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billcom6
04/15/03, 04:14 AM
I am just curious as to how the anti war crowd is feeling after the war has basically ended.

Any of you still planning protest after the war? Just to make sure people know the liberation of Iraq was not done in your name.

Considering the war went almost perfect and the Iraqi people DID welcome us as liberators, do you still think the war was the wrong thing to do?

Especially since most of the horrible predictions made did not come true at all ( 500,000 estimated civillian casualties - from the System of a Down video - sorry off by about 499,000, did they actually believe this amount of civillian casualties? if so they need their heads checked).

Would you still like to go up to this man
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Media/Homepage/BushKisspic.jpg
and tell him you didn't want him to be liberated?
Because when it comes down to it, if the anti-war crowd got its way Saddam Hussein would still be torturing and killing his people, and still have WMDs, but it would have been alright because he was "contained."


P.S. Has anyone else noticed Tate hasn't made any war related news posts since the Iraqis started dancing in the streets?
Hmm, I wonder why.....

Mr. Chainsaw
04/15/03, 08:32 AM
This war was never about liberating Iraq. If it were, there are so many other countries that need to be liberated from harsh dictators that we would be at war forever. It was called Iraqi Freedom in an effort to garner as much support as possible. This war was always about trying to protect the United States. While I am not a Bush supporter, I do believe that he has been doing what he thinks is in the best interest of the United States all along and that he believes that Iraq would have eventually been a major threat to our safety. But to say that this war was about liberation, and that the people who opposed it were against such an action is completely ignorant. I am completely for a world without oppression, but I am not for killing people in order to get there, especially those that you are trying/claiming to liberate. While there weren't 500,000 civilian deaths, many innocent people did die, and while you may say that is the reality of war, I say that both war and oppression are the realities of living in a fallen world and neither are actions that I will support.

Safetyin#
04/15/03, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Chainsaw
I say that both war and oppression are the realities of living in a fallen world and neither are actions that I will support.

so what would you do about either.

yeat182
04/15/03, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Chainsaw
This war was never about liberating Iraq. If it were, there are so many other countries that need to be liberated from harsh dictators that we would be at war forever. It was called Iraqi Freedom in an effort to garner as much support as possible. This war was always about trying to protect the United States. While I am not a Bush supporter, I do believe that he has been doing what he thinks is in the best interest of the United States all along and that he believes that Iraq would have eventually been a major threat to our safety. But to say that this war was about liberation, and that the people who opposed it were against such an action is completely ignorant. I am completely for a world without oppression, but I am not for killing people in order to get there, especially those that you are trying/claiming to liberate. While there weren't 500,000 civilian deaths, many innocent people did die, and while you may say that is the reality of war, I say that both war and oppression are the realities of living in a fallen world and neither are actions that I will support.

i agree, but by removing saddam, who is a threat to america, we are also liberating their people....

xnotedgex
04/15/03, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by billcom6
I am just curious as to how the anti war crowd is feeling after the war has basically ended.

Any of you still planning protest after the war? Just to make sure people know the liberation of Iraq was not done in your name.

Considering the war went almost perfect and the Iraqi people DID welcome us as liberators, do you still think the war was the wrong thing to do?

Especially since most of the horrible predictions made did not come true at all ( 500,000 estimated civillian casualties - from the System of a Down video - sorry off by about 499,000, did they actually believe this amount of civillian casualties? if so they need their heads checked).

Would you still like to go up to this man
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Media/Homepage/BushKisspic.jpg
and tell him you didn't want him to be liberated?
Because when it comes down to it, if the anti-war crowd got its way Saddam Hussein would still be torturing and killing his people, and still have WMDs, but it would have been alright because he was "contained."


P.S. Has anyone else noticed Tate hasn't made any war related news posts since the Iraqis started dancing in the streets?
Hmm, I wonder why.....

newsflash...we haven't found any wmd's yet

Stompemplay
04/15/03, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by billcom6
Considering the war went almost perfect and the Iraqi people DID welcome us as liberators, do you still think the war was the wrong thing to do?


First the "iraqi people" are millions, and only 400 or 500 were dancing in the streets.

Second, I believe war is rarely justifiable, and that we shouldnt try to liberate every country that needs help, its not our job. Not that i think we will, well probably just liberate the ones that have oil.

tinybears
04/15/03, 11:04 AM
I hope people keep protesting. But they just don't care.
the only thing the war was about was money. And there were protests today in Irak against sadam, but also against the american, they want them to leave their country, do the people see them then as liberators ?
now they're treatening syrie, do they have a dictator ?

xTSTLx
04/15/03, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by xnotedgex
newsflash...we haven't found any wmd's yet



we have found now like 11 labs that they believe could be related to "weapons of mass dustruction"

yeat182
04/15/03, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Stompemplay
First the "iraqi people" are millions, and only 400 or 500 were dancing in the streets.

Second, I believe war is rarely justifiable, and that we shouldnt try to liberate every country that needs help, its not our job. Not that i think we will, well probably just liberate the ones that have oil.

how do you know how many were dancing in the streets?

evil zach
04/15/03, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by xTSTLx
we have found now like 11 labs that they believe could be related to "weapons of mass dustruction"
every time a suspect lab or site has been found, it has been proven false.

xTSTLx
04/15/03, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by evil zach
every time a suspect lab or site has been found, it has been proven false.

although, in my opinion, these new labs that they have found, actually seem legit

evil zach
04/15/03, 11:52 AM
we'll have to wait and see.

NOFXdesendents5
04/15/03, 03:22 PM
im glad we won the war. im glad we had the war. i hate pussy war protesters.

but this is the hardest part, reconstruction. everyone knew saddam was a pussy, and his soldiers were conscripts, but making a democracy in arabville is gonna be hard.

billcom6
04/15/03, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by xnotedgex
newsflash...we haven't found any wmd's yet

so youre just gonna take the Saddams regimes word that they dont have any? thats a good plan, i mean its not like Saddam would lie about something like that....

Stompemplay
04/15/03, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
how do you know how many were dancing in the streets?

Think i read it in the paper...

definitely not the TV news, they arent bothered with petty details like that.

yeat182
04/15/03, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Stompemplay
Think i read it in the paper...

definitely not the TV news, they arent bothered with petty details like that.

yeah, they are talking about the numbers shown on TV celebrating, estimating the size of the crowd the day they pulled down the statue of saddam. they weren't saying that there were 500 to 600 people in the entire country celebrating...use your brain.

BrandNewRock05
04/15/03, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Stompemplay

Second, I believe war is rarely justifiable, and that we shouldnt try to liberate every country that needs help, its not our job.
I never knew being a good samaritan was such a crime

Safetyin#
04/15/03, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Stompemplay
First the "iraqi people" are millions, and only 400 or 500 were dancing in the streets.

Second, I believe war is rarely justifiable, and that we shouldnt try to liberate every country that needs help, its not our job. Not that i think we will, well probably just liberate the ones that have oil.

First both cnn and fox estimated that it was around 1,000 plus in baghdad, but i know you probably dont care about those sources because there not 1. underground, 2. agenda based, 3. very liberal.
Also when those celibration took place people weren't sure yet that all of the baath henchman were taken care of, because they weren't, so most were still to scared to "dance".

Second i agree with you the war is rarely "justifiable" and that we shouldn't try and liberate every country with out right force.

But the liberation will be more done based on threat to us rather then oil, which sorry to say is a really pathetic arguement.

Safetyin#
04/15/03, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by tinybears
I hope people keep protesting. But they just don't care.
the only thing the war was about was money. And there were protests today in Irak against sadam, but also against the american, they want them to leave their country, do the people see them then as liberators ?
now they're treatening syrie, do they have a dictator ?

The people are protesting now because we havent been able to turn back on the water and power, after saddum destroyed the water grid and turned off the power.

And becasue we failed, to control the looting which is something we have started to take care of now, but we should have done it earlier.


Based on "money" I guess you mean because its costing us like 60billion to free them and protect us.

open mind
10/07/04, 04:15 AM
i wonder what the guy who started this thread thinks today.....wow yeat said it wasn't about liberating iraqis.

Lueda Alia
10/07/04, 06:57 AM
i wonder what the guy who started this thread thinks today.....wow yeat said it wasn't about liberating iraqis.
hehe funny how the reasons of the Republicans change [for the reason of invading Iraq] just when all of their reasons start to turn out to be lies, huh?


I think it's hilarious.

Love As Arson
10/07/04, 09:45 AM
When did the war end?

commatosa
10/07/04, 09:46 AM
I am just curious as to how the anti war crowd is feeling after the war has basically ended.

Any of you still planning protest after the war? Just to make sure people know the liberation of Iraq was not done in your name.

Considering the war went almost perfect and the Iraqi people DID welcome us as liberators, do you still think the war was the wrong thing to do?

Especially since most of the horrible predictions made did not come true at all ( 500,000 estimated civillian casualties - from the System of a Down video - sorry off by about 499,000, did they actually believe this amount of civillian casualties? if so they need their heads checked).

Would you still like to go up to this man
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Media/Homepage/BushKisspic.jpg
and tell him you didn't want him to be liberated?
Because when it comes down to it, if the anti-war crowd got its way Saddam Hussein would still be torturing and killing his people, and still have WMDs, but it would have been alright because he was "contained."


P.S. Has anyone else noticed Tate hasn't made any war related news posts since the Iraqis started dancing in the streets?
Hmm, I wonder why.....

Where the hell have you been for the last 8 months? Have you watched the news once? First, I agree. Our initial going into the war was brilliant. However, our exit strategy....non-existent. And there were a whole lot more than just 1,000 civilian casualties, try about 37,000. The 1000+ were american soldier casualties. Goddamn, this post must have been from a long time ago. It seems like it was copied and pasted and it came from the day after we declared mission accomplished. Actually, we have yet to find any credible evidence that WMD's ever existed AND Bush's weapons guy just came back with a 1,000 page report that basically concluded that "saddam never had and never planned on making weapons or weapons programs; his ability to do so was deteriorating." Again, the war was perfect but everything that happened after the war, not so much.

commatosa
10/07/04, 09:48 AM
HAHAHAHA. I just noticed that this IS from a long time ago. Whoops, boy is my face red.

Lueda Alia
10/07/04, 10:00 AM
HAHAHAHA. I just noticed that this IS from a long time ago. Whoops, boy is my face red.
lol you can always delete the post. haha