We Came As Romans - To Plant a Seed

[fashionshowdown]

We Came As Romans – To Plant a Seed
Record Label: Equal Vision
Release Date: November 3, 2009

If you haven't heard of We Came As Romans, get ready because they're headed at you like a freight train into a brick wall. Amongst the chaos and wreckage, you'll find strings, heavy and intricate guitar work, magnificent vocals, and most importantly, love.

What separates WCAR from acts like The Devil Wears Prada and Attack Attack! is their range; they don't just do one thing and repeat. Each song offers a new taste. They play music to plant the seed of love, something they hope can grow in everyone that listens to them or sees a show. They are the best band I've ever seen at practicing what they preach. You will not find a nicer bunch of guys than Andy, Dave, Eric, Joshua, Kyle and Lou.

The CD opens up with the title track “To Plant a Seed,” which boasts some heavy guitars and vocalist Dave Stephens tearing it up like it’s 1983. At the first taste, this CD is heavier than the Dreams EP, and yet even more melodic. The guitar work is intricate and blends so well with the synthesizer. It becomes apparent that synth player/vocalist Kyle Pavone has stepped up his game on this CD, sounding even better than the Dreams EP, which is quite an impressive feat. On drums you’d never believe that drummer Eric Choi just turned nineteen, blasting out complex fills and impressive arrangements of drums that make WCAR that much better.

“Broken Statues” was the first track to be placed on MySpace prior to the release and is definitely their best track to date. Featuring excellent strings combined with duel vocals, gang vocals and excellent breakdowns it will catch your attention in a heartbeat. It also is one of the best examples of what WCAR is here to do with the lyrics “Show me your hands let me wash them clean. Show me your heart and let me heal you.”

“Roads That Don't End and Views That Never Cease” is a song about being out on the road and missing home, but what it isn’t is a stereotypical song about being on the road. There is vocal layering that makes it hard not to sing, and breakdowns that make it hard for you to stay sitting in a chair.

The songs “Dreams” and “Intentions” have be redone from the release of the Dreams EP with minor tweaks. The singing sounds cleaner and there is some extra guitar work in parts, as well as heavier screams. Normally I’m not a fan of tracks that are redone, but these were done tastefully and definitely add to the flow of the CD.

“We Are Reasons” starts off with strings that have a familiar sound; they sound like the music played between songs at WCAR shows. It's pretty cool to see them used in a song. It’s got twangy guitars and an overall heavy feeling that inspires fists pumps and singalongs alike. Some moving lyrics at the end of the track “I plead to change my life, just before I dream. And wake to realize that change is inside me.” Bold words to end a song on, and they leave a lasting mark on the listener.

“Beliefs” starts very slow and laid-back but transitions to heavy synthesizer and alternating guitars. It builds to a climax at a chorus which features both vocalists dueling back and forth. Guitars ring out like shots fired, and the drums and keyboard play very well together. In the middle of the song the keyboard is the focal point with a breakdown with vocalist Dave Stephens belting out “Find faith in life. In whatever will keep you breathing.”

The CD closes with “An Ever Growing Wonder” and the line “So let us restore each other, not with haste, but gently. For an empty cup cannot fill another.” It does a great job to leave the listener thinking about the message they have just received.

We Came As Romans is currently on tour with The Chariot and Oh Sleeper. Following that tour, they are on tour with I See Stars, Broadway and Of Mice and Men. Be sure to check them out soon while they are at small venues, because as you'll see by my ratings, this cd is that good-- no gimmicks, no filler, and before you know it We Came As Romans will be headlining at Warped Tour.

bassist Andy Glass, vocalists Dave Stephens and Kyle Pavone, drummer Eric Choi, and guitarists Joshua Moore and Lou Cotton

1. To Plant A Seed
2. Broken Statues
3. Intentions (ft. Tyler “Telle” Smith of The Word Alive)
4. Roads That Don't End And Views That Never Cease
5. Dreams
6. We Are The Reasons
7. Beliefs
8. I Will Not Reap Destruction
9. Searching, Seeking, Reaching, Always
10. An Ever-Growing Wonder

The Devil Wears Prada, The Word Alive, The Chariot, Amarna Reign, Underoath Album Title; setting/mood

www.myspace.com/wecameasromans (http://www.myspace.com/wecameasromans)

[Handraa]

Great review man. These guys are going places.

[honestykills]

spinning now and loving it.

[PureBlueSF]

I love this album. Beliefs is my personal favorite song.

[denissuxx]

eh

[kevinAIWW]

Sick sick sick sick CD. It exceeded every expectation I had for this band.

[ChaseTheseStars]

I don't know...yes, this band is talented but at the same time...the whole singer with high vocal range mixed with a low end screamer has all been done the same. Yes, its how the music is meant to be because of the genre but to say they stand apart from other bands in the genre is kind of hard since they all seem to blend into one honestly. But yes, on a technical level the instrumentation is good and on a level of the "screamo" genre they've got all the ingredients so they'll go far within their scene but thats probably about it since this genre is pretty played out now.

[archerboy]

This review wasn't very balanced, but I still agree with it :D I mean they're not the most original (synth, strings, scream/sing) but I enjoy them. This album put them into a more post-hardcore genre than the synth style of their EP - which takes some use to adjust to, but they are addicting as ever!

[sweepthenation]

Love this album, but ap.nets staff refuse to review this, they love their acoustic-indie hipster music too much to pay attention to this.

[Richard Maxim]

Wow, you really love this band.

[Billy Black]

Shit sounds generic as fuck and belongs on Rise Records, not Equal Vison. How are they different from all the other sing/scream scenecore bands?
It sounds this way because it has been produced by Joey Sturgis.
Though I'm not putting him down in any way possible, and I don't mean to offend anybody, but he definitely has his signature style and I can recognize one of his albums right away.

And what separates this band from the others are their solid musicianship, precise and impressing guitar work, melodic and often orchestral arrangements, and their message of love and brotherhood.

I've watched this band grow since 2006, and the changes have been incredible. They deserve to make it.

[crazytoledo]

Everyone tells me they suck live and those cleans on this CD are way too over produced it kills the songs that are mainly singing.

[The Summer Ends]

holy lol @ this review

this is the most generic scene garbage. clean vocals are produced to hell and back.

[vakuola]

BOTCH.

That's all I have to say.

Oh, btw, band sucks.

[Domenic182]

95% HAHAHA

x

[moneymaker.]

i just saw them live last monday in arkansas... they were good, i liked them. but headlining warped tour in a couple years? no way.

[PoweredbyPJ]

i just saw them live last monday in arkansas... they were good, i liked them. but headlining warped tour in a couple years? no way.
i totally agree. the cd is good but I feel like they repeat a lot of the same song structures over and over way too much throughout the different tracks.

im seeing them tonight and im so pumped

[fashionshowdown]

It's not "christcore silliness" that's a pretty arrogant remark. What WCAR preaches is not "Obey God or you will perish!!" they preach solely about love. No bells or whistles, just love, love for your fellow man, not because they're a believer in God, but because they are your brother in Christ. Please don't compare this to Chiodos, it's as far away from it as can be.


Also, it isn't garbage. Yes the production has a "sound" to it, but that is the trademark of Joey Sturgis...that I happen to love, after all this is a review of my opinion.

[mcquizzle]

I'll say that I enjoyed this cd more than many like it. The score may be a bit high though, but hey its your opinion

[Theher3tic]

The clean vocals on this are excruciating. This album doesn't even sound real with its super over production. I was really looking forward to this, very disappointed.

[crazytoledo]

I've heard that from a bunch of people. Plus it's always mentioned in every single We Came as Romans thread

Chiodos does all of that except the Christcore silliness much, much better.


Not really.

Drew Beringer has given low 70s - mid 80s to Devil Wears Prada, Oh Sleeper, August Burns Red, Silverstein, From First to Last, Chiodos and countless other scenecore bands.

I'm not sure if WCAR would be considered Christcore? I know that a lot of very religious people drink alcohol and it's not seen as a bad thing, but for some reason, drinking and being a christian in this scene (either band or fan) is looked completely down on to the point where it's almost the stereotype that if you drink you're not christian? And I've seen pictures of everyone from WCAR drinking before.

I had a good laugh though when I found out not everyone in Oh Sleeper is actually christian. I did shots of Jack with their guitarist once

[DanielJames]

There is no way possible that you can convince me that this album is as good as you say it is. This sound has been done over and over again. Like others here have said, the review is completely unbalanced and your bias shows through more than anything.

[kevinAIWW]

I'm not sure if WCAR would be considered Christcore? I know that a lot of very religious people drink alcohol and it's not seen as a bad thing, but for some reason, drinking and being a christian in this scene (either band or fan) is looked completely down on to the point where it's almost the stereotype that if you drink you're not christian? And I've seen pictures of everyone from WCAR drinking before.

I had a good laugh though when I found out not everyone in Oh Sleeper is actually christian. I did shots of Jack with their guitarist once
This.

[kevinAIWW]

Album was amazing, everything was great. Sounded spectacular. End of story.

[RuslanFedotenko]

holy lol @ this review

this is the most generic scene garbage. clean vocals are produced to hell and back.

coming from a guy with All Time Low and Hit The Lights in their username this really means a lot since those bands are the most creative, non-cheesy, non-homo, sounding bands i've ever heard. seriously, do you drive around with all time low and hit the lights booming out of your speakers? your friends dont think you are gay for that?

atleast have a more elitest username like BNandATDI if you want to talk shit on it

[Theher3tic]

coming from a guy with All Time Low and Hit The Lights in their username this really means a lot since those bands are the most creative, non-cheesy, non-homo, sounding bands i've ever heard. seriously, do you drive around with all time low and hit the lights booming out of your speakers? your friends dont think you are gay for that?

atleast have a more elitest username like BNandATDI if you want to talk shit on it
Well aren't you elitist. I bet you feel sooo cool blastin your WCAR and UO for everyone to hear. You're hardcore man. Hardcore.

[Mario57]

95 ?? oh god ! put ur head in the water and think

[crazytoledo]

Well aren't you elitist. I bet you feel sooo cool blastin your WCAR and UO for everyone to hear. You're hardcore man. Hardcore.
I think he was proving a point to that kid. The kid called WCAR generic, but his username is based on around bands that aren't exactly original either so it was kind of hypocritical of him to say shit about the review

[Theher3tic]

I think he was proving a point to that kid. The kid called WCAR generic, but his username is based on around bands that aren't exactly original either so it was kind of hypocritical of him to say shit about the review
Oh I know. And I agree with him about that. Just the hypocrisy bothered me. Just cuz he likes jammin out to some pop doesn't mean he's gay. Try playin wcar with a bunch of girls in the car, tell me how that goes.

[crazytoledo]

Oh I know. And I agree with him about that. Just the hypocrisy bothered me. Just cuz he likes jammin out to some pop doesn't mean he's gay. Try playin wcar with a bunch of girls in the car, tell me how that goes.
Depends on the girl. My girlfriend likes mainly only pop and pop punk and bands I can't stand (nevershoutnever comes to mind, I seriously hate it) but she recently got into We Came As Romans. I can see a decent amount of girls hating it though

[Theher3tic]

Lol, lucky you then! Doesn't usually go over too well. And for the record, I loved the Dreams EP. So I'm not a hater or anything.

[princesschad]

Love this album, but ap.nets staff refuse to review this, they love their acoustic-indie hipster music too much to pay attention to this.
no, they just like good music.

[danawalker]

where is telle in "intentions"? I keep listening and can't pick him out.

[sweepthenation]

no, they just like good music.
No, they refuse to diversify. If they will review Chiodos, Underoath, ADTR, and TDWP, but not WCAR, that's just ignorant.

[circa jusTurna]

95% is a bit excessive

[princesschad]

No, they refuse to diversify. If they will review Chiodos, Underoath, ADTR, and TDWP, but not WCAR, that's just ignorant.
sorry, but "diversity" is not the word I'd choose when I think about those bands.

[sweepthenation]

sorry, but "diversity" is not the word I'd choose when I think about those bands.
Maybe it all sounds the same to you, but all of your acoustin indie bands sound the same to us

[anthonydarko]

Lol what a ridiculous score. What a one sided review.

[SkiesSo Blue]

Album was amazing, everything was great. Sounded spectacular. End of story.
THIS times 100000000000000000 sorry for everyone who listens to every album only to critic it and find its faults rather than just enjoying it as music rather it be bad or good in "your opinion". i would still love this album if it were even more over produced get over it!

[princesschad]

Maybe it all sounds the same to you, but all of your acoustin indie bands sound the same to us
and what indie acoustic bands would those be? seeing as how I never mentioned any and all...you must know me better than I know myself!

[princesschad]

Lol what a ridiculous score. What a one sided review.
yup. I'm wondering if the reviewer works for the band.

[Max_123]

where is telle in "intentions"? I keep listening and can't pick him out.
after the last breakdown towards the end of the song
he sings " stand with me and see what my eyes have seen..." and so on

[red8ge]

Expected this to be really good, but it was pretty meh.

[abellaw]

I have only given this album one spin. I definitely don't agree that this album deserves a 95. I agree it seemed to be a better release in this genre. But it is far from the near perfect 95.

I have to give it more listens to be sure but i liked it. but i am a sucker for this genre.

[MILFCORE]

Fucking love this album too, but... score is still too ridiculously high.

[denissuxx]

posted again for comedic value haha

[wendjiqn]

10 for lyrics? :rotfl:

this is one of the most mind numbingly stupid things i've ever seen.

[Matthew Tsai]

holy lol @ this review

this is the most generic scene garbage. clean vocals are produced to hell and back.
you're right, but holy lol @ your own username first

[TotalCollapse]

lol

[anthonydarko]

coming from a guy with All Time Low and Hit The Lights in their username this really means a lot since those bands are the most creative, non-cheesy, non-homo, sounding bands i've ever heard. seriously, do you drive around with all time low and hit the lights booming out of your speakers? your friends dont think you are gay for that?

atleast have a more elitest username like BNandATDI if you want to talk shit on it
Wow that statement was pretty much uncalled for. Also you want to put down those bands for being uncreative and cheesy, and yet, your avatar is a record by one of the cheesiest and most unoriginal Chirstcore bands to ever be put on Solid State's shitty roster. Talk about irony.

[ninthandash]

They should stop giving bands that work with Joey Sturgis a name. I mean seriously, labels would be able to cut TONS off of their marketing budget.

[fashionshowdown]

yup. I'm wondering if the reviewer works for the band.
I do not work for the band... Happened to find them randomly after the Dreams EP and it really changed my life. Since this is a review of my opinion, I believe it can be as one sided as I want. I find the lyrics to be extremely moving, and the message of brotherhood and love to be 10 steps up from whatever other music is out there. If you don't like it, don't listen to it...this is how I feel about this CD, and this band's music. It's been a stepping stone in a big movement in my life, and I'm thankful for it.

[fashionshowdown]

Love this album, but ap.nets staff refuse to review this, they love their acoustic-indie hipster music too much to pay attention to this.
that made my day haha. Sorry but I just can't get into Manchester Orchestra, and I don't like the new Brand New...yup I said it, a die hard BN fan doesn't like their newest CD. boom!

[anthonydarko]

I do not work for the band... Happened to find them randomly after the Dreams EP and it really changed my life. Since this is a review of my opinion, I believe it can be as one sided as I want. I find the lyrics to be extremely moving, and the message of brotherhood and love to be 10 steps up from whatever other music is out there. If you don't like it, don't listen to it...this is how I feel about this CD, and this band's music. It's been a stepping stone in a big movement in my life, and I'm thankful for it.
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that made my day haha. Sorry but I just can't get into Manchester Orchestra, and I don't like the new Brand New...yup I said it, a die hard BN fan doesn't like their newest CD. boom!
So did a lot of other people, what's your point?

[kbi the crowing]

the arguments in this are mind-numbing, at least on one side of each.

[princesschad]

I do not work for the band... Happened to find them randomly after the Dreams EP and it really changed my life. Since this is a review of my opinion, I believe it can be as one sided as I want. I find the lyrics to be extremely moving, and the message of brotherhood and love to be 10 steps up from whatever other music is out there. If you don't like it, don't listen to it...this is how I feel about this CD, and this band's music. It's been a stepping stone in a big movement in my life, and I'm thankful for it.
a review by nature should not be one-sided. it's a critical evaluation of a work, and since no work is perfect, a one-sided review defeats the purpose and makes people question the authenticity of the reviewer.

and seriously, there are many many many more bands out there that carry a far better message of brotherhood and love. don't make me laugh.

here's one of them: NzJ2NKp23WU

[princesschad]

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So did a lot of other people, what's your point?
there is no point. he feels , since he can't do it any other way, he needs to defend himself by taking jabs at what he thinks is the so called 'ap.net scene' expecting people to be irate that he doesn't like manchester orchestra or the new brand new cd. so rebellious!

it's not working though.

[fashionshowdown]

a review by nature should not be one-sided. it's a critical evaluation of a work, and since no work is perfect, a one-sided review defeats the purpose and makes people question the authenticity of the reviewer.

and seriously, there are many many many more bands out there that carry a far better message of brotherhood and love. don't make me laugh.

here's one of them: NzJ2NKp23WU
I never liked the Beatles... I think WCAR's message is better. Just deal with it, there's really no point to arguing wouldn't you agree?

[princesschad]

I never liked the Beatles... I think WCAR's message is better. Just deal with it, there's really no point to arguing wouldn't you agree?
there probably is no point. s'alright.

[fashionshowdown]

there probably is no point. s'alright.
Glad we could reach an agreement sir!

[The Summer Ends]

you're right, but holy lol @ your own username first
yeah i know it's bad, i really need to change it. any ideas?

[Matthew Tsai]

yeah i know it's bad, i really need to change it. any ideas?
Hmm... stop liking/supporting those bands

[anthonydarko]

there is no point. he feels , since he can't do it any other way, he needs to defend himself by taking jabs at what he thinks is the so called 'ap.net scene' expecting people to be irate that he doesn't like manchester orchestra or the new brand new cd. so rebellious!

it's not working though.
Couldn't of put it better myself.

[KennyDRomans]

Well in my honest opinion, I do think a 95% is a Bit too high, you usually get that for an album, that make's a huge mark, making you wanty to listen and listen until you cant anymore, Quite personally, the album would generate to me from first listen a 89 percent the first listen is memorable, this band doe's do thing's a bit different from your usual post hardcore and dont really go for constant techno,(I e:Attack Attack! who i wont bash because they're fun to listen too) their guitar work is Quite skilled, then most for the genre, so i give them that, i think the album's gimmicky, In a good Way, beleive me im a huge Fan of we came as roman's music, im very proud of the transition they made from their demo's, Now i wil lsay, the album start's get bland and you probably only wanna listen to the song's you like the most like me, Lyrics? eh, you cant really bash them for having what they have, because not many band's in this genre, write great defying Law's and in that case, the ten is fine, this is a solid review to me, and i think you should just rate it next time, but not on bias, i think that would be an honor to the band, the most memorable track on this album is definetly broken statue's

[Matt Brueckner]

i honestly don't know how you can give this a 95%. there not even close.

[Lightsout911X]

Well in my honest opinion, I do think a 95% is a Bit too high, you usually get that for an album, that make's a huge mark, making you wanty to listen and listen until you cant anymore, Quite personally, the album would generate to me from first listen a 89 percent the first listen is memorable, this band doe's do thing's a bit different from your usual post hardcore and dont really go for constant techno,(I e:Attack Attack! who i wont bash because they're fun to listen too) their guitar work is Quite skilled, then most for the genre, so i give them that, i think the album's gimmicky, In a good Way, beleive me im a huge Fan of we came as roman's music, im very proud of the transition they made from their demo's, Now i wil lsay, the album start's get bland and you probably only wanna listen to the song's you like the most like me, Lyrics? eh, you cant really bash them for having what they have, because not many band's in this genre, write great defying Law's and in that case, the ten is fine, this is a solid review to me, and i think you should just rate it next time, but not on bias, i think that would be an honor to the band, the most memorable track on this album is definetly broken statue's
Holy run-on sentence(s).

[KennyDRomans]

:-p sorry about that yesterday was my first day here. But yeah i think the album truly for me generates 89 percent, And longdistancedrunk that was uncalled for with the religion thing,

i mean i dig atl and Htl both nice poppy band's, But we came as roman's, have said they're not a christian band, i think you except music for what it is, they're not like a for today we're half of the time they're constantly preaching the hell out of a show, no offense it get's annoying, i feel like im in a church when i go see them live.:-(

[KennyDRomans]

btw i'm not dissing their religion, christian myself, but sometime's it's a bit too much, i might review this album when i get some free time one day, anyone feel like showing me how to do it? :-d

[kevinAIWW]

THIS times 100000000000000000 sorry for everyone who listens to every album only to critic it and find its faults rather than just enjoying it as music rather it be bad or good in "your opinion". i would still love this album if it were even more over produced get over it!
Thank you for pointing that out to everybody! ;)

[xjdizzle]

Love this album, but ap.nets staff refuse to review this, they love their acoustic-indie hipster music too much to pay attention to this.

Hipsters? Yea look at all the kids who listen to this generic scene metalcore crap.. must have V necks,skinny jeans ,same damn haircuts and Oh breakdowns mean talent?

[xjdizzle]

Maybe it all sounds the same to you, but all of your acoustin indie bands sound the same to us

It all sounds the same breakdowns ,auto tuned vocals,reverb reverb .That has been over done .
I dont really listen to acoustic-indie .i'm 24 and into hardcore, metal, for a while as well as pop punk,post,hardcore ,you name it.
But bands really need to stop using religion for propfit and making the same generic crap that we all have heeard before.
Just because you first started with The Devil wears Prada as your first bands you got into really makes your opinion a failure.

[KennyDRomans]

M-( We came as romans are not a christian band, Do i have to link you somebody up here a blog?, and the auto-tune is annoying,

[KennyDRomans]

im curious and no one bash me but what do people have against the V-necks? XD i have a few in my closet i like to go out in,

[KennyDRomans]

so im just wonderin

[Theher3tic]

I think WCAR fans are some of the most ignorant ppl i've ever encountered.

[KennyDRomans]

why bad expierience?

[Krazycev13]

definitely overrated. they're ok, but not worthy of a 93%.

[dtomczak]

anybody else get this strange feeling that they were listening to a track from tdwp's "with roots above and branches below" when listening to this cd? it's not necessarily a bad thing, i'm a fan of that album. i was just surprised that their riffs and synth combinations sound too similar to that of tdwp.

nevertheless, a beautiful album. lots of mastering, but that's just how this band is. i've been listening to this band ever since they hit the modern exchange in southgate, mi and got started. they are actually great performers, but if you're looking for exact replications of their cd to their live performance, that just won't happen. they've simply made you a awesome collection of songs with the best synth melodies you will ever hear.

i thought their dreams ep was pretty impressive, but this cd just blew me away. give 'em some cred. they're trying to be more than a "chug-chug riff breakdown chug riff breakdown" band. their sound is fresh and i think they're going to be a huge band in the future.

[nvx]

Oh, WCAR... I was at their very first show when they were still called "This Emergency." Let me tell you, they've improved immensely since then. I've grown to genuinely like this band, even without my personal biases. That said, I do think this album is more in the 70-80% range. They definitely have the potential to be in the 90-100% range, but I do agree that some of the songs are less spectacular. Also, I wish they kept their one-word title thing.

Personal favorites:
To Plant a Seed
Broken Statues
Dreams
Beliefs
Shapes (okay, this is from their EP >.>)

[SkiesSo Blue]

Thank you for pointing that out to everybody! ;)
no problem cant get enough of this album =]

[KennyDRomans]

Oh, WCAR... I was at their very first show when they were still called "This Emergency." Let me tell you, they've improved immensely since then. I've grown to genuinely like this band, even without my personal biases. That said, I do think this album is more in the 70-80% range. They definitely have the potential to be in the 90-100% range, but I do agree that some of the songs are less spectacular. Also, I wish they kept their one-word title thing.

Personal favorites:
To Plant a Seed
Broken Statues
Dreams
Beliefs
Shapes (okay, this is from their EP >.>)
couldn't have put it better myself *high fives* and @dtomczak they're album was produced by the same guy who did with roots and brances, joey sturgis, so if that help's then yeah haha, listen to asking alexandria and you'd also hear some tdwp breakdown's in their song's

[dtomczak]

@KennyDRomans

yup, i'm a fan of asking alexandria too. i know what you're talking. i can totally hear them rip off of tdwp breakdowns and i swear i heard an old blessthefall breakdown somewhere in one of their songs. but they're a really good band nonetheless.

[anthonydarko]

Bad record is still bad.

[KennyDRomans]

to one his own, i think we came as romans do thing's to seperate them from even more generic band's. personally im tired of them being dissed, they're not scene, breakdowns are great, auto-tuning clean vocal's need to stop, without my personal biases, this band isn't as generic or bad as people make it. not nothing new, not nothing spectacular, but something fresh to a now stale genre.

[whenwearedead]

you cant compare these guys with chiodos, or any other band that relates in no way shape or form to we came as romans. Sturgis produced the record, its quite evident from the way it sounds. However "genre" inspired it was, it mastered the genre. This was the best CD, lyrical and instrumental, i have heard this year from this genre, and im damn proud to be from michigan along with them

[absoluut]

high-mid scream doesn't mix well with mid-low scream imo

[AirTraffic]

I loved this album. Great review.

[adestria]

as much as this band talks about love, they are all kinda dick heads. met them multiple times and they were rude everytime

[ajl1992]

Idk why these guys get bad reviews they're doing something different and they sound awesome

[punked_26]

Excellent Album, love it dearly.

[asightsetonyou]

As being from the Michigan local scene, these boys have some BIG HEADS on their shoulders, arrogance drives their personalities. And what for? It would be different if they could sound like their album live and the clean vox would actually be represented equally like the album. It is sad music has come to this...

As for the album goes, I will say it sounds fantastic. (Thanks to an awesome engineer and editing tools). To be serious though... the album did come out great, it is different I will say in some ways, but generic at the same time.

[sleepingonstone]

As being from the Michigan local scene, these boys have some BIG HEADS on their shoulders, arrogance drives their personalities. And what for? It would be different if they could sound like their album live and the clean vox would actually be represented equally like the album. It is sad music has come to this...

As for the album goes, I will say it sounds fantastic. (Thanks to an awesome engineer and editing tools). To be serious though... the album did come out great, it is different I will say in some ways, but generic at the same time.
I actually happen to really like Kyle's live vocals. The album is great but the band really brings it live too.