Early 2007 Super Bowl Picks

[FallOutBoyPunch]

What two teams, and why?

I say Kansas City against Carolina.

KC was robbed of the playoffs last year, and now have a full year to run over teams with Larry Johnson. Gonzalez will be back, and the defense will further improve.

Carolina added in my opinion the top rookie HB, and upped their second receiver tenfold. And if you forgot, they were in the championship game last year.

[ides of march]

san francisco

[Goodbye Forever]

Herm Edwards will never win a Super Bowl, unless the opposing coach is Marty Schottenheimer.

Pittsburgh over Carolina.

[ActorInThisPlay]

What two teams, and why?

I say Kansas City against Carolina.

KC was robbed of the playoffs last year, and now have a full year to run over teams with Larry Johnson. Gonzalez will be back, and the defense will further improve.

Carolina added in my opinion the top rookie HB, and upped their second receiver tenfold. And if you forgot, they were in the championship game last year.
Reggie Bush?

[ActorInThisPlay]

Tampa Bay all the way

[bigmike]

Herm Edwards will never win a Super Bowl, unless the opposing coach is Marty Schottenheimer.

Pittsburgh over Carolina.
especially in KC. that defense is still average, at best.

[LeftWideOpen]

I like Carolina also and I think KC is a strong contender ..but I'm going with Pittsburgh again in the AFC and as champs. It's early to predict though.

[FallOutBoyPunch]

Reggie Bush?
shit, sorry, I meant second best. Bush is a given.

[itsjdiggity]

Tennessee vs Arizona

[FallOutBoyPunch]

Tennesee vs Arizona
Arizona will make the playoffs, Tennesee will not.

[bigmike]

Tennesee vs Arizona
and then vince young runs and passes for about 1285 yards and 13 TD's while Matt Leinart proclaims "We are still the better team" during post game interviews.

[itsjdiggity]

no, you're not gonna make the playoffs

go titans

[ActorInThisPlay]

Pitt will not go to the Super Bowl next year...guaranteed.

[LeftWideOpen]

Arizona will make the playoffs, Tennesee will not.

arizona is still a strech, in my opinion, for the playoffs. they likely arent even the 2nd best team in their division (st louis can give them a run for their money) and there's no chance the west gets both wild cards. Edge gives them a weapon they've never had ...but they were more than one player away from contention. They still need to upgrade the D and get a QB whose best days werent 4-5 years ago.

[Dirty Ernie]

iggles dolphins

because they play in ace ventura

[LeftWideOpen]

Pitt will not go to the Super Bowl next year...guaranteed.

they might as well just quit then i guess, its official. no use in playing, mrs bonds has spoken.

[FondestMemory]

afc - pittsburgh.
nfc - second place.

[FallOutBoyPunch]

arizona is still a strech, in my opinion, for the playoffs. they likely arent even the 2nd best team in their division (st louis can give them a run for their money) and there's no chance the west gets both wild cards. Edge gives them a weapon they've never had ...but they were more than one player away from contention. They still need to upgrade the D and get a QB whose best days werent 4-5 years ago.

Redskins made the playoffs last year with Brunell at the reigns. It's possible.

[ActorInThisPlay]

they might as well just quit then i guess, its official. no use in playing, mrs bonds has spoken.
what? there is no way the Steelers are going back to the Super Bowl. I am just saying. you are a fucking idiot.

[FallOutBoyPunch]

they might as well just quit then i guess, its official. no use in playing, mrs bonds has spoken.

haha

[FallOutBoyPunch]

iggles dolphins

because they play in ace ventura
Haha, good choice.

[LeftWideOpen]

Redskins made the playoffs last year with Brunell at the reigns. It's possible.

yah, its definitely possible. i just dont think its likely. it'd be nice to see though because i'm personally rooting for them.

[LeftWideOpen]

what? there is no way the Steelers are going back to the Super Bowl. I am just saying. you are a fucking idiot.

bro, you are the one throwing out guarantees in may. don't talk out of your ass.

[ActorInThisPlay]

bro, you are the one throwing out guarantees in may. don't talk out of your ass.
are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?

[Vincewithouthee]

I'm not going to say, because it's way too early, and I'm afraid of jinxing the Steelers.

But no way in the hell do the Chiefs win the Super Bowl. Their defense might be better, but they're no where near a SB level defense. Plus, their offense isn't what it used to be, and they're getting older by the day. Still a good offense, but just like any other year their defense won't be good at all. Like other people said, their defense is okay at best.

[fromwithin]

arizona is still a strech, in my opinion, for the playoffs. they likely arent even the 2nd best team in their division (st louis can give them a run for their money) and there's no chance the west gets both wild cards. Edge gives them a weapon they've never had ...but they were more than one player away from contention. They still need to upgrade the D and get a QB whose best days werent 4-5 years ago.

uhhh leinart? st louis cannot match up with the cards. youll see. 10-6.

[histrionics22]

are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?

The odds of any team reaching the super bowl twice are slim.

[FallOutBoyPunch]

I'm not going to say, because it's way too early, and I'm afraid of jinxing the Steelers.

But no way in the hell do the Chiefs win the Super Bowl. Their defense might be better, but they're no where near a SB level defense. Plus, their offense isn't what it used to be, and they're getting older by the day. Still a good offense, but just like any other year their defense won't be good at all. Like other people said, their defense is okay at best.

Well, first I never said they'd win; I actually think Carolina will beat them, however I think their defense will be better than people are giving them credit for. We'll just have to wait and see.

[ActorInThisPlay]

seriously I think the Pats are going back. in the NFC I think Carolina has the best shot but I think it is pretty much anyone's in the NFC.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Patriots? Bills 4 in a row ( lost all though)? Cowboys? Denver?

[Vincewithouthee]

Well, first I never said they'd win; I actually think Carolina will beat them, however I think their defense will be better than people are giving them credit for. We'll just have to wait and see.

Oh all right. But I still don't see Kansas City even winning a playoff game. It's all possible, though.

I think any team can win the Super Bowl. The Steelers seem to be the clear favorites, but after them it can be any other team. This is just like every year. Anything can happen.

If the Steelers don't win the Super Bowl, I'd love to see the Cards win it. I don't think they'll even make the playoffs this year, but that would be amazing to see. I'd also love Edge to get a ring and rub it in the Colts faces. hahaha.

[FallOutBoyPunch]

Patriots? Bills 4 in a row ( lost all though)? Cowboys? Denver?

+ Green Bay, + San Fran, + Steelers

[Vincewithouthee]

I think a NFC team is going to win it this year. Either the Seahawks, Bucs, or Panthers.

[fromwithin]

Super Bowl matchup will be one of the first preseason games:

Pittsburgh vs Arizona. But seriously, I dont see other teams giving Pittsburgh a hard time. If Cincy, more importantly Carson Palmer bounces back quickly then they might have a shot. Denver is another one with the pickup of Walker and the nice draft they had.

Arizona is the longest shot in the world, but I absolutely think this team has a shot especially with the perfection of the draft and the pickup of edge.


I think the biggest turnaround will come from Drew Brees and the Saints. Even though he has no weapons besides Bush to work with, he'll make plays.

What about Rookie of the Year guys?

[FallOutBoyPunch]

Super Bowl matchup will be one of the first preseason games:

Pittsburgh vs Arizona. But seriously, I dont see other teams giving Pittsburgh a hard time. If Cincy, more importantly Carson Palmer bounces back quickly then they might have a shot. Denver is another one with the pickup of Walker and the nice draft they had.

Arizona is the longest shot in the world, but I absolutely think this team has a shot especially with the perfection of the draft and the pickup of edge.


I think the biggest turnaround will come from Drew Brees and the Saints. Even though he has no weapons besides Bush to work with, he'll make plays.

What about Rookie of the Year guys?

Rookie of the year is too early to call.

[ActorInThisPlay]

I think a NFC team is going to win it this year. Either the Seahawks, Bucs, or Panthers.
yeah Bucs...

[itsjdiggity]

Rookie of the year is too early to call.

no

1st - Vince Young
2nd - Lendale White

[Vincewithouthee]

Super Bowl matchup will be one of the first preseason games:

Pittsburgh vs Arizona. But seriously, I dont see other teams giving Pittsburgh a hard time. If Cincy, more importantly Carson Palmer bounces back quickly then they might have a shot. Denver is another one with the pickup of Walker and the nice draft they had.

Arizona is the longest shot in the world, but I absolutely think this team has a shot especially with the perfection of the draft and the pickup of edge.


I think the biggest turnaround will come from Drew Brees and the Saints. Even though he has no weapons besides Bush to work with, he'll make plays.

What about Rookie of the Year guys?

I hope you're right. I'd love to see this Super Bowl matchup as well. With the Steelers winning, of course.

ROTY will be Reggie Bush....duh. He doesn't even have to start (which he won't) but I think he'll still get it. If not him, it'll be one of the WRs. (Probably Chad Jackson) I don't see any of the other RBs cause they're not going to start. They'll just split carries. If Foster gets hurt in Carolina, Williams will get it.

[FallOutBoyPunch]

no

1st - Vince Young
2nd - Lendale White
haha, Lendale will be just as good as the Oilers' other L. White was, Lorenzo. Who? Yeah. He sucked ass.

[histrionics22]

+ Green Bay, + San Fran, + Steelers

And how many in the salary cap era? New England was the biggest aberration ever.

[itsjdiggity]

Philip Rivers is gonna surprise a lot of people this year

[histrionics22]

haha, Lendale will be just as good as the Oilers' other L. White was, Lorenzo. Who? Yeah. He sucked ass.

You need to lurk a little more until you figure out the greatness that is itsjdiggity.

[FallOutBoyPunch]

You need to lurk a little more until you figure out the greatness that is itsjdiggity.

Pretty sure I've been here for three years, and just have had more time as of late to post like crazy, but have always posted. I've always disliked his jackass-ness.

[Vincewithouthee]

yeah Bucs...

Haha I hate going against the Steelers, but I never predict the Steelers to win a game. I refuse to. I'm afraid of jinxing it.

Anyway, I can see the Bucs winning it. It's possible. Good coaching. Their defense is always good. Williams is going to be even better, although they need to lighten up his load a bit...they improved their offensive line. Michael Clayton's going to bounce back and have a great season. It's all up to Simms, really. I think he'll be able to do his job.

[LeftWideOpen]

are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?

no, because i'm not the one dumb enough to throw guarantees around in may like i know everything.

uhhh leinart? st louis cannot match up with the cards. youll see. 10-6.

leinart is going to be holding a clipboard for at least a portion of the season. My guess is he doesn't even play 5 games, but who knows. Either way, Warner is going to get his shot.


seriously I think the Pats are going back. in the NFC I think Carolina has the best shot but I think it is pretty much anyone's in the NFC.

well i hope you are right about the pats, i just can't pick against the steelers right now. everyone else who matters (indy, NE, Cincy) got worse or have serious question marks.

I think a NFC team is going to win it this year. Either the Seahawks, Bucs, or Panthers.

The Bucs would shock me just cause I can't see Chris Simms leading a team to the Super Bowl. That'd be as crazy as Dilfer leading the Ravens to me.

[FallOutBoyPunch]

Haha I hate going against the Steelers, but I never predict the Steelers to win a game. I refuse to. I'm afraid of jinxing it.

Anyway, I can see the Bucs winning it. It's possible. Good coaching. Their defense is always good. Williams is going to be even better, although they need to lighten up his load a bit...they improved their offensive line. Michael Clayton's going to bounce back and have a great season. It's all up to Simms, really. I think he'll be able to do his job.

I appreciate the fact that you look at things on all sides before just jumping to the "hometown decision."

You're the smartest poster I've seen as of late.

[fromwithin]

leinart is going to be holding a clipboard for at least a portion of the season. My guess is he doesn't even play 5 games, but who knows. Either way, Warner is going to get his shot.



The Bucs would shock me just cause I can't see Chris Simms leading a team to the Super Bowl. That'd be as crazy as Dilfer leading the Ravens to me.
The preseason could define a lot. If Leinart jumps in there and has a 100+ QB rating after 4 games and Warner has twice as many INT's as TD's then they may throw him in there.

I agree with you about the Bucs.

[LeftWideOpen]

The preseason could define a lot. If Leinart jumps in there and has a 100+ QB rating after 4 games and Warner has twice as many INT's as TD's then they may throw him in there.

I agree with you about the Bucs, they dont have the offense to go far.

thats a huge "if" though. Even so, rookie QB's never do anything. Big Ben did is the only one who has done something and thats because he had the team around him. Arizona doesnt have the D to win them games and you need that w/ a rookie QB.

I think Cards fans should be pretty happy w/ an 8-8 season. Next year, if they take further steps to address the D, they could be a big-time contender.

[Vincewithouthee]

The Bucs would shock me just cause I can't see Chris Simms leading a team to the Super Bowl. That'd be as crazy as Dilfer leading the Ravens to me.

I'm just saying that they have a chance. Cleary, the QB spot is the weakest position on the Bucs right now, but they don't NEED a great QB. They could win it, although I don't think they will. I'm just saying they're one of the possible teams.

[itsjdiggity]

You need to lurk a little more until you figure out the greatness that is itsjdiggity.

oh yes

Pretty sure I've been here for three years, and just have had more time as of late to post like crazy, but have always posted. I've always disliked his jackass-ness.

oh no

[LeftWideOpen]

I'm just saying that they have a chance. Cleary, the QB spot is the weakest position on the Bucs right now, but they don't NEED a great QB. They could win it, although I don't think they will. I'm just saying they're one of the possible teams.

yeah, they're certainly in the mix. if simms is a little more then adequate, they probably will be one of the few near the top. i've never been a fan of simms though and the division is really tough.

atlanta and NO will both be better this year, i think. I think that division has a great shot at 3 teams in the playoffs.

[Vincewithouthee]

thats a huge "if" though. Even so, rookie QB's never do anything. Big Ben did is the only one who has done something and thats because he had the team around him. Arizona doesnt have the D to win them games and you need that w/ a rookie QB.

I think Cards fans should be pretty happy w/ an 8-8 season. Next year, if they take further steps to address the D, they could be a big-time contender.

Yeah, a huge "if", especially against the Steelers, Patriots, Bears, and Broncos. Haha.

Yeah I see a 8-8 season this year. I'd be happy with that as a Cards fan. They'll be a great team in the future if they improve their D.

[fromwithin]

thats a huge "if" though. Even so, rookie QB's never do anything. Big Ben did is the only one who has done something and thats because he had the team around him. Arizona doesnt have the D to win them games and you need that w/ a rookie QB.

I think Cards fans should be pretty happy w/ an 8-8 season. Next year, if they take further steps to address the D, they could be a big-time contender.

He wouldve been #1 if he came out last year, and he went back and had another stellar season. Most players have a hard time making the transition to the NFL but I think Leinart will have no problem whatsoever. 10-6.

[LeftWideOpen]

He wouldve been #1 if he came out last year, and he went back and had another stellar season. Most players have a hard time making the transition to the NFL but I think Leinart will have no problem whatsoever. 10-6.

peyton manning, david carr, tim couch, eli manning, mike vick, carson palmer ....all #1 picks and none of them were succesful as rookies (palmer didnt even play). So, I don't think that means anything ..it's just too tough of a transistion for QB's to make and even though I like Leinart and think he'll be a very good pro, the chances of him leading Arizona to a 10-6 record when he isnt even slated to start are very, very low.

[preppyak]

Philip Rivers is gonna surprise a lot of people this year
by looking like Brett Favre last year?

Seriously, did you see him at season's end, he looked so unprepared as a starter that it was embarassing. He has LT and Gates, and they are going to have to come up big for him in my mind, otherwise he is going to struggle

[Broken Parachute]

I'm not being biased..the Giants have a big chance this year. They better not mess up this time.

[Tim Thomas]

Cardinals vs Bungals. The ultimate teams of the 90's meet.

[ActorInThisPlay]

no, because i'm not the one dumb enough to throw guarantees around in may like i know everything.



leinart is going to be holding a clipboard for at least a portion of the season. My guess is he doesn't even play 5 games, but who knows. Either way, Warner is going to get his shot.




well i hope you are right about the pats, i just can't pick against the steelers right now. everyone else who matters (indy, NE, Cincy) got worse or have serious question marks.



The Bucs would shock me just cause I can't see Chris Simms leading a team to the Super Bowl. That'd be as crazy as Dilfer leading the Ravens to me.
I really don't see the Steelers going back and I think last year was a fluke for them. They played great don't get me wrong and they deserved it but the chances of that happening again are slim.

This is only Chris Simm's second year starting so you can't exactly call him a Trent Dilfer yet. He has matured more and might be able to lead this team to a championship. I think the Bucs have just as good of a shot as anyone else in the NFC.

[Stereo Therapy]

patriots win against, um, the cardinals

for no reason other than i like the patriots

[Goodbye Forever]

I really don't see the Steelers going back and I think last year was a fluke for them. They played great don't get me wrong and they deserved it but the chances of that happening again are slim.

This is only Chris Simm's second year starting so you can't exactly call him a Trent Dilfer yet. He has matured more and might be able to lead this team to a championship. I think the Bucs have just as good of a shot as anyone else in the NFC.

The Steelers went 15-1 the season before... How could they even remotely be considered a fluke?

[LostSymphonies]

patriots win against, um, the cardinals

for no reason other than i like the patriots

Patriots are falling apart, they wont be a contender for a few years

plus i fucking hate them

[FondestMemory]

Super Bowl matchup will be one of the first preseason games:

Pittsburgh vs Arizona. But seriously, I dont see other teams giving Pittsburgh a hard time. If Cincy, more importantly Carson Palmer bounces back quickly then they might have a shot. Denver is another one with the pickup of Walker and the nice draft they had.

Arizona is the longest shot in the world, but I absolutely think this team has a shot especially with the perfection of the draft and the pickup of edge.


I think the biggest turnaround will come from Drew Brees and the Saints. Even though he has no weapons besides Bush to work with, he'll make plays.

What about Rookie of the Year guys?

i never thought i'd say this about anything you say about football, but i agree with pretty much everything there.

if ben stays healthy, steelers will be tough to beat. cincy's defense is too shaky. denver can be a good team, but they need to worry about coming out of their division before they can cause any damage. kansas city and possibly miami could also challenge for the afc.

arizona will be good, but i think they're a couple years away from being a contender. 8-8 sounds good for this year, and for that franchise would be huge. seattle should have a hold on that division for a couple more years, and st. louis may be able to do some damage. they'll have work to do, but they'll be good.

and people are sleeping on brees. he's got a decent team around him, better than people are giving credit for. he took shit for only throwing to gates, but gates was all he had. horn, mcallister and bush are a good start. plus, if stallworth has a year everybody thinks he's capable of, that's another target. as long as he comes back healthy, i think he'll surprise a lot of people.

[FallOutBoyPunch]

Patriots are falling apart, they wont be a contender for a few years

plus i fucking hate them

Me too. I've always hated the Pats, through everything, even though I'm from MA.

[itsjdiggity]

by looking like Brett Favre last year?

Seriously, did you see him at season's end, he looked so unprepared as a starter that it was embarassing. He has LT and Gates, and they are going to have to come up big for him in my mind, otherwise he is going to struggle

that's why he's gonna surprise you

booyaka

[Brownpants06]

Arizona - I'm bias because I love this team now
Denver - Jake Plummer in shape.

[itsjdiggity]

Arizona - I'm bias because I love this team now
Denver - Jake Plummer in shape.

Jake Plummer Bowl

everyone is gonna start loving the Cardinals

[Vincewithouthee]

I really don't see the Steelers going back and I think last year was a fluke for them. They played great don't get me wrong and they deserved it but the chances of that happening again are slim.



How was it a fluke? Because they were a #2 Wild Card team? Keep in mind that 2 out of the 5 games they lost were with Tommy Maddox starting at QB. One of those games, against Jacksonville (playoff team) went into OT. (They also played without some guy named Hines Ward that game too.) The other one with Maddox was against Baltimore.

The other 3 losses were not bad losses at all. We played a great game against the Pats, a healthy Pats team at that, we lost to a great, hot Colts team (and that was Ben's first game back coming off an injury), and lost to the Bengals in a shootout, 38-31.

Tell me, how is that season a fluke? Honestly. We beat the #1, #2, and #3 AFC seeded teams ON THE ROAD and beat the #1 NFC team in the Super Bowl. Really. Tell me, how was that season a fluke?

Oh and we were 15-1 the season before.

The Steelers are a much better team with a healthy Ben Roethlisberger. He's going to be healthy all of next season. And the scary part is, this is going to be only Ben's third year in the league. He's not even close to his prime.

[sweethypocrisy]

they might as well just quit then i guess, its official. no use in playing, mrs bonds has spoken.
hahahahahahhahaha

[Vincewithouthee]

i never thought i'd say this about anything you say about football, but i agree with pretty much everything there.

if ben stays healthy, steelers will be tough to beat. cincy's defense is too shaky. denver can be a good team, but they need to worry about coming out of their division before they can cause any damage. kansas city and possibly miami could also challenge for the afc.

arizona will be good, but i think they're a couple years away from being a contender. 8-8 sounds good for this year, and for that franchise would be huge. seattle should have a hold on that division for a couple more years, and st. louis may be able to do some damage. they'll have work to do, but they'll be good.

and people are sleeping on brees. he's got a decent team around him, better than people are giving credit for. he took shit for only throwing to gates, but gates was all he had. horn, mcallister and bush are a good start. plus, if stallworth has a year everybody thinks he's capable of, that's another target. as long as he comes back healthy, i think he'll surprise a lot of people.

I agree with everything you said.

My beef with Brees is his shoulder injury. If his shoulder gets messed up in anyway he's done. Other than that, I think he can do great for the Saints.

[ActorInThisPlay]

How was it a fluke? Because they were a #2 Wild Card team? Keep in mind that 2 out of the 5 games they lost were with Tommy Maddox starting at QB. One of those games, against Jacksonville (playoff team) went into OT. (They also played without some guy named Hines Ward that game too.) The other one with Maddox was against Baltimore.

The other 3 losses were not bad losses at all. We played a great game against the Pats, a healthy Pats team at that, we lost to a great, hot Colts team (and that was Ben's first game back coming off an injury), and lost to the Bengals in a shootout, 38-31.

Tell me, how is that season a fluke? Honestly. We beat the #1, #2, and #3 AFC seeded teams ON THE ROAD and beat the #1 NFC team in the Super Bowl. Really. Tell me, how was that season a fluke?

Oh and we were 15-1 the season before.

The Steelers are a much better team with a healthy Ben Roethlisberger. He's going to be healthy all of next season. And the scary part is, this is going to be only Ben's third year in the league. He's not even close to his prime.
you didn't play the Pats...Denver beat them in what was probably their worst game in the last 4 years. I think had Palmer not gotten hurt, the Bengals might have actually won that game. Don't get me wrong though, the Steelers played awesome and they deserved to get to the Super Bowl. They beat the Colts because of one missed FG really but completely destroyed a Denver team which I don't think should have been there in the first place. The Steelers did deserve it but everything kind of just fell into their laps at the right time and I just don't think that will happen again.

[FondestMemory]

The Steelers are a much better team with a healthy Ben Roethlisberger. He's going to be healthy all of next season. And the scary part is, this is going to be only Ben's third year in the league. He's not even close to his prime.

i really hope he is healthy all of next year. but he's gotta prove he can do that. i agree with all that, but the most important thing you didn't mention, is that if he does get hurt, tommy maddox is not the backup. therefore, they're a better team without ben this year than they were last.

[FondestMemory]

you didn't play the Pats...Denver beat them in what was probably their worst game in the last 4 years. I think had Palmer not gotten hurt, the Bengals might have actually won that game. Don't get me wrong though, the Steelers played awesome and they deserved to get to the Super Bowl. They beat the Colts because of one missed FG really but completely destroyed a Denver team which I don't think should have been there in the first place. The Steelers did deserve it but everything kind of just fell into their laps at the right time and I just don't think that will happen again.

what? we did play the pats. and it was a damn good game. we didn't play denver until the playoffs. i don't know what you're talking about.

and what if's don't mean anything. maybe the bengals would have won, but there's no way to tell. they split the season series, so it's not like there was a clear advantage. and beating the colts by one missed fg? are you serious? did you see any of that game? steelers dominated that entire game. it wasn't until one of the worst calls in the history of the sport that even gave indy an inkling of hope.

they earned their superbowl victory and their 15-1 record the year before. they're not a worse team this year than either of those two years. i'm not promising it'll happen again this year, but to rule it out in may is ridiculous. and to call last year a fluke is even worse.

[TotallyAdorable]

Arizona will never reach the Super Bowl as long as Bill Bidwell is in charge. That guy is worse luck than any kind of curse. I would love to say that St. Louis will bounce back with their defensive overhaul, however, Seattle will take the division. Arizona and St. Louis, probably, will be stuck on the outside looking in.

Superbowl prediction: Panthers over Broncos

[Stereo Therapy]

Patriots are falling apart, they wont be a contender for a few years

plus i fucking hate them

thats okay, i'm still gonna root for them.

[ActorInThisPlay]

what? we did play the pats. and it was a damn good game. we didn't play denver until the playoffs. i don't know what you're talking about.

and what if's don't mean anything. maybe the bengals would have won, but there's no way to tell. they split the season series, so it's not like there was a clear advantage. and beating the colts by one missed fg? are you serious? did you see any of that game? steelers dominated that entire game. it wasn't until one of the worst calls in the history of the sport that even gave indy an inkling of hope.

they earned their superbowl victory and their 15-1 record the year before. they're not a worse team this year than either of those two years. i'm not promising it'll happen again this year, but to rule it out in may is ridiculous. and to call last year a fluke is even worse.
did I say they didn't deserve it? please re-read my post again. and no you did not play the Pats in the playoffs, the regular season means absolutely nothing. maybe fluke wasn't the correct word to use there but I still don't see them repeating. if they do repeat you can call me out on it but I honestly doubt they will

[FondestMemory]

did I say they didn't deserve it? please re-read my post again. and no you did not play the Pats in the playoffs, the regular season means absolutely nothing. maybe fluke wasn't the correct word to use there but I still don't see them repeating. if they do repeat you can call me out on it but I honestly doubt they will

nobody ever said they played the pats in the postseason. he ran down the regular season losses to show that they were much better than a normal #6 seed.

[Vincewithouthee]

you didn't play the Pats...Denver beat them in what was probably their worst game in the last 4 years. I think had Palmer not gotten hurt, the Bengals might have actually won that game. Don't get me wrong though, the Steelers played awesome and they deserved to get to the Super Bowl. They beat the Colts because of one missed FG really but completely destroyed a Denver team which I don't think should have been there in the first place. The Steelers did deserve it but everything kind of just fell into their laps at the right time and I just don't think that will happen again.

You don't know what would've happened to the Steelers if they played the Pats, no one can know. It doesn't matter. The Steelers were unfavored in every game anyway. What the hell is the difference? That Palmer argument annoys the hell out of me. Again, anything could've happened. Palmer could've choked. Or Palmer could've continued playing better. Who knows. You don't know. With the Colts game....you forgot to mention that bullshit call with INT. The Steelers would've run the clock down more in that game and the Colts might've gotten close.....but there wouldn't be enough time left. Denver shouldn't have been there? Whatever. They played great football all season and beat the Pats, enough said.

Really, this whole argument really doesn't matter because the Steelers are the Super Bowl champs in the end. I'm just pissed at people saying that we're a fluke team and one of the worst Super Bowl winning teams ever. I soooo hope we prove everyone wrong this season.

[ActorInThisPlay]

You don't know what would've happened to the Steelers if they played the Pats, no one can know. It doesn't matter. The Steelers were unfavored in every game anyway. What the hell is the difference? That Palmer argument annoys the hell out of me. Again, anything could've happened. Palmer could've choked. Or Palmer could've continued playing better. Who knows. You don't know. With the Colts game....you forgot to mention that bullshit call with INT. The Steelers would've run the clock down more in that game and the Colts might've gotten close.....but there wouldn't be enough time left. Denver shouldn't have been there? Whatever. They played great football all season and beat the Pats, enough said.

Really, this whole argument really doesn't matter because the Steelers are the Super Bowl champs in the end. I'm just pissed at people saying that we're a fluke team and one of the worst Super Bowl winning teams ever. I soooo hope we prove everyone wrong this season.
well then Seattle should have won with all the bullshit calls they got in the Super Bowl. anyway it is over and the Steelers won, cool. I still don't see them repeating.

[FreshyFresh23]

i love all these Arizona picks just because they picked up Leinart and Edge.

Kurt warner is going to start the season first of all...

second they have absolutely terrible defense and in no way can seriously contend until they shore that up.

I had season tickets to the Cardinals last year since they played on campus and it was a joke watching them try to defend anything.

They beat the Titans, Rams and 49ers last year. nice resume

[Vincewithouthee]

i really hope he is healthy all of next year. but he's gotta prove he can do that. i agree with all that, but the most important thing you didn't mention, is that if he does get hurt, tommy maddox is not the backup. therefore, they're a better team without ben this year than they were last.

Yeah Batch is a good backup.

I'm so glad we don't have Maddox anymore. I'd love to see him go to the Dolphins (he's rumored to go there if they don't get Harrington). Then he'd probably start the first game if Culpepper is out, against us, at Pittsburgh. The Steelers fans would tear him apart. I feel bad for the guy, even though he does suck.

[FreshyFresh23]

well then Seattle should have won with all the bullshit calls they got in the Super Bowl. anyway it is over and the Steelers won, cool. I still don't see them repeating.

totally.

no way they repeat and i will offer someone a monetary bet to back it up. They lost enough key elements, in the locker room and on the field, that they dont have what it will take to get there.

[Vincewithouthee]

well then Seattle should have won with all the bullshit calls they got in the Super Bowl. anyway it is over and the Steelers won, cool. I still don't see them repeating.

That's totally different. Haha, I'm done, because this shit will never end.

We'll see. ;)

[FondestMemory]

totally.

no way they repeat and i will offer someone a monetary bet to back it up. They lost enough key elements, in the locker room and on the field, that they dont have what it will take to get there.

they lost bettis. that's like the only key element they lost on the field and in the locker room.

they lost kimo, but in that scheme he's replacable. they lost antwaan, but there's other receivers. he didn't make many catches, the offense will be fine without him. hope's gone, but he's replaceable. bettis is the only loss that will really hurt. but duce will play a full season to erase some of that hurt.

so, if one is enough, then yeah.

[Vincewithouthee]

they lost bettis. that's like the only key element they lost on the field and in the locker room.

they lost kimo, but in that scheme he's replacable. they lost antwaan, but there's other receivers. he didn't make many catches, the offense will be fine without him. hope's gone, but he's replaceable. bettis is the only loss that will really hurt. but duce will play a full season to erase some of that hurt.

so, if one is enough, then yeah.

Yeah exactly. Plus I think Keisel is much better than Kimo right NOW. Kimo only has about 1 more year left in him anyway.

Holmes will be good. Heath Miller's going to be even better this year....I'm not worried.

[FondestMemory]

Yeah exactly. Plus I think Keisel is much better than Kimo right NOW. Kimo only has about 1 more year left in him anyway.

Holmes will be good. Heath Miller's going to be even better this year....I'm not worried.

not to mention parker has a full season under his belt, he'll be better. and wilson and duce have to prove they belong. we'll be fine.

[fromwithin]

they lost bettis. that's like the only key element they lost on the field and in the locker room.

they lost kimo, but in that scheme he's replacable. they lost antwaan, but there's other receivers. he didn't make many catches, the offense will be fine without him. hope's gone, but he's replaceable. bettis is the only loss that will really hurt. but duce will play a full season to erase some of that hurt.

so, if one is enough, then yeah.

yeah all the trick plays are gone, and hope was the only good one in the secondary. no big loss.

[bigmike]

Super Bowl matchup will be one of the first preseason games:

Pittsburgh vs Arizona. But seriously, I dont see other teams giving Pittsburgh a hard time. If Cincy, more importantly Carson Palmer bounces back quickly then they might have a shot. Denver is another one with the pickup of Walker and the nice draft they had.

Arizona is the longest shot in the world, but I absolutely think this team has a shot especially with the perfection of the draft and the pickup of edge.


I think the biggest turnaround will come from Drew Brees and the Saints. Even though he has no weapons besides Bush to work with, he'll make plays.

What about Rookie of the Year guys?
you're a little to enammored with the cardinals to think rationally. they still have a shakey defense and rookie QB's don't lead their teams to superbowls or to great double digit win seasons to often. and no, ben roethlisberger is the exception, not the rule. Edge still has to prove he's not a product of the dome, peyton manning, those recievers and that O-Line. Kurt Warner... do i really have to say anything about him? and that defense still is just okay and you're not making the playoffs with a "just okay" defense. They're improved, they're just not run-away lock for the playoffs. everyone thought this about the lions last year and the year before, and it didn't happen. remember, you're still the cardinals.

also you can't say that brees will be good this year when you said during the draft that young/mccallister was better than brees/bush. and he doesn't have weapons? How about McCallister, reggie bush, and joe horn a pro bowl wide reciever who will see single coverage when bush splits out.

[FallOutBoyPunch]

you're a little to enammored with the cardinals to think rationally. they still have a shakey defense and rookie QB's don't lead their teams to superbowls or to great double digit win seasons to often. and no, ben roethlisberger is the exception, not the rule. Edge still has to prove he's not a product of the dome, peyton manning, those recievers and that O-Line. Kurt Warner... do i really have to say anything about him? and that defense still is just okay and you're not making the playoffs with a "just okay" defense. They're improved, they're just not run-away lock for the playoffs. everyone thought this about the lions last year and the year before, and it didn't happen. remember, you're still the cardinals.

The Cards never should have got rid of McCown. I've never liked Warner.
But think about it, you only need to win 8 or 9 games to make the playoffs in the NFC...hell, they might even be able to pull a 7-9 and get in somehow. And two of their games are against the 49ers. So..

[itsjdiggity]

Kurt Warner's wife looks lesbian-ish

[FallOutBoyPunch]

Kurt Warner's wife looks lesbian-ish
Haha, so true. I hate that dyke.

[looksthatkillbn]

I am so utterly disappointed. I did not see one Cleveland Browns prediction. Wow, and I thought I had respect for you guys. What could you be thinking?

[bigmike]

I am so utterly disappointed. I did not see one Cleveland Browns prediction. Wow, and I thought I had respect for you guys. What could you be thinking?
i would have picked them if joey hadn't said 'fuck no' to playing in cleveland.

[bigmike]

The Cards never should have got rid of McCown. I've never liked Warner.
But think about it, you only need to win 8 or 9 games to make the playoffs in the NFC...hell, they might even be able to pull a 7-9 and get in somehow. And two of their games are against the 49ers. So..
no. no team will make the playoffs this year in the NFC at 7-9. i feel pretty safe in saying that. hey, you want McCown back? we'll trade. we'll give you shaun king, mccown, roy williams, mike williams, charles rogers, one of our 38 running backs stealing time from kevin jones, a barry sanders jersey, a scott mitchell autographed jersey, our owner and GM for boldin and fitzgerald. deal?

[LeftWideOpen]

i know this is said every year ...but watch out for the falcons this season. i think they are a sleeper pick for the SB if Vick can learn to manage a game. He's got two very good RB's, young WRs who are progressing fast and a talented TE. Add John Abraham to the defense and you have a very formidable unit. I think they'll give any team a run for their money.

of course when vick screws shit up and atlanta starts 3-4, I'll pretend I never said this.

[ThriftWhore]

Way too early to speculate, once it gets closer i'm sure we'll have a thread where we'll pick divisional winners, playoffs, superbowl, and of course the voting for rookie of the year, most valuable player, comeback player.

[ThriftWhore]

i know this is said every year ...but watch out for the falcons this season. i think they are a sleeper pick for the SB if Vick can learn to manage a game. He's got two very good RB's, young WRs who are progressing fast and a talented TE. Add John Abraham to the defense and you have a very formidable unit. I think they'll give any team a run for their money.

of course when vick screws shit up and atlanta starts 3-4, I'll pretend I never said this.
Vick's been practicing with his WR's early this mini-camp, when the past two years he's been inside trying to get down the west coast offense. plus most west coast offense qb's pick up the system by year 3, i think vick could have an mvp year.

[bigmike]

Vick's been practicing with his WR's early this mini-camp, when the past two years he's been inside trying to get down the west coast offense. plus most west coast offense qb's pick up the system by year 3, i think vick could have an mvp year.
until he learns to put some touch on his throws, he won't be close to an mvp caliber QB. he still bullets everything in there at this recievers like they're the ones that gave him herpes.

[btbam > you]

Vick's been practicing with his WR's early this mini-camp, when the past two years he's been inside trying to get down the west coast offense. plus most west coast offense qb's pick up the system by year 3, i think vick could have an mvp year.

vick will never be MVP. that would be a disgrace to the game.

[Drew Beringer]

Packers vs Colts.

[lanolynn]

seattle over denver

[FallOutBoyPunch]

no. no team will make the playoffs this year in the NFC at 7-9. i feel pretty safe in saying that. hey, you want McCown back? we'll trade. we'll give you shaun king, mccown, roy williams, mike williams, charles rogers, one of our 38 running backs stealing time from kevin jones, a barry sanders jersey, a scott mitchell autographed jersey, our owner and GM for boldin and fitzgerald. deal?

Hahaha, best football quote I've ever read. May I rob it for my sig?

[FondestMemory]

yeah all the trick plays are gone, and hope was the only good one in the secondary. no big loss.

you're right, because the steelers have never ever ran trick plays under cowher until randle el came around. are you serious? they've always ran trick plays, they run them with whatever they've got. hines can run them, omar jacobs can now run them. they'll be fine. they may not run them as well as with antwaan, but you're talking about like 1-2 plays a game. not that big of a deal.

and you're also right about the secondary. somehow i keep forgetting that hope was loads better than polamalu. he had a good season, but he's been inconsistent up to this year. they have two people to compete to be his replacement, and either one of them can do the job he did. with polamalu, it's not like they're asking a lot from the free safety position.

[fromwithin]

you're a little to enammored with the cardinals to think rationally. they still have a shakey defense and rookie QB's don't lead their teams to superbowls or to great double digit win seasons to often. and no, ben roethlisberger is the exception, not the rule. Edge still has to prove he's not a product of the dome, peyton manning, those recievers and that O-Line. Kurt Warner... do i really have to say anything about him? and that defense still is just okay and you're not making the playoffs with a "just okay" defense. They're improved, they're just not run-away lock for the playoffs. everyone thought this about the lions last year and the year before, and it didn't happen. remember, you're still the cardinals.

also you can't say that brees will be good this year when you said during the draft that young/mccallister was better than brees/bush. and he doesn't have weapons? How about McCallister, reggie bush, and joe horn a pro bowl wide reciever who will see single coverage when bush splits out.
hahaha oh my god I would NEVER say a thing like that. I've said all along that Vince Young will be the biggest bust since Ryan Leaf. As for the Saints they must be going to a 2 back system, but why would they pay Mcallister that huge contract when they have Bush ready? Also, an injury to Horn, Bush, or Mcallister really deflates their offense.

I said the Cardinals were a longshot, they wont make the superbowl, but they WILL make the playoffs. This is their schedule:

Sep 10 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week1) San Francisco (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/SF)4:15pm (Win)
Sep 17 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week2)@Seattle (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/SEA)4:05pm (Loss)
Sep 24 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week3)St. Louis (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/STL) 4:15pm (Win)
Oct 1 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week4)@Atlanta (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/ATL)1:00pm (Loss)
Oct 8 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week5)Kansas City (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/KC)4:05pm (Loss)
Oct 16 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week6)Chicago (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/CHI)8:30pm (Win)
Oct 22 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week7)@Oakland (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/OAK)4:15pm (Win)
Oct 29 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week8)@Green Bay (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/GB)1:00pm (Loss)
Week 9 BYE
Nov 12 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week10)Dallas (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/DAL)4:15pm (Win)
Nov 19 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week11)Detroit (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/DET)4:05pm (Win)
Nov 26 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week12)@Minnesota (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/MIN)1:00pm (Win)
Dec 3 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week13)@St. Louis (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/STL)1:00pm (Loss)
Dec 10 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week14)Seattle (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/SEA)4:05pm(Loss)
Dec 17 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week15)Denver (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/DEN)4:05pm (Win)
Dec 24 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week16)@San Francisco (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/SF)4:05pm (Win)
Dec 31 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week17)@San Diego (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/SD)4:15pm (Win)

They really could go 10-6.

[ImpulZe]

Don't rule out Green Bay, they filled all their needs in the draft and free agency, we got a line and Favre for one more year, so hey barring major injury were good


Green Bay vs KC

[Rock]

Steelers vs. "It doesn't matter." The only question now is not will the Steelers repeat, but how many times?

[leftstranded]

Here are my predictions for the 2006 nfl season.....

1. Sean Alexander goes down with injury early(he's on the cover of madden this year)
2. Steelers make it too the playoffs, but lose to bronco's and broncos are in the super bowl this finally
3. Panthers finally come through in the playoffs and face the broncos
4. Browns win 7 games next season(from a browns fan)
5. 49ers do better than people expect(from a niners fan
6. Vince Young plays all season and people say "he's a letdown" when he still had a good year
7. Reggie Bush get's rookie of the year just because of what he did in the passing game
8. Colts don't make it to the super bowl again and payton get's pissed
9. Patriots fail(I HATE TOM BRADY!!!!!!!!!!)

So to answer the question......Broncos and Panthers in the super bowl with the panthers coming ontop for their first super bowl win

[itsjdiggity]

Vince Young plays all season and people say "he's a letdown" because he's a black qb

[leftstranded]

Vince Young plays all season and people say "he's a letdown" because he's a black qb

and it pisses me off.

[cuetheflames]

Denver is going to be sick this year with Javon Walker as another reciever threat.

Denver in the super bowl for the AFC.

[xearlynovemberx]

giants/dolphins

[xearlynovemberx]

to touch on my last post are you guys forgetting how much the giants defense has improved? they finally have a competent secondary and the defense is the best on paper in the nfc if they can stay healthy its only elis second full season in the leauge and now he has the game braker in sinorice moss that they so desperatley needed with him plax shockey and toomer teams are going to have a very hard time stopping them not to mention it will prob take a load off tikis back remember it did take peyton 3 years to win his first playoff game and i think eli finally has the team to make it to the superbowl

[Vincewithouthee]

to touch on my last post are you guys forgetting how much the giants defense has improved? they finally have a competent secondary and the defense is the best on paper in the nfc if they can stay healthy its only elis second full season in the leauge and now he has the game braker in sinorice moss that they so desperatley needed with him plax shockey and toomer teams are going to have a very hard time stopping them not to mention it will prob take a load off tikis back remember it did take peyton 3 years to win his first playoff game and i think eli finally has the team to make it to the superbowl

hahaha what a run on sentence that was. ;)

But, I do see what you mean. Although, I don't see the Giants going far in the playoffs this year.

[cuetheflames]

hahaha what a run on sentence that was. ;)

But, I do see what you mean. Although, I don't see the Giants going far in the playoffs this year.

yeah same.

[hockey0001]

Pats ( homer pick, but i do thikn they will make it) vs Carolina

Sleeper picks, Dolphins and Giants

[xearlynovemberx]

hahaha what a run on sentence that was. ;)

But, I do see what you mean. Although, I don't see the Giants going far in the playoffs this year.

if they even make the playoffs. the sched is a BITCH

[hockey0001]

Patriots are falling apart, they wont be a contender for a few years

plus i fucking hate them

I disagree. Harrison should be back, and that has a huge impact on the secondary. Brady should have a running game to work with this year. I think Watson is gonna have a huge year based on how he ended last season. Patriots will still be a contender for as long as they have Bellichick and Brady.

[Chris289]

all i'm gonna say is dont count out Miami, everyone seems to do this because they're in the same division as the Pats.... my pick, Miami vs. Carolina.

[bigmike]

hahaha oh my god I would NEVER say a thing like that. I've said all along that Vince Young will be the biggest bust since Ryan Leaf. As for the Saints they must be going to a 2 back system, but why would they pay Mcallister that huge contract when they have Bush ready? Also, an injury to Horn, Bush, or Mcallister really deflates their offense.

I said the Cardinals were a longshot, they wont make the superbowl, but they WILL make the playoffs. This is their schedule:

Sep 10 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week1) San Francisco (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/SF)4:15pm (Win)
Sep 17 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week2)@Seattle (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/SEA)4:05pm (Loss)
Sep 24 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week3)St. Louis (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/STL) 4:15pm (Win)
Oct 1 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week4)@Atlanta (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/ATL)1:00pm (Loss)
Oct 8 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week5)Kansas City (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/KC)4:05pm (Loss)
Oct 16 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week6)Chicago (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/CHI)8:30pm (Win)
Oct 22 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week7)@Oakland (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/OAK)4:15pm (Win)
Oct 29 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week8)@Green Bay (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/GB)1:00pm (Loss)
Week 9 BYE
Nov 12 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week10)Dallas (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/DAL)4:15pm (Win)
Nov 19 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week11)Detroit (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/DET)4:05pm (Win)
Nov 26 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week12)@Minnesota (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/MIN)1:00pm (Win)
Dec 3 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week13)@St. Louis (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/STL)1:00pm (Loss)
Dec 10 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week14)Seattle (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/SEA)4:05pm(Loss)
Dec 17 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week15)Denver (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/DEN)4:05pm (Win)
Dec 24 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week16)@San Francisco (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/SF)4:05pm (Win)
Dec 31 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2006/week17)@San Diego (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/SD)4:15pm (Win)

They really could go 10-6.
I think they could get swept by saint louis, and they're not beating denver. thus, taking 1-3 wins from there leaving them at something like 9-7 (at best) down to7-9.

and i thought it was you that said that about brees/mccalister, but i couldn't find it and i know someone said it.

[bigmike]

Hahaha, best football quote I've ever read. May I rob it for my sig?
yeah, you can definitely rob it for your sig.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Herm Edwards will never win a Super Bowl, unless the opposing coach is Marty Schottenheimer.

Pittsburgh over Carolina.

I don't see Pittsburgh doing it again, which is a sad statement for me to say. I'm from Pittsburgh and I loved that we won. I still am excited about it. However, we lost some key people. I'm not sure our draft picks will help any. But we'll see.

[bigmike]

I don't see Pittsburgh doing it again, which is a sad statement for me to say. I'm from Pittsburgh and I loved that we won. I still am excited about it. However, we lost some key people. I'm not sure our draft picks will help any. But we'll see.
i thought they had a great draft. that said, it's very very hard to repeat and i always bet against a team winning two titles in a row.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Pitt will not go to the Super Bowl next year...guaranteed.

I'm not sure I can guarantee it, but I have great doubts they'll come close.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I'm not counting out The Colts..

[jusscali]

pats bitches...i dont give a fuck what you have to say about it

ive just learned to never doubt them over the past few years, even if i disagree with some of the stuff theyve done this offseason. some of course not even out fault

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Denver Broncos vs. New York Giants

..is my final thought

[GoWaitInTheCar]

pats bitches...i dont give a fuck what you have to say about it




lol.

That's cool though. I kinda know what you mean, they always F Pittsburgh in The A.

[jusscali]

Denver Broncos vs. New York Giants

..is my final thought
thats a good pick, and i kinda like both those fuckers
more than seeing the colts or mike vick in the superbowl

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Yeah Batch is a good backup.

I'm so glad we don't have Maddox anymore. I'd love to see him go to the Dolphins (he's rumored to go there if they don't get Harrington). Then he'd probably start the first game if Culpepper is out, against us, at Pittsburgh. The Steelers fans would tear him apart. I feel bad for the guy, even though he does suck.

I wouldn't tear Maddox up, he's not as good as he was, but I have much respect for him. He used to save our asses. Remember Stewart? He saved our asses from having him as the starter..

[GoWaitInTheCar]

thats a good pick, and i kinda like both those fuckers
more than seeing the colts or mike vick in the superbowl

The Giants offensive is impressive if they can get it going. This year, I believe they will.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Kurt Warner's wife looks lesbian-ish

He's washed up now.

I'd rather pick up Trent Dilfer if I wanted an old QB.

[FondestMemory]

He's washed up now.

I'd rather pick up Trent Dilfer if I wanted an old QB.

i don't understand the washed up talk surrounding kurt warner.

in games he started last year he averaged 279 yards passing. if that's washed up, i'd take a washed up warnter over dilfer anyday.

but, actually, there's few people i wouldn't take over dilfer.

[LeftWideOpen]

Denver Broncos vs. New York Giants

..is my final thought

Giants wont even be a playoff team, IMO. Tiki is veryt unlikely to match his numbers from last season and I've never been that impressed with Eli. They could easily finish 3rd or 4th in that division and when you consider that the South is loaded too ..the Giants become that 7th or 8th place team that misses out to me.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Giants wont even be a playoff team, IMO. Tiki is veryt unlikely to match his numbers from last season and I've never been that impressed with Eli. They could easily finish 3rd or 4th in that division and when you consider that the South is loaded too ..the Giants become that 7th or 8th place team that misses out to me.

The South is infact loaded this year. There isn't any stats that I could use to back up The Giants, I mean I could use last year, but you are right, Tiki won't put up the same numbers this year. I just feel like they'll finally mesh and their defense will tighten up, with the signing of Short and everyone else they have coming in. I like their spirit and their intensity. Eli to Plaxico, Eli to Shockey. Both connections will be hot.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dallas made a run. They'll be better this year, obviously with T.O. I'm not sure if they'll have it all together this year, but next year they will. And after that year, I predict their chances will be over. Bledsoe won't be as sharp and T.O. staying in a city for more then three years is questionable this day and age. Hah, it's a long way in the future but I can easily see this happening.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Which brings up another subject..

Will The Eagles or Cowboys have a better record this season?

With all the T.O. drama it will be interesting to see who it worked out for..

[xearlynovemberx]

Giants wont even be a playoff team, IMO. Tiki is veryt unlikely to match his numbers from last season and I've never been that impressed with Eli. They could easily finish 3rd or 4th in that division and when you consider that the South is loaded too ..the Giants become that 7th or 8th place team that misses out to me.

hahah ur out of ur mind if u think they finish third or fourth

[GoWaitInTheCar]

hahah ur out of ur mind if u think they finish third or fourth

I think they'll go to The Super Bowl this year, I really do. They are coming together with a fierce team.

But honestly if they finish that far down, I won't be surprised, they are gonna click or not gonna click. Hit or miss.

[xearlynovemberx]

I think they'll go to The Super Bowl this year, I really do. They are coming together with a fierce team.

But honestly if they finish that far down, I won't be surprised, they are gonna click or not gonna click. Hit or miss.

it all falls on eli not making bad reads/poor throws and the defense staying healthy

[xearlynovemberx]

Which brings up another subject..

Will The Eagles or Cowboys have a better record this season?

With all the T.O. drama it will be interesting to see who it worked out for..

i think the eagles if mcnabb stays healthy

[GoWaitInTheCar]

it all falls on eli not making bad reads/poor throws and the defense staying healthy

Eli has the tools. He has the talent. He's just gotta chill out a bit. It can all click.

Your statement is very true.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

i think the eagles if mcnabb stays healthy

I'm not sure.

But I'm going for The Cowboys. There is to many "ifs" with The Eagles this year. But it could go any way.

[xearlynovemberx]

Eli has the tools. He has the talent. He's just gotta chill out a bit. It can all click.

Your statement is very true.

he looked like a chicken running around with a head against carolina last year. losing all the lbs last year was very bad timing that game shouldn't have been as bad as it was had pierce and or emmons played

[xearlynovemberx]

I'm not sure.

But I'm going for The Cowboys. There is to many "ifs" with The Eagles this year. But it could go any way.

im never optimistic with a team that has t.o.

[LeftWideOpen]

hahah ur out of ur mind if u think they finish third or fourth

you act as if they are a team w/ no holes in a weak division? It took an out of this world kind of year from tiki barber for the giants to win the division last year and they only did that by one game. The 3rd place Cowboys were just two games back. Both of those teams addressed weaknesses, so the pressure is on Eli more than ever and I don't think he's an elite QB. I don't think the Giants are a 6-10 kind of 3rd place team, more like a 9-7, 8-8 3rd place team. The NFC East is a tough division though, as is the NFC South, and I think with Eli leading the way, the Giants are just an average team.

[preppyak]

you act as if they are a team w/ no holes in a weak division? It took an out of this world kind of year from tiki barber for the giants to win the division last year and they only did that by one game. The 3rd place Cowboys were just two games back. Both of those teams addressed weaknesses, so the pressure is on Eli more than ever and I don't think he's an elite QB. I don't think the Giants are a 6-10 kind of 3rd place team, more like a 9-7, 8-8 3rd place team. The NFC East is a tough division though, as is the NFC South, and I think with Eli leading the way, the Giants are just an average team.
I agree with both of those...and the fact that, at least to this point, Eli hasn't shown himself to be an elite quarterback.

The Cowboys and Eagles have upgraded, and the Redskins were a 10-6 team last year...it is going to be a tough division, where I think the difference between 1st and 4th is only a few games.


And here is some absurd shit from ScoutingNews, in evaluating the draft

New Orleans Saints (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nor/) -- A-
The Saints were smart to take running back Reggie Bush (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7751/) even though they don't need him. Their other picks were OK, though wide receivers Mike Hass and Marques Colston have potential.

Tennessee Titans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ten/) -- C
The Titans should have taken Matt Leinart, who would have fit well with their offense. They also took a big risk on running back LenDale White (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7794/) in the second round.

Like, in evaluating the draft, shouldn't things like the actual need for your team be the most important in making the choices...and then, how is a guy who was thought to project to be a better NFL back then Bush (the hype after the Rose Bowl was that...mostly due to him having the body to last) and at the very least go in the 15-20 range in the 1st round a bad pick when you get him in the 2nd?

It was probably one of the worst articles I have ever read evaluating the draft

[GoWaitInTheCar]

The Cowboys and Eagles have upgraded, and the Redskins were a 10-6 team last year...it is going to be a tough division, where I think the difference between 1st and 4th is only a few games.

Yeah it will be interesting. As you said I can see the the gap between 1st and 4th be a matter of a few games.

[hockey0001]

I agree with both of those...and the fact that, at least to this point, Eli hasn't shown himself to be an elite quarterback.

The Cowboys and Eagles have upgraded, and the Redskins were a 10-6 team last year...it is going to be a tough division, where I think the difference between 1st and 4th is only a few games.


And here is some absurd shit from ScoutingNews, in evaluating the draft

New Orleans Saints (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nor/) -- A-
The Saints were smart to take running back Reggie Bush (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7751/) even though they don't need him. Their other picks were OK, though wide receivers Mike Hass and Marques Colston have potential.

Tennessee Titans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ten/) -- C
The Titans should have taken Matt Leinart, who would have fit well with their offense. They also took a big risk on running back LenDale White (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7794/) in the second round.

Like, in evaluating the draft, shouldn't things like the actual need for your team be the most important in making the choices...and then, how is a guy who was thought to project to be a better NFL back then Bush (the hype after the Rose Bowl was that...mostly due to him having the body to last) and at the very least go in the 15-20 range in the 1st round a bad pick when you get him in the 2nd?

It was probably one of the worst articles I have ever read evaluating the draft

Bush is a once in a generation type player, you have to pick him unless you already have a superstar at that position. White is a question mark because there are questions about his health (his hamstring), i heard something about failing a drug test, his weight has been questioned, and most importantly there are questions about his work ethic

[LeftWideOpen]

Bush is a once in a generation type player, you have to pick him unless you already have a superstar at that position. White is a question mark because there are questions about his health (his hamstring), i heard something about failing a drug test, his weight has been questioned, and most importantly there are questions about his work ethic

yeah i think there's a big chance that tennesee's draft winds up as a huge bust. They grabbed popular players who have talent so they are being heralded by the media ..but both Young and White are big question marks.

[bigmike]

yeah i think there's a big chance that tennesee's draft winds up as a huge bust. They grabbed popular players who have talent so they are being heralded by the media ..but both Young and White are big question marks.
lendale white is less of a question mark than vince young.
To me, white is just hungry with some workout issues. which is a big deal.
Young, however, is a product of being a better athlete than everyone else in the shitty "little" 12 conference last year. he's a poor man's mike vick as he's not as fast nor does have as strong an arm as mike vick. and if vick's not an elite qb, there's no way in hell vince young becomes one.

[yodaplaysdrums]

Tampa Bay all the way
I agree. They have a pirate flag. Need I say anymore.

[hockey0001]

lendale white is less of a question mark than vince young.
To me, white is just hungry with some workout issues. which is a big deal.
Young, however, is a product of being a better athlete than everyone else in the shitty "little" 12 conference last year. he's a poor man's mike vick as he's not as fast nor does have as strong an arm as mike vick. and if vick's not an elite qb, there's no way in hell vince young becomes one.

i agree. I think White will end up being a solid running back but Young has a lot of improvements that he needs to make to avoid being a huge bust.

[LeftWideOpen]

in other draft-related news, word is that chad jackson looked phenomenal in his 1st practice and has the inside track to start opposite deion branch. i'm beginning to love the decision to trade up for him more and more.

[Vincewithouthee]

in other draft-related news, word is that chad jackson looked phenomenal in his 1st practice and has the inside track to start opposite deion branch. i'm beginning to love the decision to trade up for him more and more.

He was an absolute steal in the 2nd round. He could be really good.

[hockey0001]

in other draft-related news, word is that chad jackson looked phenomenal in his 1st practice and has the inside track to start opposite deion branch. i'm beginning to love the decision to trade up for him more and more.

i read that also and was very excited about it. The only negative about him so far and coming in and out of his cuts, but that can be improved upon in practice.

[LeftWideOpen]

i read that also and was very excited about it. The only negative about him so far and coming in and out of his cuts, but that can be improved upon in practice.

yeah, apparently a big reason he fell down draft boards were because of the large number of Florida WRs who've been busts. But, those were all WRs who played for Spurrier's Fun n Gun.

[leftstranded]

i don't understand the washed up talk surrounding kurt warner.

in games he started last year he averaged 279 yards passing. if that's washed up, i'd take a washed up warnter over dilfer anyday.

but, actually, there's few people i wouldn't take over dilfer.

your from youngstown and i'm assuming a browns fan. yes he sucked with cleveland but i think he finally found a "good" home in sanfran. he will be a good mentor to alex smith sence he's only got a few years left in him anyway and smith was obismal last year it could work out. The browns didn't get shit for that deal, we got KEN DORSEY!

Have you seen dorsey play, i would rather take a fat warren moon over ken dorsey.

[leftstranded]

i think the eagles if mcnabb stays healthy

i don't see them even getting second in their division. they havn't done as much this offseason as the redskins or cowboys and the giants are gonna be sick next year too. The redskins addressed about every issue they had. mcnabb has no one to throw to now. good luck.

[DaveFeelsRight]

Da Bears

[FondestMemory]

you're from youngstown and i'm assuming a browns fan. yes he sucked with cleveland but i think he finally found a "good" home in sanfran. he will be a good mentor to alex smith sence he's only got a few years left in him anyway and smith was obismal last year it could work out. The browns didn't get shit for that deal, we got KEN DORSEY!

Have you seen dorsey play, i would rather take a fat warren moon over ken dorsey.

that's worth a slap in the face. i was born and raised a steeler fan.

and my opinion of dilfer being god awful was formed before he ever took a snap for cleveland.

dude's always been worthless.

[leftstranded]

that's worth a slap in the face. i was born and raised a steeler fan.

and my opinion of dilfer being god awful was formed before he ever took a snap for cleveland.

dude's always been worthless.

dilfer is the product of a great defence in baltimore. but i said his experience in the nfl will help alex smith mature. might not be able to show him much as a quaterback but he will be able to take him under his wing and show him around the nfl

[FondestMemory]

dilfer is the product of a great defence in baltimore. but i said his experience in the nfl will help alex smith mature. might not be able to show him much as a quaterback but he will be able to take him under his wing and show him around the nfl

he had that chance last year with frye and did a horrible job. the one positive about dilfer is that he's incredibally competitive. but that is always going to get in the way of playing the mentor to anybody.

[Split2nd]

He was an absolute steal in the 2nd round. He could be really good.

Yeah, I was extremely pissed when I saw the Pats nabbed him, because I hate the Pats. It was a great pick.

I'm going to go with the Steelers from the AFC, and either the Bears or Giants from the NFC. I like Tampa a lot as well.

It should be interesting to see how the Bengals do with a tough schedule this year after winning the division last year. Hopefully Carson gets healthy, I like that rivalry.

[Split2nd]

Pitt will not go to the Super Bowl next year...guaranteed.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5026/8whxf69ol.jpg

[Jesse2]

i think seattle will be the team to beat in the NFC.

[LeftWideOpen]

i think seattle will be the team to beat in the NFC.

it seems like a toss up between them and carolina to me. i still think atlanta has huge potential too, but i think that every year and they always choke. abraham was one of the best offseason pickups though.

[Jesse2]

it seems like a toss up between them and carolina to me. i still think atlanta has huge potential too, but i think that every year and they always choke. abraham was one of the best offseason pickups though.

I've given up on picking atlanta to be a contender. Year in and year out they are good enough on paper, but never seem to play to their potential.

As for Carolina, I wasn't that impressed with them last year. Between the NFC championship game (I know they were on their 13th string RB), and some of their other 2005 losses... I dunno, I thought they were pretty overrated.

[FondestMemory]

carolina may have been a bit overrated last year. i didn't buy all the preseason hype they got, but they were still a damn good team. they'll be even better this year.

i agree that seattle is the team to beat in the nfc, with carolina close behind. seattle won't breeze through the conference as easily this year though. the nfc should be pretty damn competitive.

but, with that said, i think whoever wins the east will be extremely tough to beat in the playoffs. that division should be extremely competitive, and whoever wins it will be beyond battle tested.

[dekdog11]

this was my prediction last year, and boy was i wrong.
but im going with it again
eagles - chiefs

[jusscali]

cough pats cough.

thats it ...fuck you

[Jesse2]

cough pats cough.

thats it ...fuck you

pshhhh

[leftstranded]

i hate the pats becuase i hate tom brady!!!