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Jon Foucart
05/17/06, 02:08 PM
Brent of Panic! At The Disco (http://www.panicatthedisco.com) has decided to leave the band. Head to their website for the statement.

sharpenup
05/17/06, 02:09 PM
reading the title i thought it was a joke... interesting

silverloydstein
05/17/06, 02:10 PM
holy crap.. why?? at the top of their career ? why now?. .that sad.

ishotthepilot
05/17/06, 02:11 PM
wow.


05.17.2006
There really isn’t a good way to say this, and it was a decision that was very tough to make, but feels like it will be the right decision for everyone. We regret to inform you that Brent is no longer a part of Panic at the Disco, and although this choice does feel very healthy, he is a great friend of ours and he will definitely be missed. We all wish him well and the best of luck in everything he wants to do in the future.The last few years will be something we will never forget, all the places we’ve been that we never thought we’d go and things we’ve seen that we thought we’d never see when we started this band.
Right now our friend jon is going to be filling in, and I’m sure it would ease his nerves a bit to get a warm reception. We’re at home preparing for the summer tour, and we’ve never worked so hard on putting something together. I can’t tell you how excited we are for these shows and for you all to see what we’ve been planning, we’ve got a few tricks up our sleeves…just you wait.


- panic




that doesnt necessarily sound like he left of his own decision.... hopefully we'll get some real explanation soon.
on another note, i wish their website was less unnavigable. if that's a word.

SummerxStars
05/17/06, 02:12 PM
wow. i wonder what the hell happened. im going to go check out their statement

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 02:13 PM
That is if you can browse the worst band website ever made.

sharpenup
05/17/06, 02:13 PM
05.17.2006
There really isn’t a good way to say this, and it was a decision that was very tough to make, but feels like it will be the right decision for everyone. We regret to inform you that Brent is no longer a part of Panic at the Disco, and although this choice does feel very healthy, he is a great friend of ours and he will definitely be missed. We all wish him well and the best of luck in everything he wants to do in the future.The last few years will be something we will never forget, all the places we’ve been that we never thought we’d go and things we’ve seen that we thought we’d never see when we started this band.
Right now our friend jon is going to be filling in, and I’m sure it would ease his nerves a bit to get a warm reception. We’re at home preparing for the summer tour, and we’ve never worked so hard on putting something together. I can’t tell you how excited we are for these shows and for you all to see what we’ve been planning, we’ve got a few tricks up our sleeves…just you wait.


- panic


Thats the statement for people who dont want to go to the website

TheJon
05/17/06, 02:14 PM
What a ridiculous ass website... talk about counterintuitive... and it has nothing to do with the band.

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 02:14 PM
That is if you can browse the worst band website ever made.

yeah that site fucking sucks

MusicOrMisery
05/17/06, 02:14 PM
Interesting, I suspect there was something else going on here.

It'll be nice to say I saw them with their original lineup though!

black rose
05/17/06, 02:15 PM
wow, this really surprised me.
i'm really dissapointed.
i am seeing them this summer on their headlining tour.
i'm really really saddened by it.:(

black rose
05/17/06, 02:15 PM
Interesting, I suspect there was something else going on here.

It'll be nice to say I saw them with their original lineup though! yea me too. i saw them on NFT so it'll be neat to be able to say that.

romantic rights
05/17/06, 02:15 PM
what did he play in the band?

calciumwaste
05/17/06, 02:15 PM
so that statement did not explain why he left, and i am very curious.

Hobby
05/17/06, 02:16 PM
Brent wrote the lyrics for Panic!, right?

black rose
05/17/06, 02:16 PM
what did he play in the band? bass.

sharpenup
05/17/06, 02:16 PM
Brent wrote the lyrics for Panic!, right?

no ryan did

black rose
05/17/06, 02:16 PM
Brent wrote the lyrics for Panic!, right? no, ryan does. the guitar player.

SummerxStars
05/17/06, 02:18 PM
05.17.2006
There really isn’t a good way to say this, and it was a decision that was very tough to make, but feels like it will be the right decision for everyone. We regret to inform you that Brent is no longer a part of Panic at the Disco, and although this choice does feel very healthy, he is a great friend of ours and he will definitely be missed. We all wish him well and the best of luck in everything he wants to do in the future.The last few years will be something we will never forget, all the places we’ve been that we never thought we’d go and things we’ve seen that we thought we’d never see when we started this band.
Right now our friend jon is going to be filling in, and I’m sure it would ease his nerves a bit to get a warm reception. We’re at home preparing for the summer tour, and we’ve never worked so hard on putting something together. I can’t tell you how excited we are for these shows and for you all to see what we’ve been planning, we’ve got a few tricks up our sleeves…just you wait.


- panic


Thats the statement for people who dont want to go to the website

thank god. i couldnt find this if my life depended on it

sharpenup
05/17/06, 02:18 PM
thank god. i couldnt find this if my life depended on it

all yo have to do is type in news
the website isnt really difficult at all

zizou1790
05/17/06, 02:20 PM
we’ve never worked so hard on putting something together


haha..

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 02:20 PM
all yo have to do is type in news
the website isnt really difficult at all
It's horrible, don't justify or give their designer any credit!! That will only encourage people to keep making shit like that.

zizou1790
05/17/06, 02:21 PM
Brent wrote the lyrics for Panic!, right?

no pete wentz did

when 4ever ends
05/17/06, 02:21 PM
:o

Suprhatch614
05/17/06, 02:21 PM
I think we should make a petition...you 'panic' have the worst website in the history of man.

Mike

when 4ever ends
05/17/06, 02:21 PM
no pete wentz did
and patrick sang right?

resUrectMe617
05/17/06, 02:22 PM
well, at least this means he has the opportunity join a good band now.

zizou1790
05/17/06, 02:22 PM
hahah im stuck in the living room on thier website

CHRISRIPPEDOUT
05/17/06, 02:22 PM
no pete wentz did
hahaha

CWeezer
05/17/06, 02:22 PM
summer tour oughta be interesting. i'm kind of disappointed.i hope the real story eventually surfaces. he was a major part of why i was even going to their show, he's a really nice guy.

garlicgirl1210
05/17/06, 02:23 PM
this is weird....and right before their headlining tour with the dresden dolls....bummer.
i suppose that somebody is going to say that they saw this coming because panic! is so young and stuff like this happens when bands are starting off.
regardless of all their success, they were still a relatively young band.
it is sad to hear nonetheless. and kind of weird.

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 02:25 PM
Which one was dating Jac? If it was him, then I can answer why this happend.

Hahaha..

/I am going to get in trouble for this post.

zizou1790
05/17/06, 02:25 PM
Jason why didnt u post my news i submitted about T-Barks new band?

boringpopsong
05/17/06, 02:26 PM
is that the one that was hella womanly looking?

fromwithin
05/17/06, 02:27 PM
Which one was dating Jac? If it was him, then I can answer why this happend.

Hahaha..

/I am going to get in trouble for this post.

if he did this for a girl, he's a fucking dumbass. either way, to leave this band is a crime.

thexflamesxburn
05/17/06, 02:27 PM
thank god. i couldnt find this if my life depended on it
hell no me neither

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 02:28 PM
Jason why didnt u post my news i submitted about T-Barks new band?
I don't go through the news submission box - ask a different staff member (and tell them I think they're assholes for not posting it).

FREEZE
05/17/06, 02:28 PM
this sounds like a poopie at the disco to me

zizou1790
05/17/06, 02:29 PM
I don't go through the news submission box - ask a different staff member (and tell them I think they're assholes for not posting it).

haha ok

ben pequeno
05/17/06, 02:29 PM
haha the web guy is gonna get pissed after reading the posts about the site sucking.

Take Heart
05/17/06, 02:29 PM
To be very un-PC.. was this the fat and overly strange looking person? Because if it turns out his replacement is a more "scene acceptable" thin normal looking guy.. i think the reasoning behind this will be very apparent. The way that they blew up, and as quickly as they did, made it seem like they were going to appeal to very young, impressionable girls to maximize their success.. and that guy didn't fit the mold.

sharpenup
05/17/06, 02:30 PM
It's horrible, don't justify or give their designer any credit!! That will only encourage people to keep making shit like that.

I know its horrible, but the navigation isnt what bothers me... its the time it takes to get around.

CaptRkDawg
05/17/06, 02:30 PM
i bet this going to be posted all over mtv news

phaedrus
05/17/06, 02:32 PM
they really don't need to replace him. the drummer doesn't play half of the drums and the synths are all piped in, i think they could just as easily prerecord the bass also. really the only person who needs to be there is the singer

ACA
05/17/06, 02:32 PM
Worst website ever.

FUCKING EVER.

-ACA

ACA
05/17/06, 02:34 PM
To be very un-PC.. was this the fat and overly strange looking person? Because if it turns out his replacement is a more "scene acceptable" thin normal looking guy.. i think the reasoning behind this will be very apparent. The way that they blew up, and as quickly as they did, made it seem like they were going to appeal to very young, impressionable girls to maximize their success.. and that guy didn't fit the mold.

I don't think that's the case, at all.

-ACA

*crying stars*
05/17/06, 02:34 PM
interesting. i concur that it doesn't really tell you what happened.

is that the one that was hella womanly looking?

no, the womanly looking one is the drummer. haha.

Take Heart
05/17/06, 02:35 PM
I don't think that's the case, at all.

-ACA

Why do you think it's so unrealistic? Labels have certainly forced members out of bands before, and that guy definitely doesn't fit the mold of the "emo sex symbol" the band is going for.

dontfront
05/17/06, 02:35 PM
bass players are replacable. unless you play in primus...

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 02:36 PM
they really don't need to replace him. the drummer doesn't play half of the drums and the synths are all piped in, i think they could just as easily prerecord the bass also. really the only person who needs to be there is the singer
I laughed out loud at this post. Well played.

:LOL:

Take Heart
05/17/06, 02:36 PM
bass players are replacable. unless you play in primus...

This is true, not many people can play stand-up bass while dressed as an 8 foot tall pig.

On a side note, that video (Mr. Krinkle?) still gives me nightmares.

bigmike
05/17/06, 02:36 PM
That is if you can browse the worst band website ever made.
i was just going to say that.
whoever designed that website should be shot. ridiculous.

FREEZE
05/17/06, 02:37 PM
they really don't need to replace him. the drummer doesn't play half of the drums and the synths are all piped in, i think they could just as easily prerecord the bass also. really the only person who needs to be there is the singer


is that true?? wow i really hate this band now

Take Heart
05/17/06, 02:38 PM
is that true?? wow i really hate this band now

They addressed this about a million times.. when they were on their first two tours, they couldn't afford someone to play the synth stuff live, so they just phoned it in.. They are going to employ someone to tour with them and do it on their upcoming headlining tour.

clarkeycats
05/17/06, 02:39 PM
maybe the bass player wanted to do that one move that fall out boy do onstage....ya know the one where they spin round very fast, you would have thought of a new move to do by now!......so they kicked him out 'there is no way we are gonna be like fall out boy...oh wait, to late'

phaedrus
05/17/06, 02:39 PM
I laughed out loud at this post. Well played.

:LOL:
i'll be here all weekend, and remember to tip your waitress (or waiter)

Take Heart
05/17/06, 02:41 PM
i was just going to say that.
whoever designed that website should be shot. ridiculous.

Don't forget to update that Pistons sig to 2-2 :headspin:

ACA
05/17/06, 02:42 PM
In Panic!'s defense, I watched some of KROQ Weenie Roast (but the video feed was horrendously glitchy) it looked like they're finally doing some of their synth live.

But yea, back when I saw them at Nintendo Fusion (free, woo), some guys came out and wrecked Panic!'s set.. knocked over all the drums, but somehow the drums kept on going....

-ACA

wiReZ
05/17/06, 02:44 PM
sigh, looks like another Fueled By Ramen publicity stunt... kind of like all that Pete Wentz bullshit drama.

Neptune
05/17/06, 02:46 PM
i wish everyone decided to leave that band. then they decided to all die in a plane crash.

Paul Tao
05/17/06, 02:47 PM
Which one was dating Jac? If it was him, then I can answer why this happend.

Hahaha..

/I am going to get in trouble for this post.
Hahaha I'm pretty sure that it's not him, although I can't be certain.

Take Heart
05/17/06, 02:49 PM
i wish everyone decided to leave that band. then they decided to all die in a plane crash.


And we all can hope you decide to leave this forum, moron.
Wishing death on a band, no matter how much you dislike them, places your value to society slightly below the Charmin Ultra i just finished wiping my ass with.

andenvelopes
05/17/06, 02:49 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b303/booomyourepasse/panic.jpg
This was necessary. Sorry.

CorporateFish
05/17/06, 02:49 PM
Wow, weird decision.

larokr
05/17/06, 02:49 PM
Wow. I'm not going to their summer tour, since Circa Survive's playing the same day as Panic are, but I've seen P!ATD twice and I just got sick of hearing the prerecorded synth. At least on the XBox 360 tour, Brendon played some piano, but not a lot. I wonder if this is similar to the whole Ben/Yellowcard thing, probably not. I'd like to hear the full story regardless.

melvicious
05/17/06, 02:49 PM
I'm never going to that website again.
& now a bunch of 14 yr old girls are going to have to cry themselves to sleep. Conclusion made after I stumbled across their myspace page.

ishotthepilot
05/17/06, 02:50 PM
Which one was dating Jac? If it was him, then I can answer why this happend.

Hahaha..

/I am going to get in trouble for this post.

NO haahaha. it's not Brent.

Take Heart
05/17/06, 02:52 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b303/booomyourepasse/panic.jpg
This was necessary. Sorry.

Ahaahahahahahahahhahaahahahhahahaha h
That is literally the hardest i have laughed this week. You rock.

Melie
05/17/06, 02:52 PM
Which one was dating Jac? If it was him, then I can answer why this happend.

Hahaha..

/I am going to get in trouble for this post.

that was ryan.
i watched the video of kroq with the new bassist. he doesn't fit the image. fire him.

zizou1790
05/17/06, 02:53 PM
sigh, looks like another Fueled By Ramen publicity stunt... kind of like all that Pete Wentz bullshit drama.

i hate stupid people

Pat Marquez
05/17/06, 02:55 PM
Why do you think it's so unrealistic? Labels have certainly forced members out of bands before, and that guy definitely doesn't fit the mold of the "emo sex symbol" the band is going for.
It is not unrealistic at all.....

shes.a.ghost
05/17/06, 02:56 PM
i wish everyone decided to leave that band. then they decided to all die in a plane crash.

I hope you are on the plane with them for that rediculous statement.

I used to like the band, but now they are just over played and the songs are annoying to me. They are still good songs though. I personally think that he was kicked out of the band because he just was not that great of a bassplayer. I thought he sounded sloppy live, and looks very strange. he does this rock from side to side thing. Anyways, I'm sure he did not quit the band... If he did I will be very suprised and confused.

Pat Marquez
05/17/06, 02:58 PM
I have heard numerous times that these guys didn't even know how to tune and set everything up. Squire works wonders....

Chriz2z
05/17/06, 02:59 PM
Brent was bass.

I didn't know they thanked AP.net and Acceptance in their liners.

AShannon04
05/17/06, 03:03 PM
Why do you think it's so unrealistic? Labels have certainly forced members out of bands before, and that guy definitely doesn't fit the mold of the "emo sex symbol" the band is going for.

Pat Stump isn't that good looking, but he's still in the band. They just make it so that Pete, the "pretty boy", is the face of the band. For Panic!, the bass player wasn't the frontman anyways, so I really doubt that's why he left.

Take Heart
05/17/06, 03:04 PM
Pat Stump isn't that good looking, but he's still in the band. They just make it so that Pete, the "pretty boy", is the face of the band. For Panic!, the bass player wasn't the frontman anyways, so I really doubt that's why he left.


Well, Patrick is the lead singer, so that's a different situation entirely. A bass player is much easier to replace than a singer.

shes.a.ghost
05/17/06, 03:07 PM
Pat Stump isn't that good looking, but he's still in the band. They just make it so that Pete, the "pretty boy", is the face of the band. For Panic!, the bass player wasn't the frontman anyways, so I really doubt that's why he left.

not true.

sure, patrick isnt hot... but he has a cool look to him. The bass player for panic is a different story, he is very strange looking. And who is "they" that are making pete the face of the band? not the labels. Because its been like that since they started the band. Pete is the face of fall out boy because he wants to be, and the rest of the band likes it that way. Not because he is better looking.

AShannon04
05/17/06, 03:08 PM
Well, Patrick is the lead singer, so that's a different situation entirely. A bass player is much easier to replace than a singer.

very true, but don't you think it's a little strange for the "main" guy in the band to be someone other than the lead singer? Bass players are usually in the background anyways, so it wouldn't be necessary to get rid of one bass player, even if he wasn't good looking, and replace him with another guy who noone will look at anyways.

I just think it's ridiculous to think that they got rid of him because of looks, especially because there have always been, and will always be, ugly and weird looking people in music.

fearthesloths
05/17/06, 03:10 PM
maybe the bass player wanted to do that one move that fall out boy do onstage....ya know the one where they spin round very fast, you would have thought of a new move to do by now!......so they kicked him out 'there is no way we are gonna be like fall out boy...oh wait, to late'

that was nowhere near as funny as you probably thought it was, nice job.


i doubt that they don't know how to tune... maybe not know exactly the best way to set things up for a big performance, but you CAN'T play guitar without knowing how to tune, in the time it takes to get the finger positions right and the finger strength to even look like they are playing their songs (im not saying they sych or anything, but if that were the case) there are a million rumours about this band, but it happens to any band that blows up

konstantine94
05/17/06, 03:11 PM
pete has always been the face of FOB. its cos he has a huge mouth.

Take Heart
05/17/06, 03:11 PM
very true, but don't you think it's a little strange for the "main" guy in the band to be someone other than the lead singer? Bass players are usually in the background anyways in the eyes of MTV and most magazines, so it wouldn't be necessary to get rid of one bass player, even if he wasn't good looking, and replace him with another guy who noone will look at anyways.

Well, think of.. The Beatles, or backstreet boys / 'n sync etc. This is more what i'm likening it to, it seems like the label (or the band, manager, who knows) is trying to make them into a band with that type of appeal

RCTweedley
05/17/06, 03:12 PM
Well, think of.. The Beatles, or backstreet boys / 'n sync etc. This is more what i'm likening it to, it seems like the label (or the band, manager, who knows) is trying to make them into a band with that type of appeal

FOB & P!ATD are the new Backstreet Boys/NSync

Pat Marquez
05/17/06, 03:13 PM
Well, Patrick is the lead singer, so that's a different situation entirely. A bass player is much easier to replace than a singer.
Very very true as well. See, the muisc biz is kind of shallow....

Pat Marquez
05/17/06, 03:14 PM
not true.

sure, patrick isnt hot... but he has a cool look to him. The bass player for panic is a different story, he is very strange looking. And who is "they" that are making pete the face of the band? not the labels. Because its been like that since they started the band. Pete is the face of fall out boy because he wants to be, and the rest of the band likes it that way. Not because he is better looking.
That is not true, trust me... I am sure the label is pushing for him to be the spokes person... I remember someone close to Cute Is What We Aim For told me that Janick wanted Shaant (head singer) to be secretive / sexy and dark, haha.

Come on, does Jack Marin fit that awful jocky image of October Fall? No.

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 03:15 PM
Well, think of.. The Beatles, or backstreet boys / 'n sync etc. This is more what i'm likening it to, it seems like the label (or the band, manager, who knows) is trying to make them into a band with that type of appeal
They've sold 500K copies of their CD on Fueled by Ramen, are on TRL, and are doing just fine financially ... I can almost promise you this is not an image thing at all. That's just absurd.

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 03:16 PM
That is not true, trust me... I am sure the label is pushing for him to be the spokes person... I remember someone close to Cute Is What We Aim For told me that Janick wanted Shaant (head singer) to be secretive / sexy and dark, haha.

Come on, does Jack Marin fit that awful jocky image of October Fall? No.
You have to find some way to sell CIWWAF because the music isn't going to do it for them.

Pat Marquez
05/17/06, 03:17 PM
Basically in life their is...

People that look like main actors
People that look like supporting actors
People that are casted because they are ugly
People that are casted because they are fat....

Look at most popular bands, for the most part, everyone is pretty attractive and they all fit a certain image.

shes.a.ghost
05/17/06, 03:17 PM
That is not true, trust me... I am sure the label is pushing for him to be the spokes person... I remember someone close to Cute Is What We Aim For told me that Janick wanted Shaant (head singer) to be secretive / sexy and dark, haha.

Come on, does Jack Marin fit that awful jocky image of October Fall? No.

doesnt mean that fall out boy is the same. If you have ever met pete, then you would understand. He is the only one with a voice on the internet... its not like the labels told him to start blogging all the time, or to start his own clothing line, or his own label... think about it. Its just the way he is, not because someone told him to.

singTHErequiem
05/17/06, 03:17 PM
Nah, Brent played the bass. He was always well reserved on stage. I have seen them o multiple occasions and the most I ever saw Brent do was sway back and forth.

Pat Marquez
05/17/06, 03:18 PM
They've sold 500K copies of their CD on Fueled by Ramen, are on TRL, and are doing just fine financially ... I can almost promise you this is not an image thing at all. That's just absurd.
Yeah, in this case I don't really think it was the image, if anything I thought the drummer was the goofiest looking. I mean, who knows, it could be the image...

kitkatsuperstar
05/17/06, 03:18 PM
FOB & P!ATD are the new Backstreet Boys/NSync

no way!! i don't believe that. couldn't be true.

AShannon04
05/17/06, 03:18 PM
But do you actually think that FBR is trying to mold Panic! into a certain band? If they wanted to do that, they'd probably have them do a different style of music than the somewhat unique genre of dance/pop-punk, and they wouldn't be wearing suits. Now I'm not saying these guys are 100% original or true to the scene, but it's ludicrous to think that a label started by the guys from Less Than Jake would pressure a band into kicking out one of its members because of his looks. I'm sure there are plenty of other issues that arose once they made it big that caused this.

black rose
05/17/06, 03:18 PM
i'm not sure why they did it.
obviously, because i'm just a 14 year old girl who loves music.
that doesn't get me very far in figuring this out.
but i'm sure it was for a good reason.
not because of image.
they are doing fine in the music business and brent wasn't holding them down in any way.

Take Heart
05/17/06, 03:20 PM
They've sold 500K copies of their CD on Fueled by Ramen, are on TRL, and are doing just fine financially ... I can almost promise you this is not an image thing at all. That's just absurd.

No.. that's my point, i guess i didn't express it well enough. They are doing "just fine" yes.. but i think this may have been seen as a stepping stone to make the push from a successful band to super-stardom. If the new member turns out to be a porky pie or something, i'll eat my words, but for now, that's my theory and i'm sticking to it.

MeltawayMints
05/17/06, 03:21 PM
Which one was dating Jac? If it was him, then I can answer why this happend.

Hahaha..

/I am going to get in trouble for this post.
you have to say more now you realize you gossip

Take Heart
05/17/06, 03:22 PM
But do you actually think that FBR is trying to mold Panic! into a certain band? If they wanted to do that, they'd probably have them do a different style of music than the somewhat unique genre of dance/pop-punk, and they wouldn't be wearing suits. Now I'm not saying these guys are 100% original or true to the scene, but it's ludicrous to think that a label started by the guys from Less Than Jake would pressure a band into kicking out one of its members because of his looks. I'm sure there are plenty of other issues that arose once they made it big that caused this.

Call me crazy, but haven't they all but signed to a major label already? I don't know how much control FBR still has over them. Plus, they are on Decaydance, which is owned by Pete, not FBR. (and yes, i realize it's an imprint of FBR, but he still runs it.)

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 03:22 PM
Basically in life their is...

People that look like main actors
People that look like supporting actors
People that are casted because they are ugly
People that are casted because they are fat....

Look at most popular bands, for the most part, everyone is pretty attractive and they all fit a certain image.
Who was the #1 selling band last week? RHCP.
The week before that? Tool.

Need we go on? Those dudes are not good looking.

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 03:22 PM
Call me crazy, but haven't they all but signed to a major label already? I don't know how much control FBR still has over them. Plus, they are on Decaydance, which is owned by Pete, not FBR. (and yes, i realize it's an imprint of FBR, but he still runs it.)
They're on Atlantic Records.

SellOuts
05/17/06, 03:23 PM
But do you actually think that FBR is trying to mold Panic! into a certain band? If they wanted to do that, they'd probably have them do a different style of music than the somewhat unique genre of dance/pop-punk, and they wouldn't be wearing suits. Now I'm not saying these guys are 100% original or true to the scene, but it's ludicrous to think that a label started by the guys from Less Than Jake would pressure a band into kicking out one of its members because of his looks. I'm sure there are plenty of other issues that arose once they made it big that caused this.


The FBR that Vinnie started about 10 years ago is nothing like the FBR today. He hardly does anything with the label now.

Pat Marquez
05/17/06, 03:25 PM
You have to find some way to sell CIWWAF because the music isn't going to do it for them.
Haha, for some reason I thought you were into them.

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 03:25 PM
The FBR that Vinnie started about 10 years ago is nothing like the FBR today. He hardly does anything with the label now.
I bet he collects a paycheck.

Why is this an image debate - HE WASN'T KICKED OUT OVER ANY "IMAGE" you people insinuating that are wrong.

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 03:25 PM
Haha, for some reason I thought you were into them.
WTF!?

Take Heart
05/17/06, 03:26 PM
Who was the #1 selling band last week? RHCP.
The week before that? Tool.

Need we go on? Those dudes are not good looking.

Those are also bands that are (and always have been) defined by their music, not their image. I think you, of all people, know that panic is (and always has been) 50% musicianship 50% image.

vegasbabyvegas
05/17/06, 03:26 PM
I have heard numerous times that these guys didn't even know how to tune and set everything up. Squire works wonders....

If by "everything" you mean a recording studio then you're probably correct, otherwise you're way off.

weworemasks
05/17/06, 03:26 PM
:o

did you get fired?

Brent was bass.

I didn't know they thanked AP.net and Acceptance in their liners.

acceptance took them on their first tour i think? im pretty sure though.

no way!! i don't believe that. couldn't be true.

wow.

SellOuts
05/17/06, 03:26 PM
I bet he collects a paycheck.

Why is this an image debate - HE WASN'T KICKED OUT OVER ANY "IMAGE" you people insinuating that are wrong.


Yea, 100% vinnie gets a pay check that is probably HUGEEEE.

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 03:28 PM
If by "everything" you mean a recording studio then you're probably correct, otherwise you're way off.
Actually, I heard the band couldn't even tune their own guitars when they went in to record - but I hear alot of "things" that go down at the Squire studio.

Pat Marquez
05/17/06, 03:28 PM
Who was the #1 selling band last week? RHCP.
The week before that? Tool.

Need we go on? Those dudes are not good looking.
Yeah that is a good point.. I'm not saying this just to argue.. but I have noticed as we continue on it has started to become about an image. I mean, I'm sure N'Sync and Backstreet Boys was all about image, and they sold pretty well at first But honestly the only one REALLY doing anything is Justin Timberlake, who is kick ass by the way.

Pat Marquez
05/17/06, 03:28 PM
I bet he collects a paycheck.

Why is this an image debate - HE WASN'T KICKED OUT OVER ANY "IMAGE" you people insinuating that are wrong.
I think you are correct though because if it really was about the image they would have kicked him out a long time ago.

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 03:30 PM
Those are also bands that are (and always have been) defined by their music, not their image. I think you, of all people, know that panic is (and always has been) 50% musicianship 50% image.
Panic! as always been 100% catchy dancy music. They were popular before ever playing a show or having more then a picture up anywhere. Their dancy catchy music is what sold them 40K their first week of a debut album - not their looks.

Take Heart
05/17/06, 03:30 PM
Actually, I heard the band couldn't even tune their own guitars when they went in to record - but I hear alot of "things" that go down at the Squire studio.

The #1 thing people need to know that goes down at the Squire studio: He is God.

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 03:31 PM
The #1 thing people need to know that goes down at the Squire studio: He is God.
And will lock you out if you annoy him ... haha.

Take Heart
05/17/06, 03:34 PM
And will lock you out if you annoy him ... haha.

oh while you're in this thread and i'm looking at your banner/avatar thinking about this.. I am in love with the Sherwood EP, and a friend of mine just told me they had a full length before this that is even better, do you concur? I haven't been able to find the CD anywhere around here, and i'm deciding whether it's worth it to track it down and buy it online

Hurleydude413
05/17/06, 03:37 PM
oh while you're in this thread and i'm looking at your banner/avatar thinking about this.. I am in love with the Sherwood EP, and a friend of mine just told me they had a full length before this that is even better, do you concur? I haven't been able to find the CD anywhere around here, and i'm deciding whether it's worth it to track it down and buy it online

You can get the CD on iTunes. I couldn't find it anywhere else, but their webstore. I didn't check smartpunk though.

SellOuts
05/17/06, 03:37 PM
Panic! as always been 100% catchy dancy music. They were popular before ever playing a show or having more then a picture up anywhere. Their dancy catchy music is what sold them 40K their first week of a debut album - not their looks.

Not to sound like a dick Jason but they sold about 10k there first week, which is still INSANE for a band that came out of nowhere

Jason Tate
05/17/06, 03:39 PM
Not to sound like a dick Jason but they sold about 10k there first week, which is still INSANE for a band that came out of nowhere
Eh, okay. My bad.. still. 10K and then another 10K the next two weeks.

Sorry.

Storybookhero
05/17/06, 03:39 PM
That is if you can browse the worst band website ever made.


that's an understatement

nicolerork
05/17/06, 03:40 PM
all yo have to do is type in news
the website isnt really difficult at all

you're wrong. as a graphic designer myself, i absolutely cannot stand that website. one of the most poorly designed and most non user-friendly sites i've ever been to.

heytheredelilah
05/17/06, 03:42 PM
everyone should thank acceptance in their liners.

SellOuts
05/17/06, 03:43 PM
Eh, okay. My bad.. still. 10K and then another 10K the next two weeks.

Sorry.


No need to be sorry. You're right though. Panic, unlike most bands who sales drop A LOT after the first week, kept going up and up and up in sales.

shtjames
05/17/06, 03:51 PM
It's horrible, don't justify or give their designer any credit!! That will only encourage people to keep making shit like that.

this website is indeed a large waste of time
i bet their new bass players all cuute and not fat and stuff

IcedOpethBlind
05/17/06, 03:54 PM
That is if you can browse the worst band website ever made.

yeah, srsly.

racethesun
05/17/06, 03:59 PM
that argument about the image thing was neat. well spent time.

ishotthepilot
05/17/06, 04:02 PM
I bet he collects a paycheck.

Why is this an image debate - HE WASN'T KICKED OUT OVER ANY "IMAGE" you people insinuating that are wrong.

because a lot of kids here are fucking shallow?

definitely one of the most pointless threads in AP history. well done.

atticusfinch
05/17/06, 04:03 PM
I hate the new video.

Good god.

azlisa
05/17/06, 04:20 PM
Which one was dating Jac? If it was him, then I can answer why this happend.

Hahaha..

/I am going to get in trouble for this post.

no. thats RYAN, the guitarist. and they broke up.

WarpSpeedChewy
05/17/06, 04:29 PM
Wow, didn't expact this. Very surprising news. Hopefully there will be more about it.

InochiSagashi
05/17/06, 04:34 PM
because a lot of kids here are fucking shallow?

definitely one of the most pointless threads in AP history. well done.

supjodie?!

and okay. bassist left band. alright. I highly doubt there's anything going on with image. It's not like Panic! is exempt from having internal conflicts.

The_New_Cancer
05/17/06, 04:38 PM
That's too bad. I'm guessing he left the band to go to college? Maybe I'm just being an idiot though. *shrug*

RandomHero1230
05/17/06, 04:38 PM
I've seen Panic! live twice, seen numerous videos of them, MET them, yet, I've never heard this dude talk.

1check_1love
05/17/06, 04:40 PM
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/903/ohnose9jx.jpg

resUrectMe617
05/17/06, 04:41 PM
yeah, while it was kind of unnecessary to go so in depth about the whole "image debate," i think its definitely something that is a possibility. to write it off would be stupid, or to say that the only reason why people think its a possibility is because they are shallow..is also not right. PATD is a business, a business relies a lot on its image and the way it is represented to the public, regardless of how much money they've made already.

i'm not saying it was an image issue, but it's not like we should be surprised if it was. i've got a few friends who were kicked out of [pretty well known] bands, by both the band and the label, for not "fitting".

Russ Hockenbury
05/17/06, 05:04 PM
Umm, if we're talking about band members that don't fit the image of "being in a band" let's look at the drummer for Say Anything. He looks like a shorter Ron Jeremy. There's nothing sexy about that.

Steve Henderson
05/17/06, 05:37 PM
Umm, if we're talking about band members that don't fit the image of "being in a band" let's look at the drummer for Say Anything. He looks like a shorter Ron Jeremy. There's nothing sexy about that.
Shall we not forget Claudio from C&C? That man is NASTY yet they plaster his face all over.

The Revisionist
05/17/06, 05:41 PM
Who cares, these guys are awful.

monicaaaa!
05/17/06, 05:42 PM
it took me like 20 minutes just to find the news on their site. complete waste of time.

it's a pretty cool idea..geuss, ..but really time consuming..

Butaire
05/17/06, 05:45 PM
good a member left hopefully they'll break up now

simonz
05/17/06, 05:55 PM
if he did this for a girl, he's a fucking dumbass. either way, to leave this band is a crime.

BEING IN THIS BAND IS A CRIME IN ITSELF

PopPunkKid
05/17/06, 05:59 PM
bass players are replacable. unless you play in primus...


Or Rancid, RHCP, Green Day, etc.

fight4urdemons
05/17/06, 06:17 PM
That sucks. They seem like nice guys.

Brenna
05/17/06, 06:46 PM
I don't get the feel that this move was an amicable split between Brent and the rest of the guys. I'm curious to see how this one pans out and to find out the real story.

jsim
05/17/06, 07:02 PM
That is if you can browse the worst band website ever made.
word

Jenn23
05/17/06, 07:15 PM
He didn't leave by choice. And like others have said, his departure had nothing to do with image.

Jon Walker, who is filling in and played the KROQ Weenie Roast this past weekend, used to play in 504 Plan.

straylighthaste
05/17/06, 07:34 PM
the drummer is next to go!

HeadSock
05/17/06, 07:37 PM
hahah im stuck in the living room on thier website

I dont know why, but this made me laugh hysterically.

TheCaptain
05/17/06, 07:55 PM
thank god. i couldnt find this if my life depended on it

i actually typed in "sink" and it took me directly to the kitchen, where there were notes on the fridge. luckily, those were the news. lucky me.

sleepless1
05/17/06, 07:57 PM
To be very un-PC.. was this the fat and overly strange looking person? Because if it turns out his replacement is a more "scene acceptable" thin normal looking guy.. i think the reasoning behind this will be very apparent. The way that they blew up, and as quickly as they did, made it seem like they were going to appeal to very young, impressionable girls to maximize their success.. and that guy didn't fit the mold.

nah, that probably isn't the reason. if that were true, they most likely would have taken care of it when they signed to warner bros. there are plenty of artists out there that are selling as many units or more as panic, fall out boy for example, (patrick stump.) he may have the whole lead singer thing going for him, but other than that if it werent for his band i'm not sure too many ladies would give him the time of day, no offence.

but nontheless it's sad to see brent go, he was really the only one to be getting into the music when i saw them live, but this band has barley been a real band for even a year yet, these kinds of things happen in artist development.

B_0202
05/17/06, 08:09 PM
He didn't leave by choice.

you know something? expand for us, please

TENCopeland
05/17/06, 08:19 PM
i just wanted to echo everyone else's sentiments: worst website ever.

Matt_Dizzle
05/17/06, 08:22 PM
i just wanted to echo everyone else's sentiments: worst website ever.

I Second That.

MisterChanesaw
05/17/06, 08:22 PM
Anthony from RHCP is sort of a dreamboat.

ironlionOROKU
05/17/06, 08:23 PM
That is if you can browse the worst band website ever made.

that website makes me want to vomit all over my keyboard and or smash my monitor

youareallfreaks
05/17/06, 08:27 PM
the site would be better if you could walk around in it with a gun, and shoot things. oh yeah, and explosive scenery. gotta have explosive scenery.


they booted him cause he's a fatty. and you know panic's rule on fatties . . . no fatties.

worstrevenge
05/17/06, 09:13 PM
What everyone seems to be forgetting, is that Panic! sent their demos to Pete Wentz(s) lj or something. Pete jumped at the idea to sign them because a.) they fit the oh so glorious sound of FBR/Decaydance. b.) Pete Wentz could do whatever he pleases with these kids because they had no idea how to manage a band. (THEY GOT SIGNED BEFORE EVEN PLAYING A SHOW!!!) The possibilites of the reason this kid left are as follows:

a. He wasn't ready for the 'rockstar' life. He's a young kid, homesick.

b. Labels do have control over who stays and who goes. Example: The Audition, I bet half you kids don't even know the story behind that. Like how half the hits on that CD were all written by the original singer by the name of EVO. And Bob (The Hush Sound) was forced to sign over all rights to his songs. Labels have that type of control. (If you want more on The Audition case, leave me a reply and we'll talk.)

c. This is Pete Wentz(s) little creation. He played God. And his 'son' is getting as big..if not could be bigger than FOB. Pete might be jealous that Panic! is always number one on purevolume. And we all know Pete...the spotlight is his.

or

d. this is just a way to get more attention to that band. They blew up over the internet. Now that they aren't currently on tour, they need to remind the fans that 'Hey! Panic! is a still around.' Because they are a fly by night band. I wouldn't be surprised if CD sales start going up a lil' more for these kids because people think it'll be a classic or something to own the original copy with the original bass player...

wow. FBR is a cult!

XpunkXroutineX
05/17/06, 09:28 PM
That sites annoying. I know they probably wanted something different but..thats not, that's annoying. Couldn't they have like a block of cheese with holes in it and then you click on the holes and it's a link to some other section? I don't know. Cheese hurts my feelings.

jtrocka182
05/17/06, 09:32 PM
well, at least this means he has the opportunity join a good band now.

haha agreed

topsecret
05/17/06, 09:32 PM
am i the only one hoping this kid laid pipe all across the country. blow & sluts everywhere. i'm sure he can live off myspace whores for at least a year. tear that shit up kid.

youareallfreaks
05/17/06, 11:11 PM
What everyone seems to be forgetting, is that Panic! sent their demos to Pete Wentz(s) lj or something. Pete jumped at the idea to sign them because a.) they fit the oh so glorious sound of FBR/Decaydance. b.) Pete Wentz could do whatever he pleases with these kids because they had no idea how to manage a band. (THEY GOT SIGNED BEFORE EVEN PLAYING A SHOW!!!) The possibilites of the reason this kid left are as follows:

a. He wasn't ready for the 'rockstar' life. He's a young kid, homesick.

b. Labels do have control over who stays and who goes. Example: The Audition, I bet half you kids don't even know the story behind that. Like how half the hits on that CD were all written by the original singer by the name of EVO. And Bob (The Hush Sound) was forced to sign over all rights to his songs. Labels have that type of control. (If you want more on The Audition case, leave me a reply and we'll talk.)

c. This is Pete Wentz(s) little creation. He played God. And his 'son' is getting as big..if not could be bigger than FOB. Pete might be jealous that Panic! is always number one on purevolume. And we all know Pete...the spotlight is his.

or

d. this is just a way to get more attention to that band. They blew up over the internet. Now that they aren't currently on tour, they need to remind the fans that 'Hey! Panic! is a still around.' Because they are a fly by night band. I wouldn't be surprised if CD sales start going up a lil' more for these kids because people think it'll be a classic or something to own the original copy with the original bass player...

wow. FBR is a cult!


a, c, and d are retarded.

youareallfreaks
05/17/06, 11:12 PM
am i the only one hoping this kid laid pipe all across the country. blow & sluts everywhere. i'm sure he can live off myspace whores for at least a year. tear that shit up kid.

"laid pipe" "blow & sluts"


you need to post here more.

apl.Tyler
05/17/06, 11:20 PM
That is if you can browse the worst band website ever made.

i concur... the site looks cool and all but navigation and user friendly are not exactly good ways to describe the site... dear god. lol

thewebguy
05/18/06, 12:28 AM
man some of you guys are morons.. yes the site is different than most but give me a break.

there is some text that says "where would you like to go?"

next to it is a box to type in that says "type desired destination here"

next to that is a "?" button. when you move the mouse over said button it gives a list of available destinations to type in.

obviously this isn't the easiest site to navigate or anything but at least it isn't some stolen clipart of a bunch of crazy crap (which i would assume the cd cover is) or a ton of splats and downloaded fonts and photoshop brushes.

and NO i didn't make it, i only dealt with admin section. greg at goat farm design (http://www.goatfarmdesign.com) did, and yes while it is a bit hard to get the hang of, it is pretty amazing. there are literally hundreds of comments on the book club from 14 y/o girls who seem to have figured out how to navigate the site.

thewebguy
05/18/06, 12:41 AM
lol this post was way too stupid.. my fault for posting at quarter to 4

thewebguy
05/18/06, 12:48 AM
haha the web guy is gonna get pissed after reading the posts about the site sucking.

lol i read this thread backwards so i just got to your post now, and man you're like a psychic or something.. but yeah see above posts - i didn't make the site.

weworemasks
05/18/06, 01:22 AM
the site would be better if you could walk around in it with a gun, and shoot things. oh yeah, and explosive scenery. gotta have explosive scenery.


they booted him cause he's a fatty. and you know panic's rule on fatties . . . no fatties.
drummer is fatter and "less attractive" in my opinion.

j011y
05/18/06, 05:23 AM
What everyone seems to be forgetting, is that Panic! sent their demos to Pete Wentz(s) lj or something. Pete jumped at the idea to sign them because a.) they fit the oh so glorious sound of FBR/Decaydance. b.) Pete Wentz could do whatever he pleases with these kids because they had no idea how to manage a band. (THEY GOT SIGNED BEFORE EVEN PLAYING A SHOW!!!) The possibilites of the reason this kid left are as follows:

a. He wasn't ready for the 'rockstar' life. He's a young kid, homesick.

b. Labels do have control over who stays and who goes. Example: The Audition, I bet half you kids don't even know the story behind that. Like how half the hits on that CD were all written by the original singer by the name of EVO. And Bob (The Hush Sound) was forced to sign over all rights to his songs. Labels have that type of control. (If you want more on The Audition case, leave me a reply and we'll talk.)

c. This is Pete Wentz(s) little creation. He played God. And his 'son' is getting as big..if not could be bigger than FOB. Pete might be jealous that Panic! is always number one on purevolume. And we all know Pete...the spotlight is his.

or

d. this is just a way to get more attention to that band. They blew up over the internet. Now that they aren't currently on tour, they need to remind the fans that 'Hey! Panic! is a still around.' Because they are a fly by night band. I wouldn't be surprised if CD sales start going up a lil' more for these kids because people think it'll be a classic or something to own the original copy with the original bass player...

wow. FBR is a cult!

you sound clever, i like your thoughts/facts :)

rorytws
05/18/06, 05:46 AM
reading the conspiracy theories on people leaving bands and whatnot is very enjoyable. i think the government controls music from the indie labels upwards.

starz n shine
05/18/06, 08:26 AM
05.17.2006
There really isn’t a good way to say this, and it was a decision that was very tough to make, but feels like it will be the right decision for everyone. We regret to inform you that Brent is no longer a part of Panic at the Disco, and although this choice does feel very healthy, he is a great friend of ours and he will definitely be missed. We all wish him well and the best of luck in everything he wants to do in the future.The last few years will be something we will never forget, all the places we’ve been that we never thought we’d go and things we’ve seen that we thought we’d never see when we started this band.
Right now our friend jon is going to be filling in, and I’m sure it would ease his nerves a bit to get a warm reception. We’re at home preparing for the summer tour, and we’ve never worked so hard on putting something together. I can’t tell you how excited we are for these shows and for you all to see what we’ve been planning, we’ve got a few tricks up our sleeves…just you wait.


- panic


Thats the statement for people who dont want to go to the website

Thanks for posting it. I have no idea how to work that website it is like a puzzle lmao.

starz n shine
05/18/06, 08:27 AM
thank god. i couldnt find this if my life depended on it

Exactly!

GQMike of TSPR
05/18/06, 11:16 AM
I'm sure this is an overdramitization and someone bitter, but it's some insight into what the reasoning was for Brent being kicked out.

"Brent Wilson was recently kicked out of Panic! at the disco for far less than significant reasons. Ryan, Spencer, and Brendan all elected to replace Brent with a kid named Jon. This kid in not even an official band member. They did this because they do not want to pay Brent as a full time band member. These "used" to be Brent's best friends and they sold him out to the media, fame, and money. What a bunch of degenerates. I will never listen to another Panic! record as long as I live. FUCK PANIC!!!!!!!"

- Blake Wilson, brother of Brent Wilson (former Panic! at the Disco bassist)

starz n shine
05/18/06, 11:29 AM
I'm sure this is an overdramitization and someone bitter, but it's some insight into what the reasoning was for Brent being kicked out.

"Brent Wilson was recently kicked out of Panic! at the disco for far less than significant reasons. Ryan, Spencer, and Brendan all elected to replace Brent with a kid named Jon. This kid in not even an official band member. They did this because they do not want to pay Brent as a full time band member. These "used" to be Brent's best friends and they sold him out to the media, fame, and money. What a bunch of degenerates. I will never listen to another Panic! record as long as I live. FUCK PANIC!!!!!!!"

- Blake Wilson, brother of Brent Wilson (former Panic! at the Disco bassist)

Where was that posted?

myfirstpunksong
05/18/06, 12:02 PM
It's horrible, don't justify or give their designer any credit!! That will only encourage people to keep making shit like that.
Hahah true. I did find news by typing in news, but that was kinda luck. That website is shit.

screamoutmyname
05/18/06, 12:05 PM
They've been a band for what... a year at the most?

worstrevenge
05/18/06, 12:53 PM
you sound clever, i like your thoughts/facts :)

At least someone understands my view points. They aren't all that retarded.

RandomHero1230
05/18/06, 12:58 PM
drummer is fatter and "less attractive" in my opinion.

false. he's super skinny now.

Russ Hockenbury
05/18/06, 01:51 PM
false. he's super skinny now.

It's called meth and it can work for you, too. I

So_It_Said
05/18/06, 02:03 PM
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofi le&friendID=8237602

Here is the link to Brents brothers Myspace

_kelly
05/18/06, 03:20 PM
it sucks that he isnt in panic! anymore
but until theres actually something directly from him or the band that says why he left/got kicked out, i think its sorta dumb to speculate why he isnt in the band anymore

weworemasks
05/18/06, 03:27 PM
false. he's super skinny now.

seriously?
hahahahaha. he looks bloated on the ap cover.

Dgriffith
05/18/06, 04:28 PM
It's horrible, don't justify or give their designer any credit!! That will only encourage people to keep making shit like that.

Sorry Mr T you may have to be little more intelligent to use a real web site....that is the best site out right now it may take more brains use it than your used to...typing words into that search bar might be a stretch for Jason.

weworemasks
05/18/06, 10:00 PM
Sorry Mr T you may have to be little more intelligent to use a real web site....that is the best site out right now it may take more brains use it than your used to...typing words into that search bar might be a stretch for Jason.

finally the designer shows up.
well if in fact you are the designer....this is the most poorly constructed site in the history of the internet.
it LOOKS cool, it just isn't.

Suchasucker
05/19/06, 12:00 AM
bass players are replacable. unless you play in primus...
Or Red Hot Chili Peppers.

And for the 4000th time I'm sure, THEIR WEBSITE BLOWS!

It's a cool concept, but fucking worthless as a band website (resource).

Back to the original topic though, this would probably also explain why I only saw the 3 band members walking around together at Bamboozle.