All We Are...

[Frank Giaramita]

Angels And Airwaves (www.angelsandairwaves.com) entire new album, We Don't Need To Whisper, can be streamed on Myspace.com (http://www.myspace.com/angelsandairwaves). The disc hits shelves next Tuesday, May 23rd (http://www.absolutepunk.net/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=464&c=3).

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[Manbotisdead]

i like how first impressions is quoted.

[ParisInFlames55]

second comment...opinion to be added later after work.

[Frank Giaramita]

i like how first impressions is quoted.
Hahaha. Well, with all due respect, I'd be overestimating the morality of most music fans by assuming this was their first time hearing this album.

[mrzippo3]

i like how first impressions is quoted.

ha, yeah, seriously.. It's a decent record, if you like U2 rip offs and the last Blink record

[nfgdragon]

it's also been leaked on bittoret sites.

pretty good if you ask me.

[ironlionOROKU]

hmmm what does hype sound like?

[Gitch]

this seems like something I would wanna listen to on a rainy day. Very mellow indeed. I will definitely be picking this up along with halifax and less than jake on tuesday.

[Gitch]

Hahaha. Well, with all due respect, I'd be overestimating the morality of most music fans by assuming this was their first time hearing this album.

amazingly enough I held strong I this is the first time I listened to it. Also the goo goo in your sig is a very nice touch. It's been spinning in my truck for weeks for now non stop

[itsjdiggity]

it's up there on my list with Let Love In

[etwiels]

The first time I listened to it a while back I thought it was awful. This second time, I think it still seems just as contrived. The lyrics are weak for this kind of music and the samples are nonessential and overused. Nothing about this is very good in my opinion...However, the dude did hype the shit out of this band and I'm sure they'll be very successful, but it's definitely not my thing.

[Frank Giaramita]

My first impression of the record is:

The instrumentals remind me a lot of U2-- I am a big U2 fan, however, I don't think Tom's voice sounds fitting over instrumentals such as these. Generally speaking, his melodies and vocal tone sound out of place and un-parallel to the style of the isntrumentals and I think I'd actually prefer the record without any vocals at all. I think the intro and breakdown to Valkeyrie Missle are absolutely incredible, but I feel they are tainted a bit by Tom's verse and chorus melodies. There are some songs, like "Distraction" and "The Gift", where I think Tom sounds very fitting... I still love the guys voice, I just think he missed his niche a little.

[leftstranded]

i can finally give this cd the proper listening. hope it's as good as the blink stuff, but i doubt it.

[theESCO]

And they're in the commercial for tonights OC...fuck yea.

[waggy]

well my first impression was kinda "meh", great music but the vocals are pretty boring and don't really fit the style of music. however, that first impression was about a month ago, and since then the album has grown on me a lot. so yeah, i'd say the great "angels and airwaves experiment" was a success but i'd trade it for a reunited blink in a second.

[ReturningSunday]

I really enjoy this record. Right now my favorite track is "Do It For Me Now" but like most people, I'd much rather have a new Blink album.

[jklo16]

it's growing on me. the instrumentation is excellent, and I can respect that Tom is trying to send a different message to his fans. Sadly, I think the "hype" that he gave this band prior to the albums release will hurt peoples opinion of it. It's good, solid, music.....but my life hasn't changed yet. Despite this, I still will be picking it up.

[TBSowns524]

Angels In Airwaves (http://www.angelsandairwaves.com) entire new album, We Don't Need To Whisper, can be streamed on Myspace.com (http://www.myspace.com/angelsandairwaves). The disc hits shelves next Tuesday, May 23rd (http://www.absolutepunk.net/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=464&c=3).

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I'm sorry, but isn't the band called Angels and Airwaves?

Edit: not trying to be a dick

[So_It_Said]

I will pick this up on Tuesday now. I like what I hear.

[I.O]

The cd is so overated.
The live show is out of this world. Tom does not make eye contact with anyone in the crowd, as well as fellow bands members. He says the same lines in-between songs every stop on tour. He actualy said "Imagine if you heart was beating slower for 30 seconds, and god came down and cured all terminally ill diseases", as well as talking about being in love with a bunch of other stuff. Its not that its hard to take he's doing something different, its just how fake all of it seems. You can tell the other members of the band feel the same.
He wants to change the world and music, but the reality is the fan-base for this band will and is the same kids as Blink.

[Nate_RAWKS]

I love everything about it, i listen to it and i feel like it's taking me on a journey and i'm flying through the sky. It's very inspirational and emotional. And I love Tom's voice but i've always loved it.

[alexwohl29_90]

He hyped it way too much. I think people would like it much more if he didn't hype it.


I'm sure I'll like it though.

[Frank Giaramita]

I'm sorry, but isn't the band called Angels and Airwaves?

Edit: not trying to be a dick
Yeah, that's just a typo really, especially being that I typed the webpage and myspace links correctly.

[shotinthearm]

i dont know.. i guess i just don't "get it" ...
i've kind of preferred tom's voice/songs to mark's post-dude ranch.

it's too effect-happy for me... like using effects just for the sake of using effects, not to further the idea/mood of any of the songs

[gcore]

i dont think its anything really amazing. definitely reminds me of U2, just like everyone else is saying. sadly, i have never liked tom's voice. this is why i didnt like the last blink record. this is also why i am pumped for +44. marks voice just seems to work better for me. i think the record is epic-sounding in some songs, but to me, it seems that they were trying to do an audioslave/power band sort of thing, but they are all too young for it. talented bros, though.

[jklo16]

The cd is so overated.
The live show is out of this world. Tom does not make eye contact with anyone in the crowd, as well as fellow bands members. He says the same lines in-between songs every stop on tour. He actualy said "Imagine if you heart was beating slower for 30 seconds, and god came down and cured all terminally ill diseases", as well as talking about being in love with a bunch of other stuff. Its not that its hard to take he's doing something different, its just how fake all of it seems. You can tell the other members of the band feel the same.
He wants to change the world and music, but the reality is the fan-base for this band will and is the same kids as Blink.

i sorta gathered that from the weenie roast webcast. it seemed like a great show to check out....but not really buy into. in fact, i'll go as far as saying that some of his, between song speeches, reminded me of cult propaganda. I do dig the fact that he's passionate about his work...but....i was a bit scared.

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

eh 7.5-8 out of 10. not enough rockin songs. the war is the only real good rock song.
everything else kind of meanders.

[needles & pins]

I don't hate it, but... meh. I love the music, but like was said before, I don't think that Tom's vocal style is the best fit for the music. I don't know if anyone's heard of TUDOHR (myspace.com/tudohrmusic), but it's almost the same sort of music, but I like those vocals better - grittier and deeper, seem to fit this style of music better. I don't know about AVA yet. I'm sure it'll grow on me, but... I miss Blink.

[MotionIsntMeaning]

sounds like Tom is going to "save rock and roll" ...... :shake:


I didnt really enjoy the last Blink album that much so this one doesn't really do anything for me. This is a decent album, but nothing that really stands out. I know every musician should be proud of what they create but the way he hyped this album to be the greatest thing since sliced bread really bothered me. Its a bit pretentious.

[racethesun]

most of those are going to be a bitch to play live

[anthony_jr]

i really can't listen to more than 30 seconds of each song. i hoped it would be better, but i sort of knew this might happen. personally, i don't feel it's up to par with all the hype.

[solo.nate]

It's not as good as Tom was trying to make it seem, but I like it.

I think if he cools his ego a bit, the songs and live show will get better. If that happens, I see great potential for AVA.

[mm30]

I saw them on Monday and they were very, very good. They still need to get a little more chmistry on stage and up the intensity on certain songs but I am sure it will come through with time. As I have said if you are looking for anything close to a Blink record you will be disspointed. But this is coming from someone who wasn't much of a blink fan but I loved their last record (one of my all time faves). YOU NEED TO LISTEN MORE THAN ONCE and give this one time. At first I was indifferent but the more I listen to it the more I love it.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

I"m waiting to listen to the album on CD. I'm kinda dissapointed to see this reaction to it. I thought mostly everyone would think it would be great. I'd figured it would a great album but not the 'revolutionary' record tom hyped it up to be. If it just good, Tom do one more Angels & Airwaves album then get Blink back together.


Angels & Airwaves does have alot of potential to be something great though. Maybe someday it can be the band Tom made it seem like it would be.

[noles05]

I'm curious to hear more from +44, myself.

[JackBauer]

I like it from a blink fan viewpoint. If I was some music fan off the street I would wonder if its a blink album. Its a good record, but I think people will write it off becuase its someone from blink and also its not going to blow up radio just becuase the songs are way too long. All in All I really do think its good and we can see now who the musical driving force in blink was.

[HotTubsMolest]

I don't hate it, but... meh. I love the music, but like was said before, I don't think that Tom's vocal style is the best fit for the music. I don't know if anyone's heard of TUDOHR (myspace.com/tudohrmusic), but it's almost the same sort of music, but I like those vocals better - grittier and deeper, seem to fit this style of music better. I don't know about AVA yet. I'm sure it'll grow on me, but... I miss Blink.

I just listened to it and it sounds great. Thanks, man

[lftcoastenvy05]

i think it sounds like a immature (sound-wise) U2 ripoff, however, a mature step forward for delonge. as for greatest rock band of all time...this album isnt really one you can rock out to, its very mellow. the lyrics are what you would expect from a post-blink project and sound very similar to the last blink album. not all that sure that this album lives up to all the hype delonge made it out to be, but a decent album nonetheless.

[_all_star_me_]

i thought this was out 30th. stupid me.

[Ryan Imhof]

"A Little's Enough" is a great song. The others kinda put me to sleep.

[Stubby0918]

I'm listening now....

it's not all that bad, hyped it up way too much

[drmsofpsilocybi]

yes its over hyped... but musically its still better than anything really put out in the last decade. Its up for album of the year in my top 5 also. I agree with Tom, it is something different, and it does have the conceptual depth of the wall... i think everyones problem is, this just isnt what we all expected them to sound like.

[kg00d]

I love this cd and I can't wait to see them next week.

[zizou1790]

does it sound any diffrent than the leak, if not i give it a 7.9/10

[TheLifeMelodic]

I can definately hear the U2 influence...
I just get tired of the same guitar/drum effects the entire cd...

[tharealck]

"A Little's Enough" is a great song. The others kinda put me to sleep.

agreed...I think that's the best song on the album.

Is there a date set for the Plus 44 album yet? Anyone know about when we can expect that?

[The Coalition]

great driving music, it makes me speed.

[Dashy]

The songs where Tom sings hard like The Adventure and The War are amazing. Also dig Start the Machine. Everything else is just okay. Good album I'll definitely pick it up... but yea Tom kinda shot himself in the foot when he hyped this album so much... oh well.

[kallok]

I just got done streaming it and it's mediocore at best. Tom, I thought you said that this was going to be the most amazing thing ever?

[Stubby0918]

I changed my mind...

The album isn't that bad. I actually kind of like it. It'll be one of those albums that grow on me.

[LewistonSpecial]

I like it, it grew on me. rather have old blink. tom's either fucking around, or insane. He missed the mark on a lot of it. if he really wrote all this from his "heart" and it took over a year to complete...i feel bad. im compelled to write a better album just because these songs could be written in 14 seconds. i love the guy, but shit.

disappointed.

[TaffyDelicious]

At first the album seemed ordinary. As you go through it though you become taken in by the sound and begin to feel as though you are on some sortive weird mission.

[moore182]

AvA is freaking awesome, but am I the only one who loved BoxCar as much as Blink?
I would have loved to hear another BoxCar, but this is a pretty good replacement.
Though some of the drums are lacking, and there aren't too many powerful rock songs.
This is a more of a chill record to me, when I was hoping for some jamming tunes as well.
None the less, I think it is an awesome cd. I haven't listen to it too much because I want buying it to be a good experience. I think the album will grow into one of my favorites. Plus, Tom is my hero...insane or not.

[Nate_RAWKS]

At first the album seemed ordinary. As you go through it though you become taken in by the sound and begin to feel as though you are on some sortive weird mission.


hahahaha


i feel the same way...the best way to listen to it is with earphones and just close your eyes...and lay back.

and let the mission begin.

[RememberFminus]

Im still waiting to release date to hear the whole thing, but from what ive heard I love it. I think people arent treating this properly they just got in a frenzy over the media surronding the band. people forgot that all tom is trying to do is something positive and in a music scene that is flooded with negtivtiy in imagery and everything its nice to see someone having the guts to step outside and write about the beauty of the world. People should forget who is writing this album, forget what was said about it. close their eyes and just listen to the whole way through and really pay attention to the message. I think then people will enjoy this album a lot more.

[eldonhenley]

It sounds like a pretty solid release. The single is catchy and whatnot. But it seems to be a little too relient on the 'delay' guitar effect, which in turn makes it sound a LOT like U2. I love U2, but I don't want a carbon copy. That being said, I think they've done a good job with stepping away from the Blink182 stigma (other than Tom's voice, of course). They'll do just fine with this one.

[domesticyeti]

i couldnt sit through the whole thing. i love blink, and i was really hoping this would be good, but it really just isnt.
way overhyped, way too many effects. also way boring.
im dissapointed. at least murder by death is gonna rock.

[punkerz2003]

Tom's voice ruins it.

[supadupa003]

My first impression...I respect the positive messages Tom attempts to convey...and the instrumentation is a bit boring at times...but really his voice just isn't meant for this sound. My favorite songs are "The War" and "The Adventure." Regardless of how much he hyped this up, I would of been dissapointed. It lacks the intensity I felt when listening to Blink.

[dukeboy1986]

I agree with some of the other users who said that the album was way overhyped. After listening to it for a while, I just think that it is a little too long and drawn out for its own good.

[kissible&quiet]

i like it, nice and chill.
the music is quality, but i do think sometimes tom's voice is a bit out of place.

[rhinownsyou]

yes its over hyped... but musically its still better than anything really put out in the last decade. Its up for album of the year in my top 5 also. I agree with Tom, it is something different, and it does have the conceptual depth of the wall... i think everyones problem is, this just isnt what we all expected them to sound like.


i agree musically it is really really awesome, i like it...but best in a decade- no wayy bro.

both offspring (atom) and blink have put out better overall album's, the music i admit on AVA is cool but tom's voice just does not fit it well enough. There are points here and there where i can feel it but it would be better instrumentally almost, kind of like Explosions in the Sky- not sure if you heard them but they use a lot of effects like this but they dont have vox that ruin it all.

[thesego211]

i agree musically it is really really awesome, i like it...but best in a decade- no wayy bro.

both offspring (atom) and blink have put out better overall album's, the music i admit on AVA is cool but tom's voice just does not fit it well enough. There are points here and there where i can feel it but it would be better instrumentally almost, kind of like Explosions in the Sky- not sure if you heard them but they use a lot of effects like this but they dont have vox that ruin it all.
offspring never put out anything as good as this. i'm not saying it's amazing, but come on, the offspring can't write songs like this.

[zizou1790]

agreed...I think that's the best song on the album.

Is there a date set for the Plus 44 album yet? Anyone know about when we can expect that?

October

[thesego211]

so can you not skip from song to song? it won't let me pick songs randomly, do you have to wait for it? or is it just me?

[Dan CiTi]

I really like it, even if it was supposed to change rock 'n' roll and didn't from what i'm hearing(on the stream as well as ppl's comments) I'm gonna see them live ASAP. I agree with the U2 + Pink Floyd sound but they said that in the hype...so I'm not that disappointed I never really heard a lot of hype.

P.S. Revolutions aren't hyped, they suprise, strike you, and make you think and feel completely(or close to completely) different.

P.P.S.S. They've only just begun notice the last song on the record is Start The Machine remeber the first pink floyd is no where near as good as DSOTM,WYWH,The Wall, or Animals. This band has amazing potenial and could do something revolutionary just not with their debut.

[sweetforever]

at first listen, I didn't like it. Some of the songs I couldn't stand (Distraction) but as I kept listening to it, I've grown to really like it. I love the guitar work on some of the songs. " A Little's Enough" is probably my favorite song on the cd.

[unwritten]

I like it. I'm going to buy it.

[NoAvailBrian]

i literally just fell asleep listening to it. i think i made it to track 5... but i'm sure i didn't miss anything.

[Pappageo]

I pre-ordered this at an Ava show in san diego and in return got to have an album insert. The tracklisting/order of the lyrics in the album insert are way different than whats up there on myspace and other tracklistings ive seen. Same songs but just jumbled around. Its not in front of me right now but Im pretty sure "the war" and "a littles enough" are more towards the beginning of the album. Does anybody know anything about this?

[rhinownsyou]

offspring never put out anything as good as this. i'm not saying it's amazing, but come on, the offspring can't write songs like this.


maybe not as well in a musical sense, but they knew who they had in their band and how to feature it w/o overstepping their boundaries. Dexter (i think thats the singer's name) really fit that band well and overall they were a great band and had many successful albums. yes they did put multiple cds that were better then this. I can list off 5 or 6 songs from offspring that are better then anything on this album..(I.E. self-esteem, kids aren't alright, bad habbit and those are just singles)..In addition id take any of the blink albums post-chesire cat over this in an overall sense just cuz the vox go better with the music...


Listen to Smash or Americana(with a few song exceptions)...although i've only listened to the AVA album 4 times and i've had the pleasure of listening to listening to those albums as well as blink for 10 years sooo i gotta give this a fair chance



I do like the AVA music don't get me wrong. I feel bad that Tom overhyped it so much, I think thats gonna hurt this album more then help it cuz it skews how people will listen to this. Maybe hop9ing for the next great thing in music when they should just see if they can simply enjoy it.

[FallToGlory]

The cd is so overated.
The live show is out of this world. Tom does not make eye contact with anyone in the crowd, as well as fellow bands members. He says the same lines in-between songs every stop on tour. He actualy said "Imagine if you heart was beating slower for 30 seconds, and god came down and cured all terminally ill diseases", as well as talking about being in love with a bunch of other stuff. Its not that its hard to take he's doing something different, its just how fake all of it seems. You can tell the other members of the band feel the same.
He wants to change the world and music, but the reality is the fan-base for this band will and is the same kids as Blink.

agreed
did he actually say that crap about God coming down and curing all diseases?
that sounds like an "epic" and "moving" line from a 4th grader.

Angels & Airwaves does have alot of potential to be something great though. Maybe someday it can be the band Tom made it seem like it would be.

honestly, i dont really think they have any potential... its just more pretentious pseudo-experimental rock from a guy whos voice doesnt match the genre in the least

P.P.S.S. They've only just begun notice the last song on the record is Start The Machine remeber the first pink floyd is no where near as good as DSOTM,WYWH,The Wall, or Animals. This band has amazing potenial and could do something revolutionary just not with their debut.
please... never compare AvA to pink floyd again...
im not even an avid PF listener... but AvA's problem is that theyre setting out to create something revolutionary and life-changing, when they just need to start with making good music
you cant create real masterpieces by starting out with the attitude that youre already a master

[Sam Kaufman]

I enjoy it. I think the major problem is that it's a little hard to take such serious subject matter from a guy that sang about fucking a dog in the ass 2 years ago. If he would've kept his mouth closed and just let people take the music for what it is, it'd prolly came across easier...Boxcar was a pretty huge depature from Blink in my opinion...he just never really said much about it, the music spoke for him...

[biztron2000]

AVA can save rock and roll without me!

[atextbooktraged]

tom made a huge mistake by going out and trying to create a "timeless" record. Music becomes timeless by chance, because its amazing in some way. This is a brutal record. Dissapointment of the year.

[KEB182]

negative comments aside....I love the album, and love tom delonge.
Im going to see them saturday in boston and was just wondering if any one knew who was opening these smaller club type shows?

[Colin Farrell]

i think this cd is amazing and really sends a message that i enjoy. i like his lyrics, no they may not sound as intelligent as others but they give out a great message. i cant ait to see them on sunday at 930.

[HazeLitRise]

box car racer part two.
but thats not a bad thing at all

[FallToGlory]

tom made a huge mistake by going out and trying to create a "timeless" record. Music becomes timeless by chance, because its amazing in some way. This is a brutal record. Dissapointment of the year.

agreed, exactly what i was *trying* to say haha

i dont think its as bad as you do, but definately nothing great

[Ibanezgsr200]

offspring never put out anything as good as this. i'm not saying it's amazing, but come on, the offspring can't write songs like this.

uhh have u ever listened to a cd called SMASH? it blows this shit away. and im not saying its bad i actually enjoy AVA but it doesnt compare to smash.

[IcedOpethBlind]

yes its over hyped... but musically its still better than anything really put out in the last decade. Its up for album of the year in my top 5 also. I agree with Tom, it is something different, and it does have the conceptual depth of the wall... i think everyones problem is, this just isnt what we all expected them to sound like.

i seriously hope you're joking..

if not, get outside of bands like finch, blink, etc. and expand your musical horizon..

[Isbu]

It gets boring.

[myownelement]

i am really upset with everybody that is relating this band to blink 182, if you're that close minded that you allow yourself to group this with anything that blink has ever put out then please, just refrain from even giving commentary at all. we all know its tom, la la la, but try to put in place that he's doing something here that is trying to encompass something larger than just fans of blink 182. maybe thats not what you like, and thats fine to have negative opinions toward it but expressing negative feelings just because it "doesn't sound like blink" or "sounds too much like u2" is stupid.

it's clear that some songs on "everything in transit" by jack's mannequin sound like beach boy'ish, and yet, i didn't see a lot of negative feedback from that end.

respect the album for what it is and quit trying to compare it with everything thats already out there.

[thesego211]

I enjoy it. I think the major problem is that it's a little hard to take such serious subject matter from a guy that sang about fucking a dog in the ass 2 years ago. If he would've kept his mouth closed and just let people take the music for what it is, it'd prolly came across easier...Boxcar was a pretty huge depature from Blink in my opinion...he just never really said much about it, the music spoke for him...
so you would have liked this more if tom hadn't said anything about it? that is stupid. formulate your opinion regardless of what tom said about it. it's foolish to say people would like it more if he hadn't spoken so highly of it in the first place.

[Nolessthanblink]

i am really upset with everybody that is relating this band to blink 182, if you're that close minded that you allow yourself to group this with anything that blink has ever put out then please, just refrain from even giving commentary at all. we all know its tom, la la la, but try to put in place that he's doing something here that is trying to encompass something larger than just fans of blink 182. maybe thats not what you like, and thats fine to have negative opinions toward it but expressing negative feelings just because it "doesn't sound like blink" or "sounds too much like u2" is stupid.

it's clear that some songs on "everything in transit" by jack's mannequin sound like beach boy'ish, and yet, i didn't see a lot of negative feedback from that end.

respect the album for what it is and quit trying to compare it with everything thats already out there.

AMEN! I think that this album is EVERYTHING I expected from it... and for everyone saying that Tom hyped it too much... he knows he has, and he's a FUCKING GENIUS for it... cause it got EVERYONE talking about his band! How many other bands have played two shows that they played to over 100,000 people in those two shows before they even released an album? I'm sure that none of you have, and even if you don't like it at first, I don't care who you are, this album either has, or will, grow on you... I think it's great... this is my first time listening to the full thing cause I have integrity and never downloaded the leak : ) However, I did watch a video for Good Day with footage from 9/11 and I have to say that the song is soooo powerful, but no one on here's given it any love yet... great album, great song, great band... I only wish they'd come to texas/oklahoma on that club tour, but I guess I'll just be happy with my pit tickets for them and TBS in July. Stop bitching about it not being Blink, and just being US (which it's not cause U2 sucks my cock on my opinion, and I actually like this). So yeah, call me close-minded cause I like this and hate U2, cause I like this album and don't say it's overhyped just cause Tom's a genius and did exactly what was needed to be done to get people to check out his band... This cds gonna own my ipod for a while I think. Definately chill.

[domesticyeti]

respect the album for what it is and quit trying to compare it with everything thats already out there.

in that case. the album is really boring. every song has the same vibe. a bad vibe. the lyrics are absolute shit, and the vocals really kill every song. i enjoy a bit of the music, but this isnt the stuff that tom should sing over. not because im used to something else, but because tom delonge does NOT have a good voice. especially live.

so i shall respect this album for being overhyped, i shall respect it for being a dissapointment, and i shall respect it for being overproduced, over effected shit.

:D

[catscradle]

i am really upset with everybody that is relating this band to blink 182, if you're that close minded that you allow yourself to group this with anything that blink has ever put out then please, just refrain from even giving commentary at all. we all know its tom, la la la, but try to put in place that he's doing something here that is trying to encompass something larger than just fans of blink 182. maybe thats not what you like, and thats fine to have negative opinions toward it but expressing negative feelings just because it "doesn't sound like blink" or "sounds too much like u2" is stupid.

it's clear that some songs on "everything in transit" by jack's mannequin sound like beach boy'ish, and yet, i didn't see a lot of negative feedback from that end.

respect the album for what it is and quit trying to compare it with everything thats already out there.
i'm pretty sure andrew mcmahon never said his music would reinvent the genre of rock and roll and compare his music to the likes of what people see as the biggest rock and roll bands of all time.

[oldskool]

I have NEVER been so let down by a cd in my entire life. I cannot even type I am so amazed that it has come to this garbage of a cd. This is so bad, like really really bad. I will not buy this. What a total sellout.

[thesego211]

in that case. the album is really boring. every song has the same vibe. a bad vibe. the lyrics are absolute shit, and the vocals really kill every song. i enjoy a bit of the music, but this isnt the stuff that tom should sing over. not because im used to something else, but because tom delonge does NOT have a good voice. especially live.

so i shall respect this album for being overhyped, i shall respect it for being a dissapointment, and i shall respect it for being overproduced, over effected shit.

:D
you like thursday

[BE A MAN]

ha, yeah, seriously.. It's a decent record, if you like U2 rip offs and the last Blink record
hahahahah... no, and no

[dubey]

AMEN! I think that this album is EVERYTHING I expected from it... and for everyone saying that Tom hyped it too much... he knows he has, and he's a FUCKING GENIUS for it... cause it got EVERYONE talking about his band! How many other bands have played two shows that they played to over 100,000 people in those two shows before they even released an album? I'm sure that none of you have,

blah blah

So yeah, call me close-minded cause I like this and hate U2, cause I like this album and don't say it's overhyped just cause Tom's a genius and did exactly what was needed to be done to get people to check out his band...
No. He isn't a genius at all. The majority of people talking about this album are talking shit about it and the reason people are going to see the shows is because he is Tom of Blink-182.

Honestly I don't know when you started listening to blink-182 but I can tell they've had some sort of impact on your life to have them in your username. What I don't understand is if you've heard the Plus44 song and read all of Tom's interviews how can you even find it in you to listen to Angels and Airwaves? He ruined the band that is the reason I'm sure the majority of us even listen to the stuff we do now for this 'groundbreaking' album? Give me a break.

[Zodiack777]

I usually don't comment on opinions, because they are just that, however in this case there are a couple of things that I had to comment on.

First off, I would be interested to see everyone's opinions on this album without them having access to other posts first. There can't possible be that many of you who believe that Tom's voice isn't right for 'this kind of music'. What does that even mean? Is Davey's voice right for the kind of music that AFI plays? Is Claudio's voice right for the kind of music that Coheed plays? Seems to me that the vocals in those bands are one of the main things that distinguishes them from others in the genre they are associated with.

Secondly, Tom may have shot himself in the foot a bit by hyping this project so much, but since when do we knock bands for influences? Blink comparisons are inevitable, as are U2 comparisons (especially since he admitted to the U2 influence on this record, although I'm not convinced that everyone would be so quick to complain about it if he'd never mentioned it). Tom used delay similar to The Edge, so what. He's not the first and won't be the last. If you're going to complain about that, then you better start ripping EVERY guitarist playing a Les Paul through a Marshall stack as sounding too much like Clapton.

[savagerocks]

I usually don't comment on opinions, because they are just that, however in this case there are a couple of things that I had to comment on.

First off, I would be interested to see everyone's opinions on this album without them having access to other posts first. There can't possible be that many of you who believe that Tom's voice isn't right for 'this kind of music'. What does that even mean? Is Davey's voice right for the kind of music that AFI plays? Is Claudio's voice right for the kind of music that Coheed plays? Seems to me that the vocals in those bands are one of the main things that distinguishes them from others in the genre they are associated with.

Secondly, Tom may have shot himself in the foot a bit by hyping this project so much, but since when do we knock bands for influences? Blink comparisons are inevitable, as are U2 comparisons (especially since he admitted to the U2 influence on this record, although I'm not convinced that everyone would be so quick to complain about it if he'd never mentioned it). Tom used delay similar to The Edge, so what. He's not the first and won't be the last. If you're going to complain about that, then you better start ripping EVERY guitarist playing a Les Paul through a Marshall stack as sounding too much like Clapton.

Alright Tom, stop posting on AP.

[Nolessthanblink]

No. He isn't a genius at all. The majority of people talking about this album are talking shit about it and the reason people are going to see the shows is because he is Tom of Blink-182.

Honestly I don't know when you started listening to blink-182 but I can tell they've had some sort of impact on your life to have them in your username. What I don't understand is if you've heard the Plus44 song and read all of Tom's interviews how can you even find it in you to listen to Angels and Airwaves? He ruined the band that is the reason I'm sure the majority of us even listen to the stuff we do now for this 'groundbreaking' album? Give me a break.

You're right, Blink has had a HUGE impact on my life... more specifically Tom. And it doesn't really matter how many people are talking shit... cause no pubilicity is bad publicity homie. And yeah, I've heard two Pkus 44 songs... the acoustic one is mediocre at best... it'll be better when its not a shitty quality demo... and the song with the girl singing is atrocious... but I don't like female vocalists, so I'm not going to hold that song against them. I love Blink with everything... each member, but after listening to AVA, and then Plus 44, it's clear that Tom was the music man behind Blink. Mark took his root notes and played those... Travis is a genius, but I like Atom's drumming on this album. Tom did tear apart one of the biggest (and my favorite) band in the world, but you can't break something alone. If YOU'VE read the interviews, he said that Mark FILLED their schedule cause he was insecure about his role in the band since TOM was getting solo offers from Geffen and had BCR with Travis... how would you like it if you thought you were gonna get time off to spend with you family and you learned that instead of being with your toddler daughter, you'd be away from another year or something? It wouldn't sit well with me either. With AVA, Tom's in complete control... and I applaude him for what he's done. Like it or hate it, you've still heard it... which is all he wanted you to do. He's even said (at Bamboozle) "You may be a group that says the show was alright, you may be a person that was too drunk to care, or you may be a person that has been touched by a band called Angels and Airwaves". All Tom wanted was the CHANCE to reach people and to help better their lives and give them a positive outlook on life... and like I said, whether you like the album or not, he's gotten that chance. :)

[piaffeprncess98]

My first impression of the record is:

The instrumentals remind me a lot of U2-- I am a big U2 fan, however, I don't think Tom's voice sounds fitting over instrumentals such as these. Generally speaking, his melodies and vocal tone sound out of place and un-parallel to the style of the isntrumentals and I think I'd actually prefer the record without any vocals at all. I think the intro and breakdown to Valkeyrie Missle are absolutely incredible, but I feel they are tainted a bit by Tom's verse and chorus melodies. There are some songs, like "Distraction" and "The Gift", where I think Tom sounds very fitting... I still love the guys voice, I just think he missed his niche a little.
I agree with you completely. His voice doesn't fit the music very well. I still love the cd though, I'm not really a Blink 182 fan, so I really had no reason to check this out other than how much it was hyped. I'm not entirely disappointed.

[Doctor Hippo]

I don't think I can make it through this bullshit.

[domesticyeti]

you like thursday

thursday > ava

[bikescene]

the one thing that annoys me is the incessant use of delay in every damn song.

[HeadSock]

He hyped it way too much. I think people would like it much more if he didn't hype it.


I'm sure I'll like it though.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly.

[domesticyeti]

He's even said (at Bamboozle) "You may be a group that says the show was alright, you may be a person that was too drunk to care, or you may be a person that has been touched by a band called Angels and Airwaves". All Tom wanted was the CHANCE to reach people and to help better their lives and give them a positive outlook on life... and like I said, whether you like the album or not, he's gotten that chance. :)

ava didnt play bamboozle...

[Nolessthanblink]

ava didnt play bamboozle...

My bad, Give It A Name

[domesticyeti]

i was like "how did i not know that?!"
no problem though

[smogs]

ive acutally only heard "the adventure" and i really like it.

granted, i think it does sound sorta like blink 182's last cd, but its all gravy.

i already preordered for 9.99 when i preordered my head automatica cd. yay for free shipping.

[Ponyboy]

. He's even said (at Bamboozle) "You may be a group that says the show was alright, you may be a person that was too drunk to care, or you may be a person that has been touched by a band called Angels and Airwaves".

waittt, since when were they at bamboozle?

[Ponyboy]

wait nvm

my bad ppl already corrected u lol

[Drum182]

I just think it's cool not to like Tom. Everytime Tom does something new people don't like it. Wether it's the new blink 182 record or box car, it's cool to dislike him. Blink are now viewed as modern punk pioneers. AVA is not Blink though. Honestly, I listen to this CD and I think it's better than almost everything out there in the current music scene. The guitar work is great, the drums are pounding, it's well produced, and to top it off I think it's a modern recording marvel. Notice how I say modern... Anyway - I think in good time people will love this band. This cd is such a fluid well written piece of music. I think his voice sounds fine. At first I was a little taken off guard but after one listen it settled in. I didn't think his voice was out of place. I was just used to hearing him with a different band. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but anyone who says this albums sucks or can't find something to appreciate in it is close minded. I'm a musician of a decent ammount of years and I could only hope to ever make something as good as this.

[leftstranded]

first impression isn't that good

all the songs seem to run together, albeit that they flow well, i think they sound the same throughout most of the cd. i have to listen to it a little more to get a better impression

[armorforchiodos]

people always try to over analyze music...it is an expression of feelings just like any popular form of media, so it makes no sense to hate on ppl for it...idiots...

[PunkDrums182]

I really enjoy this record. Right now my favorite track is "Do It For Me Now" but like most people, I'd much rather have a new Blink album.
Agreed. It took a while, but the cd grew on me.

[kwintz]

I think i may be the only person on the planet that thinks this, but i like this AVA album better than anything blink every put out. Blink was too immature up until their self titled release in 2003. It was just boring and mindless to me. This, however, is an amazing album. I have always loved Tom's voice and this album just has a really atmospheric, epic feel to it. Don't compare this to blink 182, you would be doing a disservice to AVA. Give this a chance. It didn't click w/ me at first, but after a few listens you're just sort of like OKAY, SO THIS IS WHY TOM WAS HYPING IT UP...it's the nuances in the music that makes this record awesome.

And they should release THE WAR as a single...it's the most accesible track on the album. My favorite songs are START THE MACHINE, THE WAR, DO IT FOR ME NOW, IT HURTS, and the epic, ridiculously good A LITTLE'S ENOUGH.

Amazing album, buy it. You won't be dissapointed.

[FallToGlory]

people always try to over analyze music...it is an expression of feelings just like any popular form of media, so it makes no sense to hate on ppl for it...idiots...
stupid, stupid....
thats the problem with this music
it has nothing to do with an expression of feelings
most "popular form[s] of media" also have absolutely nothing to do with expressions of feelings
in popular media, its all about selling... you cant possibly be that naivete to think that 90% of the music out there isnt all about self-promotion and making money
there are the exceptions and people who can make money with their art without loosing their souls in the dust, but someone who calls his own music a rock revolution and the greatest band of all time... definately fits into the money-making category

when i hear or read about AvA, i dont think about art or feelings
i think about pompousness and over-promotion

man... theyre going to sell so many records.
and not necessarily because theyre good... but because they have a genius manager, and tom is a great marketer

no feelings, just money

[Adrianduh]

Hey, i put off downloading this when it leaked.
And since tuesday is in 4 days im not going to listen to it until i have the actual cd in my hands.
But this isnt as good as blink, not even close.
BUT this isnt blink, he wanted to make sure everyone knew that, which i know you all know.
So the reason of my pointless comment.
I miss boxcar racer.
I miss blink 182.
I want AvA
I want Plus 44

Its music people.
Love/hate it for what it does for you
Not how impressive it is.

[NoPenguinsInPA]

it's an ok-ish album- that's it. forget the hype. forget about a guy named tom. listen to it- it's not amazing, it's just ok. spin it on a rainy day. take it for what it is, not what it was supposed to be.

[Sam Kaufman]

so you would have liked this more if tom hadn't said anything about it? that is stupid. formulate your opinion regardless of what tom said about it. it's foolish to say people would like it more if he hadn't spoken so highly of it in the first place.

EAAASY killer
All I'm saying is that by speaking so highly of it overshadows a persons ability to really enjoy it. Your expecting something revolutionary from the get go and when it's not, you're disappointed rather than able to just enjoy the music.

[nebula]

first time i heard it, it dragged on way too long. i just got bored... but if you give it a few good thorough listens it gets better. not the best cd, but its nice music in the background.

[YourMusicSucks]

Almost all the instrumentation on this cd is simple .... like blink (minus travis barker). Blink is the first thing anyone who gets a guitar learns nowadays, A&A stuff isn't any harder... just much better production.

Not that i don't love it, but don't give it credit it doesn't deserve.

I think "The Adventure" is the best track; it's the only one where the vocals add to the song more than they take away.

Track's one and two are also very awesome, and I havent really listened through the second half of the CD often enough to judge.

[mikeyxxcore]

As stated before, A Littles Enough is a great song.

the rest of the cd couldnt compare.

[gizmo6d9]

It barely changes at all and I hate Tom's voice anyways. It's mostly background music to me. It really just feels exactly like where the last Blink album was trying to go and prolly where they were going to end up.

[sometripe]

Well, just listened through it. I'm not really impressed or blown away, but nor am I really disappointed either. It's very middle of the road. There are a few stand out tracks but overall I don't feel like it's anything all that special.

I disagree with everybody saying Tom's voice doesn't really work, I don't think that's what's hurting these songs. Personally, I feel like his voice works fine, at least as well as anything else would have. The songs themselves are flawed, many of them really drag, but that's not the fault of the vocals. I'm not saying musically it sucks, they're obviously technically skilled, but that doesn't matter if what you're playing is slow and boring.

As for the U2 similarity everybody's harping on, I don't really notice that so much either. I mean, I guess it's there if you're looking for it but it doesn't smack you over the head or anything. Besides, that delay effect is used so widely you can hardly limit it only to U2.

Finally, was Tom listening to Tarzan Boy by Baltimora when he wrote The War? Seriously, that echoy-chant thing, man... I can't believe nobody's said anything about that yet.