Birth control changes a women's taste in men

[thursday727]

interesting
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=birth-control-pills-affect-womens-taste

[kbi the crowing]

it's a good thing I'm a beast in the sack...

kidding (not really) but that is kinda interesting
I'd like to actually see the details of the study(ies) conducted that found these results

[Sventhegreat]

Very interesting.

[pr0digy]

more reasons proving how fucking crazy women tend to be..

[AMackChuck]

My girlfriend is on the pill! Ah, fuck.

[anthonydarko]

Crazy

[dmobley]

My girlfriend is on the pill! Ah, fuck.
i'd still say thats a good thing. i'd rather have my girlfriend be a little different than have a kid... just sayin.

[muzicislife31]

So if I'm in a relationship I shouldn't go on the pill because it might ruin it?

[KoolAidMatt]

get an IUD instead

[zion the lion]

get an IUD instead

So that she can bleed constantly, gain 70 pounds (trust me, every girl I know has gotten one and 70 pounds was the least amount of weight gained), oh, and those make women crazier, and give them an amazing amount of acne (the big cysty kind).

Glad to know that grants for science are being spent trying to make women with extra estrogen look like dumb psychotic gold digging whores.

thank god we know this now, instead of figuring out how to cure and prevent the insignificant things like Alzheimer's

[KoolAidMatt]

So that she can bleed constantly, gain 70 pounds (trust me, every girl I know has gotten one and 70 pounds was the least amount of weight gained), oh, and those make women crazier, and give them an amazing amount of acne (the big cysty kind).

Glad to know that grants for science are being spent trying to make women with extra estrogen look like dumb psychotic gold digging whores.

thank god we know this now, instead of figuring out how to cure and prevent the insignificant things like Alzheimer's

hah I know a girl who had it and she is bat-shit crazy

[zion the lion]

hah I know a girl who had it and she is bat-shit crazy

My mom had one for a while, and she was so insane which drove me insane. She gained 90 pounds because of it.

[-whisp-]

oh this is just fantastic......

[Cøltøn]

My girlfriend is just about to go on the pill. Fffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[lightupthesky]

So that she can bleed constantly, gain 70 pounds (trust me, every girl I know has gotten one and 70 pounds was the least amount of weight gained), oh, and those make women crazier, and give them an amazing amount of acne (the big cysty kind).

Glad to know that grants for science are being spent trying to make women with extra estrogen look like dumb psychotic gold digging whores.

thank god we know this now, instead of figuring out how to cure and prevent the insignificant things like Alzheimer's

wut

[Reaver]

My girlfriend is just about to go on the pill. Fffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

hahahah

[zion the lion]

wut


I was basically saying that there are better things that scientists could be using that money for instead of this useless shit. My main priority when it comes to the medical science world is that they find a cure for Alzheimer's, I'm sure millions of people would be happier about not seeing their parents deteriorate (to the point of forgetting how to talk, swallow, or go to the bathroom) than open a science magazine and see this useless bullshit.

by the way, I got on the pill when I was 15, and 7 months earlier my boyfriend told me he loved me, and a year and a half after starting the pill my taste in men hasnt totally changed, and my feelings for him has never wavered. Either way, I'm sure the effects are being over exaggerated in that article to make it sound more interesting than it is.

[Chancetobe]

Haven't noticed this at all :shrug:

[BlackpoolLights]

You're all idiots, particularly the guy bitching that his girlfriend is about to go on the pill.

If you have a mutually trusting, loving, dedicated relationship, yeah, you might have some stuff to work through. I'm certainly not contradicting that study. But it's not going to be some magical breakup pill that will suddenly make you dispensable. Especially if you have a great friendship at the basis of your relationship (which you always should).

My girlfriend went on the pill about halfway through the three years we've been together, and yeah, it changed her. She was more irritable for a few months, had mood swings, was (more) emotional (than usual). Did it make her want to break up with me? ...maybe sometimes. But that's my own fault for being a douchebag ;-) it wasn't the pill's fault.

[limepomegranate]

i went on the pill and lost weight...now i'm back to normal weight size but i don't notice any change in mood or anything....

[geebee889]

It's just a new excuse to try and make up for the shitty divorce rates.

[bung]

This is a fucking stupid study, and all psychology is bullshit.

[ilikesound93]

hah I know a girl who had it and she is bat-shit crazy

What's an IUD?

[thursday727]

This is a fucking stupid study, and all psychology is bullshit.
you sound like a scientologist

[4N6 science]

Pills are good.

[bung]

you sound like a scientologist

Actually, out of all religions/cults/scams, Scientology is probably the closest to the Truth.

[AndrewIcex]

Bitches and their pills.

[KoolAidMatt]

What's an IUD?

I don't know the details I wasn't particularly interested in her story but it's an Intrauterine Device and basically it's a copper device that's fitted into the uterus I think and makes it basically impossible for you to get pregnant while inserted. I think she's had it for 2-3 years or something..

[BananasaurusRex]

Bullshit.

[ilikesound93]

I don't know the details I wasn't particularly interested in her story but it's an Intrauterine Device and basically it's a copper device that's fitted into the uterus I think and makes it basically impossible for you to get pregnant while inserted. I think she's had it for 2-3 years or something..

Oh so it's kinda like that nuvaring thing. huh.

[lightupthesky]

I was basically saying that there are better things that scientists could be using that money for instead of this useless shit. My main priority when it comes to the medical science world is that they find a cure for Alzheimer's, I'm sure millions of people would be happier about not seeing their parents deteriorate (to the point of forgetting how to talk, swallow, or go to the bathroom) than open a science magazine and see this useless bullshit.

by the way, I got on the pill when I was 15, and 7 months earlier my boyfriend told me he loved me, and a year and a half after starting the pill my taste in men hasnt totally changed, and my feelings for him has never wavered. Either way, I'm sure the effects are being over exaggerated in that article to make it sound more interesting than it is.

my question was mostly about this

trying to make women with extra estrogen look like dumb psychotic gold digging whores.

because i don't remember reading anything about psychotic gold digging whores in that article.

[zion the lion]

my question was mostly about this



because i don't remember reading anything about psychotic gold digging whores in that article.

I didnt either, but there are a bunch of articles like this
(http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16410-high-hormone-levels-in-women-linked-to-unfaithfulness.html)

[Rob Hrx]

This is so fucked up. My ex went off the pill two to three months before she cheated on me.

[ted is lying]

Will wedding vows now read "do you promise to always take your birth control"

[jmirand1]

So if I'm in a relationship I shouldn't go on the pill because it might ruin it?

Depends...it could make it better...or worse. It depends on your boyfriend's DNa.

[jmirand1]

My girlfriend is just about to go on the pill. Fffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Better start scouting for something new...

[caress me down]

That's whack.
I know a bunch of people who are on the pill and none have become less attracted to their men though....
Either way, I'm never going on birth control

[yufli]

This sounds like a way to push some new drug, probably. Psychology is so bullshit.

What about the needle, or the patch? Do those things still exist?

[bung]

I didnt either, but there are a bunch of articles like this
(http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16410-high-hormone-levels-in-women-linked-to-unfaithfulness.html)

Sooo basically you're angry that neuroscience is figuring out the effects various hormones can have on behavior?

[zion the lion]

Sooo basically you're angry that neuroscience is figuring out the effects various hormones can have on behavior?

You like to read between the nonexistent lines dont you?

[TheByrus]

The stairs are still the best form of contraception.

[bung]

You like to read between the nonexistent lines dont you?

Oh, I see what you're angry about. You want:

Alzheimer's research - $10 billion
Cancer research - $5 billion
AIDS research - $5 billion
All other research is unimportant, so - $0

[zion the lion]

Oh, I see what you're angry about. You want:

Alzheimer's research - $10 billion
Cancer research - $5 billion
AIDS research - $5 billion
All other research is unimportant, so - $0

I dont think I said anything about AIDS or Cancer...

[bung]

I dont think I said anything about AIDS or Cancer...

That was me assuming.. So they're out, too, then? Not important enough?

[zion the lion]

That was me assuming.. So they're out, too, then? Not important enough?

Ehh, well, my grandma has cancer and the african babies are somewhat cute so whatever, not as important though.

[limepomegranate]

Actually, out of all religions/cults/scams, Scientology is probably the closest to the Truth.
hahahahahahhaha
I hope you're kidding.

[zion the lion]

The stairs are still the best form of contraception.

I fall down the stairs all the time, never killed a baby in the process.

You have to kind of set up the preggo to be jumped...its the manly way.

[bung]

Ehh, well, my grandma has cancer and the african babies are somewhat cute so whatever, not as important though.

It doesn't make a difference to you that a person that gets Alzheimer's has already lived at least like 60 years of their life? Whereas a person can get cancer at 20 and just be fucked? Or that cancer kills something like 7 times as many people as Alzheimer's?

hahahahahahhaha
I hope you're kidding.

The instability of your personal thetan is what's causing doubts in you about the Truth.

[limepomegranate]

It doesn't make a difference to you that a person that gets Alzheimer's has already lived at least like 60 years of their life? Whereas a person can get cancer at 20 and just be fucked? Or that cancer kills something like 7 times as many people as Alzheimer's?



The instability of your personal thetan is what's causing doubts in you about the Truth.
That we're all these alien souls?? That's crazy talk...

[zion the lion]

It doesn't make a difference to you that a person that gets Alzheimer's has already lived at least like 60 years of their life? Whereas a person can get cancer at 20 and just be fucked? Or that cancer kills something like 7 times as many people as Alzheimer's?



The instability of your personal thetan is what's causing doubts in you about the Truth.

It does make a difference, but I care more about Alzheimer's, I can give my grandma my bone marrow if we're a match, and she'll hopefully be fine, so it's not as big of a deal to me.

[bung]

It does make a difference, but I care more about Alzheimer's, I can give my grandma my bone marrow if we're a match, and she'll hopefully be fine, so it's not as big of a deal to me.

Well I guess if something's not causing a problem for you or your family, it's not a big deal.

[JordanBuell]

anal. answer to literally everything.

[bung]

That we're all these alien souls??

Well, actually... no. It's only you. Everyone else is normal.

[zion the lion]

Well I guess if something's not causing a problem for you or your family, it's not a big deal.

It's still a big deal, Alzheimer's will just be a deal that's a billion times bigger.

[bung]

It's still a big deal, Alzheimer's will just be a deal that's a billion times bigger.

Ironically enough, considering our prior conversation, marijuana protects against Alzheimer's disease and saves dying neurons of patients suffering from it (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=marijuana-hurts-some-helps-others).

[zion the lion]

Ironically enough, considering our prior conversation, marijuana protects against Alzheimer's disease and saves dying neurons of patients suffering from it (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=marijuana-hurts-some-helps-others).

I have no problem with marijuana.

[Hamlet]

The stairs are still the best form of contraception.

I thought a coathanger was.

[Jake Denning]

So that she can bleed constantly, gain 70 pounds (trust me, every girl I know has gotten one and 70 pounds was the least amount of weight gained), oh, and those make women crazier, and give them an amazing amount of acne (the big cysty kind).

Glad to know that grants for science are being spent trying to make women with extra estrogen look like dumb psychotic gold digging whores.

thank god we know this now, instead of figuring out how to cure and prevent the insignificant things like Alzheimer's

hey, maybe they are really underweight, so that way they just end up having a tiny water-balloon tummy.

[Ryan Mills]

Ironically enough, considering our prior conversation, marijuana protects against Alzheimer's disease and saves dying neurons of patients suffering from it (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=marijuana-hurts-some-helps-others).

Sounds to me like they are extrapolating a rat study looking at effects of marijuana on adult rat brains versus young rat brains to Alzheimer's in humans, which is, of course, impossible to do. You can't read articles in magazines and expect to find out about the actual research. Not to mention they make the effects sound new or more important than they are. They say: "THC boosts depleted levels of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, which, when diminished, contributes to the weakened mental function in Alzheimer’s patients." Well that's nice, but 1. that effect will be less effective than the drugs available for Alzheimer's that do this (galantamine, donepezil, rivastigmine, tacrine) and 2. how important that is can be debated since those drugs only help a proportion of patients and even those who are helped continue to decline. There are other problems with this article, but you get the idea.

[bung]

Sounds to me like they are extrapolating a rat study looking at effects of marijuana on adult rat brains versus young rat brains to Alzheimer's in humans, which is, of course, impossible to do.

Actually no, it's not. Comparing the effect of neuron function from drugs in other mammalians to humans is one of the best techniques (and probably one of the most widely used) neuroscience has to offer. Neuron function is virtually identical across species because it evolved so long ago and is fundamental to all brain processes. And if I recall correctly, this specific study was designed to look at the effects of THC on developing rat brains versus mature rat brains, which can then be extrapolated with sizable confidence to the developing human brain. It was that article, not Campbell's study, that linked her findings to previous research on THC and Alzheimer's.

You can't read articles in magazines and expect to find out about the actual research. Not to mention they make the effects sound new or more important than they are.

I've read the actual peer-reviewed journal article, in addition to some previous ones done on humans in relation to Alzheimer's. I didn't link to them specifically because you'd need a subscription to the journal or database they're in to read them. And studies on this topic are new--as in, like, the past 3-4 years new. I, for one, do think it's important, too.

They say: "THC boosts depleted levels of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, which, when diminished, contributes to the weakened mental function in Alzheimer’s patients." Well that's nice, but 1. that effect will be less effective than the drugs available for Alzheimer's that do this (galantamine, donepezil, rivastigmine, tacrine)

And you know this how? Do you have any idea how much money is provided by pharmaceutical companies for researching the drugs they develop versus studies of this kind? Do you know that drug studies funded by pharmaceutical companies and government entities have been shown to rate the effectiveness of new, marketable drugs as up to 60-70% more effective than older drugs or non-patentable drugs when compared to other, independently funded research?

2. how important that is can be debated since those drugs only help a proportion of patients and even those who are helped continue to decline.

Indeed, but it's always beneficial to increase our knowledge about drugs and the brain.

[songydarko]

Hasn't changed my taste one bit.

[Ryan Mills]

Actually no, it's not. Comparing the effect of neuron function from drugs in other mammalians to humans is one of the best techniques (and probably one of the most widely used) neuroscience has to offer. Neuron function is virtually identical across species because it evolved so long ago and is fundamental to all brain processes. And if I recall correctly, this specific study was designed to look at the effects of THC on developing rat brains versus mature rat brains, which can then be extrapolated with sizable confidence to the developing human brain. It was that article, not Campbell's study, that linked her findings to previous research on THC and Alzheimer's.

I know how the research is done, but extrapolating adult rat brain results to adult human with Alzheimer's is not a linkage that works. Animal studies are very important and a lot of knowledge comes from them, but they are still a stepping stone.


And you know this how? Do you have any idea how much money is provided by pharmaceutical companies for researching the drugs they develop versus studies of this kind? Do you know that drug studies funded by pharmaceutical companies and government entities have been shown to rate the effectiveness of new, marketable drugs as up to 60-70% more effective than older drugs or non-patentable drugs when compared to other, independently funded research?

I'm aware of how drug companies influence data and so forth, that's not really the point. I know how THC effects neurons and how it works, and I know how those drugs work. Those drugs are specifically targeted to the Ach system (they act as AchE inhibitors).

The point is, I find it quite unlikely that smoking marijuana will actually impact the course of Alzheimer's. It may well treat some symptoms, but as for the progression, I find it hard to believe, and I have yet to see any evidence to support this. Alzheimer's effects everyone if they live long enough, and as of now we just don't know the etiology behind it. Without knowing the etiology, we're probably not going to be able to significantly stop the progression or prevent it. We do know some of the pathophysiology behind it, and some of this has led to somewhat helpful treatments (donepezil, etc. stemming from the knowledge that there is a decrease in cholinergic neurons early in Alzheimer's). There will be benefits from BDNF, but there will be better research and better ways of exploiting that than smoking marijuana (I'm sure you'll agree).

[limepomegranate]

Well, actually... no. It's only you. Everyone else is normal.
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[limepomegranate]

Hasn't changed my taste one bit.
i agree

[Kassie09]

That study is bullshit, lololol. Let's believe everything we read, it must be right!

[nonamesleft]

I don't think my taste in men has changed...

[saysmydoctor]

That study is bullshit, lololol. Let's believe everything we read, it must be right!
Platform 9 and three quarters does exist!

[SlappedActor]

Platform 9 and three quarters does exist!

In my pants.

[Hamlet]

That study is bullshit, lololol. Let's believe everything we read, it must be right!

I don't think my taste in men has changed...

Bear in mind that there are things about your body and mind that you cannot control. Attraction and love, when you get down to the science of it, are simply hormones and chemicals produced in the glands of the brain and body that produce pleasurable emotions. Messing with how they work is likely to cause changes in behaviour, regardless of whether you notice it or not.

[nonamesleft]

In my pants.

How you doing? :flirt:

Bear in mind that there are things about your body and mind that you cannot control. Attraction and love, when you get down to the science of it, are simply hormones and chemicals produced in the glands of the brain and body that produce pleasurable emotions. Messing with how they work is likely to cause changes in behaviour, regardless of whether you notice it or not.

Thanks, Doc.

[Kassie09]

I dunno, I would like to see the research they're basing it on. Not saying it's impossible but birth control pills aren't really a high dose of estrogen and other hormones. But yeah, I do see in the article is does note that bc pills trick your body into thinking it is pregnant which does change your hormones quite a bit. I can agree with you on it possibly causing unnoticeable things to happen since it has to do with things you're not conciously thinking about.

I personally have taken birth control pills for so many years that I can't really say that I know if my taste in men changed. I kinda wanna stop taking them and see if I like, stop liking my boyfriend as much over time. Seems unlikely, but interesting.

[splitsecond]

well this explains a lot