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ghsNICK!
10/06/09, 09:37 PM
Kings & Queens

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Chemical Swirl
10/06/09, 09:38 PM
JARED LETO IS SOOO HAWT.

band sucks.

ghsNICK!
10/06/09, 10:02 PM
JARED LETO IS SOOO HAWT.

band sucks.
But let me guess, you think brand new is good?

This song is a lot better than a lot of shit people like from these small indie bands everyone seems to love on this forum.
I'm definitely not a fan of this band, but this song isn't bad at all.

CalRahhh
10/06/09, 10:59 PM
But let me guess, you think brand new is good?

OH SNAPZ

song's ok.

what_ever
10/06/09, 11:05 PM
not sure why people like these guys. they're the cock rock of "scene" bands. and leto is a tool.

bNz719
10/06/09, 11:18 PM
But let me guess, you think brand new is good?

This song is a lot better than a lot of shit people like from these small indie bands everyone seems to love on this forum.
I'm definitely not a fan of this band, but this song isn't bad at all.

hahaha
I love you.

decent song.
lookin forward to the album.

HometownHero
10/06/09, 11:20 PM
But let me guess, you think brand new is good?

This song is a lot better than a lot of shit people like from these small indie bands everyone seems to love on this forum.
I'm definitely not a fan of this band, but this song isn't bad at all.
Yes the song is bad very bad. Comparing Brand New and 30STM is just stupid

murrich
10/06/09, 11:26 PM
But let me guess, you think brand new is good?

This song is a lot better than a lot of shit people like from these small indie bands everyone seems to love on this forum.
I'm definitely not a fan of this band, but this song isn't bad at all.

You don't like them but you make a thread dedicated to them?
Also, what does Brand New have to do with "small indie" bands?

KevBlu42
10/06/09, 11:28 PM
I usually like 30STM, but this is very vanilla.

bNz719
10/06/09, 11:52 PM
I usually like 30STM, but this is very chocolate.

racist!

Smeee
10/07/09, 12:01 AM
Such a radio-rock song. But hey, I still love it.

ZachMadeMeOdd
10/07/09, 12:16 AM
not sure why people like these guys. they're the cock rock of "scene" bands. and leto is a tool.



Leto is a tool because he's been able to to make a great living for himself as a good actor and decided to start a band that was extremely successful with his own brother? C'mon. Perfect example of a hater.

what_ever
10/07/09, 01:03 AM
Leto is a tool because he's been able to to make a great living for himself as a good actor and decided to start a band that was extremely successful with his own brother? C'mon. Perfect example of a hater.

he's a tool because he has an ego bigger than the planet his mediocre band is named after. his foray into rock-stardom is disingenuous at best.

don't understand why you're sticking up for him, personally...

pth231
10/07/09, 01:08 AM
I dig it. Looking forward to the album.

justinmfi
10/07/09, 03:31 AM
the song is alot better than most of the other stuff they have put out...thats a good thing...hope the whole album is like that!

NateFoundGlory
10/07/09, 05:19 AM
Being a mild fan of previous 30STM and and understander of the hate of Leto, the song's pretty decent.

The Boat
10/07/09, 06:01 AM
I actually really like this song, I never really hated 30stm, but their last album got old fast.

sevinw0rds
10/07/09, 06:07 AM
Song sounds great. I get why Jared's attitude tends to polarize listeners (the one time I met him, he down-right freaked me the fuck out), but his ear for songwriting and powerful melodies is undeniable. The band got off to an iffy start on their first record, but A Beautiful Lie is pretty damn good, and I really dig this song.

Chemical Swirl
10/07/09, 06:23 AM
But let me guess, you think brand new is good?

This song is a lot better than a lot of shit people like from these small indie bands everyone seems to love on this forum.
I'm definitely not a fan of this band, but this song isn't bad at all.

Yes, I like Brand New, because they're way better musicians and song writers than 30STM. Their songs have incredibly deep meanings, and they don't suck.

Chrisj182
10/07/09, 07:50 AM
It's actually pretty good, and the last album wasn't that good.

ghsNICK!
10/07/09, 08:26 AM
Yes, I like Brand New, because they're way better musicians and song writers than 30STM. Their songs have incredibly deep meanings, and they don't suck.
Yeah. I honestly don't have a care for Brand New. The best part of Daisy was the first minute and a half of Vices with that lady singing.
I don't give two shit's if their music is in on this website...they're hype...nothing heroically amazing like everyone portrays.

Chemical Swirl
10/07/09, 08:50 AM
Yeah. I honestly don't have a care for Brand New. The best part of Daisy was the first minute and a half of Vices with that lady singing.
I don't give two shit's if their music is in on this website...they're hype...nothing heroically amazing like everyone portrays.

Well, duh, Daisy isn't their most accessible album. Maybe your baby ears should listen to Your Favorite Weapon (or if you have a more mature taste, then Deja Entendu will do), because it's most like 30STM. But not even, because 30 Seconds To Mars is ass, and those two cds aren't.

And, shit, the worst song on YFW or Deja Entendu is miles above anything that shitty actor/frontman could ever come up with.

_><_
10/07/09, 08:53 AM
Sounds like this song was written by Nickelback or some other shitty post-grunge band.

Chemical Swirl
10/07/09, 08:58 AM
Sounds like this song was written by Nickelback or some other shitty post-grunge band.

Nickleback meets AvA. But I like AvA.

xJesusFreakx
10/07/09, 09:33 AM
As far as stock radio rock songs go, it's not bad. 30STM is the kind of band I don't go out of my way to listen to but can enjoy while they're playing.

I just want to hear the song with Kanye West.

EvilZeppelin
10/07/09, 10:02 AM
Think their should be a poll on Jared's acting career vs. music career.

Chemical Swirl
10/07/09, 10:04 AM
Think their should be a poll on Jared's acting career vs. music career.

Both are bad. No one should vote.

EvilZeppelin
10/07/09, 10:05 AM
Both are bad. No one should vote.

:beerbros:

sargentlgfuad
10/07/09, 10:38 AM
But let me guess, you think brand new is good?

This song is a lot better than a lot of shit people like from these small indie bands everyone seems to love on this forum.
I'm definitely not a fan of this band, but this song isn't bad at all.
holy shit you're dumb. and i'm a fan of 30STM and this song is alrite.

vivatoto56
10/07/09, 10:59 AM
Yeah. I honestly don't have a care for Brand New. The best part of Daisy was the first minute and a half of Vices with that lady singing.
I don't give two shit's if their music is in on this website...they're hype...nothing heroically amazing like everyone portrays.

To me this is almost worse than a troll

Someone doesn't like their music so they bring up a great band like Brand New and shoot them down

Brand New is not even close to being my favorite band but I do respect their music and their talents because frankly they write and produce some of the best music in the current scene

They are "in" for a reason. . .They are hyped for a reason. . .Because they deserve it and write fantastic music

Just because it isn't your choice of music don't make ignorant statements.

Listen to Jesus Christ or You Won't Know (I know they have better songs but in my opinion those are my favorites) and still try to tell me that isn't good music. . .Hate it all you want, but don't say stupid things because you have a different opinion

That being said, I enjoy 30STM new song. I really enjoyed a Beautiful Lie but I knew that album was going to be amazing before i got it because The Kill and Attack were really powerful and had some great screaming throughout

I probably won't hold my breath waiting for this album though, because they sound like they are trying to be something they are not. I honestly miss the screams and intensity.

Well the real reason I like them is for their music videos. Those are genius. So I'll wait for the video to make my decision

ThisIsNotDan
10/07/09, 11:09 AM
As far as stock radio rock songs go, it's not bad. 30STM is the kind of band I don't go out of my way to listen to but can enjoy while they're playing.

I just want to hear the song with Kanye West.

my thoughts, their old singles aren't bad but this song kinda sucks

bladerdude360
10/07/09, 11:10 AM
No gracias. Also, saying that you don't like (or aren't trying to defend) a band in the thread that you made specifically about that band's song is dumb.

White
10/07/09, 11:47 AM
Song sounds great. I get why Jared's attitude tends to polarize listeners (the one time I met him, he down-right freaked me the fuck out), but his ear for songwriting and powerful melodies is undeniable. The band got off to an iffy start on their first record, but A Beautiful Lie is pretty damn good, and I really dig this song.

COOOOOOOME break me dOOOOOOWWWWWn. Bury me, bury me. I am finished with yOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

/pretty damn good alright.

The S/T kills and sodomizes the corpse of ABL.

Matt Cooper
10/07/09, 12:08 PM
ABL sold millions of records world wide so someone apparently enjoys them (unless thats just leto buying his own album in different cities)

Reguardless of if anyone likes or hates them I want the album to do decently to finish off their contract with Virgin

GuitarGuy
10/07/09, 12:10 PM
I was a big fan of these guys before 'Kings and Queens' came out, but now that I've heard it....wow. This song blows away everything else they've done and easily stands as their best single to date! I'm really hoping that the album will follow suit!

glassjaw777
10/07/09, 12:15 PM
i like it.

anthonydarko
10/07/09, 12:31 PM
Honestly I haven't given a shit about this band in 3 years and that song didn't change that stance.

ghsNICK!
10/07/09, 12:51 PM
But I like AvA.
At least we agree on something.
I'm looking forward to Love.

Chemical Swirl
10/07/09, 01:39 PM
At least we agree on something.
I'm looking forward to Love.

Eh, I'm not really. We Don't Need To Whisper is a great album, but iEmpire didn't do it for me now.

(see what I did there?)

Stage Combat
10/07/09, 01:43 PM
Band is lame.

NikFinn
10/07/09, 02:00 PM
Eh, I'm not really. We Don't Need To Whisper is a great album, but iEmpire didn't do it for me now.

(see what I did there?)
You're right again.

sevinw0rds
10/07/09, 02:58 PM
COOOOOOOME break me dOOOOOOWWWWWn. Bury me, bury me. I am finished with yOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

/pretty damn good alright.

The S/T kills and sodomizes the corpse of ABL.

Yeah, I don't recall mentioning his lyrics being anything to write home about, but there's a lot of very strong melodies on that record. The first one has its share of fantastic moments as well, particularly "Oblivion" and "Echelon", but it seemed to meander a bit too much for my taste.

Smeee
10/07/09, 05:01 PM
I've pretty much fallen in love with this song. Not really sure why. I wasn't sure about it at first, but I've listened to it several times today (and yesterday) and it's just clicked with me.

It's not original, it's not new. Yet I love it :shrug:.

Hagysaurus Rex
10/07/09, 06:14 PM
I'm digging it a lot. It sounds better than anything from their last album. I loved their self-titled, but A Beautiful Lie was the only album I bought at midnight the day it came out and promptly returned it when they opened the next day I was that disappointed. Here's hoping the new album is as focused/thematic/well-written as their self titled. That album was like a soundtrack to a movie that didn't exist yet and was pure gold.

Oh, and yeah Leto's still an ass.

Hagysaurus Rex
10/07/09, 06:17 PM
To me this is almost worse than a troll

Someone doesn't like their music so they bring up a great band like Brand New and shoot them down

Brand New is not even close to being my favorite band but I do respect their music and their talents because frankly they write and produce some of the best music in the current scene

They are "in" for a reason. . .They are hyped for a reason. . .Because they deserve it and write fantastic music

Just because it isn't your choice of music don't make ignorant statements.

Listen to Jesus Christ or You Won't Know (I know they have better songs but in my opinion those are my favorites) and still try to tell me that isn't good music. . .Hate it all you want, but don't say stupid things because you have a different opinion

That being said, I enjoy 30STM new song. I really enjoyed a Beautiful Lie but I knew that album was going to be amazing before i got it because The Kill and Attack were really powerful and had some great screaming throughout

I probably won't hold my breath waiting for this album though, because they sound like they are trying to be something they are not. I honestly miss the screams and intensity.

Well the real reason I like them is for their music videos. Those are genius. So I'll wait for the video to make my decision

Best post all day.

the1
10/08/09, 05:40 AM
I don't think people realize that Leto always intended to be a musician- never an actor.

30STM put 10x more effort in everything than so many bands. Stop riding Jesses cock- he doesn't even give you lot lyrics.

SpyKi
10/08/09, 06:05 AM
I quite like it. I don't really understand why this band gets so much hate.

MorningStar10
10/08/09, 09:18 AM
i like the song, its radio-rock but a lot smarter than the Nicklebacks of this world.
On the subject of Leto, he may have a big ego but he does really care about his fans, and in that case is a genuine nice guy, i have read many stories about him coming out after gigs to meet people and talk to them, and with a band of their status (semi-big) this is not needed, so i have always respected him for this.

ZachMadeMeOdd
10/09/09, 02:54 PM
he's a tool because he has an ego bigger than the planet his mediocre band is named after. his foray into rock-stardom is disingenuous at best.

don't understand why you're sticking up for him, personally...



Because everything said about this guy basically sounds like everything that is said about Kanye. And both of them have made it very successfully in what they're trying to do. Whatever though, not everyone likes everybody. Where there are fans there are haters no matter what.

what_ever
10/09/09, 04:16 PM
Because everything said about this guy basically sounds like everything that is said about Kanye. And both of them have made it very successfully in what they're trying to do. Whatever though, not everyone likes everybody. Where there are fans there are haters no matter what.

randomly comparing him to Kanye doesn't make Jared Leto's music any less shitty.

ZachMadeMeOdd
10/10/09, 01:08 AM
randomly comparing him to Kanye doesn't make Jared Leto's music any less shitty.

Never said his music was great. but like fall out boy, they play horrendous music but still a lot of people like them. they made it as a band. period.

Chemical Swirl
10/10/09, 07:48 AM
Because everything said about this guy basically sounds like everything that is said about Kanye. And both of them have made it very successfully in what they're trying to do. Whatever though, not everyone likes everybody. Where there are fans there are haters no matter what.

Yes, but, Kanye is a lyrical wordsmith, yo. If anything, Leto's a gayfish.

what_ever
10/10/09, 03:22 PM
Never said his music was great. but like fall out boy, they play horrendous music but still a lot of people like them. they made it as a band. period.

fame ≠ talent.

This is essential for you to understand if you want to have any opinions on popular music. and why mention somebody random again? we're talking about Leto and the shitty music his band makes.

bNz719
10/10/09, 03:53 PM
fame ≠ talent.

This is essential for you to understand if you want to have any opinions on popular music. and why mention somebody random again? we're talking about Leto and the shitty music his band makes.

yes but like (insert random band here), fall out boy makes shitty music. lol :]

GuitarR0cker1
10/10/09, 03:55 PM
This is definitely better than their old stuff. It has a "big" sound that other cock rock bands don't have. There's nothing original about it though.

LamarVannoy
10/10/09, 06:57 PM
Wow. This is the most generic radio rock song I've ever heard. Then again, I didnt expect anything more from this shitty band.

karadoll
10/10/09, 07:55 PM
Meh.

echo.park
10/11/09, 03:01 AM
I'm not a fan, but their last record was good.

Jared Leto's voice is great.

love_american_style
10/11/09, 03:12 AM
shitty band is shitty.

Jamekae
10/11/09, 05:12 AM
I think the song was made that much better with the repeated zooming in. Really gave definition to the music.

the outsider
10/11/09, 07:07 AM
it seems kinda like jared and his brother spent their entire lives coming up with ideas for songs... put their best stuff on their first record... then after that just did a bunch of mediocre crap since they were out of ideas.

well.

mediocre crap and bjork covers.