Capitalism: A Love Story

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[irthesteve]

He gets far too much hate these days, he makes good films. This should be interesting as well

[domotime2]

Moore a hypocrit?

A movie that attacks capitalism is being released to make profit....Moore is benefiting from the successes of capitalism, no? I mean this movie is being released in major movie theater companies, that try and exploit the capitalistic system as well, no? Just saying. I like moore's films, just being a bugger.

[TheOtherAndrew]

People who will never sit down and actually watch this movie are pissed!

[Analog Rebellion]

I don't hate Michael Moore, but he always seems to take good ideas and over-sensationalize them. Yes, capitalism is 'evil' in its purest, unregulated form, but reasonable, regulated capitalism, mixed with some government intervention for certain things is a good system.

Human beings are inherently greedy. It is built into us biologically. Greed is a survival mechanism. But in a modern world, we need rules, laws, and regulations to keep our greed from destroying and/or hurting others.

Also, I thought Bowling For Columbine was an absolutely god-awful movie. And I consider myself relatively liberal. It reeked of sensationalist bullshit and dishonest editing.

Also, at the end of the movie he suggests that we replace capitalism with democracy. Democracy is a form of government while capitalism is an economic/social system. Come on, Michael. You can do better that that. I'll still watch this, because there will be some good points made, but it's hard to take Michael Moore completely seriously.

Edit: Is anyone else sick of hearing Paper Airplanes in movie trailers? Haha.

Moore a hypocrit?

A movie that attacks capitalism is being released to make profit....Moore is benefiting from the successes of capitalism, no? I mean this movie is being released in major movie theater companies, that try and exploit the capitalistic system as well, no? Just saying. I like moore's films, just being a bugger.
There is a difference between exploiting capitalism for greed's sake (cheating people out of money in dishonest ways) and making money by spreading information.

Just saying.

I also think it's funny that I, as someone that does not like his work that much, am here defending him from someone that does like his work. Something new everyday, I guess :-)

[irthesteve]

People who will never sit down and actually watch this movie are pissed!
haha, very well said

[irthesteve]

And yes, I am absolutely tired of Paper Planes in movie trailers

[jeremypeele]

i can't wait to see this

[thepianominstre]

Business making out with government ≠ capitalism.

[Getup and Dance]

The only good Michael Moore movie is Canadian Bacon.

[screamoutmyname]

I've never watched a Michael Moore film, but this one definitely sounds of interest to me.

[loudpunkguitar]

The only good Michael Moore movie is Canadian Bacon.

lol

[Sventhegreat]

I hate his fat ass, but his movies intrigue me regardless.

[cory-182]

I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everyone.

- Barack Obama.

[shit stroll]

I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everyone.

- Barack Obama.

and your point is?

[paper halo]

and your point is?

He doesn't have one. He's an absolute moron.

[Praetor]

I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everyone.

- Barack Obama.
You don't know what socialism is. If 'spreading the wealth' was socialism then America has been a socialist country since 1913. Ronald Reagan and both Bushes were socialists. Once Obama starts putting workers in control of factories and he eliminates the concept of private property you can come back here and bitch about socialism. Your lack of comprehension on even the most fundamental, basic topics astounds me and only leads me to conclude that World Net Daily is your homepage, and Rush Limbaugh's talk show is your '1' preset in your car radio.

You're just fucking dumb. There's no way around it. The things you say are not matters of opinion. You're just wrong. You're wrong. Incorrect. Not right.

Oh, and not to mention that he's right. Inequal income distribution has proven to be extremely detrimental to the economy...

http://chattahbox.com/images/2009/08/share_total_income_going_to_top_10p ercent.jpg
What time period on this graph was the most income concentrated in the top 10%? Here's another brain teaser: what really important event (http://www.eslpod.com/eslpod_blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/stock_market_crash.jpg) happened the next year? How about the second most concentrated point on that graph? You know, the one occurring in 1928? God, you're a dumb fuck.

[Gaugzilla]

"Roger and Me" was a great, great documentary. MM will probably never quite reach that level again.

[Praetor]

I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everyone.

- Barack Obama.
Hey, it's me again. Just quoting you to reiterate my point: you're fucking dumb.

[Praetor]

I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everyone.

- Barack Obama.
Hey, still me. One more time should do the trick. You're still an idiot.

[cirerelleum]

Bowling for columbine was good
Farenhiet 9/11 was bleh
Sicko was really good
We'll see how this goes i suppose.

[Machu505]

I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everyone.

- Barack Obama.
Fuck yeah. Let's do it.

[TheOtherAndrew]

You don't know what socialism is. If 'spreading the wealth' was socialism then America has been a socialist country since 1913. Ronald Reagan and both Bushes were socialists. Once Obama starts putting workers in control of factories and he eliminates the concept of private property you can come back here and bitch about socialism. Your lack of comprehension on even the most fundamental, basic topics astounds me and only leads me to conclude that World Net Daily is your homepage, and Rush Limbaugh's talk show is your '1' preset in your car radio.

You're just fucking dumb. There's no way around it. The things you say are not matters of opinion. You're just wrong. You're wrong. Incorrect. Not right.

Oh, and not to mention that he's right. Inequal income distribution has proven to be extremely detrimental to the economy...

http://chattahbox.com/images/2009/08/share_total_income_going_to_top_10p ercent.jpg
What time period on this graph was the most income concentrated in the top 10%? Here's another brain teaser: what really important event (http://www.eslpod.com/eslpod_blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/stock_market_crash.jpg) happened the next year? How about the second most concentrated point on that graph? You know, the one occurring in 1928? God, you're a dumb fuck.
:appl: I cannot express in words how enjoyable reading this post was.

[cory-182]

Hey, still me. One more time should do the trick. You're still an idiot.

Is someone upset that their president isn't all that he cracked up to be?

9.7% unemployment rate? U.S. national debt 11 trillion+?

Looks like that stimulus package is working out great.

But hey, I didn't vote for him. I learned in my college economics classes that none of his ideas would work. But hey, you wouldn't know anything about that would you.....

[Praetor]

Is someone upset that their president isn't all that he cracked up to be?
He was better than the alternative.

9.7% unemployment rate? U.S. national debt 11 trillion+? Looks like it's your own fault for trusting his administration's projections for the unemployment rate. As for the rise in unemployment since he took office...well, let's be honest here, it's not like he inherited a nation in the greatest economic shape. If a mother gives birth to an AIDS baby, do you blame the baby?

Looks like that stimulus package is working out great. Not even the small portion that's been meted out has had enough time to manifest itself in the unemployment. If you were expecting a quick fix, then those 'college economics classes' failed you miserably. Not to mention 'common sense' and the 'ability to reason'.

But hey, I didn't vote for him. Hey, cool, neither did I.

I learned in my college economics classes that none of his ideas would work.What, welfare-state capitalism?

But hey, you wouldn't know anything about that would you..... Who needs facts, statistics, and logic when you have ageism? How about you rebut what I said (http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=53493072#post53493 072)?

You kind of remind me of a baby bird. See, when a mother bird raises her young, to feed them, she will ingest food, regurgitate it, and then deliver it into the beak of the baby. Sounds gross, right? Well, the baby birds don't really know any better, so they kind of just take what they're given. Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, (and any of the factfree nutterbutters who you regularly worship); they somehow won the media lottery are the mother birds - they ingest facts, regurgitate lies, conspiracy theories, and intellectually devoid "philosophies". You are the baby bird - and since you don't know any better, you gobble it up like there's no tomorrow.

Status check: you're still a fucking moron.

[stayforawhile]

I saw the first showing in Burlington Vermont and Bernie Sanders (VT senator, also in the movie) spoke afterwards. I really enjoyed it and thought it was very eye-opening and impactful, any other thoughts?

[saysmydoctor]

Bernie Sanders <3

/contribution

[CollectiveConfusion]

haven't seen it, and i don't plan on it. i agree with michael moore's politics, but i think he's a douche.

[cuzimlefthanded]

haven't seen it, and i don't plan on it. i agree with michael moore's politics, but i think he's a douche.

With you on that. A lot of the time he comes off as an annoying dick. But I'll probably end up seeing the flick anyways.

[CollectiveConfusion]

exactly. he's a smart guy but he goes way over the top, and it makes me WANT to disagree with him. i mean, caution tape around the aig building? give me a break

[Prestonxsmith]

I would see this, but its not playing anywhere around me.

[deFobbed14yrs]

he's too one sided, did anyone see sicko??

[tfot11]

Isn't it ironic that the only way he could make any money with this movie is by creating it/showing it in a capitalistic society. That hypocritical fatass can shut his mouth.

[Sventhegreat]

I'll eventually see it but i'm certainly not going out of my way to go and see it. Aka pay for it.

[hockeyguitar99]

Isn't it ironic that the only way he could make any money with this movie is by creating it/showing it in a capitalistic society. That hypocritical fatass can shut his mouth.

The premise of the movie is him highlighting failures that people with extreme power have made and him looking into it further. He's not saying capitalism is bad, but it certain;y isn't perfect.

[popdisaster00]

I'll eventually see it but i'm certainly not going out of my way to go and see it. Aka pay for it.
This, haha.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

he's too one sided, did anyone see sicko??

Sicko was very eye opening. Everyone knows that many many people can't afford health care and most people barely can. Not everyone knows how these companies hit record profits every year, it's absolutely disgusting. The profit does need to be cut out.
I'm looking forward to seeing this one. Only after corporate greed is regulated will America be able to even consider getting back on the right track. These companies write American's lives out for them.

[Prestonxsmith]

Isn't it ironic that the only way he could make any money with this movie is by creating it/showing it in a capitalistic society. That hypocritical fatass can shut his mouth.
Yeah, because releasing a movie about America for American's in other countries would be very prosperous...

[bard]

i'm seeing it on saturday. looking forward to it.

[xmicxcorex]

I do really want to see this, but will not have
a) time
b) money (ironic? probably not...)
so im just gonna wait till its rentable or on TV and watch it then.

[patpratt]

I'll eventually see it but i'm certainly not going out of my way to go and see it. Aka pay for it.

hahaha my thoughts exactly.

[deFobbed14yrs]

Sicko was very eye opening. Everyone knows that many many people can't afford health care and most people barely can. Not everyone knows how these companies hit record profits every year, it's absolutely disgusting. The profit does need to be cut out.
I'm looking forward to seeing this one. Only after corporate greed is regulated will America be able to even consider getting back on the right track. These companies write American's lives out for them.


so go to cuba! :thumbup:

[Un'Aria Ancora]

so go to cuba! :thumbup:

I would love for you explain that statement...
I want America to shift back to a people's democracy so I should move to a place that I have no interest in living in rather than trying to help?
Make sure your helmet is secure before you leave your home today.

[RedFive]

I'm waiting around for the sequel: Donuts: A Love Story.

[bard]

I'm waiting around for the sequel: Donuts: A Love Story.
oh man! cause he's fat, right?! that is so funny.

wow, i can't believe you went there! you're so edgy!

[ImTheSheriff]

I would love for you explain that statement...
I want America to shift back to a people's democracy so I should move to a place that I have no interest in living in rather than trying to help?
Make sure your helmet is secure before you leave your home today.

http://www.workers.org/2007/world/sicko-0607/

[RedFive]

oh man! cause he's fat, right?! that is so funny.

wow, i can't believe you went there! you're so edgy!

What? I went there because Donuts are allegorical to American Greed and Capitalism. I don't even know what he looks like. I was attempting to think up a witty sequel title. I apologize if I touched a nerve there, good sir. I would be happy to buy you a sugary treat to ease the pain.

[bard]

What? I went there because Donuts are allegorical to American Greed and Capitalism. I don't even know what he looks like. I was attempting to think up a witty sequel title. I apologize if I touched a nerve there, good sir. I would be happy to buy you a sugary treat to ease the pain.
first, i've never heard of donuts are allegorical to american greed or capitalism.

second, i'm not fat.

third, i'm positive you meant it as a fat joke. there is no other meaning behind your earlier post.

[RedFive]

You're assuming only fat people eat donuts. Donuts are delicious, enjoyable by all, and completely devoid of nutritional value. They are bought purely for enjoyment and sold purely for profit. Enjoyment and profit very much lie at the center of American capitalism, a center that can be viewed as devoid of any real substance like...a donut. We, Americans buy more for pure want and pleasure more than any other country in the world. Corporations realize this and their adds, products, and stores pervade our society. Donuts are not a necessity nor are they nutritional; yet we, the public continue to consume them. Abstract this down to its basic idea and you have: Temporary pleasures are not a necessity nor are they generally fulfilling; yet we, the people continue to spend money on them. Thus Donuts are in fact allegorical to American capitalism and greed, as evinced by the similarities I have just enumerated.

[ImTheSheriff]

You're assuming only fat people eat donuts. Donuts are delicious, enjoyable by all, and completely devoid of nutritional value. They are bought purely for enjoyment and sold purely for profit. Enjoyment and profit very much lie at the center of American capitalism, a center that can be viewed as devoid of any real substance like...a donut. We, Americans buy more for pure want and pleasure more than any other country in the world. Corporations realize this and their adds, products, and stores pervade our society. Donuts are not a necessity nor are they nutritional; yet we, the public continue to consume them. Abstract this down to its basic idea and you have: Temporary pleasures are not a necessity nor are they generally fulfilling; yet we, the people continue to spend money on them. Thus Donuts are in fact allegorical to American capitalism and greed, as evinced by the similarities I have just enumerated.

that's a nice paragraph and all but you definitely meant it as a fat joke.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

http://www.workers.org/2007/world/sicko-0607/

Already aware of these things, did you have a point?

[ImTheSheriff]

Already aware of these things, did you have a point?

that's why they said the thing about cuba, that's all. calm down chief.

[Debut_Fin]

Bowling For Columbine is the only film of his that I enjoy

[RedFive]

that's a nice paragraph and all but you definitely meant it as a fat joke.

Shhhh he totally doesn't know that!

[ImTheSheriff]

Shhhh he totally doesn't know that!

haha, he hasn't replied since that paragraph. good work. you get an A+ and a gold star!

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

haha, he hasn't replied since that paragraph. good work. you get an A+ and a gold star!
Wait...I'm confused. Isn't RedFive the guy who wrote the paragraph, and therefore the guy you just quoted right now? or am I missing something....

[loveisdead]

:appl: @ John.

[narcoleptic953]

Reading this page was enjoyable.

[Praetor]

:appl: @ John.
:bow:

[alltimeGreg]

One of the best threads i've read in awhile, i thank you for that.

[Machu505]

Oh this thread is still pure joy.

[GuitarR0cker1]

I wish I had seen this thread before.

[Thomas Balkcom]

coming to DVD March 9th, 2010

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/capitalism-a-love-story.html