Will not joining a Frat prevent me from enjoying college?

[Car Crash Dream]

I just moved into my dorm on Wednesday, and I've been going to all the events they have going on. Today was the 'Fraternity Barbecue!' ordeal, and so I figured I would go, even though I've never been into the whole fraternity ordeal. The first thing that the first frat guy at the first booth says is "Fucking women and hot titties in your face!" Appealing, right? So if I end up not joining a frat, will that ruin my college experience?

P.S. I'm not at a huge state college. I'm at Embry Riddle in Daytona Beach. A private university.

[DCfreak]

Highly doubt it. While living on campus, you will have so many chances to make friends. You should be fine

[caress me down]

Fucking ew. That's dirty.

There's no way I'm ever joining a sorrority

[Kassie09]

I for sure want to join a sorority, but that's how I am.

If you're not into all of that/a bro, joining a fraternity definitely is not going to ruin anythinggggggg.

[MarsEatWorld]

I want to make a sorority with girls that enjoy SPORTS.

[Kassie09]

shopping is a sport, okay?

[MarsEatWorld]

shopping is a sport, okay?
hahaahahaa.
Yeah, wasting cash instead of calories.

[Car Crash Dream]

I've never been into partying, I actually don't even drink. I've always found the concept kind of ridiculous and socially excluding.

EDIT: The concept of frats, not drinking.

Also considering that I'm spending almost thirty five thousand dollars each year, I don't feel like wasting it on getting smashed.

[Amped]

Simple answer is no.

[Car Crash Dream]

Fucking awesome. Alright, thanks everyone. To be honest, if you guys would've said yes, I still wouldn't of joined.

[4N6 science]

I never joined and had a great experience. You don't need to buy douche bag friends.

[Montauk1222]

No you can have plenty of fun without all the broskis.

[anamericangod]

Fuck sororities. They are run completely different from fraternities, and are a total sham.

You shouldn't feel the need to join a frat. It should be something that you legitimately feel like being a part of. You are going to devote a lot of time to it, you're going to go through being a pledge, and it's something you're supposed to be proud of. Yeah, some people are walking stereotypes, but not everyone is.

It shouldn't be a question you really have to ask yourself. And if you're going to join a frat that is taking basically anyone who wants to join, then you're going to be wasting your time. It definitely enhances your social experience and will give you other opportunities non-Greek students won't have, but you shouldn't feel forced to join one, or to join one just for the fuck of it.

Then again, maybe you're just a douchebag anyways and doing whatever will suit you perfectly well. Just my thoughts.

I never joined and had a great experience. You don't need to buy douche bag friends.

It's not buying friends at all. That "argument" is miserable. Please be quiet.

[spunkmastaflex]

Im from a really big college and the frat experience here is completely different than a small college, however... one of my best friends went to a small college and joined a frat and loved it. I think if you join a frat, make sure its one with some good guys that you get to know. If their frat house is also really small that means you might not be forced to live there which is really nice. You can just use it as networking tool. If you do not join, it won't kill your social life tho so dont worry.

[Car Crash Dream]

Then again, maybe you're just a douchebag anyways and doing whatever will suit you perfectly well. Just my thoughts.


I understood the rest of your post, and appreciate the in-depth input, but I don't understand how doing whatever I think will suit me best makes me a douchebag. I'm hoping I misunderstood it.

[robs]

asking if you should join a fraternity on ap.net will get you the same replies as asking if you should get a job at mcdonalds on the peta forums.
if you dont know anyone in a fraternity on your campus just make sure to check out all the houses and get to know as many people as possible before making a decision

[MarsEatWorld]

asking if you should join a fraternity on ap.net will get you the same replies as asking if you should get a job at mcdonalds on the peta forums.
if you dont know anyone in a fraternity on your campus just make sure to check out all the houses and get to know as many people as possible before making a decision
epic analogy

[anamericangod]

I understood the rest of your post, and appreciate the in-depth input, but I don't understand how doing whatever I think will suit me best makes me a douchebag. I'm hoping I misunderstood it.

You misunderstood. I was saying that if you are indeed already a douchebag, it won't really matter what you choose. I wasn't saying you are a douchebag, just in case you were. If you are currently a douchebag, joining any frat to get drunk/fuck bitches/etc etc will suit you just fine and give you more chances to do douchebaggy things than compared to just being a traditional student.

If however you are not a douchebag, I would highly recommend using other reasons and motivations for choosing a fraternity to join.

Hope that clarifies what I said.

[AndrewIcex]

No, fuck them all.

Beer Pong, Bongs and Bitches can all be achieved else where, don't let them fool you.

[smogs]

It'll probably make you enjoy college even more.

[Jaimehere]

you can enjoy all the chicks, alcohol and whatever the hell you want without a frat, and being in one would just make you have more responsibilities

[Broclee]

No way. I'm in a frat, but it's not a brotastic frat like you'd normally see. You'll make plenty of friends yourself, and have a great time. Also, like Joe said, it should be something you really want to be a part of.

[bladerdude360]

I think at any school you can have a social life however you choose, but especially at a smaller school it's easier to have a social life without joining a frat (from what I've heard, not from personal experience).

[crypticv24]

I would rush if you want the best feel for whether you'd like it or not. You don't have to actually join any frats or anything, but if you rush at least you'll get a good feel for what each frat is about and you'll be less likely to join a shitty stoner frat or miss out on a bunch of people that could be good friends.

Honestly, you'll probably have fun either way. Just don't let yourself think it's a make-or-break decision for your college career, because it's not, no matter what anyone says.

[HoustonCalling]

you should still check out all the events that they host. if they are good dudes, you may want to join.

[saveferris]

Not joining a frat might make college better. I don't wanna hang around a bunch of dudes with goatees and backwards hats and get drunk while listening to Dave Matthews. Frat boys are a dime a dozen, just meet some cool people that you can connect with. There's so much shit to do in college (I didn't go by the way but I have a lot of friends that do) you won't need to be in some lame ass fraternity.

[anamericangod]

I would rush if you want the best feel for whether you'd like it or not. You don't have to actually join any frats or anything, but if you rush at least you'll get a good feel for what each frat is about and you'll be less likely to join a shitty stoner frat or miss out on a bunch of people that could be good friends.

Honestly, you'll probably have fun either way. Just don't let yourself think it's a make-or-break decision for your college career, because it's not, no matter what anyone says.

That's why people should go through Rush. They can get a feel for the different frats, you get to meet a ton of people regardless of whether or not you join, and it really might open your eyes to what it's about instead of just the stereotypes.

Not joining a frat might make college better. I don't wanna hang around a bunch of dudes with goatees and backwards hats and get drunk while listening to Dave Matthews. Frat boys are a dime a dozen, just meet some cool people that you can connect with. There's so much shit to do in college (I didn't go by the way but I have a lot of friends that do) you won't need to be in some lame ass fraternity.

Your perception is quite ignorant.

The best part of your statement is "There's so much shit to do in college (I didn't go by the way but I have a lot of friends that do)."

Yeah, your opinion should be valued...

[Broclee]

Not joining a frat might make college better. I don't wanna hang around a bunch of dudes with goatees and backwards hats and get drunk while listening to Dave Matthews. Frat boys are a dime a dozen, just meet some cool people that you can connect with. There's so much shit to do in college (I didn't go by the way but I have a lot of friends that do) you won't need to be in some lame ass fraternity.

Could your generalizations be any more sweeping?

As a frat guy, I:
-Don't have a goatee.
-Don't wear hats. Ever.
-Only get drunk listening to blink-182.

Not all fraternities are "lame ass" party houses. People like you are why I get embarrassed talking about being in a fraternity outside of school.

[newfoundmichael]

Not joining a frat might make college better. I don't wanna hang around a bunch of dudes with goatees and backwards hats and get drunk while listening to Dave Matthews. Frat boys are a dime a dozen, just meet some cool people that you can connect with. There's so much shit to do in college (I didn't go by the way but I have a lot of friends that do) you won't need to be in some lame ass fraternity.


Take this with a huge grain of salt, kid. This is a partially ignorant comment.

I never joined a frat, but I rushed. With my experience there were about two or three frats with quite a few guys that he describes here, but the rest of the frats were actually full of cool guys. You are going to make your friends one way or the other so don't worry about that, but joining a frat will help keep some order to the crazy college experience.

I don't know you personally, so my best advice is to rush. If you feel like you really connected with the guys in one of them (and they make you an offer) then I'd say go for it.

[phil19]

havnt you seen revenge of the nerds? they only got the ladiez after they had their own frat

[And Hours Pass]

asking if you should join a fraternity on ap.net will get you the same replies as asking if you should get a job at mcdonalds on the peta forums.
if you dont know anyone in a fraternity on your campus just make sure to check out all the houses and get to know as many people as possible before making a decision

Probably the best advice in this thread.


No, fuck them all.

Beer Pong, Bongs and Bitches can all be achieved else where, don't let them fool you.

Oh yeah, that's what frats do. They fool you into thinking that their purpose is to harbor the precious aforementioned commodities. You should hang with the superstar quoted right below this.


Not joining a frat might make college better. I don't wanna hang around a bunch of dudes with goatees and backwards hats and get drunk while listening to Dave Matthews. Frat boys are a dime a dozen, just meet some cool people that you can connect with. There's so much shit to do in college (I didn't go by the way but I have a lot of friends that do) you won't need to be in some lame ass fraternity.

I've never been someone to be condescending, but because you are, my advice is to get anything past a high school education and then feel free to share your opinion. Actually, don't share it, but you can at least be more justified for having it.


Could your generalizations be any more sweeping?

As a frat guy, I:
-Don't have a goatee.
-Don't wear hats. Ever.
-Only get drunk listening to blink-182.

Not all fraternities are "lame ass" party houses. People like you are why I get embarrassed talking about being in a fraternity outside of school.

I echo everything written in this post (with the addition that I like getting drunk listening to a lot of different music - though blink is always a good choice).

[Yellowcard2006]

35K a year. That's an insane amount of money. But yeah, if you think the frat life is for you (which you already said you aren't joining) go for it. Otherwise, find other stuff to do.

[anamericangod]

Could your generalizations be any more sweeping?

As a frat guy, I:
-Don't have a goatee.
-Don't wear hats. Ever.
-Only get drunk listening to blink-182.

Not all fraternities are "lame ass" party houses. People like you are why I get embarrassed talking about being in a fraternity outside of school.

I was so not the typical frat guy when I went through rush, pledge period, and even after joining the frat. Yeah, I changed, but not for the worse, and I wasn't doing things just to fit in. I don't have a goatee. I fucking hate Dave Matthews and OAR. There were a lot of cadets in my frat, and it is a military based one as well, I had long hair and was a civilian. I don't even drink.

Your last statement is spot on. Some people just don't get it, and that's alright I suppose. They can talk shit and pass judgment and hold themselves back for whatever reason, but in the end they're basing their opinion on bullshit, and for them to give somebody advice is just wrong.

[amysaurus]

Going Greek can be very helpful in finding connections for future job possibilities, as well as making really great friends. Don't join just so you can party.. you can always party without rushing.

[badasstunes!]

dude bitches arrr everywhere! the guys i know that arrr in frats arrr all the same alcoholic lame people..... build yourself a personality and not bro out.

[saveferris]

Take this with a huge grain of salt, kid. This is a partially ignorant comment.

I never joined a frat, but I rushed. With my experience there were about two or three frats with quite a few guys that he describes here, but the rest of the frats were actually full of cool guys. You are going to make your friends one way or the other so don't worry about that, but joining a frat will help keep some order to the crazy college experience.

I don't know you personally, so my best advice is to rush. If you feel like you really connected with the guys in one of them (and they make you an offer) then I'd say go for it.
It is ignorant, ill give you that, but i'm a little biased because the college that's near me has those types of frat boys and I get kind of sick of them.

[saveferris]

Could your generalizations be any more sweeping?

As a frat guy, I:
-Don't have a goatee.
-Don't wear hats. Ever.
-Only get drunk listening to blink-182.

Not all fraternities are "lame ass" party houses. People like you are why I get embarrassed talking about being in a fraternity outside of school.
Fair enough, i'm just calling it like I see them. Where I live there's nothing but those types.

[saveferris]

Probably the best advice in this thread.




Oh yeah, that's what frats do. They fool you into thinking that their purpose is to harbor the precious aforementioned commodities. You should hang with the superstar quoted right below this.




I've never been someone to be condescending, but because you are, my advice is to get anything past a high school education and then feel free to share your opinion. Actually, don't share it, but you can at least be more justified for having it.




I echo everything written in this post (with the addition that I like getting drunk listening to a lot of different music - though blink is always a good choice).
I officially renound my statement. And I graduated high school in 07, was accepted into college but skipped to work full time. I didn't put a lot of thought into my statement it just kind of came out I just kind of get sick of bro's sometimes. I know people in frats are cool. My statement is justified because those are the only frat guys i've seen where I live, I didn't know there was any other kind. You gotta admit though frats do portray that image sometimes.

[saveferris]

I just got rightfully owned by like three people in this thread so i'll say this, not joining a frat won't make college less enjoyable, bottom line. Find out what a fraternity you like does and feel the people out, if you don't like it don't do it, simple as that. College is a growing experience and it's about finding yourself and learning new things. You don't need a fraternity to do that. But do whatever you want

[Car Crash Dream]

You misunderstood. I was saying that if you are indeed already a douchebag, it won't really matter what you choose. I wasn't saying you are a douchebag, just in case you were. If you are currently a douchebag, joining any frat to get drunk/fuck bitches/etc etc will suit you just fine and give you more chances to do douchebaggy things than compared to just being a traditional student.

If however you are not a douchebag, I would highly recommend using other reasons and motivations for choosing a fraternity to join.

Hope that clarifies what I said.


Ah, that clears things up wonderfully. I would hope I'm not a douchebag. I appreciate the clarification.

[Skillen]

Seeing as I'm from the UK and we doin't have frats or anything like that, this may be different but I go to university and a lot of te people seem to end up getting too caught up in hanging out with the same few students.

To the point where all there friends hang out together, and personally this seems rediculous to me. Mayby I just find meeting people easier but I've seen this go south with a few people, wether the reasons are just or gossip doesn't really matter, but having one group of peoples opinon on you matter so much is usually risky. So my advice would be not do something your uncomfortable with and talk to everyone and try to make your social group as wide as possible.

[Car Crash Dream]

Well I appreciate everyone's input. As of now it is looking like my plan will be to rush, just to check a few out, but I will be avoiding the originally quoted Frat in it's entirety. In the end, I will probably look into joining one next fall, in my sophomore year, because I am putting way too much money into my degree to not put every second of time and ounce of energy into it.

[jwicklun]

I'm in a fraternity, you may have easier access to parties, but other than that, you'll be fine

[Broclee]

I echo everything written in this post (with the addition that I like getting drunk listening to a lot of different music - though blink is always a good choice).

The blink-182 part was more of in jest, that was the point I was trying to get across.

Fair enough, i'm just calling it like I see them. Where I live there's nothing but those types.

Fair enough, especially since you followed it up with this:

I just got rightfully owned by like three people in this thread so i'll say this, not joining a frat won't make college less enjoyable, bottom line. Find out what a fraternity you like does and feel the people out, if you don't like it don't do it, simple as that. College is a growing experience and it's about finding yourself and learning new things. You don't need a fraternity to do that. But do whatever you want

Well I appreciate everyone's input. As of now it is looking like my plan will be to rush, just to check a few out, but I will be avoiding the originally quoted Frat in it's entirety. In the end, I will probably look into joining one next fall, in my sophomore year, because I am putting way too much money into my degree to not put every second of time and ounce of energy into it.

That sounds like a good plan, man. Completely serious.

[Mitch]

Frats are pretty fucking stupid imo.

[jwicklun]

Well I appreciate everyone's input. As of now it is looking like my plan will be to rush, just to check a few out, but I will be avoiding the originally quoted Frat in it's entirety. In the end, I will probably look into joining one next fall, in my sophomore year, because I am putting way too much money into my degree to not put every second of time and ounce of energy into it.
good idea. most of the guys in my pledge class were in the exact situation, and believe me you're on the right track. I wasn't into greek life at first, but after going through the pledge process, I made a lot good friends and am more involved in college than I was in high school. Avoid a house that will diliberatly haze you. If they're pulling shit on you, then believe me its what other people say being "paid friendship." All I can say is get to know all the guys, make sure they're not douche bags, then your good to go.

[wroteurname]

By not joining a frat you'll be more likely to meet a more diverse group of people and find friends you really like. A lot of people who I know in frats are pretty socially isolated and all the responsibilities and shit are lame. Being in a frat is not how the movies make it seem.

[newfoundmichael]

It is ignorant, ill give you that, but i'm a little biased because the college that's near me has those types of frat boys and I get kind of sick of them.


Well every college has those type of guys. You won't go to many universities in the US that don't have those type of guys. What you will find when you go to college though is that it is actually a small percentage of guys who actually are like this. The frats I was partially interested in were really into sports and music (good music) which is what I like a lot. More advice for that kid is find guys in frats who share your interests. That is a huge way to make friends through the frats around your campus. Most of the guys you run into will probably still chill out with you every once in a while whether or not you join their frat.

[Nick Le]

No. Dorming can turn out to be a really great experience. I grew really close to all the girls and guys on my floor last year and I'd say that it was one of the best experiences of my life. I'm still living with some of the guys and a couple of them are in a frat and I'm sure it's cool and I know they like it, but it just wasn't for me. You can still have a lot of fun kicking back and hanging out with your own friends that you'll make.

[lrz2525]

I want to make a sorority with girls that enjoy SPORTS.
most sororities do intramural sports...but if you're looking to be around girls that are the jock type then definitely look at chi omega

[MarsEatWorld]

most sororities do intramural sports...but if you're looking to be around girls that are the jock type then definitely look at chi omega
I mean, I don't want to be around jocks but I want girls that can TALK about sports...which isn't even common among the girls that do play sports.

[.invisible ink.]

I want to make a sorority with girls that enjoy SPORTS.

i'm pretty sure lesbian fraternities already exist.

[MarsEatWorld]

i'm pretty sure lesbian fraternities already exist.
I hate you lil bitch.

but I'll admit.that was a good one.

[Tim Lincecum]

frats are dumb, youll have MORE FUN not being in one

[anamericangod]

Some of these arguments are so fucking stupid.

[Broclee]

frats are dumb, youll have MORE FUN not being in one
:rolleyes:

[JJtrackie716]

There are good and bad ones, at my school there is like one decent frat w/ legit dudes, and then the others are the stereotypical douchebags that wear blowouts and think being in a frat makes them better than everyone.

[OldJersey]

Some of these arguments are so fucking stupid.

Stupid is an understatement, I like shallow better.

[OldJersey]

frats are dumb, youll have MORE FUN not being in one

I am glad Tim Lincecum took time out of his busy busy schedule and put in his two cents though

[omgrawr]

nah

[And Hours Pass]

I just got rightfully owned by like three people in this thread so i'll say this, not joining a frat won't make college less enjoyable, bottom line. Find out what a fraternity you like does and feel the people out, if you don't like it don't do it, simple as that. College is a growing experience and it's about finding yourself and learning new things. You don't need a fraternity to do that. But do whatever you want
I'm honestly glad to see that you're not the person I assumed you were from your initial post. And I hope you see that frat guys aren't the initial people you thought they were when you posted. There are people that like the same things you do, who listen to the same music you do, and who don't do "brotastic" things like the people you see. I really respect that you came out and changed your opinion, and I apologize for coming at you like I did. I think that fraternities get a reputation that is incredibly unjustified and it's unfortunate. There are a lot of fraternities that support your original thoughts, but the reality is that I would never have gotten into tutoring less-fortunate kids, or raising money to build homeless shelters if it weren't for the fraternity I was in. So while many people may view fraternities as places that pimp alcohol and woman, my fraternity not only gave me a social outlet, but also helped me realize how involved in the community I could be. I hope that this post sheds some light onto the less discussed side of fraternities.

[And Hours Pass]

frats are dumb, youll have MORE FUN not being in one
I don't want to expend too much time actually formulating a coherent response to your idiocy, so I'll just stick with - you're a moron who doesn't seem to learn from the idiotic mishaps of his fellow posters who were destroyed earlier in this thread. I would write many more offensive and hurtful things, but you're not worth my time. I flat out don't like you though... in case there was any misconception about that...

[LoginBanned]

So you don't want hot titties in your face?

[cory-182]

Frats = paying for your friends.

While you will enjoy date raping drunk chicks, non-frat guys will hate you.

[jwicklun]

Frats = paying for your friends.

While you will enjoy date raping drunk chicks, non-frat guys will hate you.
wow! man you totally understand what greek life is all about!





douche

[Broclee]

Frats = paying for your friends.

While you will enjoy date raping drunk chicks, non-frat guys will hate you.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/ach.jpg

Thanks for your incredibly idiotic contribution to the discussion.

[bung]

I don't get frats. It's like reinstating the whole idea of some little club like when we used to make forts in our backyards and make wooden swords to go around and fight goblins.

[ninthandash]

I go to a small private college as well, and I'm in a housing group, which is essentially a fraternity without the hazing, rules, and general tool-ship.

[You Won't Know]

Ah, that clears things up wonderfully. I would hope I'm not a douchebag. I appreciate the clarification.

If you join a fraternity just to party harder, that's stupid. There's lots of parties to go to, and you don't need to be in a fraternity to do that. Sure, some of the parties may be a little better but honestly that's a terrible reason to do it. This coming from someone who very much enjoys alcohol. Hell, you can get off-campus housing after your first year (at most schools) and host those parties yourself if it's so necessary.

But if you give it a fair chance, really get to know the people and do it for the right reasons, I recommend. I have so many great memories and different connections, as well as leadership experience because I got involved in other on-campus groups and my own fraternity, including some Greek councils. I also became much more comfortable in social situations, which has helped me now that I am graduated and helped me in job interviews, finding an internship, etc. I also personally headed up two charity events that raised close to $4000 that ended up helping out cancer victims we knew personally. That was seriously one of the most rewarding experiences in my life.

But again, it's all in the people you're with. I joined a fraternity made up of guys who were pretty open minded, liked to drink beers, and many of them had a similar 'small town high school' background to me - which meant they had a similar value system as I did. And there were about 7-8 guys who had AWESOME taste in music. At the end of our parties, we would listen to Taking Back Sunday, the Used, The Academy Is..., Coheed and Cambria, Brand New (keep in mind this was circa 2005/2006). They also turned me on to more obscure bands like The Receiving Ends of Sirens, and many of us would roll to shows at the Grog Shop together.

On the other hand, if you join a fraternity that doesn't do anything with the community, or just wants to party, don't do it. It's a great idea to have fun, but you obviously want to finish school and do well. Don't let a 'stoner fraternity' (and they do exist) bring you down. If it's genuine, go for it. If there's something wrong, for example hard drugs at the parties, or if the expectations for pledging are any kind of physical hazing, don't do it.

Use your judgement wisely and don't rush into a decision. Good luck...

[Un'Aria Ancora]

If you feel the need to buy friends that's your call. I've loved college without doing so.

[spansen]

i'm not reading all of this. the correct answer to your question, though, is "no."

[Broclee]

If you feel the need to buy friends that's your call. I've loved college without doing so.
"Buying friends" is such a misconception. Ugh.

[kbi the crowing]

Fucking awesome. Alright, thanks everyone. To be honest, if you guys would've said yes, I still wouldn't of joined.

:-|

[cirerelleum]

At my school, and many others, fraternities are for people who either

A) never had the brotherhood experience from having a tight family or sports team

B) need to be apart of some fruity club to get girls and alcohol

[NeededYouMost]

I just moved into my dorm on Wednesday, and I've been going to all the events they have going on. Today was the 'Fraternity Barbecue!' ordeal, and so I figured I would go, even though I've never been into the whole fraternity ordeal. The first thing that the first frat guy at the first booth says is "Fucking women and hot titties in your face!" Appealing, right? So if I end up not joining a frat, will that ruin my college experience?

P.S. I'm not at a huge state college. I'm at Embry Riddle in Daytona Beach. A private university.
the smaller the school the harder it is to enjoy it. For instance, if you have a class of 22 people. 11 of them are girls. Out of the 11 girls, 4 are in sororities. Out of those 4, 3 are DTF. The 7 not in sororities are probably ugly, too emo, or simply too ugly and couldn't get into a sorority.
I'm not a frat guy because i went to a huge school. But I know my friends who went to small schools had to RUSH because it was lame without it. Frat guys suck, but fake it, and use it to get laid. Once you're in, you'll make all the hookups for girls that you'll need. Stop participating in your frat after the first year.
Frats at my undergrad are hardcore druggies. Don't get pulled into that shit man. use them for the fun, laugh at them when you're done.

[Car Crash Dream]

the smaller the school the harder it is to enjoy it. For instance, if you have a class of 22 people. 11 of them are girls. Out of the 11 girls, 4 are in sororities. Out of those 4, 3 are DTF. The 7 not in sororities are probably ugly, too emo, or simply too ugly and couldn't get into a sorority.
I'm not a frat guy because i went to a huge school. But I know my friends who went to small schools had to RUSH because it was lame without it. Frat guys suck, but fake it, and use it to get laid. Once you're in, you'll make all the hookups for girls that you'll need. Stop participating in your frat after the first year.
Frats at my undergrad are hardcore druggies. Don't get pulled into that shit man. use them for the fun, laugh at them when you're done.

Why the fuck would I fake being a drunk douchebag to get some fucking gross drunk girl? I don't give a shit about getting laid, or finding some girl I can fuck around with. If I am going to join a Fraternity it will be for the friendships and business connections.

[Jake Denning]

I want to make a sorority with girls that enjoy SPORTS.

Yeah, I read that last Yank win and I was like ooooooooooh dang.

[Miss Heartcore]

There are terrible misconceptions about greek life in this thread.

[poppa Q]

No, fuck them all.

Beer Pong, Bongs and Bitches can all be achieved else where, don't let them fool you.
Fact.
Im from a really big college and the frat experience here is completely different than a small college, however... one of my best friends went to a small college and joined a frat and loved it. I think if you join a frat, make sure its one with some good guys that you get to know. If their frat house is also really small that means you might not be forced to live there which is really nice. You can just use it as networking tool. If you do not join, it won't kill your social life tho so dont worry.
U of I?
I would rush if you want the best feel for whether you'd like it or not. You don't have to actually join any frats or anything, but if you rush at least you'll get a good feel for what each frat is about and you'll be less likely to join a shitty stoner frat or miss out on a bunch of people that could be good friends.

Honestly, you'll probably have fun either way. Just don't let yourself think it's a make-or-break decision for your college career, because it's not, no matter what anyone says.
Bradley?

[You Won't Know]

There are terrible misconceptions about greek life in this thread.

Seriously. I'm glad I graduated so I don't have to deal with people lumping me into something I'm not. I personally was proud of being a part of my fraternity, but a lot of people just made the wrong assumptions of what it's all about.

And obviously it would happen here on ap.net.

[jwicklun]

At my school, and many others, fraternities are for people who either

A) never had the brotherhood experience from having a tight family or sports team

B) need to be apart of some fruity club to get girls and alcohol
I think A) is what best describes my experience so far. Most of my best friends in high school were the ones I ran with on the cross country team, and greek life is just like that experience. You will make many friends in college, but I found my best friends are in my fraternity.

[Broclee]

Frat guys suck, but fake it, and use it to get laid. Once you're in, you'll make all the hookups for girls that you'll need. Stop participating in your frat after the first year.
Frats at my undergrad are hardcore druggies. Don't get pulled into that shit man. use them for the fun, laugh at them when you're done.

What. The. Fuck.

Could you be any more off-base?

[iheartmusic043]

I've never been into partying, I actually don't even drink. I've always found the concept kind of ridiculous and socially excluding.

EDIT: The concept of frats, not drinking.

Also considering that I'm spending almost thirty five thousand dollars each year, I don't feel like wasting it on getting smashed.
I agree. Thst's why I won't join a sorority when I start college next year. I think they're stupid because the people who are normally in frats or sororities are like the "popular' people in high school, or at least the people who think they're "popular", like at my school. If I wanted four more years of high school, I just would've failed already.

Plus, I hate girls so the idea of a sorority is like a nightmate to me.

[MarsEatWorld]

Yeah, I read that last Yank win and I was like ooooooooooh dang.
Did you read yesterday's score? Because we pwnd them extra hard.

[Jake Denning]

Did you read yesterday's score? Because we pwnd them extra hard.

Oh good; I was at Gig Life last night, plus my G1 was on its period or something, so it didnt want to respond to much.

[MarsEatWorld]

Oh good; I was at Gig Life last night, plus my G1 was on its period or something, so it didnt want to respond to much.
14 to 1
and we are currently tied 2-2

[NeededYouMost]

What. The. Fuck.

Could you be any more off-base?
ok...

[NeededYouMost]

Why the fuck would I fake being a drunk douchebag to get some fucking gross drunk girl? I don't give a shit about getting laid, or finding some girl I can fuck around with. If I am going to join a Fraternity it will be for the friendships and business connections.
well i'm about to offend the hell outa you.
Joining a frat at a school like yours for hopes of having future connections is retarded. Those people are not going to amount to anything. So unless you want them to give you hookups such as coupons for Pizza Hut or something, don't waste your time. Now if you went to Yale and joined a secret society then of course, you'll get mad hookups. But unless you're going to a decent top 15 school, no! Frats are all about getting laid and blowing your load on girls faces.

[Bingham88]

frats are just an excuse for drunk morons to band together talk about Throwball (american football), try to "get pussy" from girls who dont want to give it, and bully and harass pledges and people they see as inferior.

granted thats not all frat boys, but most of the ones ive come into contact with.

[Aphasia17]

No, fuck them all.

Beer Pong, Bongs and Bitches can all be achieved else where, don't let them fool you.

where I go to school (Illinois State) they can be achieved ANYwhere!

[KidRobot]

Won't prevent you at all.

[I am Mick]

going to a community college is pretty much the only way to not enjoy college. fuck my life

[KidRobot]

going to a community college is pretty much the only way to not enjoy college. fuck my life

Commuting to a school with 80% guys isn't exactly riveting.

[I am Mick]

Commuting to a school with 80% guys isn't exactly riveting.

Eh, I commute to a school with stupid gangstas, pregnant 19 year olds and moms who have to ask me how to log onto a computer.

[KidRobot]

Eh, I commute to a school with stupid gangstas, pregnant 19 year olds and moms who have to ask me how to log onto a computer.

Well after 2 years you're gonna go to whatever school you want with alot more money than most kids through 2 years of school.

[iheartmusic043]

Eh, I commute to a school with stupid gangstas, pregnant 19 year olds and moms who have to ask me how to log onto a computer.
Do you go to CCAC because that would explain it. So many people from my school go there lol.

[rollerman4221]

well i'm about to offend the hell outa you.
Joining a frat at a school like yours for hopes of having future connections is retarded. Those people are not going to amount to anything. So unless you want them to give you hookups such as coupons for Pizza Hut or something, don't waste your time. Now if you went to Yale and joined a secret society then of course, you'll get mad hookups. But unless you're going to a decent top 15 school, no! Frats are all about getting laid and blowing your load on girls faces.

where do you go to school at?

[Broclee]

ok...

well i'm about to offend the hell outa you.
Joining a frat at a school like yours for hopes of having future connections is retarded. Those people are not going to amount to anything. So unless you want them to give you hookups such as coupons for Pizza Hut or something, don't waste your time. Now if you went to Yale and joined a secret society then of course, you'll get mad hookups. But unless you're going to a decent top 15 school, no! Frats are all about getting laid and blowing your load on girls faces.

Holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck.

How much experience/knowledge do you actually have with various fraternities?

[phil19]

well i'm about to offend the hell outa you.
Joining a frat at a school like yours for hopes of having future connections is retarded. Those people are not going to amount to anything. So unless you want them to give you hookups such as coupons for Pizza Hut or something, don't waste your time. Now if you went to Yale and joined a secret society then of course, you'll get mad hookups. But unless you're going to a decent top 15 school, no! Frats are all about getting laid and blowing your load on girls faces.

and this is bad because?????

[behappy123]

We don't have the same college culture here. It's really such a quintessential experience you guys have in the states in regards to going off to college.

[I am Mick]

Do you go to CCAC because that would explain it. So many people from my school go there lol.

haha yup. Do good in school and go away to a real college.

[Car Crash Dream]

well i'm about to offend the hell outa you.
Joining a frat at a school like yours for hopes of having future connections is retarded. Those people are not going to amount to anything. So unless you want them to give you hookups such as coupons for Pizza Hut or something, don't waste your time. Now if you went to Yale and joined a secret society then of course, you'll get mad hookups. But unless you're going to a decent top 15 school, no! Frats are all about getting laid and blowing your load on girls faces.

Do you even know what Embry Riddle is?

[spunkmastaflex]

U of I?


Yep, we have one of the biggest greek systems in the USA. So the whole greek system here is gonna be different. I didnt go greek and I think college was a great experience.

[iheartmusic043]

haha yup. Do good in school and go away to a real college.
I'm probably going to either Carlow, Pitt, or Duquesne, but more than likely Carlow. I would go away for college if I wasn't interested in medical research because Pittsburgh has some of the best research facilities in the country 15 minutes away.

[NeededYouMost]

Holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck.

How much experience/knowledge do you actually have with various fraternities?
Various frats? There's only so many frats and just different chapters of that frats across the nation. If you don't even know that, then i'm wasting my time.

[NeededYouMost]

Do you even know what Embry Riddle is?
it's a specialized university...what are you getting at?

[Car Crash Dream]

it's a specialized university...what are you getting at?

It is the number ONE aerospace engineering school for 10 years running. Every single person I have spoken to from fraternities have told me they have received numerous internships purely from being in the same fraternities as people from different companies.

[NeededYouMost]

It is the number ONE aerospace engineering school for 10 years running. Every single person I have spoken to from fraternities have told me they have received numerous internships purely from being in the same fraternities as people from different companies.
so then join a frat. I really don't know what you're getting at.
and if you're bragging about you're school being the number one aerospace engineering school, you shouldn't. That only matters to your small demographic.

[nonamesleft]

Frat's are good to join if you're at a school that's away from your home because you don't know very many people. It's a good way to meet new people and make some friends, HOWEVER, if you're living on the campus then you'll already meet tons of people, trust me. I don't think it's that necessary, really.

[AndrewIcex]

Oh yeah, that's what frats do. They fool you into thinking that their purpose is to harbor the precious aforementioned commodities. You should hang with the superstar quoted right below this.

Well sir, when I went to check out the frats at my old college (NKU) and the same for my current college(UK)... and I was just at the "frat fair" basically is what you could call it.. half of the guys said join mine and you can get all of those things, the three B's as they called it.. so.. I go off of what I personally saw, therefore my opinion and judgment is based upon that, it made me avoid frats.

So hanging with that "superstar" or whatever sounds alright, but all I know is there may be good and awesome frats out there.. but I have yet to see one... I understand the connections and networking that comes apart of it. But I am a pretty outgoing guy and have decent connections so far, so I feel that you don't need a frat to have them. (sorry if it is a bit off topic, it came to mind as I typed.)

Fact.

U of I?

Bradley?
Thank you.
where I go to school (Illinois State) they can be achieved ANYwhere!
NKU and UK are the college's that I have attended and all of those things are definitely everywhere.

[Broclee]

Various frats? There's only so many frats and just different chapters of that frats across the nation. If you don't even know that, then i'm wasting my time.

I'm in a fraternity, I know that there are various chapters of each fraternity, but there are still many many different fraternities, and lot of them are specialized. There are fraternities that are for certain majors, or certain common factors, other than just "getting fucked up" or what have you. There are social fraternities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_fraternities_and_sor orities), but there are also professional fraternities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_fraternities) and service fraternities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_fraternities_and_sororities ). If you don't even know that, then I'm wasting my time. Not every fraternity is the wicked place you're trying to paint them all as.

You seem to be very ill-informed about this, but keep going with the condescending douche act, it's really making your argument stronger.

[NeededYouMost]

I'm in a fraternity, I know that there are various chapters of each fraternity, but there are still many many different fraternities, and lot of them are specialized. There are fraternities that are for certain majors, or certain common factors, other than just "getting fucked up" or what have you. There are social fraternities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_fraternities_and_sor orities), but there are also professional fraternities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_fraternities) and service fraternities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_fraternities_and_sororities ). If you don't even know that, then I'm wasting my time. Not every fraternity is the wicked place you're trying to paint them all as.

You seem to be very ill-informed about this, but keep going with the condescending douche act, it's really making your argument stronger.
It's more of an elitist douche act.

[Broclee]

It's more of an elitist douche act.
Either way, it's not working for you.

[Car Crash Dream]

so then join a frat. I really don't know what you're getting at.
and if you're bragging about you're school being the number one aerospace engineering school, you shouldn't. That only matters to your small demographic.

I was stating that because it is a huge AERONAUTICAL school. It is literally ONLY aeronautical degrees excluding human factors and civil engineering, which still have a small base involving aeronautical subjects. I am saying this because this is not a school with degrees varying wildly, so the demographic here are all based upon aeronautical subjects, which causes all of the frats at this school to be 100% aeronautical, which is where the business connections come from.

Honestly, just nevermind. All of your posts have been some of the most worthless in this thread. There are other much, much more helpful ones.

[iAMhollyood315]

my good friend went to embry riddle in daytona beach and joined a frat. he had a blast. did a lot of cool stuff down there. but its not nessesary for having a good time. theres so much to do down there you will have a great time if you get in with a genuine group of friends

[iAMhollyood315]

It is the number ONE aerospace engineering school for 10 years running. Every single person I have spoken to from fraternities have told me they have received numerous internships purely from being in the same fraternities as people from different companies.

it ALWAYS helps to have connections. being in the same frat can open that up to you. on another note. depending on what your going for, its very hard to get your commerical license and find a job. my buddy just graduated there and does not have a job yet for air traffic control. he has been waiting for his class date at OKC and then he goes to Miami tower. my other buddy who graduated there flew through the system and was working at Syracuse tower by october of last year. But yeah its a great school. just make sure you pick an in demand area and with

[And Hours Pass]

Well sir, when I went to check out the frats at my old college (NKU) and the same for my current college(UK)... and I was just at the "frat fair" basically is what you could call it.. half of the guys said join mine and you can get all of those things, the three B's as they called it.. so.. I go off of what I personally saw, therefore my opinion and judgment is based upon that, it made me avoid frats.

So hanging with that "superstar" or whatever sounds alright, but all I know is there may be good and awesome frats out there.. but I have yet to see one... I understand the connections and networking that comes apart of it. But I am a pretty outgoing guy and have decent connections so far, so I feel that you don't need a frat to have them. (sorry if it is a bit off topic, it came to mind as I typed.)


So you based your opinion on one encounter? I'm sorry, but I think that even you can admit that your experience is far from close to something that could justify the blanket statement you made. I'm sorry your interactions with fraternities weren't rewarding, but it's not fair of you to say that all frats are pimping those things because you ran into some that did. There are always bad eggs in anything, including greek life. I hope that you've seen in this thread that there are a variety of people serving as examples that all frats don't operate on the platform you discussed.

[Car Crash Dream]

it ALWAYS helps to have connections. being in the same frat can open that up to you. on another note. depending on what your going for, its very hard to get your commerical license and find a job. my buddy just graduated there and does not have a job yet for air traffic control. he has been waiting for his class date at OKC and then he goes to Miami tower. my other buddy who graduated there flew through the system and was working at Syracuse tower by october of last year. But yeah its a great school. just make sure you pick an in demand area and with

Right now I am working on Aerospace Engineering, but I am considering switching to Engineering Physics or Space Physics. I really want to see how well I like the Engineering side of things. If I don't, then I'm going Space Physics, if I like it, but still want the Physics side, then I will be going Engineering Physics. If I can't get enough of it, then I am sticking with Aerospace Engineering.

[anamericangod]

my good friend went to embry riddle in daytona beach and joined a frat. he had a blast. did a lot of cool stuff down there. but its not nessesary for having a good time. theres so much to do down there you will have a great time if you get in with a genuine group of friends

Go Bills!

[NeededYouMost]

I was stating that because it is a huge AERONAUTICAL school. It is literally ONLY aeronautical degrees excluding human factors and civil engineering, which still have a small base involving aeronautical subjects. I am saying this because this is not a school with degrees varying wildly, so the demographic here are all based upon aeronautical subjects, which causes all of the frats at this school to be 100% aeronautical, which is where the business connections come from.

Honestly, just nevermind. All of your posts have been some of the most worthless in this thread. There are other much, much more helpful ones.
Hey kid, don't cry to me about your school being number one in aerospace engineering. Nobody has heard of it.(MIT, Georgia Tech) I'm not dogging on your school, just you. I gave you my two cents and you keep coming back crying. Stop your crying with your arguments on my opinion. To be young.

[Car Crash Dream]

Hey kid, don't cry to me about your school being number one in aerospace engineering. Nobody has heard of it.(MIT, Georgia Tech) I'm not dogging on your school, just you. I gave you my two cents and you keep coming back crying. Stop your crying with your arguments on my opinion. To be young.

You really are poor at understanding simple things. Also, just for the heck of it: http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews. com/best-colleges/spec-aero

Stop trying to force your opinion on things you don't have experience with.

[NeededYouMost]

You really are poor at understanding simple things. Also, just for the heck of it: http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews. com/best-colleges/spec-aero

Stop trying to force your opinion on things you don't have experience with.
lol and you continue to gloat about your school being number 1 in it's respective field... You ascended balls prepubescent speaking child. I can't talk to 18 year-olds.

[Car Crash Dream]

lol and you continue to gloat about your school being number 1 in it's respective field... You ascended balls prepubescent speaking child. I can't talk to 18 year-olds.

Well, considering in the first place I wasn't trying to gloat. I was explaining why I was speaking of business connections with Fraternities, which you didn't believe in, and you didn't understand that. Then you said that no one had heard of my school, when you aren't even involved in the field, so I showed you what I was speaking of.

[NeededYouMost]

Well, considering in the first place I wasn't trying to gloat. I was explaining why I was speaking of business connections with Fraternities, which you didn't believe in, and you didn't understand that. Then you said that no one had heard of my school, when you aren't even involved in the field, so I showed you what I was speaking of.
i'll reply to this one last post.
I told you frats are useless for business connections unless you go to a top 15. You didn't agree. What's the problem there? I gave you my opinion.
"Then you said that no one had heard of my school" Yeah, i've never heard of it, sorry, didn't mean to offend you. I only know what I see and read. Never saw or read about your school. Then again, I don't read books about planes and shit.
I don't doubt it's a good school though so chill.

[iAMhollyood315]

Go Bills!

:drew: pittsburg saturday baby. hoping for a good game. you prolly don't get to watch the bills as much down in GA do ya? must get the Falcons as priority.

[anamericangod]

:drew: pittsburg saturday baby. hoping for a good game. you prolly don't get to watch the bills as much down in GA do ya? must get the Falcons as priority.

That's what NFL Sunday Ticket with DirecTV is for. Get to watch them every week.

[AndrewIcex]

So you based your opinion on one encounter? I'm sorry, but I think that even you can admit that your experience is far from close to something that could justify the blanket statement you made. I'm sorry your interactions with fraternities weren't rewarding, but it's not fair of you to say that all frats are pimping those things because you ran into some that did. There are always bad eggs in anything, including greek life. I hope that you've seen in this thread that there are a variety of people serving as examples that all frats don't operate on the platform you discussed.
Re-read my statement that you replied to for this.. the second part I mean, it said there may be awesome ones out there... but I personally have not seen one... just cause I have not seen it, does not mean it does not exist, I just have no solid proof, yet.

[kwsqd]

well i'm about to offend the hell outa you.
Joining a frat at a school like yours for hopes of having future connections is retarded. Those people are not going to amount to anything. So unless you want them to give you hookups such as coupons for Pizza Hut or something, don't waste your time. Now if you went to Yale and joined a secret society then of course, you'll get mad hookups. But unless you're going to a decent top 15 school, no! Frats are all about getting laid and blowing your load on girls faces.
This is some of the dumbest shit I've read in a long, long fucking time. Congratulations on revealing your ignorance and making yourself out to be a huge jackass.

Hey kid, don't cry to me about your school being number one in aerospace engineering. Nobody has heard of it.(MIT, Georgia Tech) I'm not dogging on your school, just you. I gave you my two cents and you keep coming back crying. Stop your crying with your arguments on my opinion. To be young.
Everyone in the aerospace field has heard of it, it's considered better than the Air Force Academy. Just because you're clueless doesn't mean everyone else is.

i'll reply to this one last post.
I told you frats are useless for business connections unless you go to a top 15. You didn't agree. What's the problem there? I gave you my opinion.
"Then you said that no one had heard of my school" Yeah, i've never heard of it, sorry, didn't mean to offend you. I only know what I see and read. Never saw or read about your school. Then again, I don't read books about planes and shit.
I don't doubt it's a good school though so chill.
Your opinion is terribly incorrect.

[Car Crash Dream]

This is some of the dumbest shit I've read in a long, long fucking time. Congratulations on revealing your ignorance and making yourself out to be a huge jackass.


Everyone in the aerospace field has heard of it, it's considered better than the Air Force Academy. Just because you're clueless doesn't mean everyone else is.


Your opinion is terribly incorrect.

It isn't worth it.

[kwsqd]

It isn't worth it.
Yeah it is.
So how do you like erby diddle?

[Car Crash Dream]

Yeah it is.
So how do you like erby diddle?

I'm loving it. People need to stop being so shy though.

[NeededYouMost]

This is some of the dumbest shit I've read in a long, long fucking time. Congratulations on revealing your ignorance and making yourself out to be a huge jackass.

Everyone in the aerospace field has heard of it, it's considered better than the Air Force Academy. Just because you're clueless doesn't mean everyone else is.


Your opinion is terribly incorrect.
You're stupid. I'm not in the aerospace field so how does it make me clueless. You basically state only those in the field know that school.
And here's one for you. Your opinion is terribly incorrect.

[And Hours Pass]

Re-read my statement that you replied to for this.. the second part I mean, it said there may be awesome ones out there... but I personally have not seen one... just cause I have not seen it, does not mean it does not exist, I just have no solid proof, yet.
I saw that, I'm just saying your initial statement was a straight blanket statement. That was all I was getting at. And there are people in this thread that should start serving as proof that not all fraternity members are focused on those ideals.

[Tim Lincecum]

I don't want to expend too much time actually formulating a coherent response to your idiocy, so I'll just stick with - you're a moron who doesn't seem to learn from the idiotic mishaps of his fellow posters who were destroyed earlier in this thread. I would write many more offensive and hurtful things, but you're not worth my time. I flat out don't like you though... in case there was any misconception about that...

good thing you didn't i wouldnt have seen it til now since i never went back to the thread...

[whoaisame]

My friend told me horror stories about initiations into his frat (which he never made it through). I wouldn't, but thats me personally. College is more fun without that bs.

[<*)))><]

I didn't get the chance to rush but I really enjoyed all of the people who I meet during the process and wouldn't trade the experience for anything.

[davehennessy]

You can have plenty of fun and meet tons of people without being in a frat. Never been a part of one myself, I would imagine it'd be a good time, but there are tons of opportunities to get out and do things without a frat

[Broclee]

I know I've said this before, but since the thread's been revived, I'll say it again:

If you have any sort of interest whatsoever, check it out, find out what they're about, meet the people, etc. Find out things about your campus' chapter. Then think about it. If you still really have any major doubts, then don't. Being in a fraternity is a whole separate college experience that works for some people and not for others. If it's not for you, you're not going to be "missing" anything, you'll have your own college experience that will be awesome.

[Wake Up]

Just don't haze me brooooo!

[zachff]

Everyone I know that went to Embry Riddle sucks. Try to break the mold

[<*)))><]

I know I've said this before, but since the thread's been revived, I'll say it again:

If you have any sort of interest whatsoever, check it out, find out what they're about, meet the people, etc. Find out things about your campus' chapter. Then think about it. If you really have any major doubts, then don't. Being in a fraternity is a whole separate college experience that works for some people and not for others. If it's not for you, you're not going to be "missing" anything, you'll have your own college experience that will be awesome.
I kind of have to disagree a little because I originally didn't want to join any frats but once I started hanging out with the brothers, I loved it.

[Broclee]

I kind of have to disagree a little because I originally didn't want to join any frats but once I started hanging out with the brothers, I loved it.
Isn't that exactly what I said?
:-|

EDIT: There's a missing, "then" or "still" that I should've put in there. Definitely changes my message.

[<*)))><]

Isn't that exactly what I said?
:-|

EDIT: There's a missing, "then" or "still" that I should've put in there. Definitely changes my message.
All good.

[overdrive91]

I don't think the UK has frats and stuff, but frats look pretty fun and parties look pretty sweet from what I've seen in my friends pictures.

[Schmidty Says]

I refused to join a frat, I wasn't going to pay for people to be my friend. I had no problems making friends and they've stuck with me from the beginning.

[anamericangod]

I refused to join a frat, I wasn't going to pay for people to be my friend. I had no problems making friends and they've stuck with me from the beginning.

Cool man!

[Broclee]

I refused to join a frat, I wasn't going to pay for people to be my friend. I had no problems making friends and they've stuck with me from the beginning.
Oh yeah man, you've got the Greek system all figured out.

[Spewk]

Joining a Frat may prevent you from enjoying college.

[Broclee]

Joining a Frat may prevent you from enjoying college.
That's a terrible outlook to have. Especially for someone who's probably still in high school.

[Spewk]

That's a terrible outlook to have. Especially for someone who's probably still in high school.
I am in high school, but I don't know. I have two brothers in college, one in a frat and one not. The one not in a frat is pretty much my best friend and we hang out all the time when he's home. The other one has changed a lot in college and I can honestly say I hate him now. It might not have anything to do with the frat, but it definitely could.

[Broclee]

I am in high school, but I don't know. I have two brothers in college, one in a frat and one not. The one not in a frat is pretty much my best friend and we hang out all the time when he's home. The other one has changed a lot in college and I can honestly say I hate him now. It might not have anything to do with the frat, but it definitely could.
I can see how that might jade your view, and it might have everything to do with the frat, but not all frats are the same. The one that I'm in is very professional, a dry frat (no alcohol at official events), and I definitely see a lot more good than bad. I know those aren't the "norm," but there are more than you'd think like that.

Again, I feel for you on the brother situation, and sorry for seeming dickish.

[Spewk]

I can see how that might jade your view, and it might have everything to do with the frat, but not all frats are the same. The one that I'm in is very professional, a dry frat (no alcohol at official events), and I definitely see a lot more good than bad. I know those aren't the "norm," but there are more than you'd think like that.

Again, I feel for you on the brother situation, and sorry for seeming dickish.
I imagine a dry frat would entirely change things and immensely tone down the number of assholes. I've never heard of anything like that before, but it sounds like a really good idea.