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I will try to be careful because i am not an expert on the european leagues, but i was arguing with a friend over which league was the best. I thought it was Serie A in Italy but you can make a case for a few others.
best is subjective.
Italian - slow-paced, low pressing, wing based attacks... teams built from the defence forward basically - i wouldnt say it was the most exciting, but has a high proportion of quality teams (Juve, Milan, Inter, Roma)
Spanish - fast-paced, low pressing, basically non-contact which is annoying... very varied in the way teams attack, probably the most 'skillful' league, and imo the most entertaining as well... huge amount of quality teams, and every year there manages to be a surprise team as well. (Barca, R Madrid, A Madrid, R Betis, Valencia, Villareal, Sevilla). I watch the Spanish league as much as i can, but the diving (or 'simulation...') annoys me no end.
English - fastest pace, high pressing, high-contact, marginally skillful... as a whole the english football league system is the best, no other nation has such a high proportion of competition upsets, with low league teams beating premiership opponents... combines skill with the physical nature of the game.
German - well... arent there only 3 german teams? Bayern, Shalke and Werder Bremen... pretty boring league imo.
French - poor... Lyon are simply stunning, but other than them the league isnt good at all... i watch Monaco games when theyre on, but im never impressed even though i like the club.
i've only ever watched MLS on ocassion, seemed very slow... not my cup of tea, i prefer pacey games, like spanish and english.
weezer182
04/05/06, 01:33 PM
why is the mls even on this list????
Scott Weber
04/05/06, 01:34 PM
USA! USA! USA!
But seriously. I prefer English Premier.
Scott Weber
04/05/06, 01:34 PM
somebody voted for it
best is subjective.
Italian - slow-paced, low pressing, wing based attacks... teams built from the defence forward basically - i wouldnt say it was the most exciting, but has a high proportion of quality teams (Juve, Milan, Inter, Roma)
Spanish - fast-paced, low pressing, basically non-contact which is annoying... very varied in the way teams attack, probably the most 'skillful' league, and imo the most entertaining as well... huge amount of quality teams, and every year there manages to be a surprise team as well. (Barca, R Madrid, A Madrid, R Betis, Valencia, Villareal, Sevilla). I watch the Spanish league as much as i can, but the diving (or 'simulation...') annoys me no end.
English - fastest pace, high pressing, high-contact, marginally skillful... as a whole the english football league system is the best, no other nation has such a high proportion of competition upsets, with low league teams beating premiership opponents... combines skill with the physical nature of the game.
German - well... arent there only 3 german teams? Bayern, Shalke and Werder Bremen... pretty boring league imo.
French - poor... Lyon are simply stunning, but other than them the league isnt good at all... i watch Monaco games when theyre on, but im never impressed even though i like the club.
i've only ever watched MLS on ocassion, seemed very slow... not my cup of tea, i prefer pacey games, like spanish and english.
by the way, the mls option was a joke. You are lucky that you don't get to see the mls. It's pretty bad.
weezer182
04/05/06, 01:39 PM
the epl is by far my favorite league
i think after the way arsenal made juve look like the new england revolution, i want to change my vote to the premiership.
Adeniz19
04/05/06, 01:46 PM
over here we have alot of portuguese immigrants to the portuguese premeir league is big here. i don't follow tho
lanolynn
04/05/06, 01:47 PM
epl, but i don't have as much access to the other leagues.
xglassjawx
04/05/06, 01:48 PM
MLS!?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
English fucking premier league. Sorry yanks. I'm patriotic. :)
fire on my lips
04/05/06, 02:00 PM
MLS!?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
English fucking premier league. Sorry yanks. I'm patriotic. :)
I voted the Spanish Primera, but the EPL is my religion, simply because I'm able to watch like 6 games a week. The MLS is absolute shit. I hope the Red Bull money gets the New York team some good foreing players, because the entire league is just shit. I wish I was around for the New York Cosmos. That lineup gives me chills.
Your avatar/user title is simply the best of this site, by far.
I voted the Spanish Primera, but the EPL is my religion, simply because I'm able to watch like 6 games a week. The MLS is absolute shit. I hope the Red Bull money gets the New York team some good foreing players, because the entire league is just shit. I wish I was around for the New York Cosmos. That lineup gives me chills.
Your avatar/user title is simply the best of this site, by far.
i always want to go to see the metrostars/red bulls but the commute to giants stadium is way too far.
xglassjawx
04/05/06, 02:07 PM
I voted the Spanish Primera, but the EPL is my religion, simply because I'm able to watch like 6 games a week. The MLS is absolute shit. I hope the Red Bull money gets the New York team some good foreing players, because the entire league is just shit. I wish I was around for the New York Cosmos. That lineup gives me chills.
Your avatar/user title is simply the best of this site, by far.
Hahahaha. Cheers. :) That's great.
fire on my lips
04/05/06, 02:33 PM
i always want to go to see the metrostars/red bulls but the commute to giants stadium is way too far.
You make H-ton sound like it's Montauk. lol. It's really not worth the drive, unless they give out a lot of Red Bull. That would make it worth it to me. There is an interview in todays NY Times with the Chief Executive of Red Bull or something. It's in the soccer part of the sports section and is a totally worthless interview, but I thought I should mention it.
fire on my lips
04/05/06, 02:35 PM
Hahahaha. Cheers. :) That's great.
I'm suprised you don't have the "Reading Promotion" user title, I know they clinched, but you could jinx them for next season. lol, not that I'm complaining about Muse or anything.
RANDOM: I just found Showbiz last weekend in the US. I'm still pumped about that. I didn't know it was avalible
i get newsday, oh well.
and it is pretty far, i think its like an hour and a half. why drive that far to see mediocre soccer. They need to get a team on long island (rough riders, what...)
believethehyph
04/05/06, 02:43 PM
My complete unbiased (yeah right) vote would be for my local English Premiership.
My complete unbiased (yeah right) vote would be for my local English Premiership.
local welsh english premiership
fire on my lips
04/05/06, 02:55 PM
local welsh english premiership
You mean Cardiff City? lol
You mean Cardiff City? lol
haha yea i know... but they arent in the premiership ;)
i was just pissin about haha
weezer182
04/05/06, 03:07 PM
who voted for the mls?
fire on my lips
04/05/06, 03:09 PM
who voted for the mls?
This really should be a public poll...
somethingyellow
04/05/06, 04:43 PM
epl
preppyak
04/05/06, 05:11 PM
haha, that's more votes for the MLS than the Italian A...wow
I got EPL followed by the Italian league...if Baggio still played in Italy, it'd probably put my vote towards the league that held his PK missing ass.
fire on my lips
04/05/06, 05:38 PM
the mls has four votes. this is insane
weezer182
04/05/06, 05:39 PM
the mls has four votes. this is insaneit has to be from americans who never watch soccer
it has to be from americans who never watch soccer
theyre missing out, football is an awesome sport, takes something special to touch every continent of the world and pretty much every country
theyre missing out, football is an awesome sport, takes something special to touch every continent of the world and pretty much every country
trust me man, there are people who appreciate soccer in the usa. but a vast majority of americans are stupid and stubborn, and they can't understand the beauty of a game that may only end 1-0. One of the best soccer games i saw ended 0-0, i forgot who played, it was a couple of months ago, i think it was man u and arsenal. the other problem is that our soccer isn't very skillful so we do not have a good product to watch. I'm pretty sure that most of our mls teams would match up with the teams in the second league in england (the one under the premiership, i forget what it is called.) Even then they probably wouldn't have a winning record against those teams.
frankly, i love soccer. I think crossing a ball from the corner to a guy running to the far post and for him to take that ball and put it in the top corner of the net with his head is pretty much the hardest thing to do in sports. american's can't appreciate this.
fire on my lips
04/05/06, 07:36 PM
trust me man, there are people who appreciate soccer in the usa. but a vast majority of americans are stupid and stubborn, and they can't understand the beauty of a game that may only end 1-0. One of the best soccer games i saw ended 0-0, i forgot who played, it was a couple of months ago, i think it was man u and arsenal. the other problem is that our soccer isn't very skillful so we do not have a good product to watch. I'm pretty sure that most of our mls teams would match up with the teams in the second league in england (the one under the premiership, i forget what it is called.) Even then they probably wouldn't have a winning record against those teams.
frankly, i love soccer. I think crossing a ball from the corner to a guy running to the far post and for him to take that ball and put it in the top corner of the net with his head is pretty much the hardest thing to do in sports. american's can't appreciate this.
it's called the Coca-Cola Championship, and to think people don't like the New York Red Bulls. God bless consumerism. lol
I'd put the MLS on par with Division 1, solely because every year a few Championship teams beat Premiership teams in the FA and Carling Cups. of course a division 1 team did win this year against a certain team (goddamn grimsby town).
The two sports that fit the most perfectly into the american theme of sports are soccer and rugby. Rugby more so then soccer. Rubgy has so much action and hits and something is always happening. I relaly don't understand why people haven't tried to show this more in America.
I think the reason these sports aren't big here is because there are no timeouts, no stoppages in play. Americans need a reason to flip through the channels and watch something new for two minutes and then go back to what they were watching. Also if they're were commercials, more money would be put into the sport, which would broaden its exposure, etc.
I remember how when i was younger (I'm 17) and everyone my age played soccer, people would say how since we play soccer, we would continue to watch soccer and the sport would evolve and we would become very good at it. This really hasn't happened at all.
Sorry to make this so long.
El_Jeffe
04/06/06, 02:45 AM
English Premiership by miles
to me there is no other football league that matters
going off that list
Crocodile Logic
04/06/06, 05:46 AM
EPL, hands down.
and although Lyon definitely dominates Ligue 1, PSG isn't bad at all.
xglassjawx
04/06/06, 06:06 AM
I'm suprised you don't have the "Reading Promotion" user title, I know they clinched, but you could jinx them for next season. lol, not that I'm complaining about Muse or anything.
RANDOM: I just found Showbiz last weekend in the US. I'm still pumped about that. I didn't know it was avalible
Hahaha, meh, you could always by it off a UK site, even though pounds are a bit more expensive. And I used to have a Reading avatar and user title like two weeks ago. My mum's a huge Reading fan as well so that's cool.
EPL, hands down.
and although Lyon definitely dominates Ligue 1, PSG isn't bad at all.
they arent really showing it this season haha. theyre 8th arent they?
eversosweetTEN
04/06/06, 06:24 AM
i voted for the english premiership but there was contemplation for the MLS only because i know kids that play and it makes it 10x better for me
It's not that I'm spanish, but I think is the best one. Look at the Champions League semi finals. 2 spanish teams, 1 italian and 1 english team.
It's not that I'm spanish, but I think is the best one. Look at the Champions League semi finals. 2 spanish teams, 1 italian and 1 english team.
Villareal were kinda lucky to get through... and theyre as much an spanish team as arsenal are an english team... Villareal are a south american team haha
Villareal were kinda lucky to get through... and theyre as much an spanish team as arsenal are an english team... Villareal are a south american team hahaI don't think Villareal were lucky. I think they played really well and they diserved some more.
We are talking about leagues, not about national teams. One of the good things of the spanish league is that there are a lot of players and coaches of different countries.
Crocodile Logic
04/06/06, 08:10 AM
they arent really showing it this season haha. theyre 8th arent they?
yeah, they're not doing all that well this season, but then again, what team in that league is? (other than OL).
do any of you that follow european football (pretty much all of you seem to live in europe) find it to be a problem that the same teams are at the top of the divisions every year? This is the only thing about the sport that gets me down. Every year we know that Lyon will dominate the french league. Chelsea and Man U dominate in the premiership. You can pencil in Juventus, AC Milan, and Inter as the top three in Serie A. Celtic, Hearts, and Rangers in Scotland. Bayern Munich seems to win the bundesliga every year. The primera seems to be a little more competitive but barcelona and real madrid still seem to be powerhouses.
Doesn't this trend annoy anybody? In American sports, the teams are not as predictable. During the last baseball season, the Chicago White Sox came out of nowhere to win the World Series and they hadn't won the championship in like 90 years. The lack of different champions makes european soccer a little predictable.
fire on my lips
04/06/06, 01:51 PM
do any of you that follow european football (pretty much all of you seem to live in europe) find it to be a problem that the same teams are at the top of the divisions every year? This is the only thing about the sport that gets me down. Every year we know that Lyon will dominate the french league. Chelsea and Man U dominate in the premiership. You can pencil in Juventus, AC Milan, and Inter as the top three in Serie A. Celtic, Hearts, and Rangers in Scotland. Bayern Munich seems to win the bundesliga every year. The primera seems to be a little more competitive but barcelona and real madrid still seem to be powerhouses.
Doesn't this trend annoy anybody? In American sports, the teams are not as predictable. During the last baseball season, the Chicago White Sox came out of nowhere to win the World Series and they hadn't won the championship in like 90 years. The lack of different champions makes european soccer a little predictable.
last year, everyione was predicting Everton to either be relegated or finish in the lower half of the table. They came out of no where to finish fourth. Blackburn won the Premiership in, i believe, 1995. Wigan this year has challenged and could get a place in Europe, same with West Ham. You also omitted Arsenal and Liverpool, but I'm sure that was just an oversight. Then again those teams are, respectively, french and spanish.
Hearts hasn't challenged the Old Firm the way they have this year in ages (That being said Celtic clinched. No last day tears this year). Also, there was more talk of this a few years ago (When Rangers weren't absolute shit), but some people want Celtic and Rangers in the Premiership, because their budgets are close to the same of the top English teams and years above the rest of the Scottish teams.
Roma occasionally mixes it up in the Serie A, and although I don't follow it, I believe that a newly promoted team or something was like third a few months ago.
The French League, ah what can i say. they're french. PSG and Marseille suck this year. Lyon is easily the best team.
The Primera has a lot of variation in the top 4.
All the teams that you have mentioned have HUGE budgets. The only exception is PSG and Lyon. PSG has the biggest budget in the league while Lyon's isnt as big.
The way to compare this would be with baseball (the only american sport without a salary cap). The best teams in baseball right now are the Yankees, the Red Sox, the White Sox, A's, Mets, Braves, and the Cards. All of these teams have two things in common. They will all (except the A's) draw near or over two million people this year. This in turn allows them to spend a large amount of money and (theoretically) produce a better team. Although the White Sox "came out of nowhere," it wasn't like they had finished last in their division the year before. Also, the champions of these soccer leagues are all based on 38 games where you play each team twice. With baseball there are som many more games and you record can change depending on if you are in a very easy division (NL Central or West) or a very hard division (AL East).
Maybe some europeans can explain that better and with stuff about tradition and how it creates rivalries and excitement, but thats all i have.
last year, everyione was predicting Everton to either be relegated or finish in the lower half of the table. They came out of no where to finish fourth. Blackburn won the Premiership in, i believe, 1995. Wigan this year has challenged and could get a place in Europe, same with West Ham. You also omitted Arsenal and Liverpool, but I'm sure that was just an oversight. Then again those teams are, respectively, french and spanish.
Hearts hasn't challenged the Old Firm the way they have this year in ages (That being said Celtic clinched. No last day tears this year). Also, there was more talk of this a few years ago (When Rangers weren't absolute shit), but some people want Celtic and Rangers in the Premiership, because their budgets are close to the same of the top English teams and years above the rest of the Scottish teams.
Roma occasionally mixes it up in the Serie A, and although I don't follow it, I believe that a newly promoted team or something was like third a few months ago.
The French League, ah what can i say. they're french. PSG and Marseille suck this year. Lyon is easily the best team.
The Primera has a lot of variation in the top 4.
All the teams that you have mentioned have HUGE budgets. The only exception is PSG and Lyon. PSG has the biggest budget in the league while Lyon's isnt as big.
The way to compare this would be with baseball (the only american sport without a salary cap). The best teams in baseball right now are the Yankees, the Red Sox, the White Sox, A's, Mets, Braves, and the Cards. All of these teams have two things in common. They will all (except the A's) draw near or over two million people this year. This in turn allows them to spend a large amount of money and (theoretically) produce a better team. Although the White Sox "came out of nowhere," it wasn't like they had finished last in their division the year before. Also, the champions of these soccer leagues are all based on 38 games where you play each team twice. With baseball there are som many more games and you record can change depending on if you are in a very easy division (NL Central or West) or a very hard division (AL East).
Maybe some europeans can explain that better and with stuff about tradition and how it creates rivalries and excitement, but thats all i have.
i see your point, but i still think that it is harder for a team to succeed in the european leagues. But still, most of the teams you mentioned that were challenging topped at at third or fourth place, and that might still put them 20 points out of first.
In baseball, there are a bunch of teams with money. I mean the White Sox were 13th in payroll and they dominated in the playoffs last year. Plus, there are a bunch of teams that i could say have a chance to win this year (yanks, red sox, indians, white sox, blue jays, angels, a's, mets, braves, phillies, cardinals, astros). All those teams definately have playoff aspirations and they have a chance to win. You can't say the same about the soccer leagues.
fire on my lips
04/06/06, 10:02 PM
i see your point, but i still think that it is harder for a team to succeed in the european leagues. But still, most of the teams you mentioned that were challenging topped at at third or fourth place, and that might still put them 20 points out of first.
In baseball, there are a bunch of teams with money. I mean the White Sox were 13th in payroll and they dominated in the playoffs last year. Plus, there are a bunch of teams that i could say have a chance to win this year (yanks, red sox, indians, white sox, blue jays, angels, a's, mets, braves, phillies, cardinals, astros). All those teams definately have playoff aspirations and they have a chance to win. You can't say the same about the soccer leagues.
I understand your point as well, but for a team to go from no where to finishing third and playing in Europe or in a cup final, is a huge deal. The equivalent, IMO, of the Cubs (because they sucked last year) coming out this year and making it to the World Series and losing to the yankees or whoever.
I honestly can't remember who had the best regular season record last year, but normally it is a team like the Yankees and the Cardinals, the teams that have the highest payrolls and are regared as the best teams in their leagues. The EPL, for example, is a regular season that has no playoffs at the end. That arguement still doesn't fully prove my point, but i think it adds a little more insight.
EDIT: btw, Chaminade beat St Anthony's in lax today. Chaminade played horribly and then St. Anthony's would score a goal and look like they would come back, but then just fall apart. Just felt the need to say that. lol
The Primera has a lot of variation in the top 4.My team has always been shitty and now are 4th fighting against R.Madrid and Valencia for the 2nd place.
A.Bilbao have always been a very good team and now they are near to descend, like Betis.
Crocodile Logic
04/07/06, 02:42 AM
My team has always been shitty and now are 4th fighting against R.Madrid and Valencia for the 2nd place.
A.Bilbao have always been a very good team and now they are near to descend, like Betis.
seriously? that's very surprising.
swizzle
04/07/06, 03:10 AM
i love the spanish football.
it got everything it that you could possibly need.
The italian leagues are very defensive and not quick and as exciting as the spanish
The english i feel is boring
There can be no doubt on this:
1. Spain
2. Italy
3. England
4. Germany
5. France
And by best, I dont mean most entertaining, but best teams.
I understand your point as well, but for a team to go from no where to finishing third and playing in Europe or in a cup final, is a huge deal. The equivalent, IMO, of the Cubs (because they sucked last year) coming out this year and making it to the World Series and losing to the yankees or whoever.
I honestly can't remember who had the best regular season record last year, but normally it is a team like the Yankees and the Cardinals, the teams that have the highest payrolls and are regared as the best teams in their leagues. The EPL, for example, is a regular season that has no playoffs at the end. That arguement still doesn't fully prove my point, but i think it adds a little more insight.
EDIT: btw, Chaminade beat St Anthony's in lax today. Chaminade played horribly and then St. Anthony's would score a goal and look like they would come back, but then just fall apart. Just felt the need to say that. lol
did you know that sports illustrated named st anthony's the best sports program in new york state, just felt the need to say that...
lol, kidding, but anyway, as an esteemed graduate, i do not like that they took that fact and put it on a huge sign adjacent to the football field.
There can be no doubt on this:
1. Spain
2. Italy
3. England
4. Germany
5. France
And by best, I dont mean most entertaining, but best teams.
Spain ill agree with, but the Italian league has possibly 5-6 great teams and then a load of pretty rubbish ones (Juve, Milan, Inter, Roma, Fiorentina). English league has a lot of very underrated teams in it along with the powerhouses like Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool... this year the english clubs didnt do too well in CL, but usually you can expect a few to remain into the latter stages... as well as english clubs always remaining until the latter stages of the Eufa cup.
i'd put EPL above Serie A
xglassjawx
04/07/06, 07:02 AM
Spain ill agree with,
Totally.
Players like Deco and Ronaldinho are pretty much just like entertaining showmen as opposed to footballers.
Ronaldinho also pwns the living shit out of Ronaldo. That's the brazilian Ronaldo. Not Christiano.
Totally.
Players like Deco and Ronaldinho are pretty much just like entertaining showmen as opposed to footballers.
Ronaldinho also pwns the living shit out of Ronaldo. That's the brazilian Ronaldo. Not Christiano.
because Big Ron is a fat shit
xglassjawx
04/07/06, 07:09 AM
because Big Ron is a fat shit
Hahaha pretty much.
In 2 or 3 years time, Ronaldinho will be the new Ronaldo and there'll be another stunning brazilian.
I can't wait to see Reading in the premiership. It'll be so class. My mates and I should be going to the bus parade thing with the players through the town centre. I can't wait.
Jonas900
04/07/06, 07:13 AM
i voted La Liga (Spain) and i don't agree with the notion that someone presented that EPL is the fastest paced. More upsets, perhaps, but i think Spain has a much more fast-paced game due to the lack of true physical players (except Graveson). i agree it is lacking in contact, but probably the most fun to watch and lots of very underrated teams.
instead of MLS it should have been the Portuguese league. highly entertaining and fun to watch, and let's not forget that Porto won the Champs League 2 years ago.
although Lyon is a stunningly good team, i think Portugal and the Dutch League should be on this list ahead of France.
i voted La Liga (Spain) and i don't agree with the notion that someone presented that EPL is the fastest paced. More upsets, perhaps, but i think Spain has a much more fast-paced game due to the lack of true physical players (except Graveson). i agree it is lacking in contact, but probably the most fun to watch and lots of very underrated teams.
instead of MLS it should have been the Portuguese league. highly entertaining and fun to watch, and let's not forget that Porto won the Champs League 2 years ago.
although Lyon is a stunningly good team, i think Portugal and the Dutch League should be on this list ahead of France.
i put in the mls option as a joke, i could have added those leagues but i figured there were only 3 that could really be considered the best.
Crocodile Logic
04/07/06, 10:35 AM
Totally.
Players like Deco and Ronaldinho are pretty much just like entertaining showmen as opposed to footballers.
Ronaldinho also pwns the living shit out of Ronaldo. That's the brazilian Ronaldo. Not Christiano.
isn't Christiano Brazilian, as well?
isn't Christiano Brazilian, as well?
Portugese
fire on my lips
04/07/06, 11:52 AM
did you know that sports illustrated named st anthony's the best sports program in new york state, just felt the need to say that...
lol, kidding, but anyway, as an esteemed graduate, i do not like that they took that fact and put it on a huge sign adjacent to the football field.
Yes i might have noticed the huge sign when i was at the footcall semifinals this year . . .
That really isnt a fair assessment, we are a male-only school, therefore we have no way in hell of competing with that. I think you'd agree that Chaminade has the better male athletic department. lol
And I'm glad to see some more love for La Liga.
Crocodile Logic
04/07/06, 12:22 PM
Portugese
ahh you're right.
ahh you're right.
always.
believethehyph
04/07/06, 12:49 PM
i love the spanish football.
it got everything it that you could possibly need.
The italian leagues are very defensive and not quick and as exciting as the spanish
The english i feel is boring
WTF?! The day the english premiership is boring is the day I enter the gates of hell.
Totally.
Players like Deco and Ronaldinho are pretty much just like entertaining showmen as opposed to footballers.
Ronaldinho also pwns the living shit out of Ronaldo. That's the brazilian Ronaldo. Not Christiano.Ronaldinho and Ronaldo are different kind of players. Ronaldinho is the one who creates the oportunities and Ronaldo is the one who scores.
xglassjawx
04/07/06, 01:53 PM
Ronaldinho is the one who creates the oportunities and Ronaldo is the one who scores.
...eats. A LOT.
hahaha.
...eats. A LOT.
hahaha.He is not that fat. Did you see how he scored against Barça?
He is not that fat. Did you see how he scored against Barça?
i was blinded by the jiggling of his stomach
i was blinded by the jiggling of his stomachIt seems Valdes too. And Motta couldn't follow him.
well Valdes is a rubbish keeper anyway, but one moment of brilliance doesnt really make up for a whole 2 seasons of utter rubbish
xglassjawx
04/07/06, 02:11 PM
i was blinded by the jiggling of his stomach
Hahahaha.
I'm not suprised he scored a good goal anyway, Spaniars couldn't give two shits about defending. :)
fire on my lips
04/07/06, 10:07 PM
WTF?! The day the english premiership is boring is the day I enter the gates of hell.
somebody hasn't seen Chelsea play . . .
well Valdes is a rubbish keeper anyway, but one moment of brilliance doesnt really make up for a whole 2 seasons of utter rubbishValdes is not that rubbish, he is very impulsive and goes out too much.
_all_star_me_
04/08/06, 03:28 AM
i say english preimier.
allelish
04/08/06, 04:11 AM
I missed this thread.
The answer is the Premiership. It has everything. La Liga is second i'd say. Seria A has gone down the pan since the mid 90's when it was the biggest/best in the world.
I missed this thread.
The answer is the Premiership. It has everything. La Liga is second i'd say. Seria A has gone down the pan since the mid 90's when it was the biggest/best in the world.La Liga is the best and you know it fucking Irish. >:o
allelish
04/08/06, 04:44 AM
La Liga is the best and you know it fucking Irish. >:o
yes. If best means less exciting and intense.
ZOMG...PWN!
yes. If best means less exciting and intense.
ZOMG...PWN!Hahahhaha. I really think is the best one and the most exciting. Premier would be second.
PS:That ZOMG PWN really hurted me.
Valdes is not that rubbish, he is very impulsive and goes out too much.
that plus he spills the ball alot, isnt a great shot stopper either... all in all... rubbish
he's certainly no Robbo ;)
believethehyph
04/08/06, 11:34 AM
that plus he spills the ball alot, isnt a great shot stopper either... all in all... rubbish
he's certainly no Robbo ;)
Robbo has piled on the pounds recently.
xglassjawx
04/08/06, 12:14 PM
Robbo has piled on the pounds recently.
How dare you diss England players!
How do you think Wales with do at the World Cup by the way? Oh yeah...wait...can't get in with the big boys like EN-GER-FUCKING-LAND can you? ;)
fire on my lips
04/08/06, 06:47 PM
I just watched the MLS game of the Red Bulls and the Revolution. It wasn't horrible. Once you got over throwing up about how ugly the Red Bull jersey is, it was a pretty good game. I'd rate it as an upper English Championship level game aka better than the relegated italian teams. lol
believethehyph
04/09/06, 01:55 PM
How dare you diss England players!
How do you think Wales with do at the World Cup by the way? Oh yeah...wait...can't get in with the big boys like EN-GER-FUCKING-LAND can you? ;)
Granted, England are there, but you won't win it.:D
Damn, i missed this thread. I voted for Serie A.
No one's posted in this thread for a long time...
Oh well, The Premiership is the best league.
youkwalks
12/24/06, 02:30 PM
Spain ill agree with, but the Italian league has possibly 5-6 great teams and then a load of pretty rubbish ones (Juve, Milan, Inter, Roma, Fiorentina). English league has a lot of very underrated teams in it along with the powerhouses like Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool... this year the english clubs didnt do too well in CL, but usually you can expect a few to remain into the latter stages... as well as english clubs always remaining until the latter stages of the Eufa cup.
i'd put EPL above Serie A
could you really count Juve on this one?
fire on my lips
12/24/06, 04:57 PM
could you really count Juve on this one?
this thread is pretty old, but when Juve is back in Serie A for a year or two, I'm sure they'll buy another title. If a Manchester United youth player died, would every Premiership player wear an armband? i doubt it.
Juve is still a great team, even if they are a bunch of cheats.
I still think that La Liga is the best. Serie A is boring, French league is a waste, the Premiership is fun to watch, but has little technical skill compared to others.
La Liga
Serie A
Prem
Bunda
french league
Dutch
Portugal
Scotland
then Sweden and Russia I guess. The K-League is probably in there, as well as the MLS and the J-League.
Spicoli hey bud
12/24/06, 05:00 PM
why are people voting for MLS? as a joke?
From my limited knowledge and fifa videogame experience, even I know the MLS is shit compared to other leagues.
Dirty Ernie
12/24/06, 07:13 PM
I voted other, and by other I mean Major Indoor Soccer League...
fire on my lips
12/24/06, 09:18 PM
why are people voting for MLS? as a joke?
From my limited knowledge and fifa videogame experience, even I know the MLS is shit compared to other leagues.
It was up during the World Cup, so I guess some Sports forum people, and visitors, thought it would be funny to vote for the MLS.
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