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yeah, i know this is "the last stand" but we all know there will be another one (especially after those opening weekend figures, WOW). here's what i'd do:
i'd adapt the "days of future past" story from the comic, and set the first half of the movie in the future when mutants have been nearly exterminated and sentinels (big robots) police america. after kitty pryde escapes a mutant internment camp and watches her teammates get killed by the sentinels she travels back in time to stop the asassination that started these dark times, armed with the knowledge that the x-men will be betrayed by gambit and prevented from stopping the asassins (or so she thinks). for the x-men line-up i'd go with wolverine, kitty, iceman, beast, angel, colossus, gambit, and a new female to add some girl power (maybe emma frost). as for the mutant assassins, that's up for grabs. pyro would certainly make sense as one of them, and maybe bring back mystique and/or sabretooth. no magneto though, since this would ultimately be a pretty small part. i know they've tried to stay away from the more fantastic elements like space and time travel, but i think at this point audiences can handle a little bit of it. just do all the future stuff at the beginning then the present day stuff in the second half (rather than go back and forth like the comic did).
so what are everyone else's ideas for how to do a fourth x-men? (note, no comic knowledge necessary, just throw out some ideas)
A picasso blue
05/27/06, 03:24 PM
so did this movie not follow any real comic storyline? besides the Phoenix thing
i really dont remember all of them getting killed off
grimis16
05/27/06, 03:32 PM
I like the future idea. They need Cable if they were to do that and somehow get Apocolypse as the main bad guy. I loved how the cartoon ended with him and Pheniox...and 3 freaking movies down without Gambit, im pissed!
SingleDoubt
05/27/06, 03:35 PM
personally, i would like to see a cameo from spiderman, the avengers, iron man, or silver surfer
FondestMemory
05/27/06, 03:35 PM
so did this movie not follow any real comic storyline? besides the Phoenix thing
i really dont remember all of them getting killed off
it took aspects of a couple, but didn't follow anything too closely.
which, my thing with comic book movies is: the first one should be as close to the comic as possible, after that, the comics can be used as blueprints. so i'm not complaining that the third movie didn't follow anything too closely.
it took aspects of a couple, but didn't follow anything too closely.
which, my thing with comic book movies is: the first one should be as close to the comic as possible, after that, the comics can be used as blueprints. so i'm not complaining that the third movie didn't follow anything too closely.
yep, my sentiments exactly.
this movie also took a lot of the cure plotline (including dr kavita rao) from the wonderful "gifted" storyline they did in astonishing x-men (to anyone curious about picking up some x-men comics, this is a great place to start).
DaveFeelsRight
05/27/06, 04:01 PM
This IS the last movie.
A picasso blue
05/27/06, 04:08 PM
i havent seen it but i know they kill everyone off. which is annoying because thats taking too much liberty with the X Men story
and no Apocalypse!!
i havent seen it but i know they kill everyone off. which is annoying because thats taking too much liberty with the X Men story
and no Apocalypse!!
pretty much all the deaths or depowerings are easily reversable. besides, there's a ton of popular unused/underdeveloped characters, they could easily rotate in new mutants. hell, the line up at the end of x3 consists of 6 characters, with only 2 who were x-men in the previous movies.
Vincewithouthee
05/27/06, 04:29 PM
I would love to have an Apocolypse saga. That would make me love movies 10 times more. For them to do the Apocolypse saga, it HAS to be in a trilogy. There's no way it can go all in one movie. It wouldn't be done right at all.
But, I don't know if that can be done right. I really don't care what happens, as long as they're good.
selftitled85
05/27/06, 04:52 PM
they have ruined x men for me. i loved x3. but i just want them to stop. this most recent movie destroyed the franchise.
they "killed" prof x...they have no cyclops...no jean grey...no mystique...no sabretooth...no rogue...i mean they cannot make a new movie. if they do i will be pissed.
unless they pull a "batman begins" and try to start brand new.
Vincewithouthee
05/27/06, 05:06 PM
they have ruined x men for me. i loved x3. but i just want them to stop. this most recent movie destroyed the franchise.
they "killed" prof x...they have no cyclops...no jean grey...no mystique...no sabretooth...no rogue...i mean they cannot make a new movie. if they do i will be pissed.
unless they pull a "batman begins" and try to start brand new.
I'm not sure if they'll follow the comics or not (which they probably will do), but in the comics Cyclops and Jean Grey (she never really dies because of Phoenix) both come back. Also, the "cure" is only temporary. By the way, sabretooth sucks, so who cares about him. :p
Xavier will be back.
FondestMemory
05/27/06, 05:07 PM
they have ruined x men for me. i loved x3. but i just want them to stop. this most recent movie destroyed the franchise.
they "killed" prof x...they have no cyclops...no jean grey...no mystique...no sabretooth...no rogue...i mean they cannot make a new movie. if they do i will be pissed.
unless they pull a "batman begins" and try to start brand new.
are you serious? that's just silly.
first off, they can make a movie without those characters and come out fine. there's plenty of characters left.
and all the one's you listed, minus sabretooth (who was gone in the first one anyways), they're easily fixable.
they can easily make another movie. and they can easily do enough with it to make it good.
Vincewithouthee
05/27/06, 05:15 PM
are you serious? that's just silly.
first off, they can make a movie without those characters and come out fine. there's plenty of characters left.
and all the one's you listed, minus sabretooth (who was gone in the first one anyways), they're easily fixable.
they can easily make another movie. and they can easily do enough with it to make it good.
Yeah....exactly. I don't see what he's talking about.
tragedyl0ve
05/27/06, 05:56 PM
id like to see sentinals, apocalypse, gambit, and nightcrawler's returnpossibly alittle better use of jugarnaut...... maybe sabretooth can come back... idk if i liked mystique, but i did like her power.....
A picasso blue
05/27/06, 06:39 PM
Phoenix dies something like 10 times in the comics
Adeniz19
05/27/06, 06:58 PM
to have the 4th story evolve around kittty pryde would be retarded.
they just need to add gambit. im so annoyed the films didnt bother. oh and never ever use jubliee, she used to annoy me sooo much.
FondestMemory
05/27/06, 07:58 PM
i would not be surprised at all if gambit makes his way into the fourth. he was always my favorite, but it hasn't bothered me that he's not in the first three. if they use him, i want him to actually be used. in the first three, the only real room for him would be to have him in a role the size of angel in this one.
but, with most of the core cast probably pretty much done, the next one will revolve more around the younger ones. and there was the kitty pride / iceman / rogue situation set up this time around. be cool to see gambit come in and make a run at rogue while she's vulnerable and doubting her relationship with bobby. i think they're sitting on him until they can actually utilize him, as opposed to having him be like jubilee in the first two movies or some shit.
I'm not sure if they'll follow the comics or not (which they probably will do), but in the comics Cyclops and Jean Grey (she never really dies because of Phoenix) both come back. Also, the "cure" is only temporary. By the way, sabretooth sucks, so who cares about him. :p
Xavier will be back.
Uh, yeah, didn't you see? Magneto got his powers back, as will Rogue...
needles & pins
05/27/06, 10:03 PM
http://www.themovieblog.com/archives/2006/01/fox_confirms_xmen_4.html
The fourth will probably focus more on the new relationships set up in 3, with the younger mutants taking a bigger role - which, I would hope, mean Rogue gets her powers back. I was wondering if the strength of the "cure" had to do with what class the mutant was, like the more powerful the mutant, the faster they get over the "cure." But I don't know a lot about the comics or the classes of mutants, so I'm not really sure how that would work out.
Vincewithouthee
05/27/06, 10:04 PM
Uh, yeah, didn't you see? Magneto got his powers back, as will Rogue...
I already know that. That's why I said the cure was only temporary. :p
bruce campbell
05/27/06, 10:16 PM
they have ruined x men for me. i loved x3. but i just want them to stop. this most recent movie destroyed the franchise.
they "killed" prof x...they have no cyclops...no jean grey...no mystique...no sabretooth...no rogue...i mean they cannot make a new movie. if they do i will be pissed.
unless they pull a "batman begins" and try to start brand new.
you're a moron, shut up.
professor x can come back.
they didn't show cyclops die.
jean grey aka the phoenix is able to rise from death again.
mystique.. the cure is temporary.
they didn't show sabretooth die.
rogue, again the cure is only temporary.
i definitely don't agree with a lot of the things that took place in these movies (especially cyclops and rogue not doing much). but to say the movie destroyed the franchise is ridiculous. beast, iceman, and shadowcat pretty much made up for the downfalls in the third movie for me.
selftitled85
05/27/06, 10:37 PM
are you serious? that's just silly.
first off, they can make a movie without those characters and come out fine. there's plenty of characters left.
and all the one's you listed, minus sabretooth (who was gone in the first one anyways), they're easily fixable.
they can easily make another movie. and they can easily do enough with it to make it good.
ok so even though they can make another movie...why would they?
magneto showed at the end that he was wrong about phoenix...he completely blew off mystique so he has no right hand man anymore...pyro...i dont know if he lived or died.
on the x-men front the only main character they could add is gambit. rogue has no powers unless something happens and jubilee was worthless.
even though prof x is in a new body it will still be pointless to have him make a difference. prof x isnt the same without patrick stewart.
and the loss of jean grey and cyclops will completely destroy any story they can think of since they always played a huge role.
emoeric
05/27/06, 10:53 PM
Do you guys not read or what! All of this stuff is easily fixed. Its all been said before. Jean Grey NEVER dies! Shes the damn Pheonix. Cyclops was a huge character but is easily replaced seeing as how Wolverine was the breakout star of these movies. They can all get there powers back, and a story about the younger mutants would honestly in my eyes be just as good cause there are some bad asses in that group!!!
The fourth will probably focus more on the new relationships set up in 3, with the younger mutants taking a bigger role - which, I would hope, mean Rogue gets her powers back. I was wondering if the strength of the "cure" had to do with what class the mutant was, like the more powerful the mutant, the faster they get over the "cure." But I don't know a lot about the comics or the classes of mutants, so I'm not really sure how that would work out.
i was wondering the same thing myself. but on that note, magneto did get injected with 4 of those things, so i would guess if he can shake off 4, the others can beat one. however i feel like they won't give rogue her powers back, because the trilogy started with her and right now she's been given a "happy ending"
ok so even though they can make another movie...why would they?
magneto showed at the end that he was wrong about phoenix...he completely blew off mystique so he has no right hand man anymore...pyro...i dont know if he lived or died.
on the x-men front the only main character they could add is gambit. rogue has no powers unless something happens and jubilee was worthless.
even though prof x is in a new body it will still be pointless to have him make a difference. prof x isnt the same without patrick stewart.
and the loss of jean grey and cyclops will completely destroy any story they can think of since they always played a huge role.
none of that changes the fact that a fourth would make fox assloads of money, so of course they are going to make one.
selftitled85
05/27/06, 11:21 PM
you're a moron, shut up.
professor x can come back.
they didn't show cyclops die.
jean grey aka the phoenix is able to rise from death again.
mystique.. the cure is temporary.
they didn't show sabretooth die.
rogue, again the cure is only temporary.
i definitely don't agree with a lot of the things that took place in these movies (especially cyclops and rogue not doing much). but to say the movie destroyed the franchise is ridiculous. beast, iceman, and shadowcat pretty much made up for the downfalls in the third movie for me.
no they didnt show cyclops die...but it was pretty much a given that he suffered a similar fate as prof x and the other people who pretty much disintegrated.
prof x since he has all the telekinetic ability was able to make a move to someone else...while cyclops cant.
even if mystique is temporarily a human...she will not fight for magneto again which will be stupid. she gave up all the info on magneto and its a given she hates him.
i dont mind the movies taking some artistic liberties...but xmen 3 has brought it to a new level. and i do not want to see it be ruined anymore.
and yes the movie destroyed the franchise because it made wolverine the focal point when since the beginning it has never been about wolverine. it was about the group together while these movies focused more on the individual.
selftitled85
05/27/06, 11:24 PM
i was wondering the same thing myself. but on that note, magneto did get injected with 4 of those things, so i would guess if he can shake off 4, the others can beat one. however i feel like they won't give rogue her powers back, because the trilogy started with her and right now she's been given a "happy ending"
none of that changes the fact that a fourth would make fox assloads of money, so of course they are going to make one.
not if it sucks a lot because they have no one to really base the plot around...
ok so you have storm and wolverine...big woop. the addition of beast is cool but you have killed off two of the most important characters in the series. not to mention you made magneto rethink everything he did at the end which will probably end up leading to him not being so sinister.
fox would prob make ass loads of money but the movie will probably be terrible and have no correlation to the comis whatsoever besides a few names.
kylecrawford
05/28/06, 12:04 AM
ok so for one thing all these people saying that mystique got betrayed, in case you didnt realize, she still helped magneto, and set up those soliders
another thing is, do you know how many times in comics people have died and come back, I mean wtf?
jean grey issssss not dead, the phoenix is, if professor x can come back so can she, cyclops is not dead, they do not show his body his death or anything of the sort
yes the cure is temporary you all should have figured that out right when beast walked in his hand changed and when he walked away it changed back
toad isnt dead either, he was in the brotherhood meeting for a split second...
there is going to be a forth, if not more, they would be stupid not to do it..
fluke182
05/28/06, 12:09 AM
Alright, first off, Cyclops is not replaceable. Look at IGN's top 25 most important X-Men - Cyclops is number one, and that is definitely within reason. He is the glue that keeps everything together and his abuse in the past two movies definitely bothered me because he is far too important to just cut out. He is the foundation for the whole team and idea. Without Xavier, they needed him because he was always the Boy Scout leader who bought in so intensely to the ideals of Xavier that everyone else fell in line around him. With that said, bring him back and I will be very happy.
I think they should do either a Genosha story (Like X-Tinction agenda where the nation is taking mutants and turning them into slaves, when the Genosha guys come in and steal some of the X-kids and the teams have to go in to get them back) or a purely Sentinels based story, but the Sentinels story doesn't fit so well now that the world and mutants are on good terms (Which is BS, they should NEVER be on good terms).
Here's my idea - do the Genosha story, that's a good way to bring in new characters, like in X-Tinction Agenda when the X folk assaulted they were stopped by a very powerful mutant who could neutralize Cyclops, aka Havok, Alex Summers. Introduce Alex Summers coming to the Xavier Institute to mourn his brother's passing and Storm asking him if he would like to come back to take his brothers role. Added one X-Men. Have Nightcrawler mosey his ass back in. Added another. Have Angel finish training, there ya go. That's a team of six, with Angel, Wolverine, Beast, Storm, Havok and Nightcrawler, plus X-Kids Colossus, Iceman and Kitty, maybe even Rogue if her powers are back. 7 guys to 3 girls, ratio sucks! Maybe add Emma Frost/White Queen to boost the girl quotient. Anyways, so we get introduced White Queen, new characters and all and have reports of the horror going on in Genosha, when they get attacked and some assortment of X-kids and main team people (Angel, White Queen, Rogue and Iceman sounds good).
Basically at that point it becomes the existing X-people on the inside trying to escape their captors (In X-Tinction Agenda it was an old friend of X-Factor - Cameron Hodge - behind the whole thing. Maybe in this one you could make it someone crazy, like the depowered Magneto or maybe somehow Senator Kelly or Stryker survived one of the first two, or maybe even better yet, it's Trask from X3 and this could lead to his creation of Sentinels, or maybe you combine it with his creation of Sentinels and the attack could be led by a team of them. Oooo...this is a saucy idea. Anyways, so the whole point is the X-Kids trying to get out or at least survive while the expanded X-roster is trying to get in and rescue them, while dealing with the threat of human soldiers that hate mutants and Sentinels. That would be sweet, but it seriously would have to be two and a half hours. Maybe this sounds a lot better to me than others, but I think it would be sweet. Obviously it could use some fleshing out but it's a good skeleton of a story. For reference, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0871359227/002-8932494-0352847?v=glance&n=283155.
Definitely would combine the aspects of mutant hatred, bigotry and fear of the unknown that X-writers love, and it would combine the ideas of lots of badass mutants, focusing on main mutants and holy shit, Sentinels and massive destruction. Not to mention this could easily lead into a variation on the Days of Future Past storyline, or even be half of a Days of Future Past story with this one ending with Sentinels gaining sentience and deciding to hunt down all mutants, while the second movie being something involving the general destruction of most all mutants when Magneto gets his powers back and owns Sentinel face! Man...a boy can dream.
xearlynovemberx
05/28/06, 12:23 AM
apoclypse need i say more
FreshyFresh23
05/28/06, 01:18 AM
AoA would be an awesome movie...
Adeniz19
05/28/06, 02:15 AM
ok so even though they can make another movie...why would they?
magneto showed at the end that he was wrong about phoenix...he completely blew off mystique so he has no right hand man anymore...pyro...i dont know if he lived or died.
on the x-men front the only main character they could add is gambit. rogue has no powers unless something happens and jubilee was worthless.
even though prof x is in a new body it will still be pointless to have him make a difference. prof x isnt the same without patrick stewart.
and the loss of jean grey and cyclops will comwhy would they make another movie? $$$$
also they are not even close to running out of characters. with cyclops gone they could go with gambit to be the one that will butt heads with wolverine. they still have to develop colossus' and archangel's roles. they have kitty pryde and iceman and we will probably see professor x in some form or another. as for villians, in the 3rd they hinted at sentinal's being used. they might go that route and maybe apocolypse? that would be awesome. plus possibly the return of magneto, pyro and juggernaut. that is still an allstar cast of xmen
selftitled85
05/28/06, 06:34 AM
why would they make another movie? $$$$
also they are not even close to running out of characters. with cyclops gone they could go with gambit to be the one that will butt heads with wolverine. they still have to develop colossus' and archangel's roles. they have kitty pryde and iceman and we will probably see professor x in some form or another. as for villians, in the 3rd they hinted at sentinal's being used. they might go that route and maybe apocolypse? that would be awesome. plus possibly the return of magneto, pyro and juggernaut. that is still an allstar cast of xmen
then they should not call it x-men at that point. when you kill off two of the most important characters there is no way you can use any normal x-men story now.
and seriously people...you want a fourth movie but you are giving all these "ifs." you do not know if they would bring in gambit or if cyclops or jean grey miraculously survive.
the script will prob be shit. the plot will prob be thin and worhless. i seriously think a fourth movie will taint the series more than do any good.
and to whomever said mystique set up the army how would she know it was a decoy? they didnt show anything about magneto telling her to help out. he told her they could not be on the same side anymore. she was betrayed and pretty much left to the humans to die. i dont feel she is going to take that lightly.
bruce campbell
05/28/06, 10:23 AM
then they should not call it x-men at that point. when you kill off two of the most important characters there is no way you can use any normal x-men story now.
and seriously people...you want a fourth movie but you are giving all these "ifs." you do not know if they would bring in gambit or if cyclops or jean grey miraculously survive.
the script will prob be shit. the plot will prob be thin and worhless. i seriously think a fourth movie will taint the series more than do any good.
and to whomever said mystique set up the army how would she know it was a decoy? they didnt show anything about magneto telling her to help out. he told her they could not be on the same side anymore. she was betrayed and pretty much left to the humans to die. i dont feel she is going to take that lightly.
if he didn't tell her anything, how would she know where to send the army? we don't really know if she knew it was a decoy or not. my guess is that she knew..
selftitled85
05/28/06, 10:28 AM
if he didn't tell her anything, how would she know where to send the army? we don't really know if she knew it was a decoy or not. my guess is that she knew..
magneto made it obvious that even if you are a friend...if you lose your powers you are not one of them anymore. mystique was seen as a human and was used as a martyr...but he would not want to be associated with her anymore.
Veritas11
05/28/06, 10:37 AM
To me the Apocalypse saga might be a little difficult to pull off. The sentinels should have a bigger role (i.e. we actually see more than just a head seeing as how they are an integral part of the X-Men franchise). Killing off Cyclops was a huge mistake and I'm really pissed that he had such a small role in all three movies. If they do anything new they seriously need to think about how they are going to use the characters. In "Last Stand" having Colossus in the movie seemed unnecessary except for the Fastball Special. Angel's role should have been larger as well. If anything they should take a closer look at the comics or even the cartoon and they can make a really good movie.
This of course is all assuming there will be a fourth movie which I think probably won't happen.
JIMMYateEARTH
05/28/06, 10:52 AM
so did this movie not follow any real comic storyline? besides the Phoenix thing
i really dont remember all of them getting killed off
IT combined the Phoenix and the first Asthonshing X-men stroy arc. Except Leech didn't have any thing to do with that cure.
Also I am sich and tired of hearing people complain about X-men dying. Cause you obviosuly Know absolutely nothing of the x-men then. THEY DON"T DIE, they just take a brake and miraculously come back. The days of futures past story was what they were alluding to in the beggining of the film in the Dnager room Sequence..
I think the next movie should just involve sentienal, since they introduced Trask who developes them.
shermanology
05/28/06, 11:00 AM
secret wars anybody? comeone, it would be badass.
lesto17
05/28/06, 11:00 AM
and seriously people...you want a fourth movie but you are giving all these "ifs." you do not know if they would bring in gambit or if cyclops or jean grey miraculously survive.
phoenix - A bird in Egyptian mythology that lived in the desert for 500 years and then consumed itself by fire, later to rise renewed from its ashes.
The whole idea of a phoenix is that it can't die. Even when it does it rises again from its ashes. It would be far from a stretch to bring back Jean.
JIMMYateEARTH
05/28/06, 11:01 AM
Alright, first off, Cyclops is not replaceable. Look at IGN's top 25 most important X-Men - Cyclops is number one, and that is definitely within reason. He is the glue that keeps everything together and his abuse in the past two movies definitely bothered me because he is far too important to just cut out. He is the foundation for the whole team and idea. Without Xavier, they needed him because he was always the Boy Scout leader who bought in so intensely to the ideals of Xavier that everyone else fell in line around him. With that said, bring him back and I will be very happy.
I think they should do either a Genosha story (Like X-Tinction agenda where the nation is taking mutants and turning them into slaves, when the Genosha guys come in and steal some of the X-kids and the teams have to go in to get them back) or a purely Sentinels based story, but the Sentinels story doesn't fit so well now that the world and mutants are on good terms (Which is BS, they should NEVER be on good terms).
Here's my idea - do the Genosha story, that's a good way to bring in new characters, like in X-Tinction Agenda when the X folk assaulted they were stopped by a very powerful mutant who could neutralize Cyclops, aka Havok, Alex Summers. Introduce Alex Summers coming to the Xavier Institute to mourn his brother's passing and Storm asking him if he would like to come back to take his brothers role. Added one X-Men. Have Nightcrawler mosey his ass back in. Added another. Have Angel finish training, there ya go. That's a team of six, with Angel, Wolverine, Beast, Storm, Havok and Nightcrawler, plus X-Kids Colossus, Iceman and Kitty, maybe even Rogue if her powers are back. 7 guys to 3 girls, ratio sucks! Maybe add Emma Frost/White Queen to boost the girl quotient. Anyways, so we get introduced White Queen, new characters and all and have reports of the horror going on in Genosha, when they get attacked and some assortment of X-kids and main team people (Angel, White Queen, Rogue and Iceman sounds good).
Basically at that point it becomes the existing X-people on the inside trying to escape their captors (In X-Tinction Agenda it was an old friend of X-Factor - Cameron Hodge - behind the whole thing. Maybe in this one you could make it someone crazy, like the depowered Magneto or maybe somehow Senator Kelly or Stryker survived one of the first two, or maybe even better yet, it's Trask from X3 and this could lead to his creation of Sentinels, or maybe you combine it with his creation of Sentinels and the attack could be led by a team of them. Oooo...this is a saucy idea. Anyways, so the whole point is the X-Kids trying to get out or at least survive while the expanded X-roster is trying to get in and rescue them, while dealing with the threat of human soldiers that hate mutants and Sentinels. That would be sweet, but it seriously would have to be two and a half hours. Maybe this sounds a lot better to me than others, but I think it would be sweet. Obviously it could use some fleshing out but it's a good skeleton of a story. For reference, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0871359227/002-8932494-0352847?v=glance&n=283155.
Definitely would combine the aspects of mutant hatred, bigotry and fear of the unknown that X-writers love, and it would combine the ideas of lots of badass mutants, focusing on main mutants and holy shit, Sentinels and massive destruction. Not to mention this could easily lead into a variation on the Days of Future Past storyline, or even be half of a Days of Future Past story with this one ending with Sentinels gaining sentience and deciding to hunt down all mutants, while the second movie being something involving the general destruction of most all mutants when Magneto gets his powers back and owns Sentinel face! Man...a boy can dream.
That is a great Idea Fluke a Genosha story would be great. I didn't even think of that.
lesto17
05/28/06, 11:02 AM
That is a great Idea Fluke a Genosha story would be great. I didn't even think of that.
Agreed.
JIMMYateEARTH
05/28/06, 11:08 AM
secret wars anybody? comeone, it would be badass.
DOWN THE ROAD, yes after all the main movies have come out, like Ironman, Captian America, and THOR, the Big Characters. I would liek to starts to see some cross-over's in teh movies like the mentioning of the Fantastic Four in the next spiderman movie.
I would've liked to see Age of Apocalypse, with Holocaust and Wolverine with one hand and whatnot.
I would like to see Apocalypse the 12, there you could add a lot of new characters without introducing them a lot. Of course I would love to see an Onslaught movie.
However I think they are going to make a prequel of Wolverine, and maybe a prequel of Magneto.
Veritas11
05/28/06, 01:10 PM
not if it sucks a lot because they have no one to really base the plot around...
ok so you have storm and wolverine...big woop. the addition of beast is cool but you have killed off two of the most important characters in the series. not to mention you made magneto rethink everything he did at the end which will probably end up leading to him not being so sinister.
fox would prob make ass loads of money but the movie will probably be terrible and have no correlation to the comis whatsoever besides a few names.
Using that theory they could turn him into Joseph. (If you've read the more recent comic books you'll know what I'm talking about)
they have ruined x men for me. i loved x3. but i just want them to stop. this most recent movie destroyed the franchise.
they "killed" prof x...they have no cyclops...no jean grey...no mystique...no sabretooth...no rogue...i mean they cannot make a new movie. if they do i will be pissed.
unless they pull a "batman begins" and try to start brand new.
christian bale to the rescue again! this time not as batman but as wolverine.
id love to see it
x men 4 bring back nightcrawler as he was the best developed character in the trilogy and was only in one of the movies, he made x2 for me. and is my favorite character by far in the trilogy. without him , the new x men movie was sub par. if not the worse one of the trilogy. isnt that how trilogys work though. the first or second being the best ones and the third always sucking ass. ( matrix, blade..etc ) it seems the 3rd one in any trilogys always flop the nuts.
selftitled85
05/28/06, 05:07 PM
christian bale to the rescue again! this time not as batman but as wolverine.
id love to see it
x men 4 bring back nightcrawler as he was the best developed character in the trilogy and was only in one of the movies, he made x2 for me. and is my favorite character by far in the trilogy. without him , the new x men movie was sub par. if not the worse one of the trilogy. isnt that how trilogys work though. the first or second being the best ones and the third always sucking ass. ( matrix, blade..etc ) it seems the 3rd one in any trilogys always flop the nuts.
i thought the third one was too frantic.
emoeric
05/28/06, 05:18 PM
I dont know what it was but I personally liked the 3rd one the best. They made it to where they could either close the x-men story completly or do another one easily. I think they should do another one cause there was just soo much that they diddnt touch on from the comics. And this is the only one of the trilogy that has left me wanting another movie more than anything else!!
Adeniz19
05/28/06, 05:53 PM
then they should not call it x-men at that point. when you kill off two of the most important characters there is no way you can use any normal x-men story now.
and seriously people...you want a fourth movie but you are giving all these "ifs." you do not know if they would bring in gambit or if cyclops or jean grey miraculously survive.
the script will prob be shit. the plot will prob be thin and worhless. i seriously think a fourth movie will taint the series more than do any good.
and to whomever said mystique set up the army how would she know it was a decoy? they didnt show anything about magneto telling her to help out. he told her they could not be on the same side anymore. she was betrayed and pretty much left to the humans to die. i dont feel she is going to take that lightly.seriously what is different between "ifs" and "probablys". you don't know what is going to happen either. you are so quick to call it shit when they have so many good story lines they can still use. they killed of cyclops because they had to. would you of rather had a different actor take over for it? i think that would ruin the movie alot more then not having him there. cyclops didn't even have that big of a role in all the movies so i think they could pull it off. the only arguement i agree with you is with prof. x. If they do make a 4th it would be interesting to see how they pull that off.
I just have really enjoyed this trilogy so far and I don't want to see it end yet. They have left so much wide open for the 4th and makes me really excited what they could do for it.
ian mckellon comes back as magneto, they bring back alan cumming as nightcrawler and they got a good x men 4 to make up for the piss poor 3. i dont care what the storyline is as long as them two come back ( two best characters in the trilogy)
but is the wolverine spin off suppose to take place between the 1st and 2nd x men? are they taking that route with the storyline. kinda just gonna do where wolverine leaves in the 1st. movie than show him coming back to the school that leads up the 2nd. that wouldnt that bad if they put some cool baddies in the mix.
aloneatlastnj
05/28/06, 09:36 PM
is the wolverine spin off suppose to take place between the 1st and 2nd x men? are they taking that route with the storyline. kinda just gonna do where wolverine leaves in the 1st. movie than show him coming back to the school that leads up the 2nd. that wouldnt that bad if they put some cool baddies in the mix.
i'm hoping the wolverine movie actually goes into the wolverine storyline. there could be some good stuff if they decided to follow the cartoon moreso than comic book and movie plot, though for consistency's sake, they should incorporate the movie a bit. they should start it when he's receiving the adamantium skeleton at alkaline lake with stryker (haha its my last name!) and lady deathstrike (who, if i'm not mistaken, is also one of his creations). by introducing lady deathstrike into the prequel, it sets up for the relationship plot from the cartoon, which would bring you to X2, OR if you really wanted to go this route, wolverine's quest for love and a relationship with lady deathstrike, where he finds the morlocks in the sewers.
personally, i'm assuming that X3 was the end of this particular 'saga'. showing magneto's ability to manipulate the chess pieces and the transferral of professor x to another body is leaving the franchise open to other movies, and that all is not finished. what i'd love to see them do is bring in some storylines from the comics, xmen legends video games(such as the rise of apocolypse) or even the evolution tv series. we got a little taste of the phoenix saga here with the ending of X2 and X3 in its entirety. there's so many different and exciting storylines and so many other mutants that can be developed and/or introduced through them(archangel, iceman, rogue, juggernaut, gambit, bishop, forge, cable, quicksilver, etc. etc.)
Adeniz19
05/28/06, 10:24 PM
the deathstrike idea would be cool but i don't think they could make a prequel out of that because in X2 they introduce deathstrike as someone who wolverine never met before. stryker even says "i used to think you were one of a kind until now" or something like that.
JIMMYateEARTH
05/28/06, 11:29 PM
The Wolverine Movie will most likely deal with his Origin, Which is one of the Best Comics Marvel has ever produced.
it was supposed to be a trilogy. theyre not doing anymore, the next movies will be wolverine's.
Vincewithouthee
05/28/06, 11:42 PM
The Wolverine movie could be better than the entire Xmen trilogy. Same is possible with Magneto's movie.
Adeniz19
05/28/06, 11:58 PM
they need to release the xmen animated series on dvd :(
Vincewithouthee
05/29/06, 12:01 AM
they need to release the xmen animated series on dvd :(
I know. Same with Spider-Man.
Adeniz19
05/29/06, 12:05 AM
I know. Same with Spider-Man.why don't they? they would make a killing right now with all of the movie releases.
Considering that in the danger room scene they were fighting a sentinel, I think that is a pretty damn big tip off as to where the movies are going.
i would like to see cool cameos in these movies of other superheros. i always wanted to see wesley snipes as blade in the spider man movies, i thought they would have kicked ass.:(
JIMMYateEARTH
05/29/06, 09:34 AM
I know. Same with Spider-Man.
I been saying they should release these shows for so long I wish they would.
I just wish people would stop comparing the movies to the Cartoon, because they draw thier ideas from the comics not the cartoon.
JIMMYateEARTH
05/29/06, 09:38 AM
Using that theory they could turn him into Joseph. (If you've read the more recent comic books you'll know what I'm talking about)
No they won't cause in the RECENT Comics Magneto has Died only to come back, then to be depowered. The Joseph character was a late 90's thing that didn't go so great, also he wasn't aware that he was Magneto.
A picasso blue
05/29/06, 09:43 AM
I know that X2 explained Wolverine's story without much detail at all
but is there enoguh now for an additional movie? some stuff would be repeats of the info in X2
JIMMYateEARTH
05/29/06, 10:00 AM
I know that X2 explained Wolverine's story without much detail at all
but is there enoguh now for an additional movie? some stuff would be repeats of the info in X2
THere is more than enough for an additional movie Wolverine, or should I say James Howlett, has been around for close to a hundred years.
FondestMemory
05/29/06, 12:14 PM
I know that X2 explained Wolverine's story without much detail at all
but is there enoguh now for an additional movie? some stuff would be repeats of the info in X2
absolutely. if it's a prequel, which it should be, there's more than enough. there's the whole creation of him and all that jazz.
FOBcareemo
05/29/06, 12:43 PM
THere is more than enough for an additional movie Wolverine, or should I say James Howlett, has been around for close to a hundred years.
I'd love to see the whole wolverine goes to japanthing with omega red and then the whole james howlett thing and hopefully that can answer the doghowlett/sabretoothe thing
for the wolverine solo movie i'd love to see them adapt the original wolverine mini-series chris claremont and frank miller did in the early 80's. logan travels to japan and gets involved with the daughter of the boss of the yoshida clan (the marvel equivalent of the yakuza). another classic story i'd recommend to anyone looking for some summer reading (available in paperback simply titled "wolverine").
FOBcareemo
05/29/06, 02:33 PM
for the wolverine solo movie i'd love to see them adapt the original wolverine mini-series chris claremont and frank miller did in the early 80's. logan travels to japan and gets involved with the daughter of the boss of the yoshida clan (the marvel equivalent of the yakuza). another classic story i'd recommend to anyone looking for some summer reading (available in paperback simply titled "wolverine").
i agree
Dirty Ernie
05/29/06, 09:02 PM
i love the idea of a wolverine spinoff or a prequel
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