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kearn1tm
08/26/09, 11:12 AM
Hey Todd. Great name. Your eloquent, but empty verbiage is almost unbearable to read. We are in an internet forum site, you are not composing a speech for the House of Representatives, so chill out. I am a writer for 2 newspapers in Philly and have written over 21 epilogues for writers across the Northeastern Seaboard. I know when to write intelligently and when to write sensibly. If you come off as an elitist you lose readers and gain enemies.

I am not in love with say anything, but your accusations are horribly wrong. If you have ever heard anything off of Say Anything's In Defense of The Genre I really think you would have a different opinion. Max Bemis is no joke, he is the real deal. Alive With The Glory of Love is poppy and it is a catchy song, but many of his other songs are much deeper, please give a chance. And I've noticed you have stalked my profile, naming some of my bands that i enjoy. To fill you in... my Dad was a stage coordinator during many reunion tours and of course seeing those guys every couple of years and getting to know them would make them my favorite bands, because their my favorite people as well. (I have never met any of The Beatles)

Just by your superiority complex and the fact that your Gay and that you have posted on this site over 3,000 times (holy shit get off this thing) that you are one of those kids that thinks their muscial tastes are far more obcure than anoyone elses. Do you even enjoy the music you listen to? Or do you listen to it because of its unpopularity?

I have 5 years on you and probably have listened to more records than you ever will. I dont fill out my AP.net profile to the max to please you. I dont think its neccesary.

When or if you do you reply don't talk to me like your 20 years older. Lets keep it real.

EpilogueJohn]

Firstly, John, who are you? (That's rhetorical, John. I don't care).

Secondly, John, you continually list credentials as if that lends validity to your opinions and it comes across as though you're positioning yourself above me.

Thirdly, John, I write for a campus paper, a Michigan paper, and have been published twice. Wag your manhood, I'll wag back. Do my ideas count now?

Fourthly, John, never private message me about displeasure you've had while reading a discussion on an artist I find devoid of substance unless you feel as if I've personally slighted you to an extreme degree. Argue in the thread.

Fifthly, John, you have five years on me. Congrats. So does my roommate. I wonder if she's listened to more albums than me. I wonder if that's relevant at all to anything ever.

Sixthly, John, why did you bring up my sexuality? How is that at all pertinent to my dislike of Max Bemis or what you perceived as me talking down to you? Frankly, it comes across as more than a little homophobic.

Oh, and John? My Dad? I don't know him, but my Mom was a huge groupie in the late '80s and nailed many a-Hair Metal asshole, so my dad's probably a member of Jackyl. My theoretical Dad > Your Dad. Oh yeah. That's a 'y' in Jackyl.

One more thing John. How did I "stalk you?" You do understand that clicking on someone's profile takes merely a second or two (or more, depending on which kind of internet you're using), correct? I clicked on your profile and learned which artists you enjoy, as it put your taste in music into a certain context, which was important in relating to you when talking about whatever it was we were talking about. "Stalk?" I must be the least committed, laziest stalker in the history of stalkamania.

EDIT - Why make this a publicly seen thread, you may ask. You see, John, I don't like you. I don't like that you're so inflamed about a back-and-forth exchange about Max Bemis on AP and my choice in vernacular that you sent me such an excessively long post about how awesome you are and how your opinions on a shit artist are superior to mine because [insert your accomplishments] while berating me for conveying an affected sense of that same elitism you bitch about. The place for this was in that thread. Not a lame tirade in my PM box.

Matt Chylak
08/26/09, 11:16 AM
the real question is why you had to post this. your personal shit aside, just send him a reply PM. its like you're trying to prove you're smarter/better than this guy

shit stroll
08/26/09, 11:17 AM
X-)

what a tool.

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 11:19 AM
the real question is why you had to post this. your personal shit aside, just send him a reply PM. its like you're trying to prove you're smarter/better than this guy

I'm not smarter or better. I merely disagree with why he finds Bemis "good." I told him why on this board. That's where it should have stayed. I suspect this will be closed soon. Here's an open message to anyone annoyed with something I posted about an artist; keep it in the thread about that artist and don't flood me with PMs about how you're awesome and those "who are you to have an opinion on Max Bemis?" comments.

Jefferson Rank
08/26/09, 11:19 AM
Well this is fun.

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 11:20 AM
X-)

what a tool.

I'm not contesting that. I wear argyle.

Matt Chylak
08/26/09, 11:20 AM
I'm not smarter or better. I merely disagree with why he finds Bemis "good." I told him why on this board. That's where it should have stayed. I suspect this will be closed soon. Here's an open message to anyone annoyed with something I posted about an artist; keep it in the thread about that artist and don't flood me with PMs about how you're awesome and those "who are you to have an opinion on Max Bemis?" comments.

read the bold for my response

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 11:21 AM
Well this is fun.

You should have PMed me this.

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 11:22 AM
read the bold for my response

That's lazy, Matt.

Then again, Matt, you clearly knew what type of thread this was going to be when you clicked on it. My question to you: why click on it if you were well aware that it was merely the sharing of a PM I received, despite feeling it has no place on this board?

Jefferson Rank
08/26/09, 11:24 AM
You should have PMed me this.

Why? It's not an attack, and that's what PMs are for.

:-|

Matt Chylak
08/26/09, 11:27 AM
That's lazy, Matt.

Then again, Matt, you clearly knew what type of thread this was going to be when you clicked on it. My question to you: why click on it if you were well aware that it was merely the sharing of a PM I received, despite feeling it has no place on this board?

you said (it's music related...promise), so i couldn't resist. curiosity and all that
you lied

oddwithoutend
08/26/09, 11:28 AM
This thread is very pedestrian, Todd.

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 11:28 AM
Why? It's not an attack, and that's what PMs are for.

:-|

Jokes are fun.

you said (it's music related...promise), so i couldn't resist. curiosity and all that
you lied

I didn't. I talked about music. I never claimed the ratio of music-to-annoyed rambling, did I?

wewascontenders
08/26/09, 11:28 AM
i wanna know what papers he writes for.

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 11:28 AM
This thread is very pedestrian, Todd.

Overrated! Toot!

chipdip18
08/26/09, 11:29 AM
I support Todd.

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 11:29 AM
i wanna know what papers he writes for.

Him? Philly papers. Non-pretentious Philly papers.

Me? The Morning Sun and Central Michigan Life.

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 11:31 AM
I support Todd.

I don't accept your support.

/Elitism

chipdip18
08/26/09, 11:32 AM
I don't accept your support.

/Elitism

I don't care if you accept my support or not. It's still there.

/Unwavering support.

Jefferson Rank
08/26/09, 11:32 AM
Jokes are fun.

I didn't. I talked about music. I never claimed the ratio of music-to-annoyed rambling, did I?

So hard to tell when you can't hear inflections.

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 11:33 AM
I don't care if you accept my support or not. It's still there.

/Unwavering support.

I really like this song.

MuQ0AQ7YWS8

I don't know why I choose your response to post this.

So hard to tell when you can't hear inflections.

You can hear me in your heart, no?

chipdip18
08/26/09, 11:35 AM
I really like this song.

MuQ0AQ7YWS8

I don't know why I choose your response to post this.



Because you knew i would listen to it. You leader indie hipster you. You ringleader!

Jefferson Rank
08/26/09, 11:35 AM
You can hear me in your heart, no?

So THAT'S what that is! That explains so much.

Matt Chylak
08/26/09, 11:36 AM
Jokes are fun.

I didn't. I talked about music. I never claimed the ratio of music-to-annoyed rambling, did I?

*sigh* sort of. alright whatever. maybe i'll see you later in the SA thread

shit stroll
08/26/09, 11:36 AM
I'm not contesting that. I wear argyle.
hey, i was talking about the other guy. argyle rules. ;-)

crimsonandclovr
08/26/09, 12:17 PM
:popcorn:

Plus155
08/26/09, 12:32 PM
Max Bemis is pretty good, this thread, not so much

tommy's ghost
08/26/09, 12:41 PM
I refuse to believe that this child is a writer. That whole message is a grammatical abortion that dragged its emaciated body out of the garbage disposal.

r_r_repeat
08/26/09, 12:57 PM
iPhone's fault.

Please delete that post so I don't look like a simpleton.

If you insist. Lol.

tommy's ghost
08/26/09, 12:59 PM
If you insist. Lol.

Huzzah. My post's scathing wit remains intact.

anthonydarko
08/26/09, 01:13 PM
You should've just responded back with "whatever" and let him stew over his in is pettiness.

anamericangod
08/26/09, 02:32 PM
Bring Back General Forum 2020

Inc.onsolable
08/26/09, 03:22 PM
This was amusing. Haha, even though I didn't read it all. :)

Burn That Shit
08/26/09, 03:35 PM
John got AL'CAPWNED~~~~@~!@!~@!~!~!~!!!!~~~` !~

Mike Kraft
08/26/09, 04:05 PM
Wow. Both claim to be "writers", yet don't know how to proofread.

Until The Bombs
08/26/09, 04:14 PM
Would have expected more from this thread.

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 05:09 PM
Wow. Both claim to be "writers", yet don't know how to proofread.

I know. It's crazy how someone wouldn't check their syntax and spelling for a post on a leisure activity such as an online forum.

Oh, and if you want to structure your sentence properly under most essay structures (MLA, APA, Chicago), place your punctuation inside your quotations. Your comma shouldn't be outside the quotes. You must be a writer too.

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 05:11 PM
From John's PM response:

5. I can see why you have this napoleonic disorder and most likely a more severe mental impediment. A bastard child, son of a whore, and gay. Well, no need to talk to you anymore considering your thoughts and opinions are worthless.


My opinions are worthless in part because I'm gay, in part because my mother was promiscuous in her younger days and in part because I'm not aware of my real father.

John is a homophobe who's not an elitist, yet believes his opinions are superior to those of gays, bastard children and those who's parents had many partners prior to their birth.

behappy123
08/26/09, 05:11 PM
:tied:

Genuma
08/26/09, 05:14 PM
hahaha.

AlternateToLife
08/26/09, 05:40 PM
John sounds like a prick.

Though who am I to judge?

Genuma
08/26/09, 05:42 PM
gives a bad name to Johns everywhere.

TheOtherAndrew
08/26/09, 05:43 PM
I chuckled.

Burn That Shit
08/26/09, 05:43 PM
From John's PM response:



My opinions are worthless in part because I'm gay, in part because my mother was promiscuous in her younger days and in part because I'm not aware of my real father.

John is a homophobe who's not an elitist, yet believes his opinions are superior to those of gays, bastard children and those who's parents had many partners prior to their birth.

Is John flirting with you?

TheOtherAndrew
08/26/09, 05:46 PM
first time ive heard someone call someone else "gay" in a while.
I'm going to assume you live nowhere near a rural or suburban area.

AlternateToLife
08/26/09, 05:47 PM
I'm going to assume you live nowhere near a rural or suburban area.

Truth

behappy123
08/26/09, 05:49 PM
I'm going to assume you live nowhere near a rural or suburban area.

Why rural or suburban?

.invisible ink.
08/26/09, 05:49 PM
i enjoyed reading this, especially the part about your daddy possibly being in Jackyl. I truly hope your mother had better taste in 80s hair metal than to want to fuck guys that like to play guitar with chainsaws.

TheOtherAndrew
08/26/09, 05:52 PM
Why rural or suburban?
Because them folks hate the gays.

behappy123
08/26/09, 05:53 PM
Because them folks hate the gays.
Rural I understand. Suburban, I guess you are right. I get what your saying, because if you go downtown its all young professionals anyways. Wow I never looked at it that way. I mean you won't hear anyone saying something derogatory about gay people where I live.

TheOtherAndrew
08/26/09, 05:55 PM
Rural I understand. Suburban, I guess you are right. I get what your saying, because if yo go downtown its all young professionals anyways. Wow I never looked at it that way. I mean you won't hear anyone saying something derogatory about gay people where I live.
I've never seen a revelation take place over the course of a single post. That ruled.

behappy123
08/26/09, 05:58 PM
I've never seen a revelation take place over the course of a single post. That ruled.

ahah at first it was going to be a quick sentence. Then I thought about it as I was typing and realized the reality. I'm sure your original reply was probably just a quick joke, but it does have some validity if you think about it. Just digging deeper in this time wasting forum lol

BrennanHickson
08/26/09, 05:59 PM
John is a homophobe who's not an elitist, yet believes his opinions are superior to those of gays, bastard children and those who's parents had many partners prior to their birth.
If you're going to criticize others' punctuation errors, learn to correct your own. In this case, it's "whose," not "who's."

GuitarR0cker1
08/26/09, 06:05 PM
I don't get why people send pm's to people they don't know.

kearn1tm
08/26/09, 06:09 PM
If you're going to criticize others' punctuation errors, learn to correct your own. In this case, it's "whose," not "who's."

I wasn't the one who comment on his grammar. Go away.

Genuma
08/26/09, 06:20 PM
suburbia is full of gay bashers.

BrennanHickson
08/26/09, 06:21 PM
I wasn't the one who comment on his grammar. Go away.
I wasn't the one who comment on your grammar. Don't force me go away. :-(

konvalbr
08/26/09, 08:11 PM
no one cares, get a life.

AMackChuck
08/26/09, 08:40 PM
Yeah I liked it better when Patton Oswalt made the joke about Jackyl with a "y".

MyWorldEntire
08/26/09, 08:50 PM
Todd rules

Pudge Halter
08/26/09, 08:59 PM
Thank you for posting this. I'm glad we can all join into more senseless arguing over the internet, where just about everyone is an expert about just about anything.

kearn1tm
08/27/09, 05:33 AM
Yeah I liked it better when Patton Oswalt made the joke about Jackyl with a "y".

Oh, Patton had a bit about one of them being his father, or is he the only one who lays claim to the mention of such a campy band? Don't answer, it's rhetorical.

kearn1tm
08/27/09, 05:49 AM
Thank you for posting this. I'm glad we can all join into more senseless arguing over the internet, where just about everyone is an expert about just about anything.

You knew what this was by the very title of the thread. "Wah." Also, you're contributing to the "senseless arguing" with your inflammatory sarcasm. Kudos.

John is a cult
08/27/09, 06:36 AM
u guyz need 2 lern to spel!

AMackChuck
08/27/09, 07:35 AM
Gay.

Pudge Halter
08/27/09, 08:31 AM
You knew what this was by the very title of the thread. "Wah." Also, you're contributing to the "senseless arguing" with your inflammatory sarcasm. Kudos.

Not really, but to respond to this would either validate your point or offend your ego, both of which are not my goal. I just feel like it's a waste that some of the smartest people on the internet waste so much time and energy in squabbles with no positive outcome.

I'm sorry if what I posted was interpreted as a challenge. I was just making a simple observation. Perhaps a wrong one, but I guess that's all a matter of perception.


Gay.

...is not a synonym for stupid.

kearn1tm
08/27/09, 09:09 AM
Not really, but to respond to this would either validate your point or offend your ego, both of which are not my goal. I just feel like it's a waste that some of the smartest people on the internet waste so much time and energy in squabbles with no positive outcome.

Here's a positive outcome: deterring people from getting so offended due to differing views of an artists' talent that they compose a lengthy, accusatory and affected letter of superiority and send it to your private message box.

As I said in the first post, don't do it. I don't care for it, it's absurd and petty. If you do, I'll make it public in hopes that it won't happen again.

If you don't care for "squabbles," don't read them. Don't contribute to them. Don't give it attention. That's as much of a "waste" as anything. It appears to me that you just want to complain. Well, you have. You've also contributed nothing. Congratulations.

I'm sorry if what I posted was interpreted as a challenge. I was just making a simple observation. Perhaps a wrong one, but I guess that's all a matter of perception.
You've made your observation, but it wasn't merely an observation as a commentary on what you deem appropriate and inappropriate in relation to online conversation, and it was directed, in part, at me. I take umbrage with that. I also find it nonsensical to feed things you find "wastes." Oh, and observations meant merely to express thoughts on a matter aren't dripping with sarcasm. You were trying to get a rise out of me and/or draw attention to yourself. You've succeeded. Don't be obtuse.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but these kinds of "oh, this is needed /sarcasm" posts are annoying.

AMackChuck
08/27/09, 09:18 AM
Here's a positive outcome: deterring people from getting so offended due to differing views of an artists' talent that they compose a lengthy, accusatory and affected letter of superiority and send it to your private message box.

As I said in the first post, don't do it. I don't care for it, it's absurd and petty. If you do, I'll make it public in hopes that it won't happen again.

If you don't care for "squabbles," don't read them. Don't contribute to them. Don't give it attention. That's as much of a "waste" as anything. It appears to me that you just want to complain. Well, you have. You've also contributed nothing. Congratulations.


You've made your observation, but it wasn't merely an observation as a commentary on what you deem appropriate and inappropriate in relation to online conversation, and it was directed, in part, at me. I take umbrage with that. I also find it nonsensical to feed things you find "wastes." Oh, and observations meant merely to express thoughts on a matter aren't dripping with sarcasm. You were trying to get a rise out of me and/or draw attention to yourself. You've succeeded. Don't be obtuse.

You got a pretty mouth, boy.

kearn1tm
08/27/09, 09:25 AM
You got a pretty mouth, boy.

Cardio.

Pudge Halter
08/27/09, 10:13 AM
Here's a positive outcome: deterring people from getting so offended due to differing views of an artists' talent that they compose a lengthy, accusatory and affected letter of superiority and send it to your private message box.

As I said in the first post, don't do it. I don't care for it, it's absurd and petty. If you do, I'll make it public in hopes that it won't happen again.

Huh? I didn't send anything directly to you, friend.

If you don't care for "squabbles," don't read them. Don't contribute to them. Don't give it attention. That's as much of a "waste" as anything. It appears to me that you just want to complain. Well, you have. You've also contributed nothing. Congratulations.


You've made your observation, but it wasn't merely an observation as a commentary on what you deem appropriate and inappropriate in relation to online conversation, and it was directed, in part, at me. I take umbrage with that. I also find it nonsensical to feed things you find "wastes." Oh, and observations meant merely to express thoughts on a matter aren't dripping with sarcasm. You were trying to get a rise out of me and/or draw attention to yourself. You've succeeded. Don't be obtuse.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but these kinds of "oh, this is needed /sarcasm" posts are annoying.


Dude, I think you're taking this a little too personal. It's just a forum. No big deal. I was trying to offend you.

I'm sorry if I did. Maybe i communicated the wrong idea on accident.

Noah Fawkes
08/27/09, 03:42 PM
Max Bemis is pretty good, this thread, not so much

Wow. Both claim to be "writers", yet don't know how to proofread.

Say Anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John and Todd.

Hate everyone.

/endthread

Burn That Shit
08/27/09, 03:47 PM
John and Say Anything are the same thing, I'm pretty sure. They got butthurt from Todd's "nay nay".

musiclova
08/27/09, 04:35 PM
wow i havnt been on here in forever!!!!

weworemasks
08/27/09, 05:01 PM
i write for many papers, yet don't know the difference between your and you're.

-john

alexa_ATL
08/27/09, 05:03 PM
Cardio.

this has bothered me for a while - who is that in your avy? it looks like john belushi and chevy chases's love child.

/off topic.

chipdip18
08/27/09, 05:33 PM
Say Anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John and Todd.

Hate everyone.

/endthread

Well this was just unnecessary and rude.

Noah Fawkes
08/27/09, 05:42 PM
Well this was just unnecessary and rude.

It's a joke though. As I've said before, Max gets it. Their newest song is a parody about hate. I'm more than favorable for people speaking their minds about bands and records, it's something I keep doing here all the time. Inside joke between Say Anything fans that meant no harm to either of the users.

TachyonEvan
08/27/09, 05:53 PM
Well this is fun.

My thoughts exactly.

Jumpoff
08/27/09, 06:17 PM
It's a joke though. As I've said before, Max gets it. Their newest song is a parody about hate. I'm more than favorable for people speaking their minds about bands and records, it's something I keep doing here all the time. Inside joke between Say Anything fans that meant no harm to either of the users.

That song is so bad :-|

Regards
08/27/09, 06:22 PM
Did nobody else catch the your, you're mistake right in the beginning of his PM? I would figure of anything he would get his your, you're correct...

briewer
08/29/09, 07:59 AM
Say Anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John and Todd.

Hate everyone.

/endthread
You've become such a parody of yourself that just pointing out "hey look everybody, it's Noah Fawkes" is enough of a punch line for me to make fun of your horrible ability at assessing anything.

hey look everybody, it's Noah Fawkes.

Noah Fawkes
08/29/09, 08:10 AM
You've become such a parody of yourself that just pointing out "hey look everybody, it's Noah Fawkes" is enough of a punch line for me to make fun of your horrible ability at assessing anything.

hey look everybody, it's Noah Fawkes.

Karma is a bitch, mate. I'm good, my grades are skyrocketing, I love my work and my girl loves me. This is my favorite year in music since 2002, this is like a full year christmas of amazing music. I'm lucky as hell. If I'm a "parody" to people without anything resembling a life, hell... why not? Have a laugh. :rolleyes:

briewer
08/29/09, 08:27 AM
Karma is a bitch, mate.
If karma is real, making fun of you is the least of my worries.

This is my favorite year in music since 2002, this is like a full year christmas of amazing music.
What was special about 2002? Outside of You Forgot It In People, Original Pirate Material, Yoshimi..., Turn On The Bright Lights, and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, it was a pretty shitty year. And what's special about this year? So far it's been my least favorite of the past decade or longer.

If I'm a "parody" to people without anything resembling a life, hell... why not? Have a laugh. :rolleyes:
Perfectly reasonable assumption to make, that anyone that makes fun of you for your incessant love of a shitty TBS album and your hate for one of the most beloved posters here, Todd, must not have a life. I've gotta ask though, why keep posting here if you're going to keep getting ridiculed by people with 'no life'? And as a regular poster, what excludes you from that group in the first place?

Noah Fawkes
08/29/09, 10:05 AM
If karma is real, making fun of you is the least of my worries.


What was special about 2002? Outside of You Forgot It In People, Original Pirate Material, Yoshimi..., Turn On The Bright Lights, and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, it was a pretty shitty year. And what's special about this year? So far it's been my least favorite of the past decade or longer.


Perfectly reasonable assumption to make, that anyone that makes fun of you for your incessant love of a shitty TBS album and your hate for one of the most beloved posters here, Todd, must not have a life. I've gotta ask though, why keep posting here if you're going to keep getting ridiculed by people with 'no life'? And as a regular poster, what excludes you from that group in the first place?

I don't waste my time with types like you around here. I have a laugh of them. And I don't hate Todd or anyone, really. As I've explained some posts above, it was a joke with Say Anything's newest single. I'm all for people like Todd speaking up their opinions, just like I do. You're the one making me laugh while trying to "ridicularize" me. The joke is on you, matey. Keep trying to verbal punch me, you'll be the one looking like a person with no life on reasonable people's eyes. :slutkiss: and see you later, handsome.