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Juniper Skies
10/21/09, 08:44 AM
So off the bat I want to thank whomever bothers to read this for their time. So I don't mind sarcastic remarks as long as I can reach someone with good advice. I'm not trying to get my sob story out there for pity, just so I can finally relax, get things out so I don't implode, and not feel so alone.

So first off, I don't really have a sense of family with my own. This is the result of physical abuse instead of normal grounding and bad communication. When I was younger I don't think there was a single day I didn't get the shit hit out of me. My dad stayed out of it or wasn't even aware but things got eventually better.

Secondly my family owns a convenience store and have owned one all throughout my life. Haha to Asian Stereotypes.

Thirdly, I am at lost at being able to communicate with my mom. Her English is horrible and I lost my memory on most of my Korean. Thus we can't get things across to each other. Sort've seems impossible but it's true. I can't even say "I love you" properly to her. Though sometimes I don't understand why I do because of the past but I guess you'll always have a tiny space for your family always.

And finally, my dad. He was my hero when I was younger. I think he was to both me and the rest of my family. He was so nice, had a great laugh, and I actually could understand him. I wanted to go to the Olympics and such so I could fulfill his dreams which became mine but I digress. I'm just trying to say he was my pillar. And it's why it's so hard to accept all that's happened.

But then things sort've started to get wonky 7 years back, I think in grade 6, we didn't know it nor was I old enough to know the diagnosis but I figure he had Schizophrenia. He had illusions of speaking to 'God' and at one point kicked my mom out of our house and cut her out of family pictures and stating he had a new girlfriend out east. We tried to keep things discreet since like most families we wanted to portray ourselves as normal. When she took my brother to Korea during Thanksgiving one year, she came back with all her family heirloom jewelry from her (then) recently deceased mother thrown out and half her possessions gone. He stated he was just giving to the poor. And my mom through tears accepted that. Since she was helplessly in love with him. But things went really bad when he kicked her out another time but this time he also dragged my little brother around town waving around a baseball bat. The latter incident resulted in a neighbor calling the cops on him.

He went to a clinic to get treated and my memory is fuzzy and I think my mom lied so he could get out. Even after all she went through, she still loved him. I was young back then.

Because of the incident, my area decided to talk and so we sold our store from the suburbia, lived on little funds for a while and then bought another store in a rural city.

Things were okay but I started really distancing myself from my family since they started acting like a cult and going along with my father's wishes. I just spent most of my days, even weeks just hopping from one friend's house to another without letting anyone know. Basic cleaning, feeding, and laundry were ignored. I often had to wear the same clothes and dare not to get a stain on them, if so I had to wash them with soap in my sink and dry them in my room.

Life was weirdly adjusted... it was November and I was in grade 10. I was psyched that I was going on a trip to New York after working my butt off during the summer to pay for it. The morning of, my dad and our family van disappeared. He had a cell, a credit card, and some cash. Frantic we tried to reach his phone. But alas we couldn't so stupidly, I called my best friend who was also going and she came across two towns to pick me up. It was a three day trip and I wasn't able to afford to call my mom during the trip. I kept my situation quiet and even my friend who picked me up didn't even know the whole story. I hoped that when I came back, he would be too. But he wasn't.

We called the cops the day after I came home and they were puzzled why we hadn't called earlier. My mom couldn't since she can't speak english and also, I think she just didn't want to believe it. We had a formal investigation when they found our van. It was 5-6hours north of where we were and he had left all his possessions in the car. He had only spent $40 on gas and that was it. We couldn't find him and search teams consisting of the police force up there and our family failed miserably. It was a cold winter and we heard no word of him. Whenever I saw it was a cold night I desperately just hoped he was alive and warm. I didn't care I felt rejection and desertion.

Months went by. We had some people help us out at the store. I missed a lot of school yet surprisingly passed my courses.

In April we got the call saying they had found him.

He was found washed ashore and a fisherman found him.

He was so bloated and eaten by fish, they had to use dental records and we identified him by the possessions he was wearing. He had he's wedding band. There was the assumption of suicide with no signs of foul play.

Thankfully I had met a great guy around then and we had been dating for a few short months. He surprisingly took it well when I told him what happened.

We had a funeral soon after.

It seems like this would be the end but my mother still isn't the same.

She is stricken with anxiety and is quick tempered again.

She's had to have relationships with two men so far just so she could keep the store running. With her language barrier and little education, if we gave up the store, we'd be out on the streets.

The first guy was a huge dud. He left after a while.

My mom was depressed when she met a great guy. They got along, he moved in. My brother had a huge emotional attachment to him since he was now able to comprehend the situation and recognize his need for a father figure. It was great. The business wasn't good, but it really never was. But it didn't matter. He was recently divorced and 58. My mom is 51. His adult children and extended family accepted us and I actually thought we became a family and even I reluctantly accepted him after he proposed and such.

But the grandeur faded and once he saw her inability to control the situation, he started to revert. He was used to a more luxurious life style and didn't like having to work long hours at the store. He'd work 5 while she work 9. He'd complain he was tired and just used our money and home.

And last night he took our car and pack a few belongings and left.

I had a panic attack as my feelings of rejection and desertion arose again.

He came back this morning to pick up more of his belongings.

I couldn't even look at him without feeling disgusted.

I am in the situation again where my mom needs help.

The question is, should I drop out of university and help her out? There is no way I can assist her when I am a full time student. And she has burned all her bridges where people help us out. I doubt I'll see another man enter our home anytime soon. She is working 15 hour days with little food or sleep.

Brand-new-123
10/21/09, 09:20 AM
maybe you could reach out to some local churches and charity organizations in your local area.
here (http://www.ccpgh.org/)'s one in Pittsburgh and I'm sure there are dozens of others. You don't want to hurt your chances of succeeding in life by dropping out of college unless it's an absolute necessity. There are lots of people that are willing to offer a helping hand in the community I'm sure, but they can't react to your situation unless they know it.

jeremypeele
10/21/09, 11:17 AM
can you sum this up in 100 words or less?

EDIT: nevermind I just read the last sentence. Don't drop out of school.

Kozzy333
10/21/09, 11:31 AM
Don't drop out.

JustinSxE
10/21/09, 11:33 AM
Don't drop out of school. It's one of the worst things you can do right now. What you need to do is find someone who knows how to speak Korean in your school (Chances are there is at least one person) and have him/her act as a translator between you and your mother.

I'm afraid I can't do anything else to help you, but I can wish you the best of luck for you to be able to pull through this. God bless.

And Hours Pass
10/21/09, 11:34 AM
Reach out to United Way. I used to volunteer for them and these are the exact types of situations that they help with.

bNz719
10/21/09, 12:00 PM
Definitely, don't drop out. As for your mother, contact charity organizations and go from there. I wish you the best

Sventhegreat
10/21/09, 12:00 PM
Christ on a crutch that was long. Don't drop out of school (read the last line only too), that is an awful idea. Unless, of course, you want to go nowhere with your life.

makeshiftmind
10/21/09, 12:32 PM
I lent you three minutes and thirty seconds, where can I redeem this?

BryterJonah
10/21/09, 01:21 PM
fk76rsV71S0

Go to college, have a positive attitude, no negative friends, don't spout that bs about not wanting "drama" because being on the right path means being virtually free of the very concept, pin down a specific subject you'd like to major in, then become enthusiastic and unnaturally giddy when thinking about it, realize members of your family are only humans, believe in your own potential, always try to build off of your own potential and strengths, let your new found potential lead you into an even more independent frame of mind, realize that you don't need others to guide you(that includes people around you and your family), read books and seek guidance from the classics, smile all the time, become cynical, be able to laugh at tragedy without being ignorant of the fact that there is tragedy in what your are laughing at, understand the patterns in the universe, and base every action you make on a truly significant set of priorities. The idea of what a funeral should be is sad. The concept itself is idiotic. So laugh.

Social = trivial. Fun happens naturally. Have a sense of humor. People nowadays are constantly texting. People nowadays are retarded and better off dead.
Life can be a subtle roller coaster without seeking their approval.

ilikesound93
10/21/09, 01:48 PM
^ You're a sixteen year old guy?

BryterJonah
10/21/09, 01:59 PM
^ You're a sixteen year old guy?
I'm a sixteen year old boy.

Juniper Skies
10/21/09, 02:07 PM
I lent you three minutes and thirty seconds, where can I redeem this?

Sorry for wasting your time.

To everyone else thanks. I will look into some other social services. I hadn't really thought of half the stuff.

And If I did drop out, it'd be only for a year or so. Until something gets stabilized.

swirlofhues
10/21/09, 02:10 PM
i think you should take a semester off or become a part time student. there is nothing wrong with being behind a semester to help your family situation, people do it all the time and they do go back to school. you're only going to have your grades drop because of this added stress. you're halfway into your semester/quarter, i'm assuming, so it wouldn't do any good to just drop out now. you've paid for these classes, invested time into your studies, that you shouldn't drop out now. your family will be able to manage for a couple months longer without you if you try and reach other to other people (like the churches/organizations mentioned above). i just wanted to let you know you have the option of taking time off and not becoming a 'failure' like people are indicating haha

Waldorf
10/21/09, 02:51 PM
fk76rsV71S0

Go to college, have a positive attitude, no negative friends, don't spout that bs about not wanting "drama" because being on the right path means being virtually free of the very concept, pin down a specific subject you'd like to major in, then become enthusiastic and unnaturally giddy when thinking about it, realize members of your family are only humans, believe in your own potential, always to to build off of your own potential and strengths, let your new found potential lead you into an even more independent frame of mind, realize that you don't need others to guide you(that includes people around you and your family), read books and seek guidance from the classics, smile all the time, become cynical, be able to laugh at tragedy without being ignorant of the fact that there is tragedy in what your are laughing at, understand the patterns in the universe, and base every action you make on a truly significant set of priorities. The idea of what a funeral should be is sad. The concept itself is idiotic. So laugh.

Social = trivial. Fun happens naturally. Have a sense of humor. People nowadays are constantly texting. People nowadays are retarded and better off dead.
Life can be a subtle roller coaster without seeking their approval.
Perfect post, bro. You're an awesome dude.

makeshiftmind
10/21/09, 03:21 PM
Sorry for wasting your time.

To everyone else thanks. I will look into some other social services. I hadn't really thought of half the stuff.

And If I did drop out, it'd be only for a year or so. Until something gets stabilized.
naw I'm just studying for midterm and I'm just not really feeling like reading much more, but good luck in your future endevours! :suave:

kbi the crowing
10/21/09, 03:22 PM
I would suggest not dropping out, at least stay a part time student and yeah look into social services and charities and such around your area.

Juniper Skies
10/21/09, 03:41 PM
fk76rsV71S0

Go to college, have a positive attitude, no negative friends, don't spout that bs about not wanting "drama" because being on the right path means being virtually free of the very concept, pin down a specific subject you'd like to major in, then become enthusiastic and unnaturally giddy when thinking about it, realize members of your family are only humans, believe in your own potential, always try to build off of your own potential and strengths, let your new found potential lead you into an even more independent frame of mind, realize that you don't need others to guide you(that includes people around you and your family), read books and seek guidance from the classics, smile all the time, become cynical, be able to laugh at tragedy without being ignorant of the fact that there is tragedy in what your are laughing at, understand the patterns in the universe, and base every action you make on a truly significant set of priorities. The idea of what a funeral should be is sad. The concept itself is idiotic. So laugh.

Social = trivial. Fun happens naturally. Have a sense of humor. People nowadays are constantly texting. People nowadays are retarded and better off dead.
Life can be a subtle roller coaster without seeking their approval.

Thanks for the philosophical trip. I meant it, seriously.

Plus I happened to catch that episode a little while back. The Flaming Lips are fantastic. And thank you for going out of your way to respond to my post.

Correction.

Thank you EVERYONE for your time.

anthonydarko
10/21/09, 03:52 PM
It might be late but stay in school and think positive, it'll take you a long way in this world.

zion the lion
10/21/09, 04:22 PM
Drop out.

Set a date for when you'll go back, help out in the meantime. And when the date rolls around again, go back to school, no matter what. No excuses, no procrastinating, no "I'll go back when I can" just do it. Apparently quite a few people in this thread cant truly imagine your situation, dropping out isnt a death wish, it doesnt mean you'll go nowhere in life, it just means that there are things that are way more important than being a full time student.

And if dropping out freaks you out too much, just become a part time student, and work.

.invisible ink.
10/21/09, 04:33 PM
i am so sorry for what you've gone through. most people don't experience that sort of pain in a lifetime let alone before they're even 20. hang in there. don't drop out of school even though it's possible you will go back, it's not worth getting sucked into a situation that you're not fully responsible for. you need to seek the help of a therapist and guidance counselor because you should not have to deal with this on your own. they have access to public services that most of us aren't aware of. I understand you're worried about your mom but you need to look out for yourself first and foremost at this point. Only once you've gotten yourself together can you really help your mom. Good luck. :(

.invisible ink.
10/21/09, 04:35 PM
Drop out.

Set a date for when you'll go back, help out in the meantime. And when the date rolls around again, go back to school, no matter what. No excuses, no procrastinating, no "I'll go back when I can" just do it. Apparently quite a few people in this thread cant truly imagine your situation, dropping out isnt a death wish, it doesnt mean you'll go nowhere in life, it just means that there are things that are way more important than being a full time student.

And if dropping out freaks you out too much, just become a part time student, and work.

dropping out might not be a "death wish" but even in the BEST of circumstances it's hard to motivate yourself to go back to school when you're dealing with other things or even if you're just used to earning a living. Trust me, I've actually BEEN THERE and DONE THAT. I dropped out and DID go back and finish my Bachelor's degree (and intend on getting my Master's soon), but it was *damn* hard. I'm sorry but in this instance, I don't think taking the advice of 15 or 16 year olds who have never been in college or had to pay their own bills is really the right way to go. Sorry for pulling the age card but experience does count for something once in a while.

zion the lion
10/21/09, 04:43 PM
dropping out might not be a "death wish" but even in the BEST of circumstances it's hard to motivate yourself to go back to school when you're dealing with other things or even if you're just used to earning a living. Trust me, I've actually BEEN THERE and DONE THAT. I dropped out and DID go back and finish my Bachelor's degree (and intend on getting my Master's soon), but it was *damn* hard. I'm sorry but in this instance, I don't think taking the advice of 15 or 16 year olds who have never been in college or had to pay their own bills is really the right way to go. Sorry for pulling the age card but experience does count for something once in a while.

I may be 17 but I have been in situations like it. I've had to leave school, and I do plan on going back. My mom had to drop out of college, and had to jump through extra hoops to get back in to college because she never took her SATs and ended up getting her bachelors, and is planning to get her masters soon. Its hard, but it's doable, especially when staying in school full time isnt the best option for your family at the moment.

punkrockmedic
10/21/09, 05:55 PM
Thanks for the philosophical trip. I meant it, seriously.

Plus I happened to catch that episode a little while back. The Flaming Lips are fantastic. And thank you for going out of your way to respond to my post.

Correction.

Thank you EVERYONE for your time.

You and I have endured similar situations. Due to my grandmother's mental and physical illnesses. We were homeless for a good year. My sister and I would live with friends. While my grandmother lived in our van. She eventually was put in a halfway house, and my sister and I were put in a foster home. Needless to say things were rough for a while. Actually life was rough up until being put in that foster home.( Way too long of a story to tell). Just remember this; do the things that will make you happy, even when it seems impossible to be happy. Surround yourself with friends, and I mean real friends. Remember, you've already made it this far, and you're still OK. So don't give up on your own life.

DON'T DROP OUT! I've heard that story so many times as to dropping out and then going back. 9/10 times people don't go back. It's up to you and only you to make your life what it is.

Back_in_Anger
10/21/09, 06:39 PM
Overcome your adversity and write a book on your experiences. That's a fucking interesting/insane story. Oh and don't drop out.

jesse_hitz
10/21/09, 08:25 PM
Wow what a amazing story. Honestly thanks for sharing that, it's pretty incredible. It's hard to do but sometimes we must learn to look after ourselves and start are own future, even if it means stepping out of your mothers life full-time. I think you should focus on you but at the same time try and have a good relationship with your mother and support her emotionally by talking and calling her, but by no means should you put your future on hold.

thestagemen
10/22/09, 12:06 AM
I'd have to agree with the masses here, stay in school. I know the university I'm at voids all your financial aid if you drop out, and if you have any loans or scholarships that would be detrimental. If nothing else, in my opinion, right now it's your best shot to help your family in the long run. Ride it out until you can get your degree and hopefully by the time you graduate this economic shit storm will have passed.

I know for a fact that most churches (well, at least the ones that are worth their salt) have a specific part of their budget set aside for circumstances like this. I'm sure you're campus probably has some religious/volunteer organizations that you could look in to for help. They may not be able to help out financially, but they'd typically are more than happy to lend a helping hand, or provide some sort of emotional support. A majority of college campuses also have councilors and therapists that are more than happy to chat with students and help them through tough decisions, many of whom are happy to see you free of charge. A handful of my friends see the therapist on campus just to have an unbiased ear to listen to them.

The United Way and other similar organizations would certainly be an excellent place to look into as well, if you're in Pittsburgh I'm sure there have got to be a few places like that available.

Someone mentioned earlier finding someone on your campus that speaks Korean, that sounds like a brilliant idea to me, especially if they're someone you can trust or even an exchange student looking to learn about immigration in America.

ted is lying
10/22/09, 05:54 AM
That is what he said....

zachff
10/22/09, 07:53 AM
Well honestly, you've got quite the fucking essay written. At some point you've got to start looking out for yourself. You'll always have your family and feel emotions toward them, yes, but it doesn't sound like in the last 5 years they've been there for you. As much as it sucks distance yourself, get an education and a good job, and try to help them out when you can. But don't let their shit hold you back.

denissuxx
10/22/09, 11:28 AM
Get an education

iAMhollyood315
10/22/09, 11:28 AM
its a shame all you have gone through growing up. i think your mom needs some professional help to deal with the issues she has gone through so she can get her life back on track. I think you should help her get the help she needs but dropping out of college is a big situation as once you do it, you might never return or feel you can't for one reason or another. I think you have yourself together and want to live a positive life and do something with it and not follow the same path as the rest of your family. Its a tough decision, but in any situation their comes a sacrifice and its up to you what you want to ultimately sacrifice. I wish you the best of luck and hope things are looking up for you and your family.

DWill
10/22/09, 11:35 AM
Live your life for you. You can't give it all away to others.

You have one life, live it!

Juniper Skies
10/22/09, 06:10 PM
Haha thanks for all your support/suggestions. Well, I'm definitely going to ask my guidance office at my school, that is if I can find it. The damn campus is huge.

For now I am going to keep attending my university and if things go wonky, I'll drop down to part-time. It sucks though since half my courses right now are year-long courses so I won't even be able to grab the credit if I stop this term.

And yeah, as I stated in the title, it was going to be long. Haha I really need to get a grasp on summarizing. Sorry guys.

Reaver
10/23/09, 02:03 AM
wow, there's almost no sarcasm here. not even an anal comment. I'm impressed, pl. ;)

on topic, well i don't really have any real suggestions, so I'll just stick with a "I hope everything works out fine" comment.