NFL Draft

[zizou1790]

I didnt see an NFL draft thread so im starting one, with the question where do you see the big names going i.e (bush, leinart, young, cutler) and who would you like to see your team grab?

im a steelers fan id like to see us pick up the Saftey Darnell Bing from USC

[LeftWideOpen]

Bush will go #1, although I think the Texans would be wise to trade the pick or use it to take Williams (they already have a good RB ).
Leinart will go #3 to the Titans
Young goes #7 to the Raiders (match made in hell)
Cutler goes #10 to Arizona

I'd like to see the Pats take Ernie Sims, if he was somehow still around at #21. But my money is on Richard Marshall, the Fresno State CB.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Mario Williams to the Saints at #2, D'Brickashaw Ferguson to Houston at #1 (IF THEY'RE SMART) or to NY Jets at #4.

[kg00d]

Draft is next weekend?

[FondestMemory]

im a steelers fan id like to see us pick up the Saftey Darnell Bing from USC

i don't think bing will be around for us to take him. the safety from penn state should be around in the second or third round, he'd be a great pickup. nice complement to polamalu.

they need a playmaking receiver to use as a deep threat. and preferably somebody who return kicks. center is also a need.

although, if bobby carpenter is around at 32, and sinorice moss, lendale white or bing are all gone, i think that's where their pick goes.

[LeftWideOpen]

i don't think bing will be around for us to take him. the safety from penn state should be around in the second or third round, he'd be a great pickup. nice complement to polamalu.

they need a playmaking receiver to use as a deep threat. and preferably somebody who return kicks. center is also a need.

although, if bobby carpenter is around at 32, and sinorice moss, lendale white or bing are all gone, i think that's where their pick goes.

jason allen, out of tennesee, is a sick safety and another option for the steelers. all indications are that moss, bing, and carpenter will be gone by then.

[Broken Parachute]

Since the Giants are about to pickup Arrington, we need another WR and a good CB or Saftey. I would love to have Santonio Holmes (WR, Ohio State) but I don't know if he'll fall to the late first round.

[Dirty Ernie]

i have a feeling the eagles will move from 14 to somewhere into the top 10

[FondestMemory]

jason allen, out of tennesee, is a sick safety and another option for the steelers. all indications are that moss, bing, and carpenter will be gone by then.

yeah, i assume they'll be gone. the only one that won't surprise me if he's still around is carpenter.

i don't know much about allen. i'll have to look into him. any idea what round they're projecting him in?

however, if the hamstring scares enough people away from lendale and he's still there, i think they go with him. healthy, he fits the style perfectly. and they have enough help right there now that they have time for him to get healthy. that's not the pick i want, but i wouldn't complain, as long as they drafted up to par in the rest of the rounds.

but, i'm not worried, our last few drafts have been damn good. i trust them.

[LeftWideOpen]

Since the Giants are about to pickup Arrington, we need another WR and a good CB or Saftey. I would love to have Santonio Holmes (WR, Ohio State) but I don't know if he'll fall to the late first round.

sinorice moss would fit in well as a deep threat there, IMO.

[LeftWideOpen]

yeah, i assume they'll be gone. the only one that won't surprise me if he's still around is carpenter.

i don't know much about allen. i'll have to look into him. any idea what round they're projecting him in?

however, if the hamstring scares enough people away from lendale and he's still there, i think they go with him. healthy, he fits the style perfectly. and they have enough help right there now that they have time for him to get healthy. that's not the pick i want, but i wouldn't complain, as long as they drafted up to par in the rest of the rounds.

but, i'm not worried, our last few drafts have been damn good. i trust them.

he's being projected as a late first round pick. He might not be around when Pitt picks either, but health concerns might keep him around until 32 (he dislocated his hip in october). He can play safety or CB and has done so at Tennesee. I guess he was considered to be a sure first rounder until the injury.

[FondestMemory]

Since the Giants are about to pickup Arrington, we need another WR and a good CB or Saftey. I would love to have Santonio Holmes (WR, Ohio State) but I don't know if he'll fall to the late first round.

you're better off with more of a possession type receiver. holmes if anything, will be a viable deep threat, but him and plax on the field together leaves you with two deep threats who are questionable when you only need five yards.

i love holmes and wish he didn't leave osu, but i honestly have doubts how effective he'll be in the pros. he's got some attitude issues and plays too lackadasical at times. but if you want speed, he's got it.

[asianxcore]

Niners have two picks in first round, I hope they are smart.

[FondestMemory]

he's being projected as a late first round pick. He might not be around when Pitt picks either, but health concerns might keep him around until 32 (he dislocated his hip in october). He can play safety or CB and has done so at Tennesee. I guess he was considered to be a sure first rounder until the injury.

nice. i wouldn't complain about that. cb is inconsistent right now, but still young. be nice to have somebody consistent in there. a safety isn't instantly necessary, hope's already been replaced, but i don't think that's a long term solution. i want somebody young to step in there as soon as possible. and hell, if that somebody can also throw some help at the cb position, that'd be a plus.

[Broken Parachute]

you're better off with more of a possession type receiver. holmes if anything, will be a viable deep threat, but him and plax on the field together leaves you with two deep threats who are questionable when you only need five yards.

i love holmes and wish he didn't leave osu, but i honestly have doubts how effective he'll be in the pros. he's got some attitude issues and plays too lackadasical at times. but if you want speed, he's got it.

Yeah good point. Burress did play well last year in situations where we needed like 8 yards or something. Shockey was even better though, he was amazing last year on like 3rd and long or even 4th and long.

[Broken Parachute]

sinorice moss would fit in well as a deep threat there, IMO.

Yeah you're right..actually, I think we could use any WR in the first round. Burress and Shockey are our only threatening recievers. Toomer is still there but I don't consider him a threat. He's getting older (in football years).

[zizou1790]

i don't think bing will be around for us to take him. the safety from penn state should be around in the second or third round, he'd be a great pickup. nice complement to polamalu.

they need a playmaking receiver to use as a deep threat. and preferably somebody who return kicks. center is also a need.

although, if bobby carpenter is around at 32, and sinorice moss, lendale white or bing are all gone, i think that's where their pick goes.

yeah i would just love to see polamalu and bing in the secondary that could be devestating to opponents at center we have hartings who may only have one season left but we have okobi ready to take over

[FondestMemory]

yeah i would just love to see polamalu and bing in the secondary that could be devestating to opponents at center we have hartings who may only have one season left but we have okobi ready to take over

true, but with as few major holes to fill this year, if there's a quality center, no reason not to take him as okobi's backup from next year on. that's just one position i don't want them to pass on if there's quality available. ya never know what needs there will be next year and what will be available.

so i guess it's not really a need, but a safe choice that i'd like to see them sure up.

[smokedsanity]

They have more immediate needs, but I wish that the Saints would take Leinart.

[Vincewithouthee]

Steelers fans: Look for the Steelers to trade up their pick. I really think they will in the first or second round. They won't trade up too high, maybe 5-7 picks higher than 32/64.

I'd love to have either Lendale White, Bing, Jason Allen, Carpenter, etc. We need a punt returner and center but we can get effective ones in the later rounds, same with a WR (I think we should get one in the second round)

[zizou1790]

Steelers fans: Look for the Steelers to trade up their pick. I really think they will in the first or second round. They won't trade up too high, maybe 5-7 picks higher than 32/64.

I'd love to have either Lendale White, Bing, Jason Allen, Carpenter, etc. We need a punt returner and center but we can get effective ones in the later rounds, same with a WR (I think we should get one in the second round)

i like your thinking and im definatly agreeing a center is crucial but i dont think we need one in this years draft but hey if we take one id be cool with it

[xearlynovemberx]

Since the Giants are about to pickup Arrington, we need another WR and a good CB or Saftey. I would love to have Santonio Holmes (WR, Ohio State) but I don't know if he'll fall to the late first round.

another lb could never hurt but i think they might draft a rb behind tiki id love lendale white but he wont be there

[FondestMemory]

another lb could never hurt but i think they might draft a rb behind tiki id love lendale white but he wont be there

lendale will be around. but they just drafted a rb last year. i don't see them going after another one, especially in the first round.

[Broken Parachute]

Yeah we have Brandon Jacobs from last year. He's going to be a monster once he learns to lower his shoulders..last year he was like a truck going through the middle on 3rd and short conversions. We need a WR to backup Toomer and Burress or a solid Corner/Saftey for the defense.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Bills needs:

LT, LG, DT, backup FS, SS, 3rd/4th CB.

[Goodbye Forever]

Jets Needs:

QB, RB, WR, OT, OG, DT, DE, SS

They'll probably take Ferguson at #4, unless they trade up, and the White, Maroney or Williams (who I want) at 29.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Jets Needs:

QB, RB, WR, OT, OG, DT, DE, SS

They'll probably take Ferguson at #4, unless they trade up, and the White, Maroney or Williams (who I want) at 29.
Williams SHOULD be gone by #29. I wouldn't be surprised to see Maroney at #29 though.

[Goodbye Forever]

Yeah, I figure Williams will be gone, but he's been going pretty late in the first in most mocks I've seen.

[lanolynn]

the titans pick should be interetsing. the gm wants young and the coaches want leinhart. i hope the coaches win out.

[Trainsaw]

Bills needs:

LT, LG, DT, backup FS, Miracle, SS, 3rd/4th CB.
fixed.

[LostSymphonies]

steelers will end up with Sinorice Moss at some point

[sweethypocrisy]

fixed.
hahahahaha

[zizou1790]

steelers will end up with Sinorice Moss at some point

i really hope they dont take him in the first round

[itsjdiggity]

I hope the Titans get:
1. Leinart
2. D'Brick
3. Mario

[YouMadeTheScene]

Texans-Bush
NO-Mario Williams
Ten-Leinart
Jets-Ferguson
Packers-Hawk
49ers-Davis
Raiders-Young
Bills-Brodrick Bunkley
Lions-Cutler
Cardinals-Young
Rams-Michael Huff
Cleveland-Winston Justice
Ravens-Jimmy Williams
Eagles-Ernie Simms
Denver-Santonio Holmes
Miami-Chad Jackson
Minnesota-Chad Greenway
Cowboys-Haloti Ngata
Chargers-Antonio Cromartie
KC-Manny Lawson
NE-Kamerion Wimbley
San Fran-Demarco Ryans
TB-Sincore Moss
Bengals-Tye Hill
Giants-Donte Winter
Bears-Richard Marshall
Panthers-DeAngelo Williams
Jaguars-Laurence Maroney
Jets-Lendale White
Colts-Jonathan Joseph
Seattle-Kelly Jennings
Pitt-Donte Whitner


thats my first round.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

fixed.
PWNED.

I am fully aware that the Bills are at least 2 seasons away from being serious competitiors (AGAIN)

So Tom Donahoe, fuck you, for wasting 5 years of my life.

[YouMadeTheScene]

PWNED.

I am fully aware that the Bills are at least 2 seasons away from being serious competitiors (AGAIN)

So Tom Donahoe, fuck you, for wasting 5 years of my life.

Saddest of all is I think they are going to draft Brodrick Bunkley who is the next Dewayne Robertson.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Saddest of all is I think they are going to draft Brodrick Bunkley who is the next Dewayne Robertson.
No way. Winston Justice, or trade down.

[YouMadeTheScene]

No way. Winston Justice, or trade down.

The thing is that I think that it's easier to get a OT in the later rounds than a DT. They need defensive help up the middle to open up things for their LBs. Brodrick Bunkley is a hot prospect right now, and I think they will pass on Justice.

[YouMadeTheScene]

Not to mention they got burnt by Mike Williams so selecting a OT first again, if he doesn't work out shiteth will hit the faneth

[xearlynovemberx]

maybe the g iants will draft winston justic if hes still around but its not happening

[YouMadeTheScene]

maybe the g iants will draft winston justic if hes still around but its not happening

They're better of picking up a Saftey in the 1st Round and picking up Marcus Neil (if he's around but I doubt it), Jonathan Scott, or Daryn Colledge. I think Colledge is the best fit for them, and the one they have the best shot at getting.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

The Bills have a different GM now. The new guys aren't going to be like "Well shit, the old regime got burnt by picking an OT in the 1st round, let's do something else and let JP Losman get smashed into the ground more than David Carr again this year!"

They need to go O-line Round 1, D-line Round 2, O-Line (LG) and Secondary (FS/CB) in the 3rd round.

[itsjdiggity]

B)

[YouMadeTheScene]

The Bills have a different GM now. The new guys aren't going to be like "Well shit, the old regime got burnt by picking an OT in the 1st round, let's do something else and let JP Losman get smashed into the ground more than David Carr again this year!"

They need to go O-line Round 1, D-line Round 2, O-Line (LG) and Secondary (FS/CB) in the 3rd round.

You're thinking to much in the first round. If they pick a O-Lineman in the first round they won't be able to get a real quality DT in the 2nd round. Whereas if they pick a top DT in the 1st round they can wait till the 2nd round to pick up one of the 5 other OT out there not named Winston Justice or D'BRickshaw Ferguson. Outside of Ngata or Bunkley there isn't a real good DT prospect.

[xearlynovemberx]

They're better of picking up a Saftey in the 1st Round and picking up Marcus Neil (if he's around but I doubt it), Jonathan Scott, or Daryn Colledge. I think Colledge is the best fit for them, and the one they have the best shot at getting.

why would they draft another saftey? i mean yeah incase of injuries but wilson and demps are pretty young guys

[zizou1790]

Texans-Bush
NO-Mario Williams
Ten-Leinart
Jets-Ferguson
Packers-Hawk
49ers-Davis
Raiders-Young
Bills-Brodrick Bunkley
Lions-Cutler
Cardinals-Young
Rams-Michael Huff
Cleveland-Winston Justice
Ravens-Jimmy Williams
Eagles-Ernie Simms
Denver-Santonio Holmes
Miami-Chad Jackson
Minnesota-Chad Greenway
Cowboys-Haloti Ngata
Chargers-Antonio Cromartie
KC-Manny Lawson
NE-Kamerion Wimbley
San Fran-Demarco Ryans
TB-Sincore Moss
Bengals-Tye Hill
Giants-Donte Winter
Bears-Richard Marshall
Panthers-DeAngelo Williams
Jaguars-Laurence Maroney
Jets-Lendale White
Colts-Jonathan Joseph
Seattle-Kelly Jennings
Pitt-Donte Whitner


thats my first round.


very intresting i have never even heard of bunkley though

[Jesse2]

PWNED.

I am fully aware that the Bills are at least 2 seasons away from being serious competitiors (AGAIN)

So Tom Donahoe, fuck you, for wasting 5 years of my life.

it's so hard to not just give up on buffalo. it's to the point now where i can't even imagine them being good again.

[Trainsaw]

PWNED.

I am fully aware that the Bills are at least 2 seasons away from being serious competitiors (AGAIN)

So Tom Donahoe, fuck you, for wasting 5 years of my life.
haha who do they have as their QB at this time?

[selftitled85]

sinorice moss would fit in well as a deep threat there, IMO.


this is who im hoping the giants pick up if the osu wr is gone by then.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

haha who do they have as their QB at this time?
There's a "competition" between JP Losman, and career backups Craig Nall and Kelly Holcomb.

Really, what it boils down to is having 2 veteran QB's there to push Losman and light a fire under his ass.

....But none of the 3 of them are going to do anything behind their Revolving Door of an O-line.

....And Kelly Holcomb will be cut by the end of training camp. The new O-coordinator wants to throw the deep ball. Kelly Holcomb's "deep ball" is 30 yards. With a strong wind at his back.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

You're thinking to much in the first round. If they pick a O-Lineman in the first round they won't be able to get a real quality DT in the 2nd round. Whereas if they pick a top DT in the 1st round they can wait till the 2nd round to pick up one of the 5 other OT out there not named Winston Justice or D'BRickshaw Ferguson. Outside of Ngata or Bunkley there isn't a real good DT prospect.
We don't need an "elite" DT. We need a complementary DT. Our pass rushing, one-gap DT is Larry Tripplett, and it's yet to be seen if Tim Anderson can be a better run stuffer in the new defensive scheme.

Regardless of how Anderson turns out, we need another run-stuffer DT, but not an elite one, so a Round 2 pick, like John McCargo or Rodrique Wright, would be fine.

On the other hand, we DO need a great LT, but I wouldn't complain if we ended up with Jon Scott, Eric Winston, or someone else in the 2nd round.

Shit, maybe they'll surprise everyone and draft Michael Huff at #8; I really have no idea.

It's a new regime, and there's so many holes to fill, they can fill ANY of them in ANY round on the 1st day.

[bigmike]

The Detroit Lions need to take Michael Huff if he's on the board still at 9 (i think he will be). And if they don't they're a much bigger joke of a fucking franchise than I ever thought. And if they take a wide receiever in any of the first 3 rounds, they are absolutely retarded with no clue of how to build a franchise.

[FondestMemory]

The Detroit Lions need to take Michael Huff if he's on the board still at 9 (i think he will be). And if they don't they're a much bigger joke of a fucking franchise than I ever thought. And if they take a wide receiever in any of the first 3 rounds, they are absolutely retarded with no clue of how to build a franchise.

huff's gonna be a beast.

and for that reason, i don't see the lions taking him. only because it'd be a good pick.

i swear to god, and i'm not even a lions fan, if they take cutler with that pick they shouldn't be allowed another draft pick for 10 years.

[bigmike]

huff's gonna be a beast.

and for that reason, i don't see the lions taking him. only because it'd be a good pick.

i swear to god, and i'm not even a lions fan, if they take cutler with that pick they shouldn't be allowed another draft pick for 10 years.
if they take jay cutler, chad jackson, or santonio holmes with that pick they should burn down ford field, sell the team, and hang william clay ford, jr.

[sweethypocrisy]

if they take jay cutler, chad jackson, or santonio holmes with that pick they should burn down ford field, sell the team, and hang william clay ford, jr.
hahahahaha

[Vincewithouthee]

As a Steelers fan, I don't want Moss. We don't need him, he's overrated and can get better needs at that pick.

[Broken Parachute]

1) Reggie Bush, RB (Houston)
2) Mario Williams, DE (New Orleans)
3) Vince Young, QB (Tennessee)
4) D'Brickishaw Furgison, OL (NY Jets)
5) AJ Hawk, LB (Green Bay)
6) Vernon Davis, TE (San Fransisco)
7) Matt Leinart, QB (Oakland)
8 ) Michael Huff, DB (Buffalo)
9) Winston Justice, OL (Detroit)
10) Jay Cutler, QB (Arizona)
11) Ernie Sims, DB (St. Louis)
12) Kamerion Wimbley, DE (Cleveland)
13) Broderick Bunkley, DT (Baltimore)
14) Chad Jackson, WR (Philadelphia)
15) Haloti Ngata, DT (Denver)
16) Manny Lawson, DE (Miami)
17) Donte Whitner, S (Minnesota)
18 ) Chad Greenway, LB (Dallas)
19) Jimmy Williams, DB (San Diego)
20) Santonio Holmes, WR (Kansas City)
21) Antonio Cromartie, CB (New England)
22) Mathias Kiwanuka, DE (San Fransisco)
23) Sinorice Moss, WR (Tampa Bay)
24) Bobby Carpenter, LB (Cincinnati)
25) Ashton Youboty, CB (Chicago)
26) Johnathan Joseph, CB (NY Giants)
27) Deangello Williams, RB (Carolina)
28 ) Nick Mangold, CB (Jacksonville)
29) Brodie Croyle, QB (NY Jets)
30) Laurence Maroney, RB (Indianapolis)
31) Tye Hill, CB (Seattle)
32) Lendale White, RB (Pittsburgh)

Somebody can tell me if I've made a stupid mistake or a dumb pick, not too good at this draft stuff.

[ides of march]

1) Reggie Bush, RB (Houston)
2) Vince Young, QB (New Orleans)
3) Mario Williams, DE(Tennessee)
4) D'Brickishaw Furgison, OL (NY Jets)
5) AJ Hawk, LB (Green Bay)
6) Vernon Davis, TE (San Fransisco)
7) Matt Leinart, QB (Oakland)
8 ) Michael Huff, DB (Buffalo)
9) Winston Justice, OL (Detroit)
10) Jay Cutler, QB (Arizona)
11) Ernie Sims, DB (St. Louis)
12) Kamerion Wimbley, DE (Cleveland)
13) Broderick Bunkley, DT (Baltimore)
14) Chad Jackson, WR (Philadelphia)
15) Haloti Ngata, DT (Denver)
16) Manny Lawson, DE (Miami)
17) Donte Whitner, S (Minnesota)
18 ) Chad Greenway, LB (Dallas)
19) Jimmy Williams, DB (San Diego)
20) Santonio Holmes, WR (Kansas City)
21) Antonio Cromartie, CB (New England)
22) Mathias Kiwanuka, DE (San Fransisco)
23) Sinorice Moss, WR (Tampa Bay)
24) Bobby Carpenter, LB (Cincinnati)
25) Ashton Youboty, CB (Chicago)
26) Johnathan Joseph, CB (NY Giants)
27) Deangello Williams, RB (Carolina)
28 ) Nick Mangold, CB (Jacksonville)
29) Brodie Croyle, QB (NY Jets)
30) Laurence Maroney, RB (Indianapolis)
31) Tye Hill, CB (Seattle)
32) Lendale White, RB (Pittsburgh)

Somebody can tell me if I've made a stupid mistake or a dumb pick, not too good at this draft stuff.
Yeah, Leinart's not gonna fall to 7th, Young probably will. Also, I really dont want to see Leinart at Tennessee, because I don't like their jerseys :aimtounge. Definetely gonna be a purchase for me.

[Broken Parachute]

Yeah, Leinart's not gonna fall to 7th, Young probably will. Also, I really dont want to see Leinart at Tennessee, because I don't like their jerseys :aimtounge

I was thinking about switching him and Vince Young once I saw Mel Kiper's mock draft. I still don't think Leinart is going to be an amazing NFL QB.

[FondestMemory]

I was thinking about switching him and Vince Young once I saw Mel Kiper's mock draft. I still don't think Leinart is going to be an amazing NFL QB.

either way, a qb isn't going second. mario williams will go to new orleans. then probably leinart at 3 and young at 7.

[xearlynovemberx]

1) Reggie Bush, RB (Houston)
2) Vince Young, QB (New Orleans)
3) Mario Williams, DE(Tennessee)
4) D'Brickishaw Furgison, OL (NY Jets)
5) AJ Hawk, LB (Green Bay)
6) Vernon Davis, TE (San Fransisco)
7) Matt Leinart, QB (Oakland)
8 ) Michael Huff, DB (Buffalo)
9) Winston Justice, OL (Detroit)
10) Jay Cutler, QB (Arizona)
11) Ernie Sims, DB (St. Louis)
12) Kamerion Wimbley, DE (Cleveland)
13) Broderick Bunkley, DT (Baltimore)
14) Chad Jackson, WR (Philadelphia)
15) Haloti Ngata, DT (Denver)
16) Manny Lawson, DE (Miami)
17) Donte Whitner, S (Minnesota)
18 ) Chad Greenway, LB (Dallas)
19) Jimmy Williams, DB (San Diego)
20) Santonio Holmes, WR (Kansas City)
21) Antonio Cromartie, CB (New England)
22) Mathias Kiwanuka, DE (San Fransisco)
23) Sinorice Moss, WR (Tampa Bay)
24) Bobby Carpenter, LB (Cincinnati)
25) Ashton Youboty, CB (Chicago)
26) Johnathan Joseph, CB (NY Giants)
27) Deangello Williams, RB (Carolina)
28 ) Nick Mangold, CB (Jacksonville)
29) Brodie Croyle, QB (NY Jets)
30) Laurence Maroney, RB (Indianapolis)
31) Tye Hill, CB (Seattle)
32) Lendale White, RB (Pittsburgh)

Somebody can tell me if I've made a stupid mistake or a dumb pick, not too good at this draft stuff.

sims is a lb;) but ill let it slip cuz i like you! and i dont think the giants are going to take a db its gunna be between deangelo williams and sinorce moss or eric winston

[bigmike]

1) Reggie Bush, RB (Houston)
2) Vince Young, QB (New Orleans)
3) Mario Williams, DE(Tennessee)
4) D'Brickishaw Furgison, OL (NY Jets)
5) AJ Hawk, LB (Green Bay)
6) Vernon Davis, TE (San Fransisco)
7) Matt Leinart, QB (Oakland)
8 ) Michael Huff, DB (Buffalo)
9) Winston Justice, OL (Detroit)
10) Jay Cutler, QB (Arizona)
11) Ernie Sims, DB (St. Louis)
12) Kamerion Wimbley, DE (Cleveland)
13) Broderick Bunkley, DT (Baltimore)
14) Chad Jackson, WR (Philadelphia)
15) Haloti Ngata, DT (Denver)
16) Manny Lawson, DE (Miami)
17) Donte Whitner, S (Minnesota)
18 ) Chad Greenway, LB (Dallas)
19) Jimmy Williams, DB (San Diego)
20) Santonio Holmes, WR (Kansas City)
21) Antonio Cromartie, CB (New England)
22) Mathias Kiwanuka, DE (San Fransisco)
23) Sinorice Moss, WR (Tampa Bay)
24) Bobby Carpenter, LB (Cincinnati)
25) Ashton Youboty, CB (Chicago)
26) Johnathan Joseph, CB (NY Giants)
27) Deangello Williams, RB (Carolina)
28 ) Nick Mangold, CB (Jacksonville)
29) Brodie Croyle, QB (NY Jets)
30) Laurence Maroney, RB (Indianapolis)
31) Tye Hill, CB (Seattle)
32) Lendale White, RB (Pittsburgh)

Somebody can tell me if I've made a stupid mistake or a dumb pick, not too good at this draft stuff.

ah, you messed up. You have detroit selecting something that would actually help solidify one of their needs. that's not going to happen.

[Broken Parachute]

sims is a lb;) but ill let it slip cuz i like you! and i dont think the giants are going to take a db its gunna be between deangelo williams and sinorce moss or eric winston

Oops. Must be a type because I actually do know Sims is a LB. Oh well..I actually confused myself alot because I listed some picks in the wrong order, so I had to fix it I mighta messed up there.

[Broken Parachute]

ah, you messed up. You have detroit selecting something that would actually help solidify one of their needs. that's not going to happen.

Yeah, I'll change that. Here's some possibilities for their first rounder..

Pick #9: Detroit Lions
Santonio Holmes, WR
Chad Jackson, WR
Sinorice Moss, WR

That sound about right?

[Broken Parachute]

either way, a qb isn't going second. mario williams will go to new orleans. then probably leinart at 3 and young at 7.

I made the same mistake I made on my first mock draft, I forgot New Orleans got Brees.

[bigmike]

Yeah, I'll change that. Here's some possibilities for their first rounder..

Pick #9: Detroit Lions
Santonio Holmes, WR
Chad Jackson, WR
Sinorice Moss, WR

That sound about right?
yeah, that's probably about right. although, i don't know what they're going to do with no WR that's been out of competitive football for a year with questionable work ethic and is overweight to take at #9 (mike williams, i'm looking at you).

[xearlynovemberx]

yeah, that's probably about right. although, i don't know what they're going to do with no WR that's been out of competitive football for a year with questionable work ethic and is overweight to take at #9 (mike williams, i'm looking at you).

hahahah

[GoWaitInTheCar]

STEELERS DRAFT PICK THOUGHTS.

I want to see The Steelers pick up Michael Robinson from PSU. He's a perfect fill it for Randle El.

As for talks of The Steelers drafting another safety early? What? I'm not seeing why. Sure, Hope is gone. But we've gotta build our D-Line back up.

And whoever said draft another running back, please stfu. The Steelers always are clumsy with their draft of a running back. The past there have been middle of the pack RBs who are just "okay" Willie Parker obviously stepped it up and though Duce is injury proned, he's a good back up. Now that the bus retired it's time to hop on "The Roadrunner"

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I'd love to see The Steelers surpise everyone and trade away a couple high picks to get an experienced WR. I wanted them to pick up on David Givens and/or Joe Jurevicious.

The Browns may be a better team then anyone is thinking. They've got some good free agents and their spot in the first round draft is high.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

sims is a lb;) but ill let it slip cuz i like you! and i dont think the giants are going to take a db its gunna be between deangelo williams and sinorce moss or eric winston

Chad Jackson is my boy. I hope he does well, I like what he brings to the field. Hard worker, indeed.

[FondestMemory]

STEELERS DRAFT PICK THOUGHTS.

I want to see The Steelers pick up Michael Robinson from PSU. He's a perfect fill it for Randle El.

As for talks of The Steelers drafting another safety early? What? I'm not seeing why. Sure, Hope is gone. But we've gotta build our D-Line back up.

And whoever said draft another running back, please stfu. The Steelers always are clumsy with their draft of a running back. The past there have been middle of the pack RBs who are just "okay" Willie Parker obviously stepped it up and though Duce is injury proned, he's a good back up. Now that the bus retired it's time to hop on "The Roadrunner"

i disagree about robinson. there's no telling how he'll be as a wide receiver, if they're gonna fill that hole, i'd rather somebody who's proven they know what they're doing. also, it'd be nice to pick up a receiver who can also return kicks. plus, unless he changed his mind, he was pretty stubborn about only wanting to play qb.

agree d-line needs built up. but if a top safety is available, it'd be a smart pick. i think second or third round there'll be a good one, but if allen or bing are available, which they won't be, i'd like to see one of them in black and gold. d-line can be built up in later rounds. with that linebacking corps and the scheme, average talent can play above their potential. and as poor as the pass defense was last year, especially on 3rd down, i'd rather work on fixing that first. if a playmaking free safety is there, passing on him would be ridiculous.

and for the running back, i agree it's not the smartest choice. but if lendale white slips that far, i wouldn't complain if they took him. he'd have a year to get healthy and learn the game playing behind willie and duce. duce probably won't be around after next year, so you'd already have his replacement. and it would just happen to be a replacement that fits the style perfectly and is a great power complement to willie's speed.

but shit, they've done so well the past few years, and they know way more than either of us, so i'm trusting them completely. i just wish it were the weekend already.

[histrionics22]

Yea but the 3-4 doesnt require beasts like Mario Williams on the d-line. We just need big bodies to clog the line and let our linebackers run free. A guy could be drafted late and fill that role fine. Hell Kiesel will probably flourish in Von Oelhoffen's role.

[histrionics22]

and for the running back, i agree it's not the smartest choice. but if lendale white slips that far, i wouldn't complain if they took him. he'd have a year to get healthy and learn the game playing behind willie and duce. duce probably won't be around after next year, so you'd already have his replacement. and it would just happen to be a replacement that fits the style perfectly and is a great power complement to willie's speed.

but shit, they've done so well the past few years, and they know way more than either of us, so i'm trusting them completely. i just wish it were the weekend already.

I'm so anti-Lendale is ridiculous. I just dont see him helping. It would hurt Willie with him there. Chances are we take another 2nd rounnd LB or a DE and convert him. As for the 1st round, who knows. I'm not really worried about who we draft. I'm more worried about teaching the guys like Starks and Harrison how to play. Harrison is our best linebacker right now and he wont be starting.

[FondestMemory]

I'm so anti-Lendale is ridiculous. I just dont see him helping. It would hurt Willie with him there. Chances are we take another 2nd rounnd LB or a DE and convert him. As for the 1st round, who knows. I'm not really worried about who we draft. I'm more worried about teaching the guys like Starks and Harrison how to play. Harrison is our best linebacker right now and he wont be starting.

i don't see him helping much this year. but i think in the long run it'd be a great pick. i don't think it'd hurt willie at all. willie's not a 25-30 carry a game back. he's more 15-20. having a back like lendale will help willie more than anything.

i wouldn't be surprised to see carpenter though, just to add more depth at lb.

i just hope cb gets tightened up. there's talent there. they just need to consistently play with their heads out of their asses.

[bigmike]

Yea but the 3-4 doesnt require beasts like Mario Williams on the d-line. We just need big bodies to clog the line and let our linebackers run free. A guy could be drafted late and fill that role fine. Hell Kiesel will probably flourish in Von Oelhoffen's role.
i'm still confused as to this infatuation with mario williams. he was inconsistent in college and didn't really dominate much at all. i have a feeling this could be a whole lot of hype for a mediocre defensive lineman.

[FondestMemory]

i'm still confused as to this infatuation with mario williams. he was inconsistent in college and didn't really dominate much at all. i have a feeling this could be a whole lot of hype for a mediocre defensive lineman.

i disagree. i think he's gonna make an immediate impact and be a great player right away.

[bigmike]

i disagree. i think he's gonna make an immediate impact and be a great player right away.
he was hardly an impact player at NC State. he made some plays then would completely disappear for quarters at a time. how does this translate to dominating in the NFL? then people want to claim that reggie bush, who did dominate every time he touched the ball in college, can't be a very special player in the NFL.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

but shit, they've done so well the past few years, and they know way more than either of us, so i'm trusting them completely. i just wish it were the weekend already.

You couldn't of said it better.

But one thing we both had to admit, we've gotten lucky and luck may have got us to The Super Bowl.

But hell, I'm a huge Steelers fan. I am still very excited for their victory this year. It ment a lot to me.

[Vincewithouthee]

http://www.draftstock.com/

That site mocked the full draft. Real interesting.

That's one of the best (free) draft coverage sites too, check it out if you haven't.

[Broken Parachute]

http://www.draftstock.com/

That site mocked the full draft. Real interesting.

That's one of the best (free) draft coverage sites too, check it out if you haven't.

Wow they have AJ Hawk going to New Orleans and DaBrick going to the Bay.

This is really a very good mock draft. They're right about the Giants needing a good Olineman.

[LeftWideOpen]

http://www.draftstock.com/

That site mocked the full draft. Real interesting.

That's one of the best (free) draft coverage sites too, check it out if you haven't.

A.J Hawk at #2? Whoa. Jets seem like they prefer Ferguson to Williams, too. Besides those two, I like the Top 20 a lot. I don't think the Pats go w/ a RB like a lot of mock drafts are predicting though ...it'll be a CB or LB, almost for sure. Jonathan Joseph or Bobby Carpenter seem like the most likely.

[Broken Parachute]

I hope Nick Mangold hangs around early second round. If the Jets could steal him second round , they replace Kevin Mawae for this year. I like them getting Laurence Maroney. Even if they miss out on Maroney, they can pickup Maurice Drew 2nd or 3rd round.

[LeftWideOpen]

also, if Richard Marshall fell all the way to the Pats in Round 2, I think I'd flip my shit. He's been rumored as a possibility for the 1st rounder, so to take him one full round later would be huge. That seems like it'd make a Bobby Carpenter selection even more likely w/ 21.

[Broken Parachute]

also, if Richard Marshall fell all the way to the Pats in Round 2, I think I'd flip my shit. He's been rumored as a possibility for the 1st rounder, so to take him one full round later would be huge. That seems like it'd make a Bobby Carpenter selection even more likely w/ 21.
Bobby Carpenter is going to hang around for awhile. NE can get him. They might want Antonio Cromartie though, since they need a Corner.

[FondestMemory]

i don't like most of what they're doing with the steelers.

they have them passing on jason allen and whitner. i'd kill for either one of those if they're available.

although, i would love to see them get brad smith. he's a youngstown boy. he'll be a better qb to wr than michael robinson. actually, he'll probably make that transistion better than anybody else in the draft attmepting that. dude's crazy athletic.

[Broken Parachute]

i don't like most of what they're doing with the steelers.

they have them passing on jason allen and whitner. i'd kill for either one of those if they're available.

although, i would love to see them get brad smith. he's a youngstown boy. he'll be a better qb to wr than michael robinson. actually, he'll probably make that transistion better than anybody else in the draft attmepting that. dude's crazy athletic.

What's funny about this draft is the whole first round is so solid, even with their pick the Steelers can get someone great and it'll be considered a steal. What about Lendale White?

[Vincewithouthee]

i don't like most of what they're doing with the steelers.

they have them passing on jason allen and whitner. i'd kill for either one of those if they're available.

although, i would love to see them get brad smith. he's a youngstown boy. he'll be a better qb to wr than michael robinson. actually, he'll probably make that transistion better than anybody else in the draft attmepting that. dude's crazy athletic.

Yeah I agree with that. Every other team seems right though.

Steelers are gonna draft well, I'm not worried about it.

[bigmike]

haha, cleveland taking gabe watson from michigan at #43. that's good shit. another lazy defensive lineman that's a head case. he'll fit right in.

I'm not sold on the validity of this site considering they have Greg Jennings going in the 3rd round, #81 to San Diego, then have Greg Jennings going again at pick #85 to Kansas City....

[FondestMemory]

What's funny about this draft is the whole first round is so solid, even with their pick the Steelers can get someone great and it'll be considered a steal. What about Lendale White?

if he's there, i wouldn't be surprised if they take him. i wouldn't complain too much. but if they pass up allen or whitner to take him, that may upset me a bit. it's all up in the air whether he'll be there or not. carolina wouldn't surprise me if they picked him up.

[bigmike]

and what the fuck? the lions drafting Kiwanuka from BC with their 2nd round pick?

1.) That's completely retarded.
2.) That's completely possible.

[LeftWideOpen]

haha, cleveland taking gabe watson from michigan at #43. that's good shit. another lazy defensive lineman that's a head case. he'll fit right in.

I'm not sold on the validity of this site considering they have Greg Jennings going in the 3rd round, #81 to San Diego, then have Greg Jennings going again at pick #85 to Kansas City....

they have kiwanuka going to the lions in the 2nd. trust me ..after watching up close, you should be siked if that ends up happening. If he stays in one piece, he's going to be a star.

[bigmike]

they have kiwanuka going to the lions in the 2nd. trust me ..after watching up close, you should be siked if that ends up happening. If he stays in one piece, he's going to be a star.
defensive line is the only thing on this entire team besides Punter that we can get by on. james hall, kalimba edwards, dan wilkinson, shaun rogers, etc etc. we don't need another d-lineman.

The mock draft also has them taking 1 o-lineman the entire draft? if they do this i'll seriously quit watching the detroit lions.

[LeftWideOpen]

defensive line is the only thing on this entire team besides Punter that we can get by on. james hall, kalimba edwards, dan wilkinson, shaun rogers, etc etc. we don't need another d-lineman.

The mock draft also has them taking 1 o-lineman the entire draft? if they do this i'll seriously quit watching the detroit lions.

understandable ...kiwanuka really does have a hugeee upside though. he's also a risk because of his health issues and the fact that's he's smallish, but so is freeney ...

I think Kiwi will be off the board a little before the Lions anyway. My guess is that he winds up in a Jet or Packers uni.

[bigmike]

understandable ...kiwanuka really does have a hugeee upside though. he's also a risk because of his health issues and the fact that's he's smallish, but so is freeney ...

I think Kiwi will be off the board a little before the Lions anyway. My guess is that he winds up in a Jet or Packers uni.
granted you've seen him a ton more than i have. but i don't think the guy will be anything close to freeney.

much like all the people saying mario williams is the next julius peppers is wrong. peppers could at least take over games when he played college.

Edit: however, just because i don't liek the move, basically ensures that it's exactly what's going to happen. I mean, who wants to sure up an o-line when you can grab 35 more d-linemen and field them all as you're starting 11 on defense. this is a joke of an nfl franchise. the draft hasn't started and i hate our picks already.

[derricklc22]

granted you've seen him a ton more than i have. but i don't think the guy will be anything close to freeney.

much like all the people saying mario williams is the next julius peppers is wrong. peppers could at least take over games when he played college.

Edit: however, just because i don't liek the move, basically ensures that it's exactly what's going to happen. I mean, who wants to sure up an o-line when you can grab 35 more d-linemen and field them all as you're starting 11 on defense. this is a joke of an nfl franchise. the draft hasn't started and i hate our picks already.
I think Kiwi will be decent sack specialist, but I dont think he'll be a star. Good rotational D End. He probably wont be able to hold against the run, in my opinion. You never can tell though not until you see em in real action.

Also, about M. Williams, he dominated the last half of his sr. season. He said the reason it took awhile is because "he was learning how to avoid the chop block better and figured a way around it", at that time his sack numbers went up vastly He is going to be the best defensive player taken in the draft, in my opinion.

[Vincewithouthee]

SC's NFL Draft Special Mock Draft (1st round) was real interesting. They have LenDale White falling to the Steelers. I'd love to see that.

So does ESPN.com
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2423861

I'd love to see that happen.

[derricklc22]

SC's NFL Draft Special Mock Draft (1st round) was real interesting. They have LenDale White falling to the Steelers. I'd love to see that.

So does ESPN.com
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2423861

I'd love to see that happen.
I think it would be a great pick for the Steelers. He'd fill the hole that is leftover from Bettis.

I think he will get to them too because the other teams wanting running back all want the smaller style. For example, Colts will want a smaller back D. Williams or L. Marhoney. I think The Jags may take White though but if not I hope the Steelers get him.

[FondestMemory]

SC's NFL Draft Special Mock Draft (1st round) was real interesting. They have LenDale White falling to the Steelers. I'd love to see that.

So does ESPN.com
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2423861

I'd love to see that happen.

i wouldn't complain if they can get white there, but i don't wanna see them pass up darnell bing, whitner or jason allen if any of them are available.

i'm happy with our running backs at the moment, i'm more concerned about the secondary.

[Vincewithouthee]

i wouldn't complain if they can get white there, but i don't wanna see them pass up darnell bing, whitner or jason allen if any of them are available.

i'm happy with our running backs at the moment, i'm more concerned about the secondary.

I can easily see us trading up in the 2nd round if we do get White. I think Bing will still be around in the 2nd round, so it's possible that we can get him.

I agree to an extent with you though, but I'm still a little worried about our RBs. I think Parker will improve, but he can't handle the full load. Plus we need a power runner, and I'm not a Duce fan and he's going to be our power runner. Haynes can't do it. He is one of the best 3rd down backs in the league though.

Ryan Clark will probably be fine for a year as a FS. But anyone we could get in the 1st round would be better than him, but I think he's fine.

[Vincewithouthee]

I think it would be a great pick for the Steelers. He'd fill the hole that is leftover from Bettis.

I think he will get to them too because the other teams wanting running back all want the smaller style. For example, Colts will want a smaller back D. Williams or L. Marhoney. I think The Jags may take White though but if not I hope the Steelers get him.

Yeah any of that can happen. I think the whole bottom part of the draft is going to do a lot with Denver's pick. If they take a RB or a WR, it affects the whole draft. I hope they go WR.

[YouMadeTheScene]

understandable ...kiwanuka really does have a hugeee upside though. he's also a risk because of his health issues and the fact that's he's smallish, but so is freeney ...

I think Kiwi will be off the board a little before the Lions anyway. My guess is that he winds up in a Jet or Packers uni.

Smallish? He's 6'6" 266 pounds. He has a lot of room to add more weight, and should get up to around 275 I think. The only thing wrong with him are his technique.

[derricklc22]

Yeah any of that can happen. I think the whole bottom part of the draft is going to do a lot with Denver's pick. If they take a RB or a WR, it affects the whole draft. I hope they go WR.
I would bet Denver will go WR if they dont swing a trade for Javon Walker(which i'm praying my team philly does). Denver should end up taking Chad Jackson or Santion Holmes( who I think is the better of the two).

The Steelers build extremely well through the draft. If I was them I'd also try to get Jeremy Bloom( KR/WR) from Colorado. He would replace what they lost in Randle El. On a side note, how stupid is Washington for paying a 3rd WR/KR 31 million? Unjustified? He is good at what he does but not at that price.

I want the Eagles to get Broderick Bunkley but they will probably have to trade up to get him becasue Buffalo is wanting a DT pretty bad.

[derricklc22]

I would bet Denver will go WR if they dont swing a trade for Javon Walker(which i'm praying my team philly does). Denver should end up taking Chad Jackson or Santion Holmes( who I think is the better of the two).

The Steelers build extremely well through the draft. If I was them I'd also try to get Jeremy Bloom( KR/WR) from Colorado. He would replace what they lost in Randle El. On a side note, how stupid is Washington for paying a 3rd WR/KR 31 million? Unjustified? He is good at what he does but not at that price.

I want the Eagles to get Broderick Bunkley but they will probably have to trade up to get him becasue Buffalo is wanting a DT pretty bad.
Also, Deven WILL NOT draft a RB that high. It'd be totally unlike M. Shannhan. Look at the backs that have been through there the past 5 years. He is cocky and for good reason. His cut block scheme can make almost any RB look good.

They have Tatum Bell, i'd look for Denver to spend a 3rd or 4th rounder on a "bigger" back.

[FondestMemory]

I can easily see us trading up in the 2nd round if we do get White. I think Bing will still be around in the 2nd round, so it's possible that we can get him.

I agree to an extent with you though, but I'm still a little worried about our RBs. I think Parker will improve, but he can't handle the full load. Plus we need a power runner, and I'm not a Duce fan and he's going to be our power runner. Haynes can't do it. He is one of the best 3rd down backs in the league though.

Ryan Clark will probably be fine for a year as a FS. But anyone we could get in the 1st round would be better than him, but I think he's fine.

white's a complete steal at 32, so i understand not being able to pass him up. i think duce will be alright for a year. which works out for everybody. he can then be eased in.

but there are three phenominal players that can step in and start immediately at free safety that may be around. if they can trade up and grab one, that'd be fine by me. there's just no telling what talent is gonna be there when it's a desperate need, so i'd rather them be safe and take one of the great talents this year.

it may end up being a non-issues anyways, cause i wouldn't be surprised one bit if white doesn't make it past carolina's first round pick. that'd make life a lot easier for the steelers. however, i won't complain if he's in black and gold.

[bigmike]

I think Kiwi will be decent sack specialist, but I dont think he'll be a star. Good rotational D End. He probably wont be able to hold against the run, in my opinion. You never can tell though not until you see em in real action.

Also, about M. Williams, he dominated the last half of his sr. season. He said the reason it took awhile is because "he was learning how to avoid the chop block better and figured a way around it", at that time his sack numbers went up vastly He is going to be the best defensive player taken in the draft, in my opinion.
if it takes him 4 years to figure out how to get around college blockers, then he'll struggle with NFL o-lineman. I'm not say he can't be good, because he very well could be. but he's in no way the same league as Julius Peppers, imo.

[bigmike]

also, it's good to see that there's two western michigan broncos being drafted (greg jennings, who'se 4th on Mel Kipers WR list and Tony Scheffler who can and will be a serviceable TE), in addition to jennings, who's from kalamazoo, his high school teammate and running back Jerome Harrison will be drafted too. he only averaged 50 more rushing yards than reggie bush and was up for the Doak Walker Award. he's a sleeper in the middle round because of his small size, but he'll be very solid in the nfl.

[LeftWideOpen]

I think the Packers are in an interesting position for tomorrow ....

Word is that NO is keeping the pick and selecting Bush. With that being considered a done deal, I'm expecting the next two choices to go like this ..

3. Vince Young, TEN
4. Matt Leinart, NYJ

So, what do the Packers do at #5? Do they take Hawk or Ferguson? I think the smart money is on Ferguson, but they've seemed content w/ Hawk all along. This could be a very interesting dilemma they are faced with.

[bigmike]

I think the Packers are in an interesting position for tomorrow ....

Word is that NO is keeping the pick and selecting Bush. With that being considered a done deal, I'm expecting the next two choices to go like this ..

3. Vince Young, TEN
4. Matt Leinart, NYJ

So, what do the Packers do at #5? Do they take Hawk or Ferguson? I think the smart money is on Ferguson, but they've seemed content w/ Hawk all along. This could be a very interesting dilemma they are faced with.
i'm not sold on vince young in tennessee. i don't know why they'd let it leak out if that's who they were picking. besides, if norm chow has anything to do with it, wouldn't he want leinart, someone who's ran a pro style offense and more importantly, ran a norm chow pro styled offense? Leinart will develope more quickly than young (who i don't think will develope.... andre ware anyone?) and they'll need someone to step in for mcnair since he appears on his way out.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

i'm not sold on vince young in tennessee. i don't know why they'd let it leak out if that's who they were picking. besides, if norm chow has anything to do with it, wouldn't he want leinart, someone who's ran a pro style offense and more importantly, ran a norm chow pro styled offense? Leinart will develope more quickly than young (who i don't think will develope.... andre ware anyone?) and they'll need someone to step in for mcnair since he appears on his way out.
Rumor has it that the front office wants Young, and the coaching staff wants Leinart.

Last year, the coaches didn't want Pac-Man Jones, but the front office trumped them. Maybe this time, they go the other way around?

[LeftWideOpen]

i'm not sold on vince young in tennessee. i don't know why they'd let it leak out if that's who they were picking. besides, if norm chow has anything to do with it, wouldn't he want leinart, someone who's ran a pro style offense and more importantly, ran a norm chow pro styled offense? Leinart will develope more quickly than young (who i don't think will develope.... andre ware anyone?) and they'll need someone to step in for mcnair since he appears on his way out.

well apparently there's a power struggle between ownership and the coaching staff. i buy into it too, because the owner wants the guy who will sell more tickets (young). since he's signing the checks, I think young will end up there.

Personally, I'd pick Leinart because I think Young will bust ...but Bud Adams may have his mind made up. I don't think anyone will really know though until they announce the pick at about 12:30 tomorrow.

[bigmike]

Rumor has it that the front office wants Young, and the coaching staff wants Leinart.

Last year, the coaches didn't want Pac-Man Jones, but the front office trumped them. Maybe this time, they go the other way around?
I'd go leinart, even though i think he'll be a bust in terms that he won't perfom like a top 5 QB draft pick should. He'll be a good pro, but not a great, great pro.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I'd go leinart, even though i think he'll be a bust in terms that he won't perfom like a top 5 QB draft pick should. He'll be a good pro, but not a great, great pro.
You're right. He had so much talent around him at USC, there's no way he's the second coming of Christ at QB.

But, unlike Ken Dorsey, Leinart does have some excellent abilities in his own right.

[bigmike]

well apparently there's a power struggle between ownership and the coaching staff. i buy into it too, because the owner wants the guy who will sell more tickets (young). since he's signing the checks, I think he will end up there.

Personally, I'd pick Leinart because I think Young will bust ...but Bud Adams may have his mind made up. I don't think anyone will really know though until they announce the pick at about 12:30 tomorrow.
yeah. I don't know why'd people would want to pay money to watch young sit on the bench for 4 years or watch him get rushed into the QB position he's not able to handle and get killed. Vince Young and Mario Williams are the two most overrated players in this draft, in my opinion.

[bigmike]

You're right. He had so much talent around him at USC, there's no way he's the second coming of Christ at QB.

But, unlike Ken Dorsey, Leinart does have some excellent abilities in his own right.
but like leinart, he's got an average arm at best. and merril hodge (though i may not like him) said that his accuracy is good, yes, but his ball placement isn't. and in the nfl it's more about ball placement than accuracy.

[bigmike]

But at the end of the day, i don't really care about where leinart and young go because i'm concerned about what detroit will do. the Lions better take Michael Huff, and only michael huff at #9. if he's gone, then they need to take Winston Justice. I just have a feeling that they're going to fuck up and take jay cutler or something ridiculously retarded. word is Matt Millen wants a QB they can groom. shoot me.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

But at the end of the day, i don't really care about where leinart and young go because i'm concerned about what detroit will do. the Lions better take Michael Huff, and only michael huff at #9. if he's gone, then they need to take Winston Justice. I just have a feeling that they're going to fuck up and take jay cutler or something ridiculously retarded. word is Matt Millen wants a QB they can groom. shoot me.
I'm salivating that the Saints are staying at #2 and picking Bush.

Every pick that gets set makes Ferguson's slim chances of dropping to Buffalo at #8 that much more of a reality.

If Ferguson is off the board, I think the Bills draft Huff, Justice, or trade down to the #12-16.

[LeftWideOpen]

I'm salivating that the Saints are staying at #2 and picking Bush.

Every pick that gets set makes Ferguson's slim chances of dropping to Buffalo at #8 that much more of a reality.

If Ferguson is off the board, I think the Bills draft Huff, Justice, or trade down to the #12-16.

Does Buffalo seem interested in Vernon Davis? I think they are gonna have a shot at him at #8. It all depends on where Young and Leinart go ...if they go #3 and #4 to TEN and NYJ, I don't see GB and SF passing up Hawk and Ferguson, regardless of the order they go in. Oakland then probably picks Huff since Young is gone and then it's Buffalo on the clock.

[bigmike]

I'm salivating that the Saints are staying at #2 and picking Bush.

Every pick that gets set makes Ferguson's slim chances of dropping to Buffalo at #8 that much more of a reality.

If Ferguson is off the board, I think the Bills draft Huff, Justice, or trade down to the #12-16.
if huff AND justice are off the board at 9, i'll seriously kill someone.

[YouMadeTheScene]

I was going to make a post about the Reggie Bush thing before because I was listening to the Michael Kay show and the Texans GM was on and he sounded A LOT like he was going to go with Mario Williams.

This is crazy. I love the draft.

[zizou1790]

Mario Williams to Houston ... nuts.... where do you see reggie going... i see New York Jets

[Goodbye Forever]

Contrary to the rumors, the Jets camp is saying they haven't even called NO yet. If worse comes to worse, I'll be making the call myself.

[getupkid53]

Bush wont go past number three .... tennessee wont pass up on him....

[Goodbye Forever]

Hereeeeeeeeeeeeeee we go. This is going to be great.

[ides of march]

Titans are taking Young, it's official.

[Drew Beringer]

Haha, that opening segment was cheesy as fuck.

[Goodbye Forever]

Hahaha, that intro was terribly wonderful.

[FondestMemory]

Haha, that opening segment was cheesy as fuck.

the best was when sportscenter was following them while they were getting dressed for it and everybody was bitching about what they had to wear.

[Scuba Chris]

Contrary to the rumors, the Jets camp is saying they haven't even called NO yet. If worse comes to worse, I'll be making the call myself.

The jets should not trade up to get Bush.
New Orleans wants either:
1)The Jets first three picks (4, 29, 35) and next year's second rounder
or
2)The Jets first two picks (4, 29) and next year's first rounder.
That is ridiculous. The Jets will not be moving up.

[Goodbye Forever]

Nothing is too rediculous.

I'll give my balls up for Reggie Bush in green and white next year.

[FondestMemory]

Nothing is too rediculous.

I'll give my balls up for Reggie Bush in green and white next year.

at this point, it seems like you'll be ending up with leinart.

[fromwithin]

Titans are taking Young, it's official.

i'd hate to be a titans fan. congrats you just got yourself another akili smith.

[Goodbye Forever]

at this point, it seems like you'll be ending up with leinart.

I think it will be Ferguson.

I just hope they at least take an RB with the 29th.

[FondestMemory]

I think it will be Ferguson.

I just hope they at least take an RB with the 29th.

ferguson is the smart choice, but they seem to be obsessed with leinart, and with him dropping into their laps i don't know how they'll handle it.

and they probably will take an rb later. there'll still be a handful of talent there at 29.

[Goodbye Forever]

I just think with Ramsey and Pennington, they'll give it one more year before drafting a QB.

Tannenbaum is a first year GM, so I don't know if he'll take the risk with a QB when he has a franchise lineman falling to him.

[Scuba Chris]

Anybody else notice Mario Williams sitting in front of the picture of Vinny Testaverde?
That does not bode well for his career.

[FondestMemory]

I just think with Ramsey and Pennington, they'll give it one more year before drafting a QB.

Tannenbaum is a first year GM, so I don't know if he'll take the risk with a QB when he has a franchise lineman falling to him.

agreed. qb is good enough to get them through at least a season. but leinart's a big city qb.

be interesting. whether they go with the smart choice or the sexy choice.

[fromwithin]

I think it will be Ferguson.

I just hope they at least take an RB with the 29th.

my god, theyll be able to get ferguson and white. i'd love to be a saints fan. i hope they pass on him though i want white in pittsburgh badly. did you hear all those dumbasses booing when they announced williams as the pick?

[Goodbye Forever]

agreed. qb is good enough to get them through at least a season. but leinart's a big city qb.

be interesting. whether they go with the smart choice or the sexy choice.

I'd love to see Leinart here, but I just don't think it will happen.

If they bomb out again next year, I'd like to see them make a run at Quinn.

[Goodbye Forever]

my god, theyll be able to get ferguson and white. i'd love to be a saints fan. i hope they pass on him though i want white in pittsburgh badly. did you hear all those dumbasses booing when they announced williams as the pick?

Jets fans boo everyone that isn't drafted by the Jets, and even some guys that are. Draft tradition.

[LeftWideOpen]

Pleaseeee NO, take Bush. I don't want that freak in my division for years to come.

[Broken Parachute]

I think the Saints are going to draft Bush then trade their Pick with the Jets..it's a good possibility.

[Broken Parachute]

Anybody else notice Mario Williams sitting in front of the picture of Vinny Testaverde?
That does not bode well for his career.

Hahaha

[LeftWideOpen]

the 49ers must be delusional and think Alex Smith is the cornerstone of their franchise, because I haven't heard a peep out of them for the #2 spot and Bush is just what they need.

[Broken Parachute]

the 49ers must be delusional and think Alex Smith is the cornerstone of their franchise, because I haven't heard a peep out of them for the #2 spot and Bush is just what they need.
They could use Vernon Davis too. Basically anything to help out their offense. What if they take DBrick?

[fromwithin]

the 49ers must be delusional and think Alex Smith is the cornerstone of their franchise, because I haven't heard a peep out of them for the #2 spot and Bush is just what they need.

they have to. he's owed $50+ million. that was such a stupid pick by them last year.

[Goodbye Forever]

Well, it looks like it's down to the Jets. Please please please make the trade.

[LeftWideOpen]

They could use Vernon Davis too. Basically anything to help out their offense. What if they take DBrick?

I'd take D'Brick over Davis no matter what. In my mind, there are 4 sure-fire, Grade A players out of this draft w/out much bust potential ...Bush, Williams, Ferguson, Hawk. You can't pass up any of those four guys.

[Broken Parachute]

'We want Reggiiieee!!' chants in the building.

[LeftWideOpen]

NO takes Bush. YES!

[Broken Parachute]

Saints pick Reggie Bush.

[Goodbye Forever]

Bah.

[Scuba Chris]

I was eagerly anticipating that Jets' fans reaction to the pick of Reggie Bush, and boy it didnt disappoint.

[Drew Beringer]

No surprise there.

[Kram41]

Good for New Orleans! I was hoping the Niners might do something, just so we'd have something to watch this year, but we're better off taking 2 first rounders than we would have been trading them for Bush.

[fromwithin]

getting rid of deuce? theyll have to unless they trade bush because deuce is owed $50 million over the next few years.

[Broken Parachute]

Okay so now the Titans take Matt Leinart or Vince Young. I'm going to guess Young, then Leinart falls to the Raiders. I have this dumb feeling about DBrick coming to the Jets.

[LeftWideOpen]

Please New Orleans, hold on to him for dear life. Don't trade him away.

[Drew Beringer]

The Titans pick is going to be interesting.

[Scuba Chris]

I believe it will be Vince Young.

[LeftWideOpen]

The Titans pick is going to be interesting.

I'm hoping Leinart. My money is on Young though.

[Kram41]

I'd put my money on Vince Young as a Titan, but we'll see...

[Goodbye Forever]

Dammit Reggie, pull a ShEli.

[Broken Parachute]

Titans take Vince Young.

[LeftWideOpen]

Titans pick Young.

[Drew Beringer]

Vince Young? Norm Chow has gotta be pissed.

[LeftWideOpen]

Buuuuuuusssttttttt

[Scuba Chris]

And the Jets are on the clock...

My favorite thing to hear on draft day.
You know something outrageous is going to happen.

[zizou1790]

i think vince young makes sense he a lot like steve mcnair hell groom him well

[Kram41]

And suddenly all that talk of Vince Young falling in the draft because of his test score is forgotten.

[LeftWideOpen]

And the Jets are on the clock...

My favorite thing to hear on draft day.
You know something outrageous is going to happen.

I think they'll screw up and take Leinart. Ferguson is the smarter choice.

[Broken Parachute]

Hahaha I wanna see this Jets pick.

I'm hoping it's a little like..With the 4th pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, the NY Jets select D'Brickishaw Furgison out of Virginia University...then, hmm..The NY Jets and the NO Saints have traded their draft pick.

I'm not a Jets fan, but living in NY..I would get an oppurtunity to see Bush play every Sunday.

[splitsecond]

Not gonna lie, NO has a chance to be pretty sick with Bush and Brees. Think San Diego pt II.


And I dont blame the texans for their move, but they need an O line so much more.

[Kram41]

And the Jets are on the clock...

My favorite thing to hear on draft day.
You know something outrageous is going to happen.

I'm thinking the Jets will go with Adam Morrison.

[Goodbye Forever]

Maybe they'll take Vernon Davis just to make everyone crazy. I'd like to see a nice riot on television today.

[Broken Parachute]

I'm thinking the Jets will go with Adam Morrison.

They need a quicker guy..I'd go with JJ Redick.

[Broken Parachute]

Hahaha there is absolutely NO Giants fans in Radio City.

[zizou1790]

Not gonna lie, NO has a chance to be pretty sick with Bush and Brees. Think San Diego pt II.


And I dont blame the texans for their move, but they need an O line so much more.

yeah i understand texas move they would of been best suited moving lower and getting d'birckshaw though

....i love the draft sooo much

[Drew Beringer]

I'm thinking the Jets will go with Adam Morrison.

Smart pick.

[Goodbye Forever]

"With the fourth pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select Jai Lewis, PF from George Mason."

[fromwithin]

Buuuuuuusssttttttt

this dumbass on espn radio said before the titans drafted him that vince young was a better QB than michael vick when he was drafted. hahhahahaha.

[poppa Q]

I'm thinking the Jets will go with Adam Morrison.Haha.

[mikeford]

LOL @ Titans

[Broken Parachute]

"With the fourth pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select Jai Lewis, PF from George Mason."

haha imagine that.

[LeftWideOpen]

yeah i understand texas move they would of been best suited moving lower and getting d'birckshaw though

....i love the draft sooo much

yep, here we are at #4 and it could be Houston selecting a guy they need just as much as Willams (Ferguson). They'd also have about 4-5 extra picks this year and next.

[LeftWideOpen]

not to mention the amount of salary cap space saved by selecting a tackle at #4 compared to a DE at #1.

[FondestMemory]

yep, here we are at #4 and it could be Houston selecting a guy they need just as much as Willams (Ferguson). They'd also have about 4-5 extra picks this year and next.

but the jets weren't able to work anything out to move up to number 2, you honestly think they'd have been willing to give up even more to be number one?

houston was stuck with that pick.

[Broken Parachute]

Jets should pick Furgison or Justice for their OLine, then take Nick Mangold with the 29th pick to solidify Mawae's spot.

[LeftWideOpen]

take Leinart, New York. It would make too much sense for them to take a guy who could block Seymour for years to come.

[Goodbye Forever]

Ah, they better take at least one skill player in the first round. At least make things somewhat interesting.

[Broken Parachute]

Jets are using alot of time up. I really think they have no clue what to do.

[Scuba Chris]

"With the fourth pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select Jai Lewis, PF from George Mason."

You win a prize. :appl:

[Goodbye Forever]

Michael Irvin said take Leinart... Please don't take him.

[Kram41]

houston was stuck with that pick.

Houston needs to start building a defense first. Let David Carr get tossed around for another year.

[Kram41]

Jets are using alot of time up. I really think they have no clue what to do.

Get in the car and drive to Radio City, you might be the next pick!

[LeftWideOpen]

It's gonna be Ferguson. They woulda made a deal for Bush if they thought they needed an offensive playmaker. They obviously didnt want to overpay for anyone, which means they were content at #4.

[Broken Parachute]

Get in the car and drive to Radio City, you might be the next pick!

Good idea.

[Scuba Chris]

here comes the pick!!!!!!!1

[Drew Beringer]

It's gonna be Fergeson.

[Drew Beringer]

Yep.

[Broken Parachute]

The Jets take DBrick Furgison.

[LeftWideOpen]

Damn, the Jets made the right move. Fuck.

This is Leinart's worst nightmare.

[Drew Beringer]

This is good for the Packers, now they don't have to worry about drafting Fergeson or Hawk. Now, they can take Hawk without hesitation.

[Goodbye Forever]

The o-line is a mess. If he can stay healthy, it's a good choice.

[Broken Parachute]

Jets fans gotta be pretty happy..why are they booing? They can't have a good QB without an OLine. With Kevin Mawae gone, they have hardly any good blocking.

[Kram41]

Wow, that was a better reaction than I was expecting from Jets fans for selecting a tackle.

[fromwithin]

good job jets. i bet leinart feels worse than when he took that ballroom dancing class.

[aminorthreat55]

Leinhart is getting pwned.

[LeftWideOpen]

Haha, the Jets fans love it. What a surprise.

[Scuba Chris]

I kinda feel bad for Leinart, he would have been the #1 pick if he came out last year.

[Broken Parachute]

Green Bay better take Hawk. Leinart is going to fall to the Raiders, he's gotta be real upset.

We know GB is going for Hawk. The question is, who are the Niners gonna take?

[Scuba Chris]

Haha, the Jets fans love it. What a surprise.

I thought the Jets fans were going to boo like crazy.

[Drew Beringer]

Come on, Packers, please don't fuck this up, just draft AJ.

[Kram41]

Matt Leinart as a Raider will be pretty interesting. Leinart to Moss?

[mikeford]

leinhart is gonna be throwing to randy fuckin moss... im pretty sure he's cool with this.

[Broken Parachute]

I kinda feel bad for Leinart, he would have been the #1 pick if he came out last year.

Yeah, BUT the extra year of him playing probably helped him immensely. An extra year of College play definitely helped him get even better.

[LeftWideOpen]

Leinart better pray for Oakland or else his wallet is going to be a lot lighter than he expected.

[Goodbye Forever]

Green Bay better take Hawk. Leinart is going to fall to the Raiders, he's gotta be real upset.

We know GB is going for Hawk. The question is, who are the Niners gonna take?

I'm thinking Huff.

[LeftWideOpen]

leinhart is gonna be throwing to randy fuckin moss... im pretty sure he's cool with this.

It's not a sure thing by any means. They could easily take Huff.

[FondestMemory]

leinart will probably end up in oakland. so at least he won't be too far from home.

[Kram41]

The next two should be pretty set: Hawk and Davis.

[LeftWideOpen]

I'm thinking Huff.

Vernon Davis, IMO.

[DownAndOut]

leinhart is gonna be throwing to randy fuckin moss... im pretty sure he's cool with this.
I would be

[wesgemm08]

with the sixth pick, the oakland raiders select jay cutler,qb, vanderbilt

[Broken Parachute]

It's not a sure thing by any means. They could easily take Huff.

If the Raiders take Huff, the Bills take Leinart? If he falls past Jay Cutler, he's gonna want to kill himself.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Leinhart won't be drafted by The Packers, they have to much invested in Brett Favre..

No one will come out and say it that he is washed up and needs replaced. They praise him in Green Bay and he's always been overrated in my opinion. I wanna see Green Bay pick Leinhart and "stick it to the man."

[drudo182]

Matt looks about ready to cry. I kinda feel bad.

[Broken Parachute]

with the sixth pick, the oakland raiders select jay cutler,qb, vanderbilt

I think that's too high..he's gonna probably go to Arizona.

[LeftWideOpen]

If the Raiders take Huff, the Bills take Leinart? If he falls past Jay Cutler, he's gonna want to kill himself.

I could see Leinart falling all the way to Arizona.

I don't think it'll happen lol, but I could see it. He'll probably wind up in Oakland.

[FondestMemory]

We know GB is going for Hawk. The question is, who are the Niners gonna take?

it should be davis. if davis were on any other team, he'd have the most impact as a rookie right off the bat.

but, if alex smith is trying to throw to him, that won't be the case.

[Scuba Chris]

Yeah, BUT the extra year of him playing probably helped him immensely. An extra year of College play definitely helped him get even better.

It is also losing him ALOT of money.

[Scuba Chris]

Leinhart won't be drafted by The Packers, they have to much invested in Brett Favre..

No one will come out and say it that he is washed up and needs replaced. They praise him in Green Bay and he's always been overrated in my opinion. I wanna see Green Bay pick Leinhart and "stick it to the man."


That and they picked Aaron Rodgers last year!

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Vince Young going to Tennessee, hmm, I guess it fits in more there then any of us realize. He is the best quarterback that will go in the first round? No. But McNair has been there for years and Vince Young is a mini McNair, on McNair in his time then Young will be.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

That and they picked Aaron Rodgers last year!

Good point.

[LeftWideOpen]

Green Bay is taking their time, uh oh ...

Could they be on the phones??? ;)

[DownAndOut]

Leinhart won't be drafted by The Packers, they have to much invested in Brett Favre..

No one will come out and say it that he is washed up and needs replaced. They praise him in Green Bay and he's always been overrated in my opinion. I wanna see Green Bay pick Leinhart and "stick it to the man."
In a way it would make sense for Green Bay to pick Leinart, cause Favre's hitting the end of the road soon enough. Leinart would make a great replacemet for him.

But it won't happen.

[LeftWideOpen]

In a way it would make sense for Green Bay to pick Leinart, cause Favre's hitting the end of the road soon enough. Leinart would make a great replacemet for him.

But it won't happen.

aaron rodgers is getting the chance to be the replacement. no chance leinart goes to GB.

[Broken Parachute]

It is also losing him ALOT of money.

I'm not even kidding, I wouldn't care about the money..I would love to play on a team and do well.

Would you rather make millions of dollars and suck..or take the extra year, make less money with a lower draft pick, then maybe go to the hall of fame?

[FondestMemory]

In a way it would make sense for Green Bay to pick Leinart, cause Favre's hitting the end of the road soon enough. Leinart would make a great replacemet for him.

But it won't happen.

they picked favre's replacement last year.

using a first round pick on a qb two years in a row gives your team no chance to win. especially when you have one of the best ever coming back for at least another season.

[DownAndOut]

aaron rodgers is getting the chance to be the replacement. no chance leinart goes to GB.
Yeah, I know.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Henderson is on TV trying so hard not to bash Rodgers. He just said he was "slow progressing"

lol.

[Broken Parachute]

Wow, Berman just said reports are saying 'Oakland is NOT interested in Leinart.'

[LeftWideOpen]

berman is saying Leinart might fall to #10. He's saying Oakland isnt that high on him and Detroit isn't either.

[Broken Parachute]

Leinart might wanna go home and wait until the second round at this rate. Haha.

[mikeford]

yeah moisi tutausuispsapsopo is soooooooooooooooooo good after all.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

In a way it would make sense for Green Bay to pick Leinart, cause Favre's hitting the end of the road soon enough. Leinart would make a great replacemet for him.

But it won't happen.

Soon enough? He's at the end of the road, but he keeps walking.. Soon enough he's gonna walk over the cliff that's at the end of the road.

And as you said Leinhart would make a great replacement, I think he's better then Vince Young.

[Goodbye Forever]

If Leinart falls to Arizona, the Cardinals are suddenly extremely relevant.

[Broken Parachute]

Packers pick is in.

[LeftWideOpen]

Wow, Berman just said reports are saying 'Oakland is NOT interested in Leinart.'

I really think Huff is their guy. Lions fans must be pissed.

[DownAndOut]

they picked favre's replacement last year.

using a first round pick on a qb two years in a row gives your team no chance to win. especially when you have one of the best ever coming back for at least another season.
Oh i know, that's why I said it wouldn't happen. Just saying Leinart would make a great replacement if GB needed him. Plus I think he's better than Rodgers, my opinion.

And Green Bay's pick....