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bossydacow

04/24/03, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by WithStamin
Look here. (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&e=14&u=/ap/20030424/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_annan_2)

Who here hates Kofi? *raises hand*

He thinks he's president of the world and everyone should answer to him.

Annan said the coalition decision to act "created deep divisions that will need to be bridged if we are to deal effectively, not just with the aftermath in Iraq, but with other major challenges on the international agenda."

and he's right about that.
By the way, when are you guys going to drop the America-can-do-no-wrong attitude?

Safetyin#

04/24/03, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by bossydacow

By the way, when are you guys going to drop the America-can-do-no-wrong attitude?

the same day you drop the America-can-do-no-right act.

yeat182

04/24/03, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by Safetyin#
the same day you drop the America-can-do-no-right act.

haha...burn.

Alex Djaferis

04/25/03, 03:00 AM

i dont mind kofi. his hearts in the right place. and seriously, hes had a shit time lately.

Alex Djaferis

04/25/03, 03:01 AM

bossydacow

04/25/03, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by Safetyin#
the same day you drop the America-can-do-no-right act.

its the fact that I know that America is capable of doing right - especially in the Iraq situation -, but choose the wrong way of going about things, that bothers me. I've never said America can do no right. But they do do alot of wrong. I love America, and I want this country to gain back the honor Bush forfeited so he could satisfy his hunger for power. Its you guys, who sit around pointing the fingers at everyone but America that aren't helping the situation. Postive change starts from within oneself. If we (America) want to move towards world peace, we have to make some serious changes first (cough*get Bushmustnotgetreelected*cough).

Safetyin#

04/25/03, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by bossydacow
its the fact that I know that America is capable of doing right - especially in the Iraq situation -, but choose the wrong way of going about things, that bothers me. I've never said America can do no right. But they do do alot of wrong. I love America, and I want this country to gain back the honor Bush forfeited so he could satisfy his hunger for power. Its you guys, who sit around pointing the fingers at everyone but America that aren't helping the situation. Postive change starts from within oneself. If we (America) want to move towards world peace, we have to make some serious changes first (cough*get Bushmustnotgetreelected*cough).

That my friend is a personal opinion i guess, cause i personally feel Clinton did alot more to harm this country then Bush every will (what honor did clinton have?).
coughnorthkoreacough, coughdiscrasedthejobofpresidencycou gh, coughruledbypollsinsteadingdoingwha twasrightforthecountrycough.

bossydacow

04/26/03, 05:26 AM

Originally posted by Safetyin#
That my friend is a personal opinion i guess, cause i personally feel Clinton did alot more to harm this country then Bush every will (what honor did clinton have?).
coughnorthkoreacough, coughdiscrasedthejobofpresidencycou gh, coughruledbypollsinsteadingdoingwha twasrightforthecountrycough.

hey- I am no fucking fan of Clinton either. How can we trust a man who betrays his own wife, and mother of his child, to care about the rest of the nation,most of whom he doesn't even know? However, some 80% of husbands will cheat on their wives, so since the majority of the men in the world could probably relate to Clinton's situation, in their hearts I bet they couldn't care less what the man did in his personal life. What's more dangerous - a blow job (an act of affection) or blowing up a country that hasn't attacked our country (an act of mass destruction) ?and every opionion given in this forum is personal. Political affiliation is personal.

and Bush makes Americans look like self-absorbed jerks. He needs to go.

WithStamin

04/26/03, 06:42 AM

some 80% of husbands will cheat on their wives Whoa! Where are you getting this number from?a blow job (an act of affection) Try a blow job (an act of lust and lack of self control) and Freeing a nation supressed by an evil tryant with weapons of mass destruction (an act of liberation)
and Bush makes Americans look like self-absorbed jerks. He needs to go. Who of the democratic candidates would be better? Kerry? What a joke!

BrandNewRock05

04/26/03, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow

and Bush makes Americans look like self-absorbed jerks. He needs to go.
you are one dumb, naive bitch

Safetyin#

04/26/03, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
However, some 80% of husbands will cheat on their wives, so since the majority of the men in the world could probably relate to Clinton's situation,

a survey by the National Opinion Research Center in Chicago determined that only about 4 percent of married people had sexual partners other than their spouse during a one-year span. Overall, infidelity has been practiced by only 21 percent of men and 13 percent of women, according to the survey

where did you get 80%? From the DNC maybe?

Alex Djaferis

04/26/03, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
you are one dumb, naive bitch

dude actualy he has a point. im not slacking off the american ppl cuz i know alot of amazing americans, actually most of the ones i know rule...however, UNFORTUNATELY the image that bush portrays (which isnt all the positive internationally) gets picked up by the ppl of different countries, and then they stereotype that all americans must be the same. its sad i know. but it does exist.

Stompemplay

04/27/03, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
you are one dumb, naive bitch

I dont come on to the political forum that much because i have views that can be changed by persuasion (unlike everyone else here)

but it is true, the image of Americans to EVERYONE else is selfabsorbed pigs. And Bush is only making that image stand out more.

bossydacow

04/27/03, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by Safetyin#
where did you get 80%? From the DNC maybe?

Cosmo, actually. And I'm not a democrat.
Also:

"According to Peggy Vaughan, author of "The Monogamy Myth," first published in 1989 by Newmarket Press, re-issued in 1998 by the same publisher.
"Conservative estimates are that 60 percent of men and 40 percent of women will have an extramarital affair. These figures are even more significant when we consider the total number of marriages involved, since it's unlikely that all the men and women having affairs happen to be married to each other. If even half of the women having affairs (or 20 percent) are married to men not included in the 60 percent having affairs, then at least one partner will have an affair in approximately 80 percent of all marriages. With this many marriages affected, it's unreasonable to think affairs are due only to the failures and shortcomings of individual husbands or wives."

Note that the above assessments of the prevalence of affairs were made about a decade ago; so based on changes in society during the intervening years, the current percentage of the population who have had affairs is probably somewhat HIGHER. For instance, the continuing increase of women in the workplace and the increase of women having affairs on the Internet means that the numbers for women having affairs is probably similar to those for men—about 60%.

So:
I mixed up: its 80% of ALL marriages. But that still shows that its not just men who can relate to Clinton, its women too.

bossydacow

04/27/03, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by PeeDster
dude actualy he has a point. im not slacking off the american ppl cuz i know alot of amazing americans, actually most of the ones i know rule...however, UNFORTUNATELY the image that bush portrays (which isnt all the positive internationally) gets picked up by the ppl of different countries, and then they stereotype that all americans must be the same. its sad i know. but it does exist.

Well, actually I'm a girl. And, I am right. I said this before but America is an isolated country geographically, and culturally. We don't know how to behave respectfully of other cultures like other countries do.

therealhebm

04/27/03, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
Cosmo, actually. And I'm not a democrat.
Also:

"According to Peggy Vaughan, author of "The Monogamy Myth," first published in 1989 by Newmarket Press, re-issued in 1998 by the same publisher.
"Conservative estimates are that 60 percent of men and 40 percent of women will have an extramarital affair. These figures are even more significant when we consider the total number of marriages involved, since it's unlikely that all the men and women having affairs happen to be married to each other. If even half of the women having affairs (or 20 percent) are married to men not included in the 60 percent having affairs, then at least one partner will have an affair in approximately 80 percent of all marriages. With this many marriages affected, it's unreasonable to think affairs are due only to the failures and shortcomings of individual husbands or wives."

Note that the above assessments of the prevalence of affairs were made about a decade ago; so based on changes in society during the intervening years, the current percentage of the population who have had affairs is probably somewhat HIGHER. For instance, the continuing increase of women in the workplace and the increase of women having affairs on the Internet means that the numbers for women having affairs is probably similar to those for men—about 60%.

So:
I mixed up: its 80% of ALL marriages. But that still shows that its not just men who can relate to Clinton, its women too.

that number is still wayy too high. think about it, 8 out of 10 married couples you know have cheated on one another according to that, thats just to fuckin high a number for me to believe.

Safetyin#

04/27/03, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
Cosmo, actually. And I'm not a democrat.
Also:

"According to Peggy Vaughan, author of "The Monogamy Myth," first published in 1989 by Newmarket Press, re-issued in 1998 by the same publisher.
"Conservative estimates are that 60 percent of men and 40 percent of women will have an extramarital affair. These figures are even more significant when we consider the total number of marriages involved, since it's unlikely that all the men and women having affairs happen to be married to each other. If even half of the women having affairs (or 20 percent) are married to men not included in the 60 percent having affairs, then at least one partner will have an affair in approximately 80 percent of all marriages. With this many marriages affected, it's unreasonable to think affairs are due only to the failures and shortcomings of individual husbands or wives."

Note that the above assessments of the prevalence of affairs were made about a decade ago; so based on changes in society during the intervening years, the current percentage of the population who have had affairs is probably somewhat HIGHER. For instance, the continuing increase of women in the workplace and the increase of women having affairs on the Internet means that the numbers for women having affairs is probably similar to those for men—about 60%.

So:
I mixed up: its 80% of ALL marriages. But that still shows that its not just men who can relate to Clinton, its women too.

I didn't mean to call you a democrat, that was very rude of me :) .

But i still don't agree with your figures, i still believe its somewhere smaller, but maybe not as low as the 21% i found.

Safetyin#

04/27/03, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
Well, actually I'm a girl. And, I am right. I said this before but America is an isolated country geographically, and culturally. We don't know how to behave respectfully of other cultures like other countries do.

Are you nuts, we have more cultures intermixing in our country then any other place on the earth, and we are one of the few countries, that for the most part, doesn't oppress or look down opon other cultures.

Safetyin#

04/27/03, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by Stompemplay
I dont come on to the political forum that much because i have views that can be changed by persuasion (unlike everyone else here)

but it is true, the image of Americans to EVERYONE else is selfabsorbed pigs. And Bush is only making that image stand out more.

Ya but europe has put off a sense of snobbywealthyelitism and ingnoranceforthecomanman. And there government are only strengthing that image too.

bossydacow

04/27/03, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by Safetyin#
Are you nuts, we have more cultures intermixing in our country then any other place on the earth, and we are one of the few countries, that for the most part, doesn't oppress or look down opon other cultures.

I'm talking about American Culture. The type of culture that comes from the country one lives in. For example, Americans are much more comfortable with viewing a violent movie, than a movie with sex in it. While in Europe, its the other way around. Thats just one difference. European countries are right next to each other. There arn't any oceans separating them from each other the way America is seperated. Some can go a few miles, and they find themselves in an entire different country, with entirely different way of life. Some Americans can go a few miles and they find themselves in the ocean, or in a different state. But same country, same culture. Because of the geographical situation Europeans are in, they understand and are more sensitive to the cultural differences between countries. We, on the other hand, do not, and the fact that we elected a President who will ignore the pleas of the rest of the world, and hardly visits any other countries, only further implies that we do not care to make an effort to enrich are knowledge and respect of the cultural differences between countries.
Another example of the common American ignorance: My history teacher told me that when he visited Italy once, he was standing in line, behind a fellow American, at a currency exchange. The American in front of him, when handed a few bills, asked the Italian working there if the bills were, "real money(american dollars), or Italian money." If you don't understand the ignorance of that question, especially coming from an adult, then your dumb.

PS. Everyone should read the novelette Daisy Miller. It somes up the culture lapse between America and Europe quite nicely, not excusing either continent.

Safetyin#

04/27/03, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
. We, on the other hand, do not, and the fact that we elected a President who will ignore the pleas of the rest of the world, and hardly visits any other countries, only further implies that we do not care to make an effort to enrich are knowledge and respect of the cultural differences between countries.
Another example of the common American ignorance: My history teacher told me that when he visited Italy once, he was standing in line, behind a fellow American, at a currency exchange. The American in front of him, when handed a few bills, asked the Italian working there if the bills were, "real money(american dollars), or Italian money." If you don't understand the ignorance of that question, especially coming from an adult, then your dumb.

Presidents job is to LISTEN to the american public not western europe.

And after what these countries said about him why would he want to visit them? Or why would they even want a visit from him?

Your story is good, but i can also say that most Europeans are just as ignorant, remimber the picture they painted of Bush being a "cowboy" just cause he was from texas, because we all know the cowboy life style is still around.

Also you cant base an opinion of the american public based on one story you didn't even see first hand, Cause if that was the case i could base my opinion of europeans on the protesters i saw on tv, and these peoples ignorance and stupidity gave all europeans a bad name.

bossydacow

04/27/03, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by Safetyin#
Presidents job is to LISTEN to the american public not western europe.

And after what these countries said about him why would he want to visit them? Or why would they even want a visit from him?

If he keeps talking about world peace, and bringing safety to the world, than he needs to get his ass on a plane and make some friends.

bossydacow

04/27/03, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by cal1082
You are taking one action that Bush does, and saying we dont care to enrich our knowledge of other countries cultures based on that one action.

actually, I gave two actions. Two big ones. And Bush has spoken about how theworld is being threatened by outlaw regimes.

Safetyin#

04/27/03, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by bossydacow
If he keeps talking about world peace, and bringing safety to the world, than he needs to get his ass on a plane and make some friends.

No he really doesn't, His first priority is our safety, if the rest of the bennifets from our actions all the better, and the world, outside of France and Russia, bennifited from our actions in iraq, so we are making the world a better place.

Alex Djaferis

04/28/03, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by Safetyin#
Ya but europe has put off a sense of snobbywealthyelitism and ingnoranceforthecomanman. And there government are only strengthing that image too.

hahahaha what? thats such bullshit (France aside)

Safetyin#

04/28/03, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by PeeDster
hahahaha what? thats such bullshit (France aside)

you are so mislead my friend. its all true and im pretty sure you know it.

Alex Djaferis

04/28/03, 05:12 AM

so tell me how countries like Italy, Spain, portugal, Switzerland(i live here so ask me anythingu want about swiss ppl), Germany etc like showing off and how they dont know whats good for the common people?

bossydacow

04/28/03, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by Safetyin#
His first priority is our safety,

You are right, and I don't think we are any safer now that Saddam's regime has fallen. If we were, all the summer abroad trips that my school plans would be still on now that the main fighting is over. but they are still canceled.

Safetyin#

04/28/03, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
You are right, and I don't think we are any safer now that Saddam's regime has fallen. If we were, all the summer abroad trips that my school plans would be still on now that the main fighting is over. but they are still canceled.

You guys had school trips to Iraq?

I can see where your coming from, but 80% of the public believes we are safer, and that puts you into a very small minority.

Being "safer" doesn't mean we are totally safe, it just means that our level of safety is higher now that hes gone, but that doesn't mean were totally safe yet.

bossydacow

04/28/03, 06:13 AM

no. If the war was still going on the trips would still be canceled. if the war never started, the trips would be on.

BrandNewRock05

04/28/03, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
no. If the war was still going on the trips would still be canceled. if the war never started, the trips would be on.
ok, so they could mustard gas you to death. sounds fun

bossydacow

04/28/03, 06:27 AM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
ok, so they could mustard gas you to death. sounds fun

what?

BrandNewRock05

04/28/03, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
what?
if the us had not gone in there, they could have used chemical weapons on you, not a terrible loss, but i would feel bad for the other kids who went to your school

Safetyin#

04/28/03, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by PeeDster
so tell me how countries like Italy, Spain, portugal, Switzerland(i live here so ask me anythingu want about swiss ppl), Germany etc like showing off and how they dont know whats good for the common people?

heres a good one.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...d=540&ncid=1473

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0425/p01s04-woiq.html

bossydacow

04/28/03, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
if the us had not gone in there, they could have used chemical weapons on you, not a terrible loss, but i would feel bad for the other kids who went to your school

Chemical weapons where? The kids were going to Spain.

BrandNewRock05

04/28/03, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
Chemical weapons where? The kids were going to Spain.
who said iraq? someone said a trip to iraq

Safetyin#

04/28/03, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
Chemical weapons where? The kids were going to Spain.

Europe is a hot bed for fanatic muslims, and a group of american school children would be a great target, much like how the Palestinian terroritst go after Israeli school children. Killing children gets your point across fast.

BrandNewRock05

04/28/03, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by Safetyin#
Europe is a hot bed for fanatic muslims, and a group of american school children would be a great target, much like how the Palestinian terroritst go after Israeli school children. Killing children gets your point across fast.
that too

bossydacow

04/28/03, 06:36 AM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
who said iraq? someone said a trip to iraq

why would a school bring kids to Iraq?

My school wasn't concerned with terrorists. They took a bunch of kids to France last summer, and to Gautemala as well. Granted, they got mugged at gun point in Gautemala...but, my school canceled the trip due to anti-american sentitment as a result of the war.

Safetyin#

04/28/03, 06:38 AM

BrandNewRock05

04/28/03, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by Safetyin#
You guys had school trips to Iraq?

This is where i got Iraq from. My bad

yeat182

04/28/03, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
why would a school bring kids to Iraq?

My school wasn't concerned with terrorists. They took a bunch of kids to France last summer, and to Gautemala as well. Granted, they got mugged at gun point in Gautemala...but, my school canceled the trip due to anti-american sentitment as a result of the war.

the war made america safer, just becuase people in europe don't like it, doesn't mean they should be hostile to american students that visit their country. we did what we felt was right to make our country, and by extenstion, the world safer, it is the violent protesters that have made it dangerous to travel abroad.