn't say there's really screaming. There's really agressive singing, but it's not like Where You Want To Be where there seemed to be pointless screaming added in for "effect"; hope that makes sense.

[neo506]

Haha. When I first got into TBS and saw them live for the first time, I was seriously obsessed with Adam. I talked about the band, his stage presence/style, etc. ALL the time. It probably began to creep out of my girlfriend at the time and the family for obvious reasons. I had so much Taking Back Sunday paraphonelia it's not even funny. It died down a bit as I grew up .. a little, but after that video it might start picking up again. I hope he doesn't read this... (creepy -- looks around)

glad to know I'm not alone....

[TBSowns524]

Um, I wouldn't say there's really screaming. There's really agressive singing, but it's not like Where You Want To Be where there seemed to be pointless screaming added in for "effect"; hope that makes sense.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I definitely agree, that a lot of the screams sound forced on that record.

[com(?)]

well that was shit.

[Colin Farrell]

this video is fucking amazing. its the best video ive seen in a long time. adam cracks me up...

[Drew Beringer]

1. Fuck MTV, I can't watch this video. Someone help out a Mac guy?
2. Seeing them live on April 15, it's gonna be bonerific, I hope they are selling their new album then.
3. Fuck MTV.

[grnweenieag]

I actually thought that the "Timberwolves at New Jersey" vid was their best even though they never widely released it. I just liked the whople concept better. Also, how do people know that a certain cd will be their favorite of the year after only hearing one song? Dont get me wrong, I cannot wait for Thursday's new cd but its impossible to say that it'll be my fave of the year with only hearing two songs.

[JunkBondTrader]

.....wow so much for MTV2 playing this on the hour....i just sat through Sean Paul, Panic! At The Disco and that stripper song.....wtf.

[Jesse2]

I actually thought that the "Timberwolves at New Jersey" vid was their best even though they never widely released it. I just liked the whople concept better.

Wasn't that the one with Adam singing in the shower?

If so, that is on my list of worst videos ever.

If not, forget I said anything.

[Jared Kaufman]

Wasn't that the one with Adam singing in the shower?

If so, that is on my list of worst videos ever.

If not, forget I said anything.
You are correct, sir.

[JunkBondTrader]

Wasn't that the one with Adam singing in the shower?

If so, that is on my list of worst videos ever.

If not, forget I said anything.
hahaha i love that video as well.....i like when they throw shit at shaun from the roof.

[Jared Kaufman]

Btw, if someone has "You're So Last Summer" acoustic (preferably from when they performed it on Last Call With Carson Daly), then please IM me as I have apparently misplaced my MP3 of it. Thanks!

[JunkBondTrader]

Btw, if someone has "You're So Last Summer" acoustic (preferably from when they performed it on Last Call With Carson Daly), then please IM me as I have apparently misplaced my MP3 of it. Thanks!
duuuude. doesnt help, but i used to have it as well.

[Jared Kaufman]

duuuude. doesnt help, but i used to have it as well.
I love that version! To add to my obsessed story from earlier, I had a video of it on my computer and use to watch it all the time since I love that version so much. I watched it so many times I could remember like every shot and when they'd cut to a certain frame and so forth. Yikes; I'm scaring myself!

[Drew Beringer]

I want to see this video so badly. FUCK YOU MTV AND FUCK YOU COLLEGE FOR NOT HAVING MTV2 AHHHH

[The_New_Cancer]

Fucking love this video. It's gotta be the best video they've done... My only problem with it (besides my DVR messing up and making me miss part of it) were the animals killing other animals. Sure it's a natural thing but I hate to see stuff like that...

[The_New_Cancer]

Fucking love this video. It's gotta be the best video they've done... My only problem with it (besides my DVR messing up and making me miss part of it) were the animals killing other animals. Sure it's a natural thing but I hate to see stuff like that...

[Jared Kaufman]

Fucking love this video. It's gotta be the best video they've done... My only problem with it (besides my DVR messing up and making me miss part of it) were the animals killing other animals. Sure it's a natural thing but I hate to see stuff like that...
I knew you were a girl the second I read this post (and without / before even checking your gender in the top right corner).

[AShannon04]

Fuck MTV.com and their PC only bullshit. If anyone should realize and take into account that Macs have recently gained quite a bit of popularity in the music editing industry, it should be them.

[Roboman]

Amazing video, amazing song. Although Adam looks nothing (to me) like he has in any previous photo/video I have seen him in.

[ForeverInADay]

I don't care what anyone says, I love Taking Back Sunday, and Louder Now is going to be one of my favorite albums of the year.
i keep waiting for the good part to come in your avatar, but she never takes off her bra :(

[JunkBondTrader]

I want to see this video so badly. FUCK YOU MTV AND FUCK YOU COLLEGE FOR NOT HAVING MTV2 AHHHH
doesnt matter drew, they arent playing it...from...i dont know rain whats going on...running

wow i must have terrets....huh. spouting out crazy weird words for no reason

and that check up on it video by beyonce is so hot.......what i would give to be jay z for one day.

[projectmayhem16]

great video

[LiesWithinUs]

Are you sure they're playing it every hour on MTV2 Jared? It's been on in the background for almost an hour now and still no TBS.

[xtbs7645x]

they havent played it every hour, seems lik every other hour.. its been ona few times today.

[JunkBondTrader]

Are you sure they're playing it every hour on MTV2 Jared? It's been on in the background for almost an hour now and still no TBS.
yea me too....i have had to sit through so much shit.

[Jared Kaufman]

Are you sure they're playing it every hour on MTV2 Jared? It's been on in the background for almost an hour now and still no TBS.
That's suppose to be how the promotion was working. I mean I heard MTV advertise it that way themselves and someone at Warner Bros. mentioned it to me as well; so, I'm not sure what exactly is going on -- I'll try to find out.

[nivek87]

Haha. When I first got into TBS and saw them live for the first time, I was seriously obsessed with Adam. I talked about the band, his stage presence/style, etc. ALL the time. It probably began to creep out of my girlfriend at the time and the family for obvious reasons. I had so much Taking Back Sunday paraphonelia it's not even funny. It died down a bit as I grew up .. a little, but after that video it might start picking up again. I hope he doesn't read this... (creepy -- looks around)

i know what you mean, i did the same thing for tbs and i do the same for other bands now when i first got into them, but this video is "swingin" again

[dashboard1190]

I really like this video.

The song could be better.

[JunkBondTrader]

who doesnt like the beginning of that "o i think they like it" video with the kids dancing?

i think its the fucking shit.

[Drew Beringer]

Ok, just saw the video, it was fuckin awesome. I didn't think I could get anymore excited about this release, but this video has done it. I love the band's energy, Adam is one of the best frontmen today. :appl: to TBS.

[weworemasks]

excellent video. i wish it was strictly performance, because adam is back to being a spaztic freak.

[JunkBondTrader]

Ok, just saw the video, it was fuckin awesome. I didn't think I could get anymore excited about this release, but this video has done it. I love the band's energy, Adam is one of the best frontmen today. :appl: to TBS.
drew...im running.......holy fuck its raining outside, i hate the rain, i alwasy forget my umbrella so i have to fucking run to the bus.......but yea, i love tbs, i have eyt to see this video, where di you see it?

[duffe]

Good video.

[12:46AM]

Dear MTV,

CANADIANS ARE PEOPLE TOO!!!

[Jared Kaufman]

Dear MTV,

CANADIANS ARE PEOPLE TOO!!!
You wish.

[Drew Beringer]

drew...im running.......holy fuck its raining outside, i hate the rain, i alwasy forget my umbrella so i have to fucking run to the bus.......but yea, i love tbs, i have eyt to see this video, where di you see it?

On my roomies PC haha

[redeyes]

i thought they said they were never going to do another video............
yeah didn't they say that. they weren't going to play in any more videos. just art stuff, and one of them is really into film. that dude was supposed to direct their videos from here out as well. funy how major label money changes things. i'm not bashing them for it, i'd have done the same thing int heir shoes, why the fuck not? But ti still remains taht they do have to make sacrifices beacuse of it. mo money mo problems i guess.

[domesticyeti]

this video was surprisingly good.
while they haven't really evolved, i do like this song, and im hoping that the rest of the album is good

[Kaystarmaker]

yup. good video.

[JunkBondTrader]

....its 3:57.....if tbs isnt the next video i will be pissed

wow, i guess it the new trend to have the widecreen music video and then have a portion video on top and another on the bottom.....every video has it now, fucking lame.

[Jared Kaufman]

....its 3:57.....if tbs isnt the next video i will be pissed

wow, i guess it the new trend to have the widecreen music video and then have a portion video on top and another on the bottom.....every video has it now, fucking lame.
I seriously really hate that.

[whipcream4teen]

i dont like the video but i like the song i guess

[JunkBondTrader]

yea i guess that MTV2 thing isnt going on today.....wtf. i am never going to see this shit.

[JunkBondTrader]

they are eating mayonaise on trl

[Ruggiero2oo8]

Ok, just saw the video, it was fuckin awesome. I didn't think I could get anymore excited about this release, but this video has done it. I love the band's energy, Adam is one of the best frontmen today. :appl: to TBS.



agreed.

[JunkBondTrader]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi0R5tanrAk&search=Taking%20Back%20Sunday

pretty sweet.

[RememberFminus]

ok let me say something here.
First of all, this video was pretty cool some of the transformation things were kind of cheesy looking, but in general it was more enjoyable than most videos. my favorite part is adam jumping up and just eating it, that must of hurt.
2nd of all. There have been tons of awesome "frontmen" over time. Milo (descendents) henery rollins and up till now where there is geoff and both the blood brothers singers. There are TONS of awesome frontmen. That being said, I myself find it odd that I have to include adam to the modern list. But i dont think there is any denying that this dude is pretty insane. I saw Tbs play in a small club and a huge place. he is always exactly the same, puts tons of energy into the show and the mic fucking orbits around the dude. Many people say "he cant sing" how can he be a good frontman, well geoff (thursday) goes out of key a ton henry rollins just yelled like a maniac into the mic. it never mattered to me if a singer goes out of key or flat at times, i dont give a fuck at a live show as long as they are giving it everything they got and adam seems to do that all while giving the audience a sense of being part of something big. All the new emoish bands just seem to be copying what adam does best on stage.

ok people can stop calling me an eltist now that i discussed how i enjoy taking back sunday

[JunkBondTrader]

the best frontmen in modern music is anthony keidis of the red hot chili peppers....thats fucking easy..


as for scene bands....i think geoff, adam, jordan and johnny are icons. they are all idolized and all 3 bands are great.

[RememberFminus]

the best frontmen in modern music is anthony keidis of the red hot chili peppers....thats fucking easy..


as for scene bands....i think geoff, adam, jordan and johnny are icons. they are all idolized and all 3 bands are great.


anthony keidis needs to stop writing songs about california

[JunkBondTrader]

anthony keidis needs to stop writing songs about california
......its a three part song

Californiacation is Part I
By The Way is Part II
Dani California is Part III

.............and anthony keidis can write whatever the fuck he wants, because hes fucking anthony keidis. the guy has such a sweet lyrical style and melody i love it. and of course the rhcp lineup is like an all star team.

[Ladron]

I was a little dissapointed with this video. It reminds me way too much of the Foo Fighters "Best of You".

[fluke182]

I liked it a lot, big step up for TBS videos, which normally are not so hot. Cannot wait for Louder Now!

[arizonahotrock]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi0R5tanrAk&search=Taking%20Back%20Sunday

pretty sweet.


That's f'n sick.


Anyone out there have any clips of TBS' performance at Skate n Surf 2004? That is definitely one of my favorite performances of all time. It was so insane. Adam was definitely in a different world than everyone else and was entertaining as hell..

[JunkBondTrader]

i thought ashley parker angel was living on food stamps??? the dude is like number 2 on TRL. FUCKING LIAR!

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

i like.

[Jason Tate]

Does the album have any screaming?
None. And it gets old fast ... I stand by my review, my "staying power" score was dead on.

[RememberFminus]

None. And it gets old fast ... I stand by my review, my "staying power" score was dead on.

didnt like the positive press tbs was getting, better act like i hate it!
you know you like the new album

[Jason Tate]

Man, I've probably had like 10 Taking Back Sunday shirts, my desktops/wallpapers were always Taking Back Sunday, I use to listen to Tell All Your Friends EVERYDAY, always saw them if they were in town, made sure to mention them to anyone I ever met or talked to about music, etc.
Jesse > Adam.

[RememberFminus]

yea because ripping off morriessy to a crazy degree is the definition of good. Jesse needs to put away the smiths album and try writing a song that sounds like his own.

[arizonahotrock]

Jesse > Adam.

In terms of stage presence? Not even a chance...

[secondsunrise]

This video is fucking sweet...they are very creative!

[Jason Tate]

didnt like the positive press tbs was getting, better act like i hate it!
you know you like the new album
I'd pay good money to find a bigger idiot on this website then you. Seriously. You know I like the album because I reviewed it ... shocking. Turns out, I do like it ... but like isn't that strong of an adjective coming from me. Now, the new Format and Thursday albums get me hard. THOSE I love. See where this is going ...

[Jason Tate]

yea because ripping off morriessy to a crazy degree is the definition of good. Jesse needs to put away the smiths album and try writing a song that sounds like his own.
Compared to a lifetime/police rip off? Come on, everyone has influences. Jesses lyrics and vocals are just light years beyond Adam - there's no way around it.

[RememberFminus]

I'd pay good money to find a bigger idiot on this website then you. Seriously. You know I like the album because I reviewed it ... shocking. Turns out, I do like it ... but like isn't that strong of an adjective coming from me. Now, the new Format and Thursday albums get me hard. THOSE I love. See where this is going ...


dude you gave them a 7.5 in lasting power umm that isnt to bad of a grade in my view unless your doing your scoring like school, in which case 1-6 are an F. if your doing that, well thats just stupid. If you arent then a 7.5 seems to be pretty good for staying power. You have told me to ignore bands i hate instead of making fun of them, everytime a tbs thread comes you just like to let everyone know all over again how brand new is better than them. seems hypocrtical to me

[Jason Tate]

In terms of stage presence? Not even a chance...
I like when the band I'm seeing sings their own songs. Furthermore, going crazy on stage isn't "presence" to me. I don't think Bert (the used) is amazing or gg allin cause they fuck shit up and go "bonkers". I'd take jesse or gabe saporta ANY day for how they are on stage ....

[Drew Beringer]

ok let me say something here.
First of all, this video was pretty cool some of the transformation things were kind of cheesy looking, but in general it was more enjoyable than most videos. my favorite part is adam jumping up and just eating it, that must of hurt.
2nd of all. There have been tons of awesome "frontmen" over time. Milo (descendents) henery rollins and up till now where there is geoff and both the blood brothers singers. There are TONS of awesome frontmen. That being said, I myself find it odd that I have to include adam to the modern list. But i dont think there is any denying that this dude is pretty insane. I saw Tbs play in a small club and a huge place. he is always exactly the same, puts tons of energy into the show and the mic fucking orbits around the dude. Many people say "he cant sing" how can he be a good frontman, well geoff (thursday) goes out of key a ton henry rollins just yelled like a maniac into the mic. it never mattered to me if a singer goes out of key or flat at times, i dont give a fuck at a live show as long as they are giving it everything they got and adam seems to do that all while giving the audience a sense of being part of something big. All the new emoish bands just seem to be copying what adam does best on stage.

ok people can stop calling me an eltist now that i discussed how i enjoy taking back sunday

wow, that's the most positive thing I have ever read by you here. I applaud you for that. :appl:

[RememberFminus]

Compared to a lifetime/police rip off? Come on, everyone has influences. Jesses lyrics and vocals are just light years beyond Adam - there's no way around it.

i agree, jesse definitly has better lyrics, by a mile not even close. But after hearing Brand New demos the amount they are trying to rip of the smiths is ridiculous, i would think youd agree since your a huge morriessey fan. I mean in that demo 2 where he says "but terrifys me and i cant take it anymore" that is the HUGEST ripoff the way its sort of spoken. sure have your influences but dont just copy everything your favorite band does

[ryan turano]

its posts like this that make me want to leave absolutepunk.net and never come back again...

....if its a thursday or tbs thread...everyone is liek "Omgzorz is there screaming..PLLLLZZZZ I LOVE SCREAMZORZ!!!" my christ. I hate it. I would be so happy if all these bands dropped the fucking screaming, its so annyoing and its fucking stupid as hell, i am embarasses to listen to a band that has the screaming back up vocals. Unless you do it right like the blood brothers, who have just flat out style.

uuugh i just fell in love with you.

[Jason Tate]

dude you gave them a 7.5 in lasting power umm that isnt to bad of a grade in my view unless your doing your scoring like school, in which case 1-6 are an F. if your doing that, well thats just stupid. If you arent then a 7.5 seems to be pretty good for staying power. You have told me to ignore bands i hate instead of making fun of them, everytime a tbs thread comes you just like to let everyone know all over again how brand new is better than them. seems hypocrtical to me
Its a running joke between jared and me, notice that I was talking TO HIM, not you.

And you must not read any of my reviews, 7.5 is a low score. Its a solid C. If anything I scored was a D, I don't think I'd be listening to it more than once (and therefore not reviewing) ... Furthermore, clicking "help" on the review page gives you just that - help (which you need), and explains the scores (in a nut shell).

[arizonahotrock]

I like when the band I'm seeing sings their own songs. Furthermore, going crazy on stage isn't "presence" to me. I don't think Bert (the used) is amazing or gg allin cause they fuck shit up and go "bonkers". I'd take jesse or gabe saporta ANY day for how they are on stage ....

Fair enough. My big thing is when I see a live show, I want to see something more than just playing songs off the album. I can listen to the album whenever I want. When I pay $12-$100(in terms of Bamboozle, etc) to see a show I expect to see something different. I'm not saying that a band has to have a "crazy" lead singer or anything like that, I just want to leave the show feeling like I experienced something other than hearing the album live. Adam has a way of getting people into the show, getting people to have an "experience" moreso than Jesse, in my opinion.

[GDSP]

Whoever this jason tate character is, he sure seems to get all dorky and angry pretty fast. I like how he's arguing with this kid like its the debate team finals or something.

[RememberFminus]

Fair enough. My big thing is when I see a live show, I want to see something more than just playing songs off the album. I can listen to the album whenever I want. When I pay $12-$100(in terms of Bamboozle, etc) to see a show I expect to see something different. I'm not saying that a band has to have a "crazy" lead singer or anything like that, I just want to leave the show feeling like I experienced something other than hearing the album live. Adam has a way of getting people into the show, getting people to have an "experience" moreso than Jesse, in my opinion.

i agree, i remember when i saw BN a long time ago all of them used to go pretty nuts and it was fun - and they could still pull off the songs. I dont know at some point they quit that and i saw them at the 930 club and they just stood their like they were bored as hell.

[Jason Tate]

i agree, jesse definitly has better lyrics, by a mile not even close. But after hearing Brand New demos the amount they are trying to rip of the smiths is ridiculous, i would think youd agree since your a huge morriessey fan. I mean in that demo 2 where he says "but terrifys me and i cant take it anymore" that is the HUGEST ripoff the way its sort of spoken. sure have your influences but dont just copy everything your favorite band does
Which is why the word "demo" is so fucking important. Hell, no one gives NOY shit, and they jack full on melodies, almost lyrics, and straight up song structures from Moz. Last album everyone said they were ripping off Bright Eyes, now after hearing DEMOS people think they're jacking Morrissey. Seeing as I worship the man (Moz) I'd be the most pissed at a copy cat album ... however, I'm able to act rational and actually wait for their cd.

[Web250]

I'm pretty excited for this album, I definately like what I've heard so far.

Video is pretty tight too.

[Jason Tate]

Whoever this jason tate character is, he sure seems to get all dorky and angry pretty fast. I like how he's arguing with this kid like its the debate team finals or something.
Welcome to my website, now go fuck yourself.

[Drew Beringer]

I take Keith Buckley and Chino Moreno over any frontman any day.

[ben pequeno]

Welcome to my website, now go fuck yourself. you kiss your mom with that mouth boy?

[GDSP]

Welcome to my website, now go fuck yourself.
That would be a good example...

Seriously dude, its music, have fun a little.

[Jason Tate]

Fair enough. My big thing is when I see a live show, I want to see something more than just playing songs off the album. I can listen to the album whenever I want. When I pay $12-$100(in terms of Bamboozle, etc) to see a show I expect to see something different. I'm not saying that a band has to have a "crazy" lead singer or anything like that, I just want to leave the show feeling like I experienced something other than hearing the album live. Adam has a way of getting people into the show, getting people to have an "experience" moreso than Jesse, in my opinion.
We just have different expectations I suppose. I go to shows to see the band perform their songs, and entertain me, I don't go to hear the kids in the front row "sing" the songs. And the lead singer "do something crazy" for no reason then just doing it to keep up impressions ...

[arizonahotrock]

i agree, i remember when i saw BN a long time ago all of them used to go pretty nuts and it was fun - and they could still pull off the songs. I dont know at some point they quit that and i saw them at the 930 club and they just stood their like they were bored as hell.

Agreed. It's one thing to not have much motion or anything on stage, but to not be into it is completely different. Thrice isn't one for movement, but I never once feel like they are bored on stage, and they make their songs come to life, as opposed to playing their songs live.

Now, I'm by no means saying Brand New is terrible live. THe only time I've seen them they were really good, but I just don't think that Jesse holds a candle to Adam in terms of entertainment value.

[Jason Tate]

you kiss your mom with that mouth boy?
I don't kiss my mom, I do however, enjoy yours.

[RememberFminus]

Which is why the word "demo" is so fucking important. Hell, no one gives NOY shit, and they jack full on melodies, almost lyrics, and straight up song structures from Moz. Last album everyone said they were ripping off Bright Eyes, now after hearing DEMOS people think they're jacking Morrissey. Seeing as I worship the man (Moz) I'd be the most pissed at a copy cat album ... however, I'm able to act rational and actually wait for their cd.

hahaha, i love how mad you get. According to your emphasis on the word DEMO - it seems like Brand news recording process involves completely ripping off a smiths song and then spending a few motnhs finding ways to make it less like a smiths song. and NOY is huge rip off of the smiths its digusting, why listen to them when you can listen to the smiths i dont get it. and for the record, i have never gotten how people thought Brand new was ripping off bright eyes on deja entendu.

[Jason Tate]

That would be a good example...

Seriously dude, its music, have fun a little.
You fail to realize: this is fun for me.

[ben pequeno]

I don't kiss my mom, I do however, enjoy yours. dude...i have 2 dads :X

[Jason Tate]

hahaha, i love how mad you get. According to your emphasis on the word DEMO - it seems like Brand news recording process involves completely ripping off a smiths song and then spending a few motnhs finding ways to make it less like a smiths song. and NOY is huge rip off of the smiths its digusting, why listen to them when you can listen to the smiths i dont get it. and for the record, i have never gotten how people thought Brand new was ripping off bright eyes on deja entendu.
Yah I'm "mad" .. I'm sitting in a hotel lobby, with a beer .... I'm as far from "mad" as one can get at this point in time.

Second, if you understand how bands record and why, you'd get it ... But you don't, so I'm not really gonna waste time explaining that.

[arizonahotrock]

We just have different expectations I suppose. I go to shows to see the band perform their songs, and entertain me, I don't go to hear the kids in the front row "sing" the songs. And the lead singer "do something crazy" for no reason then just doing it to keep up impressions ...

We definitely have different expectations...I mean, in my younger days I was all about getting close and singing along and what not...Now, I'm just like "Oooh...I don't wanna get all sweaty," but I hate to see a crowd that just stands there taking in the music. It's a concert, people should be singing/screaming along, having a good time. Maybe it's just a difference in our stations in life, you know? You deal with bands everyday, so it's nothing special for you to go to a show, right? Well, for a lot of kids, they might only get to see their favorite band rarely, or even once... How much more incredible is that experience for them if they get to be up close and possibly share a mic on a favorite song with their favorite lead singer...that's what live shows are about. And even now that I don't do that as much (I'll be honest, I did at the Boysetsfire concert because I've never seen them, and it was such a small crowd), I like to see bands give people that experience.

I think I'm rambling now.

[GDSP]

You fail to realize: this is fun for me.
Eghk. Rock and Roll is better off without your style of fun. The way you talk about music makes it sound about as a fun as an engineering exam.

[RememberFminus]

Yah I'm "mad" .. I'm sitting in a hotel lobby, with a beer .... I'm as far from "mad" as one can get at this point in time.

Second, if you understand how bands record and why, you'd get it ... But you don't, so I'm not really gonna waste time explaining that.

oh Tate God of music i beg for your knowledge.

dude sometimes you got to admit when your favorite band is ripping off someone way to much.

[RememberFminus]

Eghk. Rock and Roll is better off without your style of fun. The way you talk about music makes it sound about as a fun as an engineering exam.

hahahhaha. so true. I mean jason dont you remember your days of going to mxpx concerts. that was all about the energy at a show, if people just stood their and watched itd get a bit boring wouldnt it?

[Jason Tate]

Eghk. Rock and Roll is better off without your style of fun. The way you talk about music makes it sound about as a fun as an engineering exam.
Yet, youre still here on my website. Taking it all in ....

[arizonahotrock]

hahahhaha. so true. I mean jason dont you remember your days of going to mxpx concerts. that was all about the energy at a show, if people just stood their and watched itd get a bit boring wouldnt it?

I couldn't agree more.

[Jason Tate]

oh Tate God of music i beg for your knowledge.

dude sometimes you got to admit when your favorite band is ripping off someone way to much.
And the moment an album, not a bands notes are released, you know ill be the first to call them out. However until then, I don't see how anyone can judge songs you're not supposed to hear, and songs that may completly change. That's just me though ... And 2 songs a bands made don't change how all the others sound. I mean, I like rkk, noy, and other "rip off bands" too ...

[GDSP]

Yet, youre still here on my website. Taking it all in ....
I just think you'd enjoy music more if you stopped looking at it like some sort of scientific formula. Staying power: 7.5? I know its an album review, but it sounds like the back of a pokemon card. C'mon, can we have at least one thing that everyone can enjoy without some stale suburban white kids reducing it to arbitrary math equations?

[RandomHero1230]

can MTV make the text on that page any fucking smaller??

[Jason Tate]

hahahhaha. so true. I mean jason dont you remember your days of going to mxpx concerts. that was all about the energy at a show, if people just stood their and watched itd get a bit boring wouldnt it?
They never made the audience sing 90% of the songs though. And I've never been bored at a brand new show (slr, copeland, mae are another story). And jesse was by far the better front man ...

[RememberFminus]

And the moment an album, not a bands notes are released, you know ill be the first to call them out. However until then, I don't see how anyone can judge songs you're not supposed to hear, and songs that may completly change. That's just me though ... And 2 songs a bands made don't change how all the others sound. I mean, I like rkk, noy, and other "rip off bands" too ...

yea your right, i probably shouldnt be putting so much stock into the demos, i was just confused when i heard it, i had to make sure i didnt put in a new smiths album. i guess theres worse things then sounding like the smiths. I hope theres more brandnew in their new album

[Jason Tate]

I just think you'd enjoy music more if you stopped looking at it like some sort of scientific formula. Staying power: 7.5? I know its an album review, but it sounds like the back of a pokemon card. C'mon, can we have at least one thing that everyone can enjoy without some stale suburban white kids reducing it to arbitrary math equations?
The scale is something the majority of our users asked us to include. I was the one arguing against its inclusion. Our visitors wanted it ... and we listen to them, its as simple as that.

[arizonahotrock]

I just think you'd enjoy music more if you stopped looking at it like some sort of scientific formula. Staying power: 7.5? I know its an album review, but it sounds like the back of a pokemon card. C'mon, can we have at least one thing that everyone can enjoy without some stale suburban white kids reducing it to arbitrary math equations?


Ha ha...pokemon card...:pokeball: gotta catch 'em all!

However, I like that the reviews are more in depth than say, Rolling Stone's. AP definitely has one of the most informative review systems...if you know, you're into that kinda thing.

[RememberFminus]

They never made the audience sing 90% of the songs though. And I've never been bored at a brand new show (slr, copeland, mae are another story). And jesse was by far the better front man ...
dude sooo many of the old school punk bands (minor threat, black flag) did the exact same thing that adam does. They would fucking jump into the audience and even lose the mic at times, it wasnt just abotu a "performance" it was about being a part of something. And since most of the music we all listen to stems from punk rock, i would think youd sympathize more with those who love bands who put on shows like taking back sunday.

[Jason Tate]

dude sooo many of the old school punk bands (minor threat, black flag) did the exact same thing that adam does. They would fucking jump into the audience and even lose the mic at times, it wasnt just abotu a "performance" it was about being a part of something. And since most of the music we all listen to stems from punk rock, i would think youd sympathize more with those who love bands who put on shows like taking back sunday.
I'm not punk, I could care less about the scene or that shit, I am selfish, and I want to see a good show. The other people there 99% of the time just annoy me to no end.

[arizonahotrock]

dude sooo many of the old school punk bands (minor threat, black flag) did the exact same thing that adam does. They would fucking jump into the audience and even lose the mic at times, it wasnt just abotu a "performance" it was about being a part of something. And since most of the music we all listen to stems from punk rock, i would think youd sympathize more with those who love bands who put on shows like taking back sunday.

Don't forget about all the bands that didn't care when fans jumped on stage, sang a few lyrics than dove back into the crowd. Hell, Boysetsfire still does that. How's that for being a part of something?

[tragedyl0ve]

i missed it this morning, ill have to catch it tonight....

[tragedyl0ve]

dude sooo many of the old school punk bands (minor threat, black flag) did the exact same thing that adam does. They would fucking jump into the audience and even lose the mic at times, it wasnt just abotu a "performance" it was about being a part of something. And since most of the music we all listen to stems from punk rock, i would think youd sympathize more with those who love bands who put on shows like taking back sunday.
but adam has a magc swinging microphone, so he wouldnt lose it

(emogame 3 preview)

[GDSP]

I think CMJ has the best reviews, because they come without ratings. Ratings are just too easy; y'know, like "hey how's the album?", "oh its about an 8." CMJ just gives a really good idea of what to expect musically, withouth getting all overwrought and too passionate about mostly forgettable music (this site is guilty of that) or beating the crap out of easy targets (also, guilty).

www.cmj.com

[arizonahotrock]

but adam has a magc swinging microphone, so he wouldnt lose it

(emogame 3 preview)
Well met.

[RememberFminus]

I'm not punk, I could care less about the scene or that shit, I am selfish, and I want to see a good show. The other people there 99% of the time just annoy me to no end.

i remember once you described going to your first mxpx show and how you loved being a part of that crowd, it seems like youve become a little more cynical now, understandbly so. I still think theres something to be said about bands with passion, thats why as much as i enjoy this new shift to indie music (death cab, brand new, bright eyes, bloc party) i cant help but think people forget that the point of music wasnt to put on a blazer and pretend your british. It all stemed to the first bands who didnt think they were any better then the audience they were playing to, they were only a means to get the audiences voice heard.

[JunkBondTrader]

blah blah blah blah, thats all i hear anymore

[fugitive_alien]

dammit i can't watch this video!! i'm sure it'll be up on youtube any time soon.

[arizonahotrock]

I'm not punk, I could care less about the scene or that shit, I am selfish, and I want to see a good show. The other people there 99% of the time just annoy me to no end.

Am I wrong in saying that if it wasn't for "the scene" that you wouldn't be where you are right now? Running a successful punk/emo/whatever music site. I've read your rants on "being punk" and I agree...Punk is not a fashion, it's not a set of beliefs, at best, it's a philosophy. However, the music styles that have come from Punk Music are abundant in all of your site's content. Even when you make news posts about Kanye. If it wasn't for "the scene" the bands that you love would be playing coffee shops in their hometowns on open mic nights. It's because of the scene that you are able to do what you do...and that's have music as a business.

Now, before you jump to conclusions...there is a difference between "the scene" and "scene kids" or "scenesters." When I say "the scene" I am referring to the style of music that we all (I'd assume if we're all on this website) love. We may all not like the same bands or feel like certain bands are as good as others, but that's what makes the scene great. For instance, the majority of rap fans like whatever single is hot right now...there is no loyalty. At least in this scene, there is band loyalty a lot of time. That's what makes "the scene" great and it's what allows you to keep doing what you supposedly love. And to say that you "could care less" about that...it just doesn't seem right.

[Jason Tate]

i remember once you described going to your first mxpx show and how you loved being a part of that crowd, it seems like youve become a little more cynical now, understandbly so. I still think theres something to be said about bands with passion, thats why as much as i enjoy this new shift to indie music (death cab, brand new, bright eyes, bloc party) i cant help but think people forget that the point of music wasnt to put on a blazer and pretend your british. It all stemed to the first bands who didnt think they were any better then the audience they were playing to, they were only a means to get the audiences voice heard.
I think engagin a crowd (mxpx, yellowcard, and even fob) is more important and better then exploiting them to sing your songs for you. I just don't get how adam has this reputation for being an amazing frontman, when he foesnt do anything that impresses me. I can swing a mic, toss it to the crowd, and act drunk. Hahaha. I think there are plenty of bands that stil have this "energy" you talk of, tbs isn't one of them *imo* and you're looking in the wrong places. Go see circa survive, etid, underoath, emery, or hit the lights and cartel even for what I'm talking about. Last time I saw midtown and brand new were awesome too ...

[anamericangod]

i really think they are going to be the biggest band in the world

[thesego211]

Haha. When I first got into TBS and saw them live for the first time, I was seriously obsessed with Adam. I talked about the band, his stage presence/style, etc. ALL the time. It probably began to creep out of my girlfriend at the time and the family for obvious reasons. I had so much Taking Back Sunday paraphonelia it's not even funny. It died down a bit as I grew up .. a little, but after that video it might start picking up again. I hope he doesn't read this... (creepy -- looks around)
don't take this the wrong way man, because i really respect what you do on this website. just curious though, how old are you? it's just strange to me that anyone over the age of 18 could be into this band. that's not to say that TBS sucks, but for me at least, as you grow up, you branch our musically and you kind of realize how average a lot of modern music is. this is not an attack on you, i'm just curious. i can't enjoy music like this after i started getting into Zeppelin, The Who, Cream, old blues stuff. does anyone know what i mean? i listened to TBS like crazy a few years ago, but i definately grew out of that whole genre. Most of the modern bands that i enjoy remind me of that kind of rock and roll (i.e. Mars Volta, Coheed, Strokes, etc...)
this is not a slam on jared or TBS, just a question.

[arizonahotrock]

I think engagin a crowd (mxpx, yellowcard, and even fob) is more important and better then exploiting them to sing your songs for you. I just don't get how adam has this reputation for being an amazing frontman, when he foesnt do anything that impresses me. I can swing a mic, toss it to the crowd, and act drunk. Hahaha. I think there are plenty of bands that stil have this "energy" you talk of, tbs isn't one of them *imo* and you're looking in the wrong places. Go see circa survive, etid, underoath, emery, or hit the lights and cartel even for what I'm talking about. Last time I saw midtown and brand new were awesome too ...

Well, when I saw Circa Survive, Anthony Green was doing the same shit Adam does, minus the mic swinging. He spent more than half the show in the crowd, so I don't really see how that's any different.

[thesego211]

The scale is something the majority of our users asked us to include. I was the one arguing against its inclusion. Our visitors wanted it ... and we listen to them, its as simple as that.
how can you judge an albums staying power before you have even owned it for a month? to me, that is a stupid part of the formula. that can't be answered for a few months, maybe a year.

[Jason Tate]

Am I wrong in saying that if it wasn't for "the scene" that you wouldn't be where you are right now? Running a successful punk/emo/whatever music site. I've read your rants on "being punk" and I agree...Punk is not a fashion, it's not a set of beliefs, at best, it's a philosophy. However, the music styles that have come from Punk Music are abundant in all of your site's content. Even when you make news posts about Kanye. If it wasn't for "the scene" the bands that you love would be playing coffee shops in their hometowns on open mic nights. It's because of the scene that you are able to do what you do...and that's have music as a business.

Now, before you jump to conclusions...there is a difference between "the scene" and "scene kids" or "scenesters." When I say "the scene" I am referring to the style of music that we all (I'd assume if we're all on this website) love. We may all not like the same bands or feel like certain bands are as good as others, but that's what makes the scene great. For instance, the majority of rap fans like whatever single is hot right now...there is no loyalty. At least in this scene, there is band loyalty a lot of time. That's what makes "the scene" great and it's what allows you to keep doing what you supposedly love. And to say that you "could care less" about that...it just doesn't seem right.
If I wasn't typing with my thumbs on my sidekick, I'd respond in more details, ill have to wait till I get back. Sorry. Ap.net is not, and doesn't want to be, a part of a scene, that's all I can say at this junction.

[RememberFminus]

I think engagin a crowd (mxpx, yellowcard, and even fob) is more important and better then exploiting them to sing your songs for you. I just don't get how adam has this reputation for being an amazing frontman, when he foesnt do anything that impresses me. I can swing a mic, toss it to the crowd, and act drunk. Hahaha. I think there are plenty of bands that stil have this "energy" you talk of, tbs isn't one of them *imo* and you're looking in the wrong places. Go see circa survive, etid, underoath, emery, or hit the lights and cartel even for what I'm talking about. Last time I saw midtown and brand new were awesome too ...
i hear you. dont get me wrong, I understand there are better frontmen then adam, i was in no way saying hes the greatest. watching anthony green is awesome dude hits crazy notes with a ton of energy, same goes for the blood brothers. I just dont get why people hate on adam when he throws the mic in the audience since tons of bands who defined punk rock did the same thing, but i understand if it annoys. Cartel live bored me, they slow their songs down or something? dude does have a crazy voice though, but i dont like the music. if they sped up the songs they would be awesome i think.


and i dont think exploiting is such a good term to use, i highly doubt hes doing it cause he doesnt want to sing - he just enjoys it and it seems like the kids do to, me included

[Jason Tate]

how can you judge an albums staying power before you have even owned it for a month? to me, that is a stupid part of the formula. that can't be answered for a few months, maybe a year.
Because its now been a month, and I don't listen to it anymore? I've been doing this long enough .... I can tell. I've never had a "staying power" score I haven't been damn close on months later.

[arizonahotrock]

don't take this the wrong way man, because i really respect what you do on this website. just curious though, how old are you? it's just strange to me that anyone over the age of 18 could be into this band. that's not to say that TBS sucks, but for me at least, as you grow up, you branch our musically and you kind of realize how average a lot of modern music is. this is not an attack on you, i'm just curious. i can't enjoy music like this after i started getting into Zeppelin, The Who, Cream, old blues stuff. does anyone know what i mean? i listened to TBS like crazy a few years ago, but i definately grew out of that whole genre. Most of the modern bands that i enjoy remind me of that kind of rock and roll (i.e. Mars Volta, Coheed, Strokes, etc...)
this is not a slam on jared or TBS, just a question.

I don't understand why you can't enjoy different styles of music...

Sure, Zeppelin, The Who, Cream...classics...but, it's over 30 years old, man. It's one thing to respect them and their contributions, but it's another thing to use them as a fallback. Besides, comparing a band like TBS to a band like Cream is completely absurd...they're different GENRES of music. They come from different places, no? It's cool that you don't like this type of music anymore, but to say you think it's strange that people over 18 like them is just close-minded.

[arizonahotrock]

If I wasn't typing with my thumbs on my sidekick, I'd respond in more details, ill have to wait till I get back. Sorry. Ap.net is not, and doesn't want to be, a part of a scene, that's all I can say at this junction.
Please do, I'm curious to how you can say that AP.net is NOT part of a scene. This is not meant to be insulting or belittling. I just really think that this website is part of scene, well, to be fair a part of many different scenes. If you weren't, you would be posting country, rap, rock, techno, world, etc music news. Deny it all you want, but 99% of the news you post is either rock, punk, hardcore, indie news (Music related, that is. I am not referring to any of the glorious Snakes on a Plane news or the excellent Entertainment news column). The people that come to this site, despite the varied musical tastes that we all have, have one thing in common. We all love this "scene" of music. You can't deny that.

Oh, and please do not refer to the name "absolute punk" meaning nothing in terms of site content. I know this. It's just a name, it's the content that defines the site. I get that (see: above paragraph).

[Jason Tate]

Well, when I saw Circa Survive, Anthony Green was doing the same shit Adam does, minus the mic swinging. He spent more than half the show in the crowd, so I don't really see how that's any different.
I've only seen them once, and he was in the crowd, but HE sang. That was the difference IMO.

[arizonahotrock]

I've only seen them once, and he was in the crowd, but HE sang. That was the difference IMO.
Well, he was singing for the most part, but he would put the mic down and also get down close enough that people can be heard on the mic.


On an unrelated note...

How did, once again, a message board get so skewed from the original topic, in this case, a TBS video? I vowed that I would never be a part of this...and now I am. Tis a sad day indeed. Ha ha...

I am, enjoying the debate/argument/discussion, however. I'm just thankful it's not a flame war.

[smogs]

MTVs website fucking sucks. I wish bands would stop debuting videos there. They should release them on their own websites in multiple formats for EVERYONE to enjoy.


DITTO TO THE MAX.

[Jason Tate]

Please do, I'm curious to how you can say that AP.net is NOT part of a scene. This is not meant to be insulting or belittling. I just really think that this website is part of scene, well, to be fair a part of many different scenes. If you weren't, you would be posting country, rap, rock, techno, world, etc music news. Deny it all you want, but 99% of the news you post is either rock, punk, hardcore, indie news (Music related, that is. I am not referring to any of the glorious Snakes on a Plane news or the excellent Entertainment news column). The people that come to this site, despite the varied musical tastes that we all have, have one thing in common. We all love this "scene" of music. You can't deny that.

Oh, and please do not refer to the name "absolute punk" meaning nothing in terms of site content. I know this. It's just a name, it's the content that defines the site. I get that (see: above paragraph).
I try to stay as far away from the scene as I can, because I don't like the direction its gone. By showing that someone who wears ralph lauren and has blond hair cut normally can still make an impact in this music genre(s) .... I think that's what matters to me most. I'm as far from what this scene has become. The music, sure, lump me and ap in, the style ... Fuck no. I want no part in it.

[projectmayhem16]

I take Keith Buckley and Chino Moreno over any frontman any day.add Aaron Weiss and there's my list.

[arizonahotrock]

I try to stay as far away from the scene as I can, because I don't like the direction its gone. By showing that someone who wears ralph lauren and has blond hair cut normally can still make an impact in this music genre(s) .... I think that's what matters to me most. I'm as far from what this scene has become. The music, sure, lump me and ap in, the style ... Fuck no. I want no part in it.
Aw dude. I wasn't lumping you in that. FUCK THAT. I guess that didn't come through clear enough when I said something about the difference between "the scene" and "scene kids". I hate the kids at shows that are wearing eyeliner, girl's jeans (ESPECIALLY the girls...lol) and all the cliche fashion/style accesories. That's definitely not what I meant when I was talking about "the scene." I think it's great when I go to shows and see people like you, completely not "dressed the part" to be at the show. I'm the same way...I go to shows in collared shirts and what not...and get the stares from these dumb kids who think that you can't enjoy the music if you don't enjoy the fashion.

Ever see SLC Punk! I was always think of people like us as Mike...the guy who's as into the music as anyone else, but doesn't look like he is because he doesn't dress like the stereotypical punk.


Oh, and to bring it full circle...I think that it's even cooler when people like you or I are in the front row, singing along with the band, showing these "scene kids" that just because we don't dress like extras from "Queen of the Damned" we can't enjoy good music and the energy and everything else.

Oh...and SAN DIMAS HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!

[Jason Tate]

Aw dude. I wasn't lumping you in that. FUCK THAT. I guess that didn't come through clear enough when I said something about the difference between "the scene" and "scene kids". I hate the kids at shows that are wearing eyeliner, girl's jeans (ESPECIALLY the girls...lol) and all the cliche fashion/style accesories. That's definitely not what I meant when I was talking about "the scene." I think it's great when I go to shows and see people like you, completely not "dressed the part" to be at the show. I'm the same way...I go to shows in collared shirts and what not...and get the stares from these dumb kids who think that you can't enjoy the music if you don't enjoy the fashion.

Ever see SLC Punk! I was always think of people like us as Mike...the guy who's as into the music as anyone else, but doesn't look like he is because he doesn't dress like the stereotypical punk.


Oh, and to bring it full circle...I think that it's even cooler when people like you or I are in the front row, singing along with the band, showing these "scene kids" that just because we don't dress like extras from "Queen of the Damned" we can't enjoy good music and the energy and everything else.

Oh...and SAN DIMAS HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!
We were talking about differenr "scenes" then, so yeah, we're all good now.

[blum]

maybe i came off harsh..
but how can many times can write the same song?!

call & answer.
bad lyrics

this band needs to grow...

brand new did it!

you have a point.

[xabadstarrx]

adam makes me quiver in the worst way... hot.

[arizonahotrock]

We were talking about differenr "scenes" then, so yeah, we're all good now.
Ha...I think we're both just old and jaded. Damn youngins ruinin' everything for us. I remember when I had to walk 17 miles, uphill both ways, in the pouring down rain, shoeless, just to get to the backrow of a pre-Dookie Green Day concert. And I'm only 22 (almost 23)...What were we talkin about again?

[emptyvictory]

They never made the audience sing 90% of the songs though. And I've never been bored at a brand new show (slr, copeland, mae are another story). And jesse was by far the better front man ...

Lacey is a mediocre frontman at best. Leave him in the back room writing all those great lyrics. Last TBS show I went to they didn't twist anyones arm to sing along it was group participation.

[biffyboy]

love the song
love the video
bring on the album!

[emptyvictory]

I think engagin a crowd (mxpx, yellowcard, and even fob) is more important and better then exploiting them to sing your songs for you. I just don't get how adam has this reputation for being an amazing frontman, when he foesnt do anything that impresses me. I can swing a mic, toss it to the crowd, and act drunk. Hahaha. I think there are plenty of bands that stil have this "energy" you talk of, tbs isn't one of them *imo* and you're looking in the wrong places. Go see circa survive, etid, underoath, emery, or hit the lights and cartel even for what I'm talking about. Last time I saw midtown and brand new were awesome too ...

NO Jason you can't swing the mic, not like Adam can . More frontmen have lost teeth , broke noses, black eyes and smacked the crap out of everyone and everything around them. Adam has taken this to an art form and if you ever go to an arena show of thiers you see him do all this and not miss a note. Your attitude towards Adam is showing through. You should stay with Lacey and leave the rest alone

[kidsrdumb]

Anyone else think that it's been that long since tater has wseem the band? Who has seen them lately? All i keep reading about in the sites and in the press is how great they are, maybe a band gets better after a few years and adding a few members who are better musicians? Idunno, i think jason should have to go to a show in this year at least and then report his honestly opinion, this one from forever ago holds no weight. Anyone agree? Who has seen them on this tour yet? would love to hear about it..


I think engagin a crowd (mxpx, yellowcard, and even fob) is more important and better then exploiting them to sing your songs for you. I just don't get how adam has this reputation for being an amazing frontman, when he foesnt do anything that impresses me. I can swing a mic, toss it to the crowd, and act drunk. Hahaha. I think there are plenty of bands that stil have this "energy" you talk of, tbs isn't one of them *imo* and you're looking in the wrong places. Go see circa survive, etid, underoath, emery, or hit the lights and cartel even for what I'm talking about. Last time I saw midtown and brand new were awesome too ...

[ThankQ4DVenom]

i guess ill be the first...

UPLOAD IT PLEASE !!!

[JustAStupidKid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT55ITUToG0&search=makedamnsure%20taking%20back %20sunday

[ceelove]

adam is funny to watch. i think it's a good video.

[sandro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT55ITUToG0&search=makedamnsure

bad sound but still.

[wriggles_77]

Adam + Jordan > Jesse

[Jared Kaufman]

don't take this the wrong way man, because i really respect what you do on this website. just curious though, how old are you? it's just strange to me that anyone over the age of 18 could be into this band. that's not to say that TBS sucks, but for me at least, as you grow up, you branch our musically and you kind of realize how average a lot of modern music is. this is not an attack on you, i'm just curious. i can't enjoy music like this after i started getting into Zeppelin, The Who, Cream, old blues stuff. does anyone know what i mean? i listened to TBS like crazy a few years ago, but i definately grew out of that whole genre. Most of the modern bands that i enjoy remind me of that kind of rock and roll (i.e. Mars Volta, Coheed, Strokes, etc...)
this is not a slam on jared or TBS, just a question.
I think you're misunderstanding me. My whole obsession with Taking Back Sunday occured right before Tell All Your Friends came out and when it was released. My girlfriend at the time cheated on me, got knocked up and we broke up. That album at that time changed my outlook on so many things and was everything I needed to get me through. I know, I know; we were young, it wasn't really love, etc., but it sure as hell was therapuetic. I went on to listen to the CD every day for almost two years. I've had another crap situation with a girlfriend/ex-girlfriend lately and I resorted to playing it again; not to be lame or anything, but just for the mere feeling I get when I'm singing-a-long to every single word. Taking Back Sunday is by no means on that same pedestal as they were 4 years ago with me, but I'll always want to listen to their music (their new album is great) see them live (seeing those songs live still give me chills), etc. My taste have evolved quite a bit and I'm by no means really into "this kind" of music anymore. Go check out my user profile and look at the list of bands; I do love stuff like TBS, FOB, MCR, etc., but it's all fun to me -- I'm really more so into the indie-rock and more mature stuff these days.

[sundaysetsashes]

can someone rip a better quality version of this

[grnweenieag]

I think you're misunderstanding me. My whole obsession with Taking Back Sunday occured right before Tell All Your Friends came out and when it was released. My girlfriend at the time cheated on me, got knocked up and we broke up. That album at that time changed my outlook on so many things and was everything I needed to get me through. I know, I know; we were young, it wasn't really love, etc., but it sure as hell was therapuetic. I went on to listen to the CD every day for almost two years. I've had another crap situation with a girlfriend/ex-girlfriend lately and I resorted to playing it again; not to be lame or anything, but just for the mere feeling I get when I'm singing-a-long to every single word. Taking Back Sunday is by no means on that same pedestal as they were 4 years ago with me, but I'll always want to listen to their music (their new album is great) see them live (seeing those songs live still give me chills), etc. My taste have evolved quite a bit and I'm by no means really into "this kind" of music anymore. Go check out my user profile and look at the list of bands; I do love stuff like TBS, FOB, MCR, etc., but it's all fun to me -- I'm really more so into the indie-rock and more mature stuff these days.
Im right there with ya on this one. I don't really listen to TBS anymore but I came home on leave after Marine boot in May 2002 and picked up that cd. With all the girl shit that happened to me while in boot camp, this was the perfect cd and for that I don't think I can ever really bash this band. I'm not obsessed at all but that cd occupys a little space in my head.

[sandro]

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0J9V2TT5ERX4O0YL3NZ1FNIGG E

good quality for mac users!