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MLLMillenium
05/17/06, 09:17 PM
Anyone who hoped sony might drop the price at all, think again.
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/17/kutaragi-playstation-3-is-too-cheap/

In a disturbing twist, Ken Kutaragi has gone on record stating that the PlayStation 3's $600 price tag is "too cheap."
Hahaha, that's just insane. It is ridiculous, I can't wait to see how much things like the Eye toy, controllers and games will cost now. Hahaha, so ridiculous.

Haha I love this. Cocky much?

Kutaragi also took the opportunity to address the launch shipment figures Sony is targeting—2 million units at launch, 4 million by year-end, 6 million by March 2007. Some in the industry have been skeptical that Sony can pull this off, but Kutaragi insisted that barring natural disasters Sony would definitely meet this goal.

"Of course, this is a number that we announced having made sure we can definitely prepare it. There is the possibility of unexpected problems like earthquake or theft, so I won't say it's absolute, but if this type of trouble does not occur, there's no problem with this number," he said.
Taken from a more complete version of it.
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=12684

Saves The Night
05/17/06, 09:29 PM
yeah, sony is fucking lame, i always kinda hoped they would go bankrupt and soon...

Freud
05/17/06, 09:29 PM
the earth goes rumble rumble and *gasp* all PS3's dissapear. ohnoes. but actually, it is too cheap, considering all the hardware and technology being put into it.

Wii have a price yet?? :(

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 09:33 PM
the Blu-Ray dvd player alone is enough to make it 600 dollars you fools, look at what you're getting before you comment on the price

Freud
05/17/06, 09:35 PM
the Blu-Ray dvd player alone is enough to make it 600 dollars you fools, look at what you're getting before you comment on the price
exactly. thats what i said. were actually getting a good deal considering all the hardware costs.

Anton Djamoos
05/17/06, 09:36 PM
the Blu-Ray dvd player alone is enough to make it 600 dollars you fools, look at what you're getting before you comment on the price
Haha. That's what people were saying about UMD discs.

Anton Djamoos
05/17/06, 09:37 PM
exactly. thats what i said. were actually getting a good deal considering all the hardware costs.
First off, you have no idea what's going to happen with Blu-Ray. With the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray format war approaching, it can go either way. Both have their positives.

Most people don't want to pay $600 for a gaming console. Yes, you're getting A LOT of stuff with it, but the fact is that you're paying as much as you would for the Wii60 combo.

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 09:42 PM
First off, you have no idea what's going to happen with Blu-Ray. With the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray format war approaching, it can go either way. Both have their positives.

Most people don't want to pay $600 for a gaming console. Yes, you're getting A LOT of stuff with it, but the fact is that you're paying as much as you would for the Wii60 combo.

ok, yes there is going to be format war but if you have the PS3 that pretty much decides what your households prefrence will be. I agree that the price is steep, but i mean come on is this not to be expected? for those who want it, save your cash, for those who dont want to spend that much then get a Wii

Freud
05/17/06, 09:44 PM
First off, you have no idea what's going to happen with Blu-Ray. With the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray format war approaching, it can go either way. Both have their positives.

Most people don't want to pay $600 for a gaming console. Yes, you're getting A LOT of stuff with it, but the fact is that you're paying as much as you would for the Wii60 combo.
thats where people are dumb. youre not paying $600 bucks for just a gaming console. youre paying that much for an entertainment system which includes a gaming device.

but i agree. no one knows whats going to happen with the blu-ray. but that still doesnt excuse the fact that thats one of the main reasons of it being so damn expensive.

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 09:47 PM
thats where people are dumb. youre not paying $600 bucks for just a gaming console. youre paying that much for an entertainment system which includes a gaming device.

but i agree. no one knows whats going to happen with the blu-ray. but that still doesnt excuse the fact that thats one of the main reasons of it being so damn expensive.

precisely, if you look at everything that is included the buyer is making out like a bandit! a new dvd player, a new sleek sexy game console (yes apperance is important), a quality company that hasnt disappointed in the past, and probably get third party support for the system. It's a win-win, now if only sony could get their online plan up and running and compete win Xbox Live then it will be unstoppable

MLLMillenium
05/17/06, 09:48 PM
the Blu-Ray dvd player alone is enough to make it 600 dollars you fools, look at what you're getting before you comment on the price

Look who you're talking to before you comment, as if I didn't realize that. This guy is off his fucking rocker, he is putting out a gaming system which will run on a format that is not a definite standard for the future, making the system and games much more expensive than they have to be. I agree with what the article says that he is using the Playstation name to get Blueray into the homes of people.

I mean 600 dollars is still fucking absurd, usually when I want to buy a product I don't want the maker to act like people who can't afford it are not good enough for it. I also don't want them acting cocky and superior telling people to get a second job to afford the price which he was once quoted on. He was also quoted saying he was getting gaming out of the ghetto and if I can find it, it basically says that its for people who actually have the money not the lesser people who don't. Hes a cunt bag.

Freud
05/17/06, 09:50 PM
precisely, if you look at everything that is included the buyer is making out like a bandit! a new dvd player, a new sleek sexy game console (yes apperance is important), a quality company that hasnt disappointed in the past, and probably get third party support for the system. It's a win-win, now if only sony could get their online plan up and running and compete win Xbox Live then it will be unstoppable
and dont forget the ability to play almost every single cd format, the ability to read all sorts of memory sticks, etc.

Darren McLeod
05/17/06, 09:50 PM
people will not be convinced to jump into blu-ray this fast. if it came out a year from now, possibly. but nobody in the average user market knows what the fuck blu-ray is, and they are content with DVD. at least when PS2 came out, DVD had made a name for itself already.

MLLMillenium
05/17/06, 09:50 PM
precisely, if you look at everything that is included the buyer is making out like a bandit! a new dvd player, a new sleek sexy game console (yes apperance is important), a quality company that hasnt disappointed in the past, and probably get third party support for the system. It's a win-win, now if only sony could get their online plan up and running and compete win Xbox Live then it will be unstoppable

Are you kidding me the PS3 is possibly the ugliest system I have ever seen it's not sleek at all, the online system will probably blow, they are organizing it the same way they did it with the PS2 and PSP. It won't touch Xbox Live neither will Nintendo's.

Darren McLeod
05/17/06, 09:52 PM
also, a quality company that hasn't disappointed in the past?

tell that to the thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands) of people with PSXs, PSPs, and PS2s that stopped working properly within a year or two of purchase.

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 09:55 PM
Look who you're talking to before you comment, as if I didn't realize that. This guy is off his fucking rocker, he is putting out a gaming system which will run on a format that is not a definite standard for the future, making the system and games much more expensive than they have to be. I agree with what the article says that he is using the Playstation name to get Blueray into the homes of people.

I mean 600 dollars is still fucking absurd, usually when I want to buy a product I don't want the maker to act like people who can't afford it are not good enough for it. I also don't want them acting cocky and superior telling people to get a second job to afford the price which he was once quoted on. He was also quoted saying he was getting gaming out of the ghetto and if I can find it, it basically says that its for people who actually have the money not the lesser people who don't. Hes a cunt bag.

ok, well i am not defending him, i had no idea about those comments and thats not right, but the fact of the matter is new technology is always gonna cost alot more than it probably should. As far as getting "gaming out of the ghetto" that is just absurd, i dont defend him but i do not have a problem with a system costing that much simply because of what the buyer will recieve.

Think of a microwave, if you have a microwave that just cooks food as opposed to a microwave that will unpackage the food, put it in a bowl, and then cook it for you, which would cost more? it's all about features

Wii is affordable because it has relatively nothing additional with it which has always been Nintendo's thought process. I respect Nintendo so much for sticking with just the gaming and thats why they will always be my favorite. Sony just knows what will sell and what wont and including a DVD player along with their system like they did with the PS2(i know alot of people who loved the 2 for 1 deal) is going to sell alot more systems,

MLLMillenium
05/17/06, 09:56 PM
also, a quality company that hasn't disappointed in the past?

tell that to the thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands) of people with PSXs, PSPs, and PS2s that stopped working properly within a year or two of purchase.

It's been shown before that sony makes a huge profit of their system sales becuase of the amount of systems people have to rebuy.

Freud
05/17/06, 09:56 PM
my microwave delivers warm toasty blowjobs.

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 09:57 PM
also, a quality company that hasn't disappointed in the past?

tell that to the thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands) of people with PSXs, PSPs, and PS2s that stopped working properly within a year or two of purchase.

Yes, but that is going to happen with most systems, Xbox had alot of problems out the shoot and so did 360, problems get fixed

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 09:58 PM
my microwave delivers warm toasty blowjobs.

do they have those at Best Buy?

Anton Djamoos
05/17/06, 09:58 PM
also, a quality company that hasn't disappointed in the past?

tell that to the thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands) of people with PSXs, PSPs, and PS2s that stopped working properly within a year or two of purchase.
Haha I wanted to go there but you beat me to it.

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 10:04 PM
but you know what, whatever, its not worth arguing about, i'm just fired up tonight. All the systems have their advantages and disadvantages, it's about which one appeals to the gamer the most

I would love to see Nintendo make a comeback this year.

Freud
05/17/06, 10:05 PM
do they have those at Best Buy?
circuit city, son.

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 10:07 PM
circuit city, son.

hahah o ok

MLLMillenium
05/17/06, 10:15 PM
ok, well i am not defending him, i had no idea about those comments and thats not right, but the fact of the matter is new technology is always gonna cost alot more than it probably should. As far as getting "gaming out of the ghetto" that is just absurd, i dont defend him but i do not have a problem with a system costing that much simply because of what the buyer will recieve.

Think of a microwave, if you have a microwave that just cooks food as opposed to a microwave that will unpackage the food, put it in a bowl, and then cook it for you, which would cost more? it's all about features

Wii is affordable because it has relatively nothing additional with it which has always been Nintendo's thought process. I respect Nintendo so much for sticking with just the gaming and thats why they will always be my favorite. Sony just knows what will sell and what wont and including a DVD player along with their system like they did with the PS2(i know alot of people who loved the 2 for 1 deal) is going to sell alot more systems,
The problem I have with that is what happens if Blueray is a fucking bomb. Its a huge gamble, how you feel if you went out spent all that fucking cash on a PS3 then on the more expensive games just because they want to try and force their new format. Then it fails like the fucking betamax. SO what now? You are going to have a system that runs on failed technology and it will only become more expenisive. It's a ridiculously expensive risk that doesnt offer a much better experiance that the Xbox 360.

MLLMillenium
05/17/06, 10:17 PM
Yes, but that is going to happen with most systems, Xbox had alot of problems out the shoot and so did 360, problems get fixed

We arent talking about defective launch consoles. We are talking about an ongoing problem that sony has with all of their hardware. Throughout it's lifetime.

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 10:17 PM
The problem I have with that is what happens if Blueray is a fucking bomb. Its a huge gamble, how you feel if you went out spent all that fucking cash on a PS3 then on the more expensive games just because they want to try and force their new format. Then it fails like the fucking betamax. SO what now? You are going to have a system that runs on failed technology and it will only become more expenisive. It's a ridiculously expensive risk that doesnt offer a much better experiance that the Xbox 360.

yes, but i have a feeling Sony isnt dumb enough to gamble the lead in the console wars away on blue-ray, they must know something

Anton Djamoos
05/17/06, 10:20 PM
The problem I have with that is what happens if Blueray is a fucking bomb
The easiest way to find this out is to go ask someone who owns a PSP how they feel about their purchase.

Anton Djamoos
05/17/06, 10:21 PM
yes, but i have a feeling Sony isnt dumb enough to gamble the lead in the console wars away on blue-ray, they must know something
I reiterate...PSP.

MLLMillenium
05/17/06, 10:27 PM
yes, but i have a feeling Sony isnt dumb enough to gamble the lead in the console wars away on blue-ray, they must know something
They don't know anything. They just think that they can do whatever they want and people will buy it.

Edit: I love your last.fm picture. Thats sick.

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 10:28 PM
I reiterate...PSP.

every company has a flop, I could use Gamecube as an example of something that flopped that isnt sony. Nintendo made a huge gamble by not supporting the online gaming craze. I wouldnt deem that system a success by any means

MLLMillenium
05/17/06, 10:30 PM
every company has a flop, I could use Gamecube as an example of something that flopped that isnt sony. Nintendo made a huge gamble by not supporting the online gaming craze. I wouldnt deem that system a success by any means

The diffrence is that the gamecube wasn't ridiculously expensive, and from a bussiness standpoint, they made gigantic profits off of it. Since nintendo knows how to create a system they can sell and make a profit with.

Anton Djamoos
05/17/06, 10:32 PM
every company has a flop, I could use Gamecube as an example of something that flopped that isnt sony. Nintendo made a huge gamble by not supporting the online gaming craze. I wouldnt deem that system a success by any means
Yes I know. But Sony was gambling with a new format and it has failed. We didn't know beforehand whether the UMD would take off or not and it hasn't, unfortunately for PSP owners. PS3 buyers are making the same gamble.

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 10:32 PM
They don't know anything. They just think that they can do whatever they want and people will buy it.

Edit: I love your last.fm picture. Thats sick.

haha thank you, i like it alot

Anton Djamoos
05/17/06, 10:33 PM
haha thank you, i like it alot
Yeah I was thinking the same thing earlier; it's really cool.

LostSymphonies
05/17/06, 10:49 PM
lets just all agree that Nintendo is going to a force to reckon with, i plan on getting a Wii and PS3

Freud
05/17/06, 10:53 PM
lets just all agree that Nintendo is going to a force to reckon with, i plan on getting a Wii and PS3
same here.

Web250
05/17/06, 11:11 PM
Look who you're talking to before you comment, as if I didn't realize that. This guy is off his fucking rocker, he is putting out a gaming system which will run on a format that is not a definite standard for the future, making the system and games much more expensive than they have to be. I agree with what the article says that he is using the Playstation name to get Blueray into the homes of people.

I mean 600 dollars is still fucking absurd, usually when I want to buy a product I don't want the maker to act like people who can't afford it are not good enough for it. I also don't want them acting cocky and superior telling people to get a second job to afford the price which he was once quoted on. He was also quoted saying he was getting gaming out of the ghetto and if I can find it, it basically says that its for people who actually have the money not the lesser people who don't. Hes a cunt bag.
Christian rocks my socks.

SingleDoubt
05/18/06, 07:08 AM
Yes, you're getting A LOT of stuff with it, but the fact is that you're paying as much as you would for the Wii60 combo.
Wii60 combo? what's that all about? never heard of it. please inform!

DroppedUrPocket
05/18/06, 08:01 AM
Wii60 combo? what's that all about? never heard of it. please inform!
Cost of 360 + cost of Wii = close to the cost of a PS3 = Wii60.

Anton Djamoos
05/18/06, 08:15 AM
Cost of 360 + cost of Wii = close to the cost of a PS3 = Wii60.
There you go.