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[saofan_315]

Wasteland

[aradiantsunrise]

Oh thanks.

[Zorlak]

APWP Night Of Champions 2010
Name : Carlos
Username : Zorlak

Sheamus(c) vs. Wade Barrett vs. Chris Jericho vs.Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Edge : WWE Championship (2pts)
Kane(c) vs. Undertaker: Word Heavyweight Championship(2pts)
Michelle McCool (or Layla) (c) vs. Melina (c) : Title Unification Match (1pt)
Big Show vs. CM Punk : (1pt)
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs. Kofi Kingston : Intercontinental Championship (1pt)
The Miz (c) vs. Daniel Bryan : United States Championship (1pt)

Spot Monkey (1pt) : Randy Orton - RKO

[jay_klinkhammer]

APWP Night Of Champions 2010
Name : Jay
Username : jay_klinkhammer

Sheamus(c) vs. Wade Barrett vs. Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Edge : WWE Championship (2pts)
Kane(c) vs. Undertaker: Word Heavyweight Championship(2pts)
Michelle McCool (or Layla) (c) vs. Melina (c) : Title Unification Match (1pt)
Big Show vs. CM Punk : (1pt)
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs. Kofi Kingston : Intercontinental Championship (1pt)
The Miz (c) vs. Daniel Bryan : United States Championship (1pt)

Spot Monkey (1pt) : Chris Jericho, Codebreaker

[jay_klinkhammer]

I'm guessing the Harts will have to be on this somewhere, are we just not counting it?

[CIMA]

I'm guessing the Harts will have to be on this somewhere, are we just not counting it?

Unless they have a match announced before the show starts theres no way to count it. We wouldnt know who they were facing.

Although I dont see them being on the card, unfortunately.

[MikeAL4W]

APWP Night Of Champions 2010
Name : Mike
Username : MikeAL4W

Sheamus(c) vs. Wade Barrett vs. Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Edge : WWE Championship (2pts)
Kane(c) vs. Undertaker: Word Heavyweight Championship(2pts)
Michelle McCool (or Layla]) (c) vs. Melina (c[b/]) : Title Unification Match (1pt)
Big Show vs. [B]CM Punk : (1pt)
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs. Kofi Kingston : Intercontinental Championship (1pt)
The Miz (c) vs. Daniel Bryan : United States Championship (1pt)

Spot Monkey (1pt) : Randy Orton, RKO

[VoiceoffCamera]

APWP Night Of Champions 2010
Name : Sanjay
Username : Voiceoffcamera

Sheamus(c) vs. Wade Barrett vs. Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Edge : WWE Championship (2pts)
Kane(c) vs. Undertaker: Word Heavyweight Championship(2pts)
Michelle McCool (or Layla) (c) vs. Melina (c) : Title Unification Match (1pt)
Big Show vs. CM Punk : (1pt)
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs. Kofi Kingston : Intercontinental Championship (1pt)
The Miz (c) vs. Daniel Bryan : United States Championship (1pt)

Spot Monkey (1pt) Chris Jericho - Codebreaker

[phillycheese37]

So I guess the sexy pick is for Sheamus to retain, huh?

[ArisonCain]

APWP Night Of Champions 2010
Name : Arison
Username : ArisonCain

Sheamus(c) vs. Wade Barrett vs. Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Edge : WWE Championship (2pts)
Kane(c) vs. Undertaker: Word Heavyweight Championship(2pts)
Michelle McCool (or Layla) (c) vs. Melina (c) : Title Unification Match (1pt)
Big Show vs. CM Punk : (1pt)
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs. Kofi Kingston : Intercontinental Championship (1pt)
The Miz (c) vs. Daniel Bryan : United States Championship (1pt)

Spot Monkey (1pt) : John Cena - STFU

[aradiantsunrise]

Hopefully they do have Punk win this feud, he hasn't gotten put over in a feud for quite sometime now.

[saofan_315]

Goldust tweeted that he's been asked to be present at Night of Champions. Maybe we'll see Goldust and Yoshi Tatsu involved in the Tag Titles match.

[RockTheWalls]

I think The Miz is going to cash in tomorrow night.

[jay_klinkhammer]

Hart Dynasty is confirmed but they didn't name who the team was.

[aradiantsunrise]

Should do a match with multiple teams. Maybe a gauntlet tag match.

[AshesAshes]

APWP Night Of Champions 2010
Name : Jon
Username : AshesAshes

Sheamus(c) vs. Wade Barrett vs. Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Edge : WWE Championship (2pts)
Kane(c) vs. Undertaker: Word Heavyweight Championship(2pts)
Michelle McCool (or Layla) (c) vs. Melina (c) : Title Unification Match (1pt)
Big Show vs. CM Punk : (1pt)
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs. Kofi Kingston : Intercontinental Championship (1pt)
The Miz (c) vs. Daniel Bryan : United States Championship (1pt)

Spot Monkey (1pt) John Cena STFU

[aradiantsunrise]

Gotta choose someone who you don't predict winning for the Spot Monkey.

[MikeAL4W]

So I guess the sexy pick is for Sheamus to retain, huh?
I was torn between him and SuperOrton.... It's too soon for Wade Barrett and hopefully we get E&C back at some point in the near future.

[MikeAL4W]

Should do a match with multiple teams. Maybe a gauntlet tag match.

This would be cool. Maybe Rick and Scott Steiner will showup and win the titles.

[aradiantsunrise]

This would be cool. Maybe Rick and Scott Steiner will showup and win the titles.

One can only hope.

[saofan_315]

I might have to take some time off of watching wrestling if that were to happen

[CIMA]

APWP Night Of Champions 2010
Name : Jon
Username : cima

Sheamus(c) vs. Wade Barrett vs. Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Edge : WWE Championship (2pts)
Kane(c) vs. Undertaker: Word Heavyweight Championship(2pts)
Michelle McCool (or Layla) (c) vs. Melina (c) : Title Unification Match (1pt)
Big Show vs. CM Punk : (1pt)
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs. Kofi Kingston : Intercontinental Championship (1pt)
The Miz (c) vs. Daniel Bryan : United States Championship (1pt)

Spot Monkey (1pt) Edge - Spear

[MikeAL4W]

One can only hope.

I might have to take some time off of watching wrestling if that were to happen

You guys know you miss the legendary promos big poppa cuts.

[iden22]

You guys know you miss the legendary promos big poppa cuts.

He's has to dumb himself down for us!

[aradiantsunrise]

You guys know you miss the legendary promos big poppa cuts.

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[GoWaitInTheCar]

Make sure to get your APWP picks in before tonight!

[about3fitty]

i cant believe you people actually watch this shit

[aradiantsunrise]

I can't believe it's not butter.

[saofan_315]

Believe it. It's real. It's damn real.

[RockTheWalls]

THE CHAMP'S PICKS
Sheamus(c) vs. Wade Barrett vs. Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Edge : WWE Championship (2pts)

The Miz comes and cashes his money in the bank after (500000000000000pts)
Eliminations will go Jericho-> Barrett-> Edge->Sheamus-> Cena I think as well (another 329230938209834 points)

Kane(c) vs. Undertaker: Word Heavyweight Championship(2pts)
Michelle McCool (or Layla) (c) vs. Melina (c) : Title Unification Match (1pt)
Big Show vs. CM Punk : (1pt)
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs. Kofi Kingston : Intercontinental Championship (1pt)
The Miz (c) vs. Daniel Bryan : United States Championship (1pt)

Spot Monkey- John Cena- Attitude Adjustment

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Check out the champ..

[saofan_315]

It doesn't take a genius to realize that tonight looks like a pretty damn good night for the Miz to cash in MITB

[saofan_315]

http://www.wrestling-edge.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/madisonrayne.jpg

Madison Rayne has a new "look." WANT.

[aradiantsunrise]

God damn.

[iden22]

Would.

[MikeAL4W]

I can't believe you like the eagles. You probably smell like cheesesteaks, but more greasy.

[Teesy]

APWP Night Of Champions 2010
Name : Tyler
Username : teesy

Sheamus(c) vs. Wade Barrett vs. Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Edge : WWE Championship (2pts)
Kane(c) vs. Undertaker: Word Heavyweight Championship(2pts)
Michelle McCool (or Layla) (c) vs. Melina (c) : Title Unification Match (1pt)
Big Show vs. CM Punk : (1pt)
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs. Kofi Kingston : Intercontinental Championship (1pt)
The Miz (c) vs. Daniel Bryan : United States Championship (1pt)

Spot Monkey (1pt) Edge-Spear

[phillycheese37]

Good luck to everyone in their picks, as long as the PPV is good I think we all win.
.....I really want to win

[RockTheWalls]

Can someone Please Maybe show me where to maybe see this with my eyes? My feed isn't carrying it tonight.

[saofan_315]

Can someone Please Maybe show me where to maybe see this with my eyes? My feed isn't carrying it tonight.
done.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Alright, everyone is in..

Keep track of your points, I will too.

[RockTheWalls]

Well... looks like they added in a tag match

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Prediction : Which banner is gonna catch fire from pyro first?

I call Tag Title Banner.

[saofan_315]

What part of the champion always comes out last doesn't the WWE understand?

EDIT: Love triangle... COMMENCE

[GoWaitInTheCar]

What kind of cover was that, Ziggles? Hahaha.

[mht]

Kofi looked real close to hurting his neck there on that flip pin counter

[RockTheWalls]

I Knew It. Pisssssed

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I Am Perfection.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Hey Champ, you didn't know it. You didn't pick him.

F*ck off. :-p

[GoWaitInTheCar]

CM Punk trying sooooo hard to be a heel in his hometown. Love you, Punk.

[iden22]

I love CM Punk.

[saofan_315]

Big Show is going to tap

EDIT: Well that was fucking stupid

[RockTheWalls]

0 for 2. Yikes.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I fucking didn't order this PPV to see this shit. My night is ruined. Thanks WWE.

[iden22]

Bullshit.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Three people had Big Show winning that. What a bullshit deal. CM Punk NEEDED that.

[saofan_315]

Did anyone here pick Jericho to win?

[aradiantsunrise]

Ugh, WWE.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Big Show seemed to be holding his hand. Maybe they had to end it early? I fucking hope so because Big Show winning clean is awful.

[ijbet59]

stream?

[saofan_315]

That vegan poster is amazing.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Not a single person picked the Miz to win that.

[saofan_315]

Hell. Yes.

[aradiantsunrise]

Yessss.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

That was pretty clear that was gonna happen. I'm still pretty pissed about Punk losing.

[saofan_315]

Time to go make some popcorn.

[saofan_315]

Botchamania running wild

[iden22]

Lol at Rosa trying to punch Jillian(?) when they're all supposed to get along.

What a horrible match.

[RockTheWalls]

lololol wow my picks

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Jon that isn't Ashes looks like he's in first so far.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Jay and that midcarder Arson are tied for second, I believe.

[saofan_315]

I know I'm 3 for 4 right now

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

Lol at Rosa trying to punch Jillian(?) when they're all supposed to get along.

What a horrible match.

the women's matches and the fact that the women in general are now taken "seriously" is what made me lose interest in the NEW wwe to begin with.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Taker just hit Kane with a Mountain Dew can, twice.

[iden22]

Yay for Kane beating his brother for the second time ever (I think).

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Jon_Cima still in the lead.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Wtf. Mark Henry and Evan Bourne?

[RockTheWalls]

This could be a disaster or actually decent.

[saofan_315]

Surprising to not see JoMo and R-Truth in this match. Hopefully this means that Morrison will be involved in the WWE title match.

[iden22]

Hm new champions. I hope Santino/Koslov don't win.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Ash Ketchem and Golem from Pokemon, entering the ring.

[iden22]

Dashing.

[aradiantsunrise]

Sucks how weak they made the Harts look, but I like this team.

[saofan_315]

This match better go the entire 45/50 minutes left in the PPV.

[Montauk1222]

Forgot there was even a ppv tonight, hope Miz cashes in MITB

[Montauk1222]

Wow and that's how Jericho will go out haha.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Those of you who had the RKO for Spot Monkey, remember you only get the point if Orton loses.

[saofan_315]

Are you kidding me? That's how Jericho goes out?

[Zorlak]

For some reason, I think they are all in shock because maybe Jericho was supposed to win?

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Edge - Spear
John Cena - AA, STFU
Wade Barrett - Wasteland
Randy Orton - RKO

All will count for spot monkey, if they lose.

[Montauk1222]

SuperCena was eliminated before the last fall?????????

[aradiantsunrise]

Woohoo, I get a point.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I gotta count this up..

Those who had Orton for Spot Monkey, you don't get the point, obviously.

[saofan_315]

Alright, so I finished with 6 points

[iden22]

Got 4 points. Eh. Good show.

PWInsider says tonight was Jericho's final scheduled appearance. Or for now, at least. :-(

[aradiantsunrise]

I got 4 pts I believe.

[phillycheese37]

7 points, woo!!

EDIT: Picked both championships correctly.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I'm tallying it up.

Champ has 7 pts.
Jon has 7pts.
Philly Cheese has 7pts.

The Champ has six match points (including Spot Monkey). As announced he would have 1 pt. going into his defense. So I believe the Champ retains. The rule states if the Champ is tied, he retains.

I'll give everyone a minute to tally their score themselves to see if my calculations are correct, which I do believe they are.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Any last objections?

[phillycheese37]

Score is correct, fuck.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Here's your winner and STILL APWP Champion, Rock The Walls.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gJWmXPJu-Ps/TGmOmRH1ITI/AAAAAAAABgA/5hoY4uc7XOw/s1600/winner2.jpg

You are lucky, my friend. You did NOT have the best picks. Spot Monkey and the Champion Bonus got you the W. You really are the Sheamus of this thread. Jon and Philly Cheese both did better then you in points. I actually was up there with 6 as well..

[phillycheese37]

I know this may just be sour grapes here, but either give the champion the one point bonus or the tiebreaker, both is a bit unfair (as tonight illustrates).

[saofan_315]

Well, damn.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

It helps the Champion retain, it's the idea of it. If we do that, we'll have a new Champion every PPV. It'll degrade the title for what it is. Unless specified the Champion retains in WWE as well, regardless if he gets DQed or Counted Out, etc..

EDIT : Also, much like reality the hardest worker does not mean he's the Champion. The Champion doesn't mean he's the hardest worker.

[RockTheWalls]

Shocked I managed to retain. Woohoo!

[AshesAshes]

I'm tallying it up.

Champ has 7 pts.
Jon has 7pts.
Philly Cheese has 7pts.

The Champ has six match points (including Spot Monkey). As announced he would have 1 pt. going into his defense. So I believe the Champ retains. The rule states if the Champ is tied, he retains.

I'll give everyone a minute to tally their score themselves to see if my calculations are correct, which I do believe they are.

Haha damn I came close I knew I should of picked Kane for some reason I didn't think it was a no dq match. So I expected The Undertaker to win by DQ and Kane to retain the belt so the fued could go on

[aradiantsunrise]

Still kinda pissed that WWE had Big Show win. He got one over on Punk on SD, the win should have gone to Punk at NoC.

[MikeAL4W]

Hey guys, just read the results. Sounded like an alright PPV, but I'm really upset with them taking any momentum Punk had and shitting on it. Also hoping to God that this isn't Jericho's lst appearance. To go out like that after all this time would be the fucking worst ever. And how many people did Orton RKO then eliminate? Fucking superOrton bullshit. So mad about that.

[iden22]

Wait, Hell in a Cell is in TWO weeks? The hell...

[BuriedAlive]

Wait, Hell in a Cell is in TWO weeks? The hell...

I know there was some bullshit with WWE having the tenth as their date for the PPV. I guess they decided to allow TNA to have it for their anniversary. Not sure what all happened; haven't read anything on it, but that would be my guess.

[CIMA]

Hell In A cell in two weeks, and then ANOTHER PPV (i forget which... bragging rights maybe) like 3 weeks after that... so yeah.


As for NOC, I enjoyed the PPV. There was enough good stuff to enjoy about it. Whilst it was their 9th billion match against each other Kofi/Dolph was a good match.

Punk/Show was okay, not great I just want them to end the feud as its not benefitting either one of them (although I'm not sure what else to do with either of them).

Women's match was bad, but there was enough eye candy around the ring that I won't complain too much. Also Glad to see Laycool staying together.

Miz/Bryan was fantastic. Just a really really great match. Probably the best match for both guys in WWE. It wasn't all Daniel Bryan either, Miz brought alot to the match. I wanna see a rematch between the two before Miz' eventual move into the World title picture.

Tag match was fun for what it was but it was totally obvious the Harts weren't leaving with the belts. Rhodes/Drew Mac though are a great pairing and hopefully with them the belts once again get elevated. An inter-brand feud with the Harts would be good stuff.

Kane-Taker was my favourite match of the night. Great stuff from those twos, and I really like the different dynamic of Kane being the dominate man. Happy to see Kane kept the belt too.

Main event was okay, but I think it would have been better if it wasn't scramble rules, but rather tag rules. Disappointed Sheamus didnt retain, but as is typical with the WWE they constantly change the champ. Probably get a 2 week orton reign now.

[iden22]

I know there was some bullshit with WWE having the tenth as their date for the PPV. I guess they decided to allow TNA to have it for their anniversary. Not sure what all happened; haven't read anything on it, but that would be my guess.

Yeah I figured that too, but it's still crazy. Hopefully the shows aren't too chaotic.

[RockTheWalls]

I know there was some bullshit with WWE having the tenth as their date for the PPV. I guess they decided to allow TNA to have it for their anniversary. Not sure what all happened; haven't read anything on it, but that would be my guess.

What's more stupid: two ppvs in October.

I know Bragging Rights is without a doubt to build hype for Smackdown vs Raw 2011. I think they should add these type of "bragging rights" matches to Survivor Series.

[iden22]

Then Vince is going to wonder why the PPV buys are still low at the next conference call. $45 is $5 too much and with little time in between each PPV, no one has the money to throw.

[BuriedAlive]

Yeah I figured that too, but it's still crazy. Hopefully the shows aren't too chaotic.

I completely agree. I think it's dumb to do that. I know they had the tenth already secured as their date. They aren't leaving too much time to really build up anything; however it could work in their favor because sometimes it really seems like they struggle with building feuds now a days.

What's more stupid: two ppvs in October.

I know Bragging Rights is without a doubt to build hype for Smackdown vs Raw 2011. I think they should add these type of "bragging rights" matches to Survivor Series.

Yes, I agree.

I don't really get the point of having Bragging Rights then Survivor Series (beside to make more money). As you said, it would work better to just have Survivor Series: Bragging Rights and just use Survivor Series format (preferably the old format) to see what brand has dominance. I would like that much more.

[CIMA]

They probably still make enough money from them to justify it though due to the increase price. Which sucks because they only way they'll change is if they start losing money from them

[RockTheWalls]

How many matches are going to be HIAC? Just WWE and WHC?

and Chances are we will see Sheamus v. Orton and Kane v. Undertaker I am assuming? Maybe HHH making his return tonight and getting into the Orton/Sheamus match?

[xtsukiyamax]

Dang, lots of spoilers in here. Gonna download NoC later.

Stoked as fuck.

[CIMA]

How many matches are going to be HIAC? Just WWE and WHC?

and Chances are we will see Sheamus v. Orton and Kane v. Undertaker I am assuming? Maybe HHH making his return tonight and getting into the Orton/Sheamus match?

Just the main events were in the cell last year if I remember correctly, so probably the same this time around. I imagine those will be the matches that get the cell. I figure if HHH does return though we'll get Sheamus/HHH in the cell and Orton in a different title match, but again in the cell.

[aradiantsunrise]

There is talk of Triple H returning tonight?

[saofan_315]

Tonight at RAW they are doing this week's as well as next week's episodes, so if you look out for the spoilers it should be easy to find out what they're planning for HIAC.

[CIMA]

I guess thats due to another overseas tour

[jay_klinkhammer]

PPV was fun, watched the replay with 4 other people. Kane/UT was BRUTAL. So boring.

Bryan/Miz was the highlight.

Main Event was fun just because no one knew who would take it until the very end.

The stream we had skipped the Divas match, thank you streamer.

DASHING.

[saofan_315]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought Kane/Taker was boring. It was more of a slugfest and less of a wrestling match. I'm still excited about their inevitable rematch at HIAC though.

[CIMA]

It shouldn't have been a wrestling match though. It should have been a fist fight, and thats what we got.

[saofan_315]

That's true. They did tell a story, which is what they were supposed to do. It just didn't quite catch me like I thought it would.

[CIMA]

I'm like you though, excited for the rematch at HIAC. Takers been involved in my 3 favourite HIAC, and I think if anyone can make a bloodless HIAC great then its him.

[WTG]

Good PPV. Brian vs Miz was a show stealer...such a great match from both of them. The WWE Championship match was awesome as well, very well booked, even if I'm not a huge fan of another 'age of orton'. My main complaint is that CM Punk tends to do the job every single time they are in Chicago...I don't get that. What does it do to the Big Show if he gets another win against Punk (after two moves, nonetheless). He has no where else to go, he's old and probably within three years of calling it quits (again). Punk was built as the future for a while, main evented Summerslam last year, and two months after that was back to mid card...I just don't get it.

[iden22]

What is this about RKOing grandmothers?

[iden22]

Jericho!

[aradiantsunrise]

I want Layla.

[phillycheese37]

hmm this will be interesting...looking forward to Hell In A Cell now.

[saofan_315]

Solid RAW tonight. It's lame that there's another ppv in 2 weeks, but I'll watch it for free so I'm not too upset about it. Time to go check the spoilers to see what else has been added to HIAC.

[Zorlak]

New Daniel Bryan song FTW.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

What happened to Darren Young?

It's strange to see Daniel Bryan with a different theme, already..

[iden22]

He was kicked out when he lost to Cena, if I remember correctly.

[Andy K]

Decent Raw last night, I am just glad that it seems that Jericho might be sticking around for a little longer. Also, it seems like they might be setting him up for a face turn.

[RockTheWalls]

Just saw the Raw matches for HIAC....I'm pretty confident I could retain based on the first four.

[saofan_315]

Jericho put this up on his twitter a while ago. I take it as a good thing.

Hey Internet...Im a heel. Heels lie, therefore if I say something boastfully and reneg on it, it's not an official stipulation. Smarten up!

[CIMA]

Okay Raw I suppose.

Could Bryan be anymore of a dork... ride of the valkyries... really?

[WTG]

He was kicked out when he lost to Cena, if I remember correctly.

Didn't he come back and distract Nexus a few weeks ago? And then disappear again?


Also, Daniel Bryan's new theme is awesome for him...

[iden22]

Didn't he come back and distract Nexus a few weeks ago? And then disappear

He got RKOed at the end of that episode so that was that haha.

[CIMA]

He'll be back at some point. They're probably just figuring out what to do with him.

they could have easily spent the last few weeks building him up as an outcast in the locker room due to his Nexus association, while he tries to prove to the other wrestlers that he's changed.

[phillycheese37]

Darren Young was terrible anyway, so I hope he just stays away.
Also, I LOVE Daniel Bryan's new entrance song, it fits him perfectly.

[saofan_315]

When Young came back, he had his own entrance music. He'll be back. I can see him getting over as a face.

[WTG]

When Nexus ends, I really hope that Barret and Gabriel survive the end of Nexus. Barret will be a good upper midcard/main event if they keep it up with him, and Gabriel is just entertaining. Also, think about if Gabriel and Bourne made a tag team...they'd probably job to everyone, but still, it'd be fun.

[iden22]

Barrett and Gabriel are definitely not going anywhere. Skip Sheffield's probably not going anywhere either.

[xtsukiyamax]

R-Truth and his awful rap skills are starting to annoy me a little.

Daniel Bryan's new entrance theme song's awesome by the way. Too bad the Miz had to spoil his moment by humiliating him after the match with Edge.

And I'm starting to like John Morrison A LOT. He's been really impressive so far.

The best moment of last night's episode was probably when John Cena made fun of Heath Slater. I lol'd.

[WTG]

Ugh...WWE did literally the only possible thing to make me watch the train wreck that is NXT season 3...CM Punk is the new commentator. And he's already been hilarious with the about two minutes he's had to talk.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

He was kicked out when he lost to Cena, if I remember correctly.

I know that, silly.

I ment he returned on RAW after SummerSlam. He had his own theme and interfered in Barrett's match. Then he hasn't been on TV since.

[aradiantsunrise]

Love that Punk was commentating on NXT. He used to do that sometimes in ROH and some other indy feds.

[saofan_315]

If Punk is doing commentary on NXT I might as well check out this week's episode

[Zorlak]

Currently watching NXT just for the sole fact that CM Punk is a commentator, I hope he does more commentating in the future. Everything he says is hilarious.

[iden22]

Ending to this week's SD sounds awesome.

[CIMA]

Ending to this week's SD sounds awesome.

Yes it does. Very excited to see it.

[saofan_315]

Is there a spoiler-free way to say what happened without completely ruining it?


EDIT: Nevermind, I looked it up. Holy. Shit.

[MikeAL4W]

Yeah it's gonna be fucking awesome hopefully I can get somwhere to watch it.

[jay_klinkhammer]

I kept joking about it constantly, but when they said he lost his "powers" at NOC, it really built it up. NICE.

[jay_klinkhammer]

Thought I'd comment that Raw did a 2.8.

It's getting to be pretty disappointing. I think they are putting out a decent product but...something big needs to happen. MNF only did a 10.8 so it isn't the greatest excuse.

[phillycheese37]

Link to spoiler free SD page?

[saofan_315]

I have a reason to watch TNA now!!!

http://www.diva-dirt.com/2010/09/22/mickie-james-signing-with-tna/

[iden22]

Good for them. The KO division is getting back on track with Tara's return and Mickie's possible signing.

[RockTheWalls]

I still have a crush on Christy Hemme. Something about her.

[irishcarbomb]

Glad you introduced this to me Patrick. It's beautiful.

[jay_klinkhammer]

STILL not going to watch TNA.

SO BAD.

I feel like they are insulting anyone that is a fan of the ART of professional wrestling.

[xtsukiyamax]

STILL not going to watch TNA.

SO BAD.

I feel like they are insulting anyone that is a fan of the ART of professional wrestling.

qft.

[saofan_315]

Alright, it's about time we got this thread stickied. We're bigger than any other stickied sports thread by over 1000 posts. Considering wrestling has no off season, I don't see the post count slowing down any time soon. Should we PM the Mod for the sports forum? Anyone have any ideas as to how to get it stickied?

[phillycheese37]

Do a barrel roll

[MikeAL4W]

qft.

I dunno man to me actual wrestling isn't the problem, the art of wrestling i fine. The shitty storylines are the problem.

As for an all knockout PPV... seriously who's gonna pay for that.

[MikeAL4W]

Alright, it's about time we got this thread stickied. We're bigger than any other stickied sports thread by over 1000 posts. Considering wrestling has no off season, I don't see the post count slowing down any time soon. Should we PM the Mod for the sports forum? Anyone have any ideas as to how to get it stickied?

I've been saying this forever. I think all you have to do to get a thread stickied is have it not be about wrestling.

[iden22]

I dunno man to me actual wrestling isn't the problem, the art of wrestling i fine. The shitty storylines are the problem.

As for an all knockout PPV... seriously who's gonna pay for that.

Exactly. Their wrestling is fine, but their [over]booking kills everything. Shitty finishes with Angle and Hardy, RVD's chill phone call after being murdered last month, constant interference, and on.

Horny guys that will think more of the title than the actual description of the show. Not sure of Kong will bring in many viewers, though.

[MikeAL4W]

Exactly. Their wrestling is fine, but their [over]booking kills everything. Shitty finishes with Angle and Hardy, RVD's chill phone call after being murdered last month, constant interference, and on.

Horny guys that will think more of the title than the actual description of the show. Not sure of Kong will bring in many viewers, though.

They don't think about anything b efore they they throw it on TV. they just sit around and brainstorm what they think are decent ideas and don't care if it makes no sense/conflicts with the storyline beforehand. They might as well just do different storylines every week with the same wrestlers.

I didn't read anything about Kong is she resigning with TNA or something?

[CIMA]

So Christian is injured and out six months. Pectoral tear. Really sucks, as he's been one of the best most consistent wrestlers in WWE

[MikeAL4W]

So Christian is injured and out six months. Pectoral tear. Really sucks, as he's been one of the best most consistent wrestlers in WWE

Yeah he's always great. Maybe he'll finally get a decent push when he gets back.

[iden22]

I didn't read anything about Kong is she resigning with TNA or something?

The KO PPV is just a highlight PPV with matches. I think she's on it. Now that's mad sexy.

Sucks to hear about Christian. SD really needs to getbeefed up.

[CIMA]

Yeah, it does.

I think they just need more faces (or to better establsih the ones they have). They've now lost two of their more over faces in Hardy and Christian. They'll need people to fill those spots.

[saofan_315]

Enter Edge and Evan Bourne for the SyFy run

[phillycheese37]

Fuuuuuck that sucks to hear about Christian, I was really looking forward to his coming feud with Alberto Del Rio. Maybe the story line will be ADR is the one who took him out...?

Also, HHH coming back at the next PPV, anyone?

[CIMA]

Yep, Del Rio 'injures' him on SD

[GoWaitInTheCar]

SD needs needs needs another face big time. With Hardy shitting out and Christian's injury. It's no surprise they are pushing Rey to come back.

[xtsukiyamax]

SD looks so fucked up right now, to be honest.

[atrio]

holy shit its paul bearer i thought this guy died

[iden22]

Bearer just had to make an appearance in this feud. Glad it happened. Aside from the ending, it was a pretty blah show.

[phillycheese37]

Wow the ref really blew the count at the end of the Kane match.

[Zorlak]

Wow the ref really blew the count at the end of the Kane match.
Yeah he did, Kane looked pissed at the ref after the match.

[MikeAL4W]

RIP Giant Gonzalez, you hideous, beastly thing. Be at peace in the big furry muscle suit in the sky.

[MikeAL4W]

Anyone see Big Zeke getting some attention on smackdown?

[xtsukiyamax]

RIP El Gigante.

[CIMA]

Shame to hear about Gonzalez/El Gigante.

[CIMA]

Anyone see Big Zeke getting some attention on smackdown?

He got drafted to Raw before getting injured. So more than likely he'll re appear there.

[iden22]

RIP Gonzalez.

I think Ezekiel would be better off on Smackdown. Most people have probably forgotten that he was even drafted to Raw.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I actually really enjoyed Smackdown. Even though the Big Show continues to squash everyone.

The Dudebusters, Chris Masters, The Gatecrashers and Chavo (who got a win) all appeared on Smackdown. That and the Tag Team titles were defended, even know the Hart Dynasty is on the RAW brand.. It's good to see them changing it up. I like that.

Bearer coming back was pretty awesome too.

[Eads]

LOL. When I saw this thread I had to post. I used to be a BIG pro wrestling nerd. FOLEY IS GOD.

[jay_klinkhammer]

New members daily. One step closer to a sticky!

[MikeAL4W]

New members daily. One step closer to a sticky!

WOO! - Ric Flair

[saofan_315]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f140/RandArt/ricflair.jpg

[RockTheWalls]

Anyone see this? lololololol wow

ODhibwsN_1U

[iden22]

Supposedly, WWE wants to retire Jillian so she can become an FCW trainer. She would be good for the position, but it's a shame that she has never been used right.

[aradiantsunrise]

Kinda sucks. She's always been one of the better divas in the ring.

[aradiantsunrise]

I actually laughed at the Knucklehead trailer. Wow.

[RockTheWalls]

I actually laughed at the Knucklehead trailer. Wow.

Kinda reminds me of one of those happy madison movies from the early 90s in a weird way

[saofan_315]

I see that too. It's got that same sense of ridiculousness to it.


It sucks to hear about Jillian. She's not so bad in the ring and she looks amazing. Not the best person for the gimmick she's been given imo.

[phillycheese37]

tonight looks awesome, just saying.

http://www.wrestlingforum.com/raw/520720-raw-card-9-27-10-a.html

[iden22]

A three way submissions count anywhere match...interesting.

[Montauk1222]

This General Manager voice from the computer is really creeping me out.

[aradiantsunrise]

Did Edge beating up the laptop remind anyone else of the ridiculousness Flair does every now and then?

[mht]

LOL there's no way Edge actually meant to bash his face off the computer, that's real blood.

[Montauk1222]

haha has to be the case because on the replay they cut away from the video where his face is showing after but kept rolling the audio

[mht]

knew it was a fuck it up he touched his forehead while the camera was still on him and looked directly at his hand LOL

[mht]

lol Jericho's list of name drops

[Zorlak]

I loled when Jericho mentioned Flash Funk.

[phillycheese37]

Fozzy is going on tour starting October 9, so expect Jericho to be gone from Raw before then, probably on that monday, Oct 4 on Raw.

[saofan_315]

About RAW tonight: I am disappoint


However, Smackdown on Friday should kick ass and HIAC is looking pretty good right now. I think it's about time HHH made his comeback.



Here's the complete list of everyone Jericho named off tonight:


Stone Cold Steve Austin
The Rock
Triple H
Kane
Shawn Michaels
Eddie Guerrero
Rey Misterio
JBL
the Big Show
Edge
the Undertaker "who I beat twice, might I add"

"The list goes on and on and on."

MVP
CM Punk

[break]

Invader I
Invader II
Villano I
(Villano) II
(Villano) III
(Villano) IV
(Villano) V
Juventud Guerrera
Apolo Dantes
Ringo Mendoza Jr.
the Great Muta
Masahiro Chono
Funaki
Fuyuki
Jado
Gedo
Yoshi Tatsu
Perro Saturn
Dean Malenko
Lex Luger
Sting
Ric Flair
Bill Goldberg
Booker T
Stevie Ray
Scott Norton
Buff Bagwell
Flash Flannigan
Flash Funk
Kevin Nash
Diesel
Oz
Scott Hall
Razor Ramon
American Starship Eagle
Mr. X (and cut off here)

[Zorlak]

Fozzy is going on tour starting October 9, so expect Jericho to be gone from Raw before then, probably on that monday, Oct 4 on Raw.
I believe that the kick to the head he received by Orton was a way to write him off RAW, so don't expect him to be there next week.

[MikeAL4W]

Just read the results and it sounded like a good show. Wish I couldve seen Jericho and Seamus's promo sounded interesting.

[CIMA]

I believe that the kick to the head he received by Orton was a way to write him off RAW, so don't expect him to be there next week.

This was the impression I got too.

[iden22]

Pretty nice of WWE to plug Mick Foley's new book last night.

[CIMA]

I noticed that. Such a what the hell moment.

Just watching RAW now actually, fun enough show. Loved Jericho's list, laughed when he listed Kevin Nash, diesel, Oz

[jay_klinkhammer]

After last week’s bowling-shoe-ugly 2.8 rating .. this week’s RAW didn’t even come close to that number.

The 9/27 episode of WWE’s Monday Night RAW drew a pitiful 2.37 rating – down a sharp 15% from last week’s year-low number.

RAW averaged 3.80 million viewers over the course of the show. The first hour drew 3.72 million viewers and the second hour had 3.88 million.

The 2.37 for Monday show is the lowest rating for a regular episode of RAW since October 27, 1997 – almost 13 years ago – before the Montreal Screwjob kicked off the Attitude Era.

[jay_klinkhammer]

And Raw was facing Nitro...now they are unopposed.

I think Raw has good stuff but I maybe can see why new people wouldn't flock.

WWE has to start thinking of a way to regenerate WWE's popularity.

[iden22]

Taped shows usually do lower ratings than usual, but not by THAT much. Wow.

[MikeAL4W]

And Raw was facing Nitro...now they are unopposed.

I think Raw has good stuff but I maybe can see why new people wouldn't flock.

WWE has to start thinking of a way to regenerate WWE's popularity.

Getting rid of the PG rating for starters. The show strts at 9 on a weekday, it shouldn't be catering moe to children. Put on a new shitty kid friendly show on saturday morning or at 7 on some other weekday. Grrrr.

[saofan_315]

You know what these low numbers mean? Another title run for Cena.

:wallbash:

[MikeAL4W]

You know what these low numbers mean? Another title run for Cena.

:wallbash:
I actually think the Cena heel turn
thats being talked about would bring the ratings up a bit.

[saofan_315]

I can only hope. If Danielson can come back, anything can happen.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Honestly, I really hate when Storylines just rewrite the past. I wouldn't like to see Cena turn heel and join the Nexus. What the hell would be the purpose of this entire Summer then? It's just like when Jericho and Edge buddied up when Edge turned heel. They just got off of a bitter rivalry. If Cena does turn heel, I'd like it to be independent of the Nexus angle. But obviously, it wouldn't be.

So who is getting eager to dethrone the Champ? I'll have the new template up late Friday Night or early Saturday Morning.

[TerrancePryor]

Raw's ratings usually drop during Monday Night Football anyways.

[saofan_315]

I think if Cena does join Nexus, it'll be as a face reluctantly in a heel stable. Hopefully when he does turn heel sooner or later, it'll be under different circumstances.

[aradiantsunrise]

Is Smackdown live this week?

[iden22]

Yes sir. Main event is Taker/Punk, I believe.

[aradiantsunrise]

Eh...another big loss for Punk then. Bummer.

[saofan_315]

Hopefully we see some interference in that one... from Nexus perhaps?

[Zorlak]

I started to watch the new episode of NXT to see if CM Punk was back as a commentator, instead they added Hornswoggle to the show, I quickly turned it off.

[phillycheese37]

anyone know the card for tonight?

[iden22]

Only Taker/Punk so far with appearances by Cena, Nexus, and Mysterio.

WWE.com has an interview with Mick Foley. Interesting.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Haha damn I came close I knew I should of picked Kane for some reason I didn't think it was a no dq match. So I expected The Undertaker to win by DQ and Kane to retain the belt so the fued could go on

The Jon I was speaking of in that post was CIMA Jon, not you. However, I think you had six points if I rememebr correctly. Run one more Mike Wallace out route and you'll be the Champion by Monday.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Punk is just buried now. They took his stable from him and basically all credibly with his countless loses to The Big Show. All he needs is Taker to defeat him clean again.

[MikeAL4W]

Punk is just buried now. They took his stable from him and basically all credibly with his countless loses to The Big Show. All he needs is Taker to defeat him clean again.

I agree that Punk has been buried, but I can see a clean Taker victory after a good match, it might make the Kane/Taker feud seem less onesided in Kanes favor. Or then again maybe they want to build for a huge taker upset/comeback against Kane while giving punk back some of the credit he's lost...
hmmm...

Either way I'm fucking stoked for tonight.

[saofan_315]

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/928/braggingrightsc.jpg

Think this is real? If it is...

[MikeAL4W]

Punk always amuses the shit out of me. Everyone else watching the hour preshow thing?

[saofan_315]

I thought the preshow got canceled?

Shit, I need to get a feed of this going. Screw living on the west coast, I'm watching this thing live.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

FINALLY, the Big Show shows he's human.

[saofan_315]

Green Day? Really?

Other than that, awesome start to the show. I bet Ziggler's getting pissed at Nexus showing up in the middle of his title matches. The new opening video is pretty sweet too. It's definitely geared toward SyFy.

[iden22]

As much as I don't like "Know Your Enemy", I can sure stomach it more than the recent SD themes.

Hot start. Should be a good show.

[saofan_315]

They should make a permanent change back to The Beautiful People by Mairyln Manson

[saofan_315]

Why the hell does the Undertaker feel the need to always squash CM Punk?

[iden22]

And why the hell was it so short?

[saofan_315]

that's what she said

[Montauk1222]

Is the full card for Hell In A Cell out yet?

[Montauk1222]

Hahaha that was my favorite pre-RKO hissy fit yet