M-v-p

[mikeford]

Kobe.

[Drew Beringer]

mvp mvp mvp

who choked at the end? Nash
who won the game? Kobe

mvp mvp mvp mvp mvp

[itsjdiggity]

Luke Walton and Smush = MVPs

[Caleb Cattivera]

Luke Walton and Smush = MVPs

you're funny. smush was 2 for 10.

[bigmike]

you're funny. smush was 2 for 10.
what's happening with that smush interview?

[itsjdiggity]

you're funny. smush was 2 for 10.

3 pointer and steal

MVP

[Drew Beringer]

3 pointer and steal

MVP

you crack me up, I love you J.

[Brownpants06]

mvp mvp mvp

who choked at the end? Nash
who won the game? Kobe

mvp mvp mvp mvp mvp

At the end of regulation, maybe.

Nash was getting anally penetrated at the end of OT and no foul. He's probably carring a baby after that. Bah. This is why basketball sucks. (Well not really)

[itsjdiggity]

Kobe on Smush: Without that play, there is no way we win this game.

MVP

[Caleb Cattivera]

what's happening with that smush interview?

sent it off, said he'd get it back when they're done. which i hope isnt til june haha. but im sitting down with donta smith and josh smith in the next two weeks.

[Drew Beringer]

At the end of regulation, maybe.

Nash was getting anally penetrated at the end of OT and no foul. He's probably carring a baby after that. Bah. This is why basketball sucks. (Well not really)

MVP's should be getting MVP calls. ;)

[bigmike]

sent it off, said he'd get it back when they're done. which i hope isnt til june haha. but im sitting down with donta smith and josh smith in the next two weeks.
nice. ask donta if he wants to send me like 5 g's. i'm pretty broke.

[Vincewithouthee]

Koooooobbbbbbeeeeeeeeee

[ActorInThisPlay]

let me ask this question:

how many MVP's has Kobe Bryant won? 0....thx end of story.

[ThriftWhore]

MVP.

Kobe's fucking ridiculous hahahaha.

[mikeford]

let me ask this question:

how many MVP's has Kobe Bryant won? 0....thx end of story.

how many rings does that canadian fruit have?

none, thanks.

[ThriftWhore]

how many rings does that canadian fruit have?

none, thanks.
posterized!

[bigmike]

how many rings does that canadian fruit have?

none, thanks.
(insert lame comment about kobe winning no rings without shaq, here)


(then insert insult about him being a rapist, here).

[preppyak]

posterized!
http://www.filecabin.com/up1/1146154454-20060427-02.gif
(insert lame comment about kobe winning no rings without shaq, here)


(then insert insult about him being a rapist, here).
haha

I still can't believe those plays happened...I sat there stunned for a good 5 minutes

[ThriftWhore]

(insert lame comment about kobe winning no rings without shaq, here)
Just to start a discussion with all, if the Lakers continue playing like this with Kobe leading the team in playing team basketball, do they have a shot to get to the finals, or are they just playing against a lackluster defensive team?

[Trainsaw]

how many rings does that canadian fruit have?

none, thanks.
what a coencidence, that's the same number Kobe would have w/o Shaq

i got it for you bigmike

[bigmike]

what a coencidence, that's the same number Kobe would have w/o Shaq

i got it for you bigmike
yeah, i was being sarcastic and mocking that argument, which i knew was coming.

and shaq has 0 without kobe as well. it's a two way street.

[ThriftWhore]

and shaq has 0 without kobe as well. it's a two way street.
and Shaq has had better pure talent on his team than Kobe has had on his teams post-Shaq.

[ActorInThisPlay]

how many rings does that canadian fruit have?

none, thanks.
yeah your right...the Lakers team was better then the Suns team now...thus the championships. Devean George also has more rings but that doesn't make him a better player...nice argument

again: Kobe MVP's = 0
Steve Nash MVP's = 2
thx

[mikeford]

kobe would son nash 1 on 1 so dont act like nash is a better player than kobe

[ActorInThisPlay]

kobe would son nash 1 on 1 so dont act like nash is a better player than kobe
cause 1 on 1 determines how good a player is. typical coming from a Kobe fan...basketball is a team sport.

[mikeford]

I DONT EVEN LIKE KOBE OR THE LAKERS

im a fuckin celtics fan for christ sake.

[ActorInThisPlay]

I DONT EVEN LIKE KOBE OR THE LAKERS

im a fuckin celtics fan for christ sake.
then quit acting like a fuckin Kobe fanboy...making threads that say MVP doesn't exactly help your case here.

[somethingyellow]

then quit acting like a fuckin Kobe fanboy...making threads that say MVP doesn't exactly help your case here.hahaha, ford i thought you were gonna stop watching basketball?

[Caleb Cattivera]

at all the suns fans crying. wa wa wa. sucks for you. suck it up, its sports, calls are missed, bad calls are made, its happened to my teams in the past, jsut be able to suck it up and quit bitching.

[somethingyellow]

whoa caleb we are just discussing it, the same day as the game. Im assuming that was at me since there isnt any other suns fans here. I admitted the foul was missed and nothing more can be done about it. With that said i hope the suns come out sharp and overcome this heart breaking game

[Caleb Cattivera]

whoa caleb we are just discussing it, the same day as the game. Im assuming that was at me since there isnt any other suns fans here. I admitted the foul was missed and nothing more can be done about it. With that said i hope the suns come out sharp and overcome this heart breaking game

naw not you, just matt, dunno if he's a suns fan, just giving him shit, because of our ongoing kobe battle. its gone on all season long. i cant wait to get to LA and argue this shit face to face. it'd be good drinking times.

[somethingyellow]

i dont think hes a suns fan, but that sounds fun

[itsjdiggity]

at all the suns fans crying. wa wa wa. sucks for you. suck it up, its sports, calls are missed, bad calls are made, its happened to my teams in the past, jsut be able to suck it up and quit bitching.

wa wa wa

[Caleb Cattivera]

wa wa wa

haha your sig is awesome. you seriously come up with the best pictures and videos. i debated making a sticky for dunleavy.

[Spicoli hey bud]

All I know, is that this is one of the better 1st round series in a while

[ActorInThisPlay]

naw not you, just matt, dunno if he's a suns fan, just giving him shit, because of our ongoing kobe battle. its gone on all season long. i cant wait to get to LA and argue this shit face to face. it'd be good drinking times.
I'm not a Suns fan really...just not a Lakers fan...hahaha. I actually enjoy arguing face to face better then on the internet because people can't go and look up bogus stats for 10 min in a face to face argument. *cough* Caleb *cough*....haha just playin.

As I stated before though, the Suns had a lot of opportunities to put the Lakers away but didn't capitalize on them. The Suns lost the game but the refs sure didn't help them out with that bogus no-call.

[DevastatingDave]

steve nash shouldnt have tribbled into a half court trap. You dont call that foul with 6 seconds left in the game.

[radiofriendly]

kobe haters amaze me. when he does everything in a season that kobe haters preached that he wouldn't, they just make another stupid reason to hate him. let's get out the checklist.

kobe haters said...

kobe and the lakers would continue a downward spiral this season with out shaq.
-Kobe shatters his ppg average while shaq posts career lows. check

kobe and phil would never break .500 because of Kobe's selfish play, and his bad supporting cast.
-45-37 for a .549 win pct. check

kobe and phil would never make it to the postseason.
-kobe and phil make the postseason. check

kobe could never pass the ball. he's a selfish ballhog!
-in addition to winning the scoring title, he posts 4.5 assists a game. 1.6 above the league average, and 5th among all starting SG this season. 3rd if you take away Mcgrady and Diaw. during their current trouncing of the suns, Kobe is averaging 6.25 assists a game, with his entire starting lineup scoring double digits in two of the four games. check

Lakers can't escape the first round. NO WAY they could beat the MVP and his suns in a 7 game set!
-Lakers up 3-1 with one more in L.A. obvious upperhand at this point physically and mentally, especially with what could be a 7-game home court series against an inexperienced Clips looming in the next round. only time will tell, but they've more then proven their point. check

Kobe won't win an MVP!
-not much to say here. career season. was considered highway robbery by many for him not too win. can't claim the award this year, but he's done the best thing he can do in the situation: beat steve nash, not just with team, but in the clutch too. no question at this point who i want on my team, at least in the playoffs. check

Kobe raped a woman!
-friends of the accuser and various pieces of evidence(whether admissable or not) labeled the accuser as trash, and subsequently nobody could build a case, and the charges were dropped. check

Kobe sucks anyway!
-well i guess you have your stubborn opinions. Kobe still makes more money and plays better basketball then anyone else in the league. check

radiofriendly has too much time on his hands! he's gives me stupid stats, even though i know Kobe sucks!
-very true work is slow at the office, and i had nothing better to do then explain why Kobe is the most valuable player in this league. next to dirk of course.

[mikeford]

hahaha, ford i thought you were gonna stop watching basketball?

no trophy has been handed to the fruit yet.

[weezer182]

no trophy has been handed to the fruit yet.you were the one who admitted you never watch the phx suns play so how can you even have a valid opinion on this? you thought marion was a huge inside presence, enough said

[mikeford]

i dont like steve nash. thats my opinion. kiss my balls.

[weezer182]

i dont like steve nash. thats my opinion. kiss my balls.I dont care what your opinion is but if you don't watch him play how the hell do you know he doesn't deserve the mvp?

[the_champ_is_here]

I (kind of) hate Kobe Bryant.

But he's just disgusting, there's no way around it.

[somethingyellow]

no trophy has been handed to the fruit yet.It is only a matter of time before it happens, then you can finally shut up

[sweethypocrisy]

Regardless of who you are a fan of, or what they did in the regular season, kobe is playing mvp caliber ball this series, whereas nash is not. Or if anything, kobe is showing up nash.

[somethingyellow]

Regardless of who you are a fan of, or what they did in the regular season, kobe is playing mvp caliber ball this series, whereas nash is not. Or if anything, kobe is showing up nash.Do you watch any of the games?

[last light]

nash is playing MVP calibur ball...

nash is deserving, Kobe was as well.

[somethingyellow]

nash is playing MVP calibur ball...

nash is deserving, Kobe was as well.exactly they are both playing great. The main difference is the supporting cast

[last light]

both guys deserved to be 1 and 2 in the voting...hopefully thats how it came out. had leBron won the MVP i would be upset i think...same with Wade, Dirk, or Chauncy.

[ActorInThisPlay]

where are all you guys now???

[FondestMemory]

where are all you guys now???

same place they are when they're not answering the same question in 20 other threads.

[ActorInThisPlay]

MVP's should be getting MVP calls. ;)
MVP's should be advancing to the second round...

[LeftWideOpen]

same place they are when they're not answering the same question in 20 other threads.

seriously ...give it a rest people.

[Trainsaw]

mvp mvp mvp

who choked at the end? Nash
who won the game? Kobe

mvp mvp mvp mvp mvp

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[Brownpants06]

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hahaha, this thread is awesome now that the lakers lost and looking back at everyone.

[Trainsaw]

exactly why you never put your money on Kobe Bryant, the guy is a douche

[Split2nd]

where are all you guys now???

Still right here, Kobe was as deserving as Nash for the MVP, and one game where his teammates were absolutely atrocious shouldn't and doesn't change that. If anything, leading this pathetic roster to a Game 7 against the #2 seed should affirm the fact that he's deserving of the MVP

[DevastatingDave]

If Kwame Brown wasn't a douche and didn't let Tim Thomas shoot a wide open 3 foot shot to tie the game there wouldn't even have been a game 7.

[Brownpants06]

If Kwame Brown wasn't a douche and didn't let Tim Thomas shoot a wide open 3 foot shot to tie the game there wouldn't even have been a game 7.

But he did, and it did, and the suns won.

Besides, if Nash could have gotten a call or two theyre wouldnt have been a game 7 and suns would have taken it 4-2.

[ActorInThisPlay]

If Kwame Brown wasn't a douche and didn't let Tim Thomas shoot a wide open 3 foot shot to tie the game there wouldn't even have been a game 7.
and if they had called the foul on Walton instead of a fuckin jump ball, the Lakers would have never even led in the series. all these what if's go no where so give it a rest please...

[bigmike]

this whole topic needs a rest. it's the same shit over and over and over again. unless someone comes up with a new argument, these threads should stop.

[BarrelIsPointed]

I don't care to read 5 pages of this...all I needed was the first post. Fuck Kobe. If anyone deserved the MVP and didn't get it, it was Lebron. This isn't me going, "oh, I love Lebron, he should've won!"...I fucking hate Lebron too, but he was better than Kobe.

[FondestMemory]

I don't care to read 5 pages of this...all I needed was the first post. Fuck Kobe. If anyone deserved the MVP and didn't get it, it was Lebron. This isn't me going, "oh, I love Lebron, he should've won!"...I fucking hate Lebron too, but he was better than Kobe.

how can anybody hate lebron?

[Tim Thomas]

The Kobe/Lakers bandwagoners and those who believed Kobe deserved to win the mvp are doing now in compasion to this time last week. They are either running for the hills, conceding their overconfidence, or like most here, still believing Kobe is the rightful MVP and losing their credibility. Look at Game 7, where as Barkley and almost everyone else who watched recognized, kobe didnt play like an MVP. This, in possibly his biggest spotlight game of his carreer. (No, routing the 76ers while leaning on Shaq in the finals didnt hold the spotlight that this one did.) He gave up on his team in this one. Epitomal MVP's, such as Jordan you wouldnt let that happen. Also, if Jordan had shit talked to him, he would always go out and fry his opponents for about 50 pts the next game. He wouldnt lose game 7's. Kobe invited us to the octagon but he couldnt win it between the lines. With all this said Kobe is great player, who probably has the best skills of any player right now. But when times got tough in Phoenix, Nash took on the responsibility with great aplomb, while Kobe withered when his squad needed it. Nash played more like an MVP caliber player this series and its good to see this conclusion after everyone on the Lakers train were beating their chests after game 4. Note to Kobe: Never do the Michael Jordan game winning fist pump, if you cant seal the deal.

[mikeford]

horrendous attempt at fake posting.

[Tim Thomas]

cmon mikeford i thought youd have some rebuttal for that. you cant be as veiled by ignorance as split2nd and others.....i mean you do like devils

[mikeford]

i dont have a rebuttal because at this point i dont care anymore. nash won the MVP and the series. its over. his team is better than the lakers and he overwhelmingly crushed kobe in the MVP race.

2 more weeks till the NBA draft lottery.

[Tim Thomas]

he scored so much dramaticcaly higher than kobe because you know there were voters out there who iddnt want Kobe to win. Which sucks because it probably has to do somewhat with the past allegations and his attitude. A lot of voters picked Kobe number one, but of them who didnt pick him number one, almost none of them picked him second. Basically meaning that those who didnt pick Kobe first, picked him fourth or fifth, so he definitly wouldnt win. I was suprised he wasnt closer to Lebron or second in the voting, but i figured Nash would win, becasue of his teams record and that he was a favorite to get a lot of second place votes, if a voter wasnt going to vote him first.

[LeftWideOpen]

i dont have a rebuttal because at this point i dont care anymore. nash won the MVP and the series. its over. his team is better than the lakers and he overwhelmingly crushed kobe in the MVP race.

2 more weeks till the NBA draft lottery.

i hope the lottery brings us jermaine o neal.

i'd settle for brandon roy though, if we kept the pick. dude can come in and contribute right away.

[mikeford]

i hope the lottery brings us jermaine o neal.

i'd settle for brandon roy though, if we kept the pick. dude can come in and contribute right away.

well if we lucked out and caught top 3 pick, we should keep it. anything else we should try to give it to indy for JO

[Split2nd]

The Kobe/Lakers bandwagoners and those who believed Kobe deserved to win the mvp are doing now in compasion to this time last week. They are either running for the hills, conceding their overconfidence, or like most here, still believing Kobe is the rightful MVP and losing their credibility. Look at Game 7, where as Barkley and almost everyone else who watched recognized, kobe didnt play like an MVP. This, in possibly his biggest spotlight game of his carreer. (No, routing the 76ers while leaning on Shaq in the finals didnt hold the spotlight that this one did.) He gave up on his team in this one. Epitomal MVP's, such as Jordan you wouldnt let that happen. Also, if Jordan had shit talked to him, he would always go out and fry his opponents for about 50 pts the next game. He wouldnt lose game 7's. Kobe invited us to the octagon but he couldnt win it between the lines. With all this said Kobe is great player, who probably has the best skills of any player right now. But when times got tough in Phoenix, Nash took on the responsibility with great aplomb, while Kobe withered when his squad needed it. Nash played more like an MVP caliber player this series and its good to see this conclusion after everyone on the Lakers train were beating their chests after game 4. Note to Kobe: Never do the Michael Jordan game winning fist pump, if you cant seal the deal.

Dude, you must be kidding. Kobe had 23 points in the first half, was friggin' on fire, lighting it up. NO ONE else could make a fucking shot. It was obvious that someone else had to get involved for them to even have a chance, they were down by 15 with Kobe scoring over 60% of their points and on fire. He tried to get everyone else involved in the 3rd, and still, NO ONE stepped up. At the end of the 3rd, they were down 25, the game was over. I seriously don't understand people like you, Kobe "withered" when his teammates were nowhere to be found? Luke Walton missing layups? Kwame dropping the ball everytime down? Smush missing open 3s time and time again? That's all Kobe "withering?" Kobe didn't lose that game, his team did, and if you can't see that, I don't think you should be calling me ignorant.

I love how people say Kobe gave up on his team because he scored 1 point in the second half, but LeBron scores 0 and he's still the greatest thing in the history of the world.

[Split2nd]

and if they had called the foul on Walton instead of a fuckin jump ball, the Lakers would have never even led in the series. all these what if's go no where so give it a rest please...

I agree, one can counter that with a IF Kobe had gotten the call when Tim Thomas smacked him in the head, leaving a bump on his forehead, in Game 1, the game would've been tied and may have been a L for the Suns.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Dude, you must be kidding. Kobe had 23 points in the first half, was friggin' on fire, lighting it up. NO ONE else could make a fucking shot. It was obvious that someone else had to get involved for them to even have a chance, they were down by 15 with Kobe scoring over 60% of their points and on fire. He tried to get everyone else involved in the 3rd, and still, NO ONE stepped up. At the end of the 3rd, they were down 25, the game was over. I seriously don't understand people like you, Kobe "withered" when his teammates were nowhere to be found? Luke Walton missing layups? Kwame dropping the ball everytime down? Smush missing open 3s time and time again? That's all Kobe "withering?" Kobe didn't lose that game, his team did, and if you can't see that, I don't think you should be calling me ignorant.

I love how people say Kobe gave up on his team because he scored 1 point in the second half, but LeBron scores 0 and he's still the greatest thing in the history of the world.
but the fact that he only scored 3 points in the second half just shows that he didn't care. i'm sorry but in order to be the leader of your team you have to lead them, not stand around and watch as your team plays terribly. Kobe did what he had to do in the first half but then just looked like he didn't care anymore after that. if you can't see that then you are being blinded by the fact that you think that Kobe is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

[Split2nd]

but the fact that he only scored 3 points in the second half just shows that he didn't care. i'm sorry but in order to be the leader of your team you have to lead them, not stand around and watch as your team plays terribly. Kobe did what he had to do in the first half but then just looked like he didn't care anymore after that. if you can't see that then you are being blinded by the fact that you think that Kobe is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

The thing is I don't think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I think he's a great player, among the best in the league, but he has his flaws like every other player. I only defend him on here so much because people blindly hate him and say outrageous things that are completely offbase. I've said it before, I never make crazy claims about his greatness or anything, all I do is defend him when I feel people don't know what they're talking about.

I agree he didn't look like he cared in the 4th, which is weird for him, but they were down by 30 with 10 minutes to play, and none of his teammates could make a shot. I'm dissapointed that he played like he did in the 4th, but if he kept playing in the 3rd like he did in the first half, it was a guaranteed loss. By at least trying to involve the rest of the team and not taking over the game, there was a chance of winning.

[ActorInThisPlay]

The thing is I don't think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I think he's a great player, among the best in the league, but he has his flaws like every other player. I only defend him on here so much because people blindly hate him and say outrageous things that are completely offbase. I've said it before, I never make crazy claims about his greatness or anything, all I do is defend him when I feel people don't know what they're talking about.

I agree he didn't look like he cared in the 4th, which is weird for him, but they were down by 30 with 10 minutes to play, and none of his teammates could make a shot. I'm dissapointed that he played like he did in the 4th, but if he kept playing in the 3rd like he did in the first half, it was a guaranteed loss. By at least trying to involve the rest of the team and not taking over the game, there was a chance of winning.
down by 15 at the end of the half is not a loss in anyone's book let alone Kobe's. after the 3rd, yes it was a loss but Kobe still didn't even try in the 3rd quarter as well. He attempted like 1 or 2 shots the entire quarter. He is their offense, especially when the rest of team is struggling and he needs to step up and take the role that every single person on here has defended him having...the role of the scorer in the Laker offense.

[Split2nd]

down by 15 at the end of the half is not a loss in anyone's book let alone Kobe's. after the 3rd, yes it was a loss but Kobe still didn't even try in the 3rd quarter as well. He attempted like 1 or 2 shots the entire quarter. He is their offense, especially when the rest of team is struggling and he needs to step up and take the role that every single person on here has defended him having...the role of the scorer in the Laker offense.

I agree, but when he had a fantastic first half and they're still getting killed, there has to be some change in gameplan. If they continued with the gameplan of relying on Kobe to score, they would've lost. He was trying to involve the rest of the team because that was the only way they had beaten the Suns in the previous games, and the only way they had a chance of outscoring them. Kobe alone couldn't outscore them, so the help of his teammates was needed. He tried doing that in the 3rd, and was unsuccessful. I'm dissapointed and I agree with you on the 4th quarter though.

[weezer182]

I agree, but when he had a fantastic first half and they're still getting killed, there has to be some change in gameplan. If they continued with the gameplan of relying on Kobe to score, they would've lost. He was trying to involve the rest of the team because that was the only way they had beaten the Suns in the previous games, and the only way they had a chance of outscoring them. Kobe alone couldn't outscore them, so the help of his teammates was needed. He tried doing that in the 3rd, and was unsuccessful. I'm dissapointed and I agree with you on the 4th quarter though.hahahaha i told you that earlier but you didnt agree with me :wacko:

[weezer182]

hahahaha i told you that earlier but you didnt agree with me :wacko:http://www.absolutepunk.net/showpost.php?p=3245976&postcount=104

[ActorInThisPlay]

I agree, but when he had a fantastic first half and they're still getting killed, there has to be some change in gameplan. If they continued with the gameplan of relying on Kobe to score, they would've lost. He was trying to involve the rest of the team because that was the only way they had beaten the Suns in the previous games, and the only way they had a chance of outscoring them. Kobe alone couldn't outscore them, so the help of his teammates was needed. He tried doing that in the 3rd, and was unsuccessful. I'm dissapointed and I agree with you on the 4th quarter though.
yeah but at some point Kobe has to realize his guys aren't hitting shots, so he has to take over. it is still his responsibility to lead that team and he didn't do it when they needed it the most. the Suns were shooting lights out though so I'm not sure that would have helped all that much, but he at least has to put the effort forward

[Split2nd]

yeah but at some point Kobe has to realize his guys aren't hitting shots, so he has to take over. it is still his responsibility to lead that team and he didn't do it when they needed it the most. the Suns were shooting lights out though so I'm not sure that would have helped all that much, but he at least has to put the effort forward
I guess. It must've been hard as hell for him to see his team choke when they needed it most, but his play was pretty inexcusable. I remember yelling at the TV in the sports bar.

Oh well, here's to:

Marcus Banks, Joel Pryzbilla, and Eddie Griffin becoming Lakers in the offseason.

[Split2nd]

hahahaha i told you that earlier but you didnt agree with me :wacko:

Sorry. What'd you say earlier? I don't wanna look through 6 pages. I was probably caught up in the dissapointment of the loss.

[weezer182]

Sorry. What'd you say earlier? I don't wanna look through 6 pages. I was probably caught up in the dissapointment of the loss.click the link i posted a couple post up

[Split2nd]

Ohh, what I meant was when the Lakers aren't playing any defense like they were in game 7, they need the whole team to be involved to score. When the Suns are on pace to score 120, the only way they can compete is if everyone gets involved WITH Kobe, like in game 6. They were going to be murdered if Kobe shouldered the load because they weren't playing a lick of defense. Kobe can't go for a 100. (Well, not all the time anyways)

[weezer182]

Ohh, what I meant was when the Lakers aren't playing any defense like they were in game 7, they need the whole team to be involved to score. When the Suns are on pace to score 120, the only way they can compete is if everyone gets involved WITH Kobe, like in game 6. They were going to be murdered if Kobe shouldered the load because they weren't playing a lick of defense. Kobe can't go for a 100. (Well, not all the time anyways)I still think for the Lakers to be successful they not only have to play defensive but they need a balanced offensive scoring attack.

[mikeford]

they need to not have kwame brown.

[Split2nd]

they need to not have kwame brown.

As much as I hate Kwame when he fumbles passes with those tiny hands, he's one of the best post defenders in the league. That is one strong motherfucker.