Thursday on Thursday

[Jason Tate]

It's Thursday, and Thursday (http://www.absolutepunk.net/thursday)'s new album came out this week. I'm curious to hear everyone's thoughts now that people have had a few days to listen to the new album in CD quality. It's my second favorite Thursday album (after Full Collapse) that they've released, the small details of the CD are what make it fantastic.

[Drew Beringer]

I love it, and I agree, it's my second favorite Thursday album after the classic Full Collapse. Also, ACBTLD fuckin KILLS War All The Time. No contest. Fav songs: Telegraph Avenue Kiss, Autumn Leaves Revisited, Running From The Rain, The Lovesong Writer.

[cahrishurr]

top 3 of the year for me so far

Running From The Rain is my favorite track.

[dumbcorey]

makes me sad that it hasnt grown on me yet.

[Jason Tate]

makes me sad that it hasnt grown on me yet.
dumb corey.

Haha, just playing, the joke was there.

[DeathCabForCoon]

I've yet to pick it up. $8.13 to my name doesn't bode well for my cd purchasing habits and smoothie addiction.

[last light]

the production bugs me but its still a great record.

[Web250]

Still need a few more listens to decide. But i think it is different, and generally good so far.

It wont top FC for me, ever. But it has a chance of surpassing WATT

[nfggc10]

makes me sad that it hasnt grown on me yet.
yeah i still can't get into it either....the lyrics are great as usual but i find the songs kinda dull or lacking in passion compared to other thursday cds and the production is awful. i like raw sounding cds but this just does takes it too far.

[crit]

I still haven't decided how I feel about it. It's growing on me, though.

[Base3Studd]

i love it...my favorite of the year so far (though probably not for long with the upcoming releases)

[leafsacc]

Running From The Rain is one of my favorite songs ever. The production helps in some spots, like on that song, but really hurts in other places. I think it's very good, but at this point I like WATT better. The artwork is amazing, they definetely didn't let me down there.

[topsecret]

the new cd is great. i've been rockin' out to thursday & taking back sunday for the past 2 weeks. am i a teenager again? scary.

[eskaparate]

i like it. but once i get over the production. i'll love it. and nothing will ever top full collapse

[andrewiodm]

my least fav thursday album ever....

[willtotheh]

i think the new thursday is amazing. the last song has such a good impact and is very intense at the end .I love every album they've written. god bless them.

[trjlangdon]

Awesome album, will likely make it into my top 10 favorite of the year. It's also sad that the leaked vesrion sounds like shit as well...hopefully it didn't turn too many people off.

[OMG RISSA LOL]

I love love love it but like everyone else has said NOTHING will ever top Full Collapse...that CD is one of my favorite of all time.

[phoenixinflames]

most definitely an amazing album. musically, thursday has made leaps and bounds on this record.

My faves include "running from the rain", "lovesong writer", and "autumn leaves revisted"

(the latter (lattest?), simply for its ridiculous build-ups and geoffs "wont you take me home, yeeeaheeeyeaaahaaa" at the end)

[Ailite]

I'd say best Thursday album yet, and easily one of my favorite albums, ever. I love everyhting about it.
Favorite Songs- Other Side of The Crash, Running From The Rain, Autumn Leaves Revisited

[Dave Ambrose]

There exists wonderful subtleties in ACBTLD. Notice the connection between "Understanding" and "Other Side"? Notice where the song's perspectibe is coming from...

Questions start to arise as to why Geoff uses FIDELITY in "Telegraph". Just what does it represent?

There's so many small things in this album that brings me back to Waiting and FC. It certainly is growing on me.

Thursday will def. receive a larger fan base because of this album. Andrew's extensive use of keys in songs provide the sound a new-wave, modern-day approach to rock. WATT is still one of my all time fave Thursday albums, because of its raw energy.

[Chemical Love]

I like the production. It sounds a bit messy and real. I love The Otherside of the Crash, Counting 5-4-3-2-1 and a couple of the later tracks.

[overoverme]

There exists wonderful subtleties in ACBTLD. Notice the connection between "Understanding" and "Other Side"? Notice where the song's perspectibe is coming from...

Questions start to arise as to why Geoff uses FIDELITY in "Telegraph". Just what does it represent?

There's so many small things in this album that brings me back to Waiting and FC. It certainly is growing on me.

Thursday will def. receive a larger fan base because of this album. Andrew's extensive use of keys in songs provide the sound a new-wave, modern-day approach to rock. WATT is still one of my all time fave Thursday albums, because of its raw energy.

Other Side is a really old song, supposedly...

The lyric book says 'low F-I-D-E-L-I-T-Y is how these songs'

I really love this cd, and the new songs are amazing live. (They played the following when I saw them last week...Running from the Rain, Sugar in the Sacrament, Other side of the crash, Into the Blinding Light, and Counting 54321)
And all my friends at home are hating on this cd. They think it is 'just ok'.

I don't get that vibe at all.
Loving this cd, was worth the wait entirely.

[AsianPersuAsian]

I wish the vocals were brought out more. It's really hard to understand what he's saying. Also, the musical intros are kind of long. I'm sure the CD will grow on me though.

[chokeychicken]

i really really question you guys that have already determined this record to be your favorite cd "ever."

it just came out 72 hours ago. christ.

[ACA]

A lot of Thursday songs are connected.

Dying In New Brunswick / Sugar In The Sacrament
Understanding In A Crash / Other Side
Jet Black New Year / Tomorrow I'll Be You
Counting 5-4-3-2-1 / Running From The Rain

I bet How Long Is The Night and Autumn Leaves Revisited are linked, too, but I don't know an official word on that.

-ACA

[RememberFminus]

Ok i kind of have a crazy opinion on this cd. I without a doubt think this is the best album Thursday has ever written and not only that, its also one of the best albums in this scene or in rock. What devestates me is the production. Some of it is PErfect, but some of it is awful. Geoff has one of the most distcint passionate vocals around, but sometimes he guess mixed way down. I tried listening on all types of cd players but there are times where he just gets drowned out. Granted there are moments of sheer excellence where the production brought about sounds you wouldnt hear other wise. but i really think the vocals need a kick up and sometimes the guitars get muddled.

other than that this album is amazing. Running from the rain is probably one of my favorite songs ever. and autumn leaves revisited is shocking.

[lookitsmarc]

Does anyone else's lyric book to this CD have a defect in it? The lyrics to "Running From The Rain" cut off after the line "there were some younger kids" and it doesn't have the lyrics for "Telegraph Avenue Kiss". There is just blank space where this should be.

[Drew Beringer]

This is my second favorite cd behind Moneen for the year so far.

[Drew Beringer]

Does anyone else's lyric book to this CD have a defect in it? The lyrics to "Running From The Rain" cut off after the line "there were some younger kids" and it doesn't have the lyrics for "Telegraph Avenue Kiss". There is just blank space where this should be.

nah, my booklet has it all, that sucks for you thouhg :(

[ACA]

nah, my booklet has it all, that sucks for you thouhg :(

Nah, good for him.

He can either A) return it for a refund/exchange or B) hold onto it knowing that in ten years it will be worth some cash.

-ACA

[mybreakingpoint]

this album is out of this world.

i think i may be the only person on the planet who likes War All The Time more than Full Collapse, but that's ok. i am in love with both of them, but i love A City By The Light Divided better than both. i am in love with it. tracks 1,5, 7, 8, and 11 are my favorite. the b-side is very good as well.

[last light]

this album is out of this world.

i think i may be the only person on the planet who likes War All The Time more than Full Collapse, but that's ok. i am in love with both of them, but i love A City By The Light Divided better than both. i am in love with it. tracks 1,5, 7, 8, and 11 are my favorite. the b-side is very good as well.

wooooooo havent seen you in some time

[jrtbighurt]

i just picked it up at best buy, but had the decision of getting the regular or limited edition cd...i opted for the regular becasue it was 2 bucks cheaper and it didn't seem like there was any difference minus the jewel case.

Does anyone know what's so limited about the limited edition one?

[moises_naruto]

Thank You Tate For Finally Posting A Thursday Thread... I Was Gettin Sick Of All The Threads Ap.net Made About Tbs.....

So It Was A 3 Years Wait For Acbtld.... And I Loved This Record Even Before I Heard It, Thursday Can Do No Wrong In My Eyes.... People Must Not Compare This Record To Full Collapse, Thursday Will Never Do Another Full Collapse... And I Agree With Them, This Is Their Most Complete Album Ever... Just Like Tate Said, The Small Details Make This Album Great..... I See No Weak Songs On The Record....amazing Lyrics And Great Music Arrangements.....and It's Easily My Favorite Record Of The Year

Sorry Drew, But New Moneen Is Not Better Than New Thursday....




On Another Subject..... People On Ap.net Need To Check Out The New Tool Album... 10,000 Days, Its Amazing....

[marbury1414]

i just picked it up at best buy, but had the decision of getting the regular or limited edition cd...i opted for the regular becasue it was 2 bucks cheaper and it didn't seem like there was any difference minus the jewel case.

Does anyone know what's so limited about the limited edition one?

Haha, "what's so limited?" That made me laugh.

[tbsrocks820]

great cd. im convinced they cant go wrong.

track 3 is the worst song to me and the interlude is weak. almost kills the energy after at this velocity. still love it though.

[The Fix]

Great great record, great production, great lyrics, great everything...I don't understand the beef with the production, I think it's outstanding

totally surpassed my expectations

and how great is The Lovesong Writer

[Drew Beringer]

Sorry Drew, But New Moneen Is Not Better Than New Thursday....

It's all opinion my friend.

[ACA]

Thank You Tate For Finally Posting A Thursday Thread... I Was Gettin Sick Of All The Threads Ap.net Made About Tbs.....

So It Was A 3 Years Wait For Acbtld.... And I Loved This Record Even Before I Heard It, Thursday Can Do No Wrong In My Eyes.... People Must Not Compare This Record To Full Collapse, Thursday Will Never Do Another Full Collapse... And I Agree With Them, This Is Their Most Complete Album Ever... Just Like Tate Said, The Small Details Make This Album Great..... I See No Weak Songs On The Record....amazing Lyrics And Great Music Arrangements.....and It's Easily My Favorite Record Of The Year

Sorry Drew, But New Moneen Is Not Better Than New Thursday....
On Another Subject..... People On Ap.net Need To Check Out The New Tool Album... 10,000 Days, Its Amazing....

I thought you had to be 13 to post on AP.net?

-ACA

[zizou1790]

i love it

[crowquill]

good but not great.

[allisterkid]

Fucking amazing as always. Thursday refuse to fail. They have never released a bad CD or a decent CD, or for that matter even a good CD... always fucking amazing. My favorite songs on it are The Lovesong Writer, At This Velocity, The Other Side Of The Crash, and Autumn Leaves Revisited. And it was extremely hard to limit it down to four favorite songs.

[domesticyeti]

i love it. i really liked it the first listen tuesday afternoon, and since then i think it's just kept growing on me. in a month or so, this could easily be one of my favorite alltime records.
definetly the second best Thursday CD thus far (Behind FC, of course)

[ForTheBest]

The production isn't the best, but other than that, the music and the lyrics are incredible. The songs translate so well live. Sugar In The Sacrament is my favorite song. If I had to rank their records I would say Full Collapse is my favorite, then Waiting, then close behins is ACBTLD, then WATL

[zizou1790]

I thought you had to be 13 to post on AP.net?

-ACA

hahaha oucccch

[RememberFminus]

Great great record, great production, great lyrics, great everything...I don't understand the beef with the production, I think it's outstanding

totally surpassed my expectations

and how great is The Lovesong Writer

i have a question dont you ever have trouble hearing some of geoffs vocals? dont you think they got over powered sometimes.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

I agree with the previous production complaints. At first when I played the album I thought that maybe my copy was defective, mainly because of all the assurances that the quality of the Myspace stream in no way reflected the actual album's sound. Raw is one thing but I think Thursday might have gone a little overboard with that idea. I know that everyone is sick of the whole bringing up "Full Collapse" thing, but to me the production on that album is perfect; a bit raw but still refined. I like "War All the Time," but the drum sound bothers me; too tinny. With that said, I think the songwriting on "A City" is wonderful. I especially like on "The Other Side" when the song returns to full blast after the little interlude, and then builds until it just explodes. It kind of reminds me of On the Might of Princes' "For Meg" when the volume keeps increasing until you think your speakers will blow. I also really enjoy "Into the Blinding Light"; one of the best songs Thursday has written, in my opinion. Oh, and does anyone else think that the video for "Counting" is sweet. Finally, I have two questions if anyone can answer.
1. I understand that the limited edition is limited in terms of quantity, but what more does the booklet include than the standard copy?
2. Regarding the b-side: What kind of song is it and why did they leave it off the album. I thought about downloading it, but if it's another slow song I don't think I'll bother.

[weworemasks]

yeah i still can't get into it either....the lyrics are great as usual but i find the songs kinda dull or lacking in passion compared to other thursday cds and the production is awful. i like raw sounding cds but this just does takes it too far.

i havent fully gotten into it because of the production aspects of his voice being drowned out by the music. it still sounds great, and i love alot of the songs, well see in time.

also.....the cd case says "enhanced cd" but when i put it in my computer....nothing. anyone else having this problem?

also, the artwork/layout/texture of this record is unfuckingbelievable. i was completely floored by the aesthetics of the album. best ive seen in years. at least since rxbandit's "the resignation."
edit: it also smells really good.

[sweethypocrisy]

The production is fine for me, and the difference is what quality you have it at. the 64 kbps stream on myspace was shit, however, i have it ripped at 320 and the production is great besides the fact that the bass is too loud sometimes. I think the album is amazing, it might even be better than Full collapse (which is my favorite album of all time). The only way to get the full effect of the cd is to listen front to back, its an album, not 11 songs.
favorite songs:
The lovesong writer
telegraph avenue kiss
Autumn leaves revisted
even the sand is made of seashells

[meeotch]

I agree with the previous production complaints. At first when I played the album I thought that maybe my copy was defective, mainly because of all the assurances that the quality of the Myspace stream in no way reflected the actual album's sound. Raw is one thing but I think Thursday might have gone a little overboard with that idea. I know that everyone is sick of the whole bringing up "Full Collapse" thing, but to me the production on that album is perfect; a bit raw but still refined. I like "War All the Time," but the drum sound bothers me; too tinny. With that said, I think the songwriting on "A City" is wonderful. I especially like on "The Other Side" when the song returns to full blast after the little interlude, and then builds until it just explodes. It kind of reminds me of On the Might of Princes' "For Meg" when the volume keeps increasing until you think your speakers will blow. I also really enjoy "Into the Blinding Light"; one of the best songs Thursday has written, in my opinion. Oh, and does anyone else think that the video for "Counting" is sweet. Finally, I have two questions if anyone can answer.
1. I understand that the limited edition is limited in terms of quantity, but what more does the booklet include than the standard copy?
2. Regarding the b-side: What kind of song is it and why did they leave it off the album. I thought about downloading it, but if it's another slow song I don't think I'll bother.



i agree, they may have went a bit too far with the production. im pleased that they have stepped away from their old style, "screamo" i guess, whatever. absolutely love the keys on this record. not my favorite track but i really enjoy "Arc – Lamps, Signal Flares, A Shower Of White (The Light)". completely sets the tone for the rest of the record. i also agree with drew's review, the 2nd half of the album is much better.


and i have the same question, i got the supposed limited edition, what makes it different besides the case?

[nintendocore]

the production is dreadful. some of it sounds so dulled out and such, but don't get me wrong i love it. as with almost everyone else it goes, full collapse, acbtld, watt...

[tedE]

yeah i still can't get into it either....the lyrics are great as usual but i find the songs kinda dull or lacking in passion compared to other thursday cds and the production is awful. i like raw sounding cds but this just does takes it too far.

Agreed, I think that's what killed it for me. The raw sound takes away from the passion of Geoff's singing. It just sounds so muddled and blah.

[Tony]

I like it, but I don't love it. Yet. I find myself wanting to skip the 3rd track a lot. I'm in the minority: I actually kind of like the production values, but Geoff's voice does get lost in the shuffle a lot of the time. Which I suppose is a pretty big complaint. But I do like the raw energy of it. I'd say it stands a good chance of cracking the top 10 for me, but it's not better than War All The Time (which still stands as my favorite Thursday album). Probably not better than Full Collapse either, but time will tell.

[_Thursday]

any ideas on how sales have been doing?

[dekdog11]

I think this is the best album Thursday has released to date. I know its all opinion based, but I do indeed think that they 'buried full collapse' as there was a thread a long time ago that said they wanted to do that.

Thursday can do no wrong, and this cd is fantastic. From beginning to end, and even the instrumental track, all of it flows very well, and it exceeded my expectations.

[sweethypocrisy]

i cant believe anyone could say this cd lacks passion...did you even listen to the lovesong writer? autumn leaves revisited?

[quiksilver21k]

It is my favorite Thursday album so far. A lot of it reminds me of The Mars Volta...only because of all the things that are going on. It is very "busy". But I also think that Dave Friedman did an excellent job. Its near impossible to mix an album like that with SO many BLARING guitars. Telegraph Avenue Kiss and Autumn Leaves Revisited are AMAZING.

[The Fix]

i have a question dont you ever have trouble hearing some of geoffs vocals? dont you think they got over powered sometimes.

Yeah it never occured to me as a problem...I love the production

[drudo182]

I think I like it most of all. Not sure.

Fav tracks:
> Arc - Lamps, Signal Flares, A Shower of White (The Light)
> Running from the Rain
> Telegraph Avenue Kiss
> We Will Overcome

[Lovewaslove]

I am the biggest Thursday fan, With that said This cd Blows, Maybe its cause I had high hopes Maybe its cause they took the time to make this album and I thought it was gonna be bigger than anything they have done, Maybe its cause In new Jersey Geoff Said Our goal with this album is to BURY FULL COLLAPSE. Now let me start by saying War all the time isnt as bad as many people think it is, It isnt as bad as I thought it was when I first heard it. Its a great album, Its not a full collapse but Its still a great album. This album Is so underproduced. His vocals sound shitty, And they Dont scream anymore? What the fuck is that all about. Thursday Has always been the Leader of this Genre, A band other bands Respect and have looked up to. I dont care for too many other bands in this gener (except Glass Jaw) But thursday has always kept it real. 54321 is the worst thursday song ever made. DOnt tell me your gonna bury Full collapse and Release this crappy radio friendly watered down Thursday B side as a single. Singles over the air Was Radio Friendly but it was GOOD it had a good message and rocked. The biggest dissapointment in this cd Is THe guitar sound. Thursday, to me, Invented that sound The two guitars playing diffrent parts but sounds as one. On this album The distortion isnt Raw enough, Its sounds fake. (think metallicas last album) At times the rythem is not understandable Which if done correctly can be awesome (think Glassjaw) but does not work at all for Thursday. No Screaming, Low Vocals, And shity distortion. I think weve lost another one Major labels 3 (Thrice, My chemical Romance) Us 1 (praying..Glassjaw gets back)

[KidLightning]

"The Lovesong Writer" is the best song that Thursday has ever written . . . oh, and I liked "Counting 5-4-3-2-1" from the first time I heard it, but it sounds so much better within the flow of the CD.

[lfdfforever]

wonderful,beauitful album

[KidLightning]

I am the biggest Thursday fan, With that said This cd Blows, Maybe its cause I had high hopes Maybe its cause they took the time to make this album and I thought it was gonna be bigger than anything they have done, Maybe its cause In new Jersey Geoff Said Our goal with this album is to BURY FULL COLLAPSE. Now let me start by saying War all the time isnt as bad as many people think it is, It isnt as bad as I thought it was when I first heard it. Its a great album, Its not a full collapse but Its still a great album. This album Is so underproduced. His vocals sound shitty, And they Dont scream anymore? What the fuck is that all about. Thursday Has always been the Leader of this Genre, A band other bands Respect and have looked up to. I dont care for too many other bands in this gener (except Glass Jaw) But thursday has always kept it real. 54321 is the worst thursday song ever made. DOnt tell me your gonna bury Full collapse and Release this crappy radio friendly watered down Thursday B side as a single. Singles over the air Was Radio Friendly but it was GOOD it had a good message and rocked. The biggest dissapointment in this cd Is THe guitar sound. Thursday, to me, Invented that sound The two guitars playing diffrent parts but sounds as one. On this album The distortion isnt Raw enough, Its sounds fake. (think metallicas last album) At times the rythem is not understandable Which if done correctly can be awesome (think Glassjaw) but does not work at all for Thursday. No Screaming, Low Vocals, And shity distortion. I think weve lost another one Major labels 3 (Thrice, My chemical Romance) Us 1 (praying..Glassjaw gets back)
that was the most incomprehensible load of crap I've ever read in my life.

Oh, and what would Ralph Macchio do? He'd "Karate Kid" kick you in the face, that's what.

[ACA]

I am the biggest Thursday fan, With that said This cd Blows, Maybe its cause I had high hopes Maybe its cause they took the time to make this album and I thought it was gonna be bigger than anything they have done, Maybe its cause In new Jersey Geoff Said Our goal with this album is to BURY FULL COLLAPSE. Now let me start by saying War all the time isnt as bad as many people think it is, It isnt as bad as I thought it was when I first heard it. Its a great album, Its not a full collapse but Its still a great album. This album Is so underproduced. His vocals sound shitty, And they Dont scream anymore? What the fuck is that all about. Thursday Has always been the Leader of this Genre, A band other bands Respect and have looked up to. I dont care for too many other bands in this gener (except Glass Jaw) But thursday has always kept it real. 54321 is the worst thursday song ever made. DOnt tell me your gonna bury Full collapse and Release this crappy radio friendly watered down Thursday B side as a single. Singles over the air Was Radio Friendly but it was GOOD it had a good message and rocked. The biggest dissapointment in this cd Is THe guitar sound. Thursday, to me, Invented that sound The two guitars playing diffrent parts but sounds as one. On this album The distortion isnt Raw enough, Its sounds fake. (think metallicas last album) At times the rythem is not understandable Which if done correctly can be awesome (think Glassjaw) but does not work at all for Thursday. No Screaming, Low Vocals, And shity distortion. I think weve lost another one Major labels 3 (Thrice, My chemical Romance) Us 1 (praying..Glassjaw gets back)

...walls of text are rarely intelligible/relevant/meaningful.

No exception here.

-ACA

[WhnFnalySetFree]

pretty good. i wouldn't say it tops WATT or Full Collapse. but i still gotta give it some time. i need to hurry up and learn these songs cause I'm seeing them Monday >_<. Anyone know what songs they're gonna play?

[xHittheWallx]

meh. it's okay.

[trustmeimokay]

I love this album so much. It's only behind POS in cd of the year honors right now.

[HiddenInNJ]

my least fav thursday album ever....

you are on crack... and this is 2nd to Full Collapse... Running from the rain, lovesong writer, at this velocity, autumn leaves revisited are all good... production in general sucks on the cd because there are times you can barely hear geoff

[HiddenInNJ]

I am the biggest Thursday fan, With that said This cd Blows, Maybe its cause I had high hopes Maybe its cause they took the time to make this album and I thought it was gonna be bigger than anything they have done, Maybe its cause In new Jersey Geoff Said Our goal with this album is to BURY FULL COLLAPSE. Now let me start by saying War all the time isnt as bad as many people think it is, It isnt as bad as I thought it was when I first heard it. Its a great album, Its not a full collapse but Its still a great album. This album Is so underproduced. His vocals sound shitty, And they Dont scream anymore? What the fuck is that all about. Thursday Has always been the Leader of this Genre, A band other bands Respect and have looked up to. I dont care for too many other bands in this gener (except Glass Jaw) But thursday has always kept it real. 54321 is the worst thursday song ever made. DOnt tell me your gonna bury Full collapse and Release this crappy radio friendly watered down Thursday B side as a single. Singles over the air Was Radio Friendly but it was GOOD it had a good message and rocked. The biggest dissapointment in this cd Is THe guitar sound. Thursday, to me, Invented that sound The two guitars playing diffrent parts but sounds as one. On this album The distortion isnt Raw enough, Its sounds fake. (think metallicas last album) At times the rythem is not understandable Which if done correctly can be awesome (think Glassjaw) but does not work at all for Thursday. No Screaming, Low Vocals, And shity distortion. I think weve lost another one Major labels 3 (Thrice, My chemical Romance) Us 1 (praying..Glassjaw gets back)

good thing you can spell genre right idiot

[7HD]

surprised no one has said anything about we will over come, thats one of my favorites, along with the instrumental, actually the flow of tracks 5,6,7 are amazing.

[1morDRINKplz]

i love this cd sooo much
at first i was ehh but it really grew on me like im sure it did for many
the lovesong writer is so beautifull and def one of my fav thursday songs ever

hope they play it at bamboozleee ::crosses fingers::

[IcedOpethBlind]

gosh, so many damn records out lately that i still need mroe time and listens for this.

[rupture&rapture]

this album is out of this world.

i think i may be the only person on the planet who likes War All The Time more than Full Collapse, but that's ok. i am in love with both of them, but i love A City By The Light Divided better than both. i am in love with it. tracks 1,5, 7, 8, and 11 are my favorite. the b-side is very good as well.

Nope, i totally agree. WATT is better than Full Collapse. I don't know why so many people are obsessed with it. And when WATT people bitched cause it wasn't as screamy. There's more to music than "screams" and on WATT they repleased those screams with more of a yelling. I think WATT takes more time to grow on you but once it does it's amazing. "M. Shepard" is one of their most aggressive songs. But i think this tops WATT and Full Collapse and Waiting. But Thursday will never do the same record twice, people need to deal with that. Emotion can be expressed in other ways then screaming.

[rupture&rapture]

I am the biggest Thursday fan, With that said This cd Blows, Maybe its cause I had high hopes Maybe its cause they took the time to make this album and I thought it was gonna be bigger than anything they have done, Maybe its cause In new Jersey Geoff Said Our goal with this album is to BURY FULL COLLAPSE. Now let me start by saying War all the time isnt as bad as many people think it is, It isnt as bad as I thought it was when I first heard it. Its a great album, Its not a full collapse but Its still a great album. This album Is so underproduced. His vocals sound shitty, And they Dont scream anymore? What the fuck is that all about. Thursday Has always been the Leader of this Genre, A band other bands Respect and have looked up to. I dont care for too many other bands in this gener (except Glass Jaw) But thursday has always kept it real. 54321 is the worst thursday song ever made. DOnt tell me your gonna bury Full collapse and Release this crappy radio friendly watered down Thursday B side as a single. Singles over the air Was Radio Friendly but it was GOOD it had a good message and rocked. The biggest dissapointment in this cd Is THe guitar sound. Thursday, to me, Invented that sound The two guitars playing diffrent parts but sounds as one. On this album The distortion isnt Raw enough, Its sounds fake. (think metallicas last album) At times the rythem is not understandable Which if done correctly can be awesome (think Glassjaw) but does not work at all for Thursday. No Screaming, Low Vocals, And shity distortion. I think weve lost another one Major labels 3 (Thrice, My chemical Romance) Us 1 (praying..Glassjaw gets back)

Hahah. So basically you're stuck in the "Summer of screamo". That's cute.
Bands change, and grow. Deal with it. This album is not that radio friendly.
But I hope you learn how to spell correctly before you go to the 10th grade. If you're the biggest Thursday fan than you would obviously know that it's called "Signals over the air" And 5-4-3-2-1 does have a message. Grow up. Thaaaaanks.

[NeonBlonde407]

am i the only one that really liked war all the time?

[Rent Boy]

yea its very good but i dont think they will ever be able to touch full collapse again sadly

[rupture&rapture]

am i the only one that really liked war all the time?

Nope, I love it. You're one of the few that probably gave it a chance without comparing it to Full Collapse though.

[MarkyMark1984]

i really enjoy it. "Running From the Rain" is probably my favorite track so far, but it is a solid album in my opinion. I agree with whoever reviewed it on this site that the 2nd half of the album is much better than the first half, but i really like the first half as well, so it makes for a good cd.

[konfusion151]

great cd. im convinced they cant go wrong.

track 3 is the worst song to me and the interlude is weak. almost kills the energy after at this velocity. still love it though.


agree..sorta. i think track 3 (sugar in the sacrament) is my least favorite..but i love the end of it though..very intense..actually kind of reminds me of full collapse. and umm this song is before at this velocity so i dont know what you are talking about it killing the energy of that song..it actually builds it up

like most people this is my second favorite thursday album behind full collapse..however im trying my best not to compare it to full collapse because i knew they werent going to make the same album.. hmm what else do i have to say. the production doesnt seem to bother me..ive only listened to it on my computer though and the sound coming out of my speakers is always perfect..

lyrics are amazing as usual. love all the new things they tried with the music too. im glad the entire album isnt like counting 5 4 3 2 1 because then it would have reminded me of taking back sundays new release which i think completely lacks any passion and is just a bunch of pop (granted i still love the pop sound they made and ive been listening to it a lot since it came out as well haha)

but i like the direction thursday took with their new album more than the direction tbs took

[jnkbondtrader]

with the excpetion of the production being sub-par, this is a great album. currently this ranks third for me after full collapse and waiting.

[frommelyty]

track 9 is amazing.

[Veritas11]

I probably need a few more listens but it's going to be in my top 5 at the end of the year. Some parts work for me and other parts don't. The music and lyrics are top notch but the vocals are constantly drowned out by the music. I don't know if that is part of the "live" experience they were going for during recording but I like hearing vocals in songs. Overall though it is everything I could have hoped for. the loud fast parts are louder and faster (At This Velocity, Into The Blinding Light), and the slower parts are even more epic and powerful than I ever could have imagined (Autumn Leaves Revisited). Great band, great album.

[Ambulance X]

Full Collapse> ACBTLD > War all the Time

Yes the production bugs me a little too

[Teddythegr8one]

this got a 5 of 5 in ap mag.. i got my issue with tbs on it today.. i love the cd

[Alt_fate83]

I can't stop playing the new Atreyu or TBS cd for long enough to listen to the new thursday again.. i guess i have to give it time to grow on me ... one CD that sadly hasnt grown on me yet is the the new saves the day, Ive listen to it plenty of times and its not bad its just not that great either , i have no desire to listen to it, i dont know what it is but i do not want to accept the fact that STD has let me down again

[deekismusic]

Not totally impressed by the album, but will always love the band. I can't believe you'd disregard Waiting, second best at LEAST!

[walshknilb281]

Telegraph Avenue Kiss is fucking epic. Sick way to end the CD

[whipcream4teen]

I only like 3 songs and I'm disappointed.

[fooboy1212]

I'm sure I would love it but I decided to order through Tower.com......needless to say it's still not here.

[SummerxStars]

its 15 dollars, so i havent picked it up yet

[andrewiodm]

WATT > FC > WAITING > ACBTLD


i just doesnt hold my attention


still one of my top ten bands

im more disapointed in this album than tbs thou


i knew they were gunna make an album that sounded like all their other ones

tbs is the punk rock oasis

[idlewillkill]

I think im the only one who thinks that replies that begin with any variation of "i think im the only one who..." (that are innevitably follwed up with someone who wholeheartedly agrees with you) should be outlawed on AP.

[bf_nk]

Nope, i totally agree. WATT is better than Full Collapse. I don't know why so many people are obsessed with it. And when WATT people bitched cause it wasn't as screamy. There's more to music than "screams" and on WATT they repleased those screams with more of a yelling. I think WATT takes more time to grow on you but once it does it's amazing. "M. Shepard" is one of their most aggressive songs. But i think this tops WATT and Full Collapse and Waiting. But Thursday will never do the same record twice, people need to deal with that. Emotion can be expressed in other ways then screaming.

Touche' my friend. First time I heard Running from the rain I got chills.

[tedE]

i cant believe anyone could say this cd lacks passion...did you even listen to the lovesong writer? autumn leaves revisited?

We didn't say it lacked passion, we said the passion of Geoff's vocals is drowned out by the muddled guitar. It'd be a great record if the production was a little better.

[rupture&rapture]

Touche' my friend. First time I heard Running from the rain I got chills.

Yea man. I agree. That's my favorite track at the moment.

[stfu_man]

the first track bothers me because at some points you can't hear geoff's vocals that well. telegraph avenue kiss is probably my favorite track so far although i'm not sure if i like the lyrics better in this version or the demo. nonetheless, it's awesome. it also makes me laugh every time when i listen to at this velocity and he quickly says 'okay' before singing. i still need more time to feel it though. full collapse will never been beat, srsly.

[RememberFminus]

WATT > FC > WAITING > ACBTLD


i just doesnt hold my attention


still one of my top ten bands

im more disapointed in this album than tbs thou


i knew they were gunna make an album that sounded like all their other ones

tbs is the punk rock oasis


did you just refer to tbs as punk rock?

you are a fucking idiot

[wkebrder35]

I was expecting a great album from thursday, and I waited in anticipation for its release. War All The Time was somewhat of a dissapointment for me, but I still enjoy it. I was just hoping for something better than that. I was not expecting A City By The Light Divided to be their best album ever, and in my opinion it is. for a few reasons:

1) the fluidity of the songs is seamless. from start to finish, there is not an oddly placed track, of course they challenge you with 'sugar in the sacrament' by placing it in the third slot (usually for the single), but when you take this album as a whole, you realize its perfect.

2) the concept of the songs, the meanings behind the lyrics, the passion in geoff's voice, the vocal melodies, constant hooks between keyboards, guitars, and drums, it leaves me baffled. the sheer genius of their song structure is astounding. with war all of the time they tried to move into very unique song structures(war all the time) which i think at times made songs lose a lot of energy. none of these songs lose energy, and in most cases just keep building, and building to monstrous levels of intensity.

3) it is so refreshing to hear the "thursday" message again. with so many bands these days writing the same lyrically focused songs, which isn't necessarily bad by any means, it is great to hear songs about rising above the things in life that hold us back. the ethereal chorus of 'we will overcome' gives me chills everytime. the emotion and passion is evident in every song and it really sounds like they mean it this time.

4) i keep reading a lot of people complaining about the production, but i really don't see where they are coming from. i think they got the album off bittorrent and/or streaming it. sonically speaking, every instrument is voiced wonderfully. the bass punches out at the right moments, the drums are ridiculously well mic'ed and the guitar tones are quite amazing and unique. possibly geoff's voice might get lost in the mix sometimes but im sure without a doubt, that's what they intended.

sorry i just about wrote a fucking essay, but this album is the best album of the year so far BY FAR! taking back sunday did a nice job, but as an album as a whole, louder now lacks of lot of the concept and fluidity of 'a city by the light divided'. in my opinion this album is better musically than full collapse, now i'm not saying it will change my life as much as full collapse, but musically, structurally, and quality of song-wise, this album blows all their previous efforts out of the water. yeah, ok, there's not much "screaming", but hey i hear Senses Fail is putting out a new album in a couple months, so ask your parents for your pre-order money now. face the facts, thursday grew up, and i think with this album they were hoping their fans could do the same. thank you thursday, for making me fall back in love with your band.

[Whatchawant17]

it's boring... War all the time is by far thier most passionate work

[dyingurthhorizo]

I was at the secret show on Wednesday. Let me if you are bitching about production go see them do it live. Running from the rain was amaaaazzzziiinnnggggg. They also played Porcelain. By far and large this is Thursday's art-core album. That's what it is, hardcore thrown in with artistic genius. Each Thursday album is different. And I'm happy that's the way it is.


WE WILL OVERCOME IF NO ONE SLEEPS TONIGHT!

[moonlights]

i like the songs, i like them a lot. but they would grow on me a lot faster if it sounded better.

4) i keep reading a lot of people complaining about the production, but i really don't see where they are coming from. i think they got the album off bittorrent and/or streaming it. sonically speaking, every instrument is voiced wonderfully. the bass punches out at the right moments, the drums are ridiculously well mic'ed and the guitar tones are quite amazing and unique. possibly geoff's voice might get lost in the mix sometimes but im sure without a doubt, that's what they intended.


4) no, i definitely purchased the cd and the production quality is horrid.

i'm sad, taking back sunday was not quite all i expected it to be and while a city by the light divded is good, it's just not as good as it could be because of the production, it's not holding itself in my stereo very well. there goes two of the three upcoming cds i was looking forward to. :[

and for all of you saying go see it live, believe me, i'd love to if i was ever given a chance. unfortunately, that doesn't really happen in a small city in the middle of nowhere with a shitty scene.

am i the only one that really liked war all the time?
i loved war all the time. a lot more than full collapse, actually. as of right now war all the time is by far my favorite thursday album.

[illusion]

i dont understand anyone who says that thursday made a "huge step forward" or who applaud this production and dont recognize the genius that was thrice's vheissu. THAT was a huge artistic step forward and a (well-executed) risk. THAT was great production! (atlantic/the earth will shake/red sky/hold fast hope)
my two cents.

[kwintz]

ACBTLD>WATT>FC>WAITING

Maybe it's because i discovered Thursday just months before WATT was released in 2003, but i just don't understand why everyone is still so in love with Full Collapse. It's an excellent album. Excellent. I love it and there isn't one song on FC that i can skip. It's beautiful. But it just doesn't hit me as hard as WATT or ACBTLD does. Call me crazy, call me what you will, but that's the truth. War All The Time, upon first listen, didn't click with me. I hated it. But i kept listening and slowly but surely everything fell into place and it became one of my favorite albums of all time. It's just so chaotic yet so touching at the same time.

And then ACBTLD was released. I had never anticipated an album as much as this one. At first listen, i wasn't greatly impressed (every great album takes quite a few listens to click). ANd then on my seventh or eighth run through during INTO THE BLINDING LIGHT, it all fell into place. That song gives me chills. It's just so intense and the lyrics are brilliant. So i kept listening to the cd over and over, and it kept growing on me more and more each and every time. This album is ridiculous. In my humble opinion (after listening to the album upwards of 20 times), this is the second greatest album of this decade, just behind Brand New's DEJA ENTENDU.

Favorite tracks? Into the Blinding Light, At This Velocity, Telegraph Ave. Kiss, Autumn Leaves Revisted and The Otherside of the Crash and i could just name every song b/c they're all just simply amazing.

Simply put, i think this record is going to be one of those timeless albums that people can still really get into years from now. It's breathtaking and i love it.

[phoenixdown]

My opinion: Thursday probably went for a sloppier production job as a statement against the waves of overproduced poppy crap that bands are putting out. It reminds me of some of the old original emocore bands (Native Nod, Moss Icon, Indian Summer, et c.) where sometimes you can hardly tell there is a singer at all. It's not that bad on this album, but it hints at the same aesthetic.

Or... maybe it's just badly produced. I like it though.

[Troy will Fall]

The Lovesong Writer! Best song ever written.

[likepaperplanes]

my least fav thursday album ever....

I agree.
I'm actually really dissapointed with it. But then again, War All The Time is my favorite album, which doesn't seem to be the case with most people.
I hope it grows on me eventually. I hate not liking it, ha.

I think what I hate the most is how his voice sounds so edited. If it werent for that, I'd like it a lot more.

[likepaperplanes]

it's boring... War all the time is by far thier most passionate work

definitely.

[axl rose]

Garbage. The CD sucks

[michaeljennings]

one of the best releases this year so far.

[Lovewaslove]

I beg to differ, War all the time Sounds Exactly like Full Collapse Just better production, Less artistic musical break downs. The Music on full collapse is the best out of any thursday cd, The guitar work, and song structures, And the screams sound Raw, and Real. I dont think They are bad on WATT but on this new one they are horrible, and most times non exsistent

[lookitsmarc]

I really hope this CD grows on me. I just get bored too quickly. Full Collapse was just epic. I miss songs like Concealer and Autobiography of a Nation.

I was secretly hoping this CD would be more in the style of Jet Black New Year.

[Lovewaslove]

When the first released Jet black new year right after Full collapse I was so pumped for War all the time, War all the time was nothing like JBNY but that album defenitly grows on you. I dont get how people like WAr all the time over FC doesnt make any sence? War all the time is the step child of full collapse And this new cd is a product of an unplanned marriage Like most of the people that post on this website. Lets just say this album was a "nut" that should of been swallowed...

Running from the rain is a good track, maybe the only one

Does anyone else think the last track, that Geoff Sounds like Bright eyes sounds like something off Fevors and Mirrors, Maybe its the lack of production.

They intentionally switched producers for this album. I think they should go back into studio and rerecord these songs for all of us there from day 1. If u werent there fromd ay one then you dont exsist to me. SO dont respond to this post, and do yourself a favor and Take off your my chemical romance tshirt and hang yourself with it

[Lovewaslove]

I have to say with all my negativity, I still think this album will end up in all top 10 list, Because Music needs a new kick to the nuts, There is nothing new out, Nothing good out. And Taking back sunday shouldnt be on the top 10 but will probably out of lack of options...

Now begins the wait for Brand new....and Bright eyes.....

I will be picking up the new head automatica cd tho and that is going into my number 1 slot. Cause Daryl is a genius

(shit) Now I gotta do something about my Thursday tatoo

[notArealperson]

great cd. I like it better than full collapse

[a speedo model]

i'm really loving it so far, although the production is annoying. it's a verly solid album.

[a speedo model]

great cd. I like it better than full collapse

i actually never really liked full collapse. i got into them with war all the time.

[My_tragedy_xXx]

I llove thursday.... dont you???

[BIGDeVriendt]

yeah i still can't get into it either....the lyrics are great as usual but i find the songs kinda dull or lacking in passion compared to other thursday cds and the production is awful. i like raw sounding cds but this just does takes it too far.

i agree.

[Love As Arson]

even the sand is made of seashells
I need this song. Someone pm me it.

[TylerDurden911]

I'm in total awe of this album. I realized with WATT there was no way they were ever going back to something like Full Collapse, and I believe that's a good thing. Their progression is amazing, and I won't hesitate before saying that, in my opinion, this is their best album. There's something truly epic about the songs and the album as a whole that wasn't there on previous releases, the emotion is just so intense, the buildups in and between the songs, everything about it is just breathtaking. I've been spinning this non-stop since tuesday (I'd been holding out before that, son I would only hear the real thing), and each and every time I hear it, I'm floored and I discover new subtleties, new details that make the songs so much better. I can definitely see this becoming one of my all time favorites, but only time will tell... As for the production, it did bug me the first couple of times, but I got used to it and I do feel it adds something to the feel of the album. It's very different from what we're used to nowadays, and I think that's a good thing. All in all, a breathtaking piece of art. Thursday truly can do no wrong.

[SteveLikesMusic]

it is Thursday's crowning acheivement, but it would be better if the vocals weren't so overproduced...geoff has such a great voice it doesnt need to be masked by all that crap.

Oh and for the record I think Waiting and Full Collapse are crap compared to the 2 newer ones.

[NoPenguinsInPA]

I beg to differ, War all the time Sounds Exactly like Full Collapse Just better production, Less artistic musical break downs. The Music on full collapse is the best out of any thursday cd, The guitar work, and song structures, And the screams sound Raw, and Real. I dont think They are bad on WATT but on this new one they are horrible, and most times non exsistent

i think i just got dumber.

[12:46AM]

Does anyone else's lyric book to this CD have a defect in it? The lyrics to "Running From The Rain" cut off after the line "there were some younger kids" and it doesn't have the lyrics for "Telegraph Avenue Kiss". There is just blank space where this should be.yeah, i've got the same problem. frick.

[TheBaroness]

personally, i'm s bit disappointed. although admittedly i've only listened to it a couple of times so far, it's just not grabbing me.

hopefully it'll stick soon, it took me a while to appreciate WATT (my favorite Thursday album) so perhaps ACBTLD will be a similar story. my primary disappointments are geoff's vocals (lost in the mix/slightly grating at times) and the fact that there just doesn't seem to be the passion present on WATT. love the thick basslines, though.

[likethesquid]

It sucks, I'm sorry.

[Alt_fate83]

i dont understand anyone who says that thursday made a "huge step forward" or who applaud this production and dont recognize the genius that was thrice's vheissu. THAT was a huge artistic step forward and a (well-executed) risk. THAT was great production! (atlantic/the earth will shake/red sky/hold fast hope)
my two cents.

genius??? taking one singe song format/ structure and repeating it for ever song in an entire CD isnt genious.. how about boring?

vheissu was the worst thing thrice ever did

[meeotch]

ok so ive listened to ACBTLD all the way through about 7 times now. I feel like a jackass for having any doubts against this album. it is rather incredible. so much emotion. who cares if there isnt much screaming. and for the record i enjoy full collapse and war all the time pretty equally. steps ascending is most likely my favorite thursday song, especially after seeing them perform it live, geoff explained the story behind.

[moonlights]

ok so ive listened to ACBTLD all the way through about 7 times now. I feel like a jackass for having any doubts against this album. it is rather incredible. so much emotion. who cares if there isnt much screaming. and for the record i enjoy full collapse and war all the time pretty equally. steps ascending is most likely my favorite thursday song, especially after seeing them perform it live, geoff explained the story behind.
what is the story? i love hearing the stories behind thursday songs...i think i saw it in the clips about the songs on the WATT site but i forgot...

[mirx999]

Geoff and his friend got in a fist fight, then his friend got shot before Geoff had a chance to apologize.

That said, ACBTLD is about on par with WATT, but both of them get curb stomped by Full Collapse.