An Inconvenient Truth

[kirbs84]

I never thought I'd be interested in seeing a movie with Al Gore in it

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount_classics/aninconvenienttruth/trailer/

[dashboard1190]

Looks intense.

I love going to the Apple site every weekend and check up on my new trailers.

Has anyone seen the new The DaVinci Code trailer? Looks AMAZING.

[EndlessMike]

Looks intense.

I love going to the Apple site every weekend and check up on my new trailers.

Has anyone seen the new The DaVinci Code trailer? Looks AMAZING.

I do the same thing, but for some reason I couldn't bring myself to watch the trailer for this. I thought it was going to be really preachy or something. I guess I'll check it out.

And The DaVinci Code looks really good.

[dashboard1190]

I do the same thing, but for some reason I couldn't bring myself to watch the trailer for this. I thought it was going to be really preachy or something. I guess I'll check it out.

And The DaVinci Code looks really good.

Less than a month!

[kirbs84]

I do the same thing, but for some reason I couldn't bring myself to watch the trailer for this. I thought it was going to be really preachy or something. I guess I'll check it out.

And The DaVinci Code looks really good.

it didn't seem too preachy to me. it's not really about politics per se. it's about the environment and how al gore doesn't want me to destroy the earth he helped create...i think.

[8:17am]

it didn't seem too preachy to me. it's not really about politics per se. it's about the environment and how al gore doesn't want me to destroy the earth he helped create...i think.
Al Gore has always cared a great deal about the enviornment. Back during Clinton's first term, when the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act was first introduced, Gore wanted to add some legislation that would raise taxes on oil companies, and create tougher enviornmental standards. It got dropped, as did many things, so the bill could (barely) pass. What insued was nearly a decade of incredible economic growth, which the Bush Administration destroyed in four years....

But, back to the film, it looks really good. Gore also helped found a television network, called Current TV. It's a pretty cool concept, so check it out. http://www.current.tv/

[aolsux]

best film I've seen in such a long time, makes you think

[fluke182]

Half good, half Gore selling himself. It was a vanity project in the most literal sense of the word. Amazing message, so so presentation with a little too much in terms of personal BS.

[aolsux]

personally, i really felt moved by it and fed up with america

[kirbs84]

Half good, half Gore selling himself. It was a vanity project in the most literal sense of the word. Amazing message, so so presentation with a little too much in terms of personal BS.

that's kind of the vibe I got from watching some of the trailers. I still would like to see it though.

[Dan Hollister]

Propaganda and line charts. Oh so many line charts. Zero empirical evidence. Garbage. A well-made film, but that doesn't mean it's correct.

[aolsux]

well, i thought it was brilliant and eye opening

[fluke182]

Propaganda and line charts. Oh so many line charts. Zero empirical evidence. Garbage. A well-made film, but that doesn't mean it's correct.
So damn many line charts...

[matt_rawlings]

Most terrifying film of last year. I saw it for the first time tonight because they screened it at the on campus cinema.

Seriously...some crazy stuff in there. It was really nicely done, and some of the more personal stuff was really touching.

[matt_rawlings]

Queue 1000 people making a ManBearPig joke

[Smash Adams]

I liked it, and also liked the futurama clip

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[JunkBondTrader]

you want scary? see Jesus Camp

[matt_rawlings]

It was just a brilliant documentary.

Also, I love it whenever Al Gore is on futurama

[matt_rawlings]

you want scary? see Jesus Camp

I saw the trailer for it, and that shit looked fucked up

[fluke182]

Honestly, great message but it annoyed me how vain Al Gore was. Also, I found it incredibly boring, but I think a lot of that is just because I am not a HUGE fan of Gore.

[matt_rawlings]

Honestly, great message but it annoyed me how vain Al Gore was. Also, I found it incredibly boring, but I think a lot of that is just because I am not a HUGE fan of Gore.

I can see how somebody may have found it a little heavy and thought it was boring, but you thought he was vain?

I don't understand that at all. He aired alot of personal shit in this film that most other political figures would have burried deep in their closets (his son almost being killed, the death of his sister to lung cancer).

People say Al Gore is self important. Well, I think anybody with the determination and guts to do what he does has more than a little right to portray a sense of self worth

[vandalsandquinn]

i could never watch this. i'd freak myself out

[fluke182]

I can see how somebody may have found it a little heavy and thought it was boring, but you thought he was vain?

I don't understand that at all. He aired alot of personal shit in this film that most other political figures would have burried deep in their closets (his son almost being killed, the death of his sister to lung cancer).

People say Al Gore is self important. Well, I think anybody with the determination and guts to do what he does has more than a little right to portray a sense of self worth
Including things about the previous election and showing images of hanging chads was just sad and desperate, and unnecessary in its inclusion. His message was good, but clouding it with personal things of that nature just seemed ridiculous. The personal things about his son and sister were no big deal, but including political things when the themes are so broad and party-less made me dislike the man.

Also, making sure to show himself developing his presentation on his Mac (emphasis on his Mac in every computer scene, very noticeable), both for his possible Mac sponsorship and because it was like he was trying to show he was capable made me frustrated too. I don't need proof he made the presentation. Even if he had proof I wouldn't believe he compiled it because I'm sure a gang of researchers and lackeys did it for him.

[matt_rawlings]

i could never watch this. i'd freak myself out

It did freak me out a bit, but it also made me feel good because there are people out there trying to make the world a better place. There are some really simple and nice ways to just kind of respect the world around us.

It also made me feel quite humble. It shows a satalite photograph from the furthest point of our universe that a satalite has ever gone, and on the whole photograph that take up a 30x30 feet, earth is literally a tiny blue dot

[vandalsandquinn]

It did freak me out a bit, but it also made me feel good because there are people out there trying to make the world a better place. There are some really simple and nice ways to just kind of respect the world around us.

It also made me feel quite humble. It shows a satalite photograph from the furthest point of our universe that a satalite has ever gone, and on the whole photograph that take up a 30x30 feet, earth is literally a tiny blue dot
i was talking to my sister about this and she said the same type of thing. it's better to know what you can do to help than just doing nothing in fear

[matt_rawlings]

Including things about the previous election and showing images of hanging chads was just sad and desperate, and unnecessary in its inclusion. His message was good, but clouding it with personal things of that nature just seemed ridiculous. The personal things about his son and sister were no big deal, but including political things when the themes are so broad and party-less made me dislike the man.

Also, making sure to show himself developing his presentation on his Mac (emphasis on his Mac in every computer scene, very noticeable), both for his possible Mac sponsorship and because it was like he was trying to show he was capable made me frustrated too. I don't need proof he made the presentation. Even if he had proof I wouldn't believe he compiled it because I'm sure a gang of researchers and lackeys did it for him.

....The man has written two entirely self researched and written books on the subject, with the hard data coming from various sources. If you check the credits, it shows every single source he quotes or uses as evidence. There have been numerous investigations into the research and his statements by apposing parties, none of which have been succesfully discredited because it is all extremely tight.

You seem to be forgetting that he has been campaigning this shit for three decades, not just the three month run of the movie. Its like saying that Stephen Hawking doesn't know shit about science because he is famous.

It shows his personal life because it is documenting the journey that he took throughout the world over the last 30 years with this message. Him not getting the presidency was a massive blow to environmental law and policy, as he actually states over the footage that is shown.

He isn't sponsored by apple, he is on their board of directors and a cheif consultant in their opporation. Obviously he is going to use an Apple, thats just common sense.

[eye<3n00dz]

But he's being Super Serial!

[HplessRomntic]

Most terrifying film of last year. I saw it for the first time tonight because they screened it at the on campus cinema.

Seriously...some crazy stuff in there. It was really nicely done, and some of the more personal stuff was really touching.


yes special effects will do that to a movie; make unrealistic theories come to life

[EnderDove]

I'm watching it in a class later this semester, I'm looking forward to it.

[atticus1492]

yes special effects will do that to a movie; make unrealistic theories come to life

I sure hope that this is a joke.

[1Roth4]

im still not sure when i'll watch this... i need to have an open mind.

i took an environmental policy class last semester... the prof was awful.... so over christmas, i showed my resentment towards him by not giving a fuck.

i'll watch it soon though

[1Roth4]

I sure hope that this is a joke.

george lucas helped....seriously

ha

[atticus1492]

george lucas helped....seriously

ha

I was completely unaware.

ha

[HplessRomntic]

by effects i meant computer animated glaciers melting at a ridiculous speed. pfff for some reason when someone mentions special effects people think explosions :/. i feel sorry for who ever buys into this bullshit. like i said before i do belive pollution is a growing problem. but global warming is a natural occurrence. you cant stop what mother nature has planed.

i for one also took a college environmental science class and was told that movie was all bullshit. theres not enough data to actually predict what will happen.

[sdbrown]

by effects i meant computer animated glaciers melting at a ridiculous speed. pfff for some reason when someone mentions special effects people think explosions :/. i feel sorry for who ever buys into this bullshit. like i said before i do belive pollution is a growing problem. but global warming is a natural occurrence. you cant stop what mother nature has planed.

i for one also took a college environmental science class and was told that movie was all bullshit. theres not enough data to actually predict what will happen.
Global warming is natural, yes. At this speed? no. People need to stop using that excuse. AIDs is natural too. Should we let it run it's course?

[thatwasamoment]

by effects i meant computer animated glaciers melting at a ridiculous speed. pfff for some reason when someone mentions special effects people think explosions :/. i feel sorry for who ever buys into this bullshit. like i said before i do belive pollution is a growing problem. but global warming is a natural occurrence. you cant stop what mother nature has planed.

i for one also took a college environmental science class and was told that movie was all bullshit. theres not enough data to actually predict what will happen.Listen to the man, he was told this movie is bullshit. Therefore, its bullshit.

[matt_rawlings]

by effects i meant computer animated glaciers melting at a ridiculous speed. pfff for some reason when someone mentions special effects people think explosions :/. i feel sorry for who ever buys into this bullshit. like i said before i do believe pollution is a growing problem. but global warming is a natural occurrence. you cant stop what mother nature has planed.

i for one also took a college environmental science class and was told that movie was all bullshit. theres not enough data to actually predict what will happen.

Then how come not one single legit scientist has disproved global warming, or even argued with it after being given these facts, whereas of a randomly and independently selected demographic of the highest areas of the scientific community all agreed 100% with the results presented by this research?

The government hates the idea of global warming, because they stand to lose alot of money from it.

He doesn't say at any point that the ice will melt today. He shows evidence and sites various up to date tests and data streams to show just how little an environmental change it will take to fuck the planet.

And if global warming is natural, how come there has been more global warming in the last 150 years than the 15000 years combined?

Could it be the machines and polutants we have been pumping ever more increasingly into the atmosphere since the industrial revolution, or could your magical 'Opinion based fact' be correct?

[HplessRomntic]

And if global warming is natural, how come there has been more global warming in the last 150 years than the 15000 years comdined?

Could it be the machines and polutants we have been pumping ever more increasingly into the atmosphere since the industrial revolution, or could your magical 'Opinion based fact' be correct?
ill tell you what. stop contributing to the problem if you really do believe this crap. like I said before stop filling your tank up with gas, don't buy any more groceries from any super market chain, don't pay for public transportation, don't send any more letters in the mail. after all these are all things that are moved around by gas wasting diesel vehicles on a daily basis.

maybe there is just not enough data to actualy date back billions of years. seeing as how thats just about how old if not older this planet really is. im not saying this movie is bullshit just cuase i was told it was bullshit. unlike most people i do some research before i belive what ever i hear. i said its bullshit because id rather belive a professer who has a phd and actually studied the ins and outs of environmental science.

[sdbrown]

ill tell you what. stop contributing to the problem if you really do believe this crap. like I said before stop filling your tank up with gas, don't buy any more groceries from any super market chain, don't pay for public transportation, don't send any more letters in the mail. after all these are all things that are moved around by gas wasting diesel vehicles on a daily basis.

maybe there is just not enough data to actualy date back billions of years. seeing as how thats just about how old if not older this planet really is. im not saying this movie is bullshit just cuase i was told it was bullshit. unlike most people i do some research before i belive what ever i hear. i said its bullshit because id rather belive a professer who has a phd and actually studied the ins and outs of environmental science.
Wait...so have you done the research, or are you basing your opinion completely on this one professor? and what research have you done (if any)?

I'd reccomend you don't get into an argument with your only backup being that a professor with a phD told you what your opinion should be. Are you religious at all? Because I'm sure there are people out there with PhDs that will tell you the bible is BS as well. Why believe in one thing and not the other?

What was your professors name? I'd really like to email him and ask him what basis he has for calling the movie crap.

And by the way, I have had plenty of professors that believe global warming is real. They all are environmental or geology professors. Colin Thorn- give him a call. 217-333-3342 He's been researching periglacial geomorpholgy for 30 years. If you can reach him there's a chance he can explain to you (like he did our class) that global warming is a very well supported theory and will explain why.

[matt_rawlings]

ill tell you what. stop contributing to the problem if you really do believe this crap. like I said before stop filling your tank up with gas, don't buy any more groceries from any super market chain, don't pay for public transportation, don't send any more letters in the mail. after all these are all things that are moved around by gas wasting diesel vehicles on a daily basis.

maybe there is just not enough data to actualy date back billions of years. seeing as how thats just about how old if not older this planet really is. im not saying this movie is bullshit just cuase i was told it was bullshit. unlike most people i do some research before i belive what ever i hear. i said its bullshit because id rather belive a professer who has a phd and actually studied the ins and outs of environmental science.

I have been researching global warming and environmental scienece for about 4 years, long before this film.

I do not own a car, I walk or use mass public transport.

I use energy saving bulbs/converters.

I recycle.

I do what I can to try and help. I never said I did enough, but at least I try to do something

There is actually data going back billions of years. From fosil records and samples, people can dictate how much carbon monoxide was ingested into the organic lifeform. They can fucking diagnose the cause of death for dinosaurs for fucks sake.

They have atmospheric carbon monoxide readings from around a million years ago, all of which supports the idea of global warming.

There has not been a single successfully or widely accepted piece of research argueing against the idea of global warming.


And you say you do research before you believe what you hear. I would like to see this, as it seems that your idea of research is based on your professors opinion, not your own research.

I have given you many many reasons to support my arguements. Show me one that you yourself have sourced or one opinion/conclusiong that doesn't come from your professor

[HplessRomntic]

and how do you know that all the information you have recived isnt by someone who is basis? i have stated my facts earlyer and on other fourms about this issue. im not gona call your professer, why? because i really dont care about this issue. i was just stating my opinion on the topic.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

The whole thing looked like propaganda to me.

[sdbrown]

and how do you know that all the information you have recived isnt by someone who is basis? i have stated my facts earlyer and on other fourms about this issue. im not gona call your professer, why? because i really dont care about this issue. i was just stating my opinion on the topic.
I fire the same question back at you. Although you might have meant biased? Either way, it's MUCH harder and riskier to say you believe in a theory than to write it off as crap.

[TJ Wells]

it's a two hour piece of advertising for al gore.

[unwritten]

it's a two hour piece of advertising for al gore.

yes.

[TJ Wells]

And I GUARANTEE it wins the Best Documentary Oscar even though Deliver Us From Evil was 10000000000x better

[Tristan Needler]

The whole thing looked like propaganda to me.Propaganda for what? Making the world a nicer place?

it's a two hour piece of advertising for al gore.

yes.
What!? Are you serious?

[TJ Wells]

Propaganda for what? Making the world a nicer place?




What!? Are you serious?
yes...what the fuck was with all the interludes about al gore's life? they were just completely unnecessary.

[Tristan Needler]

yes...what the fuck was with all the interludes about al gore's life? they were just completely unnecessary.
They described his passion for the subject, and detailed the research he has done, and the places he has gone to find this information, all supporting what he is saying and making it more believable to those skeptics who think the current rate of climate change is something natural.

Without those, we might as well have watched a news anchor come on TV and say "Global Warming is real."

But the movie wasn't to convince people like me who already know that climate change is a real issue and a problem that needs to be addressed, he doesn't need to convince me. He needs to convince those who don't believe, or may be on the fence. To do something like that you can't just spew facts out like a machine. You not only need to show that you have evidence, but you also need to show the lengths you have gone through to accurately obtain unbiased evidence.

[IAPAI]

Including things about the previous election and showing images of hanging chads was just sad and desperate, and unnecessary in its inclusion. His message was good, but clouding it with personal things of that nature just seemed ridiculous. The personal things about his son and sister were no big deal, but including political things when the themes are so broad and party-less made me dislike the man.

Also, making sure to show himself developing his presentation on his Mac (emphasis on his Mac in every computer scene, very noticeable), both for his possible Mac sponsorship and because it was like he was trying to show he was capable made me frustrated too. I don't need proof he made the presentation. Even if he had proof I wouldn't believe he compiled it because I'm sure a gang of researchers and lackeys did it for him.

He's been on the board of directors at Apple since 2000. If he wasn't using a Mac, I would be incredibly surprised.

[TJ Wells]

This argument is all moot: Deliver Us From Evil was the best documentary of 2006, not this. And everyone should see that.

[Tristan Needler]

This argument is all moot: Deliver Us From Evil was the best documentary of 2006, not this. And everyone should see that.
I hadn't even heard of it, but I want to now that I've read a little about it.

[TJ Wells]

I hadn't even heard of it, but I want to now that I've read a little about it.
Im dissapointed, because I know it's going to be like last year at the Oscars. An Inconvenient Truth will win, not because it's the best (like March Of The Penguins over Murderball last year) but because it's gotten the most press.

[youronlyescape]

I recycle.

I saw an episode of "Bullshit!" on recycling. Apparently recycling creates more pollution than it saves (the only exception being cans).
That being said I haven't researched beyond that and don't know the truth to it.

Comments?


I've been meaning to see An Inconvenient Truth for a while though. I'll have to rent it sometime.

[Adrian Villagomez]

Very glad I finally watched this.

[Nick Le]

Haha, a bit of a bump there.

But I watched this in my Env. Science class and i'm pretty sure some other class in high school. I liked it.