Marijuana effects

[WakeUpBlondie]

Attn: (semi) regular marijuana users:

There's such a stigma to us users (lay around eating cake while living in our mom's basement), but have you noticed any effects? Obviously the government's propaganda, if you will, towards it makes you "stupid" etc.

Basically I'm at a crossroads of smoking once a month to once a week.

[pshh]

Ok first of all weed is something that you have to revolve your life around, you can't have weed revolve around your life. Although If your you come from a group of friends who don't burn and you do, prepare to be ridiculed and feel ostracized. That's what happened to me at least, they'll assume you're high all the time and just want to smoke weed all day.

Effects I've noticed are: food tastes 100x better, music sounds 10000x better, and sex feels 100000000000x better. oh but the sucky stuff is, I can't run a mile under 6 minutes anymore, I definitely have to try harder to remember short term stuff.

[nerdvglc]

i hate to be this guy, but search function. really.

[Plus155]

i hate to be this guy, but search function. really.

Cut the stoner a break

[denissuxx]

Weed makes you like weed.

[MyNameIsRoss]

It doesn't make you stupid. Cannabinoids are great for you, some believe them to be cancer fighters. The smoke is non-toxic unlike tobacco smoke, so you don't do any permanent damage to your lungs, and obviously it doesn't cause cancer.

The only negative effect is getting caught with it..

[.invisible ink.]

It doesn't make you stupid. Cannabinoids are great for you, some believe them to be cancer fighters. The smoke is non-toxic unlike tobacco smoke, so you don't do any permanent damage to your lungs, and obviously it doesn't cause cancer.

The only negative effect is getting caught with it..

please show me the study in which you received this information. seriously, i am very interested in reading it.

i smoke weed and also know that most studies that have been performed on marijuana have been extremely sub-par due to this country's ridiculous legal stance. From what I understand, there is not enough data out there to be able to prove whether smoking marijuana causes damage as it does when you smoke tobacco. Common sense would tell you it would, especially since most people smoke it unfiltered in any way.

anyway, the bullshit regarding people turning into losers from smoking weed is just propaganda. informally i would say that probably around 60-70% of the professionals I have worked with or met over my lifetime have smoked weed and continue to do so while leading productive lives (being responsible, home-owning, tax-paying, working white collar citizens).

Like anything, if you use it responsibly and don't let it become your main focus in life, you can do just fine without it causing problems for you.

[Jennurna Gray]

Attn: (semi) regular marijuana users:
There's such a stigma to us users (lay around eating cake while living in our mom's basement), but have you noticed any effects? Obviously the government's propaganda, if you will, towards it makes you "stupid" etc.
Basically I'm at a crossroads of smoking once a month to once a week.
agreed. i think you're overanalyzing it. it's really not a big deal. live your life, and whne you get some, smoke it, but don't let your life revolve around it and you'll be okay.

[Jennurna Gray]

LEGALIZE!

[MyNameIsRoss]

please show me the study in which you received this information. seriously, i am very interested in reading it.

i smoke weed and also know that most studies that have been performed on marijuana have been extremely sub-par due to this country's ridiculous legal stance. From what I understand, there is not enough data out there to be able to prove whether smoking marijuana causes damage as it does when you smoke tobacco. Common sense would tell you it would, especially since most people smoke it unfiltered in any way.

anyway, the bullshit regarding people turning into losers from smoking weed is just propaganda. informally i would say that probably around 60-70% of the professionals I have worked with or met over my lifetime have smoked weed and continue to do so while leading productive lives (being responsible, home-owning, tax-paying, working white collar citizens).

Like anything, if you use it responsibly and don't let it become your main focus in life, you can do just fine without it causing problems for you.

google could help, but this guy knows quite a bit about the subject:

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[.invisible ink.]

google could help, but this guy knows quite a bit about the subject:

you're the one who spouted "facts" therefore I shouldn't have to google to back up your statements. just sayin'...

btw, that dude is a PhD, not a MD. once again, I'd love to see the studies he's referencing. I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm saying I want proof. I don't think that's too much to ask when people make claims.

[nonamesleft]

Weed makes me run fast. And tired, I guess?

[emmafortomorrow]

please show me the study in which you received this information. seriously, i am very interested in reading it.

i smoke weed and also know that most studies that have been performed on marijuana have been extremely sub-par due to this country's ridiculous legal stance. From what I understand, there is not enough data out there to be able to prove whether smoking marijuana causes damage as it does when you smoke tobacco. Common sense would tell you it would, especially since most people smoke it unfiltered in any way.

anyway, the bullshit regarding people turning into losers from smoking weed is just propaganda. informally i would say that probably around 60-70% of the professionals I have worked with or met over my lifetime have smoked weed and continue to do so while leading productive lives (being responsible, home-owning, tax-paying, working white collar citizens).

Like anything, if you use it responsibly and don't let it become your main focus in life, you can do just fine without it causing problems for you.

Here's a fact: There have been deaths related to tobacco & cigarettes, there have never been reported deaths related to marijuana. However smoking anything isn't good for your lungs.

[.invisible ink.]

Here's a fact: There have been deaths related to tobacco & cigarettes, there have never been reported deaths related to marijuana. However smoking anything isn't good for your lungs.

i have heard that as well, although my point wasn't that i needed unfounded facts, i wanted proof, something you didn't provide either.

[Chemical Swirl]

One time, I smoked to much. I felt like I was gonna vomit. So, to make the feeling end, I ate a bowl of Cookie Crisp. God damn, it was so delicious. And then, I went to go fall asleep. So, I slipped into my bed, and I swear to God, it felt as if I melted into the fibers of the mattress. Amazing.

[kbi the crowing]

agreed. i think you're overanalyzing it. it's really not a big deal. live your life, and whne you get some, smoke it, but don't let your life revolve around it and you'll be okay.

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LEGALIZE!

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[tidesdontexist]

The two downfalls with weed is that it dries up your wallet and of course the risk of getting caught with it.

I'm usually very paranoid about carrying it with me so the kinda negates the 2nd downfall however with my financial situation, it sucks to like it so much and spend money on it pretty much every other day or so.

The thing I've noticed is that it certainly isn't addicting in a physical sense however the high is extremely addicting in a mental sense. You learn to like it so much that you crave it and sometimes it's hard to shake.

[fedhed7]

Just don't smoke before you have important shit to do. I did that last week and kind of fucked me. That was really the only time I ever regret blazing.

[yellowhouse]

It doesn't make you stupid. Cannabinoids are great for you, some believe them to be cancer fighters. The smoke is non-toxic unlike tobacco smoke, so you don't do any permanent damage to your lungs, and obviously it doesn't cause cancer.

The only negative effect is getting caught with it..

Well, the smoke is actually still very bad for you because even though it might not be as bad as cigarette smoke, youre still burning plant matter and inhaling it. That=tons of tar in your lungs still, which=not good (obviously).

Nothing wrong with blowing down at all, but just make sure you can balance it with all of the other shit in your life.

[thiswokendream]

Just don't smoke before you have important shit to do. I did that last week and kind of fucked me. That was really the only time I ever regret blazing.

Advice of the century. Take note smokers.

[mattmatumbo]

Weed makes me run fast. And tired, I guess?

Opposite for me, makes me not want to run, period.

[patpratt]

I smoke a lot of weed. As long as you don't let it control your life, you'll be fine.

As for medical effects, I'm not sure. I mean, I have a shitty short term memory now. But it really does make everything better.

[patpratt]

Advice of the century. Take note smokers.

Not always true. I perform better at just about anything when stoned.

[chassmariee]

I hate posting when I'm high, and I'm high right now.

[nonamesleft]

Opposite for me, makes me not want to run, period.

Haha, weird. I fucking love running.

Also, your avatar is horrible.

[jmirand1]

Ok first of all weed is something that you have to revolve your life around, you can't have weed revolve around your life. Although If your you come from a group of friends who don't burn and you do, prepare to be ridiculed and feel ostracized. That's what happened to me at least, they'll assume you're high all the time and just want to smoke weed all day.

Effects I've noticed are: food tastes 100x better, music sounds 10000x better, and sex feels 100000000000x better. oh but the sucky stuff is, I can't run a mile under 6 minutes anymore, I definitely have to try harder to remember short term stuff.

This post is awesome, and right on.

[SincerelyMe]

As long as it doesn't control your life, it's fine. It's all propaganda.

And for the people who are saying that the smoke isn't harmful: Of course it is. Breathing in smoke (of any kind) is bad for you. If you light a chair on fire and breathe in the smoke from that, it's bad for you. Weed may not be as harmful as cigarettes, but it's still not healthy.

[hevs89]

Weed and cannabis are such great mother nature gifts, smoking weed doesnt make you stupid unless you're stupid yourself, hemp can be used as fabrics and other type of supplies. The only negative effect of weed is... sorry i can't think about one right now :)

[JawsTheme182]

I just started smoking semi-regularly and I have to say everything is much more enjoyable when high. Less stress, food tastes better, I can focus on one thing much better than I used to, and I still have the ability to say no when I know I've got something else I should be doing. Not addicting, can't overdose... the only downfall is a girl I was seeing thinks it's immature. She wore a Twilight necklace. Weed wins.

[mattmatumbo]

Haha, weird. I fucking love running.

Also, your avatar is horrible.

I love running too, but not during or after being stoned. What's wrong with Ribery?!?!?!

[1mastalker]

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Best documentary EVAR!!!!

Now if everyone will excuse me....I have a bowl I've been neglecting for quite some time.

[jeremypeele]

The only way you get caught with marijuana is being stupid enough to drive around with it or keep it on your possession. Keep your weed at home! Your home never gets pulled over by a cop. And don't be sharing the shit either. I love watching Cops and when they search peoples cars it just so happens that the illegal substances they find in the car, doesn't belong to them.

[nonamesleft]

I love running too, but not during or after being stoned. What's wrong with Ribery?!?!?!

That's the only time I love running.

And I'm just chirping you 'cause I'm a Chelsea fan.

[MyNameIsRoss]

you're the one who spouted "facts" therefore I shouldn't have to google to back up your statements. just sayin'...

btw, that dude is a PhD, not a MD. once again, I'd love to see the studies he's referencing. I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm saying I want proof. I don't think that's too much to ask when people make claims.

There is limited studies of this stuff because of the illegality..

It's not my job to look shit up for you, never said it was facts..

Do some research yourself, if you are that interested.

[.invisible ink.]

There is limited studies of this stuff because of the illegality..

It's not my job to look shit up for you, never said it was facts..

Do some research yourself, if you are that interested.

haha, you just reiterated my point regarding the limited studies. i have done my own research. the reason i was asking for you to back it up was because you (and others in this thread) made statements like they were facts without having any proof.

It doesn't make you stupid. Cannabinoids are great for you, some believe them to be cancer fighters. The smoke is non-toxic unlike tobacco smoke, so you don't do any permanent damage to your lungs, and obviously it doesn't cause cancer.


um, yeah you did.

Posting a video of some dude stating things does not make it so.

anyway, i was really just proving a point. i am on your side, believe it or not. i truly *hope* what you said is accurate. i am all for marijuana legalization and the possibility for actual studies to be performed proving or disproving its benefits.

[Analog Rebellion]

It doesn't make you stupid. Cannabinoids are great for you, some believe them to be cancer fighters. The smoke is non-toxic unlike tobacco smoke, so you don't do any permanent damage to your lungs, and obviously it doesn't cause cancer.

The only negative effect is getting caught with it..
Inhaling burning plant matter is bad for your lungs. That is a fact.

Smoking out of a vaporizer or bong/water pipe, however, is much healthier.

As a non smoker, I'm 100% for the legalization of marijuana. I was actually thinking about starting an organization called "Non Smokers for Marijuana Reform" or "Marijuana Legalization" or something like that, but I don't really have time. I wish someone else would do it, because there are a lot of non stoners in the world that are sick of their tax dollars being wasted on bullshit.

[Analog Rebellion]

um, yeah you did.

Posting a video of some dude stating things does not make it so.

anyway, i was really just proving a point. i am on your side, believe it or not. i truly *hope* what you said is accurate. i am all for marijuana legalization and the possibility for actual studies to be performed proving or disproving its benefits.

I think it's funny that he's the one making outrageous claim yet he wants you to prove his outrageous claims. :hitself:

[xmicxcorex]

The only downside to weed, in my experience, is that it can (not always, but can) lead to use and/or severe abuse of other illegal substances. I, myself, will be 7 years clean this coming April.
I don't really have anything against it, it just turned out after about 8 months of smoking that it just wasn't something I was that into.

[xmicxcorex]

Inhaling burning plant matter is bad for your lungs. That is a fact.

Smoking out of a vaporizer or bong/water pipe, however, is much healthier.

As a non smoker, I'm 100% for the legalization of marijuana. I was actually thinking about starting an organization called "Non Smokers for Marijuana Reform" or "Marijuana Legalization" or something like that, but I don't really have time. I wish someone else would do it, because there are a lot of non stoners in the world that are sick of their tax dollars being wasted on bullshit.


Dan, this is why I appreciate you being around, I had honestly never thought of it that way....hmmm...

[ScarsThatSmile]

One time, I smoked to much.


Theres no such thing as smoking to much weed. I smoke every single day of my life ever since i was in 7th grade and the only way its effected me is that i used to play hockey everyday and since pot came into my life ive been more lazier and less wanting to do the things that i want too because all i wanted to do is get high (not that thats a problem) , i would just love to see what my life would be like if i didnt smoke all these years lol


LEGALIZE IT!!!!

[Chemical Swirl]

Theres no such thing as smoking to much weed.

Yeah, there is. It's the difference from being high to being absolutely stoned.

[Analog Rebellion]

Theres no such thing as smoking to much weed. I smoke every single day of my life ever since i was in 7th grade and the only way its effected me is that i used to play hockey everyday and since pot came into my life ive been more lazier and less wanting to do the things that i want too because all i wanted to do is get high (not that thats a problem) , i would just love to see what my life would be like if i didnt smoke all these years lol


LEGALIZE IT!!!!
Perhaps smoking weed every day for 6 years is also the reason you say things like "more lazier".

If all you do is sit around and smoke weed, and you want to do more things, quit smoking for a while? It shouldn't be that hard, and if it is that hard, then it's become a problem. I stopped smoking weed and used all my extra time to start a band. Now, that's what I do for a living. I definitely wouldn't be doing this if I still smoked.

[ilikesound93]

I just started smoking semi-regularly and I have to say everything is much more enjoyable when high. Less stress, food tastes better, I can focus on one thing much better than I used to, and I still have the ability to say no when I know I've got something else I should be doing. Not addicting, can't overdose... the only downfall is a girl I was seeing thinks it's immature. She wore a Twilight necklace. Weed wins.

I lol'd.

[Codi23]

One time, I smoked to much. I felt like I was gonna vomit. So, to make the feeling end, I ate a bowl of Cookie Crisp. God damn, it was so delicious. And then, I went to go fall asleep. So, I slipped into my bed, and I swear to God, it felt as if I melted into the fibers of the mattress. Amazing.
That's called being high hahaha :-d.

[AlkalineAshes]

I love running high, or sometimes a little after I smoke then I feel the high come back a bit. Stoners being lazy is a stupid myth. everyone has different interests . I run around 20-30 miles a week and smoke multiple times a day so there ya go. THC is actually an expectorant, meaning it brings phlem and particles out out of the lungs. Im sure smoking weed is still damaging but it is intriguing they've yet to find a legitimate study tying cannabis smoke to lung cancer. Vaporizing basically takes any health risk away at all. I also read a study showing cannabis protected alcoholics brains, reducing damage in almost all areas so theres ups and downs.

[nerdvglc]

Cut the stoner a break
i know, and i understand what the forum's about, which is why i think it should be in the official thread even more. he's got questions; cool. but not all stoners are messed up or whatever. i'm doing better than i have in years this semester, and i've been going through a little more than a half oz of dro every week.

[Poochemist]

Maybe I can help out a little bit on the research end regarding marijuana and cancer:

It's really hard to monitor association between marijuana use and cancer risk for a few reasons. All methods must rely on questionnaires, subject recall, and subject honesty about using a drug that is illegal. Epidemiological studies are also subject to different confounders in participants, like alcohol and cigarette use. This means you can't really be sure what is causing certain effects because of all of the other drugs or lifestyle choices that may have an effect.

That being said, there have been studies on the chemicals found in marijuana, and the some of the same carcinogens found in tobacco smoke are found in marijuana, including vinyl chlorides, phenols, nitrosamines, and reactive oxygen species. Marijuana has carcinogenic tar levels (from benzo pyrene) at a higher concentration than in tobacco (Hoffman et al., 1975). Smoking weed may involve inhalation of approximately 3x the amount of tar and retention of one third more of the inhaled tar in the respiratory tract (Wu et al, 1988). While these studies are relatively old, I think they still hold weight.

Of course, marijuana is used in therapeutic situations as well, particularly with cancer and MS patients. It's mainly used for appetite stimulation and to help reduce incidence of vomiting or sickness during cancer therapy. It is apparently also used to inhibit the growth of further tumors (Guzman, 2003).

The above information was found in a literature review by Hashibe, Straif, Tashkin, Morgenstern, Greenland and Zhang (2005). While I couldn't find an html version online, PM me and I'd be happy to email you a pdf of it.

This article abstract (http://www.springerlink.com/content/l221477720240752/), published in 1997, shows that marijuana use was not associated with cigarette-smoking cancers, but site-specific cancers, like of the cervix and prostate, may develop. Kind of a strange methodology used, though.

[v719789]

The only reason I don't smoke every day is that I tend to eat more and exercise less. Oh, and I'd get a misdemeanor if caught, but this won't be a problem anymore once it's legalized in my area. God, I can't wait for 2010.

[billyboatkid]

I miss smoking... :(

[neo506]

"That's the side effects: Hungry, Happy, Sleepy"

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[pshh]

Weed doesn't cause cancer, but smoking anything is really bad for your lungs, if you think about all the people with cancer from smoking those people smoke 1 or more packs a day for a numerous amount of years. You smoke weed maybe one to three times a day depending on the pot head you are, but take account of what you smoke out of. I like blunts, so yes they are tobacco flavored blunts, but there are about 2 or 3 more heads on it, so we each smoke 1/3rd or 1/4th of a tobacco drug, probably even less than a cigarette.

But one fact that is 100% true, marijuana tar is 50% worse than cigarette tar. So yes that will fuck your lungs up, just try it yourself, next time you inhale, hold a piece of tissue straight infront of your mouth, exhale and look at the brown residue that accumulates. That's tar.

But hey, fuck that weed scientist study shit. Weed is awesome, I love it right now, it enhances your life on new levels and I don't feel any addiction toward it, I only smoke on weekends now after this summer I smoked every single day and I'm doing fine, you just have to keep the priorities in your life above weed and find that as something more recreational and something else. Just know that weed isn't the most important thing, as long as you got time management skills, live it up and don't get too carried away.

[GuitarR0cker1]

Ok first of all weed is something that you have to revolve your life around, you can't have weed revolve around your life. Although If your you come from a group of friends who don't burn and you do, prepare to be ridiculed and feel ostracized. That's what happened to me at least, they'll assume you're high all the time and just want to smoke weed all day.

Effects I've noticed are: food tastes 100x better, music sounds 10000x better, and sex feels 100000000000x better. oh but the sucky stuff is, I can't run a mile under 6 minutes anymore, I definitely have to try harder to remember short term stuff.
Yep, my friends constantly give me shit about smoking pot.

[zion the lion]

I know way to many dumb stoners to think that smoking it all day every day isnt going to make you just another worthless sack of shit wasting space on my damn couch. Maybe people didnt make such dumb decisions while high, I would be nicer about it.

I cant stand it, but for the love of god, someone legalize it already so I dont have to hear as much shit about it.

[Heroin Robot]

I know way to many dumb stoners to think that smoking it all day every day isnt going to make you just another worthless sack of shit wasting space on my damn couch. Maybe people didnt make such dumb decisions while high, I would be nicer about it.

I cant stand it, but for the love of god, someone legalize it already so I dont have to hear as much shit about it.

Dumb decisions while high? I'm guessing your friends are dumb to begin with, then

[MyNameIsRoss]

Inhaling burning plant matter is bad for your lungs. That is a fact.

Smoking out of a vaporizer or bong/water pipe, however, is much healthier.

As a non smoker, I'm 100% for the legalization of marijuana. I was actually thinking about starting an organization called "Non Smokers for Marijuana Reform" or "Marijuana Legalization" or something like that, but I don't really have time. I wish someone else would do it, because there are a lot of non stoners in the world that are sick of their tax dollars being wasted on bullshit.


Of course it isn't good for you, but it can't be compared to smoking tobacco, because the compounds of pot smoke are very unlike the compounds of tobacco smoke. One plant causes cancer and one doesn't. And the deadly one is sold in every store in America. That's not a fucking accident haha.

And I don't smoke that much anymore either because I started distance running a few months ago. I used to burn one every morning and every night though, and my memory is great and I am a fully functional member of society haha.

Cigs were 10,000,000,000X harder to give up.

[MyNameIsRoss]

haha, you just reiterated my point regarding the limited studies. i have done my own research. the reason i was asking for you to back it up was because you (and others in this thread) made statements like they were facts without having any proof.



um, yeah you did.

Posting a video of some dude stating things does not make it so.

anyway, i was really just proving a point. i am on your side, believe it or not. i truly *hope* what you said is accurate. i am all for marijuana legalization and the possibility for actual studies to be performed proving or disproving its benefits.

Well I would argue I was just stating my opinion. But let's just end it here, we are on the same side haha.

[timb89]

Ok first of all weed is something that you have to revolve your life around, you can't have weed revolve around your life. Although If your you come from a group of friends who don't burn and you do, prepare to be ridiculed and feel ostracized. That's what happened to me at least, they'll assume you're high all the time and just want to smoke weed all day.

Effects I've noticed are: food tastes 100x better, music sounds 10000x better, and sex feels 100000000000x better. oh but the sucky stuff is, I can't run a mile under 6 minutes anymore, I definitely have to try harder to remember short term stuff.

i would say it has definitely made it harder to remember short term stuff. then again maybe im imagining it.

[pshh]

Here's one rule of advice, if you don't have any money you shouldn't be smoking weed, but if you have nice/generous friends willing to help a brotha/sister out that's good, but don't expect the free ride to last long, weed is a VERY economic thing people are selfish about, even amongst your group of friends.

[zion the lion]

Dumb decisions while high? I'm guessing your friends are dumb to begin with, then

Well when someone decides they're going to smoke pot (someone who isnt my friend) while high and runs a red light and ends up killing my cousin, I'm going to assume that's a dumb decision because of the pot, regardless of whether or not they were dumb in the first place.

[1mastalker]

One time, I smoked to much. I felt like I was gonna vomit. So, to make the feeling end, I ate a bowl of Cookie Crisp. God damn, it was so delicious. And then, I went to go fall asleep. So, I slipped into my bed, and I swear to God, it felt as if I melted into the fibers of the mattress. Amazing.
When I read that the first thing I thought of is Doug Benson's stand up from Super High Me

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[lauren1234]

I've smoked a few times and it felt good and all but I definitely wouldn't do it every day. The one thing I remember is coming home and eating some pop tarts. Pop tarts have never tasted better than they did that one time.

[BulleTheory]

theres nothing wrong with smoking a nice bowl after your day is complete.

[BulleTheory]

I just started smoking semi-regularly and I have to say everything is much more enjoyable when high. Less stress, food tastes better, I can focus on one thing much better than I used to, and I still have the ability to say no when I know I've got something else I should be doing. Not addicting, can't overdose... the only downfall is a girl I was seeing thinks it's immature. She wore a Twilight necklace. Weed wins.
winner....dont you hate people like that?

[nonamesleft]

I'm pretty sure the song "High as Fuck" describes me pretty well when it comes to being stoned.

[Heroin Robot]

Well when someone decides they're going to smoke pot (someone who isnt my friend) while high and runs a red light and ends up killing my cousin, I'm going to assume that's a dumb decision because of the pot, regardless of whether or not they were dumb in the first place.


That's shitty and I'm sorry.


I was just meaning to say that personally I make good decisions and even drive perfectly while high on weed.

[dsd is too high]

honestly dude it's a completely different lifestyle and it's amazing.

but once or twice every now and then is def just gonna lead to daily.

it happens, nothing wrong with that at all.

[mattmatumbo]

That's the only time I love running.

And I'm just chirping you 'cause I'm a Chelsea fan.

Aww come on now, everyone loves a frenchy.

USA clinched berth, that means, "pack it up and smoke it."

[bung]

Marijuana helps some, hurts others (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=marijuana-hurts-some-helps-others&print=true)

[rodericknj]

weed made my penis grow 10 feet.
and when my grandma smoked it, hers did, too.

[aoftbsten]

I'm really just not a huge fan of weed, every time I smoke it it just makes me really tired.

[Codi23]

Marijuana helps some, hurts others (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=marijuana-hurts-some-helps-others&print=true)
That was a really well written article; if anyone's interested in reading a long one (but also good one) regarding marijuana's history and future, check this out:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/11/magazines/fortune/medical_marijuana_legalizing.fortun e/?postversion=2009091116

I found it interesting way back when I read it, it's just long haha.

[softhands]

I usually get a case of the awesome.

[bung]

That was a really well written article; if anyone's interested in reading a long one (but also good one) regarding marijuana's history and future, check this out:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/11/magazines/fortune/medical_marijuana_legalizing.fortun e/?postversion=2009091116

I found it interesting way back when I read it, it's just long haha.

Indeed it is. We have to do reports on various articles related to things we're studying in my biological psychology class, and I'm doing mine on that article right now. :-)

[AMackChuck]

I don't smoke pot and it doesn't bother me. I'm the guy that fucks with my friends when they are high. It's hilarious.

[bung]

I don't smoke pot and it doesn't bother me. I'm the guy that fucks with my friends when they are high. It's hilarious.

Hilarious to you--it's just annoying and irritating to us.

[AlkalineAshes]

Hilarious to you--it's just annoying and irritating to us.
amen:nono:

[AMackChuck]

Hilarious to you--it's just annoying and irritating to us.

Haha neither one of those kids smokes pot anymore. I'm a cleaner.

[zion the lion]

That's shitty and I'm sorry.


I was just meaning to say that personally I make good decisions and even drive perfectly while high on weed.

It's been 2 years and his mom is still devastated. My mom drives perfectly while drunk as a skunk, do you think that makes it any better? Oh no, that means she makes all of her good decisions while drunk. The fact that you say you make good decisions while high and then go on to say that you drive while high means that you dont make good decisions at all.

Maybe next time you drive "perfectly" and high hopefully you'll kill someone young, and hopefully you'll get the privilege of seeing every single second of agony that the parents will have to suffer for the rest of their lives.

You are a goddamn idiot, and I hope you know that you're only furthering the "stereotype" that people who smoke pot are dumb, worthless, selfish, pieces of shit who really do need to be strapped into a car and driven right into the ocean, so that the rest of us can go on being productive members of society. People like you are fucking pathetic.

[bung]

It's been 2 years and his mom is still devastated. My mom drives perfectly while drunk as a skunk, do you think that makes it any better? Oh no, that means she makes all of her good decisions while drunk. The fact that you say you make good decisions while high and then go on to say that you drive while high means that you dont make good decisions at all.

Maybe next time you drive "perfectly" and high hopefully you'll kill someone young, and hopefully you'll get the privilege of seeing every single second of agony that the parents will have to suffer for the rest of their lives.

Ever talk on a cell phone while driving? I bet you've never, ever done that. It increases the likelihood of an accident more so than being high on marijuana or having a BAC of .08 does.

[zion the lion]

Ever talk on a cell phone while driving? I bet you've never, ever done that. It increases the likelihood of an accident more so than being high on marijuana or having a BAC of .08 does.

I actually never have talked on a cell phone while driving. Ever. And hey, if I ever were to, at least I could hang up and focus which isnt as easy for someone who's high.

[bung]

I actually never have talked on a cell phone while driving. Ever. And hey, if I ever were to, at least I could hang up and focus which isnt as easy for someone who's high.

I have a hard time believing that. Either way, I bet you've driven while tired. Same story.

Your point about focus is pretty much irrelevant, because unless a person is driving in an especially confusing area they don't know, they are not going to end a conversation by saying, "Oh, I gotta go since I need to focus on the road." It just doesn't happen, because the person knows the roads so they feel confident. This point is only reinforced by the fact that the vast, vast majority of car accidents occur within 5 - 10 miles of home.

[zion the lion]

I have a hard time believing that. Either way, I bet you've driven while tired. Same story.

Your point about focus is pretty much irrelevant, because unless a person is driving in an especially confusing area they don't know, they are not going to end a conversation by saying, "Oh, I gotta go since I need to focus on the road." It just doesn't happen, because the person knows the roads so they feel confident. This point is only reinforced by the fact that the vast, vast majority of car accidents occur within 5 - 10 miles of home.

I actually dont like talking on the phone, so I dont...ever. And no, I've never driven while tired.

And what does this have to do with driving high, and the greatness that comes from that choice?

[bung]

And no, I've never driven while tired.

Almost certainly a blatant lie we have here.

And what does this have to do with driving high, and the greatness that comes from that choice?

The point is that all the people you know that have ever driven while talking on a cell phone, or have driven while tired, are all at greater fault than the person who killed your cousin. It's likely you fall into this group too, though your pride won't allow you to admit it. Next time you see any of those people, I hope you're as much of a condescending, judgmental clown as you are here.

[zion the lion]

Almost certainly a blatant lie we have here.



The point is that all the people you know that have ever driven while talking on a cell phone, or have driven while tired, are all at greater fault than the person who killed your cousin. It's likely you fall into this group too, though your pride won't allow you to admit it. Next time you see any of those people, I hope you're as much of a condescending, judgmental clown as you are here.

I hate to burst your little comparison bubble, but no I have never driven anything while tired. Too bad.

You cant honestly be serious, the distractions from a phone are way less than the distractions from someone who is under the influence of something. And no, my pride has nothing to do with the answers I've provided to your assumptions about what I do when I drive.

[bung]

But one fact that is 100% true, marijuana tar is 50% worse than cigarette tar. So yes that will fuck your lungs up, just try it yourself, next time you inhale, hold a piece of tissue straight infront of your mouth, exhale and look at the brown residue that accumulates. That's tar.


A true fact, but also essentially a negligible one. Good weed requires no more than one hit to get you high. Definitely no more than three.

Let's say a person takes 20 hits of weed a day, and we assign some incidental number as designating "tar damage on lungs." Let's use 5, so now we can have a nice even 100 points of "tar damage on lungs" a day for smoking weed.

As for smoking ciggarettes, you can typically get about 10 hits from one, give or take a few for different brands/styles. If marijuana smoke is indeed 50% worse than cigarette smoke (as far as tar content goes), then each tobacco puff would receive a "tar damage on lungs" score of about 3.33. If a person only smokes 5 ciggarettes a day (quite a small amount for a regular smoker), then each cigarette gets a score of 33.3. Times that by 5 ciggarettes a day, and we're already up to 166.5 points.

Results:
20 hits of weed a day = 100 "damage" points.
5 cigarettes a day = 166.5 "damage" points.

So, as far as damage to your lungs goes, you're probably better off smoking weed, since people that smoke cigarettes are prone to inhale far more tar, even though each single puff does contain less tar.

[bung]

You cant honestly be serious, the distractions from a phone are way less than the distractions from someone who is under the influence of something.

Studies have conclusively proven otherwise. It's also interesting to note that having a hands-free device makes little difference.

[zion the lion]

Studies have conclusively proven otherwise. It's also interesting to note that having a hands-free device makes little difference.

Oh yes, ok so next time, I'll just go out and get high and drive the 2 year old girl I baby sit to the store...since it's better than eating a french fry or yawning.

You got nothing out of the first post of mine that you quoted, did you.

[bung]

Oh yes, ok so next time, I'll just go out and get high and drive the 2 year old girl I baby sit to the store...since it's better than eating a french fry or yawning.

Eating is not as significant of a factor as talking on a cell phone because the process is largely automatic and requires far less cognitive resources. Yawning doesn't necessarily mean you're tired, either. It just means your brain wants more oxygen.

I'm not saying it's a good idea to drive while stoned, simply that many things people perceive as not as bad (like being tired or using a cell phone) are actually worse as far as the possibility of car accidents are concerned.

You got nothing out of the first post of mine that you quoted, did you.

I got out of it the fact that you drew causation from a single instance, which is academically dishonest and fallacious.

[Pappageo]

Someone may have said this already but watch the documentary film called 'The Union: The Business Behind Getting High'. It's available for stream on netflix if you have that. Discusses a lot of the myths involving marijuana, a lot of which im sure have been brought up in this thread. Also has hilarious moments from Joe Rogan.

[zion the lion]

Eating is not as significant of a factor as talking on a cell phone because the process is largely automatic and requires far less cognitive resources. Yawning doesn't necessarily mean you're tired, either. It just means your brain wants more oxygen.

I'm not saying it's a good idea to drive while stoned, simply that many things people perceive as not as bad (like being tired or using a cell phone) are actually worse as far as the possibility of car accidents are concerned.



I got out of it the fact that you drew causation from a single instance, which is academically dishonest and fallacious.

And that has nothing to do with the fact that it's more common for people to drive while tired or drive and talk?

Not the fact that him saying "I make good decisions while high, and I drive perfectly while high" means that he doesnt make good decisions while high and that he obviously does not have good judgment? Not that doing such a thing is selfish and reckless and can have such severe consequences? Not that it's the thing that caused my aunt an amount of pain that no parent should ever even have to imagine, is the very thing he's saying he can do well? Not the fact that he's only helping the stoner "stereotype"?

Yeah okay.

edit: And if people like you are going to try to justify driving while high on weed, then maybe it should stay illegal, and maybe they should just eradicate it from this universe because clearly the kid I was talking about (and all of the others like him who for some sad reason are in denial about how dumb they really are) cant control himself.

[Chrisj182]

The night I turned 18 I drank a load of shit-mix at my mates house then crashed there. Walking back to my mums in the morning I had a two-skinner to myself. When I got home I threw up, started shivering loads, passed out and the threw up again. Then 30 minutes later I was fine. Well fucked up.

[bung]

And that has nothing to do with the fact that it's more common for people to drive while tired or drive and talk?

Not the fact that him saying "I make good decisions while high, and I drive perfectly while high" means that he doesnt make good decisions while high and that he obviously does not have good judgment? Not that doing such a thing is selfish and reckless and can have such severe consequences? Not that it's the thing that caused my aunt an amount of pain that no parent should ever even have to imagine, is the very thing he's saying he can do well? Not the fact that he's only helping the stoner "stereotype"?

Yeah okay.

edit: And if people like you are going to try to justify driving while high on weed, then maybe it should stay illegal, and maybe they should just eradicate it from this universe because clearly the kid I was talking about (and all of the others like him who for some sad reason are in denial about how dumb they really are) cant control himself.

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/resources/InsideSystemStorage/pics-vader-water-filter.jpg

That picture makes more sense than your stupid, stupid fucking post.

[zion the lion]

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/resources/InsideSystemStorage/pics-vader-water-filter.jpg

That picture makes more sense than your stupid, stupid fucking post.

That picture makes perfect sense. Or are you just too high to see the obviousness of it.

Edit: Just in care nobody else understands, I have no problem with marijuana, the general population of it's smokers. I have a problem with the idiots who do it and who dont realize that the decisions they're making while high are not the best decisions at all. I dont like it for personal reasons (that I have not mentioned here) but if all the people who cant make good decisions are put on Charon to start their own little colony, I would be fine with it being legal, and would probably use the legalization for my own personal profit.

[StriketheMartyr]

the truth is, smoking ANYTHING isnt necessarily good for your lungs, thats just science unfortunately. however, if you're comparing marijuana to camels, marijuana is much better for you in the respect that it doesn't have any of the harmful chemicals that are added to cigarettes.

i smoke often, and i'll admit that my short term memory has definitely been effected. other than that, can't say there are many side effects...besides being burnt the morning after one too many hits...

[OldJersey]

smoke weed all day EVERY dayyyyyyyyy all i do

[bung]

Edit: Just in care nobody else understands, I have no problem with marijuana, the general population of it's smokers. I have a problem with the idiots who do it and who dont realize that the decisions they're making while high are not the best decisions at all. I dont like it for personal reasons (that I have not mentioned here) but if all the people who cant make good decisions are put on Charon to start their own little colony, I would be fine with it being legal, and would probably use the legalization for my own personal profit.

This was unnecessary, because no one cares what you think.

[nonamesleft]

Aww come on now, everyone loves a frenchy.

USA clinched berth, that means, "pack it up and smoke it."

Nah, not really into Frenchie's. Haha.

[Skillen]

I've read quite a few papers on marijuana and its effects. A study on head and neck cancers in boston found that marijuana use significantly reduced the risk of Squamous cell carinomas, a type of cancer. Another study found THC (the active ingrediant in marijuana to be a bronchiodilator (used to treat asthma) and concluded that THC could be used to theraputic in patients with mild to severe asthma.

Studies have found that marijuana use has considerable effects on the repiratory system, eg chronic cought, sputum production and wheezing. Also a long term reduced lung capacity has been found. However, a study that looked at morality associated with marijuana use found no difference than non-smokers.

It has also bee found that marijuana is much more destructive per cigarette smoked - 4 joints is the same as roughly 20 cigarettes. There was also an increase in the amount of lung pathology between marijuana smokers (MS) to non-smokers (NS) also marijuana plus tabacco smokers had additive effects. The pathology could potentially be precursours to bronchiogenic carcinoma and respiratory trac malignancies.

Marijuana smoke has also been found to impair the lungs defences against infection by reduction the number of alveola macrophages. This reducion in he number of macrphages means a reduced immune response in the lung, reducing the bodies ability to fight cancer. An unsual number of patints under 45 years old with a history of marijuana use have been found with lung cancer.

Thats pretty much what I've found from evidence based studies. Most of this research is from regular marijuana smokers but there you have it. So I think that is /thread. As nobody can argue about this any more because we have facts.

[mattmatumbo]

Nah, not really into Frenchie's. Haha.

Not even horribly disfigured frenchies?

[.invisible ink.]

the truth is, smoking ANYTHING isnt necessarily good for your lungs, thats just science unfortunately. however, if you're comparing marijuana to camels, marijuana is much better for you in the respect that it doesn't have any of the harmful chemicals that are added to cigarettes.

i smoke often, and i'll admit that my short term memory has definitely been effected. other than that, can't say there are many side effects...besides being burnt the morning after one too many hits...

i wonder how many people even realize that not all marijuana is organic/hydroponically grown/pesticide free. it's something to think about... http://420magazine.com/forums/international-cannabis-news/97982-medical-marijuana-pesticides.html

http://www.civilliberties.org/newslet/pestpot.html

[limepomegranate]

no i'm not stupid i get straight a's and am pretty much an overacheiver...

[Heroin Robot]

It's been 2 years and his mom is still devastated. My mom drives perfectly while drunk as a skunk, do you think that makes it any better? Oh no, that means she makes all of her good decisions while drunk. The fact that you say you make good decisions while high and then go on to say that you drive while high means that you dont make good decisions at all.

Maybe next time you drive "perfectly" and high hopefully you'll kill someone young, and hopefully you'll get the privilege of seeing every single second of agony that the parents will have to suffer for the rest of their lives.

You are a goddamn idiot, and I hope you know that you're only furthering the "stereotype" that people who smoke pot are dumb, worthless, selfish, pieces of shit who really do need to be strapped into a car and driven right into the ocean, so that the rest of us can go on being productive members of society. People like you are fucking pathetic.


Ok I was nice in response to you sharing your tragic story, so why do you attack me? Driving high is NOT the same as driving drunk. Unfortunately people like you have wrong stereotypes/misconceptions. Being "high" is vague as well, I'd never drive high on anything other than weed. And you wishing my death? You hope I kill someone else too? Are you serious?

Why don't you drive into an ocean so you can save the rest of society your ignorant bitching?

[Heroin Robot]

I've read quite a few papers on marijuana and its effects. A study on head and neck cancers in boston found that marijuana use significantly reduced the risk of Squamous cell carinomas, a type of cancer. Another study found THC (the active ingrediant in marijuana to be a bronchiodilator (used to treat asthma) and concluded that THC could be used to theraputic in patients with mild to severe asthma.

Studies have found that marijuana use has considerable effects on the repiratory system, eg chronic cought, sputum production and wheezing. Also a long term reduced lung capacity has been found. However, a study that looked at morality associated with marijuana use found no difference than non-smokers.

It has also bee found that marijuana is much more destructive per cigarette smoked - 4 joints is the same as roughly 20 cigarettes. There was also an increase in the amount of lung pathology between marijuana smokers (MS) to non-smokers (NS) also marijuana plus tabacco smokers had additive effects. The pathology could potentially be precursours to bronchiogenic carcinoma and respiratory trac malignancies.

Marijuana smoke has also been found to impair the lungs defences against infection by reduction the number of alveola macrophages. This reducion in he number of macrphages means a reduced immune response in the lung, reducing the bodies ability to fight cancer. An unsual number of patints under 45 years old with a history of marijuana use have been found with lung cancer.

Thats pretty much what I've found from evidence based studies. Most of this research is from regular marijuana smokers but there you have it. So I think that is /thread. As nobody can argue about this any more because we have facts.

We have facts? All I see are your words, anecdotal at best, till you provide documented proof of these claims.

[chassmariee]

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/resources/InsideSystemStorage/pics-vader-water-filter.jpg

That picture makes more sense than your stupid, stupid fucking post.

This picture was this bands 'The Bitchshitters' default picture. Just saying.
Anyway I wanted to share that I have never hotboxxed a car like I did last night. :) That's all.

[Codi23]

Indeed it is. We have to do reports on various articles related to things we're studying in my biological psychology class, and I'm doing mine on that article right now. :-)
Wow, interesting thing to do a paper on haha.

Someone may have said this already but watch the documentary film called 'The Union: The Business Behind Getting High'. It's available for stream on netflix if you have that. Discusses a lot of the myths involving marijuana, a lot of which im sure have been brought up in this thread. Also has hilarious moments from Joe Rogan.
It was recommended to me by someone, I'll probably check it out at some point.

P.s. I don't really smoke, but have friends who are complete stoners; this stuff just interests me.

[.invisible ink.]

We have facts? All I see are your words, anecdotal at best, till you provide documented proof of these claims.

copycat. ;-)


Anyway I wanted to share that I have never hotboxxed a car like I did last night. :) That's all.

there's actually a thread for that... http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1240522

[chassmariee]

copycat. ;-)



there's actually a thread for that... http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1240522
I'm aware homegirl, I was just sayin'.

[Heroin Robot]

copycat. ;-)






I know, but I share the exact interest as you ;-)

[nonamesleft]

Not even horribly disfigured frenchies?

Tempting, but no.

I'm more into men from Salt Lake, UT.

[zion the lion]

This was unnecessary, because no one cares what you think.

It's funny because you say this, and then respond to the things I say...

Ok I was nice in response to you sharing your tragic story, so why do you attack me? Driving high is NOT the same as driving drunk. Unfortunately people like you have wrong stereotypes/misconceptions. Being "high" is vague as well, I'd never drive high on anything other than weed. And you wishing my death? You hope I kill someone else too? Are you serious?

Why don't you drive into an ocean so you can save the rest of society your ignorant bitching?

Are you serious. Maybe I'm too sensitive on this subject, but you're honestly trying to tell me that driving high on weed is safe? You cant be that fucking stupid. And no, I wasnt wishing death on anybody, I said that next time you do this, you might kill someone, and hopefully if you take someone's life this way, you can see how tragic it is for the parents of the victim.

[gphatx]

You start to lose your short-term memory.

[bung]

It's funny because you say this, and then respond to the things I say...

Only because clowns say funny things, and I always need a good laugh.

Are you serious. Maybe I'm too sensitive on this subject, but you're honestly trying to tell me that driving high on weed is safe? You cant be that fucking stupid.

Safer than driving and talking on a cell phone. And shit, that's legal for me.

next time you do this, you might kill someone, and hopefully if you take someone's life this way, you can see how tragic it is for the parents of the victim.

Pretty sure it's damn near equally tragic for parents that lose a child, no matter how it occurs.

[Selkies]

Driving while high isn't the safest but you also drive 15 miles under the speed limit...evens itself out.

[Skillen]

We have facts? All I see are your words, anecdotal at best, till you provide documented proof of these claims.

copycat. ;-)

Really you think i made that all up... I'll go reference it then. Man, feels like uni. You wont get full access to the articles unless you pay, but you might get the abstracts if you look.

1. A population-based case-control study of marijuana use and head and neck squamous cell carcinoma. Liang C (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Liang%20C%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed. Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_Discover yPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus), McClean MD (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22McClean%20MD%22%5BAuthor%5D &itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed. Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_Discover yPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus), Marsit C (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Marsit%20C%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed. Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_Discover yPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus), Christensen B (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Christensen%20B%22%5BAuthor %5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed. Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_Discover yPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus), Peters E (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Peters%20E%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed. Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_Discover yPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus), Nelson HH (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Nelson%20HH%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed. Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_Discover yPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus), Kelsey KT (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Kelsey%20KT%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed. Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_Discover yPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus).
Department of Community Health, Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine, Division of Biology and Medicine, Brown University, Providence, RI, USA.
2.Airway effects of marijuana, cocaine, and other inhaled illicit agents.
Tashkin, Donald

I've read more studies but I think these cover eerything I quoted/said.

[Mibabalou]

fucking hippies

[Codi23]

Driving while high isn't the safest but you also drive 15 miles under the speed limit...evens itself out.
This is usually the case with people I know haha.

I still don't like it when people drive high though :shrug:. You're still under the influence, and there's no way someone's reaction time is up to par when they're high.

[StriketheMartyr]

i wonder how many people even realize that not all marijuana is organic/hydroponically grown/pesticide free. it's something to think about... http://420magazine.com/forums/international-cannabis-news/97982-medical-marijuana-pesticides.html

http://www.civilliberties.org/newslet/pestpot.html


very true, i honestly hadn't given much thought to that. well i guess to edit my above post, even if weed IS as bad for you as cigarettes....is that going to make you stop? it should, but it won't probably haha

[.invisible ink.]

very true, i honestly hadn't given much thought to that. well i guess to edit my above post, even if weed IS as bad for you as cigarettes....is that going to make you stop? it should, but it won't probably haha

that would probably mean i would have to give up cigarettes too (which i already know i should do), lol.

[StriketheMartyr]

that would probably mean i would have to give up cigarettes too (which i already know i should do), lol.

haha i feel your pain. i quit 2 years ago, but lately ive been wanting them more than i ever have in my life!

[.invisible ink.]

haha i feel your pain. i quit 2 years ago, but lately ive been wanting them more than i ever have in my life!

i was doing well for a while with cutting back to only about 3/day but lately i've been terrible about smoking (probably gotten up to smoking around 5-7/day). it's sort of the only thing that keeps me sane sometimes so i just allow myself to do it even though i know i shouldn't.

[WakeUpBlondie]

Inhaling burning plant matter is bad for your lungs. That is a fact.

Smoking out of a vaporizer or bong/water pipe, however, is much healthier.

As a non smoker, I'm 100% for the legalization of marijuana. I was actually thinking about starting an organization called "Non Smokers for Marijuana Reform" or "Marijuana Legalization" or something like that, but I don't really have time. I wish someone else would do it, because there are a lot of non stoners in the world that are sick of their tax dollars being wasted on bullshit.


Dan,

I feel honored to have you in this thread. Ironically, I was at a party last night at Ohio State, and this random guy and i got to talking about music. He remembered "some guy called playradioplay" way back in the day on purevolume, I told him you are HUGE now, and gave him your CD. He couldn't believe it, keep on making joyous music.

[zion the lion]

Inhaling burning plant matter is bad for your lungs. That is a fact.

Smoking out of a vaporizer or bong/water pipe, however, is much healthier.

As a non smoker, I'm 100% for the legalization of marijuana. I was actually thinking about starting an organization called "Non Smokers for Marijuana Reform" or "Marijuana Legalization" or something like that, but I don't really have time. I wish someone else would do it, because there are a lot of non stoners in the world that are sick of their tax dollars being wasted on bullshit.

I would be for the legalization, but only if the government
-educates the general population about the drug with absolutely no bias.
-makes it safe (my friend overdosed because she was smoking weed and there was a bunch of shit in it)
-puts restrictions on it
-uses a good fraction of the tax revenue on something useful like medical research
-allows people to grow it

None of which will probably ever happen. I dont think it will be legalized (or even considered) until this country goes in to a deep depression and has no choice.

[Analog Rebellion]

Dan,

I feel honored to have you in this thread. Ironically, I was at a party last night at Ohio State, and this random guy and i got to talking about music. He remembered "some guy called playradioplay" way back in the day on purevolume, I told him you are HUGE now, and gave him your CD. He couldn't believe it, keep on making joyous music.
:wave:

Haha, that's cool. Tell him about the name change :-)

I would be for the legalization, but only if the government
-educates the general population about the drug with absolutely no bias.
-makes it safe (my friend overdosed because she was smoking weed and there was a bunch of shit in it)
-puts restrictions on it
-uses a good fraction of the tax revenue on something useful like medical research
-allows people to grow it

None of which will probably ever happen. I dont think it will be legalized (or even considered) until this country goes in to a deep depression and has no choice.
I agree with all of that.

1. If marijuana becomes legal, it will definitely be an issue that the government educates people about, much like alcohol and cigarettes. Just because it will be legal doesn't mean the government is going to TELL people to smoke it. They'll still educate people about using responsibly and quitting if they feel the need.
2. Of course it will be safe. And I have a hard time believing that someone overdosed on weed that was laced with something, whether it was coke, meth, formaldehyde, MDMA, whatever. He would have had to smoke MOSTLY the other substance (meaning other than weed) or a SHIT load of weed that was laced with a substance. I don't know. It's just hard to believe. Regardless, that's not something that would happen if marijuana had a regulated market.
3. It would be 21 and up. MAYBE 18 and up, but I doubt it.
4. Seeing how useful cannabis and hemp are in both the medical field and otherwise, I'm sure a large amount of money would be invested into studying the medical effects of marijuana.
5. If California is any indicator, then you should know that people that have medical marijuana licenses there (which is a SHIT load of people, pretty much anybody that wants one) are allowed to grow up to 5 marijuana plants as well as purchasing marijuana from dispensaries, of which there are now more of in LA than there are Starbucks.

So actually, I think all of the things you just stated are not only likely, but expected to happen.

[StriketheMartyr]

i was doing well for a while with cutting back to only about 3/day but lately i've been terrible about smoking (probably gotten up to smoking around 5-7/day). it's sort of the only thing that keeps me sane sometimes so i just allow myself to do it even though i know i shouldn't.
it's so tough. the only way i was able to quit smoking in the first place was i stopped drinking coffee at the same time (i associated the two pretty strongly) and i made it through. i've caved recently and had 2....i regret it but at the same time....aahhh hahah

[mattmatumbo]

Tempting, but no.

I'm more into men from Salt Lake, UT.

You must mean SL,UT. Yeah, we bring only the burliest, meanest, most brutal to the table haha. So you play hockey? What position? I smoked "purple train-wreck" last night, it's certainly not purple, but i was, indeed, a train-wreck.

[mooshthedoosh]

pot does indeed make one lazy for some people. For others, if they are accustomed to it, it helps them function and doesnt really deteriorate their daily functions.

[nonamesleft]

You must mean SL,UT. Yeah, we bring only the burliest, meanest, most brutal to the table haha. So you play hockey? What position? I smoked "purple train-wreck" last night, it's certainly not purple, but i was, indeed, a train-wreck.

Hot.
Yeah, I play hockey. I am Canadian, after all. I'm right wing.

That's unreal. We don't really have crazy named drugs over here.

[Ryan Mills]

Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol binds to CB1 receptors on presynaptic nerve terminals, activating G-proteins that work on numerous signal transduction pathways including the following effects: directly inhibiting N- and P/Q-type voltage dependent calcium and sodium channels, indirectly inhibiting A-type calcium channels via adenylate cyclase inhibition, activating inwardly rectifying potassium channels and MAP kinase signally pathway. Generally accepted side effects include: dose-related tachycardia, reddening of the conjunctiva, orthostatic hypotension due to vasodilation. Acutely it produces bronchodilation but chronically it produces bronchoconstriction and increased risk of bronchitis, sinusitis and asthma. Sedation, impaired memory, impaired motor skills, decreased task-oriented behavior. High doses are associated with hallucinations, anxiety, and altered memory storage.

[concernedparent]

I like how every person in this thread is just giving their opinions about the effects of weed like they're facts. This is a long ass thread, and I haven't seen one solid study or link or anything.

[Skillen]

I like how every person in this thread is just giving their opinions about the effects of weed like they're facts. This is a long ass thread, and I haven't seen one solid study or link or anything.

I'm pretty sure i just gave references to my post in the last page so shht.

[.invisible ink.]

I like how every person in this thread is just giving their opinions about the effects of weed like they're facts. This is a long ass thread, and I haven't seen one solid study or link or anything.

this is why i love you, Casey. You're exactly correct.

you need to post more often. ap is lacking without your presence.

[concernedparent]

I didn't know you loved me! I've just been so busy, busy, busy.

[oldwirehands]

Our brains have cannabis receptors for a reason. Smoke up.

[oldwirehands]

:wave:

Haha, that's cool. Tell him about the name change :-)


I agree with all of that.

1. If marijuana becomes legal, it will definitely be an issue that the government educates people about, much like alcohol and cigarettes. Just because it will be legal doesn't mean the government is going to TELL people to smoke it. They'll still educate people about using responsibly and quitting if they feel the need.
2. Of course it will be safe. And I have a hard time believing that someone overdosed on weed that was laced with something, whether it was coke, meth, formaldehyde, MDMA, whatever. He would have had to smoke MOSTLY the other substance (meaning other than weed) or a SHIT load of weed that was laced with a substance. I don't know. It's just hard to believe. Regardless, that's not something that would happen if marijuana had a regulated market.
3. It would be 21 and up. MAYBE 18 and up, but I doubt it.
4. Seeing how useful cannabis and hemp are in both the medical field and otherwise, I'm sure a large amount of money would be invested into studying the medical effects of marijuana.
5. If California is any indicator, then you should know that people that have medical marijuana licenses there (which is a SHIT load of people, pretty much anybody that wants one) are allowed to grow up to 5 marijuana plants as well as purchasing marijuana from dispensaries, of which there are now more of in LA than there are Starbucks.

So actually, I think all of the things you just stated are not only likely, but expected to happen.

I've heard a rumor that in order to intake a lethal dose of marijuana, you need to smoke something like 15,000 joints in 20 minutes. I would love to see someone step up to that challenge.

[Br&nizzle]

I spend a lot of time sitting very still, enjoying that giant innertube sensation.
We don't do much more than get blitzed and watch movies (I recall I Love You Man being really really hilarious, and Requiem for a Dream being much, much sadder than when I'd seen it sober), though every once and while we freestyle (I know), or play Scattegories (what the fuck.)

[mayday mayday]

weed just makes me feel confused but peaceful.

[ted is lying]

It gives you X-ray vision. Or just helps your eye sight.