General Politics Thread III: Stimulate THIS

[caveBEAR]

It has to be because of the people who don't support Obama seem to truly hate him. I don't remember a time where someone was hated so much by nonsupporters. It's scary.

Agreed. A lot of people really, really, really, wanted Bush impeached. A lot of people really, really, really want Obama assassinated.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Agreed. A lot of people really, really, really, wanted Bush impeached. A lot of people really, really, really want Obama assassinated.

I know it's terrible to think about, but I've thought to myself I wouldn't be surprised if someone assassinated him while in office. The level of hate against Obama (both against his race and his policies). He received several death threats during the primaries when it was likely he'd be the democratic nominee.

[saysmydoctor]

Shouldn't that make it less likely people would find something like this sympathetic?
I think it's caused both extremities to get irritated.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

Fuuuuuuuuuck. I think this is Amy Hopler's friend.


hahaha I just caught this. I actually think that was Hopler's friend . The one who came into Joe's thread and spilled all that information. Maybe I'm wrong.

[xshady121]

Still in jersey. Eta now is 3 am. Fuck me

on a related note, mobile ap should hve a quick reply option.

[loveisdead]

Still in jersey. Eta now is 3 am. Fuck me

on a related note, mobile ap should hve a quick reply option.

Top left

[xshady121]

Top left


I meant a box at the bottom where I can type in straight from the thread. Like in the real version. Although, I didn't see that "post reply" before. Still in jersey too. How big is this fucking state?

[loveisdead]

Mitt Romney is xshady.
"When it comes to shifting responsibility for failure, however, no one is a more frequent object of President Obama's reproach than President Bush," said Romney. "It's wearing so thin that even the late night shows make fun of it. I am convinced that history will judge President Bush far more kindly -- he pulled us from a deepening recession following the attack of 9-11, he overcame teachers unions to test school children and evaluate schools, he took down the Taliban, waged a war against the jihadists and was not afraid to call it what it is -- a war. And he kept us safe."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/18/mitt-romney-defends-the-b_n_467654.html

[saysmydoctor]

I take solace knowing Mitt Romney will never be president.

[J.C.]

I figured Romney was going to re-mold himself again. Appears he's just going to go down the same path that made him unelectable last time.

Hopefully the Republicans continue this embracing of Bush. They can keep reminding everyone of those years so Obama won't have to.

[caveBEAR]

"When it comes to shifting responsibility for failure, however, no one is a more frequent object of President Obama's reproach than President Bush," said Romney. "It's wearing so thin that even the late night shows make fun of it. I am convinced that history will judge President Bush far more kindly -- he pulled us from a deepening recession following the attack of 9-11, he overcame teachers unions to test school children and evaluate schools, he took down the Taliban, waged a war against the jihadists and was not afraid to call it what it is -- a war. And he kept us safe."

:-| Does this mean No Child Left Behind?

[caveBEAR]

The voice actress from the 'Down Syndrome' episode of Family Guy (who actually has Down Syndrome) spoke out against Palin;

“In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes.”

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

haha awesome

[Jason Tate]

The voice actress from the 'Down Syndrome' episode of Family Guy (who actually has Down Syndrome) spoke out against Palin;
Wow. That's pretty cool.

[Jason Tate]

hahaha I just caught this. I actually think that was Hopler's friend . The one who came into Joe's thread and spilled all that information. Maybe I'm wrong.
Me too. Maybe it's really Hopler!

[Justin_stacy]

I don't remember a time where someone was hated so much by nonsupporters. It's scary.

short term memory?

[loveisdead]

short term memory?

The hate for bush was very different than the hate for Obama.

[Justin_stacy]

The hate for bush was very different than the hate for Obama.

That's how Obama supporters want to portray it, but it really isn't (or any other political figure for that matter).

[saysmydoctor]

That's how Obama supporter want to portray it, but it really isn't.
That's the way anyone who is paying attention would portray it.

[saysmydoctor]

Perhaps someone could help me out.

New York just announced a shit ton of proposed park closing. Doesn't it cost money to decommission stuff?

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

We do not need deflation now :

FT.com (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/46edaf82-1d5f-11df-b12e-00144feab49a.html): The prices of US goods and services, excluding food and fuel, fell last month for the first time since 1982...

[loveisdead]

We do not need deflation now :

FT.com (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/46edaf82-1d5f-11df-b12e-00144feab49a.html): The prices of US goods and services, excluding food and fuel, fell last month for the first time since 1982...

Eek that's definitely not what we need.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

hahahahahah omg the guy that got into a fight with Romeny on that plane was one of the guys from LMFAO :

LMFAO’s Sky Blu and Mitt Romney Scuffle on Flight to L.A.

(http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2010/02/19/lmfaos-sky-blu-and-mitt-romney-scuffle-on-flight-to-l-a/)
Earlier this week, Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney was involved in a confrontation on a flight from Vancouver to Los Angeles. His alleged assailant? Sky Blu of the electro-rap duo LMFAO, the pourers of “Shots.” According to new reports, Sky Blu had the audacity to lower his seat back prior to the flight’s takeoff, which caused Romney, who was sitting behind the rapper, to loudly request that he straighten his first class seat.
From there, things escalated, and Romney’s spokesperson told the press Sky Blu became “physically violent,” the New York Daily News reports (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/02/19/2010-02-19_rappers_lmfao_say_mitt_romney_go t_physical_first_on_flight_from_van couver.html), leading the Royal Canadian Mounted Police to remove Sky Blu from the plane. In a video posted on TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/lfmao-mitt-romney-airplane-flight-fight-video/), Sky Blu and his Party Rock accomplice Redfoo talk about their run-in with Romney, and Sky Blu insists Romney became physical first. “He grabbed my shoulder, and I was like boom get off of me,” Sky Blu said. “The man assaulted me. I was protecting myself.”
In the end, Romney did not pursue charges, and even though the police said they arrested and released Sky Blu, he claims he was never actually placed under arrest. Romney and his wife were in Vancouver for the Winter Olympics while LMFAO had a concert in the British Columbian city the night before.
Ironically, while this all went down in Vancouver, the encounter has strong ties to the city of Detroit: Even though Romney is the former Governor of Massachusetts, he was born in the Motor City, a pedigree that helped him win the Michigan Republican primary over John McCain in 2008. Sky Blu and Redfoo, meanwhile, are the nephew and son of Motown Records founder Berry Gordy, one of Detroit’s most important musical figures. Since Sky Blu seemed willing to forgive Romney for the encounter — “I’m sure he’s a good dude. It was just an unfortunate situation,” he said — maybe they can go to a Tigers game and hug it out.


http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/8/6/6/3/32323668-32323673-slarge.jpg

[saysmydoctor]

SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS
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[wrppdarndyrfngr]

This is a little too desperate:

California Town To Start Charging Up To $400 For 911 Calls (http://consumerist.com/2010/02/california-town-to-start-charging-up-to-400-for-911-calls.html)


The town of Tracy, California has come up with a new plan to make money: you'll have to pay between $48-400 to call 911 (http://cbs13.com/local/tracy.911.calls.2.1502690.html). I wonder if Tracy is planning on giving the caller the bill over the phone--they might be able to chain 911 calls together by giving the first caller a heart attack, thereby prompting someone else to call, and so on. Money!
Here's the pricing breakdown: if you want unlimited 911 calling for emergencies year round, you can pay a flat annual fee of $48. You don't have to pay that, but if you end up calling 911 and you aren't a member of the 911 club, you'll be charged $300. According to our tipster, out-of-towners will be charged $400

[Machu505]

Senator Frank Lautenberg has been diagnosed (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/19/frank-lautenberg-stomach_n_468996.html) with stomach cancer.

[Jason Tate]

This is a little too desperate:

California Town To Start Charging Up To $400 For 911 Calls (http://consumerist.com/2010/02/california-town-to-start-charging-up-to-400-for-911-calls.html)
I am either impressed ... or shocked. Not sure which yet.

[FueledByFrodo]

Senator Frank Lautenberg has been diagnosed (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/19/frank-lautenberg-stomach_n_468996.html) with stomach cancer.

Oh shit. :-(

[saysmydoctor]

http://blog.timesunion.com/localpolitics/6319/congressional-republicans-cite-troy-voter-fraud-case/

Sigh.

[caveBEAR]

This is a little too desperate:

California Town To Start Charging Up To $400 For 911 Calls (http://consumerist.com/2010/02/california-town-to-start-charging-up-to-400-for-911-calls.html)

Wouldn't see the problem with this if we didn't already pay for the service in our taxes.

[Zeran]

That's the way anyone who is paying attention would portray it.

that's what i would say, as well.

[Praetor]

This is a little too desperate:

California Town To Start Charging Up To $400 For 911 Calls (http://consumerist.com/2010/02/california-town-to-start-charging-up-to-400-for-911-calls.html)

What the fuck

[loveisdead]

This is a little too desperate:

California Town To Start Charging Up To $400 For 911 Calls (http://consumerist.com/2010/02/california-town-to-start-charging-up-to-400-for-911-calls.html)

This is absolutely absurd. To the point where it shouldn't be allowed.

[saysmydoctor]

This is a little too desperate:

California Town To Start Charging Up To $400 For 911 Calls (http://consumerist.com/2010/02/california-town-to-start-charging-up-to-400-for-911-calls.html)
Colorado Springs'd.

[Praetor]

Holy shit I'm so excited for this new Joanna Newsom record.

[loveisdead]

Holy shit I'm so excited for this new Joanna Newsom record.

Are you waiting to buy it or did you download the leak?

[Praetor]

Are you waiting to buy it or did you download the leak?

I downloaded the leak, I'm listening right now. I'm barely into the second song. I can tell that I'm gonna love it though, I'll probably end up buying it haha. How about you? You a fan?

[loveisdead]

I downloaded the leak, I'm listening right now. I'm barely into the second song. I can tell that I'm gonna love it though, I'll probably end up buying it haha. How about you? You a fan?

I've never listened to her. I just googled her when you mentioned her name and the first result was about the leak. I don't listen to nearly enough music. What's she sound like?

[Praetor]

I've never listened to her. I just googled her when you mentioned her name and the first result was about the leak. I don't listen to nearly enough music. What's she sound like?

Honestly...I can't even describe her music. She's a very skilled harpist and pianist, and one of the most underrated lyricists in modern music. She's got this really high, crackly, inaccessible voice (which really showed itself on The Milk-Eyed Mender, but she toned it down for her next album Ys, and from what I can tell, she's toned it down a lot more for the new one). It's just one of those things that you have to hear, haha. But honestly, if this doesn't send chills down your spine then nothing will.

The meadowlark and the chim-choo-ree and the sparrow
Set to the sky in a flying spree, for the sport over the pharaoh
A little while later the Pharisees dragged comb through the meadow
Do you remember what they called up to you and me, in our window?

There is a rusty light on the pines tonight
Sun pouring wine, lord, or marrow
Down into the bones of the birches
And the spires of the churches
Jutting out from the shadows
The yoke, and the axe, and the old smokestacks and the bale and the barrow
And everything sloped like it was dragged from a rope
In the mouth of the south below

We've seen those mountains kneeling, felten and grey
We thought our very hearts would up and melt away
From that snow in the nighttime
Just going
And going
And the stirring of wind chimes
In the morning
In the morning
Helps me find my way back in
From the place where I have been

And, Emily - I saw you last night by the river
I dreamed you were skipping little stones across the surface of the water
Frowning at the angle where they were lost, and slipped under forever
In a mud-cloud, mica-spangled, like the sky'd been breathing on a mirror

Anyhow - I sat by your side, by the water
You taught me the names of the stars overhead that I wrote down in my ledger
Thoough all I knew of the rote universe were those Pleiades loosed in December
I promised you I'd set them to verse so I'd always remember

That the meteorite is a source of the light
And the meteor's just what we see
And the meteoroid is a stone that's devoid of the fire that propelled it to thee

And the meteorite's just what causes the light
And the meteor's how it's perceived
And the meteoroid's a bone thrown from the void that lies quiet in offering to thee

You came and lay a cold compress upon the mess I'm in
Threw the window wide and cried, "Amen! Amen! Amen!"
The whole world stopped to hear you hollering
You looked down and saw now what was happening

The lines are fading in my kingdom
(Though I have never known the way to border them in)
So the muddy mouths of baboons and sows and the grouse and the horse and the hen
Grope at the gate of the looming lake that was once a tidy pen
And the mail is late and the great estates are not lit from within
The talk in town's becoming downright sickening

In due time we will see the far butte lit by a flare
I've seen your bravery, and I will follow you there
And row through the nighttime
Gone healthy
Gone healthy all of a sudden
In search of the midwife
Who could help me
Who could help me
Help me find my way back in
There are worries where I've been

Say, say, say in the lee of the bay; don't be bothered
Leave your troubles here where the tugboats shear the water from the water
(Flanked by furrows, curling back, like a match held up to a newspaper)
Emily, they'll follow your lead by the letter
And I make this claim, and I'm not ashamed to say I know you better
What they've seen is just a beam of your sun that banishes winter

Let us go! Though we know it's a hopeless endeavor
The ties that bind, they are barbed and spined and hold us close forever
Though there is nothing would help me come to grips with a sky that is gaping and yawning
There is a song I woke with on my lips as you sailed your great ship towards the morning

Come on home, the poppies are all grown knee-deep by now
Blossoms all have fallen, and the pollen ruins the plow
Peonies nod in the breeze and while they wetly bow
With hydrocephalitic listlessness ants mop up-a their brow

And everything with wings is restless, aimless, drunk and dour
The butterflies and birds collide at hot, ungodly hours
And my clay-colored motherlessness rangily reclines
Come on home, now! All my bones are dolorous with vines

Pa pointed out to me, for the hundredth time tonight
The way the ladle leads to a dirt-red bullet of light
Squint skyward and listen
Loving him, we move within his borders
Just asterisms in the stars' set order

We could stand for a century
Staring
With our heads cocked
In the broad daylight at this thing
Joy
Landlocked
In bodies that don't keep
Dumbstruck with the sweetness of being
Until we don't be told
Take this
Eat this

Told
The meteorite is the source of the light
And the meteor's just what we see
And the meteoroid is a stone that's devoid of the fire that propelled it to thee

And the meteorite's just what causes the light
And the meteor's how it's perceived
And the meteoroid's a bone thrown from the void that lies quiet in offering to thee

Sorry for derailing this thread, I just figured that since this is basically an intelligent version of a chat thread it would be all right. haha

[caveBEAR]

WHERE BE MY POLITICS?!


No one likes harps, anyway...
:grumblegrumble:

[loveisdead]

Honestly...I can't even describe her music. She's a very skilled harpist and pianist, and one of the most underrated lyricists in modern music. She's got this really high, crackly, inaccessible voice (which really showed itself on The Milk-Eyed Mender, but she toned it down for her next album Ys, and from what I can tell, she's toned it down a lot more for the new one). It's just one of those things that you have to hear, haha. But honestly, if this doesn't send chills down your spine then nothing will.


Sorry for derailing this thread, I just figured that since this is basically an intelligent version of a chat thread it would be all right. haha

Whatever it happens all the time haha. I'm guilty of doing it as much as anyone. And she does sound talented, I'll have to download some of her stuff.

[Praetor]

WHERE BE MY POLITICS?!


No one likes harps, anyway...
:grumblegrumble:

haha. I really really want to learn how to play the harp. And the cello. Someday.... *sigh*

[loveisdead]

WHERE BE MY POLITICS?!


No one likes harps, anyway...
:grumblegrumble:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/18/worlds-top-firms-environmental-damage
And we don't need to regulate emissions.

[Praetor]

Whatever it happens all the time haha. I'm guilty of doing it as much as anyone. And she does sound talented, I'll have to download some of her stuff.

Doooo it! And tell me what you think when you do :-)

[caveBEAR]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/18/worlds-top-firms-environmental-damage
And we don't need to regulate emissions.

Oh, poor babies. Figure out how to use the environment to your advantage or fizzle the fuck away. If capitalism is all about being the best, mightiest, smartest, etc., then make the new rules that everyone has to be eco-friendly, and let's see who's really got the ingenuity.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Fuuuuuuuuuck. I think this is Amy Hopler's friend.

I've been browsing this website for years before setting up an account and I've heard that name before on occasion... what's the story behind this inside joke?

[caveBEAR]

Doooo it! And tell me what you think when you do :-)

I'm downloading the new one and Ys to give her a shot now.

Does she go for the 'I just wandered out of a Rennaisance Fair' look, or was that just coincidental? ;-)

[Praetor]

I'm downloading the new one and Ys to give her a shot now.

Does she go for the 'I just wandered out of a Rennaisance Fair' look, or was that just coincidental? ;-)

haha I'm not sure if it was intentional or not. Whether coincidence or on purpose, it works for her. haha

Anyways, I hope you like it. :-)

[caveBEAR]

haha I'm not sure if it was intentional or not. Whether coincidence or on purpose, it works for her. haha

Anyways, I hope you like it. :-)

I just gave 'Emily' a quick listen to hear her voice (you didn't exactly sell it, lol) and she reminds me (on that track, at least) of Corrine Bailey Rae, which for me is definitely a good thing. I'll have to give it a much better listen soon, I'm engrossed in this WWI show.

[Praetor]

I just gave 'Emily' a quick listen to hear her voice (you didn't exactly sell it, lol) and she reminds me (on that track, at least) of Corrine Bailey Rae, which for me is definitely a good thing. I'll have to give it a much better listen soon, I'm engrossed in this WWI show.
haha I like people to know what they're getting into! To me, it's an imperfection that adds to the whole though, I mean, it would be really different without her voice. I haven't listened to Corinne but I've downloaded her new album, I'll probably give it a listen soon.

[saysmydoctor]

http://senatus.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/statement-from-reids-office-signals-reconciliation-public-option-remain-a-possibility/

What the fuck, where did Reid's backbone come from!?

[Praetor]

I saw that on AlterNet earlier. Figured he would have pansied out.

[Machu505]

So being 20+ points behind his opponent is what got him to not be such a dick? Sweet.

[saysmydoctor]

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PoliticalWire/~3/aqH9FQLL7aM/extra_bonus_quote_of_the_day.html

Ok, I admit, I giggled.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

I'd like to know people's thoughts on this. I'm not incredibly familiar with the details of reconciliation, but if a public option was passed through using it and given the limits it has passing through that method, do you think it would be harder to get rid of once it got through even with recon? I'd imagine once passed, something that gives insurance to the people is publically hard to remove. People could be more for it after being passed.

http://senatus.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/statement-from-reids-office-signals-reconciliation-public-option-remain-a-possibility/

What the fuck, where did Reid's backbone come from!?
He's surprised me more than once. Though this is interesting cause I saw him at some Obama town hall and he just looked like his mom died. Then again he always looks that way.

[saysmydoctor]

I think they'd be better off passing it in segments, the reconciliation process looks bad now.

[Machu505]

JPwHnU5ObPY

[caveBEAR]

JPwHnU5ObPY

Uh...how do you make a smiley of clapping hands? Someone do that for me.

[Machu505]

: appl : = :appl:

[caveBEAR]

: appl : = :appl:

:appl: to you & :appl: to The Obamanator.

[Machu505]

So it turns out Henry Louis Gates, Jr. was married to a relative of my next-door neighbor.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

I think its cool he is hosting a TV show soon. the one about showing celebs their family heritage.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

I think its cool he is hosting a TV show soon. the one about showing celebs their family heritage.
The Stephen Colbert one is pretty fascinating. (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/profiles/stephen-colbert/11/) His wife is apparently related to Oliver Cromwell.

[Mitch]

Holy shit I'm so excited for this new Joanna Newsom record.

It's wonderful.

[Mitch]

Saw a bumper sticker today that said "Celebrate diversity--Marry the OPPOSITE sex"

I hate York, PA.

[Machu505]

So I'm considering subscribing to The Christian Science Monitor. Any thoughts on this publication?

[Chancetobe]

Ok, so, I have a question. I'm apply for this fellowship program, where basically, you get a stipend to work on a campaign. I've been having a fairly hard time getting involved and can't afford to work for no money, so this is perfect. Anyway, one of the questions asks you about your most important activism. I was a press intern for a senator, which is obviously in the political realm, and helpful, I think in terms of getting a job. But, I've also done a lot of voter registration drives, which I sort of think is more important, and more "activism" than my internship, which wasn't. Which do you think I should write about? Could I work both in there, or would that be not answering the question?

[macabre]

Ok, so, I have a question. I'm apply for this fellowship program, where basically, you get a stipend to work on a campaign. I've been having a fairly hard time getting involved and can't afford to work for no money, so this is perfect. Anyway, one of the questions asks you about your most important activism. I was a press intern for a senator, which is obviously in the political realm, and helpful, I think in terms of getting a job. But, I've also done a lot of voter registration drives, which I sort of think is more important, and more "activism" than my internship, which wasn't. Which do you think I should write about? Could I work both in there, or would that be not answering the question?

I had to write a similar essay for a graduate fellowship a few weeks ago. Personally, I'd write about both but I'd make the voter registration drive the focus since that seems to be more in line with activism than being a press intern. That being said, your work as a press intern would only make your application stronger so I'd definitely include it.

[Chancetobe]

I had to write a similar essay for a graduate fellowship a few weeks ago. Personally, I'd write about both but I'd make the voter registration drive the focus since that seems to be more in line with activism than being a press intern. That being said, your work as a press intern would only make your application stronger so I'd definitely include it.
Yeah, thanks - I'm sure if I think hard enough there is a way to intertwine. And hopefully my internship not giving me a letter of rec won't fuck me over either. They said "we'll give you a reference, but we don't write letters." Used and abused.

P.S - good luck with whatever you applied for.

[macabre]

Yeah, thanks - I'm sure if I think hard enough there is a way to intertwine. And hopefully my internship not giving me a letter of rec won't fuck me over either. They said "we'll give you a reference, but we don't write letters." Used and abused.

P.S - good luck with whatever you applied for.

Thanks! I actually ended up getting it. Is this fellowship through a PAC?

[Chancetobe]

Thanks! I actually ended up getting it. Is this fellowship through a PAC?
It's from SNAP: students for a New American policy.

[macabre]

It's from SNAP: students for a New American policy.

Awesome, good luck!

[caveBEAR]

So, anyone here have an opinion on John Mayer's Playboy interview?

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

So, anyone here have an opinion on John Mayer's Playboy interview?

I don't really care for John Mayer the musician or public persona. What he said didn't personally offend me.

[caveBEAR]

I don't really care for John Mayer the musician or public persona. What he said didn't personally offend me.

I like him, so I was interested to see what he said. If the point he was trying to make was, if you're going to call it a 'hood pass', let's really call it what it is, as in 'look at how black people are still treated, let's not dance around the words and feelings', well then, good point, bad idea to drop an N-bomb in Playboy. If he was just looking to drop n-bombs, then tsk, tsk, John Mayer.

[saysmydoctor]

http://feeds.voices.washingtonpost.com/click.phdo?i=01e39e1d93f346ef5266e8 99a57bec61
I agree, kind of.

[saysmydoctor]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/health-care-meeting
The unveiling

[loveisdead]

No public option. Boooo.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

great New Yorker profile of Krugman:

The Deflationist : How Paul Krugman found politics. (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/03/01/100301fa_fact_macfarquhar?currentPa ge=all)

[asmolitor]

via paul krugman, this page (http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/02/22/obama-health-plan/) lays out, in aesthetically pleasing table form, the differences between the house/senate/obama health care versions.

[Machu505]

Any clue on whether I'll be able to stay on my parents' health insurance plan for an extended period of time?

[asmolitor]

Any clue on whether I'll be able to stay on my parents' health insurance plan for an extended period of time?

the general rule of thumb is that you can stay on as long as you're claimed as a dependent - for most people this is through college as the "fulltime student" rule. the obama plan extends this to age 26, though i don't see in practice how that theoretically matters - unless it's a subtle dig at how the employment forecast going forward looks.

[Machu505]

the general rule of thumb is that you can stay on as long as you're claimed as a dependent - for most people this is through college as the "fulltime student" rule. the obama plan extends this to age 26, though i don't see in practice how that theoretically matters - unless it's a subtle dig at how the employment forecast going forward looks.

Ok thanks. My mom will be pleased to hear this.

[Machu505]

Republican senators Scott Brown, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, and George Voinovich will break with the Senate GOP and vote for the latest jobs bill. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/22/brown-will-break-with-gop_n_472300.html)

[xshady121]

Scott Brown posted a statement on his FB page. The comments on it are HILARIOUS.

Scott Brown “I came to Washington to be an independent voice, to put politics aside, and to do everything in my power to help create jobs for Massachusetts families. This Senate jobs bill is not perfect. I wish the tax cuts were deeper and broader, but I am voting for it because it contains measures that will help put people back to work. ... I hope for improvements in that process going forward.”
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Judy Reppart conservative,conservative!! Come on!! Why sell out already?
about a minute ago

Nicholas Oliver Don't you dare!
about a minute ago

Michael Foti good stuff Senator
about a minute ago

John Donahue Vote your conscience Scott....
about a minute ago

Trish Brown Yeah & so did BO!
about a minute ago

Nate Berry it still sucks the second time you posted it, RINO.
about a minute ago

Debby Pierce Go Scott
about a minute ago

Rob Rollinger Way to set the land speed record to douche bag
about a minute ago

Shelly Ruggiero Casaretti Yeah right......... It's Reid's bill remember?
about a minute ago

Debra Hebert Sounds suspect to me!!!
about a minute ago

Zach James Durkin You've redeemed yourself
about a minute ago

Mark Kafkas dislike
about a minute ago

Bev Freeborn It's not a "Jobs Bill" It's another stimulus bill. I guess I'll have to wait for the next election to find someone FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE to vote for.
about a minute ago

Shane Curry No good Scott!!!
about a minute ago

Michelle Lang unbelievable
about a minute ago

SueAnn Kurunczi turn coat!!!!!
about a minute ago

Adam Motzko man, you had me goin on this conservative thing. you're the cancer in the republican party. what a shame...
about a minute ago

Mary Beth Comfort You ran as a republican-not an independent. Next time you run change the letter. It would help those of us who campaigned on your behalf know better. Thanks for nothing.
about a minute ago

[Theseventhson]

lol.

[Machu505]

Scott Brown '12: Cancer of the Republican Party.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

but he still drives a fucking truck!!!

[WarpSpeedChewy]

Opinion on the Obama plan ? On the surface, it seems pretty decent. I think it did the right thing with the individual mandate but on the employer mandate, it seems kinda of weak. Still better than nothing. I can deal with something moderate going through.

No public option. Boooo.
I think the public option will have to be part of reform that passed later. Thankfully, this whole thing has made it into an issue. I was kinda of hoping there would be a trigger option on the Obama plan.

great New Yorker profile of Krugman:

The Deflationist : How Paul Krugman found politics. (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/03/01/100301fa_fact_macfarquhar?currentPa ge=all)
Started reading it this morning. Thanks for posting it again.

but he still drives a fucking truck!!!
My Dad yelled this at me once. I repelled "who cares". That has to be one of the more stupid campaign lines I've heard. The enthusiasm behind it is kinda of fun, in a "how stupid they look shouting about a fucking truck" sort of way.

[Machu505]

I'm a socialist and I ride in trucks more than any other car. Did I just break the universe?

[Theseventhson]

You pretty much just divided by 0.

[saysmydoctor]

Republican senators Scott Brown, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, and George Voinovich will break with the Senate GOP and vote for the latest jobs bill. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/22/brown-will-break-with-gop_n_472300.html)
For debate on the jobs bill. This vote is as useless as when Snowe broke with her party before.



Also, this:

Trish Brown Yeah & so did BO!
about a minute ago

I lol'd.

The President has a vote in the Congress now.

[J.C.]

Cheney in the hospital reportedly.

[GeeBee]

Cheney in the hospital reportedly.

That's a shame.

[Machu505]

Yep.

[saysmydoctor]

da08j6Y6h8E&feature=player_embedded

At least he is an adorable little fucking idiot.

[xshady121]

da08j6Y6h8E&feature=player_embedded

At least he is an adorable little fucking idiot.

Smart kid with a good head on his shoulders.

although, when he's not talking about politics, he sounds like a 14 year old kid.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

I'm a socialist and I ride in trucks more than any other car. Did I just break the universe?

I believe in climate change and I drive a fucking SUV.

[Machu505]

Admitted terrorist Najibullah Zazi will plead guilty.
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/22/holder-forcefully-defends_n_472362.html)
Which raises the question, is a working justice system a good thing for America?

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

just saw Frost/Nixon for the first time. helluva movie.

[Machu505]

just saw Frost/Nixon for the first time. helluva movie.

Love that film. I remember the year it came out: my theater had a poster for it up but wasn't showing it on its release date. I was pissed like nuh uh.

[asmolitor]

just saw Frost/Nixon for the first time. helluva movie.

i just saw it this weekend on HBO.

i'm eagerly awaiting a redux of this with bush in the next decade.

[Nevuk]

Colbert's segment with the indian member of parliament was so ridiculous. Hilarious, but i've never seen him go so obviously out of his way to offend someone.

[saysmydoctor]

http://feeds.nydailynews.com/~r/nydnrss/blogs/dailypolitics/~3/bBNvR5EKhB4/nygop-debuts-new-spokesman.html
NYGOP gets a bit of Pawlenty

[loveisdead]

http://feeds.nydailynews.com/~r/nydnrss/blogs/dailypolitics/~3/bBNvR5EKhB4/nygop-debuts-new-spokesman.html
NYGOP gets a bit of Pawlenty

Gross.

[saysmydoctor]

Gross.
It's the NYGOP, it generally is.

[Simulcast]

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/02/22/specter-race-scandal-sestak-ac/

[saysmydoctor]

Secretary of the Navy is hardly high-ranking.

[saysmydoctor]

http://ncsl.typepad.com/the_thicket/2010/02/british-tradition-coming-to-arizona-legislature-.html
Questioning Brewer

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

just added this comic to my rss reader:

http://www.salon.com/ent/comics/this_modern_world/2010/01/25/this_modern_world/story.jpg

[saysmydoctor]

http://www.rollcall.com/news/43498-1.html?ET=rollcall:e6750:80085411a: &st=email
Conrad, Baucus, Durbin for Deficit Commission

[Machu505]

A girl on Facebook just seriously called me "unamerican" because I said "Butter > Guns."

[Theseventhson]

:lol:

[ChaplainTappman]

http://georgehutchins.com/
this man deserves to be elected, simply on the basis of his webpage

[Machu505]

So apparently there was a coup in Niger, a military junta was set up, and the African Union has suspended its membership.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Nigerien_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

[FueledByFrodo]

So apparently there was a coup in Niger, a military junta was set up, and the African Union has suspended its membership.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Nigerien_coup_d'%C3%A9tat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Nigerien_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat)
I underestimate Wikipedia.

[simonbelmont]

I do as well sometimes...

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

Matt Damon to play RFK in an upcoming biopic.

Thoughts?

[caveBEAR]

Matt Damon to play RFK in an upcoming biopic.

Thoughts?

.... :shrug:


He better pull this off, I like Bobby...

[xshady121]

More funny comments by hateful repubs on Scott Brown's status on FB.

Seriously, if you need a good lol, become a fan of his page and read his suporters comments.

[Jason Tate]

http://georgehutchins.com/
this man deserves to be elected, simply on the basis of his webpage
Ohwowo.

[Mitch]

That guy (Hutchins) looks sketchy as hell.

[ChaplainTappman]

Ohwowo.
JOHN WAYNE
That guy (Hutchins) looks sketchy as hell.
THE ALAMO

[saysmydoctor]

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/MKuf/~3/Lg8Z1r2e-Qs/serious-threat-to-web-in-italy.html
Interesting

[saysmydoctor]

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/.a/6a00d83451c45669e20120a8ca3bd8970b-500wi

[macabre]

The resemblance is uncanny.

http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/steele-shock-j-746504.jpg

[Jason Tate]

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/MKuf/~3/Lg8Z1r2e-Qs/serious-threat-to-web-in-italy.html
Interesting
Such bullshit.

[Machu505]

Matt Damon to play RFK in an upcoming biopic.

Thoughts?
I like it.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

The resemblance is uncanny.

http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/steele-shock-j-746504.jpg

more like

http://www.mnn.com/sites/default/files/micheal-steele-muppet.jpg

[loveisdead]

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/MKuf/~3/Lg8Z1r2e-Qs/serious-threat-to-web-in-italy.html
Interesting

Not as interesting as it is idiotic. I hate people sometimes.

[Machu505]

Jobs Bill passes Senate, 70-28 (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111 &session=2&vote=00025).

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

the House voted 406-19 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35560878/ns/business/) to repeal the insurers’ long-held exemption from anti-trust laws.

[Machu505]

the House voted 406-19 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35560878/ns/business/) to repeal the insurers’ long-held exemption from anti-trust laws.
Theodore Roosevelt is stoked.

[saysmydoctor]

KBqtyvn7OVw&feature=player_embedded

[LastPlaceRocks]

Matt Damon to play RFK in an upcoming biopic.

Thoughts?
Works for me.

Jobs Bill passes Senate, 70-28 (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111 &session=2&vote=00025).
Good.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

So apparently there was a coup in Niger, a military junta was set up, and the African Union has suspended its membership.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Nigerien_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

I guess Rep. Alan Grayson was there and was resuced by *gulp* Blackwater/Xe employees (http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/02/blackwater-xe-rescue-alan-grayson).

[Machu505]

Anthony Weiner is the best.

[loveisdead]

Anthony Weiner is the best.

Agreed. I love him.

From what I'm reading the jobs bill may not pass the house. And if it does there's gonna be a ton of pissed off people.

[xshady121]

I'm feeling like I should migrate to general or PL. I'm going through somewhat of a politics funk right now.

[loveisdead]

I'm feeling like I should migrate to general or PL. I'm going through somewhat of a politics funk right now.

How so?

[xshady121]

How so?

Midterms, studying, music, personal stuff. I'm being pulled in too many different directions.

I would talk more, but I'd be getting too far off topic, so I'll leave it at that. I've been noticeably absent here since CPAC, and for good reason.

[GeeBee]

Midterms, studying, music, personal stuff. I'm being pulled in too many different directions.

I would talk more, but I'd be getting too far off topic, so I'll leave it at that. I've been noticeably absent here since CPAC, and for good reason.

The shame and disgrace have finally gotten to you?
:-d

[xshady121]

The shame and disgrace have finally gotten to you?
:-d

Hahahaha. You're too funny. Like I said in the previous thread, I felt completely out of place amongst conservatives due to the conferences heavy reliance on social aspects of it. I think that's why the libertarian party didn't bother setting up shop there this year. I'd be tempted to go to a liberal conference should one ever present itself to me.

[Machu505]

We need to establish AP.netPAC.

[GeeBee]

Hahahaha. You're too funny. Like I said in the previous thread, I felt completely out of place amongst conservatives due to the conferences heavy reliance on social aspects of it. I think that's why the libertarian party didn't bother setting up shop there this year. I'd be tempted to go to a liberal conference should one ever present itself to me.

See, this is what's sad. Too many of the growing tea-partiers are insistent that any sort of "liberty" is inherently conservative, when that's simply not the case. I'd actually be in support of a movement that was about real liberty (in a social sense), and fiscal conservatism. I can back both sentiments. They're missing out on people of intellectually-driven conservative principles while rolling in the political mud of pseudo-issues like gay rights, abortion, etc.

[xshady121]

See, this is what's sad. Too many of the growing tea-partiers are insistent that any sort of "liberty" is inherently conservative, when that's simply not the case. I'd actually be in support of a movement that was about real liberty (in a social sense), and fiscal conservatism. I can back both sentiments. They're missing out on people of intellectually-driven conservative principles while rolling in the political mud of pseudo-issues like gay rights, abortion, etc.


The majority of the youth is more libertarian than anyone would like to admit. The old guard needs to adapt before the youth votes progressively.

[GeeBee]

The majority of the youth is more libertarian than anyone would like to admit. The old guard needs to adapt before the youth votes progressively.

True true. They're also becoming more and more pragmatic and less ideologically driven, which will hopefully turn out to be a good thing.

[caveBEAR]

:popcorn:

I like a nice movie now and again.

[saysmydoctor]

Anthony Weiner will be liveblogging through the bipartisan summit tomorrow: http://bit.ly/c01BIb

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

Anthony Weiner will be liveblogging through the bipartisan summit tomorrow: http://bit.ly/c01BIb

I wish he was actually there but this will do

[Praetor]

What time is this summit? I can't find any info on it.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

What time is this summit? I can't find any info on it.

it's streaming on cnn.com right now.

[caveBEAR]

I'm home sick today, and I just put this on, so I'll post anything interesting that's said.

[caveBEAR]

CNN, HLN, and FoxNEWS have all stopped playing the summit. I am fucking furious right now. Does anyone know another network I can watch it on? I can't stream websites.

[Praetor]

Stopped watching. Too much grandstanding, not enough substance.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

CNN, HLN, and FoxNEWS have all stopped playing the summit. I am fucking furious right now. Does anyone know another network I can watch it on? I can't stream websites.

CSPAN or CSPAN2 maybe.

[caveBEAR]

CSPAN or CSPAN2 maybe.

CSPAN has the House and CSPAN2 has the Senate. I am so fucking pissed right now. How the fuck do these channels act like our future hinges on this bill, then NOT FUCKING PLAY THE SUMMIT?!

[macabre]

I know it's not ideal but C-span.org and Whitehouse.gov are streaming the summit without any interruptions.

[caveBEAR]

I know it's not ideal but C-span.org and Whitehouse.gov are streaming the summit without any interruptions.

CNN's got it back on for now, and Biden's talking, so that'll do. I wish I could stream, but my laptop is about 6 years old...streaming video doesn't really work anymore, ha ha ha.

[caveBEAR]

Is CNN adding in patriotic music in the background, or am I losing it?

[Machu505]

Coburn has some wacky hair.

[asmolitor]

youtube friendly live streaming, in much better quality than network sites:

http://www.youtube.com/citizentube

[xshady121]

Woah woah woah, pelosi said you shuold go to jail if you don't buy health care?

[caveBEAR]

Woah woah woah, pelosi said you shuold go to jail if you don't buy health care?

Did she really? I turned it off when all channels went to commercial or interview at the same time again.

[xshady121]

Did she really? I turned it off when all channels went to commercial or interview at the same time again.

Some neocon i follow on twitter posted a heritage post where pelosi said it.

She didn't explicitly say it, but it was pretty damn close.

[caveBEAR]

Some neocon i follow on twitter posted a heritage post where pelosi said it.

She didn't explicitly say it, but it was pretty damn close.

Yeah, no thanks on that shit. I'd rather not get health care than go to jail for not being insured.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

Just now watching the summit. Any significant moments I need to catch up on ?

[xshady121]

Yeah, no thanks on that shit. I'd rather not get health care than go to jail for not being insured.

Obama tried saying in an interview today ( I think it was today) that it should be like auto insurance. That's a stupid slip up for such a well versed rhetor. Everyone knows that's apples and oranges.

[caveBEAR]

Obama tried saying in an interview today ( I think it was today) that it should be like auto insurance. That's a stupid slip up for such a well versed rhetor. Everyone knows that's apples and oranges.

Exactly. One of the reasons I'm not driving right now is because I didn't want to pay insurance.

[xshady121]

Exactly. One of the reasons I'm not driving right now is because I didn't want to pay insurance.

If you don't want to buy auto insurance, then don't drive. If you don't want to buy health insurance, um, don't live?

Those two don't correlate. It's a stupid comparison, BO. I expect better from such a well run politician.

[caveBEAR]

If you don't want to buy auto insurance, then don't drive. If you don't want to buy health insurance, um, don't live?

Those two don't correlate. It's a stupid comparison, BO. I expect better from such a well run politician.

This has actually been one of my biggest problems (one of my few, actually) with health care reform. You want to make things run smoother? Make things cheaper? That's awesome. Don't make me get insured. If things are going to be cheaper like they say, I'll just pay for them.

[xshady121]

This has actually been one of my biggest problems (one of my few, actually) with health care reform. You want to make things run smoother? Make things cheaper? That's awesome. Don't make me get insured. If things are going to be cheaper like they say, I'll just pay for them.

My biggest issue is them telling me I have to buy something from the free market. I get that it's health insurance, and it's for the greater good, but it's a slippery slope. Why should I be forced by the federal government to buy something from a private company? What's next? Red wine cuts down on heart disease, so can the government say everyone has to purchase wine?

My issue isn't health insurance. If the government wants to mandate it, then provide it. Don't mandate it and then tell me I have to line the pockets of some CEO in the process.

[caveBEAR]

My biggest issue is them telling me I have to buy something from the free market. I get that it's health insurance, and it's for the greater good, but it's a slippery slope. Why should I be forced by the federal government to buy something from a private company? What's next? Red wine cuts down on heart disease, so can the government say everyone has to purchase wine?

My issue isn't health insurance. If the government wants to mandate it, then provide it. Don't mandate it and then tell me I have to line the pockets of some CEO in the process.

Agreed 100%. You described my feelings much better, lol.

[Praetor]

My biggest issue is them telling me I have to buy something from the free market. I get that it's health insurance, and it's for the greater good, but it's a slippery slope. Why should I be forced by the federal government to buy something from a private company? What's next? Red wine cuts down on heart disease, so can the government say everyone has to purchase wine?

My issue isn't health insurance. If the government wants to mandate it, then provide it. Don't mandate it and then tell me I have to line the pockets of some CEO in the process.
Absolutely correct. An individual mandate in a private market is not only immoral, it's counterproductive.

[loveisdead]

Obama to McCain: "We're not campaigning anymore."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/24/health-care-summit-breaki_n_473945.html?page=3

Holy shit that's a shot.

[rawesome]

My biggest issue is them telling me I have to buy something from the free market. I get that it's health insurance, and it's for the greater good, but it's a slippery slope. Why should I be forced by the federal government to buy something from a private company? What's next? Red wine cuts down on heart disease, so can the government say everyone has to purchase wine?

My issue isn't health insurance. If the government wants to mandate it, then provide it. Don't mandate it and then tell me I have to line the pockets of some CEO in the process.
I don't know if anyone has ever been as right about anything before as you are right here.

[rawesome]

I'm incredibly busy with school until next Wednesday, can someone please sum up the summit for me? Just the main points. Thanks?

[caveBEAR]

I'm incredibly busy with school until next Wednesday, can someone please sum up the summit for me? Just the main points. Thanks?

Obama: What issues do you guys want to talk about specifically?
Democrats: We're loosing money, Medicare is broke, insurance companies are technically monopolies, pre-existing conditions, etc., etc.
Republicans: BOOK BIG! YOU MAKE PAPER WITHOUT US! MEETING SCARY! START OVER START OVER START OVER!!!



I'm not being sarcastic either...that's pretty much an abridged version of 6 hours.

[rawesome]

Obama: What issues do you guys want to talk about specifically?
Democrats: We're loosing money, Medicare is broke, insurance companies are technically monopolies, pre-existing conditions, etc., etc.
Republicans: BOOK BIG! YOU MAKE PAPER WITHOUT US! MEETING SCARY! START OVER START OVER START OVER!!!



I'm not being sarcastic either...that's pretty much an abridged version of 6 hours.
Okay well, glad I missed it.

Thanks!

[caveBEAR]

Okay well, glad I missed it.

Thanks!

You didn't miss a thing. Reid came out after the meeting and basically said 'fuck it, let's push it through, we tried'. They really did, too. The Democrats were great, the Republicans were grasping straws, and acting like the Democrats were the ones who were assholes. It was maddening to watch, especially since CNN and FoxNEWS would cut away whenever someone on the 'other side' was talking, so I constantly had to jump back and forth.

[lauren<3s music]

someone should bitch slap Jim Bunning. he drives me nuts. That's all. Bye again

[loveisdead]

someone should bitch slap Jim Bunning. he drives me nuts. That's all. Bye again

You got it Lauren. I'm all over it.

[lauren<3s music]

You got it Lauren. I'm all over it.
please tell me your a mod for politics forum.. that might make me as happy as merkley's speech.

[loveisdead]

please tell me your a mod for politics forum.. that might make me as happy as merkley's speech.

I am.

[lauren<3s music]

I am.
that's awesome.

watching this has reconfirmed, i am in fact a crazy liberal.

[caveBEAR]

So, completely unrelated to Politics; has anyone ever played lowball poker? Specifically Razz Poker? I'm cleaning up, but this is messing with my head. I keep winning with hands like A, 2, 4, 6, 7.

I'm so confused.



Oh, and the health care bill is really, really big.

[lauren<3s music]

So, completely unrelated to Politics; has anyone ever played lowball poker? Specifically Razz Poker? I'm cleaning up, but this is messing with my head. I keep winning with hands like A, 2, 4, 6, 7.

I'm so confused.



Oh, and the health care bill is really, really big.
try reading each chamber's draft version, committee version, merged version, and final version. 2400 pages feels easy now.

[caveBEAR]

try reading each chamber's draft version, committee version, merged version, and final version. 2400 pages feels easy now.

Ha ha ha, I was just referring to the Summit today. I've been pissed off at the Republicans all day because of it.

[lauren<3s music]

Ha ha ha, I was just referring to the Summit today. I've been pissed off at the Republicans all day because of it.
that was a joke. you want to be pissed at republicans - cspan.

[caveBEAR]

that was a joke. you want to be pissed at republicans - cspan.

Right now? Is something happening?

[lauren<3s music]

Right now? Is something happening?
voting on extending unemployment benefits, cobra, small business loans, sgr, satellite for tv act, and something else for 30 days. bunning keeps objecting. UGH

[caveBEAR]

voting on extending unemployment benefits, cobra, small business loans, sgr, satellite for tv act, and something else for 30 days. bunning keeps objecting. UGH

Yeah, I just tuned in and the first word I heard was a Republican saying 'communist'.


What? Are we fucking 12 years old? God damn it.





What the fuck is Steve King rambling about?

[lauren<3s music]

oh i'm watching the senate not the house sorry. i usually ignore king. iowa scares me.

[caveBEAR]

Since the Republicans have been freaking out all day about the fact that the Health Care Bill was written in 'formerly smoke-filled rooms', can someone show me the website that broadcasts all day the meetings Republicans have forming their legislature? I'd really like to see all of their doings out in the open.

[caveBEAR]

oh i'm watching the senate not the house sorry. i usually ignore king. iowa scares me.

Oooh, a Democrat speaking. Thank god. Good call.

[joeag1985]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8537925.stm

Oh no, Gaddafi's mad.

[kofiadrian]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8537925.stm

Oh no, Gaddafi's mad.



Switzerland is the last country i'd expect to have a holy war launched against.

[lauren<3s music]

McCaskill is losing her shit. It's AWESOME. hahaha. god help me I think after today, this is the highlight of my week.

[Machu505]

Clearly yodeling angers the prophet.

[caveBEAR]

Republican. Politicians. Are. Mother. Fuckers.

[caveBEAR]

Let's hear this, Bunning.


- OK, a long time ago, Democrats wanted to spend more.

Him speaking is like listening to paint dry.


EDIT: Ha ha ha, Durbin called him on skirting the real issues and talking about nothing.

[Machu505]

Barack Obama: Does he hate God? (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/02/25/88475/obama-aides-to-meet-with-atheists.html)

[caveBEAR]

Barack Obama: Does he hate God? (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/02/25/88475/obama-aides-to-meet-with-atheists.html)

What next?! Strike the Lord's name from the Pledge?! What would the Founding Father's think!?

[caveBEAR]

Sen. Begich, calling upon the Republican to explain why he objects to this unemployment extension; 'When it's midnight here, it's 8:00 in Alaska, so I've got plenty of time'.

:lol:

[lauren<3s music]

Actually this is how the senate works and if the general public doesn't know how the senate rules work then they should continue to do it and consider it an educational experience.

[caveBEAR]

Is Corker sitting there saying that he will stay all night and argue that the Senator from Kentucky didn't know this was happening...when he did know it was happening? This is fucking ridiculous.

[caveBEAR]

Actually this is how the senate works and if the general public doesn't know how the senate rules work then they should continue to do it and consider it an educational experience.

So are the Republicans right in this instance? What is going on?! I'm so confused.

[lauren<3s music]

So are the Republicans right in this instance? What is going on?! I'm so confused.
no. corker is saying that the dems didn't notify the Rs that they'd hold the floor all night when he said he'd object. i'm betting they did but no one thought they would.

i was saying, most people don't realize that one senator can hold up any piece of legislation that is brought to the senate floor under a unanimous consent agreement (uc)

[caveBEAR]

no. corker is saying that the dems didn't notify the Rs that they'd hold the floor all night when he said he'd object. i'm betting they did but no one thought they would.

i was saying, most people don't realize that one senator can hold up any piece of legislation that is brought to the senate floor under a unanimous consent agreement (uc)

OK...this is interesting me greatly, but I'm not sure I'm gripping the whole thing. (If you don't mind) could you just sum up what has happened in non-C-SPAN Bear-Speak? 0:-)

[lauren<3s music]

OK...this is interesting me greatly, but I'm not sure I'm gripping the whole thing. (If you don't mind) could you just sum up what has happened in non-C-SPAN Bear-Speak? 0:-)
corker basically said you didn't tell us that you were going to publicly call him on holding this back because he's using a procedural tactic. most people don't know senate procedure - the dems are taking this as an opportunity to corner republicans. this is just the first step.

[caveBEAR]

corker basically said you didn't tell us that you were going to publicly call him on holding this back because he's using a procedural tactic. most people don't know senate procedure - the dems are taking this as an opportunity to corner republicans. this is just the first step.

The Senator was going to pull this shit without the public knowing about it?

[caveBEAR]

Bernie Sanders is a beast. How have I not man-crushed on this guy before?

[lauren<3s music]

oh bernie - you make me happy

[lauren<3s music]

The Senator was going to pull this shit without the public knowing about it?
normally they don't make this big of a deal of a block. senators do it all the time. normally if you do this, you let the other side know as a courtesy.

[caveBEAR]

normally they don't make this big of a deal of a block. senators do it all the time. normally if you do this, you let the other side know as a courtesy.

So who didn't let who know what?

[lauren<3s music]

So who didn't let who know what?
durbin let bunning know. corker thought he didn't. aka he was bitching about nothing.

[caveBEAR]

durbin let bunning know. corker thought he didn't. aka he was bitching about nothing.

Republicans have just been disgusting me left and right today.

[Nevuk]

Ahhh, Bunning, without you where would my state turn for guidance?

Oh wait.

[caveBEAR]

:wallbash:

EDIT: Ha ha ha ha, Corker complained about the Democrats not following procedure, then he apparently broke the rules calling for unanimous consent during a question. Ooooooh, teh lulz were brought by C-SPAN2.


BUNNING: 'It's called an 'ambush'' :lol:



Awwwww...Bunning is sad he missed a basketball game tonight. Fuck the people he's screwing over...he wanted to see if they could finally knick South Carolina! Poor, poor guy. Ambushed and missed the big game!? It's like an 80's teen comedy in 'Nam.

[caveBEAR]

I think Grandpa is getting sleepy, he's getting a little non-sensical now.

[rawesome]

Republicans have just been disgusting me left and right today.
I feel like there is a "left and right" joke to be made here...

[caveBEAR]

I feel like there is a "left and right" joke to be made here...

Ha ha ha, I'd have jumped on it had I not been so furious today. Between the Health Summit and the CSPAN2 Senate Debacle...I'm all outta angst.

[xshady121]

Filling out the form to become a senator here. All i need is 30 signatures. I have all my friends ID numbers so I was thinking of filling the signatures out myself. What a great way to start of my political career-- vote fraud. I'd fit right in with the classic Boston machine.

[loveisdead]

Filling out the form to become a senator here. All i need is 30 signatures. I have all my friends ID numbers so I was thinking of filling the signatures out myself. What a great way to start of my political career-- vote fraud. I'd fit right in with the classic Boston machine.

Haha. Good luck.

[xshady121]

Haha. Good luck.

Had I known the only qualifications for becoming a senator are 30 signatures on a piece of paper, I would have done so earlier. Our SGA here is a mess. Impeachments, secret executive meetings, backstabbing... I'm excited.

Although, it may all boil down to the whole "bros before hos" adage.

[Machu505]

Awesome. You have the much-coveted Massie endorsement.

[rawesome]

Filling out the form to become a senator here. All i need is 30 signatures. I have all my friends ID numbers so I was thinking of filling the signatures out myself. What a great way to start of my political career-- vote fraud. I'd fit right in with the classic Boston machine.
At your college?

[xshady121]

At your college?

Yessir.

[rawesome]

Yessir.
Oh neat. I'm in a similar situation, as it looks likely that I'll be thrust into the role of President of the College Democrats, which will mean attending Student Senate meetings on behalf of the group.

[xshady121]

Oh neat. I'm in a similar situation, as it looks likely that I'll be thrust into the role of President of the College Democrats, which will mean attending Student Senate meetings on behalf of the group.

We have a separate senator for the CRs here, it isn't any of the eboard members. There is a top SGA seat up, and one of the CRs is running for it (as a former senator). Senators vote for the position, so it kind of is beneficial to him if I can get this all done in time for the vote at the end of the semester. Kind of excited though, according to our paper, the SGA here is quite a clusterfuck.

The CDs here are a miserable group here though. No presence, poorly run. Quite an embarrassment.

[rawesome]

We have a separate senator for the CRs here, it isn't any of the eboard members. There is a top SGA seat up, and one of the CRs is running for it (as a former senator). Senators vote for the position, so it kind of is beneficial to him if I can get this all done in time for the vote at the end of the semester. Kind of excited though, according to our paper, the SGA here is quite a clusterfuck.

The CDs here are a miserable group here though. No presence, poorly run. Quite an embarrassment.
That does sound cool. My school is really small, so College politics are disgustingly skewed in favor of a few students, so I've always stayed out of it.

The Dems here were awful too. It seems each grade has their primary Liberal who takes charge of the group (I was never involved) and when the girl graduated last year it literally just disappeared. I have always felt really outnumbered by Conservatives (though we have a dominantly Liberal faculty) but just recently discovered a bunch of students who want to get the group back together, so I'm sort of spearheading the movement. I'm pretty excited about it.

[xshady121]

That does sound cool. My school is really small, so College politics are disgustingly skewed in favor of a few students, so I've always stayed out of it.

The Dems here were awful too. It seems each grade has their primary Liberal who takes charge of the group (I was never involved) and when the girl graduated last year it literally just disappeared. I have always felt really outnumbered by Conservatives (though we have a dominantly Liberal faculty) but just recently discovered a bunch of students who want to get the group back together, so I'm sort of spearheading the movement. I'm pretty excited about it.

Last thing I tried to spearhead was to resurrect the defunct Super Smash Bros Group. We had started a group freshman year about smash, but the only people that ended up showing up were a small group of friends so it died. It was easier to just play in our dorm. Flash forward to this year, I go to ressurect it when I find out a bunch of n00bz started one for the Wii/GC versions only. Fucking posers. Everyone knows that 64 smash (and it's japanese cousin, Nintendo!Allstars) are the only true worthwhile ones to play.

[rawesome]

Last thing I tried to spearhead was to resurrect the defunct Super Smash Bros Group. We had started a group freshman year about smash, but the only people that ended up showing up were a small group of friends so it died. It was easier to just play in our dorm. Flash forward to this year, I go to ressurect it when I find out a bunch of n00bz started one for the Wii/GC versions only. Fucking posers. Everyone knows that 64 smash (and it's japanese cousin, Nintendo!Allstars) are the only true worthwhile ones to play.
Hahahaha. Fucking unmotivated college students.

[xshady121]

Hahahaha. Fucking unmotivated college students.

Yeah. I should leave that part off of my "Why I would make a good senator" essay.

[Machu505]

Congressman Trent Franks (R-AZ), a noted honky, claims that black people are worse off now than they were during slavery because of abortion (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/26/gop-rep-blacks-worse-off_n_478744.html).

[saysmydoctor]

Paterson saved the Dem ticket by breaking the law. God bless him.

[loveisdead]

Last thing I tried to spearhead was to resurrect the defunct Super Smash Bros Group. We had started a group freshman year about smash, but the only people that ended up showing up were a small group of friends so it died. It was easier to just play in our dorm. Flash forward to this year, I go to ressurect it when I find out a bunch of n00bz started one for the Wii/GC versions only. Fucking posers. Everyone knows that 64 smash (and it's japanese cousin, Nintendo!Allstars) are the only true worthwhile ones to play.
I'm fairly certain I am unbeatable in the 64 version. That's all I did in college. Who do you play as?

[xshady121]

I'm fairly certain I am unbeatable in the 64 version. That's all I did in college. Who do you play as?

Okay. It is on. I don't care where you are right now, but in the future you and I are meeting up and playing smash.

Freshman year, we played (and I'm sadly not kidding here) no less than 12 hours a day. I am easily the worst in my group, and I can say with certainty I can beat 95% of anyone else I will ever play in my life.

And I'm donkey kong. He is so unreasonably awesome in that game. My friends comment on my playing ability because I don't use any smash attacks. Just z roll and back through.

Although, I can double jump cancel pretty well with ness.

[loveisdead]

Okay. It is on. I don't care where you are right now, but in the future you and I are meeting up and playing smash.

Freshman year, we played (and I'm sadly not kidding here) no less than 12 hours a day. I am easily the worst in my group, and I can say with certainty I can beat 95% of anyone else I will ever play in my life.

And I'm donkey kong. He is so unreasonably awesome in that game. My friends comment on my playing ability because I don't use any smash attacks. Just z roll and back through.

Although, I can double jump cancel pretty well with ness.
yeah it's on. I'll probably be in Boston in the night to distant future and we'll settle this then.

[xshady121]

yeah it's on. I'll probably be in Boston in the night to distant future and we'll settle this then.

I don't have a smash system (what normal people call a n64) at my place. But, I will graciously welcome you into my friends house. They love fresh meat.

Seriously though, let me pm you my number.

[loveisdead]

I don't have a smash system (what normal people call a n64) at my place. But, I will graciously welcome you into my friends house. They love fresh meat.

Seriously though, let me pm you my number.

Go ahead. Next time I'm in the area (or you're in mine) we'll get in touch and settle this. I've only played once since graduation and that was only because this kid at the bar I was at challenged me haha. He was also DK.

[xshady121]

Go ahead. Next time I'm in the area (or you're in mine) we'll get in touch and settle this. I've only played once since graduation and that was only because this kid at the bar I was at challenged me haha. He was also DK.

Where you at in long island? I'm headed to NY this week but won't have free time.

[loveisdead]

Where you at in long island? I'm headed to NY this week but won't have free time.

Pretty far east. About 15 minutes from the hamptons.

[xshady121]

Pretty far east. About 15 minutes from the hamptons.

Psh. The farthest east I have ever been is Patchouge. I'm never going that far out again.

[saysmydoctor]

Psh. The farthest east I have ever been is Patchouge. I'm never going that far out again.
Do not blame you.

[open mind]

Okay. It is on. I don't care where you are right now, but in the future you and I are meeting up and playing smash.

Freshman year, we played (and I'm sadly not kidding here) no less than 12 hours a day. I am easily the worst in my group, and I can say with certainty I can beat 95% of anyone else I will ever play in my life.

And I'm donkey kong. He is so unreasonably awesome in that game. My friends comment on my playing ability because I don't use any smash attacks. Just z roll and back through.

Although, I can double jump cancel pretty well with ness.

smash bros. fighting system is a joke......give virtua fighter or street fighter a go.

[xshady121]

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Nixon D. Jaquez I am too.
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Mary Hood I he trust worthy or will he follow your foot steps?
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Karla Lund-Montijano I'm still mad at you Scott Brown!
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Bret Holbert Why did you vote for the jobs bill?
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Nixon D. Jaquez ^ Agreed
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Eric Hobbs Does he support big government spending "jobs" bills too?
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Nixon D. Jaquez I am too.
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Mary Hood I he trust worthy or will he follow your foot steps?
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Funny how the conservative radio hosts I tend to listen to went from "Scott Brown is a TEA Party Patriot who overtook Kennedy's seat!!!!" to "I had my doubts about that Scott Brown... not exactly the model conservative."

[loveisdead]

This is depressingly accurate.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/27/youre-so-vain/