Very Interesting Point.

[AttackAttack!]

John Von Neumann once said "In mathematics you don't understand things. You get used to them."
I wish I could have debated that point with him, because it seems to me that in mathematics we find the power to refuse fate, and understanding the way things are, we give ourselves the means to change them.

[perceptrons]

Math is about what is possible, not what really is. Math can prove some really fucked up shit (e.g. the Banach–Tarski paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach%E2%80%93Tarski_paradox), which, coincidentally, brought about his paradox), which is what I assume he was referring to. It's kind of hard to understand how all these crazy things can be proven, but you get used to that being the case.

[Neo Cassady]

Math is about what is possible, not what really is. Math can prove some really fucked up shit (e.g. the Banach–Tarski paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach%E2%80%93Tarski_paradox), which, coincidentally, brought about his paradox), which is what I assume he was referring to. It's kind of hard to understand how all these crazy things can be proven, but you get used to that being the case.

The idea of this kind of thing fascinates me, even though I don't have the mathematical background to understand a good bit of its inner workings. But math is so logical that I see what they're getting at.

[AttackAttack!]

Very interesting theory. There is one specific theory that this reminds me of, that I can't quiet name off the top of my head. God I wish I could. I'd love to hear your input, Perceptrons.

[AttackAttack!]

I found it!
Here you go, a friend sent this to me.
"Math is the real world, okay, It's everywhere, okay?
Hey, can I show you?
Look up a Gerbera flower, I could say any random flower, but I need a flower with noticeable pedals, so that's my example.
Anywho.
You see how the pedal spirals? The number of pedals in each row, is the sum of the preceeding two rows, The Fibonacci Sequence. Its found in the structure of crystals, and the spiral of galaxies. What's more, the ratio between each number in the sequence to the one before it is approximately 1.61803, what the greeks called the golden ratio. It shows up, the pyramids at Giza, And at the parthenon at athens.
Even the dimonsions of any card, it's based on the number you can find in a flower? Math is natures language."

[John JD Dorian]

Math is about what is possible, not what really is. Math can prove some really fucked up shit (e.g. the Banach–Tarski paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach%E2%80%93Tarski_paradox), which, coincidentally, brought about his paradox), which is what I assume he was referring to. It's kind of hard to understand how all these crazy things can be proven, but you get used to that being the case.

it's really only the axiom of choice that causes trouble.