The Official 2006 Boston Red Sox Thread

[mikeford]

i hate weeding through mets and other crappy teams i dont care about posts in the MLB thread and theres enough of us Sox fans to warrant this.


hollar.


Josh Beckett throwing smoke tonight. be nice if someone on this goddamn team could hit though.

[hockey0001]

Beckett doesnt look that good tonight, relative to whats hes capable of. But its the first game of the year. And the bats apparently cant figure Loe out

[fedhed7]

/thread

[justinevans]

this should be the official no one cares about the red sox anymore thread.

[Broken Parachute]

MLB Thread?

[mikeford]

MLB Thread?

did you READ the body of the thread?

pretty sure i prefaced its creation.

[histrionics22]

i hate weeding through mets and other crappy teams i dont care about posts in the MLB thread and theres enough of us Sox fans to warrant this.


hollar.


Josh Beckett throwing smoke tonight. be nice if someone on this goddamn team could hit though.

The Marlins won more World Series since 1997 than you have. Stop talking.

[Broken Parachute]

No, I read it. But there's no reason for it. I never had problems with you, but why a whole seperate thread for about 5 Boston fans? Just go to the MLB thread and "weed through shitty teams" to talk about the Red Sox.

[hockey0001]

MLB Thread?

which is basically 4 comments about the red sox, 1 about another team, then more about the sox

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

best thread!

[Doug]

No, I read it. But there's no reason for it. I never had problems with you, but why a whole seperate thread for about 5 Boston fans? Just go to the MLB thread and "weed through shitty teams" to talk about the Red Sox.

you have like 12 shitty mets threads, eat a dick

[Broken Parachute]

you have like 12 shitty mets threads, eat a dick

I do? News to me.

Actually..I never made any. I have one regarding the Mets, and it's about Kris Benson and the article with his wife's divorce. He's not even on the Mets anymore.

[sweetforever]

Red Sox are my team. Big Papi hit a bomb on opening day.

[hockey0001]

Red Sox are my team. Big Papi hit a bomb on opening day.

but hes has 2 gidp's tonight but Trot just hit a 2 run shot to take the lead

[weezer182]

Go Blue Jays!

[kshtoinks12]

BURN THIS FUCKING THREAD TO THE GROUND
every post in this thread is like saying hiel hitler

[Broken Parachute]

BURN THIS FUCKING THREAD TO THE GROUND
every post in this thread is like saying hiel hitler

I wouldn't go that far.

[jaimej]

This may be the only time I say this, but I agree with mikeford here. He can have a Sox thread if he wants. I make threads about the Yankees all the time. And there's a mets thread somewhere around here, and they suck.

To the topic at hand, I'm a big Beckett fan, but he worries me.

[kshtoinks12]

I wouldn't go that far.
i would
i'm gonna spam this thread w/ sooo much yankees shit it'll hurt inside, unless this thread is gone

[kshtoinks12]

RJ > beckett

[mikeford]

wow being annoying is sooooo awesome. having a civil discussion in this forum is totally out of the question.. what on earth was i thinking?

[Broken Parachute]

wow being annoying is sooooo awesome. having a civil discussion in this forum is totally out of the question.. what on earth was i thinking?

Actually, I apologize..you're allowed to have the thread if you want it. Who am I to tell you it's wrong. I'm not being a sarcastic dick either, I really mean it. After seeing Billy Wagner blow a save on Brian Bannister's surprise gem outing..I realized that the Mets are back to their sucky ways just two days into the season.

[LeftWideOpen]

wow being annoying is sooooo awesome. having a civil discussion in this forum is totally out of the question.. what on earth was i thinking?

this forum is finally getting noticed and we are seeing the ill effects of that.

anyway, beckett has been sketchy tonight. he got out of sticky situations though and instead of getting down on himself, he looked siked up when he ended the 4th w/ that K.

Hopefully if they call upon Foulke, he can hold the lead. Otherwise, it won't even take until May 1st to have the majority of fans calling for Papelbon.

[hockey0001]

think of it this way, would you guys rather have 1 catch-all thread about the red sox or 3 or 4 that refer to different subjects? and if you dont like this thread, its not that hard to not click on it

[LeftWideOpen]

Beckett is out again for the 7th and nobody is in the pen. I don't think this is a bad move actually cause he's been on a roll lately. Hopefully he gets through this inning unscaffed and Timlin comes in the game for the 8th.

Loretta looks good again. 2 more hits ... here's my prediction: mark loretta will be the starting 2B in the All-Star game. I think he's due for a big year in front of Ortiz and Manny.

[mikeford]

think of it this way, would you guys rather have 1 catch-all thread about the red sox or 3 or 4 that refer to different subjects?

bingo.

otherwise ill make a fuckin game thread every single day like people did with every stupid fucking NCAA basketball game.

[weezer182]

I hope jt snow does well in boston. he is a class act

[unwritten]

I respect the Sox and I'm a Yanks fan. I just love the city of Boston. It is amazing. Enjoy your thread.

[LeftWideOpen]

I respect the Sox and I'm a Yanks fan. I just love the city of Boston. It is amazing. Enjoy your thread.

thank you. judging by your Italian flag, I take it you may have been to the North End? It's where I live so I'm interested in an outsiders take of it.

[hockey0001]

Beckett is out again for the 7th and nobody is in the pen. I don't think this is a bad move actually cause he's been on a roll lately. Hopefully he gets through this inning unscaffed and Timlin comes in the game for the 8th.

Loretta looks good again. 2 more hits ... here's my prediction: mark loretta will be the starting 2B in the All-Star game. I think he's due for a big year in front of Ortiz and Manny.

its a good move, if he gets through this inning fine and comes out for the 8th, i say start getting papelbon ready. I could definately see Loretta starting 2b at the all-star game, that would be great.

edit: as i finish typing Becket gets the k to end the inning, they need to get some insurance this inning

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

well beckett was pretty damn good tonight

[LeftWideOpen]

well beckett was pretty damn good tonight

yep. 81 pitches to finish 4 innings and only 28 in the last 3. talk about a turnaround.

[mikeford]

beckett gets so fucking pumped... i love it.

[hockey0001]

well beckett was pretty damn good tonight

he's got much stronger as the game went on. He started off somewhat skakey but overall has put together a very good start. Becket at 109 pitches, looks like hes done for the night Timlin getting ready in the pen

[hockey0001]

beckett gets so fucking pumped... i love it.

agreed. Schillings reaction in the dug out was also great

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

foulke in the 9th scares the shit out of me.

[Doug]

beckett's sinker is unreal

[mikeford]

wow ortiz was 100% worthless tonight. jesus christ.

[unwritten]

thank you. judging by your Italian flag, I take it you may have been to the North End? It's where I live so I'm interested in an outsiders take of it.

You know what? It's not one of my favorite parts. I got a cannoli from Mike's Pastry...it was fuckin nasty lol. I was just recently there. Overall though, Boston is so much fun.

[Frank Giaramita]

Red Sox are my team. Big Papi hit a bomb on opening day.
Yankees are my team. Alex Rodriguez hit a bigger bomb on opening day (along with some killer defensive plays).

[wesgemm08]

baltimore orioles 2-0 woot woot... we'll see what happens this weekend sox fans

[eversosweetTEN]

i never thought that i would miss NESN as much as i have over the last four years of being in jersey.

i hope everyone is having fun watching the game while i'm watching the dots move on my computer

[Broken Parachute]

baltimore orioles 2-0 woot woot... we'll see what happens this weekend sox fans

They beat Tampa Bay..

[LeftWideOpen]

You know what? It's not one of my favorite parts. I got a cannoli from Mike's Pastry...it was fuckin nasty lol. I was just recently there. Overall though, Boston is so much fun.

haha yeah, mike's is an overrated tourist goldmine. modern pastry down the street is way better and this place bova's is open 24 hours a day so when you're wasted at 3 am, there's somewhere to get pizza, pastry and calzones. it's wonderful.

[LeftWideOpen]

leadoff single by tex ...come on timlin. don't let this slip away.

fly out to right by nevin. nice.

[LeftWideOpen]

baltimore orioles 2-0 woot woot... we'll see what happens this weekend sox fans

they've been hitting the shit out of the ball, but it is tampa bay's pitching. sox traditionally own the orioles, so anything less than 2 outta 3 would be a joke.

[hockey0001]

Timlin is weak, Papelbon should be in

[LeftWideOpen]

Timlin is weak, Papelbon should be in

yep. paps is warming up right now.

[LeftWideOpen]

they waved tex!!!! hahahaha. out at home!

[hockey0001]

When did we give Texas are 3rd base coach?

[LeftWideOpen]

jimenez bat just went further than the ball.

[Broken Parachute]

I'm honestly saying this..I'm not trying to go against the Sox. But, didn't he look safe at home? Looked like Tex got the foot in. But, if the ball beats you..should be out, so it doesn't matter.

[LeftWideOpen]

passed ball. tying run on 3rd, go-ahead run on 2nd. buckle down timlin.

[hockey0001]

they've been hitting the shit out of the ball, but it is tampa bay's pitching. sox traditionally own the orioles, so anything less than 2 outta 3 would be a joke.

Sox dont usually own the Orioles, they always give us trouble. Last year we were 10-9 against them, and in '04 we went 9-10

[LeftWideOpen]

big out.

[hockey0001]

And Timlin escapes with some help from Texas baserunning

[hockey0001]

I'm honestly saying this..I'm not trying to go against the Sox. But, didn't he look safe at home? Looked like Tex got the foot in. But, if the ball beats you..should be out, so it doesn't matter.

I thought so to on the replay. But when the ball beats you buy that much and you dont make a huge effort to get under the tag, youre gonna be called out

[hockey0001]

nice, looks like papelbon for the 9th.

[mikeford]

Looks like Paps is gonna close this one...

[LeftWideOpen]

Looks like Paps is gonna close this one...

woooow, i'm really surprised. it's only the 3rd game.

i like the decision though.

[hockey0001]

woooow, i'm really surprised. it's only the 3rd game.

i like the decision though.

i agree with it also. Wise decision by Tito here

[LeftWideOpen]

foulke looks like hes heated.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

im not ashamed to admit ive had a mancrush on papelbon since his debut last year.

[mikeford]

lets hope francona doesnt get pwned by this decision.

[LeftWideOpen]

well, i've already got papelbon on like 3 fantasy teams but i'm sure as hell picking him up on the others.

[unwritten]

haha yeah, mike's is an overrated tourist goldmine. modern pastry down the street is way better and this place bova's is open 24 hours a day so when you're wasted at 3 am, there's somewhere to get pizza, pastry and calzones. it's wonderful.

Hmm, I'm trying to think of this pizza places name. I walked by it and the line was out the door. It was in the North End and it wasn't the place you just mentioned. Anyway, it smelled so good but I was too lazy to wait in line.

[hockey0001]

lets hope francona doesnt get pwned by this decision.

agreed. I dont want this to turn into making them right decision and having it come back and bite you in the ass

[LeftWideOpen]

im not ashamed to admit ive had a mancrush on papelbon since his debut last year.

i have a mancrush on lester and he hasnt even pitched yet. i think its cause hes a lefty, like myself (only 500x more talented).

[hockey0001]

not even close on that K

[LeftWideOpen]

Hmm, I'm trying to think of this pizza places name. I walked by it and the line was out the door. It was in the North End and it wasn't the place you just mentioned. Anyway, it smelled so good but I was too lazy to wait in line.

probably pizzeria regina. or ernestos.

2 quick outs by papelbon. nice!

[hockey0001]

i have a mancrush on lester and he hasnt even pitched yet. i think its cause hes a lefty, like myself (only 500x more talented).

If Lester lives up to all his hype, he will ba amazing. 2 years from now having a starting 3 of Beckett, Papelbon, and Lester is rediculous

[hockey0001]

probably pizzeria regina. or ernestos.

2 quick outs by papelbon. nice!

pizzeria regina is some quality eating

[Broken Parachute]

Papelbon is throwing hhheeaatt.

[LeftWideOpen]

ballgame! good work by beckett tonight, as well as papelbon. Nixon gets player of the game though, in my book, for the 2 run homer.

[hockey0001]

Papelbon shuts the door with 2 k's and a popout

[mikeford]

FUCK YES PAPELBON


suck it world.

[Broken Parachute]

Shit. Why isn't he your normal closer? Or is he? Idunno much about Boston.

[LeftWideOpen]

pizzeria regina is some quality eating

yeahhhh it is. a little expensive though since its so popular.

actually, unwritten, you were referring to Galleria Umberto. It's across the street from Mike's and it has the best food in the world for cheap. Pizza is only $1.

[hockey0001]

ballgame! good work by beckett tonight, as well as papelbon. Nixon gets player of the game though, in my book, for the 2 run homer.

Great 1st game for the Sox by Becket to get the W, and then Papelbon comes retires the side in order to get the save. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

[LeftWideOpen]

Shit. Why isn't he your normal closer? Or is he? Idunno much about Boston.

he probably is now. i don't see how you not make him closer, unless you throw him in the rotation. he can't just rot away in a middle relief role.

[wesgemm08]

Sox dont usually own the Orioles, they always give us trouble. Last year we were 10-9 against them, and in '04 we went 9-10
daniel cabrera is gonna bring the heat friday

..if he improves his changeup and gets another good pitch he'd be a sick pitcher

[hockey0001]

Shit. Why isn't he your normal closer? Or is he? Idunno much about Boston.

Foulke was last year but he sucked, and he pitched opening day and sucked again. Hopefully they stick with Papelbon for a while

[LeftWideOpen]

daniel cabrera is gonna bring the heat friday

i like cabrera. he gives the O's staff a glimmer of hope.

Also, getting rid of Ponson was a good move. Seems like he wore out his welcome.

[Broken Parachute]

That was straight heat he was throwing. I never thought Foulke was fantastic anyway.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

by all means, foulke was fantastic in 04.

[LeftWideOpen]

over/under for when this thread exceeds the MLB thread = 2 1/2 weeks.

[hockey0001]

daniel cabrera is gonna bring the heat friday

Yea he will, doesnt he throw around 100mph? He could be nasty this year with Mizzone as the pitching coach.

[unwritten]

probably pizzeria regina. or ernestos.

2 quick outs by papelbon. nice!


There you go. I regret not trying it.

[wesgemm08]

i like cabrera. he gives the O's staff a glimmer of hope.

Also, getting rid of Ponson was a good move. Seems like he wore out his welcome.

if they got a #1 pitcher in their lineup on the off season theyd have a real good starting rotation, kris benson isnt a good enough addition tho for my taste, I like rodrigo lopez, eric bedard and daniel cabrera though, hopefully leo mazzone can work some magic with the pitching staff this season and his name as pitching coach could bring in a good #1 and some bullpen help next offseason(thinking about it already since this season will be bust)

[wesgemm08]

Yea he will, doesnt he throw around 100mph? He could be nasty this year with Mizzone as the pitching coach.

yea it was usually around 98 last season, if he adds another pitch he could be deadly

[hockey0001]

over/under for when this thread exceeds the MLB thread = 2 1/2 weeks.

ill take the under

[mikeford]

the sox historically SUCK against the O's

its a bummer.

[mikeford]

im gonna say the end of the orioles series. haha.

[hockey0001]

im gonna say the end of the orioles series. haha.

yea, im thinking like 3 or 4 more games

[LeftWideOpen]

beckett got player of the game on NESN. I still say Nixon, but he had a good case too.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

thank you. judging by your Italian flag, I take it you may have been to the North End? It's where I live so I'm interested in an outsiders take of it.
I want to live in the North End. Its beautiful. Need a roommate? Im clean, but dont have any money....eh never mind.


anyway, Papelbon looked real good tonight. Just needs to develop a couple more pitches. Works well in the closer role, though.

Still not sure if I agree with this thread, but it will make things a lot easier.

[hockey0001]

beckett got player of the game on NESN. I still say Nixon, but he had a good case too.

I'd give it to the Rangers 3rd base coach. I think you have to give to Becket: 7 innings, 1 er, 1st game for the sox. But i would not have argued if it was given to Nixon.

[LeftWideOpen]

I want to live in the North End. Its beautiful. Need a roommate? Im clean, but dont have any money....eh never mind.


anyway, Papelbon looked real good tonight. Just needs to develop a couple more pitches. Works well in the closer role, though.

Still not sure if I agree with this thread, but it will make things a lot easier.

I think this thread is like any of the others like the NCAA, NBA, NHL, etc ...it's a place for fans to talk about the game. This just has a more narrow scope.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

beckett got player of the game on NESN. I still say Nixon, but he had a good case too.
NESN is really starting to piss me off. They're blacking out the West Coast randomly and there is a bazillion Sox fan out here.

[LeftWideOpen]

I'd give it to the Rangers 3rd base coach. I think you have to give to Becket: 7 innings, 1 er, 1st game for the sox. But i would not have argued if it was given to Nixon.

yeah, i wasnt surprised cause it is his 1st game. he was the story of the night before the game, and he delivered.

[LeftWideOpen]

so, looking ahead to friday ..

who else doesnt know what the hell to expect from clement?

[hockey0001]

NESN is really starting to piss me off. They're blacking out the West Coast randomly and there is a bazillion Sox fan out here.

Thats weird, why would they blackout the west coast? Thats kinda weak.

[hockey0001]

so, looking ahead to friday ..

who else doesnt know what the hell to expect from clement?

::raises hand::

[YouMadeTheScene]

so, looking ahead to friday ..

who else doesnt know what the hell to expect from clement?

He started hot last year, so I'd expect him to do the same.

[mikeford]

so, looking ahead to friday ..

who else doesnt know what the hell to expect from clement?

he should be good... its the 1st half of the season after all.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

i miss eric frede.

[LeftWideOpen]

he should be good... its the 1st half of the season after all.

yeah, but spring training was ugly. hopefully that doesnt carry over.

[mikeford]

Thats weird, why would they blackout the west coast? Thats kinda weak.

mlb.tv

[LeftWideOpen]

i miss eric frede.

me too.

but i miss sean mcdonough 20x more. probably my favorite broadcaster in sports.

[YouMadeTheScene]

Here's to hoping my boy Craig Hansen gets the call up so I get free tickets to a game at Fenway.

[hockey0001]

me too.

but i miss sean mcdonough 20x more. probably my favorite broadcaster in sports.

McDonough was so much better than Orsillo.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Thats weird, why would they blackout the west coast? Thats kinda weak.
They blacked out the Red Sox Nation show last week along with Remy unleashed. I couldn't watch the game on NESN tonight so I had to watch shitty FSN southwest, and now I cant see Extra Innings.

meh

im moving soon enough (hopefully)

[hockey0001]

Here's to hoping my boy Craig Hansen gets the call up so I get free tickets to a game at Fenway.

Id love to see Hansen up. Im guessing sometime around the all-star break he'll be up.

[LeftWideOpen]

Id love to see Hansen up. Im guessing sometime around the all-star break he'll be up.

this is just a hypothetical .... but i wonder if there is room for him if Papelbon is the closer? Does Hansen come up and pitch middle relief? I think one of the vets (timlin, foulke, tavarez, seanez, riske) would have to tank for that to happen ..which is entirely possible.

i envisioned hansen as the replacement for foulke but if paps has the job and is getting the job done they aren't gonna move him anywhere

[mikeford]

papelbon aint gonna close all year. hansen will probably be given the chance in like august.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

yeah, but spring training was ugly. hopefully that doesnt carry over.
you cant really go by that. I mean, Foulke had a terrible ST on 04 by many accounts and was great, then in05 he looked great and stunk the house. I think we'll see a little more from Clement, but not much more.

[YouMadeTheScene]

Craig is dirty, and is going to a great pro. Met him through friends at St.Johns. Very cool guy.

[LeftWideOpen]

papelbon aint gonna close all year. hansen will probably be given the chance in like august.

you think they'd pull papelbon if he had 25-30 saves in august? i don't.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

this is just a hypothetical .... but i wonder if there is room for him if Papelbon is the closer?
Last year I said Pabelpon should close for a while. I still think he should, but with more innings. It would be a great way to keep him fresh while he waits for a spot in the rotation.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

This thread is going to double my post count in less than a week.

[LeftWideOpen]

Last year I said Pabelpon should close for a while. I still think he should, but with more innings. It would be a great way to keep him fresh while he waits for a spot in the rotation.

yeah, i think he should ultimately end up in the rotation ...but if he ends up being an elite closer, you can't touch him until he cools off or someone else steps up.

[YouMadeTheScene]

is this Pabelpon kid that legit? I mean be as unbiased as possible.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

He needs to develop a couple more pitches, but he throws a hard fastball and is a bulldog on the mound. I think he ends up a #2, #3 top guy with the chance to be a #1. The scary thing is, Lester is supposed to be better.


woo!

[LeftWideOpen]

is this Pabelpon kid that legit? I mean be as unbiased as possible.

yeah. he's been one of the top prospects (along w/ jon lester and hanley ramirez) in the system for a few years. he'll eventually be a starter, but right now he's closing cause there isnt room for him in the rotation and apparently they've lost faith in foulke.

[YouMadeTheScene]

how much did he pitch last year if any at all? should be interesting to see how he is against the yanks in the closer role.

[LeftWideOpen]

He needs to develop a couple more pitches, but he throws a hard fastball and is a bulldog on the mound. I think he ends up a #2, #3 top guy with the chance to be a #1. The scary thing is, Lester is supposed to be better.


woo!

yep ..i can't wait for lester. Once Wells and Schilling are gone, the average age of the sox staff will be about 26. i can't wait.

don't forget about delcarmen too ...you think they will try to make him a starter, or keep him in relief? I think he's got too much talent to just throw him in the pen in a non-closer role.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

theyve talked about making hansen a starter also in the past.

[LeftWideOpen]

these are papelbon's stats for last season

SEASON TEAM G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO W L SV HLD BLSV ERA
2005 Bos 17 3 0 0 34 3311 10 4 17 34 3 1 0 4 1 2.65

[YouMadeTheScene]

Not bad.Should be interesting to see how he does.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

how much did he pitch last year if any at all? should be interesting to see how he is against the yanks in the closer role.
He came up later in the year for a couple starts and ended up as the set up man late in the season. He and Timlin made a nice 8 and 9 duo.

LWO, if MDC wants to be a starter he needs to harness his shit. I think he and Hansen would be sick in the pen. What's he doing in AAA?

[mikeford]

delcarmen is falling out of favor with some people cuz he only has one pitch.

[hockey0001]

this is just a hypothetical .... but i wonder if there is room for him if Papelbon is the closer? Does Hansen come up and pitch middle relief? I think one of the vets (timlin, foulke, tavarez, seanez, riske) would have to tank for that to happen ..which is entirely possible.

i envisioned hansen as the replacement for foulke but if paps has the job and is getting the job done they aren't gonna move him anywhere

I was thinking about that too. Papelbon is supposed to be the spot starter if someone gets hurt or needs to miss a start. If he becomes closer he wont be able to keep his innings up to do that. I suppose that Dinardo could be a spot starter. And with Hanson I suppose that he could take a set-up role if Papelbon is still closing effectively.

[LeftWideOpen]

He came up later in the year for a couple starts and ended up as the set up man late in the season. He and Timlin made a nice 8 and 9 duo.

LWO, if MDC wants to be a starter he needs to harness his shit. I think he and Hansen would be sick in the pen. What's he doing in AAA?

If Riske doesnt step it up, I think Delcarmen is probably next in line. I'm willing to bet that management wants Hansen to throw more innings in AAA before throwing him into the fire.

Delcarmen does need to get control of himself though, you are right. He's got such good stuff though.

[mikeford]

Lenny DiNardo IS a starter. he was a starter in Pawtuckett.

[hockey0001]

Lenny DiNardo IS a starter. he was a starter in Pawtuckett.

I know, thats why i said he could take on a spot start if needed.

[LeftWideOpen]

Lenny DiNardo IS a starter. he was a starter in Pawtuckett.

talk about a dude who gets used and is on the road to nowhere, hah. he basically just does mop-up duty and spot starts. i can't imagine him sticking with the club for more then another year or two.

[YouMadeTheScene]

How much do you guys follow the yanks? I really think I follow the sox nearly as much as I follow the yankees.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

He's good trade bait.

[LeftWideOpen]

How much do you guys follow the yanks? I really think I follow the sox nearly as much as I follow the yankees.

i watch them when they are on and the sox arent ...and i read the sports section in the post a few times a week. i can only take so much though because i can't stomach trying to look at the yankees from a positive light. sox fans just arent wired like that.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

How much do you guys follow the yanks? I really think I follow the sox nearly as much as I follow the yankees.
A lot. I like watching them lose.

[YouMadeTheScene]

See Yankees fans take it from a different perspective. I am always checking up on the Sox and read as much as I can find on them.

[mikeford]

talk about a dude who gets used and is on the road to nowhere, hah. he basically just does mop-up duty and spot starts. i can't imagine him sticking with the club for more then another year or two.

lenny dinardo is my guido brother.

[LeftWideOpen]

lenny dinardo is my guido brother.

he's a southpaw, so he's cool in my book.

[LeftWideOpen]

Foulke seems to be handling the situation well.

“I don’t wake up in the morning and go to the grocery store and celebrate that I’m a closer. I’m a Boston Red Sox. I want to win a World Series. That’s all I’m here for… We’re working on stuff… the other day I felt better. I was lacking a little control… we’re just gonna keep building… I’m going to play the hand I’ve been dealt, just going to deal with it… I’m not going to put that much thought into it. I just bust my tail every day, keep improving… oh well.... [Francona told me] I could be throwing the ball better... could be throwing great. Do as you’re told… Team comes first. We've got to do what’s important for the team, not for me.”

That's great to see ...because I think he's realizing the majority of his teammates probably want Pap out there too. They showed Beckett talking in the dugout when Papelbon was pitching and he looked like he was blown away. I'm guessing thats the general consensus in the clubhouse.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

i think the best part of the night was when beckett finished that guy off in the 7th, and Schill started cheering like a little league father.

[hockey0001]

Foulke seems to be handling the situation well.

“I don’t wake up in the morning and go to the grocery store and celebrate that I’m a closer. I’m a Boston Red Sox. I want to win a World Series. That’s all I’m here for… We’re working on stuff… the other day I felt better. I was lacking a little control… we’re just gonna keep building… I’m going to play the hand I’ve been dealt, just going to deal with it… I’m not going to put that much thought into it. I just bust my tail every day, keep improving… oh well.... [Francona told me] I could be throwing the ball better... could be throwing great. Do as you’re told… Team comes first. We've got to do what’s important for the team, not for me.”

That's great to see ...because I think he's realizing the majority of his teammates probably want Pap out there too. They showed Beckett talking in the dugout when Papelbon was pitching and he looked like he was blown away. I'm guessing thats the general consensus in the clubhouse.

Foulke has said since he got here that he didnt care if he was the closer or not, he just wants to help the team win. I'm hoping that Foulke can regain his confidence and his '04 form and becoming a quality pitcher. Whether it be as a closer, set-up man, or whatever.

[hockey0001]

How much do you guys follow the yanks? I really think I follow the sox nearly as much as I follow the yankees.

If theye on TV ill check in to see how they are doing. I always check the box scores to see how they and their players did, but thats about it.

[aminorthreat55]

I'm going to the Sox-Os game here in Baltimore this weekend with 2 other Mass natives. I love the Sox games down here, it's almost like a home game because no one ever comes to Orioles games.

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I'm going to the Sox-Os game here in Baltimore this weekend with 2 other Mass natives. I love the Sox games down here, it's almost like a home game because no one ever comes to Orioles games.

i went to one game in camden yards when my 8th grade class went on a trip to D.C for a week ... beautiful ballpark. I loved it.

[hockey0001]

I'm going to the Sox-Os game here in Baltimore this weekend with 2 other Mass natives. I love the Sox games down here, it's almost like a home game because no one ever comes to Orioles games.

I went to game in Baltimore like 8 or 9 years ago and loved Camden Yards. Unfortunately it was against the Yankees and not Red Sox. But there definately always is a large amount of Sox fans when they play there.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

there are usually more red sox fans, then home team fans at most away games for the sox.

tropicana field is basically a home game that the red sox dont get last licks in.

[aminorthreat55]

The best part about the Os vs Sox/Yanks games are the drunken assholes. I'm excited for tomorrow night to hear drunk guys with legit Boston accents telling Os fans to shut the fuck up. It's amazing.

[aminorthreat55]

there are usually more red sox fans, then home team fans at most away games for the sox.

tropicana field is basically a home game that the red sox dont get last licks in.
Exactly. Especially with all the old people from New England who moved to Florida (i.e. my grandparents and everyone else's).

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

every single red sox away game that you watch on tv, you can hear lets go red sox really loud.

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http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/gallery/04_05_06_fenway/

Those are some pictures of the renovations done at Fenway over the winter.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

going to games next wed & thurs, cant wait.

i went to 3 sox games last year, none of them at fenway

[mikeford]

new seats look ill.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

every single red sox away game that you watch on tv, you can hear lets go red sox really loud.
Being a West Coast Red Sox fan, I can second this. We (west coast fans) own Oakland when the Sox come into town.

[mikeford]

so whats up with manny? dude looks like shit at the plate so far.

[LeftWideOpen]

so whats up with manny? dude looks like shit at the plate so far.

hes swinging at a lot of bad pitches, which is a little uncharachteristic. i'm guessing he'll have a big weekend at camden and turn it around.

anyone know the latest on the ortiz extension? it seemed like a done deal a week ago, but there hasn't been much talk since. i heard they might be holding off to do it right before the home opener.

[hockey0001]

hes swinging at a lot of bad pitches, which is a little uncharachteristic. i'm guessing he'll have a big weekend at camden and turn it around.

anyone know the latest on the ortiz extension? it seemed like a done deal a week ago, but there hasn't been much talk since. i heard they might be holding off to do it right before the home opener.

I heard that once they get back to Boston it should be completed

[hockey0001]

so whats up with manny? dude looks like shit at the plate so far.

He looks like he's trying to pull everything instead of going to other way and taking what the pitcher gives him.

[Doug]

manny will fall into a groove. i'm psyched about beckett, psyched about schilling, realllll psyched about crisp. i think it'll be a fun year.

[hockey0001]

manny will fall into a groove. i'm psyched about beckett, psyched about schilling, realllll psyched about crisp. i think it'll be a fun year.

agreed, but add Papelbon to the list

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agreed, but add Papelbon to the list

and loretta. and the potential call-up of Lester.

[hockey0001]

and loretta. and the potential call-up of Lester.

Definately ass Loretta, he's gonna have a huge year. Barring any injuries, I dont think that Lester gets called up untill August.

[hockey0001]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/gallery/04_05_06_fenway/

Those are some pictures of the renovations done at Fenway over the winter.


theres a thread over at sonofsamhorn.net that has pictures as the construction was going on, and also has comparisons with what it looked like before.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

sonsofsamhorn.com

not .net

anyone else think Loretta should be leading off with a higher OBP? Crisp has a lot of power and it would be a shame to waste it at the top. His power could best serve somewhere else in the line-up.

[LeftWideOpen]

sonsofsamhorn.com

not .net

anyone else think Loretta should be leading off with a higher OBP? Crisp has a lot of power and it would be a shame to waste it at the top. His power could best serve somewhere else in the line-up.

Where do you suggest? #2? I don't feel comfortable throwing anyone but Crisp and Loretta in the #2 spot, so I think it's gotta be there.

[mikeford]

loretta
youk
hey yo manny
orsteez
crisp
trot
vtek is a beast
lowell
agon and young jeezy

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i'm fighting to the death to keep this thread alive.

[mikeford]

i dont even care, if they can it, its just gonna cause more clutter whether people release it or not. hello game threads every day.

[histrionics22]

i dont even care, if they can it, its just gonna cause more clutter whether people release it or not. hello game threads every day.

At least they would die out after every day.

[aminorthreat55]

i'm fighting to the death to keep this thread alive.
If they delete it, just hijack the "please remove team threads" thread and turn it into the Sox discussion thread to piss them off.

[LeftWideOpen]

If they delete it, just hijack the "please remove team threads" thread and turn it into the Sox discussion thread to piss them off.

hahaha.

i'm fighting for it more on principle, it isnt about the red sox anymore. its a much larger issue now

[hockey0001]

sonsofsamhorn.com

not .net

anyone else think Loretta should be leading off with a higher OBP? Crisp has a lot of power and it would be a shame to waste it at the top. His power could best serve somewhere else in the line-up.

they both work, .com takes you to the main page, .net takes you directly to the forums

[NetNerdsRevenge]

really? well shit, im done fucking around with .com

anyway, I think Crisp could work really well in the 6 spot. You dont really need super speed at the top when you have Ortiz and Manny 3 and 4. Crisp is the 6 spot provides both power and speed so 7,8, and 9 can play "small ball." Crisp hits a double, 7 bunts him over, 8 and 9 have a chance to knock him in.

[mikeford]

unless they are gonna have crisp try to steal 40+ bases, theres no reason for him to lead off.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

for those of you interested, there is a thread on sonsofsamhorn.net (thank you hockey) about Manny. Two sabremetric people from outside the Red Sox team are discussing his actual value to the team. A lot of it is stats I like, and its still way over my head. Basically, theyre saying when you add in his defense and salary (I believe, I havent read the whole thread) he comes out to +2 wins above average.

[mikeford]

for those of you interested, there is a thread on sonsofsamhorn.net (thank you hockey) about Manny. Two sabremetric people from outside the Red Sox team are discussing his actual value to the team. A lot of it is stats I like, and its still way over my head. Basically, theyre saying when you add in his defense and salary (I believe, I havent read the whole thread) he comes out to +2 wins above average.

do they give a base of comparison though? like whats coco crisp's or gary sheffield's?

[NetNerdsRevenge]

There are some tables in the thread about it. If you filter through the thread you can find it. MGL (the guy who created UZR, his name is mitchell or something) wrote an article about Manny. This actually started the whole discussion. He came on trying to sell his book by posting the article in which he analyzed mannys value. He has a table in his article....actually ill post the article, one sec.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

link (http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showtopic=4698) to the thread

link (http://www.insidethebook.com/manny.shtml) to article

[hockey0001]

for those of you interested, there is a thread on sonsofsamhorn.net (thank you hockey) about Manny. Two sabremetric people from outside the Red Sox team are discussing his actual value to the team. A lot of it is stats I like, and its still way over my head. Basically, theyre saying when you add in his defense and salary (I believe, I havent read the whole thread) he comes out to +2 wins above average.

For around 75% of the stats used in those discussions, i have no clue what the hell they are talking about

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

yeah why do those assholes have to combine math (the worst thing ever) and baseball (the best thing ever)