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keepitwolf
08/31/09, 07:22 AM
Obamacare will require an implantable microchip?!

There's a pretty starling thing in the bill that 95% of Americans won't like.


The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable." Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B:

14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary"

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Lets see...




Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency
transponder system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."



This sort of device would be implanted in the majority of people who opt to become covered by the public health care option. With the reform of the private insurance companies, who charge outrageous rates, many people will switch their coverage to a more affordable insurance plan. This means the number of people who choose the public option will increase. This also means the number of people chipped will be plentiful as well. The adults who choose to have a chip implanted are the lucky (yes, lucky) ones in this case. Children who are "born in the United States who at the time of birth is not otherwise covered under acceptable coverage" will be qualified and placed into the CHIP or Children's Health Insurance Program (what a convenient name). With a name like CHIP it would seem consistent to have the chip implanted into a child. Children conceived by parents who are already covered under the public option will more than likely be implanted with a chip by the consent of the parent. Eventually everyone will be implanted with a chip. And with the price and coverage of the public option being so competitive with the private companies, the private company may not survive.

So will everyone be covered by the public option eventually??????

And does that mean everyone will be chipped?????
SOURCE: http://www.opencongress.org (http://www.opencongress.org/)

Praetor
08/31/09, 07:24 AM
hahahahahhahahahaha

Animalhill
08/31/09, 07:25 AM
hahahahahhahahahaha
:-d Exactly

paper halo
08/31/09, 07:28 AM
:FACEPALM:

I can't belive some people are stupid enough to believe this horseshit.

keepitwolf
08/31/09, 07:29 AM
you mean baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

paper halo
08/31/09, 07:30 AM
you mean baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Are you really 48? Because that's just depressing.

Animalhill
08/31/09, 07:30 AM
you mean baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You mean you're a sheep to fear mongering? I agree.

keepitwolf
08/31/09, 07:34 AM
You mean you're a sheep to fear mongering? I agree. You will die just as blind as you are now.

saysmydoctor
08/31/09, 07:34 AM
Timberwolf is a she wolf ahhh woooooooooooooooooooooooo

Animalhill
08/31/09, 07:38 AM
You will die just as blind as you are now.
A bold and quick accusation, considering you do not know me. I may die, "blind" as you put it, but I will certainly never be over 40 and spending my time on a music forum frequented by 16-25 year olds. ;-)

saysmydoctor
08/31/09, 07:43 AM
The age got 'em, you hate to see it happen.

Praetor
08/31/09, 07:46 AM
Definite g' 'e.

SLOWPOKE LOPEZ
08/31/09, 07:49 AM
im just curious, is there a place for the public to actually review the health care bill? i can't find one. granted, i spent about 28 seconds looking, but im lazy. help me out.

Praetor
08/31/09, 07:52 AM
im just curious, is there a place for the public to actually review the health care bill? i can't find one. granted, i spent about 28 seconds looking, but im lazy. help me out.
That website he linked looks legit. I can't remember where I read it.

edit: Looks like that site doesn't have the actual bill itself.

saysmydoctor
08/31/09, 07:57 AM
I think I saw it on Congress Matters, I started reading it. Can't find my bookmark.

Praetor
08/31/09, 07:57 AM
Here it is. HR 3200.

http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf

edit: n/m it's from July 31.

mattmatumbo
08/31/09, 08:03 AM
Is this the second coming of the "death panels"?

saysmydoctor
08/31/09, 08:05 AM
I hope so. And I hope I'm in a grandmother's will.

/sarcasm

Yellowcard2006
08/31/09, 08:13 AM
Sounds like a good idea. ...Why is OP 48 years old?


EDIT: OMG 2500 POSTS I'd like to thank Jason and everyone at Absolutepunk for all the threads and news posts for making this possible. I look forward to another 2500. :party:

GeeBee
08/31/09, 08:15 AM
http://croneandbearit.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/ron-howard.jpg

OP IS OLD.

GeeBee
08/31/09, 08:23 AM
Sounds like a good idea. ...Why is OP 48 years old?


EDIT: OMG 2500 POSTS I'd like to thank Jason and everyone at Absolutepunk for all the threads and news posts for making this possible. I look forward to another 2500. :party:

Maybe as a present, they can let you change your username to one that doesn't include the name of such a shitty band.

jeremypeele
08/31/09, 08:25 AM
if this were true, i wouldn't get it done.

but seriously, would any of you people here get this implanted?

Praetor
08/31/09, 08:26 AM
but seriously, would any of you people here get this implanted?
Of course not: for two reasons.

1. Moral objections.
2. It doesn't exist.

jeremypeele
08/31/09, 08:28 AM
Of course not: for two reasons.

1. Moral objections.
2. It doesn't exist.

haha yeah. i doubt most americans would.

Animalhill
08/31/09, 08:29 AM
Maybe as a present, they can let you change your username to one that doesn't include the name of such a shitty band.
:-d So fucking true.
if this were true, i wouldn't get it done.

but seriously, would any of you people here get this implanted?
Even if it DID exist- no.
Of course not: for two reasons.

1. Moral objections.
2. It doesn't exist.
This.

wrppdarndyrfngr
08/31/09, 08:59 AM
go re-read the Left Behind series again and leave this alone.

TurbulentCo
08/31/09, 09:07 AM
This is retarded

jwicklun
08/31/09, 09:36 AM
are you all blind?!? the bill is obviously a plan to gather as much human DNA as possible (found in the select children) to combine their DNA with reptiles to create a race of LIZARD PEOPLE!!!!!! BUT YOUR ALL FOOLS! FOOLS! YOU GODAMN SHEEPLE!!!!
KNEEL BEFORE THE LIZARD ONES!!!
/sarcasm

brentywat
08/31/09, 09:51 AM
http://croneandbearit.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/ron-howard.jpg

OP IS OLD.

why did you have to use ron howard for this? yes, ron howard is old, but he is also awesome.

Animalhill
08/31/09, 09:52 AM
are you all blind?!? the bill is obviously a plan to gather as much human DNA as possible (found in the select children) to combine their DNA with reptiles to create a race of LIZARD PEOPLE!!!!!! BUT YOUR ALL FOOLS! FOOLS! YOU GODAMN SHEEPLE!!!!
KNEEL BEFORE THE LIZARD ONES!!!
/sarcasm
:-d
why did you have to use ron howard for this? yes, ron howard is old, but he is also a pedophile.
Fixed ;-)

JawsTheme182
08/31/09, 10:37 AM
http://croneandbearit.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/ron-howard.jpg

OP IS OLD.

Brilliant. Absolutely birlliant.

JawsTheme182
08/31/09, 10:40 AM
why did you have to use ron howard for this? yes, ron howard is old, but he is also awesome.

Because this cute little kid in the middle is Opie... and was played by Ron Howard. Now you'll see the brilliance in his post.

http://www.xreferee.com/images/andy_opie_auntbee_family.jpg

perceptrons
08/31/09, 10:41 AM
I'm not completely against the idea something being implanted, I would have to know more about it first. Not saying I believe the OP, I'm just saying in general.

GeeBee
08/31/09, 03:21 PM
Brilliant. Absolutely birlliant.

:bow:

bladerdude360
08/31/09, 04:49 PM
This is retarded. I honestly don't see why someone would believe this is real.

brentywat
08/31/09, 05:30 PM
Because this cute little kid in the middle is Opie... and was played by Ron Howard. Now you'll see the brilliance in his post.

http://www.xreferee.com/images/andy_opie_auntbee_family.jpg

i see now and i feel dumb for not getting that at first. well done Geebee.

GeeBee
08/31/09, 05:37 PM
i see now and i feel dumb for not getting that at first. well done Geebee.

Haha, no worries. We all have our slow days.

saysmydoctor
08/31/09, 07:09 PM
Timberwolf is a she wolf ahhh woooooooooooooooooooooooo
Jesus this was hilarious.

lauren<3s music
08/31/09, 07:24 PM
candidate for death squads?

lauren<3s music
08/31/09, 07:33 PM
Obamacare will require an implantable microchip?!

There's a pretty starling thing in the bill that 95% of Americans won't like.


The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable." Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B:

14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary"

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Lets see...




Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency
transponder system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."



This sort of device would be implanted in the majority of people who opt to become covered by the public health care option. With the reform of the private insurance companies, who charge outrageous rates, many people will switch their coverage to a more affordable insurance plan. This means the number of people who choose the public option will increase. This also means the number of people chipped will be plentiful as well. The adults who choose to have a chip implanted are the lucky (yes, lucky) ones in this case. Children who are "born in the United States who at the time of birth is not otherwise covered under acceptable coverage" will be qualified and placed into the CHIP or Children's Health Insurance Program (what a convenient name). With a name like CHIP it would seem consistent to have the chip implanted into a child. Children conceived by parents who are already covered under the public option will more than likely be implanted with a chip by the consent of the parent. Eventually everyone will be implanted with a chip. And with the price and coverage of the public option being so competitive with the private companies, the private company may not survive.

So will everyone be covered by the public option eventually??????

And does that mean everyone will be chipped?????
SOURCE: http://www.opencongress.org (http://www.opencongress.org/)
and by the way you dumbass piece of shit, that is for implanted devices anything from what they use for a hip replacement to a pacemaker so that way you can track the devices in terms of safety, failure, etc. See how its under the section titled National Medical Device Registry?

and the data isn't being transmitted by the device - the claims data, ehrs, etc is all stuff they collect now. This is just a streamlined version.

I swear to Christ you people and your inability to be RATIONAL HUMAN BEINGS.

I want the death squads. And I want to be the decider damnit.

GeeBee
08/31/09, 07:37 PM
and by the way you dumbass piece of shit, that is for implanted devices anything from what they use for a hip replacement to a pacemaker so that way you can track the devices in terms of safety, failure, etc. See how its under the section titled National Medical Device Registry?

and the data isn't being transmitted by the device - the claims data, ehrs, etc is all stuff they collect now. This is just a streamlined version.

I swear to Christ you people and your inability to be RATIONAL HUMAN BEINGS.

I want the death squads. And I want to be the decider damnit.

ditto this hilarious rant.
kudos.

Machu505
08/31/09, 07:41 PM
Lauren, when I'm President you can be my Secretary of Ass-Kicking.

lauren<3s music
08/31/09, 07:52 PM
ditto this hilarious rant.
kudos.

why thank you. I swear to god 90% of the time i just want to scream READING IS FUNDAMENTAL.

Lauren, when I'm President you can be my Secretary of Ass-Kicking.

I'd like a chauffeur because I shouldn't drive when I'm kicking ass, that would be too dangerous; a personal bartender; and an unlimited supply of stressballs.

Make it happen.

MyNameIsRoss
08/31/09, 08:17 PM
shit will never happen

Praetor
09/01/09, 05:28 AM
Lauren, when I'm President you can be my Secretary of Ass-Kicking.
Hey fuck you, she gets an awesome job like that and I'm stuck with Department of Agriculture?