NY Met's Lineup

[wessa]

Sorry to make this specific to one team, but i just need to get some opinions from mets fans and baseball experts.
So Willie Randolph has carlos beltran batting third and david wright batting fifth. I don't know but i was always taught that the best hitter on the team should bat third. Beltran (possibly the most overrated player in baseball) has hit over .300 once in like 7 seasons and is a career .280 hitter. Last year wright, in his first full season in the bigs, hit .306 with 27 homers, 102 rbi, and 99 runs. Wright should be hitting third for this team.
And I don't care if it is a righty or a lefty on the mound. Wright should always bat third.
Case in point: In today's game, Beltran is 0-4 and has so far left like 4 men on base yet wright is 2-4 and has a solo homerun.
Anyone else agree with this? I'd be happy with beltran in the 2 slot because of his speed.

[Broken Parachute]

This should be our lineup right now:

Jose Reyes SS
Paul LoDuca C
David Wright 3B
Carlos Delgado 1B
Carlos Beltran CF
Cliff Floyd LF
Xavier Nady RF
Anderson hernandez 2B
Tom Glavine P

Beltran popped out twice to the same spot. he ruined a 2nd and 3rd RBI chance. He's so rediculous. You can even put Beltran 2nd, and slide everyone up one..then put LoDuca 6th or w/e.

David Wright is 2-4..a Home Run, a Single, and 1 run scored. Why isn't he batting third? Is it because of his age? I don't know. Either way, Beltran isn't working out in the 3 spot.

[wessa]

This should be our lineup right now:

Jose Reyes SS
Paul LoDuca C
David Wright 3B
Carlos Delgado 1B
Carlos Beltran CF
Cliff Floyd LF
Xavier Nady RF
Anderson hernandez 2B
Tom Glavine P

Beltran popped out twice to the same spot. he ruined a 2nd and 3rd RBI chance. He's so rediculous. You can even put Beltran 2nd, and slide everyone up one..then put LoDuca 6th or w/e.

David Wright is 2-4..a Home Run, a Single, and 1 run scored. Why isn't he batting third? Is it because of his age? I don't know. Either way, Beltran isn't working out in the 3 spot.

i would like to see beltran hitting second to take advantage of the speed that him and reyes have at the top of the lineup. Also, i think floyd has to be hitting behind delgado. The guy hit 34 homers last year.
But wright needs to be batting third. He is the best hitter on the team. He is gonna break out this season and everyone is going to know who he is.

[Goodbye Forever]

1. Reyes
2. Beltran
3. Wright
4. Delgado
5. Floyd
6. LoDuca
7. Diaz (although Nady played really well today)
8. Hernandez

That's how I would do it.

[xearlynovemberx]

wow xavier nady is great

[kshtoinks12]

yankees > mets

[CallMeChief]

1. Reyes
2. Beltran
3. Wright
4. Delgado
5. Floyd
6. LoDuca
7. Diaz (although Nady played really well today)
8. Hernandez

That's how I would do it.

i like that one alot, id still put Nady over diaz though, i have a good feeling about him this season

[wessa]

1. Reyes
2. Beltran
3. Wright
4. Delgado
5. Floyd
6. LoDuca
7. Diaz (although Nady played really well today)
8. Hernandez

That's how I would do it.

exactly
although i am going to say one thing that most people will kill me for, but i think matsui should get a chance to start at second again. I know he is injured but when he gets back im looking for him to have a breakout year. I know he has sucked his first two seasons here after being really productive in japan, but now there is no pressure on him. When he comes back, he will be batting 8th. I think he can resurrect his career now that there is no pressure for him to contribute a lot offensively.

[justinevans]

beltran should bat 2 or 3 cause he has speed to score from a single if delgado hits a double.

[wessa]

beltran should bat 2 or 3 cause he has speed to score from a single if delgado hits a double.
beltran should bat second, then wright can bat third (he led the team in doubles last year). And then delgado and floyd can clean up the bases with their power.

[CallMeChief]

exactly
although i am going to say one thing that most people will kill me for, but i think matsui should get a chance to start at second again. I know he is injured but when he gets back im looking for him to have a breakout year. I know he has sucked his first two seasons here after being really productive in japan, but now there is no pressure on him. When he comes back, he will be batting 8th. I think he can resurrect his career now that there is no pressure for him to contribute a lot offensively.

ive been pushing the give matsui another chance thing for a while, im pretty sure he has the potential to be the fastest player in the league, the games i watched the guy just flew around the bases. I think, if given the chance, they can turn him into a solid hitter for average, and if they can fix his fielding issues hed definitely be worth putting in the lineup. I mean, if worse comes to worse, play him until he ATLEAST becomes tradeable.

[YouMadeTheScene]

1. Reyes
2. Beltran
3. Wright
4. Delgado
5. Floyd
6. LoDuca
7. Nady
8. Hernandez

is what it should be, but Randolph even said that he's going to tinker with the lineup a bunch before deciding on one.

[Broken Parachute]

It would kind of make sense to put Wright 4th or 5th though. Remember all year last year? They intentionally walked Piazza or Floyd and Wright came up with bases loaded and he delivered big.

He does deserve the three spot though. Without a doubt.

[YourLatestVicti]

It would kind of make sense to put Wright 4th or 5th though. Remember all year last year? They intentionally walked Piazza or Floyd and Wright came up with bases loaded and he delivered big.

He does deserve the three spot though. Without a doubt.
He does deserve but I seem to remember reading somewhere that they didn't want him in the third spot because they don't want to put too much pressure on him, it is only his second full season with the team it's understandable.

[wessa]

He does deserve but I seem to remember reading somewhere that they didn't want him in the third spot because they don't want to put too much pressure on him, it is only his second full season with the team it's understandable.

willie is dumb for thinking that. He was the best player on the team last year. Now he has more offensive help.

[Broken Parachute]

You can't have too much pressure if you're David Wright. Let's see..

Barehanded diving catch..
Diving into the stands in Seattle, making the catch..
.302 Avg, 176 Hits, 27 Homeruns, 102 RBI's, 17 SB's last year..
Insanely large fanbase..
Playing in a MAJOR sports market, New York..

Uhhh...yeah, no pressure there, right? He's lived through the pressure in his first two seasons..he can deal with pressure this year.

[wessa]

You can't have too much pressure if you're David Wright. Let's see..

Barehanded diving catch..
Diving into the stands in Seattle, making the catch..
.302 Avg, 176 Hits, 27 Homeruns, 102 RBI's, 17 SB's last year..
Insanely large fanbase..
Playing in a MAJOR sports market, New York..

Uhhh...yeah, no pressure there, right? He's lived through the pressure in his first two seasons..he can deal with pressure this year.

add that to the fact that there have been no home grown stars playing for the mets in a long time. Plus it must be hard for him to play with the fear that minaya might trade him for some latin american minor league players.

[piebaldkid42]

how gay is it that the mets copied mariano's "enter sandman" intro. that. is. retarded.

[wessa]

how gay is it that the mets copied mariano's "enter sandman" intro. that. is. retarded.
im not sure what this is about but im assuming that it is referring to when wagner enters the game to close it out. My only response would be that i think the players choose the songs they want so their is a good chance that wagner has been using that for a while and it's not a met's thing. I could be wrong though.

[YourLatestVicti]

im not sure what this is about but im assuming that it is referring to when wagner enters the game to close it out. My only response would be that i think the players choose the songs they want so their is a good chance that wagner has been using that for a while and it's not a met's thing. I could be wrong though.
That's a decission made by Wagner and let's be honest it's not the most original idea ever to begin with.

[Broken Parachute]

The players usually choose their song. Blame Wagner, haha.

Trevor Hoffman walking into the game to Hells Bells is pretty intimidating. Haha.

[YourLatestVicti]

You can't have too much pressure if you're David Wright. Let's see..

Barehanded diving catch..
Diving into the stands in Seattle, making the catch..
.302 Avg, 176 Hits, 27 Homeruns, 102 RBI's, 17 SB's last year..
Insanely large fanbase..
Playing in a MAJOR sports market, New York..

Uhhh...yeah, no pressure there, right? He's lived through the pressure in his first two seasons..he can deal with pressure this year.
I'm not saying I agree with the pressure excuse but it's what I remember reading.

[bigmike]

unless beltran is coming out of the bullpen, it doesn't matter where he hits. The mets still won't win the division.


But i do agree he's overrated and shouldn't be hitting 3rd, however.

[wessa]

unless beltran is coming out of the bullpen, it doesn't matter where he hits. The mets still won't win the division.


But i do agree he's overrated and shouldn't be hitting 3rd, however.

although i cannot guarantee they will win, they have an excellent chance. That chance definately hinges on beltran earning all the money the mets are paying him.

[YourLatestVicti]

although i cannot guarantee they will win, they have an excellent chance. That chance definately hinges on beltran earning all the money the mets are paying him.
I think the Mets can win without Beltran, it's their pitching that worries me at this point. If their staff can stay relatively healthy and productive throughout the year they should win the division by five games at the very least.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Until Reyes learns to raise his OBP way up, he shouldn't be batting first.

[bigmike]

although i cannot guarantee they will win, they have an excellent chance. That chance definately hinges on beltran earning all the money the mets are paying him.
no it hinges on the other guys in the bullpen other than wagner, and possibly heilman. oh yeah, and if anyone besides pedro and glavine can get beyond the 5th inning.

[wessa]

Until Reyes learns to raise his OBP way up, he shouldn't be batting first.

i would like to see it higher, but there is really no one else on the team who should be leading off. The guy may be the fastest player in major league baseball. Their are really no other guys on the team who can bat leadoff.

[YourLatestVicti]

no it hinges on the other guys in the bullpen other than wagner, and possibly heilman. oh yeah, and if anyone besides pedro and glavine can get beyond the 5th inning.
Traschel(spelling?) is plenty capable of getting through five innings so the starting pitching if healthy isn't bad.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

i would like to see it higher, but there is really no one else on the team who should be leading off. The guy may be the fastest player in major league baseball. Their are really no other guys on the team who can bat leadoff.
Anyone with a better OBP would work until they cant get someone else. It might not be pretty, but someone like Diaz or Floyd could fill it. Reyes hurts them with his horrible OBP.

[mikeford]

leadoff hitters should NOT be determined by speed.

OBP should be the determining factor.


that said, Keith Foulke has the best entrance music for any player in the MLB...

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Foulke is not going to be getting any kind of intro if he keeps giving up hard hits in the 9th inning.

[mikeford]

i fully expect papelbon to be the closer by june.

and then hansen shortly thereafter.

[Dirty Ernie]

excuse my ignorance but what song does foulke enter the game to?

[mikeford]

excuse my ignorance but what song does foulke enter the game to?

mother by danzig

[bigmike]

Traschel(spelling?) is plenty capable of getting through five innings so the starting pitching if healthy isn't bad.
If Trachsel is your linchpin to a division hope, then I'm sorry to tell you, there's no division title for them this year.

[wessa]

If Trachsel is your linchpin to a division hope, then I'm sorry to tell you, there's no division title for them this year.

dude, he was good two and three years ago and was injured last year, he is a good number 3 pitcher, the problem is when you put him in the number 1 or 2 starter spot.

[YourLatestVicti]

dude, he was two and three years ago and was injured last year, he is a good number 3 pitcher, the problem is when you put him in the number 1 or 2 starter spot.
Exactly, he's a solid third starter who has always gone out and given the Mets a chance to win the game.

[Broken Parachute]

Trachsel was a 20 game winner 2 years ago. He can definitely pitch..the question is, how is he feeling after the injury from last year?

[mikeford]

dude, he was good two and three years ago and was injured last year, he is a good number 3 pitcher, the problem is when you put him in the number 1 or 2 starter spot.

two and three years ago is alot when youre like 40

[wessa]

Trachsel was a 20 game winner 2 years ago. He can definitely pitch..the question is, how is he feeling after the injury from last year?

dude, you call yourself a mets fan? i have only been a casual fan for the last few years and i know he wasn't a 20 game winner ever. He went 16-10, that was the most wins he ever had in a season.

and trachsel is 36.

[Broken Parachute]

dude, you call yourself a mets fan? i have only been a casual fan for the last few years and i know he wasn't a 20 game winner ever. He went 16-10, that was the most wins he ever had in a season.

and trachsel is 36.

That's because I don't like Trachsel? I could of swore he won 20 games. Oh well, he's still not going to be the best pitcher. Plus, how does this not make me a Met fan? I don't memorize every little stat ever.

[Adeniz19]

Sorry to make this specific to one team, but i just need to get some opinions from mets fans and baseball experts.
So Willie Randolph has carlos beltran batting third and david wright batting fifth. I don't know but i was always taught that the best hitter on the team should bat third. Beltran (possibly the most overrated player in baseball) has hit over .300 once in like 7 seasons and is a career .280 hitter. Last year wright, in his first full season in the bigs, hit .306 with 27 homers, 102 rbi, and 99 runs. Wright should be hitting third for this team.
And I don't care if it is a righty or a lefty on the mound. Wright should always bat third.
Case in point: In today's game, Beltran is 0-4 and has so far left like 4 men on base yet wright is 2-4 and has a solo homerun.
Anyone else agree with this? I'd be happy with beltran in the 2 slot because of his speed.well they have delgado 4th so they would need someone behind him who other teams are afraid of so they just dont walk his ass everytime. also beltran has more speed then right so it would make sense to put him in front of the order.

[wessa]

That's because I don't like Trachsel? I could of swore he won 20 games. Oh well, he's still not going to be the best pitcher. Plus, how does this not make me a Met fan? I don't memorize every little stat ever.

a 20 game winner is pretty big, you would remember if a guy on your team did it within the last two or three seasons.

[wessa]

well they have delgado 4th so they would need someone behind him who other teams are afraid of so they just dont walk his ass everytime. also beltran has more speed then right so it would make sense to put him in front of the order.

cliff floyd hit 34 home runs last year (delgado had 33) and had like 90 something runs batted in, i think thats enough of a scare for a number 5 hitter.

[Broken Parachute]

a 20 game winner is pretty big, you would remember if a guy on your team did it within the last two or three seasons.

Well I didn't, shoot me.

[wessa]

im from new york, carefuly what you say, i just might...

side question: heartshapedbox, you are from staten island. Do you live anywhere near the "castle house". Everytime i drove back to school in baltimore i would take the outerbridge crossing, and i would always pass this house when i was on the highway (i think it was the staten island expressway). On the top of the house, there were freakin turrets like a castle, do you know of this placE?

[Broken Parachute]

im from new york, carefuly what you say, i just might...

side question: heartshapedbox, you are from staten island. Do you live anywhere near the "castle house". Everytime i drove back to school in baltimore i would take the outerbridge crossing, and i would always pass this house when i was on the highway (i think it was the staten island expressway). On the top of the house, there were freakin turrets like a castle, do you know of this placE?

Haha, yes. I actually live very close to it. It's been there for awhile. I moved from Brooklyn to Staten Island in 2000 and it's been there since before then. I would love living in a house shaped like a castle.

[wessa]

Haha, yes. I actually live very close to it. It's been there for awhile. I moved from Brooklyn to Staten Island in 2000 and it's been there since before then. I would love living in a house shaped like a castle.

i would love to meet the people who live there, i would just walk up to them and ask "Honestly, what the fuck were you thinking?"

[xearlynovemberx]

i would love to meet the people who live there, i would just walk up to them and ask "Honestly, what the fuck were you thinking?"

that would truly be something to see