Check out my Vocal Cover [Archive]

ReturnedSnowDay

10/13/09, 11:07 PM

Yea, that's how i feel about it. It's not great; I'm going to record one of Enter Shikari - Mothership ... hopefully its better.

Regards

10/13/09, 11:10 PM

If I were you I'd listen to better screamers, if screaming is really what you're into. Also it sounds like you're coming from your throat at times, which is a big "no no" unless you want vocal chord surgery in your future.

ReturnedSnowDay

10/13/09, 11:23 PM

yea, when i get out of breath i tend to go back into bad habits.

Regards

10/13/09, 11:39 PM

yea, when i get out of breath i tend to go back into bad habits.
Takes a while to kill, trust me I know, but once you're over them they don't come back.

quicksilv001

10/13/09, 11:43 PM

Alesana? No thank you.

Do a vocal cover of a band that is... i don't know... actually good.

ReturnedSnowDay

10/13/09, 11:47 PM

Alesana? No thank you.

Do a vocal cover of a band that is... i don't know... actually good.

lol well i'm open to suggestions for my next cover, i'd still appreciate some feedback on what you heard.

Regards

10/13/09, 11:48 PM

lol well i'm open to suggestions for my next cover, i'd still appreciate some feedback on what you heard.
Converge - The Saddest Day

quicksilv001

10/13/09, 11:58 PM

lol well i'm open to suggestions for my next cover, i'd still appreciate some feedback on what you heard.

Are you only looking to cover skramz?

Oh, the audio quality was terrible.

ReturnedSnowDay

10/14/09, 12:03 AM

Are you only looking to cover skramz?

Oh, the audio quality was terrible.

If Scramz = screams then yes. I can't sing worth a shit. I know the audio is crap, but i worked with what i had and that was photobooth on my macbook.

HometownHero

10/14/09, 12:04 AM

Cover a better band. Then i shall give my input

ReturnedSnowDay

10/14/09, 12:06 AM

like I said already give me suggest a band and I'll post it tomorrow.

quicksilv001

10/14/09, 12:14 AM

Eh if you only cover skramz then do something like Davin Gavin Dance - Backwards Pumpkin Song or Alexisonfire - Where No One Knows

ivantoar

10/14/09, 12:23 AM

My first vocal cover I did a few months ago. Let me know what you think, please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9omvN4pmPxE

Good but the voice quality is so...X-)

timb89

10/14/09, 12:47 AM

this is the most disgusting thing i have ever heard.

do people who scream really think they have talent?

ZachMadeMeOdd

10/14/09, 12:57 AM

Well I think that was a joke. Alesana is a joke. And putting up youtube videos of covering alesana for people to hear is a joke. And it wasn't good.

Cover Veil of Maya, a band who's screaming is worth listening to, and then i'll applaud you.

ReturnedSnowDay

10/14/09, 04:03 AM

Eh if you only cover skramz then do something like Davin Gavin Dance - Backwards Pumpkin Song or Alexisonfire - Where No One Knows

I love DGD, so i'll cover them.

Thanks Ivantoar

xJesusFreakx

10/14/09, 05:54 AM

Converge - The Saddest Day

I don't think the most efficient way to teach is to drop the final on students on the first day of class.

Eh if you only cover skramz then do something like Davin Gavin Dance - Backwards Pumpkin Song or Alexisonfire - Where No One Knows

What? It's not enough to bastardize the terms "emo" and "screamo"? "Skramz" is dead, too?

Un'Aria Ancora

10/14/09, 06:24 AM

Why are you doing vocal covers?
Sounds like a giant waste of time... you need attention that bad?
And stop screaming. Please.

Derka Derka

10/14/09, 06:27 AM

If you want to be taken seriously as a vocalist then join a real band, don't post vocal covers on youtube.

Regards

10/14/09, 06:51 AM

this is the most disgusting thing i have ever heard.

do people who scream really think they have talent?
Can you, or do you scream? Because yes, it is a talented, and is recognized as one by a lot of vocal professionals.

Broclee

10/14/09, 09:14 AM

Can you, or do you scream? Because yes, it is a talented, and is recognized as one by a lot of vocal professionals.
What I was about to post.

TheReckoner

10/14/09, 09:48 AM

it is a talented
Grammar fail.

OtherBen

10/14/09, 09:49 AM

do some,

raein
cease upon the capital
pianos become the teeth
converge
daitro
envy

JimGray

10/14/09, 10:04 AM

Eh if you only cover skramz then do something like Davin Gavin Dance - Backwards Pumpkin Song or Alexisonfire - Where No One Knows

o.O

ReturnedSnowDay

10/14/09, 11:38 AM

If you want to be taken seriously as a vocalist then join a real band, don't post vocal covers on youtube.

I would, but I go to school at Penn State which has no local music scene. I've posted on CL looking for people to play with I've posted flyers on campus, but i haven't had any luck. I do it for the sake of practice.

popdisaster00

10/14/09, 12:00 PM

Most people can scream but not a lot can scream good. Also there are a lot of different types, obviously.

And Hours Pass

10/14/09, 01:28 PM

Can you, or do you scream? Because yes, it is a talented, and is recognized as one by a lot of vocal professionals.

I'm sorry, but I have to agree with @Timb89. I've studied voice for quite some time, and while I don't judge someone for choosing to scream, I think it could be considered a talent in the same way that people train themselves to be hung by hooks. Sure, it takes training to perform either one, but I don't think I would really group it with singing. And none of the vocal coaches I have worked with recognized it. I'm not intending to offend anybody, just sharing my view.

Broclee

10/14/09, 01:32 PM

I'm sorry, but I have to agree with @Timb89. I've studied voice for quite some time, and while I don't judge someone for choosing to scream, I think it could be considered a talent in the same way that people train themselves to be hung by hooks. Sure, it takes training to perform either one, but I don't think I would really group it with singing. And none of the vocal coaches I have worked with recognized it. I'm not intending to offend anybody, just sharing my view.
Do/did any of your vocal coaches have any experience with 20th century music? And yes, I am referring to art music. There's plenty of music for voice that involves screaming.

ReturnedSnowDay

10/14/09, 02:10 PM

Most people can scream but not a lot can scream good. Also there are a lot of different types, obviously.

I agree, I hope with time I can become good.

timb89

10/14/09, 04:29 PM

Can you, or do you scream? Because yes, it is a talented, and is recognized as one by a lot of vocal professionals.

so your comparing it to singing talent?

no i don't scream nor do i ever intend to. i have two friends who taught themselves to scream over a short period of time, with no extraordinary musical talent. i will never regard it than anything more than painful noise that ruins songs that for some reason bands feel the need to include. sometimes it works, 90% of the time it doesn't.

trappedintime

10/14/09, 04:33 PM

Alesana? No thank you.

Do a vocal cover of a band that is... i don't know... actually good.

lolololololollol

And Hours Pass

10/14/09, 04:50 PM

Do/did any of your vocal coaches have any experience with 20th century music? And yes, I am referring to art music. There's plenty of music for voice that involves screaming.
They all had experience with contemporary music. I worked with a variety of different coaches and none of them recognized it. I don't really know that many types of music that utilize screaming in different ways. There seem to be a lot of genres coming out that incorporate it, but I don't think that the genres are all valid by any stretch (screamcrunk, horrorcore, etc...)

Regards

10/14/09, 05:25 PM

so your comparing it to singing talent?

no i don't scream nor do i ever intend to. i have two friends who taught themselves to scream over a short period of time, with no extraordinary musical talent. i will never regard it than anything more than painful noise that ruins songs that for some reason bands feel the need to include. sometimes it works, 90% of the time it doesn't.
I'm sure that you're friends, over that short time, probably screamed in a manner that sounded terrible, and probably wrong form and will eventually destroy their throats. You have a biased view, because you don't enjoy any music that involves screaming. Yes, I do compare it to singing talent, just like singing, screaming is something that everyone can do, but only talented people can do well.

timb89

10/14/09, 05:33 PM

I'm sure that you're friends, over that short time, probably screamed in a manner that sounded terrible, and probably wrong form and will eventually destroy their throats. You have a biased view, because you don't enjoy any music that involves screaming. Yes, I do compare it to singing talent, just like singing, screaming is something that everyone can do, but only talented people can do well.

show me someone who can do it well then?

screaming is just a release, singing involves control.

timb89

10/14/09, 05:35 PM

They all had experience with contemporary music. I worked with a variety of different coaches and none of them recognized it. I don't really know that many types of music that utilize screaming in different ways. There seem to be a lot of genres coming out that incorporate it, but I don't think that the genres are all valid by any stretch (screamcrunk, horrorcore, etc...)

ageed. i would love to sit down and talk with a vocal coach who explores screaming and to see how he would justify it.

Derka Derka

10/14/09, 05:37 PM

show me someone who can do it well then?

screaming is just a release, singing involves control.

screaming well involves a lot of control. just because you're not hitting specific notes when you scream doesn't make it easy.

Regards

10/14/09, 05:49 PM

show me someone who can do it well then?

screaming is just a release, singing involves control.
Yeah, absolutely no control there.
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timb89

10/14/09, 05:51 PM

screaming well involves a lot of control. just because you're not hitting specific notes when you scream doesn't make it easy.

didn't say it wasn't easy, i just don't consider someone who can do it overtly talented. also i don't enjoy it in my music. perhaps only on very rare occasions.

Derka Derka

10/14/09, 05:56 PM

didn't say it wasn't easy, i just don't consider someone who can do it overtly talented. also i don't enjoy it in my music. perhaps only on very rare occasions.

In my opinion singing is harder but screaming still requires a good amount of talent

timb89

10/14/09, 05:58 PM

Yeah, absolutely no control there.
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i'd say there is an element of control there, you can see he is controlling his breathing. but i would have to say i was the more talented one. i had a harder time controlling myself to watch all of that. do people actually listen to that for leisurely purposes?

i see no difference from that and this:

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timb89

10/14/09, 06:01 PM

In my opinion singing is harder but screaming still requires a good amount of talent

compare this to any of the above videos. and see if you can still even remotely compare singing and screaming.

siNsgbIWhAQ

Regards

10/14/09, 06:04 PM

i'd say there is an element of control there, you can see he is controlling his breathing. but i would have to say i was the more talented one. i had a harder time controlling myself to watch all of that. do people actually listen to that for leisurely purposes?

i see no difference from that and this:

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:hitself:
compare this to any of the above videos. and see if you can still even remotely compare singing and screaming.

siNsgbIWhAQ
lol. Then there is no way to sway your mind, which is unfortunate. You summed up your feelings by comparing something to the garbage that is Alessana.

timb89

10/14/09, 06:05 PM

:hitself:

lol. Then there is no way to sway your mind, which is unfortunate. You summed up your feelings by comparing something to the garbage that is Alessana.

i just don't see the difference. well one wears eyeliner. i just don't enjoy it.

ReturnedSnowDay

10/14/09, 06:12 PM

lol this post spawned some nasty debates.

muttley

10/14/09, 07:42 PM

Grammar fail.

Looks more like a typo to me.

And Hours Pass

10/14/09, 09:11 PM

ageed. i would love to sit down and talk with a vocal coach who explores screaming and to see how he would justify it.
I'm with you man. 100%.

FullCollaspe

10/14/09, 09:21 PM

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Broclee

10/14/09, 09:26 PM

They all had experience with contemporary music. I worked with a variety of different coaches and none of them recognized it. I don't really know that many types of music that utilize screaming in different ways. There seem to be a lot of genres coming out that incorporate it, but I don't think that the genres are all valid by any stretch (screamcrunk, horrorcore, etc...)

I'm with you man. 100%.

I know a few here that recognize it and it's use in art music.
:shrug:

EDIT: The only reason I'm entering into this debate at all is because I've heard some fantastic music, both art and pop, that utilized screaming that exhibited a number of "musical" aspects similar to singing.