Essential 2009 "party songs" ?

[ACA]

What are the songs released 2008-2009 played at every club, basement party, etc, this year?

Whenever I'm out I have no idea who performs ANY of the songs I hear, as I listen to 0 minutes of radio and watch 0 minutes of celebrity TV per year. So if anyone could contribute some of the most known songs of 2009 (I'm expecting a ton of auto-tune) that a party would like to dance to, please name some...

[boxingwithstars]

that fucking Black Eyed Peas song, "I Got A Feeling." my god, i hate that song.

also, lots of Lady Gaga.

[Mibabalou]

miley cyrus

i hate it but the bitches love it

[Nettn07]

David Guetta feat Akon I guess.. "sexy bitch" or whatever the song is called.

[eatsound]

David Guetta feat Akon I guess.. "sexy bitch" or whatever the song is called.

Came in here to say this.... that song is so catchy.

[Nettn07]

Came in here to say this.... that song is so catchy.
it's catchy yet so annoying. haha.

[MADSTA]

SOMEBODY CALL 9-1-1!
Badadadadadadadada DANCE FLOOR, WHOAAAA.

[Wildness774]

Can't Stop Partying- Weezer

[Broclee]

Don't Trust Me.

[kbi the crowing]

Don't Trust Me.

this
& "Birthday Sex"

[gr33ndayfr3ak]

SOMEBODY CALL 9-1-1!
Badadadadadadadada DANCE FLOOR, WHOAAAA.

Hahaha that song is so much fun.

Pretty much anything from Lady GaGa or the Black Eyed Peas. And that one song that samples Imogen Heap.

[sleepyseanzzz]

Can't Stop Partying- Weezer

you beat me to it kenny powers!

[imahoodlum]

I don't know how many times at a party I say "....I have never heard this song before."

[SSLYBY]

I'm on a boat.

[tD77]

LMFAO - Shots & I'm In Miami Bitch

[Montauk1222]

Pitbull - Hotel Room Service
Pitbull - I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho)

[cacophonous]

Shots Shots Sh-sh-sh-sho Shots!

[popdisaster00]

party in the usa

[briewer]

Sorry, I only go to parties where the hippest music ever is being played.

[S9Dallasoz]

LMFAO - Shots & I'm In Miami Bitch

& "Yes"
"Good Girls Go bad"

& I had to drink a lot more on saturday night when girls started singing along to "Alcohol" by Millionaires.

[pr0digy]

that fucking Black Eyed Peas song, "I Got A Feeling." my god, i hate that song.


I want to break things whenever I hear this song. I don't know how anyone likes it...

[boxingwithstars]

& "Yes"
"Good Girls Go bad"

& I had to drink a lot more on saturday night when girls started singing along to "Alcohol" by Millionaires.

:shudder:

if i was ever in a club and this song came on, i would personally walk up to the DJ booth and punch him in the face.

[bladerdude360]

LMFAO - Shots & I'm In Miami Bitch
I can't stand that song, but yes, they play it all the time.

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

add to this list:

weezy and jaysean ....can't remember the song name but yeah. you can find it by typing in jay sean feat. lil wayne. 'whatcha say' by some guy i can't think of his name. britney spears "3 way" or threesome. kid cudi couple of songs. some new jay-z tracks. use somebody from kings of leon. drake - best i ever had. some michael jackson. phoenix - 1901 and listomania.

if you get everything already said in the thread plus this stuff then you're all set.

[crimsonandclovr]

I Love College?

[SteveLikesMusic]

American Steel - Emergency House Party
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll
Passion Pit - The Reeling
Phoenix - 1901

[And Hours Pass]

add to this list:

weezy and jaysean ....can't remember the song name but yeah. you can find it by typing in jay sean feat. lil wayne. 'whatcha say' by some guy i can't think of his name. britney spears "3 way" or threesome. kid cudi couple of songs. some new jay-z tracks. use somebody from kings of leon. drake - best i ever had. some michael jackson. phoenix - 1901 and listomania.

if you get everything already said in the thread plus this stuff then you're all set.
I came in here to say "Down" by Jay Sean & Lil' Wayne.

Insanely catchy.

[boomerangslang]

Young Money - Every Girl
Kid Cudi - Make Her Say

[ACA]

Thanks for all the suggestions so far.

I expect there must be about 60 or so, so please keep naming songs.

Please include song title and artist.. "Miley Cyrus" doesn't help.

Thanks a lot.

[Joe DeAndrea]

DOWOWOWOWN DOWOWOWOWN

Dammit that song is catchy.

Anyway, Drake - "Forever"

[Pat k]

I've been partying to My Girls since January.

[zachff]

Lady Gaga is the 2009 party song queen

[zachff]

^ Poker Face, Just Dance, Paparazzi

[Neo Cassady]

What I just jacked from my sister's iPod for parties and road trips (sorry if they're mostly repeats, or if they didn't come out this year, I'm just hitting next, typing, and repeating):

Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow
Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling
Boys Like Girls - Love Drunk
Jay-Z feat. Rihanna and Kanye West - Run This Town
Jesse McCartney - How Do You Sleep
Katy Perry - Waking Up in Vegas
Kelly Clarkson - My Life Would Suck Without You
Lady GaGa - LoveGame
The Lonely Island - I'm on a Boat
Miley Cyrus - Party in the USA
Sean Kingston - Fire Burning
Owl City - Fireflies
Flo Rida - Right Round
Jason DeRulo - Whatcha Say
Gloriana - Wild at Heart

[zachff]

Sorry, I only go to parties where the hippest music ever is being played.
Is it a lot of fun partying alone in IT?

[boiledfrogs]

mstrkrft - bounce

[ikikwe]

I heard "Daylight" by Matt and Kim at a few parties over the summer.

[Genuma]

I Gotta Feeling
anything Lady Gaga
Jay-Z - Run This Town

[eatsound]

Bassment Party - The Cool Kids.. I've never heard it at a party, but its mad catchy and The Cool Kids are awesome.

[oddwithoutend]

jj - Ecstasy
Animal Collective - Brothersport
Fuck Buttons - Surf Solar
Girls - Lust for Life
The Thermals - Now We Can See
Passion Pit - Make Light
Grizzly Bear - Two Weeks

You see, I have cool parties.

[IWasaCamera]

So glad I was nowhere near these parties.

[wendjiqn]

I don't know how many times at a party I say "....I have never heard this song before."
fucking yes to your avatar

[oddwithoutend]

So glad I was nowhere near these parties.

But you haven't heard my rendition of Two Weeks yet?

[IWasaCamera]

But you haven't heard my rendition of Two Weeks yet?
By all means Rick, belt away.

[KoolAidMatt]

Faber Drive - G-Get Up and Dance
Marianas Trench - Cross My Heart
The Mission District - So Over You

some additional really catchy overplayed songs that I hear on the radio.

[Pat k]

jj - Ecstasy
Animal Collective - Brothersport
Fuck Buttons - Surf Solar
Girls - Lust for Life
The Thermals - Now We Can See
Passion Pit - Make Light
Grizzly Bear - Two Weeks

You see, I have cool parties.

I dunno man, where's all the Pitchfork-approved rap?

[briewer]

Is it a lot of fun partying alone in IT?
IT?

[zachff]

IT?
I'm assuming from your age and location you are a student at University of Illinois. If you don't know what IT are (Illini Towers) then you really must not get out

[briewer]

I'm assuming from your age and location you are a student at University of Illinois. If you don't know what IT are (Illini Towers) then you really must not get out
I do go here and do know what Illini Towers are, I just didn't know that you were referring to them. But yeah, I don't get out a lot, I'm too busy partying alone in my shithole apartment.

[Chromefox]

I do go here and do know what Illini Towers are, I just didn't know that you were referring to them. But yeah, I don't get out a lot, I'm too busy partying alone in my shithole apartment. Menage a une.

[mmmmmpoetry]

I'm glad I don't party. Bud Light and radio rap? No thanks.

[briewer]

Menage a une.
Hahaha, oui.

[pleasedontpanic]

I heard "Daylight" by Matt and Kim at a few parties over the summer.
That's a sweet party then.

3OH!3 - Don't Trust Me

[TheFractlEffect]

Starstrukk - 3oh!3

[HometownHero]

Drake. For the whole party. Just Drake

[lolliot]

Don't know over there in the states, but La Roux has been huge here this summer, along with much of the stuff that has already been mentioned. Songs that have been frequenting are Bulletproof, In It For The Kill and Tigerlily.

It's actually one of hte few "party-artists" of this summer I can actually stand. In fact I hate "party-music". My birthday, it's the one day of the year all my friends will let me control the music without having to hear them all sit and whine about it's too weird, odd, slow, fast, hard or whatever, which is why I always celebrate my birthday!

[briewer]

Don't know over there in the states, but La Roux has been huge here this summer, along with much of the stuff that has already been mentioned. Songs that have been frequenting are Bulletproof, In It For The Kill and Tigerlily.

It's actually one of hte few "party-artists" of this summer I can actually stand. In fact I hate "party-music". My birthday, it's the one day of the year all my friends will let me control the music without having to hear them all sit and whine about it's too weird, odd, slow, fast, hard or whatever, which is why I always celebrate my birthday!
:shrug: It's been big with me.

[x togepi x]

jj - Ecstasy
Animal Collective - Brothersport
Fuck Buttons - Surf Solar
Girls - Lust for Life
The Thermals - Now We Can See
Passion Pit - Make Light
Grizzly Bear - Two Weeks

You see, I have cool parties.

that would be the most boring party i've ever been to.

[guitarpickheart]

I haven't even heard all of the titles in this thread. Guess that makes me a popular culture outcast.

[lolliot]

:shrug: It's been big with me.

Like I said, I can stand it ;) It's fun and catchy as hell (ie. I like it), but I made an effort not to listen to it too often so that I wouldn't "wear it out". It was everywhere this summer!

[Broclee]

The parties I go to usually have Blood, Sweat, and Tears and Maynard Furgeson playing.


I'm not completely sure what this says about me.

[Pat k]

The parties I go to usually have Blood, Sweat, and Tears and Maynard Furgeson playing.


I'm not completely sure what this says about me.

That you're 50? That you hang out with 50 year olds?

[alexa_ATL]

Hahaha that song is so much fun.

Pretty much anything from Lady GaGa or the Black Eyed Peas. And that one song that samples Imogen Heap.

yeah wtf is up with THAT?! i love the original song and this just pisses me off! my naive and stupid brother loves that song, yet hates when i play Hide and Seek by Imogen heap! damn the youth today!

i've needed to unload that for quite some time. haha

[Cameronisonfire]

Bassment Party - The Cool Kids.. I've never heard it at a party, but its mad catchy and The Cool Kids are awesome.

Hell yes. I love the Cool Kids.

[gr33ndayfr3ak]

yeah wtf is up with THAT?! i love the original song and this just pisses me off! my naive and stupid brother loves that song, yet hates when i play Hide and Seek by Imogen heap! damn the youth today!

i've needed to unload that for quite some time. haha

Haha well I'm glad you finally got that out there.
To be honest, I didn't actually know it was part of that song until I looked it up. I do like the Imogen Heap song better though.

[eatsound]

Hell yes. I love the Cool Kids.

:highfive:

[Neo Cassady]

LOL @ elitists in a "party songs" thread.

[tyramail]

ester dean - drop it low
paradiso girls - patron tequila
kesha - tik tok

[mar_]

SOMEBODY CALL 9-1-1!
Badadadadadadadada DANCE FLOOR, WHOAAAA.
Sean Kingston - Fire Burning, and it's sadly catchy


American Steel - Emergency House Party
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll
Passion Pit - The Reeling
Phoenix - 1901
That one seems to get people excited. It makes me think of the theme song from All That.

Faber Drive - G-Get Up and Dance
Marianas Trench - Cross My Heart
The Mission District - So Over You

some additional really catchy overplayed songs that I hear on the radio.
They aren't overplayed here. Though that Faber Drive song doesn't really sound like them, but it instantly ingrained itself in my head the first time I heard it.

Also:
Iyaz - Replay

There were others I was going to say, but I feel like most of them have been said. E-603 seems to be popular with some people I know, but most people prefer Girl Talk I think.

[MADSTA]

I say instead you just go with the classics:
Nelly - Hot In Herre
Nelly, P. Diddy, Murphy Lee - Shake Ya Tailfeather
Fat Man Scoop - Put Your Hands Up
Ice Cube - You Can Do It (Put Your Back In To It)
Yin Yang Twins - Shake
And the big mama...
Lil Jon and The Eastside Boys - Get Low

[MilesToGo]

I say instead you just go with the classics:
Nelly - Hot In Herre
Nelly, P. Diddy, Murphy Lee - Shake Ya Tailfeather
Fat Man Scoop - Put Your Hands Up
Ice Cube - You Can Do It (Put Your Back In To It)
Yin Yang Twins - Shake
And the big mama...
Lil Jon and The Eastside Boys - Get Low

Yes.



Also, this weekend, I was at a party and someone was playing shit tons of rap, then this one kid snuck over to the lap top and put on Hey Jude, and at first everyone was like... wtf? But 30 seconds in, everyone had their arms around each other singing along. It was pretty great.

[$eth]

Cobra Starship- Good Girls Go Bad

[trappedintime]

I don't know how many times at a party I say "....I have never heard this song before."

:appl: same here.

[aoftbsten]

I Love College - Aster Roth

[B-Bones]

Bounce by MSTRKRFT is my #1 party song of the year.

[Broclee]

That you're 50? That you hang out with 50 year olds?

I think it's that all my friends (and myself) are music majors. Meh.

[WhiteLies.]

A party is not a party without Andrew WK.

[oddwithoutend]

that would be the most boring party i've ever been to.

What are you trying to say?

[x togepi x]

What are you trying to say?

that parties aren't necessarily for good music. they're for getting drunk to terrible accessible music that's just fun.

[oddwithoutend]

that parties aren't necessarily for good music. they're for getting drunk to terrible accessible music that's just fun.

I guess I'm strange in that I never want to listen to terrible music haha. I only really like the music you're suggesting if I'm going to a club or something. You're not alone in thinking the music I like partying to sucks, though.

[werealldudes19]

I love when Lady Gaga is played at parties, it allows me let my hair down

[kearn1tm]

that parties aren't necessarily for good music. they're for getting drunk to terrible accessible music that's just fun.

Yes, and here's a little anecdote no one asked for to illustrate the point:

So I started working at this kinda cool, hipster crawl coffee shop just off campus in the spring. Cute boys frequent the place, I get to wear what I want, I get free food/coffee and can play whatever the hell I desire during my shifts.

The staff is comprised of me and seven other hipster kids (or whatever retarded modifier we're using to describe the v-neck, Pitchfork, "I don't dance, I stand" cliche crowd [and yes, I know, hypocracy all-around as you look at my pics and my wardrobe and my record collection and blabidy blooo, but I'm not faulting my co-workers, as they genuinely dress and listen to what they like, and they're relatively cool) or whatever. I befriend them quickly, as their faux-liberal hearts can't help but to embrace their new, token gay who looks as contrived as they do (I do).

So, now that excessively long bit of exposition out of the way, they invite me to a Halloween party last weekend. I oblige. I'm not much for parties (I like quiet, small gatherings in which we listen to music, play videogames, eat food and act like socially-retarded children) but I decide to be friendly. I arrive, the only one in an "actual" costume (one of them was dressed as "apathy," which involved wearing her normal garb, but having a lethargic look on her face the entire night. Another of my co-workers was an "out-of-work automotive worker," which meant he dressed like Eddie Vedder circa-1993...only with skinny jeans). Fine, whatever. So they bust out the tunes on this very elaborate soundsystem...the playlist featured hype bands like Dirty Projectors and Japandroids and some Bedhead. I don't know why anyone thought it would make for a fun dancing atmosphere to have a relic of '90s Slowcore playing on your soundsystem, but clearly, they did.

So I start dancing (like an autistic kid hopped up on ecstasy and a redbull/koolaid smoothie) because, despite my inability to do it well, it's fun. I try my hardest to find some way to dance to the utterly boring playlist that was presented, and they all not only are content with standing and staring into their drink, but stare at me like I'm somehow breaching the social etiquette of a party by...dancing? "Dude, why are you dancing? Here, have a bottle of water."

In conclusion, Lady Gaga and the chick who sang about shit being bananas are fun to dance to at parties. Bedhead ruins everything.

[kearn1tm]

I guess I'm strange in that I never want to listen to terrible music haha. I only really like the music you're suggesting if I'm going to a club or something. You're not alone in thinking the music I like partying to sucks, though.

Dear rad Kelly Clarkson song,

King Shit of shittown says he has no place for you in his life. I hope you'll be able to continue being a rad song knowing this.

Sincerely,
King Shit of Shittown

PS - If you get defensive about this, I am going to pay a hobo money to try to make out with you...while singing Since U Been Gone.

[donwagenblast]

Brokencyde- Freaxxx

[oddwithoutend]

Bad music is hideously vexing regardless of my level of intoxication. Just like dumb, shallow people are always unattractive in that sense. Difference is, I can't have sex with bad music.

[kearn1tm]

Bad music is hideously vexing regardless of my level of intoxication. Just like dumb, shallow people are always unattractive in that sense. Difference is, I can't have sex with bad music.

No Doubt chick, Since U Been Gone, Kylie Minogue > Fuck Buttons, Animal Collective, Girls, Passion Pit, etc.

Also, I'm straight-edge, but even I've had sex with music, so if you're really trashed, you should be able to find a way to get your scrumping on with sounds, man.

[tD77]

Just about any Super Mash Bros. song.

You can get both albums for free here. (http://www.lazerwolf.com)

[oddwithoutend]

No Doubt chick, Since U Been Gone, Kylie Minogue > Fuck Buttons, Animal Collective, Girls, Passion Pit, etc.

Also, I'm straight-edge, but even I've had sex with music, so if you're really trashed, you should be able to find a way to get your scrumping on with sounds, man.

haha I'd bang jj's music before Kelly Clarkson's any day of the week. I think I want to marry jj's music.

[donwagenblast]

In all seriousness, my party mix would consist of:

Good Girls Go Bad
Party in Your Bedroom
Poker Face
Down
Party in the USA
Love Drunk
Say Hey (I Love You)
I Gotta Feeling
Sexy Bitch (not a fan of this one at all)
Fire Burning

[honkyg88]

Brokencyde- Freaxxx
lolz

[x togepi x]

Yes, and here's a little anecdote no one asked for to illustrate the point:

So I started working at this kinda cool, hipster crawl coffee shop just off campus in the spring. Cute boys frequent the place, I get to wear what I want, I get free food/coffee and can play whatever the hell I desire during my shifts.

The staff is comprised of me and seven other hipster kids (or whatever retarded modifier we're using to describe the v-neck, Pitchfork, "I don't dance, I stand" cliche crowd [and yes, I know, hypocracy all-around as you look at my pics and my wardrobe and my record collection and blabidy blooo, but I'm not faulting my co-workers, as they genuinely dress and listen to what they like, and they're relatively cool) or whatever. I befriend them quickly, as their faux-liberal hearts can't help but to embrace their new, token gay who looks as contrived as they do (I do).

So, now that excessively long bit of exposition out of the way, they invite me to a Halloween party last weekend. I oblige. I'm not much for parties (I like quiet, small gatherings in which we listen to music, play videogames, eat food and act like socially-retarded children) but I decide to be friendly. I arrive, the only one in an "actual" costume (one of them was dressed as "apathy," which involved wearing her normal garb, but having a lethargic look on her face the entire night. Another of my co-workers was an "out-of-work automotive worker," which meant he dressed like Eddie Vedder circa-1993...only with skinny jeans). Fine, whatever. So they bust out the tunes on this very elaborate soundsystem...the playlist featured hype bands like Dirty Projectors and Japandroids and some Bedhead. I don't know why anyone thought it would make for a fun dancing atmosphere to have a relic of '90s Slowcore playing on your soundsystem, but clearly, they did.

So I start dancing (like an autistic kid hopped up on ecstasy and a redbull/koolaid smoothie) because, despite my inability to do it well, it's fun. I try my hardest to find some way to dance to the utterly boring playlist that was presented, and they all not only are content with standing and staring into their drink, but stare at me like I'm somehow breaching the social etiquette of a party by...dancing? "Dude, why are you dancing? Here, have a bottle of water."

In conclusion, Lady Gaga and the chick who sang about shit being bananas are fun to dance to at parties. Bedhead ruins everything.

that's exactly what i'm talking about. i mean, if you're in a DJ situation and someone can spin something good and make it work, then awesome. I was at a club where the DJ mixed in some Fugazi last weekend, it totally ruled, but standing around listening to approved songs because "top 40 sucks" is annoying and boring at best.

[oddwithoutend]

So since I'm not listening to the top 40, I must be standing around sipping water? That's very closed-minded.

[neo506]

that's exactly what i'm talking about. i mean, if you're in a DJ situation and someone can spin something good and make it work, then awesome. I was at a club where the DJ mixed in some Fugazi last weekend, it totally ruled, but standing around listening to approved songs because "top 40 sucks" is annoying and boring at best.I love DJ's like that. I was at a club once and the DJ mixed in "Idioteque"...it was so cool


Ive been compiling a mix of songs for parties for quite some time now (so far its at 300+) and its mostly radio friendly stuff, which I can tolorate alot more drunk. But thanks for that "Sexy Bitch" song...hadn't heard it yet.

Also, add some spank rock. Ive found "Loose" from the Bangers and Cash EP works quite well

[x togepi x]

I love DJ's like that. I was at a club once and the DJ mixed in "Idioteque"...it was so cool


I saw a guy on new year's eve do a sweet remix of sigur ros

[surfwaxsideshow]

So since I'm not listening to the top 40, I must be standing around sipping water? That's very closed-minded.

You cannot dance to Two Weeks.

In the right company, its fun and fine to put on something not dancey/good instead of "Party in the USA" for a song or two in the middle of a party (even though Miley has easily the best party song of the fall, anyways), but if you're totally refusing to put on shallow, fun music then I just don't see how you can be having a party. In that situation, danceable>>>>>>>>>"good" in a traditional sense. There's really no way around that.

[oddwithoutend]

You cannot dance to Two Weeks.

In the right company, its fun and fine to put on something not dancey/good instead of "Party in the USA" for a song or two in the middle of a party (even though Miley has easily the best party song of the fall, anyways), but if you're totally refusing to put on shallow, fun music then I just don't see how you can be having a party. In that situation, danceable>>>>>>>>>"good" in a traditional sense. There's really no way around that.

You combine fun with shallow like they are one in the same. There are good fun/dancey songs.

Also, "party" is obviously a fairly ambiguous concept. Surprised no one has arrived at that conclusion yet. You really don't see how someone can party without dancing? I find that incredibly disappointing.

[neo506]

I saw a guy on new year's eve do a sweet remix of sigur roshaha thats crazy. Svefn-g-englar?

[Rawrr]

and some Bedhead..
This is baffling, I mean, I love Bedhead and all, but who would ever think they'd be party appropiate?

[x togepi x]

haha thats crazy. Svefn-g-englar?

nope, saeglopur

[yves.]

tardy for the party

[neo506]

tardy for the partyhaha its sad I know that song...my friend loves that show

[yves.]

haha its sad I know that song...my friend loves that show

this girl walked into my french class late and my french prof (who, by the way, is a guy) was like "girl, don't be tardy for the party." i asked him if he got it from real housewives and he said yes haha.

but that song is hilarious, you shouldn't be ashamed.

[neo506]

this girl walked into my french class late and my french prof (who, by the way, is a guy) was like "girl, don't be tardy for the party." i asked him if he got it from real housewives and he said yes haha.

but that song is hilarious, you shouldn't be ashamed.haha thats awesome. My friend who loves it is also male.

Actually Ive never heard it I just knew what its from. I heard the hook somewhere...and I just went to youtube now to look it up

[kearn1tm]

This is baffling, I mean, I love Bedhead and all, but who would ever think they'd be party appropiate?

Anyone who's "too cool" for Hall & Oates (more Maneater for me).

[surfwaxsideshow]

You combine fun with shallow like they are one in the same. There are good fun/dancey songs.

Also, "party" is obviously a fairly ambiguous concept. Surprised no one has arrived at that conclusion yet. You really don't see how someone can party without dancing? I find that incredibly disappointing.

I think this has more to do with you combining bad with shallow like they are one in the same. That stuff may not have a lot of depth, but it certainly has a purpose, one which it fulfills far greater than any indie rock does (although I'll give you Passion Pit and bands of that ilk).

And of course you can party without dancing, but I don't think that's the kind of party the thread was asking for. Definitely two very different vibes; it mostly comes down to the fact that indie stuff generally makes for nice background music at best. Don't get me wrong, I'd take that music over the radio any day - but for most people, myself included to a degree, partying=dancing and that's a lot harder to pull off playing Brothersport than it is Poker Face.

[Broclee]

nope, saeglopur

That's really sweet.

[oddwithoutend]

I think this has more to do with you combining bad with shallow like they are one in the same. That stuff may not have a lot of depth, but it certainly has a purpose, one which it fulfills far greater than any indie rock does (although I'll give you Passion Pit and bands of that ilk).

Yeah, shallow is bad, though. Especially when you can admit their is a more compelling, profound alternative.

And of course you can party without dancing, but I don't think that's the kind of party the thread was asking for.

Fair enough.
Don't get me wrong, I'd take that music over the radio any day - but for most people, myself included to a degree, partying=dancing and that's a lot harder to pull off playing Brothersport than it is Poker Face.

I've already admitted I like shitty songs if I'm at a club or something, but I only attend a club for one reason. In my experience, partying usually does not mean dancing (though after reading the OP I'll admit I'm straying from the thread's purpose).

[TheHeretic]

Songs heard the most:

Flo-rida - Right Round
Lady Gaga - All those damn singles
Black Eyes Peas - I Gotta Feeling
Evacuate the Dancefloor

BUT, my favorite (underground) bar/club also regularly plays Passion Pit, Grizzly Bear, (FBR: Panic!, Paramore, FOB), Animal Collective and Maybeshewill for example, which I think is pretty neat.

[kearn1tm]

Yeah, shallow is bad, though. Especially when you can admit their is a more compelling, profound alternative.

1.) What is "shallow?" What is your operating definition?

2.) Why does music have to be heavy in "substance" to be good?

3.) What is it that makes Animal Collective any less "shallow" than Justin Timberlake?

[x togepi x]

"shallow"= i want an excuse to bash a kind of music i don't like while seeming intelligent and open minded.

[Thesleepingwell]

Empire Of The Sun - Walking On A Dream

Be great for a chill out disc.

[IWasaCamera]

one of them was dressed as "apathy," which involved wearing her normal garb, but having a lethargic look on her face the entire night.
Bedhead.
These people sound dreadful.
Yeah, shallow is bad, though. Especially when you can admit their is a more compelling, profound alternative.
How can you say this while repeatedly championing jj no. 2 in this thread? It's one of my favorite releases of the year as well, but as stated in my review, it's merely because it brims with the type of distinctly Scandinavian fun I have a weakness for. If I was seeking strictly substance from my listening, I certainly wouldn't turn to indie-pop.

[oddwithoutend]

1.) What is "shallow?" What is your operating definition?
Shallow simply means there is no deep meaning, or no subtle, intriguing approach to conveying information. Shallow songs can be completely understood and appreciated in one listen.
2.) Why does music have to be heavy in "substance" to be good?
Only because I value depth to a very high degree.
3.) What is it that makes Animal Collective any less "shallow" than Justin Timberlake?
I find Timberlake to fit my definition of shallow more precisely than Animal Collective does. Animal Collective has quirky vocals, lyrics, ambience, noises, and instrumentation that only makes perfect sense upon repeated listening. There are epiphanies to be had while listening to Animal Collective as we slowly begin to understand why he's singing like that at that part, or why he chooses this word instead of that one, and so on.
"shallow"= i want an excuse to bash a kind of music i don't like while seeming intelligent and open minded.
Is this a universal definition, or just one that applies to simple people like me? I suppose truly intelligent people can honestly see something as shallow.
How can you say this while repeatedly championing jj no. 2 in this thread? It's one of my favorite releases of the year as well, but as stated in my review, it's merely because it brims with the type of distinctly Scandinavian fun I have a weakness for. If I was seeking strictly substance from my listening, I certainly wouldn't turn to indie-pop.
I find it's shallow aspects to be its worst ones. That would include its lyrics at times and overall song structures. Conversely, I find it's profound elements to be its best. The quirky, highly-varied vocals are very enjoyable, its wide range of bizarre sounds are used effectively and timely, the ordering of the songs, and the way the feelings change throughout the record, etc. I find these elements to sink in only after repeated listens, as they are subtle, and required a deeper level of understanding to appreciate.

[x togepi x]

Is this a universal definition, or just one that applies to simple people like me? I suppose truly intelligent people can honestly see something as shallow.


I won't apply it to you if you come up with a definition of shallow music that isn't vague.

[IWasaCamera]

I find it's shallow aspects to be its worst ones. That would include its lyrics at times and overall song structures. Conversely, I find it's profound elements to be its best.
This division between shallow and profound traits is pretty dicey territory as one could easily claim radio pop is brushed with the very ones you're assigning to jj.
The quirky, highly-varied vocals are very enjoyable
Timberlake goes from falsetto to vocoder-soaked vocals.
its wide range of bizarre sounds are used effectively and timely
I suppose this is fair, although deeply entrenched in individual perception.
the ordering of the songs
How so in this case?
the way the feelings change throughout the record, etc.
JT again. If anything, this is even more prevalent in mainstream music as the desire for hit singles takes precedence over "the album", thereby rendering releases quite diverse in mood, be it inadvertently or not.
I find these elements to sink in only after repeated listens, as they are subtle, and required a deeper level of understanding to appreciate.
I've not found anything particularly subtle about jj no.2. It's endearing to be sure, adorable too, but the elements in play are fairly commonplace and audible from the very outset. How well the vision is executed what determined its success. Then again, I can't really refute how you processed the record so if you deem it subtle, that's that. However, by that same token, any release with a smudge of sonic vinaigrette can be labeled as subtle.

[kearn1tm]

These people sound dreadful.
.

They can be vapid assholes, for sure.

Shallow simply means there is no deep meaning, or no subtle, intriguing approach to conveying information. Shallow songs can be completely understood and appreciated in one listen.

So Animal Collective and Passion Pit are shallow then. I see.

Also, let's acknowledge the fact that "shallow" is an incredibly relative thing.

Only because I value depth to a very high degree.
That's fine. You value your own constructed idea of "depth." However, by my standards, none of what you listed has much of that "depth." I can understand an AC song, the "subtext" and the craft in one listen myself.

I find Timberlake to fit my definition of shallow more precisely than Animal Collective does. Animal Collective has quirky vocals,
How does "quirky" lyrics lend something "depth?"

lyrics,

Is it much to admit I need
A solid soul and the blood I bleed
With a little girl, and by my spouse
I only want a proper house

To each their own, I suppose.

ambience, noises
So you find their sampling/production to have more depth than Timberland, Danja, Rick Rubin and Timberlake's? Why?

instrumentation
Why? I can understand preferring one over the other, but I don't see this "depth" you allude to.

that only makes perfect sense upon repeated listening.
How? I love Futuresex/Love Sounds. I own it and have listened to it many a time. I own a lot of Animal Collective's discography. I've given their work a fair amount of play. I prefer Timberlake. However, I would hesitate to claim AC is somehow more "substantial" or has more depth than Futuresex/Love Sounds, especially as it pertains to your criteria.

There are epiphanies to be had while listening to Animal Collective as we slowly begin to understand why he's singing like that at that part, or why he chooses this word instead of that one, and so on.
What "epiphanies?" He sings that way because of a deliberate, stylized choice.

Is this a universal definition, or just one that applies to simple people like me? I suppose truly intelligent people can honestly see something as shallow.
Don't be obtuse. No one is arguing that there isn't such a thing as "shallow" art. The question is, how you can claim one thing is shallow and one thing isn't.


I find it's shallow aspects to be its worst ones. That would include its lyrics at times and overall song structures. Conversely, I find it's profound elements to be its best. The quirky, highly-varied vocals are very enjoyable, its wide range of bizarre sounds are used effectively and timely, the ordering of the songs, and the way the feelings change throughout the record, etc. I find these elements to sink in only after repeated listens, as they are subtle, and required a deeper level of understanding to appreciate.
Animal Collective uses "bizarre" sounds? Really?

[oddwithoutend]

This division between shallow and profound traits is pretty dicey territory as one could easily claim radio pop is brushed with the very ones you're assigning to jj.
Timberlake goes from falsetto to vocoder-soaked vocals.
I suppose this is fair, although deeply entrenched in individual perception.
How so in this case?
JT again. If anything, this is even more prevalent in mainstream music as the desire for hit singles takes precedence over "the album", thereby rendering releases quite diverse in mood, be it inadvertently or not.
I've not found anything particularly subtle about jj no.2. It's endearing to be sure, adorable too, but the elements in play are fairly commonplace and audible from the very outset. How well the vision is executed what determined its success. Then again, I can't really refute how you processed the record so if you deem it subtle, that's that. However, by that same token, any release with a smudge of sonic vinaigrette can be labeled as subtle.

Well, I don't know anything about Justin Timberlake, so I can't really argue here. I agree with the bolded, and the album's shallow nature is what keeps other releases ahead of it on my list. There are fairly shallow albums (jj no2, if you want) that manage to be good due to other traits (such as the bolded), but the fact that those albums are shallow is a bad quality. In other words, if jjno2 executed its vision to this degree while being deeper, it would be a better record.

Edit: To answer the one question you asked, I find it quite profound that they started the album with 'Things Will Never Be The Same Again'. Such an incredible decision to start the album with a song about the realisation of having a clean slate, a new approach to life it seems. Just one example, but I feel these nine songs fit together exceptionally well.

[nonamesleft]

Haha, so many terrible songs in here.

[oddwithoutend]

Animal Collective uses "bizarre" sounds? Really?
No, that paragraph was referring to jj.

The fact is, I really have no knowledge of the artists you're comparing to Animal Collective, but I can say: I have incredible amounts of respect for AC vocals. They are very diverse and change exceptionally depending on the mood being conveyed. I don't like their lyrics very much, but they have a knack for using pretty eccentric imagery. They structure their songs in really creative ways that synchronize with the meaning their conveying really well.

But really, it doesn't matter what I find to be so deep about Animal Collective. The point is that I do hear it in their music, and that I value it a lot. Maybe what I'm calling depth, you find to be in Timberlake's music. I'm not trying to be an elitist, and maybe I just have a very liberal definition of "depth".

[IWasaCamera]

Well, I don't know anything about Justin Timberlake, so I can't really argue here. I agree with the bolded, and the album's shallow nature is what keeps other releases ahead of it on my list. There are fairly shallow albums (jj no2, if you want) that manage to be good due to other traits (such as the bolded), but the fact that those albums are shallow is a bad quality. In other words, if jjno2 executed its vision to this degree while being deeper, it would be a better record.

Edit: To answer the one question you asked, I find it quite profound that they started the album with 'Things Will Never Be The Same Again'. Such an incredible decision to start the album with a song about the realisation of having a clean slate, a new approach to life it seems. Just one example, but I feel these nine songs fit together exceptionally well.
I'd say its shallow nature represents an integral component of its vision. I didn't read through this whole post though, so I'm quoting to reply when I get back from my midterm.

[x togepi x]

haha my point just got proved.

[Cliff Diver]

Phoenix - 1901

[oddwithoutend]

I'd say its shallow nature represents an integral component of its vision.

I agree to an extent, though I would contend that a lot of its shallow aspects (such as the two I mentioned - lyrics and song structures) would be improved with a more creative approach . Even then, a shallow vision executed really well is not as good as a profound one executed very well.

[its swanny]

Pretty simple...

http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100#/charts/hot-100

[mrwassef]

So was the Macarena, haha.

[behappy123]

Phoenix - 1901

Hahah, I love that song. Pure french pop lol

[IWasaCamera]

the album's shallow nature is what keeps other releases ahead of it on my list. There are fairly shallow albums (jj no2, if you want) that manage to be good due to other traits (such as the bolded), but the fact that those albums are shallow is a bad quality. In other words, if jjno2 executed its vision to this degree while being deeper, it would be a better record.
Interesting. I'd argue that a "deeper" approach would hinder the positives jj has in place in just about every way.
Edit: To answer the one question you asked, I find it quite profound that they started the album with 'Things Will Never Be The Same Again'. Such an incredible decision to start the album with a song about the realisation of having a clean slate, a new approach to life it seems. Just one example, but I feel these nine songs fit together exceptionally well. Again, that's perfectly fair but subject to the manner in which any given listener interprets certain traits -- in this case, flow I suppose. That's what this all boils down to really. Shallowness, profundity, its presence/absence will vary from one individual to the next and so passing judgments on the strength of such qualities is a tough sell.

[oddwithoutend]

Interesting. I'd argue that a "deeper" approach would hinder the positives jj has in place in just about every way.

haha I'm really going to have to think this one over.

Again, that's perfectly fair but subject to the manner in which any given listener interprets certain traits -- in this case, flow I suppose. That's what this all boils down to really. Shallowness, profundity, its presence/absence will vary from one individual to the next and so passing judgments on the strength of such qualities is a tough sell.

Yeah, that's true. Too bad I have to come across as a pretentious snob while doing so.

[IWasaCamera]

I wouldn't say pretentious, it's just that praising or belittling music on the basis you presented is really tricky since it's entirely rooted in your individual experience and at times, yours alone.