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Chromefox
10/22/09, 04:44 PM
I'm currently attempting to enroll in college in the States. I'm also currently debating whether it would be less painful and time consuming to die of MS.
I'd love if any other Canadians, or international students in general, would relate their experiences taking the SAT, acquiring their visas, and donating organs to the post-secondary institutions.
I feel like this thread should end in "FML".
TheOtherAndrew
10/22/09, 06:06 PM
The SAT is fucking easy, acquiring a visa is the biggest bitch in the world.
ascitiesburn101
10/24/09, 08:34 AM
I don't know about any of the other shit, as I've lived here through high school, but the girls love the accent.
BryterJonah
10/24/09, 11:28 AM
You guys make fantastic comedians. Be one.
Poe-tryGirl
10/24/09, 02:10 PM
I don't know about any of the other shit, as I've lived here through high school, but the girls love the accent.
I really do not like Canadian accents.
BryterJonah
10/24/09, 02:37 PM
Anyone remember that show Aliens In America? I thought it had plenty of potential.
Poe-tryGirl
10/24/09, 02:56 PM
Nah. It reminds me of Pygmy though. That should be a movie.
TheOtherAndrew
10/24/09, 10:48 PM
I really do not like Canadian accents.
Your loss.
Chromefox
10/24/09, 11:08 PM
Enlightening, all of you.
TheOtherAndrew
10/25/09, 12:01 AM
Enlightening, all of you.
I try.
For me, in order to get a visa I had to get accepted into school first. Once LSU accepted me I had to go through a process of providing the American government with a TON of documentation, and then I got my visa at the border. Your visa will generally let you stay in the country for far longer than you'll need to graduate (mine expires in 2013), but once you graduate or lose your status as a full-time student, it becomes invalid. So if you don't want to go back to Canada, you have to have a plan for staying in the country after graduation (getting a green card, getting employed before you have to leave, whatever). Also, you obviously have to get a passport. Which is not hard.
As for taking the SAT, just don't overthink it. They give courses down here on how to properly approach the test. I took one of those courses before taking it for a second time, and my score actually went down. Just go in, take the test as calmly as you can, and don't worry about it. If you get a bad score, you can just retake it soon afterwards. I have no idea how you would go about actually taking it in Canada because I took it in the U.S., but I'm sure a quick google search could find that for you. An ACT score really helps you get into a lot of American schools too, so you might want to look into that.
Chromefox
10/25/09, 12:11 AM
Have passport, also know I have to drive to Calgary to have an interview with the US Consulate as part of the visa application process. Aware I must be accepted first: since that is priority, I'm not really bothering with the rest at the moment. Can't do much about it.
Done the SAT, studied for a month, pissed all over the reading and writing, but don't feel great about the math. I'll find out for sure on the 29th. Taking it a second time just for good measure on Nov 7th. Thank GOD I live on the US border, or I'd have to have traveled to Vancouver (9 hours) to take it on some date that was far too late to be of use to me.
Thanks Andrew, for relating, haha. It's nice to bitch to someone who understands the process. That's what I wanted from this thread.
Chromefox
10/25/09, 12:15 AM
For me, in order to get a visa I had to get accepted into school first. Once LSU accepted me I had to go through a process of providing the American government with a TON of documentation, and then I got my visa at the border. Actually, I do have a question about this.
Is it enough to visit Customs on the border, see what they want of me, provide the documents, and receive a visa, or is it actually necessary for me to drive 6 hours to the embassy in Calgary to have an interview with the Consulate in order to obtain a visa?
If it were the former, it would make my life so much easier, you have no idea, because I literally live a 10 minute drive from Customs. I am so close to the border I have a US post box.
TheOtherAndrew
10/25/09, 12:40 AM
Have passport, also know I have to drive to Calgary to have an interview with the US Consulate as part of the visa application process. Aware I must be accepted first: since that is priority, I'm not really bothering with the rest at the moment. Can't do much about it.
Hmm. I wasn't aware you'd have to interview with the US Consulate. That must be just for people who weren't already US residents when they applied. Do you have any idea what the interview involves?
Done the SAT, studied for a month, pissed all over the reading and writing, but don't feel great about the math. I'll find out for sure on the 29th. Taking it a second time just for good measure on Nov 7th. Thank GOD I live on the US border, or I'd have to have traveled to Vancouver (9 hours) to take it on some date that was far too late to be of use to me.
Ewwwww. That's just fucking ridiculous. They have testing centers everywhere here. So you just took it somewhere in northern Seattle?
Thanks Andrew, for relating, haha. It's nice to bitch to someone who understands the process. That's what I wanted from this thread.
:bow: believe me, it is indeed a bitch. especially since I've lived here since I was 9, but I don't have the abilities that most of my friends do. like, if I just wanted to suddenly move to California, it would be a long, drawn out process that would cost way too much and take years. It sucks. I need to find me a nice American girl to marry so this shit can be over with.
Actually, I do have a question about this.
Is it enough to visit Customs on the border, see what they want of me, provide the documents, and receive a visa, or is it actually necessary for me to drive 6 hours to the embassy in Calgary to have an interview with the Consulate in order to obtain a visa?
If it were the former, it would make my life so much easier, you have no idea, because I literally live a 10 minute drive from Customs. I am so close to the border I have a US post box.
Ohhhhhh, well to be honest with you I didn't have to go to do any interview. I really just went to the border, presented customs with my stuff (including my letter of approval for a visa from LSU) and they just stapled my new visa into my passport and let me go. So yeah, I'd imagine that it would be the same thing with you, though I would definitely consult someone who knows what they're talking about (i.e. an immigration attorney) because they would definitely be more reliable than my god awful memory. Then again, since its just a 10 minute drive from you anyway, it couldn't hurt to just drive down and ask I suppose.
Be careful when you're dealing with customs officials though. The American ones are GIANT assholes who will make your life miserable at any chance they get.
Chromefox
10/25/09, 01:43 AM
The people at our border are great guys; we drive down there every other week. I bet I do have to go through the interview process, as a result of not residing in the states like you did. But since I need to go pick up a package Monday, I'll just ask them.
I took my SAT in Northern Idaho instead, yeah. Still had to drive 2 hours, but whatever.
I have absolutely no idea what the interview entails, other than making me feel queasy.
NeededYouMost
10/25/09, 08:25 AM
I don't know about any of the other shit, as I've lived here through high school, but the girls love the accent.
I lived here (Georgia) since 1999, i was 12or13. I had to lose the accent, it wasn't helping me in any way. I hear now that my friends say I use to sound all goofy and proper.
I'm currently attempting to enroll in college in the States. I'm also currently debating whether it would be less painful and time consuming to die of MS.
I'd love if any other Canadians, or international students in general, would relate their experiences taking the SAT, acquiring their visas, and donating organs to the post-secondary institutions.
I feel like this thread should end in "FML".
Seeing that you're 20, i'm questioning whether you need to take the SAT. Have you attended college/university in Canada? What you need to do is call the school you want to apply to and they will tell you how to get in, they will tell you who to speak to, what they want from you, and what you need in order to get across the border. A lot of schools want international students. If you have a decent GPA, being an international student is quite lucky. Call up city schools, like NYU or Columbia (both in New York) or head to Califiornia (their schools are very easy to get into when it comes to admissions criteria and GPA) So call up and visit the website of USC and UCLA and such big state schools in Cali. They'll tell you if you need to take the SAT, but I don't think international students do, it's a test catered to Americans, so it's biased towards other cultures thus irrelevant. Other schools that are very welcoming of International Students:
Duke, UNC (preferably chapel Hill), all Ivy league of course, Boston, Upenn(ivy), any schools in Chicago, New York, New Jersey, Cali,
and Florida.
Actually, I do have a question about this.
Is it enough to visit Customs on the border, see what they want of me, provide the documents, and receive a visa, or is it actually necessary for me to drive 6 hours to the embassy in Calgary to have an interview with the Consulate in order to obtain a visa?
If it were the former, it would make my life so much easier, you have no idea, because I literally live a 10 minute drive from Customs. I am so close to the border I have a US post box.
I don't recommend driving to customs just to ask questions. Use the phone or use the internet (go to their website) but again, i recommend dealing with the schools, they know what to do and they are easier to talk to.
Chromefox
10/25/09, 12:31 PM
Thanks for the tips. :-)
Waldorf
10/25/09, 01:16 PM
I lived in the States for 4 years and moved back to Canada... last year. I'm applying to university this... I guess, November. So, similar dilemna I suppose, since I'll probably apply to lots of American universities simply because I'm only interested in maybe two Canadian ones.
Chromefox
10/26/09, 11:16 PM
I discussed the matter with the border guards today while I was picking up a parcel, and apparently all I need is a passport, the 1-20 form issued by the school, and my receipt for the CEEVIS fees. No embassy. No Interview. No arm and leg.
TheOtherAndrew
10/26/09, 11:17 PM
I discussed the matter with the border guards today while I was picking up a parcel, and apparently all I need is a passport, the 1-20 form issued by the school, and my receipt for the CEEVIS fees. No embassy. No Interview. No arm and leg.
Yeah, good. I was wondering where the interview came from.
Chromefox
10/26/09, 11:19 PM
Yeah, good. I was wondering where the interview came from. Apparently it applies to citizens of nationalities other than Canadian. Because we're America's hat.
TheOtherAndrew
10/26/09, 11:27 PM
Oh fuck yes (non-mexican) proximity!
Chromefox
10/26/09, 11:30 PM
If Canada is America's toque, and Mexico is America's beard, does that make America a lumberjack?
TheOtherAndrew
10/26/09, 11:32 PM
Once socialized healthcare happens, America will be cool enough to be a lumberjack. Until then its just a hairy dude with good taste in hats.
Chromefox
10/26/09, 11:41 PM
Actually, that brings me to a really good question that you may not be able to answer but needs to be asked anyways:
Canadians in America: Does Canada take care of its citizens if they're spending an extended period of time in America? I assume one would have to buy some kind of Canadian insurance which would cover costs, but isn't that moot? Since the alternative is to buy insurance in the states anyways?
TheOtherAndrew
10/26/09, 11:43 PM
No, if you're living in the States, you gotta buy American healthcare. Healthcare is based on residency, not citizenship.
Chromefox
10/26/09, 11:54 PM
Ah, figured as much. What does that entail for a 20 year old of average health? I figure I'd better make sure I'm covered while everyone is dropping dead of pig flu. :rolleyes:
Chromefox
10/28/09, 04:16 PM
SAT results tomorrow. If my math is above 500, I will be pleased.
Waldorf
10/28/09, 05:25 PM
If Canada is America's toque, and Mexico is America's beard, does that make America a lumberjack?
Canada is an oddly-shaped tuke.
theguy77
10/28/09, 06:06 PM
canada is more like america's kramer hair than hat.
behappy123
10/28/09, 06:31 PM
canada is more like america's kramer hair than hat.
You guys are idiots. At least people here are multicultural, nice, and don't have to take second mortgages on their houses in order to receive medical treatment. the list goes on. It's comments like this that proves that Americans think they are the center of the universe. Obamma only can save face for a while.
behappy123
10/28/09, 06:32 PM
Actually, that brings me to a really good question that you may not be able to answer but needs to be asked anyways:
Canadians in America: Does Canada take care of its citizens if they're spending an extended period of time in America? I assume one would have to buy some kind of Canadian insurance which would cover costs, but isn't that moot? Since the alternative is to buy insurance in the states anyways?
You need to look under the medicare website, it lists coverage for international medical expenses.
TheOtherAndrew
10/28/09, 07:06 PM
hey guys, I'd just like everyone here to know that I have absolutely no sense of humor whatsoever.
Thanks for the heads up.
TheOtherAndrew
10/28/09, 07:07 PM
Ah, figured as much. What does that entail for a 20 year old of average health? I figure I'd better make sure I'm covered while everyone is dropping dead of pig flu. :rolleyes:
:shrug: I'm covered on my parents' healthcare.
Chromefox
10/28/09, 07:09 PM
canada is more like america's kramer hair than hat. That must make America Kramer, and we all know what that means.
You know.
. . .
/Evan
behappy123
10/28/09, 07:11 PM
:-dThat must make America Kramer, and we all know what that means.
You know.
. . .
/Evan
theguy77
10/28/09, 07:20 PM
You guys are idiots. At least people here are multicultural, nice, and don't have to take second mortgages on their houses in order to receive medical treatment. the list goes on. It's comments like this that proves that Americans think they are the center of the universe. Obamma only can save face for a while.
hahahahahahahahaha
jesus,
1) way to be defensive about something that clearly isnt meant to be taken seriously... i was making a comment on how the country of canada is SHAPED. thats like me getting pissed off becuase someone says florida is america's penis.
2) way to make an assumption about all americans because of your off-base international perception. our medical treatment system isnt nearly as bad as a lot of people in other countries act like it is; in fact before you get on your elitist high horse because your government provides it (in a system which, ive heard, was actually still pretty inefficient and flawed), the most recent international prosperity ranking (http://www.prosperity.com/rankings.aspx)has you ranked at #22 for healthcare, which is only a few spots above where america was ranked. congratulations, you are like four countries ahead of us... on a scale of 104. and if you knew me at all you'd know i was a person who's quick to criticize my own country considering my own opinions are more liberal than you'd find on a typical democratic candidate; in fact, i wouldnt mind living in a country with a socialist party, maybe then we'd make some REAL economic progress. and i dont even know where you were going with your "multicultural" and "nice" comments -- its a clear demonstration of your flagrant ignorance that you're saying a country that's been flooded with immigration for over 150 years isnt "multicultural", and by assuming that 300 million people arent nice because your head's so far up your own country's ass that you judge an entire country's population by the rash actions of a presidential campaign, which the american citizens didnt even fucking approve of.
seriously it is the dumbest fucking thing that people from other countries have the nerve to criticize ALL americans so profusely and in such an ignorant manner without realizing the ignominious hypocrisy of their own patriotic elitism and judgment. the irony of your arrogance is asphyxiating.
Waldorf
10/28/09, 07:40 PM
hahahahahahahahaha
jesus,
1) way to be defensive about something that clearly isnt meant to be taken seriously... i was making a comment on how the country of canada is SHAPED. thats like me getting pissed off becuase someone says florida is america's penis.
2) way to make an assumption about all americans because of your off-base international perception. our medical treatment isnt nearly as bad as a lot of people in other countries act like it is; in fact before you get on your elitist high horse because your government provides it (in a system which, ive heard, was actually still pretty inefficient and flawed), the most recent international prosperity ranking (http://www.prosperity.com/rankings.aspx)has you ranked at #22 for healthcare, which is only a few spots above where america was ranked. congratulations, you are like four countries ahead of us... on a scale of 104. and if you knew me at all you'd know i was a person who's quick to criticize my own country considering my own opinions are more liberal than you'd find on a typical democratic candidate; in fact, i wouldnt mind living in a country with a socialist party, maybe then we'd make some REAL economic progress. and i dont even know where you were going with your "multicultural" and "nice" comments -- its a clear demonstration of your flagrant ignorance that you're saying a country that's been flooded with immigration for over 150 years isnt "multicultural", and by assuming that 300 million people arent nice because your head's so far up your own country's ass that you judge an entire country's population by the rash actions of a presidential campaign, which the american citizens didnt even fucking approve of.
seriously it is the dumbest fucking thing that people from other countries have the nerve to criticize ALL americans so profusely and in such an ignorant manner without realizing the ignominious hypocrisy of their own patriotic elitism and judgment. the irony of your arrogance is asphyxiating.
C'mon, let 'em feel the Illinoise!
behappy123
10/28/09, 07:46 PM
Alright I don't even want to fucking get into this really, but before this turns into a Canadian/American shitfest, I just wanted to say that I'm fucking tired of the view that "Americans are ignorant." Obviously there are Americans who are ignorant. But guess what, you fucking Canadians, there are a ton of ignorant Canadians too. Just as fucking hick, just as fucking stupid, just as fucking unhygenic... you fuckin' name it, Canada's got it probably even more than America does. I don't even know. The multiculturalism is bullshit; just because you open your fucking borders for way too long and let way too many people from the rest of the fucking world in with virtually no fucking security does not equate a good thing. The U.S.A. regulates their fuckin' immigrants and there are fewer problems because of it. I don't feel particularly cultured when a guy from who-the-fuck-knows-where nearly kills me because he never learned to fucking drive. I don't feel cultured because I go to school with a bunch of chicks who wear burkas. Sorry. I'm not saying they're bad, or that they shouldn't be here. I'm just saying that Canada had virtually no border security for too long and too many people were let in. Immigration needs to be regulated. Sorry. I'm not racist. That's just the truth. And nice? Man, I thought that Americans were fucking douchebags when I moved there. They made fun of me for being Canadian, sure. But ever since I've moved back here... damn. I'm sorry, Canadians aren't fucking nice. They're cold. Just like their weather. The restaurant service industry around here has gone to hell.
Canada needs to stop sitting in Kramer's hair and get their fucking act together. We act all supremist and we're like "oh, but we're better than the Americans." You're not, so stop lying that you are. If you want to be better, act. And fucking get better. I'm sure Canada is capable of it; being the best or whatever. So fucking do it. Stop sitting on your ass with a Molson's and a bag of weed and change the world, if you really fucking want. But that's always been Canada, hasn't it? Content to play second fiddle to anybody because we're lazy. Always have been.
I'm so fucking getting banned for this, and if I do, then I suppose so be it. I'm not insulting Canada or the United States. If anything, this is a strongly worded rally cry.
I'm Canadian.
Oh, and for the record, I liked the medicare better in the States.
Yeah.
Fuck you guys.
ahahahaha I actually thought people were serious. No seriously health care here is sucking right now too, I just am sad that people have to go broke in the states to get cancer treatment. A lot of people have told me that. :( I'm a student nurse so I care deeply about health care.
I don't know, I was in the heat of the moment as well. Honestly, I will probably move when I'm done school, because I'm sick of it here. I just want to help advocate for better health care and work with great Dr.'s like the one's at Oakland Children's hospital.
Chromefox
10/28/09, 07:49 PM
Why do we have to defend one country by shitting on the other one? Everybody, shut the fuck up. Get out of my thread unless you can grant me a visa or tell me something about applying to schools.
Canada has great points. And weak points. So does America. Now all of you stop acting like the weak points of both.
Alright I don't even want to fucking get into this really, but before this turns into a Canadian/American shitfest, I just wanted to say that I'm fucking tired of the view that "Americans are ignorant." Obviously there are Americans who are ignorant. But guess what, you fucking Canadians, there are a ton of ignorant Canadians too. Just as fucking hick, just as fucking stupid, just as fucking unhygenic... you fuckin' name it, Canada's got it probably even more than America does. I don't even know. The multiculturalism is bullshit; just because you open your fucking borders for way too long and let way too many people from the rest of the fucking world in with virtually no fucking security does not equate a good thing. The U.S.A. regulates their fuckin' immigrants and there are fewer problems because of it. I don't feel particularly cultured when a guy from who-the-fuck-knows-where nearly kills me because he never learned to fucking drive. I don't feel cultured because I go to school with a bunch of chicks who wear burkas. Sorry. I'm not saying they're bad, or that they shouldn't be here. I'm just saying that Canada had virtually no border security for too long and too many people were let in. Immigration needs to be regulated. Sorry. I'm not racist. That's just the truth. And nice? Man, I thought that Americans were fucking douchebags when I moved there. They made fun of me for being Canadian, sure. But ever since I've moved back here... damn. I'm sorry, Canadians aren't fucking nice. They're cold. Just like their weather. The restaurant service industry around here has gone to hell.
Canada needs to stop sitting in Kramer's hair and get their fucking act together. We act all supremist and we're like "oh, but we're better than the Americans." You're not, so stop lying that you are. If you want to be better, act. And fucking get better. I'm sure Canada is capable of it; being the best or whatever. So fucking do it. Stop sitting on your ass with a Molson's and a bag of weed and change the world, if you really fucking want. But that's always been Canada, hasn't it? Content to play second fiddle to anybody because we're lazy. Always have been.
I'm so fucking getting banned for this, and if I do, then I suppose so be it. I'm not insulting Canada or the United States. If anything, this is a strongly worded rally cry.
I'm Canadian.
Oh, and for the record, I liked the medicare better in the States.
Yeah.
Fuck you guys. I am deeply offended by this post. You're no better than the poster you responded to. You're a horrible example of both a Canadian and an American. Congratufuckinglations on proving everyone's point about ignorance and prejudice, for both sides.
Tristan Needler
10/28/09, 08:12 PM
Alright I don't even want to fucking get into this really, but before this turns into a Canadian/American shitfest, I just wanted to say that I'm fucking tired of the view that "Americans are ignorant." Obviously there are Americans who are ignorant. But guess what, you fucking Canadians, there are a ton of ignorant Canadians too. Just as fucking hick, just as fucking stupid, just as fucking unhygenic... you fuckin' name it, Canada's got it probably even more than America does. I don't even know. The multiculturalism is bullshit; just because you open your fucking borders for way too long and let way too many people from the rest of the fucking world in with virtually no fucking security does not equate a good thing. The U.S.A. regulates their fuckin' immigrants and there are fewer problems because of it. I don't feel particularly cultured when a guy from who-the-fuck-knows-where nearly kills me because he never learned to fucking drive. I don't feel cultured because I go to school with a bunch of chicks who wear burkas. Sorry. I'm not saying they're bad, or that they shouldn't be here. I'm just saying that Canada had virtually no border security for too long and too many people were let in. Immigration needs to be regulated. Sorry. I'm not racist. That's just the truth. And nice? Man, I thought that Americans were fucking douchebags when I moved there. They made fun of me for being Canadian, sure. But ever since I've moved back here... damn. I'm sorry, Canadians aren't fucking nice. They're cold. Just like their weather. The restaurant service industry around here has gone to hell.
Canada needs to stop sitting in Kramer's hair and get their fucking act together. We act all supremist and we're like "oh, but we're better than the Americans." You're not, so stop lying that you are. If you want to be better, act. And fucking get better. I'm sure Canada is capable of it; being the best or whatever. So fucking do it. Stop sitting on your ass with a Molson's and a bag of weed and change the world, if you really fucking want. But that's always been Canada, hasn't it? Content to play second fiddle to anybody because we're lazy. Always have been.
I'm so fucking getting banned for this, and if I do, then I suppose so be it. I'm not insulting Canada or the United States. If anything, this is a strongly worded rally cry.
I'm Canadian.
Oh, and for the record, I liked the medicare better in the States.
Yeah.
Fuck you guys.
You were obviously corrupted by the horrible Americans. Don't worry, now that you're back, we'll do our best to fix you.
Waldorf
10/28/09, 08:17 PM
It's so cold and rainy here.
Tristan Needler
10/28/09, 08:19 PM
In all seriousness, the reason Canada is generally seen as more multicultural than the US, is that American immigrants more often adopt the American culture and become Americans (Italian-American, Asian-American, whatever) than most in Canada do. In Canada immigrants more frequently keep their own culture, and it is (on average) more accepted and allowed to grow within Canada, rather than the large portion of Americans who hold the "if you're coming here, you're doing things our way, if you don't like it, leave," mentality.
I don't see what's wrong with a more open and accepting border. Not everyone needs to be paranoid about terrorists all the time.
theguy77
10/28/09, 08:40 PM
In all seriousness, the reason Canada is generally seen as more multicultural than the US, is that American immigrants more often adopt the American culture and become Americans (Italian-American, Asian-American, whatever) than most in Canada do. In Canada immigrants more frequently keep their own culture, and it is (on average) more accepted and allowed to grow within Canada, rather than the large portion of Americans who hold the "if you're coming here, you're doing things our way, if you don't like it, leave," mentality.
i think this is more in theory than actuality -- i think the hybridized cultures are usually cultivated with children whose parents were immigrants but who were raised through american schools. a heaping majority of the asian and hispanic friends ive had over the course of my lifetime were raised by parents who are still very much tethered to their own cultural convictions. in any case, i feel like a more homogenized culture can be more efficient and reduce friction between ethnic boundaries. while i am quick to retort against those who are unwelcoming to other cultures, its best if common ground can be found somewhere as opposed to letting the tension that comes from strict, unreconcilable differences fester into separatism. america already has a HUGE cultural rift between underclass african-american communities and the mainstream culture, where white flight and the subsequent decay of infrastructure in inner-city areas has led to separatism and a reduction in civil propriety among focused minority communities. this in itself sustains a lot of problems even after the root cause of them had been abolished by law 50 years ago, and when foreign cultures fail to hybridize or at least integrate with the general culture of america, it can create more of the same issues because of a lack of connection within our borders.
I don't see what's wrong with a more open and accepting border. Not everyone needs to be paranoid about terrorists all the time.
well aside from the new version of the red scare weve been having since 9/11, there are a lot of issues that arise from allowing this much immigration, most of them economic. you'd have to ask someone more informed on the specifics, but there have been consequences in the past and strain on the country's financial infrastructure from the fact that our gates used to be so flooded, and now weve got 300 million people we have no idea how to support during this mini-depression we're in. america has historically been a massive immigration hotspot and i dont think we truthfully ever have been fully prepared for the sheer volume of people who have come here to pursue opportunity.
behappy123
10/28/09, 08:43 PM
In all seriousness, the reason Canada is generally seen as more multicultural than the US, is that American immigrants more often adopt the American culture and become Americans (Italian-American, Asian-American, whatever) than most in Canada do. In Canada immigrants more frequently keep their own culture, and it is (on average) more accepted and allowed to grow within Canada, rather than the large portion of Americans who hold the "if you're coming here, you're doing things our way, if you don't like it, leave," mentality.
I don't see what's wrong with a more open and accepting border. Not everyone needs to be paranoid about terrorists all the time.
Yeah you make a good point. I think people should be able to keep their original identity.
I have no clue about the border stuff though lol
Chromefox
10/28/09, 08:44 PM
Can someone who has taken the SAT tell me what time the results are usually posted by on results day? Kthx.
Tristan Needler
10/28/09, 08:48 PM
Right, and what I'm saying makes Canada more multi-cultural is that that tension is nearly non-existent. Many people here grow up with immigrant parents in public Canadian schools, yet continue keep the culture of their parents. Of course this happens in America as well, but it's more prevalent in Canada, and it's less awkward. One of our good friends is a devout Muslim, and while he'd never touch alcohol and believes it's wrong, he hangs out with us while we drink, and there's no pressure for him to drink or anything, and no sense from anyone that it's in any way strange or abnormal that he can have a totally separate culture and system of beliefs, but can still still hang out with us and have a great time.
Tristan Needler
10/28/09, 08:49 PM
Can someone who has taken the SAT tell me what time the results are usually posted by on results day? Kthx.
You already took them?
My results were mailed to me...
Chromefox
10/28/09, 08:51 PM
You already took them?
My results were mailed to me... Yeah, Oct 10th. The results are posted on the 29th. I'm biting my nails.
theguy77
10/28/09, 08:59 PM
Right, and what I'm saying makes Canada more multi-cultural is that that tension is nearly non-existent. Many people here grow up with immigrant parents in public Canadian schools, yet continue keep the culture of their parents. Of course this happens in America as well, but it's more prevalent in Canada, and it's less awkward. One of our good friends is a devout Muslim, and while he'd never touch alcohol and believes it's wrong, he hangs out with us while we drink, and there's no pressure for him to drink or anything, and no sense from anyone that it's in any way strange or abnormal that he can have a totally separate culture and system of beliefs, but can still still hang out with us and have a great time.
its not generally strange or abnormal here either. i wasnt saying that it was unacceptable for someone to have a separate culture or system of beliefs; you get that a lot in urban areas and at universities in particular. what im asking is why it supposedly makes america less multi-cultural if the families of different ethnic origin if they adopt specific american values that dont necessarily override their own cultural values, but can coexist with them in a manner that enables them to integrate.
Chromefox
10/30/09, 02:43 PM
Can you guys tell me if colleges generally accept photocopies, stamped and signed, of one's transcript?
See, in Canada, the Ministry of Education keeps our transcripts, not the schools, which means I would have to apply to the Ministry for additional official copies of my transcript which they would then mail out to the institutions of my choosing. The catch is that this costs money for every address and every copy.
In addition, three colleges want my transcript verified by WES, a process which will cost me $200 US to complete, nevermind whether or not I can get both of these requirements done in a month and a half.
What the fuck do I doooooooooooooooooooo?
swirlofhues
10/31/09, 02:09 AM
i'm almost 99% sure that it has to be officially sent out by your school and not by you.
Chromefox
10/31/09, 11:38 PM
i'm almost 99% sure that it has to be officially sent out by your school and not by you. I spoke to my school, and they refused to mail it because they don't mail to the states, though I offered to pay the postage.
swirlofhues
10/31/09, 11:51 PM
I spoke to my school, and they refused to mail it because they don't mail to the states, though I offered to pay the postage.
is it possible for them to just fax it? it would seem like the easiest bet.
Chromefox
11/01/09, 12:14 AM
is it possible for them to just fax it? it would seem like the easiest bet. I have no idea if that can even be done, or if they want to. Frankly, the easiest thing is for me to not have to deal those fuckwits again and do it all myself. I've sent emails to every college asking if I can do it myself. I have no idea. I'm going to go on a rampage.
mooshthedoosh
11/01/09, 12:55 AM
canadians are the bomb
theguy77
11/01/09, 01:29 AM
canadians are the bomb
that they are i love the canadian posters i talk to on a regular basis
Waldorf
11/02/09, 06:16 PM
i ran into some dumb canadians the other day
Kozzy333
11/02/09, 06:32 PM
I read in an article in English class that the idea that Canada is more multicultural was bullshit and that Canadian immigrants are more likely to integrate into mainstream society than American immigrants.
Waldorf
11/02/09, 07:01 PM
I read in an article in English class that the idea that Canada is more multicultural was bullshit and that Canadian immigrants are more likely to integrate into mainstream society than American immigrants.
is it just me or does your wording seem to make the article either contradict itself or not know the definition of multicultural
Kozzy333
11/02/09, 07:39 PM
is it just me or does your wording seem to make the article either contradict itself or not know the definition of multicultural
Probably my wording. Maybe multicultural was the wrong word. Fuck it.
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