I'm not saying that Glen Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990

[zach]

I'm just afraid that he has and would like to know why, if he is innocent, he hasn't produced documentation proving that he did not in fact rape and murder a girl in 1990.



http://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirl in1990.com/

[macabre]

I'm just afraid that he has and would like to know why, if he is innocent, he hasn't produced documentation proving that he did not in fact rape and murder a girl in 1990.



http://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirl in1990.com/

I see what you did there

[.invisible ink.]

please tell me you were just posting this site to be funny.

[thursday727]

This sounds like 4chans doing.
Greatest thing ever.

[TheDemosRock]

This is monstrously stupid.

[saysmydoctor]

holy fucking shit lololololololo

[anthonydarko]

Lulz

[sarahbell1219]

People can be so stupid. Do they really believe this shit?

[thursday727]

I definitally don't believe it but it's still hilarious.

[rockstarK9]

If you say it enough times, eventually it'll become true.

[paper halo]

People can be so stupid. Do they really believe this shit?

Well, plenty of people are stupid enough to believe the nonsense Back spews, so it hardly seems a stretch.

[Praetor]

hahahahahaha this is amazing.

[Josh Weinstein]

Obviously, there are no hard facts to the rumor that Glen Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990, but then again, you never know about the past of any given person. At a former job, a supervisor of mine who I got along with and trusted, was fired all of a sudden. I didn't learn until months later that she is a convicted sex offender.

[deFobbed14yrs]

Obviously, there are no hard facts to the rumor that Glen Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990, but then again, you never know about the past of any given person. At a former job, a supervisor of mine who I got along with and trusted, was fired all of a sudden. I didn't learn until months later that she is a convicted sex offender.


oh little boys like to be touched. tis why priests do it all the time

[HometownHero]

This is so fucking stupid

[bladerdude360]

Haha is this actually for real?

[bladerdude360]

Haha I just started reading some of the stuff on that site...hilarious. They kind of have a point, this site basically spells it all out: http://tjwilde.com/2009/09/02/did-glenn-beck-rape-and-murder-a-young-girl-in-1990/

[thursday727]

yeah this genius. This is definitally Anonymous's MO.

[Yellowcard2006]

Reminds me of Gilbert Godfried at the Bob Saget Roast.

[MyWorldEntire]

Do people really not get what this is from?

[Yellowcard2006]

Do people really not get what this is from?
Right now I think it's from Gilbert Godfried at the Bob Saget Roast. I'm probably wrong. Please share the actual origin of this.

[J.C.]

People can be so stupid. Do they really believe this shit?

I sincerely hope this is the tact conservatives take in knocking down this parody when only 42% of their party are even willing to admit the President was born in this country. After all the talk about Obama being a Kenyan-born nazi communist who wants to pull the plug on old people and Sarah Palin's down syndrome baby, maybe a taste of their own medicine would show them the error of their ways.

Probably not.

[MyWorldEntire]

Right now I think it's from Gilbert Godfried at the Bob Saget Roast. I'm probably wrong. Please share the actual origin of this.

No you are correct.

[asmolitor]

i absolutely applaud this satirical and ironic viral campaign. i hope it explodes to the point that national media gets involved. maybe MSNBC can use their "report on anything" stance to stir the waters.

[asmolitor]

someone doesn't get it (http://www.examiner.com/x-8817-Pittsburgh-Conservative-Examiner%7Ey2009m9d3-Glenn-Beck-guilty-of-rape-and-murder--Desperation-shows-on-the-left):

It really a funny piece of fabricated and directed gossip, and illustrates the desperation that the left is feeling about Glenn Beck pulling back the veil of radicalism in our current administration.

[thursday727]

god i wish Colbert and The Daily Show was on right now, they'd have a field day with this.

[Josh Weinstein]

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1920279

alleged rapist/murderer

[Midget Pirates]

i absolutely applaud this satirical and ironic viral campaign. i hope it explodes to the point that national media gets involved. maybe MSNBC can use their "report on anything" stance to stir the waters.

why do you hope this explodes? you don't think this would do more harm than good to any democrats that reported this?

[jwicklun]

I Just Love My Country. And I Fear For It.

[thursday727]

hahaha
Oh my God, that's just as horrible as Keith Olbermann's PedoBear dungeon. /Keith Olbermann is PedoBear

[Andy Young]

Man I kinda wish this were true.
I hate that douche with a passion.

[asmolitor]

why do you hope this explodes? you don't think this would do more harm than good to any democrats that reported this?

i hope it explodes in order to give legitimacy to the theory. the theory being, if you take something that's blatantly false and use faulty logic - it doesn't matter what factual basis the claim has, just as long as you keep perpetuating the myth long enough to make people believe it's the truth. it's not simply trying to shame glenn beck, it's trying to prove a point - and the fake story is hopefully ridiculous enough for people to notice the satire. if you look at the site, it's almost a complete satire on the obama birth certificate non-story - in the vein of "if someone doesn't deny something that's ridiculous, it must be true!"

considering the subject is glenn beck, and this "campaign" of sorts uses the same tactics as glenn beck does on his show, i think it's an incredible opportunity to show how easily the discourse can be maintained without any facts behind it. and it's not just glenn beck, it's the prevailing notion throughout the country that facts don't matter, just the rhetoric. glenn beck is the absolute epitome of this, from perpetuating and dedicating time to the "birther" movement, ACORN myths, health care inaccuracies, etc.

it's admittedly a childish manuever to prove a point, but presenting a myriad of factual retorts against glenn beck and others like him will never work. reducing it to their level might be the only way to make the point.

and i don't really think it should be viewed as a republican/democrat thing; it should be viewed as an exercise in why news and entertainment shouldn't coincide on political issues. or at the least, not to the extent where it influences the actual political discourse of the nation. one only has to look as far as the town hall "rallies" to see the damaging effects that rhetoric as entertainment can have.

and at the very least, it's a humorous case study.

[asmolitor]

this (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2132793/glenn_beck_1990_waging_war_against. html) explains it a little better, theory-wise:

The creator of the site uses the same tactics as Glenn Beck (http://www.associatedcontent.com/topic/45889/glenn_beck.html) and others of his ilk: Toss out a negative premise about an individual, policy, piece of legislation, etc., and bet the viewer, user, or audience that they cannot prove the contrary, thereby suggesting that the premise is true and irrefutable.

Only it isn't. But you cannot disprove a negative. Logic dictates that proof could always turn up somewhere, sometime. Glenn Beck 1990 is that negative for Glenn Beck.

[zach]

please tell me you were just posting this site to be funny.
I don't know about you, but I don't think that there is anything funny about raping and killing girls in 1990.

[zach]

I see what you did there
I wish I could take credit for uncovering this startling bit of potential information, but really a friend of mine directed me to it.

[sarahbell1219]

I sincerely hope this is the tact conservatives take in knocking down this parody when only 42% of their party are even willing to admit the President was born in this country. After all the talk about Obama being a Kenyan-born nazi communist who wants to pull the plug on old people and Sarah Palin's down syndrome baby, maybe a taste of their own medicine would show them the error of their ways.

Probably not.

Can I see a source for that statistic of 42%? So, what about the dems during Bush's time in office? Dems tore Bush apart on everything he said. Also, all of the 9/11 theories saying Bush was behind it. You can't just blame conservatives for making stuff up. Dems were just as guilty of it during the Bush years.

[sarahbell1219]

Well, plenty of people are stupid enough to believe the nonsense Back spews, so it hardly seems a stretch.

Plenty of people are stupid enough to believe the nonsense Obama spews.

[zach]

Dems tore Bush apart on everything he said.
The key factor here is that they tore Bush apart over things he actually said; not things that they said about him and then demanded that he disprove.
Also, all of the 9/11 theories saying Bush was behind it
This has never been a position held by the Democratic Party.
You can't just blame conservatives for making stuff up. Dems were just as guilty of it during the Bush years.
1) One can absolutely blame them for making stuff, because that's what they're doing. It has nothing to do with if anybody else has done it or not. Perhaps the party of personal responsibility should exercise some personal responsibility.
2)I assume you have some sort of documented evidence to support your claim that the Democrats made up just as much random bullshit during the Bush years that isn't conjecture but instead relies upon empirical evidence and analysis of both qualitative and quantitative values. I'd like to see this documentation.

[TK]

Greatest thing ever.

[zachff]

I'm just afraid that he has and would like to know why, if he is innocent, he hasn't produced documentation proving that he did not in fact rape and murder a girl in 1990.



http://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirl in1990.com/

awesome username man

[Duexy]

People can be so stupid. Do they really believe this shit?

Is that a real question?

[Duexy]

The key factor here is that they tore Bush apart over things he actually said; not things that they said about him and then demanded that he disprove.

This has never been a position held by the Democratic Party.

1) One can absolutely blame them for making stuff, because that's what they're doing. It has nothing to do with if anybody else has done it or not. Perhaps the party of personal responsibility should exercise some personal responsibility.
2)I assume you have some sort of documented evidence to support your claim that the Democrats made up just as much random bullshit during the Bush years that isn't conjecture but instead relies upon empirical evidence and analysis of both qualitative and quantitative values. I'd like to see this documentation.


thank you so much, i was about to freak the fuck out.

[Yellowcard2006]

No you are correct.
Oh awesome, it's even more hilarious now :rotfl:

[popdisaster00]

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[jviraldo]

It's Glenn

[sarahbell1219]

The key factor here is that they tore Bush apart over things he actually said; not things that they said about him and then demanded that he disprove.

This has never been a position held by the Democratic Party.

1) One can absolutely blame them for making stuff, because that's what they're doing. It has nothing to do with if anybody else has done it or not. Perhaps the party of personal responsibility should exercise some personal responsibility.
2)I assume you have some sort of documented evidence to support your claim that the Democrats made up just as much random bullshit during the Bush years that isn't conjecture but instead relies upon empirical evidence and analysis of both qualitative and quantitative values. I'd like to see this documentation.

I'm in class right now on my phone - so me resources are limited to research right now- but I did find this:
http://www.moralgroup.com/NewsItems/Politics/p8.htm

I'll reply a more indepth reply when I get home.

[asmolitor]

I'm in class right now on my phone - so me resources are limited to research right now- but I did find this:
http://www.moralgroup.com/NewsItems/Politics/p8.htm

I'll reply a more indepth reply when I get home.

sigh. that article is from 2004. it's now 2009, and i don't believe those WMD's, or an international act of terrorist synergy, were ever found in iraq. i realize at times it may be subtle, but there's a difference between questioning the bush administration's motives when the entry into iraq was, well, questionable (and was proved to be somewhat prophetic) - and blatantly lying and introducing ridiculous falsehoods in order to control the discourse.

obviously, the main issue at the moment is healthcare - so the likely subtle difference between the two is a matter of questioning policy on a substantive basis (like the budgetary impact, increased/decreased coverage for certain demographics, impact on private industry, etc)... or trying to control the discourse by claiming the president wants to kill your grandmother, and if there's no way to prove he won't kill your grandmother (or if the claim is not wholly denied) then it MUST BE TRUE!

obviously these sorts of ridiculous claims don't warrant being summarily denied each time they are brought up. and that's how glenn beck and the like seize on the opportunity to present a wonderful logical fallacy that is dominating the political discourse as of late: if you don't deny something, it must be true - and if you DO deny it, then clearly the ridiculous claim must have been at least somewhat true, otherwise it wouldn't have been acknowledged.

it's a rhetorical catch-22. and i like that this ridiculous campaign is taking it to an outlandish extreme, because that's the only way to infuse some sort of inquisitive thinking about what americans see and hear on tv/radio/internet.

[paper halo]

Plenty of people are stupid enough to believe the nonsense Obama spews.

Does this invalidate my point? Not in the slightest. I'm sure you feel better though.

[J.C.]

Can I see a source for that statistic of 42%?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0709/58_of_GOP_not_suredont_beleive_Obam a_born_in_US.html

So, what about the dems during Bush's time in office? Dems tore Bush apart on everything he said.

Not to say there wasn't ever criticism of Bush that wasn't retarded, but there's a difference criticizing stuff the President actually says and criticizing him or her for stuff that's been blatantly fabricated.

Also, all of the 9/11 theories saying Bush was behind it. You can't just blame conservatives for making stuff up. Dems were just as guilty of it during the Bush years.

LOL

The 9/11 truth movement was the product of people who are distrustful of everything the government does. They're predominantly conservative-leaning Libertarians.

You know where fringe-tards like that get those ideas? From constantly being told how evil government is and how they need to fear it, which is a tenant of the Republican party platform. The 9/11 truth movement was Republicans reaping what they sowed for so many years.

[sarahbell1219]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0709/58_of_GOP_not_suredont_beleive_Obam a_born_in_US.html


Thanks for that stat. The article was very interesting. I was working at a camp when that article came out so I was a bit in a bubble and had no clue what was going on "the outside."

All I'm saying is that each party is guilty of making stuff up, or making issues seem more drastic or worst than what they may actually be. That in it's self is quite subjective... Beck has the outlet and ability to say what he wants to say, as radical and off as it may be. I just don't think that that gives someone the right to say that he rapped and killed someone. Even thoguh what he said was not very PC- two wrongs don't make a right.

[J.C.]

Thanks for that stat. The article was very interesting. I was working at a camp when that article came out so I was a bit in a bubble and had no clue what was going on "the outside."

All I'm saying is that each party is guilty of making stuff up, or making issues seem more drastic or worst than what they may actually be. That in it's self is quite subjective... Beck has the outlet and ability to say what he wants to say, as radical and off as it may be. I just don't think that that gives someone the right to say that he rapped and killed someone. Even thoguh what he said was not very PC-


1. I don't think anyone here actually believes Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990.

2. In the same way you're defending Beck's right to say whatever he wants because he has an outlet, do people on the internet not have that same right?

two wrongs don't make a right.

What's your stance on the death penalty?

[Adeniz19]

Thanks for that stat. The article was very interesting. I was working at a camp when that article came out so I was a bit in a bubble and had no clue what was going on "the outside."

All I'm saying is that each party is guilty of making stuff up, or making issues seem more drastic or worst than what they may actually be. That in it's self is quite subjective... Beck has the outlet and ability to say what he wants to say, as radical and off as it may be. I just don't think that that gives someone the right to say that he rapped and killed someone. Even thoguh what he said was not very PC- two wrongs don't make a right.what's the difference between beck saying whatever the hell he wants and people on the internet saying whatever the hell they want? haha sounds like you completely missed the point of these internet "accusations".

[xshady121]

This should be in the Glenn Beck thread

Can a mod please move it?

[boykosaurus]

Interesting project, although I think claiming rape is a little distasteful.

[zach]

1. I don't think anyone here actually believes Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990.

All I'm saying, is that untill Glenn Beck proves that he didn't rape and kill a girl in 1990, I wont know what to believe :-(

[Ailite]

lol amazing

[JadziaDrgnRdr]

This is genius but it's cold comfort after the Van Jones thing, and the fact that Glen Beck and his ilk seem to be winning the fight because Progressives/Rationalists refuse to stand up to bullies. :/

[JadziaDrgnRdr]

I'm in class right now on my phone - so me resources are limited to research right now- but I did find this:
http://www.moralgroup.com/NewsItems/Politics/p8.htm

I'll reply a more indepth reply when I get home.

... Dude, you're aware that the "accusations" pretty much panned out that Bush and Co. did indeed sink us into an unfounded war while kicking billions of dollars into his friends war profiteering busness aaaand kept the price tag off the budget so it could be a big pinata of deadly badness for President Obama right? That people are hemming and hawing about massive war crimes and violations now. (No one is gonna do a damn thing though.)

Bottom line, Republicans make up about 95% of their causes and controversies and are consummate at making people scared out of their wits with the possibilities they present. They did it with Willie Horton, illegal immigrants, abortion, da gayz commin to getchu, and they're doing it now with health care reform. Republicans invented the 'wedge issue". It's a good cover for doing the bidding of their corporate bosses. Dems fail at it because you can't simultaneously be "for the people" and also be a corporate stooge without people noticing. Just like you can't have overwhelming majorities and still claim to not have the votes to push through your agenda.

Reps = Evil

Most Dems = Stupid,. weak, and evil.

Feh!

[TangledUp]

Not funny.

[paper halo]

Not funny.

Is humour a partisan issue now?

[RuckerPark]

I'm just afraid that he has and would like to know why, if he is innocent, he hasn't produced documentation proving that he did not in fact rape and murder a girl in 1990.



http://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirl in1990.com/
i'm saying this with the utmost respect.

fuck you.

[J.C.]

http://glenn-beck-insults.webs.com/beck_rape.jpg

[J.C.]

Not funny.

i'm saying this with the utmost respect.

fuck you.

It's hilarious to see conservatives come out of the woodwork here to take offense to 'allegations' no one takes seriously, yet they're nowhere to be found when their side starts claiming that Obama isn't a United States citizen. Or that his healthcare plan includes death panels designed to kill off the elderly. Or that by speaking to our school children about the importance of their education, he's indoctrinating them in the same manner the Hitler Youth were in Nazi Germany. No, none of those things are worth speaking out against and condemning, but a parody of how retarded those allegations are that involves Glenn Beck is.

[circasurviver]

Glenn Beck rulezzz

[paper halo]

i'm saying this with the utmost respect.

fuck you.

Miss the point much?

[concernedparent]

i'm saying this with the utmost respect.

fuck you.
You're stupid.

[zach]

i'm saying this with the utmost respect.

fuck you.
You have to buy me dinner first.


In all seriousness though, I don't know if you watch his show or not, but threats of sexual violence don't do much to support the case that he didn't rape and murder a girl in 1990. If anything that's just how the sort of person who goes around raping and murdering girls in 1990 would react to such allegations.

[caveBEAR]

My mother worked for Beck in 1990, and my little brother, age 19, looks nothing like my father. Weird, right?

[Duexy]

It's hilarious to see conservatives come out of the woodwork here to take offense to 'allegations' no one takes seriously, yet they're nowhere to be found when their side starts claiming that Obama isn't a United States citizen. Or that his healthcare plan includes death panels designed to kill off the elderly. Or that by speaking to our school children about the importance of their education, he's indoctrinating them in the same manner the Hitler Youth were in Nazi Germany. No, none of those things are worth speaking out against and condemning, but a parody of how retarded those allegations are that involves Glenn Beck is.

:)

[ted is lying]

Longest website name ever.

[RuckerPark]

It's hilarious to see conservatives come out of the woodwork here to take offense to 'allegations' no one takes seriously, yet they're nowhere to be found when their side starts claiming that Obama isn't a United States citizen. Or that his healthcare plan includes death panels designed to kill off the elderly. Or that by speaking to our school children about the importance of their education, he's indoctrinating them in the same manner the Hitler Youth were in Nazi Germany. No, none of those things are worth speaking out against and condemning, but a parody of how retarded those allegations are that involves Glenn Beck is.
i did. i defended obama, it was on the first page on that thread....you can look it up.
Miss the point much?
that's like saying "i'm not saying Obama abandoned his own Kenyan brother but..." it's just stupid and very ignorant to even in jest to make up anything like that.
You're stupid.
nope, just don't like this thread.
You have to buy me dinner first.


In all seriousness though, I don't know if you watch his show or not, but threats of sexual violence don't do much to support the case that he didn't rape and murder a girl in 1990. If anything that's just how the sort of person who goes around raping and murdering girls in 1990 would react to such allegations.
to be honest with you, I CAN'T STAND Glenn Beck, he seems fake and i turn off his show within 5 minutes of watching it. But to even make this up as a joke, is very low and doesn't reflect well on anyone.

[Jason Tate]

i did. i defended obama, it was on the first page on that thread....you can look it up.

that's like saying "i'm not saying Obama abandoned his own Kenyan brother but..." it's just stupid and very ignorant to even in jest to make up anything like that.

nope, just don't like this thread.

to be honest with you, I CAN'T STAND Glenn Beck, he seems fake and i turn off his show within 5 minutes of watching it. But to even make this up as a joke, is very low and doesn't reflect well on anyone.
It's not a joke -- it's pointing out the absurdity of circular logic.

[Duexy]

to be honest with you, I CAN'T STAND Glenn Beck, he seems fake and i turn off his show within 5 minutes of watching it.


Yet someone posting a link to a site mocking same circular logic Glenn Beck uses on every broadcast of his show is enough to stir a "fuck you" out of you?

[RuckerPark]

It's not a joke -- it's pointing out the absurdity of circular logic.

Yet someone posting a link to a site mocking same circular logic Glenn Beck uses on every broadcast of his show is enough to stir a "fuck you" out of you?

i was simply saying the subject matter was too extreme. I got that they just want to tear apart his style of arguing, but i think they could've picked a better subject matter

[Jason Tate]

i was simply saying the subject matter was too extreme. I got that they just want to tear apart his style of arguing, but i think they could've picked a better subject matter
Satire is supposed to be extreme. Would "A Modest Proposal" have worked if it didn't have people eating babies?

[RuckerPark]

Satire is supposed to be extreme. Would "A Modest Proposal" have worked if it didn't have people eating babies?

without reading the rest, i immediately thought of Swift when you wrote this. Okay, you have a point there.

[zach]

But to even make this up as a joke, is very low and doesn't reflect well on anyone.
I'm sure you're a nice guy, but I can't really take this seriously because all I can picture is Kenny fuckin' Powers yelling this at me.

[RuckerPark]

I'm sure you're a nice guy, but I can't really take this seriously because all I can picture is Kenny fuckin' Powers yelling this at me.
bgDaVLCaBzQ
3:40

[zach]

Bahahahaha, I totally quoted that part at work tonight.

[Trainsaw]

well it looks like Mr. Beck heard about the site:

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/09/10/lawyers-for-tv-uberd.html

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/09/can-a-mere-domain-name-be-defamation-glenn-beck-says-yes.ars?utm_source=microblogging&utm_medium=arstch&utm_term=Main%20Account&utm_campaign=microblogging

[neo506]

Isaac Eiland-Hall just won a highly publicized case (http://domainnamewire.com/2009/11/06/glenn-beck-loses-domain-dispute-over-meme-site/) against Glenn Beck over the domain name glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirl in1990.com. As soon as he won, he did something surprising: he offered the domain name to Beck for free.

In a letter (pdf (http://domainnamewire.com/wp-content/Dear-Mr-Beck.pdf)) to Beck, Eiland-Hall explained that he has met his objectives with the domain name and web site, and points out to Beck that bringing the case made things worse for Beck.
It bears observing that by bringing the WIPO complaint, you took what was merely one small critique meme, in a sea of internet memes, and turned it into a super-meme. Then, in pressing forward (by not withdrawing the complaint and instead filing additional briefs), you turned the super-meme into an object lesson in First Amendment principles.”
In explaining his reason for voluntarily handing over the domain, Eiland-Hall wrote:
“…I want to demonstrate to you that I had my lawyer fight this battle only to help preserve the First Amendment. Now that it is safe, at least from you (for the time being), I have no more use for the actual scrap of digital real estate you sought…


http://domainnamewire.com/2009/11/06/after-winning-case-man-hands-domain-name-to-glenn-beck/

[xshady121]

Isaac Eiland-Hall just won a highly publicized case (http://domainnamewire.com/2009/11/06/glenn-beck-loses-domain-dispute-over-meme-site/) against Glenn Beck over the domain name glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirl in1990.com. As soon as he won, he did something surprising: he offered the domain name to Beck for free.

In a letter (pdf (http://domainnamewire.com/wp-content/Dear-Mr-Beck.pdf)) to Beck, Eiland-Hall explained that he has met his objectives with the domain name and web site, and points out to Beck that bringing the case made things worse for Beck.
It bears observing that by bringing the WIPO complaint, you took what was merely one small critique meme, in a sea of internet memes, and turned it into a super-meme. Then, in pressing forward (by not withdrawing the complaint and instead filing additional briefs), you turned the super-meme into an object lesson in First Amendment principles.”
In explaining his reason for voluntarily handing over the domain, Eiland-Hall wrote:
“…I want to demonstrate to you that I had my lawyer fight this battle only to help preserve the First Amendment. Now that it is safe, at least from you (for the time being), I have no more use for the actual scrap of digital real estate you sought…


http://domainnamewire.com/2009/11/06/after-winning-case-man-hands-domain-name-to-glenn-beck/





Abbott noted that whether or not the web site is defamatory could be an issue for the courts.


While I'm surprised he lost the WIPO arbitration case, I do not believe he would have lost a defamatory case. I think that's why he handed the domain over.

[Smash Adams]

-faCh8BUEts