The Fall of Troy - In The Unlikely Event

[Supernovacaine]

TFOT's new stuff drops Oct.6


1. Panic Attack
2. Straight-Jacket Keelhauled
3. Battleship Graveyard
4. A Classic Case of Transference
5. Single
6. Empty the Clip the King Has Been Slain
7. People and Their Lives
8. Dirty Pillow Talk
9. Nobody's Perfect
10. Webs
11. Walk of Fame
12. Nature vs. Nurture

Probably my most anticipated album of the fall, that and ETID's NJA.

[CalRahhh]

Holy crap, this AND new Converge in October. AND my 18th birthday. Best month ever.

[SmokieB.High]

Phantoms was great I hope they expand thier sound from that release rather then manipulator

[RecklessXRandy]

I think I might just listen to Phantoms tonight.

[popdisaster00]

TFOT's new stuff drops Oct.6


1. Panic Attack
2. Straight-Jacket Keelhauled
3. Battleship Graveyard
4. A Classic Case of Transference
5. Single
6. Empty the Clip the King Has Been Slain
7. People and Their Lives
8. Dirty Pillow Talk
9. Nobody's Perfect
10. Webs
11. Walk of Fame
12. Nature vs. Nurture

Probably my most anticipated album of the fall, that and ETID's NJA.
Where'd you get that info? I'm stoked for this cd. Where did vomiting winter go? I'm also surprised this is basically just over a month away and we haven't heard any new songs or much of anything from the band. I am seeing them on the Thursday tour and definitely excited.

[popdisaster00]

And Manipulator was AWESOME. I still don't understand how anyone could dislike it. If anything, dislike the fact that they ruined the ghostship demos with the release of phantom.

[songydarko]

This shit better be amazing. I have high hopes.

[Asmodeus]

I really hope vomiting winter was renamed for the album and not scrapped, that song was the jam

[Supernovacaine]

Where'd you get that info? I'm stoked for this cd. Where did vomiting winter go? I'm also surprised this is basically just over a month away and we haven't heard any new songs or much of anything from the band. I am seeing them on the Thursday tour and definitely excited.

The track listing has been out for probably a week now (I think I first saw it on ultimate-guitar?), so I was surprised it wasn't on here just yet. Like everyone, I'm not sure what's happened to "The Vomiting Winter". There's been speculation that the song title was changed for the new album, but there's been nothing really other then heresy to support that statement. Oh, and I should also mention Rody Walker from Protest The Hero is providing guest vocals on "Dirty Pillow Talk".

[popdisaster00]

The track listing has been out for probably a week now (I think I first saw it on ultimate-guitar?), so I was surprised it wasn't on here just yet. Like everyone, I'm not sure what's happened to "The Vomiting Winter". There's been speculation that the song title was changed for the new album, but there's been nothing really other then heresy to support that statement. Oh, and I should also mention Rody Walker from Protest The Hero is providing guest vocals on "Dirty Pillow Talk".
Sick. I used to be a member of the tfot forums way back when before they took them down and ever since I have been behind on the news, but they are probably one of my top 5 favorite bands.

[ManchesterOrch8]

I think Vomiting Winter is gonna be a B-side.


I think it'll be a combination of the Phantoms vibe and Manipulator.


They won't remake Doppelganger, that'd be stupid. Seems that's all people want from them. Manipulator was spot on.

[Supernovacaine]

My opinion constantly changes between Doppelganger and Manipulator for fav album by TFOT, so I'll be pretty content with whatever direction they decide to go with this album. IMO they've always put out quality stuff.

[jay_klinkhammer]

Yeah, Manipulator was their best album by far. It doesn't hit you at first....but you really appreciate it after you get used to it.

[Getup and Dance]

Shit band

[barkingincision]

Shit band
spending your time well

[Burn That Shit]

finger taps, delay pedals, cocaine, etc..

[badasstunes!]

its all about the the fall of troy (actual cd) i liked a few tunes of manipulator but i'd rather listen to phantom....tooooooo pumped for this album though

[zubinmoosa]

Actually sort of looking forward to this

[summer skin]

here's the entire album for you verbatim:
FINGER TAP FINGER TAP WOM WOM WOM
off key garbage clean vocals
UNLISTENABLE SHIT SCREAM
MORE FINGER TAPS
heroin heroin heroin
ambient noise for 15 minutes
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGER TAAAAAAAAAAAAP SOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOO
FUCK YOU I'LL FIRE MY WHOLE BAND BECAUSE I AM ERAK THE KING OF THE GUITAR
ONE MAN BAND TIME
*drum loop*
SO WHAT IF I CAN'T PLAY ANY OF THIS SHIT LIVE YOU'LL STILL BUY THE RECORD BEWAHAHAHAHA
GIRL JEANS GIVE ME THE STRENGTH OF A THOUSAND SUNS!

[MartyrsCasualty]

thomas can play all of his songs live.... of course you must be right because a devoted fan like you must go to all their shows.

[Simulcast]

It's produced by Terry Date. It is going to be good.

[Simulcast]

here's the entire album for you verbatim:
FINGER TAP FINGER TAP WOM WOM WOM
off key garbage clean vocals
UNLISTENABLE SHIT SCREAM
MORE FINGER TAPS
heroin heroin heroin
ambient noise for 15 minutes
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGER TAAAAAAAAAAAAP SOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOO
FUCK YOU I'LL FIRE MY WHOLE BAND BECAUSE I AM ERAK THE KING OF THE GUITAR
ONE MAN BAND TIME
*drum loop*
SO WHAT IF I CAN'T PLAY ANY OF THIS SHIT LIVE YOU'LL STILL BUY THE RECORD BEWAHAHAHAHA
GIRL JEANS GIVE ME THE STRENGTH OF A THOUSAND SUNS!



Not your best work.

[mymomsapanda]

here's the entire album for you verbatim:
FINGER TAP FINGER TAP WOM WOM WOM
off key garbage clean vocals
UNLISTENABLE SHIT SCREAM
MORE FINGER TAPS
heroin heroin heroin
ambient noise for 15 minutes
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGER TAAAAAAAAAAAAP SOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOO
FUCK YOU I'LL FIRE MY WHOLE BAND BECAUSE I AM ERAK THE KING OF THE GUITAR
ONE MAN BAND TIME
*drum loop*
SO WHAT IF I CAN'T PLAY ANY OF THIS SHIT LIVE YOU'LL STILL BUY THE RECORD BEWAHAHAHAHA
GIRL JEANS GIVE ME THE STRENGTH OF A THOUSAND SUNS!

your a fucking idiot. you no longer have the right to speak

[Burn That Shit]

your a fucking idiot. you no longer have the right to speak

Dude, fascism, not cool.

[mymomsapanda]

haha. clever :)

[Gardenhead]

This band is awful. Progressive rock for kids who don't really like progressive rock.

[MartyrsCasualty]

This band is awful. Progressive rock for kids who don't really like progressive rock.



Actually the fall of troy happens to be my favorite band, and prog rock happens to be my favorite genre. It's the same deal with every other tfot fan i know...

[Gardenhead]

Actually the fall of troy happens to be my favorite band, and prog rock happens to be my favorite genre. It's the same deal with every other tfot fan i know...

What other prog rock bands do you like?

[Burn That Shit]

Alexisonfire, The Arcade Fire, Between the buried and me, Billy talent, Born of Osiris, Chiodos, I am alaska, Kay Kay and his weathered underground, Lydia, Maps & Atlases, The receiving end of sirens, Circa survive, Resonate, City of sound, This town needs guns, Dance Gavin Dance, The Dear Hunter, Duck duck goose, Emarosa, Envy on the coast, Everclear, The fall of troy, The Thirty Years War, You.May.Die.In.The.Desert, Four year strong, Hotel of the Laughing Tree, Radiohead, RX Bandits, As Tall as Lions, Tera melos, By the End of Tonight, Closure in Moscow, Damiera, Foxy Shazam, HeavyHeavyLowLow, The mars volta, The number twelve looks like you, Portugal. The man, Silversun Pickups, Sky eats airplane, The sound of animals fighting, Taking back sunday, Tenacious D, Vanna, The white stripes, The offspring, Dr. Acula, Red Museum, Mia Medusa, The Jonbenet, DJ Assault, iamerror, Hot Cross, Norma Jean, Artifex Pereo, As Cities Burn, Battles, Minus The Bear, Explosions In The Sky, Loom, Dr. Manhattan, Brand New, Facing New York, Forgive Durden, Passion Pit, Jay Z, Atomic Ballroom Calamity, The Blood Brothers, I Am Committing Sin, Fall Out Boy


where's the prog, bro?

[MartyrsCasualty]

What other prog rock bands do you like?

Rx bandits, the mars volta, portugal. the man, the dear hunter, the sound of animals fighting, this town needs guns, tera melos, etc.

[Gardenhead]

Alexisonfire, The Arcade Fire, Between the buried and me, Billy talent, Born of Osiris, Chiodos, I am alaska, Kay Kay and his weathered underground, Lydia, Maps & Atlases, The receiving end of sirens, Circa survive, Resonate, City of sound, This town needs guns, Dance Gavin Dance, The Dear Hunter, Duck duck goose, Emarosa, Envy on the coast, Everclear, The fall of troy, The Thirty Years War, You.May.Die.In.The.Desert, Four year strong, Hotel of the Laughing Tree, Radiohead, RX Bandits, As Tall as Lions, Tera melos, By the End of Tonight, Closure in Moscow, Damiera, Foxy Shazam, HeavyHeavyLowLow, The mars volta, The number twelve looks like you, Portugal. The man, Silversun Pickups, Sky eats airplane, The sound of animals fighting, Taking back sunday, Tenacious D, Vanna, The white stripes, The offspring, Dr. Acula, Red Museum, Mia Medusa, The Jonbenet, DJ Assault, iamerror, Hot Cross, Norma Jean, Artifex Pereo, As Cities Burn, Battles, Minus The Bear, Explosions In The Sky, Loom, Dr. Manhattan, Brand New, Facing New York, Forgive Durden, Passion Pit, Jay Z, Atomic Ballroom Calamity, The Blood Brothers, I Am Committing Sin, Fall Out Boy


where's the prog, bro?
I spy The Mars Volta and that's it. Kid doesn't know what prog is.

[Gardenhead]

Rx bandits, the mars volta, portugal. the man, the dear hunter, the sound of animals fighting, this town needs guns, tera melos, etc.
LOL.

[MartyrsCasualty]

im not gunna get into a genre argument with you because they are pointless. those bands classify themselves as progressive, as do many music websites, so thats what i call them. i am sure that pretentious d-bags like yourself would love to disagree, however. But personally, i really don't care.

[TheFaceOfZach]

Circa is kind of experimental, so they could be defined I guess as prog. The Number 12 Looks Like You is very progressive, anyone whose seen them life knows that (It was with Jase only on the last day of their tour with Protest the Hero). The Sounds of Animals Fighting again, fairly experimental. Could be seen as progressive.

The guy isn't entirely wrong. We all see bands differently. Some people say The Black Dahlia Murder is just death metal, I think and see that they are melodic death metal (yes, there is a difference). So really, it's in the eye of the beholder is where I'm going with this.

[Gardenhead]

im not gunna get into a genre argument with you because they are pointless. those bands classify themselves as progressive, as do many music websites, so thats what i call them. i am sure that pretentious d-bags like yourself would love to disagree, however. But personally, i really don't care.
Which means you don't really like prog rock, proving my original post. If you don't care, don't challenge the claim.

[x togepi x]

Circa is kind of experimental, so they could be defined I guess as prog. .

There is absolutely nothing experimental about circa survive. cool they don't sound like cobra starship....that doesn't make them experimental at all.

prog and experimental are different anyway, dumbass.

as for this album: kids with shit tastes are stoked.

[MartyrsCasualty]

Which means you don't really like prog rock, proving my original post. If you don't care, don't challenge the claim.

I still think you are wrong, the only reason i stopped caring is because i found out you were a genre nazi. I do like prog, in fact it is my favorite genre for the time being, i just dont like what you consider prog, so i guess your point is correct. People who like the fall of troy don't like what you consider to be prog rock. Of course, maybe to someone else what you listen to isnt quite prog enough, or maybe what i listen to is the real prog. This is all opinionated and thus there is no point to go on and on about it.

[Gardenhead]

I still think you are wrong, the only reason i stopped caring is because i found out you were a genre nazi. I do like prog, in fact it is my favorite genre for the time being, i just dont like what you consider prog, so i guess your point is correct. People who like the fall of troy don't like what you consider to be prog rock. Of course, maybe to someone else what you listen to isnt quite prog enough, or maybe what i listen to is the real prog. This is all opinionated and thus there is no point to go on and on about it.
Actually, what you listen to isn't prog, and no amount of "opinion" changes that.

[Burn That Shit]

I still think you are wrong, the only reason i stopped caring is because i found out you were a genre nazi. I do like prog, in fact it is my favorite genre for the time being, i just dont like what you consider prog, so i guess your point is correct. People who like the fall of troy don't like what you consider to be prog rock. Of course, maybe to someone else what you listen to isnt quite prog enough, or maybe what i listen to is the real prog. This is all opinionated and thus there is no point to go on and on about it.

So what your saying is that I could call a band like Nickleback prog, and I'm not wrong because I think they're prog? lol.

[MartyrsCasualty]

Actually, what you listen to isn't prog, and no amount of "opinion" changes that.

Actually, according to the bands' myspaces and last.fm, the bands i listed are prog, so it is an opinion. Im not saying you can label any band prog and its true because you said it. Im saying that bands that sound prog, and are labeled as such, are indeed prog if much of the public believe so, as is the situation with the bands i listed. It's not like im pulling this out of thin air.... i have other people/sites to back me up, where im sure noone would support a claim that nickleback is prog. Well I'm done here because I'm done arguing these stupid technicalities. If you refuse to open your eyes and see that there are other views besides your own, then that is your problem.

[x togepi x]

the bands are wrong and are just trying to convince you that they're new and original. it's a marketing ploy that you fall for.

[nlo13]

Proggg

[GuitarR0cker1]

Shit band
:nod:

FCPREMIX(or whatever the fuck it is called) is a good song though.

[Gardenhead]

Actually, according to the bands' myspaces and last.fm, the bands i listed are prog, so it is an opinion. Im not saying you can label any band prog and its true because you said it. Im saying that bands that sound prog, and are labeled as such, are indeed prog if much of the public believe so, as is the situation with the bands i listed. It's not like im pulling this out of thin air.... i have other people/sites to back me up, where im sure noone would support a claim that nickleback is prog. Well I'm done here because I'm done arguing these stupid technicalities. If you refuse to open your eyes and see that there are other views besides your own, then that is your problem.
I can say Jay-Z is makes experimental folk-pop and the whole world could agree with me; it doesn't mean I'm right. You claim I'm not "opening my eyes" (not surprising that a fan of The Fall of Troy would use such a trite phrase) and yet, you're the one who is too arrogant to acknowledge that you've been wrong ever since the first time you replied to me.

[nlo13]

:nod:

FCPREMIX(or whatever the fuck it is called) is a good song though.

:hitself:

[GuitarR0cker1]

:hitself:
Good wasn't a good choice of words on my part. Catchy as fuck works though.

[nlo13]

Good wasn't a good choice of words on my part. Catchy as fuck works though.

It's a good gateway song into that kind of genre. But overplayed and overrated as fuck.

[ManchesterOrch8]

here's the entire album for you verbatim:
FINGER TAP FINGER TAP WOM WOM WOM
off key garbage clean vocals
UNLISTENABLE SHIT SCREAM
MORE FINGER TAPS
heroin heroin heroin
ambient noise for 15 minutes
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGER TAAAAAAAAAAAAP SOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOO
FUCK YOU I'LL FIRE MY WHOLE BAND BECAUSE I AM ERAK THE KING OF THE GUITAR
ONE MAN BAND TIME
*drum loop*
SO WHAT IF I CAN'T PLAY ANY OF THIS SHIT LIVE YOU'LL STILL BUY THE RECORD BEWAHAHAHAHA
GIRL JEANS GIVE ME THE STRENGTH OF A THOUSAND SUNS!

No.

[TheFaceOfZach]

There is absolutely nothing experimental about circa survive. cool they don't sound like cobra starship....that doesn't make them experimental at all.

prog and experimental are different anyway, dumbass.

as for this album: kids with shit tastes are stoked.

Aren't you such a friendly fellow?

I said they could be construed to be seen as prog. I don't see them that way. I see bands like Opeth as progressive, don't get what I said twisted.

[GuitarR0cker1]

It's a good gateway song into that kind of genre. But overplayed and overrated as fuck.
I only like the song because of the hook.

[x togepi x]

Aren't you such a friendly fellow?

I said they could be construed to be seen as prog. I don't see them that way. I see bands like Opeth as progressive, don't get what I said twisted.

Anything can be construed as basically anything. That doesn't matter.

This band sucks. Their frontman is an asshole. I'm not going to be nice about them.

[TheFaceOfZach]

Anything can be construed as basically anything. That doesn't matter.

This band sucks. Their frontman is an asshole. I'm not going to be nice about them.

Well, I don't think they suck. They aren't the best thing I've heard in the world. I've never met the band, if you have and the guy was an asshole. Then the guy is an asshole. You have reason to dislike them. Not everyone can agree on the same thing.

[thefallofcorey]

I met Thomas a few years back and he was really nice. While you can be cynical and argue nothing is truely original, I say who gives a shit. It sounded unique to me when I first heard it. I saw them when they were promoting doppelganger and I loved it.

[nlo13]

I met Thomas a few years back and he was really nice. While you can be cynical and argue nothing is truely original, I say who gives a shit. It sounded unique to me when I first heard it. I saw them when they were promoting doppelganger and I loved it.

I've met them and Thomas isn't that nice, he gives off the vibe of a pretentious asshole. Tim left to go to the bar, but Andrew is probably one of the nicest guys I've ever met.

[x togepi x]

Well, I don't think they suck. They aren't the best thing I've heard in the world. I've never met the band, if you have and the guy was an asshole. Then the guy is an asshole. You have reason to dislike them. Not everyone can agree on the same thing.

You're also 16 and have an underoath avatar. You're their target market.

[kbi the crowing]

the fan boys and pointless arguments in here dont surprise me in the slightest...

anyways, hope the vomiting winter got renamed or is a bonus track or something, album art for this looks awesome, really starting to get excited for this (although I don't really know why I wasn't already)

[punk89]

Hmm. Came in here excited to discuss the new album, and instead I encountered a stereotypical "genre argument." Probably the most pointless thing to argue about. Kind of reminds me when my parents were arguing about what shade of green my dad's shirt was... but somehow that discussion has more substance.

Really, guys. Enjoy music. Stop trying to lump everything into categories. You don't sound cool knowing what bands are "omg TRUE progressive"

Anywho. I'm seeing TFOT on Sept 13 for the first time, and I'm way excited.

[achassi]

When exactly did this band start being disliked? When people saw through their generic ass shit?

[lightcollapse]

Doppleganger has some cool guitar parts. I'm stoked.

[muttley]

Do want.

[Supernovacaine]

They're releasing a track today for everyone on the TFOT mailing list! Sweeeet. Subscribe to the mailing list at www.thefalloftroy.com

[Supernovacaine]

"Panic Attack!" has just been released to those on The Fall of Troy mailing list, just about ready to give this one a listen.

[namel]

Its some good shit I reckon...
Well, 'Panic Attack ' is...

[DrewMerc]

Hmm. Came in here excited to discuss the new album, and instead I encountered a stereotypical "genre argument." Probably the most pointless thing to argue about. Kind of reminds me when my parents were arguing about what shade of green my dad's shirt was... but somehow that discussion has more substance.

Really, guys. Enjoy music. Stop trying to lump everything into categories. You don't sound cool knowing what bands are "omg TRUE progressive"

Anywho. I'm seeing TFOT on Sept 13 for the first time, and I'm way excited.

Thank you Punk89 for being the only sane motherfucker on this whole website. If you think this band sucks then why are you posting on this board? Personally I'm super amped for this album, theyre one of my favorite bands ever. But then again since the fall of troy is one of my favorite bands I'm obviously a mindless idiot with my thumb up my ass, so I guess you win Gardenhead. Now go back to that hole in your mom's basement that you crawled out of.

[summer skin]

Thank you Punk89 for being the only sane motherfucker on this whole website. If you think this band sucks then why are you posting on this board? Personally I'm super amped for this album, theyre one of my favorite bands ever. But then again since the fall of troy is one of my favorite bands I'm obviously a mindless idiot with my thumb up my ass, so I guess you win Gardenhead. Now go back to that hole in your mom's basement that you crawled out of.
Are you being sarcastic or just honest?

[harveyn590]

Is this album coming out on vinyl?

[iaminsane20]

Stoked to say the least.
Panic Attack is a pretty killer track.
And, in case I missed it, what is up with The Vommiting Winter?

[Birdflu777]

I've listened to Panic Attack! so many times. I LOVE IT.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

Stoked to say the least.
Panic Attack is a pretty killer track.
And, in case I missed it, what is up with The Vommiting Winter?


Going to be a b-side, apparently.

[iaminsane20]

Going to be a b-side, apparently.
Sweet.
Hope they release it.

[neontiger]

i just listened to there new song, Panic Attack an if there other song are anything as amazing as this song this cd will be one of the best cds this year

[KingsCrossing]

I've heard a few of the new songs, they're quite good. Still noodly, but definitely have a poppier, more streamlined feel to them.

[dacheat57]

Panic Attack is a really good song and I'm stoked for the album, but does anybody listen to the track and think that it sounds like strangely different from their old stuff? like i understand a band will change its sound from album to album but after hearing panic attack i was just left feeling this strange difference between their previous work and this new song. anybody else getting that feeling?

[softhands]

hey, Doppelgänger is good.

[KingsCrossing]

Album is amazing. Perfect blend of Doppleganger and Manipulator (and no it didn't leak yet).

[briewer]

Glad to know they stole their typeface from a Loretta Lynn album:

http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers /3482/cover_4157182782009.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/music/diamondawards/images3/vanlearrose.jpg

[summer skin]

pretty dark, brah

[mycuban]

Album is amazing. Perfect blend of Doppleganger and Manipulator (and no it didn't leak yet).

i can't wait to hear it, by the way i like your name (assuming it's an Elliott Smith reference) that is one of my favorite songs.

[KingsCrossing]

i can't wait to hear it, by the way i like your name (assuming it's an Elliott Smith reference) that is one of my favorite songs.

haha thanks, it's easily my favorite song by him as well... that whole album is really one of my favorites.

I think everyone will love the new TFOT album.. it's heavy and noodly like Doppleganger, but still retains some of the poppier, straightforward elements of Manipulator.

[Simulcast]

You're also 16 and have an underoath avatar. You're their target market.

That why they toured with the Deftones and got Terry Date as a producer?

[x togepi x]

That why they toured with the Deftones and got Terry Date as a producer?

who a band tours with does not necessarily reflect their target market. At The Drive-in toured with Rage Against The Machine even though their market was infinitely different. Thursday has started to regularly tour with bands like Young Widows that don't fit their scenester market.

[KingsCrossing]

who a band tours with does not necessarily reflect their target market. At The Drive-in toured with Rage Against The Machine even though their market was infinitely different. Thursday has started to regularly tour with bands like Young Widows that don't fit their scenester market.

Most of the time bands usually do tour with other bands that fit into their target demographic. In a few exceptions they don't. However, I could easily see how Deftones fans would appreciate TFOT as both bands seem to attract a diverse fanbase. As for Thursday inviting Young Widows out on tour with them, that also makes sense. Not everyone who likes Thursday is a scenester. They also have a pretty diverse fanbase.

[gibson243]

thomas erak is an amazing musician along with the rest of tfot but i think think thats in the unlikely event will be one of the best albums they have brought out.

[kemichels]

17 year old Kid with 8 posts coming in with some profound statements, right there.

[Simulcast]

who a band tours with does not necessarily reflect their target market. At The Drive-in toured with Rage Against The Machine even though their market was infinitely different. Thursday has started to regularly tour with bands like Young Widows that don't fit their scenester market.

...and Terry Date?

I would say their age and the fact that they have breakdowns is what initially made them appealing to the "underoath" crowd as you put it. Whether or not that is their target market, you can't deny that they are talented. If you really listen to their work, there is a lot more going on than just tapping and chugging. I just found it odd that someone could dismiss them so quickly.

[x togepi x]

...and Terry Date?

proves nothing. Steve Albini produced Nirvana. Nirvana's market wasn't at all the same as the stuff Steve Albini produced.

I would say their age and the fact that they have breakdowns is what initially made them appealing to the "underoath" crowd as you put it. Whether or not that is their target market, you can't deny that they are talented. If you really listen to their work, there is a lot more going on than just tapping and chugging. I just found it odd that someone could dismiss them so quickly.

Their work is awful. It's just boring wanking, bad screaming and bad singing. I could go to guitar center and hear the same thing. meh. someone buy me decent recording equipment. i have 4 delay pedals. i could do this shit.

[Simulcast]

proves nothing. Steve Albini produced Nirvana. Nirvana's market wasn't at all the same as the stuff Steve Albini produced.



Their work is awful. It's just boring wanking, bad screaming and bad singing. I could go to guitar center and hear the same thing. meh. someone buy me decent recording equipment. i have 4 delay pedals. i could do this shit.

Unfortunately I can't argue against an "I can do this shit" maneuver. Fair enough though. I understand it's not for everybody.

[mycuban]

haha thanks, it's easily my favorite song by him as well... that whole album is really one of my favorites.

I think everyone will love the new TFOT album.. it's heavy and noodly like Doppleganger, but still retains some of the poppier, straightforward elements of Manipulator.

yeah FABOTH is a great album and i'll take your word on the new TFOT, i'm stoked to get my pre-order.

[summer skin]

yeah FABOTH is a great album and i'll take your word on the new TFOT, i'm stoked to get my pre-order.
This post gives me an amazing idea and I think Chris will be on board with this... We combine dumb teenagers love for Underoath and the recent band wagon fanbase of the Beatles, combine the two and you get:
FABOATH

The single greatest gimmick, get rich quick scheme since Thomas Erak discovered delay pedals!
Anyone who likes money, get on board with this.
possible track listing:
1. Help! (I need you lord)
2.withinYouwithoutYou (feat.Arron Weiss)
3.I've got ten friends and a crowbar that says you're gonna lose that girl

[popdisaster00]

Man I really want this album to drip

[KingsCrossing]

Interviewed Tom two nights ago. Will post here when it's done.

[muttley]

The deluxe edition is sold out. I wanted that shit.

[ThrownAwayKyle]

they posted 30 second previews of all the songs at amazon.com

seems like they chose the most poppy parts of each song... oh well

[ManchesterOrch8]

Thoughts?


It's realllllllllly good.


So far, 5 tracks in haha

[pand75]

It sucks.

[aradiantsunrise]

I'm waiting until October 6th. TFOT tweeted about the album being sold at the shows early starting tonight so that's cool for people who will be hitting those up.

[BearVsShaan]

doppelganger is possibly my favorite cd ever, and manipulator might be the biggest dissapointment i've ever had in anticipation of an album.

fall of troy really sucks now, i saw them live again last week with thursday and everything was terrible. their set sucks and is now watered down from the glory days where they could rip through their self titled, dopp, and early manipulator tracks. thomas is a wanker, and their instruments sounded horrible...i don't know what happened to his AD140 but it sounds so thin and has no articulation.

anyway dopp was an awesome blend of aggression, fast paced awesome guitar work, prog song structures, poppy melodies and harmonies, and hardcore breakdowns. everything since is seemingly a cheap imitation of that album....manipulator had its moments, but the best songs were the ones being played whilethe doppelganger tours were happening, like seattlantis, or AMAPACP.

i've heard a couple new songs from the album, live and from the studio, and i don't know, it just isn't hitting the same spot for me. oh well, maybe i just outgrew their style....i do still love doppelganger though, great album.

[ManchesterOrch8]

doppelganger is possibly my favorite cd ever, and manipulator might be the biggest dissapointment i've ever had in anticipation of an album.

fall of troy really sucks now, i saw them live again last week with thursday and everything was terrible. their set sucks and is now watered down from the glory days where they could rip through their self titled, dopp, and early manipulator tracks. thomas is a wanker, and their instruments sounded horrible...i don't know what happened to his AD140 but it sounds so thin and has no articulation.

anyway dopp was an awesome blend of aggression, fast paced awesome guitar work, prog song structures, poppy melodies and harmonies, and hardcore breakdowns. everything since is seemingly a cheap imitation of that album....manipulator had its moments, but the best songs were the ones being played whilethe doppelganger tours were happening, like seattlantis, or AMAPACP.

i've heard a couple new songs from the album, live and from the studio, and i don't know, it just isn't hitting the same spot for me. oh well, maybe i just outgrew their style....i do still love doppelganger though, great album.

You have to take it for what it is,


I honestly think they're just getting better. Doppelganger was a great album, and Manipulator was far from a disapointment.


I've listened to Manipulator far more than I ever did Doppelganger when it came out. I love how every album Thomas just gets more and more agressive and pushes the lyrics farther and farther, Laces Out, Dan is nothing compared to Problem?!, they're just growing more as musicians and I respect that,


I know it's a really cliche thing to say, but it's the truth, they're growing and putting more into their albums now, which I'd rather have than their first record that was recorded over a spring break in high school.

Though, I still love that first record.


And as far as the way they sounded, it may have been the venue not meshing with their sound, seeing them on a headlining slot is better than seeing them as support. Though, I still love seeing them anyway

[SophGod]

Though, I still love that first record.

that record is pretty sick. Reassurance Rests In The Sea was the first song i ever heard by them and it remains my favorite.

[ManchesterOrch8]

Honestly could not pick a favorite from that record,


all time favorites are on Doppelganger and Manipulator, too early to tell with ITUE

[mattmatumbo]

doppelganger is possibly my favorite cd ever, and manipulator might be the biggest dissapointment i've ever had in anticipation of an album.

fall of troy really sucks now, i saw them live again last week with thursday and everything was terrible. their set sucks and is now watered down from the glory days where they could rip through their self titled, dopp, and early manipulator tracks. thomas is a wanker, and their instruments sounded horrible...i don't know what happened to his AD140 but it sounds so thin and has no articulation.

anyway dopp was an awesome blend of aggression, fast paced awesome guitar work, prog song structures, poppy melodies and harmonies, and hardcore breakdowns. everything since is seemingly a cheap imitation of that album....manipulator had its moments, but the best songs were the ones being played whilethe doppelganger tours were happening, like seattlantis, or AMAPACP.

i've heard a couple new songs from the album, live and from the studio, and i don't know, it just isn't hitting the same spot for me. oh well, maybe i just outgrew their style....i do still love doppelganger though, great album.

My exact sentiments, except i loved Phantom on the Horizon, regardless i'm not going to listen to this album.

[Cyan Trimalchio]

I don't know what the fuck happened to these guys.

Does maturing mean becoming generic and playing shit songs that you would hear on the radio? What happened to their element of math rock, Thomas' clever lyrics, the aggression, everything? It all seems so watered down.

Big fucking disappointment for me, I guess they won't go back to the Self-Titled/Ghostship EP/Doppelganger days. What a shame.

I even enjoyed Manipulator. But this? Fuck, it broke my heart when I listened to this shit because I know they can do better than this garbage.

My .02

[jay_klinkhammer]

doppelganger is possibly my favorite cd ever, and manipulator might be the biggest dissapointment i've ever had in anticipation of an album.



Manipulator is their best album hands down.

[Greg.Kushlan]

Vocally, it sounds like on some tracks their vocalist is trying to rip off Nate from Finch. Not in a good way either, I'm taking about the crappy prog finch.

[IWasHerHorse]

doppelganger is possibly my favorite cd ever, and manipulator might be the biggest dissapointment i've ever had in anticipation of an album.

fall of troy really sucks now, i saw them live again last week with thursday and everything was terrible. their set sucks and is now watered down from the glory days where they could rip through their self titled, dopp, and early manipulator tracks. thomas is a wanker, and their instruments sounded horrible...i don't know what happened to his AD140 but it sounds so thin and has no articulation.

anyway dopp was an awesome blend of aggression, fast paced awesome guitar work, prog song structures, poppy melodies and harmonies, and hardcore breakdowns. everything since is seemingly a cheap imitation of that album....manipulator had its moments, but the best songs were the ones being played whilethe doppelganger tours were happening, like seattlantis, or AMAPACP.

i've heard a couple new songs from the album, live and from the studio, and i don't know, it just isn't hitting the same spot for me. oh well, maybe i just outgrew their style....i do still love doppelganger though, great album.


I agree, I haven't heard the new cd but when I heard the opening to Panic Attack I thought the guitar tone was a joke. Idk if I outgrew this band, or they actually aren't good anymore or what, but I can't see myself becoming excited for any future release.

[quicksilv001]

I didn't enjoy Panic Attack very much. I hope that song isn't an indicator of the whole album.

[jay_klinkhammer]

Very disappointed.

Of course ETID and HORSE both have spectacular albums that I've been spinning so it'd be hard for this to even disrupt that.

[Supernovacaine]

Very disappointed.

Of course ETID and HORSE both have spectacular albums that I've been spinning so it'd be hard for this to even disrupt that.

Completely agree! New HORSE album really exceeded my expectations. New TFOT isn't very impressive.

[popdisaster00]

Manipulator is their best album hands down.
Agreed. Well for me its like a split between that and doppelganger but its 51/49 in the favor of manipulator

Haven't listened to this album all the way through yet but I think i'll be kind of disappointed. we'll see. Regardless, TFOT tore it the fuck up last night in MPLS. I posted their setlist in the setlist forum

[mattmatumbo]

I agree, I haven't heard the new cd but when I heard the opening to Panic Attack I thought the guitar tone was a joke. Idk if I outgrew this band, or they actually aren't good anymore or what, but I can't see myself becoming excited for any future release.

Ok never mind, i agree with you wholeheartedly

[aradiantsunrise]

Thought this was cool, Thomas talks about each song on the new album.

http://www.altpress.com/features/txtthefalloftroy.htm

[_><_]

The song writing is top-notch, but the guitar tones and Thomas' voice sound wierd. Otherwise it's decent.

[BearVsShaan]

it blows my mind people think manipulator is in any way better than doppelganger.

the guitar tone is worse, teh vocals are worse, the songwriting is worse, the entire production is worse.

and someone said that laces out is nothing compard to problem? ...problem is obscenely generic cock rock compared to laces out

[Clark]

Same story. The music is great and the vocals are weak.

They should probably add a vocalist that can sing to their band. Although Thomas Erak probably would never allow that.

[MartyrsCasualty]

ugh.... can i change my username?

[kbi the crowing]

Same story. The music is great and the vocals are weak.

They should probably add a vocalist that can sing to their band. Although Thomas Erak probably would never allow that.

I thought about this same thing for a while, but he's really not that bad. The vocals aren't as good on the album but they aren't awful (in my opinion, of course).

[kbi the crowing]

ugh.... can i change my username?
are you saying this because you don't like In The Unlikely Event?

[MartyrsCasualty]

are you saying this because you don't like In The Unlikely Event?

yeah...

[kbi the crowing]

yeah...

just because you don't like something they're doing now doesn't mean you shouldn't like what they did in the past that you do like, that's non-nonsensical.

[MartyrsCasualty]

just because you don't like something they're doing now doesn't mean you shouldn't like what they did in the past that you do like, that's non-nonsensical.

Actually i was getting quite tired of their old stuff, as I've heard it too much, and I was hoping that this record would save them for me. It didn't. I may have just grown out of the genre though, I can't tell.

[kbi the crowing]

Actually i was getting quite tired of their old stuff, as I've heard it too much, and I was hoping that this record would save them for me. It didn't. I may have just grown out of the genre though, I can't tell.

oh, so you knew you may have been growing out of it but you still chose the username?

[MartyrsCasualty]

oh, so you knew you may have been growing out of it but you still chose the username?

I just said I couldn't tell if I was..... and I made the username right before the release of ITUE when panic attack was released, which is one of the songs on the CD I actually enjoy. The song got me pumped up, and for lack of a better user name, I used this one.

[kbi the crowing]

I just said I couldn't tell if I was..... and I made the username right before the release of ITUE when panic attack was released, which is one of the songs on the CD I actually enjoy. The song got me pumped up, and for lack of a better user name, I used this one.

I just don't think you should complain all that much, it's still a sweet user name regardless of it's reference.

[jar222]

Honestly, I have no idea what happened to this band. No matter which way I go around it, these guys suck now. Their first album was decent for a bunch of 15/16 year olds. Doppelganger was genius. Pure genius. The harmonies, attention to detail, originality, lyrics, vocal melodies, effect layering, amazing guitar melodies, manipulation of volume and eq's to produce climax and suspense underlyingly. Doppelganger is a testament to Post-Hardcore genius. Ghostship demos was a shitty recording but was amazing nontheless. Now Manipulator. A lot of people liked it. I personally didn't like it much. For some reason they completely changed the tone of their guitars, amps, distortion to this very shitttty sound. Ironically Tom has gotten a vocal coach for this album yet he was singing at a ridiculously off tone for of the songs. His singing voice sounded muffled and unlively and out of tune while his screaming definitely lacked the same intense energy as before. The only reason this album was perceived as decent because they had incorporated either b side songs from doppelganger or doppelganger like elements. Such as Seaattlantis being from the old days (although the newly recorded vocals just totally screwed it up). And songs like ex-creations which just used concrete fall of troy formula goodness to a measely C instead of the previous A+'s. I was shocked and devastated seeing one of my favorite bands ever fall like this, but I had hope. Phantom on the Horizon came out. The new song additions were good I really dug em. The remake though wasnt that great. Because again the guitar, amp, and distortion tone SUCKEDDDD. The singing was more out of tune and lacked luster, screaming was nowhere near as good. And some of the new changes they made lacked the rawness of the old version. It reminds of my of old saosin with anthony green, where they were so damn raw, and then when he was gone saosin tried to adopt this "professional" sound which made em sound more plastic, losing that gritty rawness. But alas since phantom did come from the amazing backbones of ghostship it wasnt all bad. But then In the Unlikely Event came out. It was my last hope for these guys. And man you know i really really really tried to like this album. But it just sucked sooooo much. The guitar, amp, distortion tones got even worse somehow. HIS SINGING GOT EVEN MORE OUT OF TUNE SOMEHOW!!!. They adopted very very very shittly done pop sounds. If ur gonna do pop, do it right come on. There were decent riffs, but they were followed up by messy unharmonious cheap "oh well this sounds decent right?" riffs just lazily assembled. This album made manipulator look very very decent for me. I gave up on these guys. And wondered what went wrong. I really did. How can someones vocals get worse in like 2 years. How can his vocal coach screw him up. How could you knowingly downgrade your rig's tone quality. How could you abandon your signature crazy screams. HOW?... I understand they didnt want to be doppelganger forever and i support those changes. But my god do it well. Circa Survive took hugggge leaps in musical direction from juturna/on letting go to the more hard hitting blue sky noise. Although in some ways I like on letting go sound more, blue sky noise was done so damn well in its new direction/category, that i cannot ignore it as a great album to listen to whenever i want a more hard hitting direct sounding circa survive. Fall of Troy shouldve just disbanded after Phantom. I hope the band since breaking up is doing well though. Doppelganger and Ghostship are by far some of the best things I have ever come across in the world of rock. Peace.